--- Log for 04.12.102 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 11 days and 10 hours ago 00.02.32 # is .mod a format im not aware of? 00.03.20 # adi|work: huh? 00.03.32 # https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=439121&aid=648092&group_id=443 00.03.32 # 06 00.03.35 # .mod is a file extension 00.03.47 # right.. 00.03.54 # we got a nother putz who didn't read the FAQ 00.04.19 # hey, wait a sec 00.04.24 # what? 00.04.56 # MOD files are oldskool music files 00.05.02 # right.. and? 00.05.08 # originally from the Amiga/Atari scene 00.05.16 # are they mp* ? 00.05.20 # some samples and a sequencer 00.05.31 # ie: can we play them? 00.05.36 # more like midi files with accompanying sounds 00.05.42 # we can't play them 00.05.48 # like i said.. another putz ;) 00.05.52 # we need multichannel PCM playback 00.06.27 # hehe, and he thought that we could use winamp plugins.... 00.07.35 # yeah..but he's special 00.07.40 # sk00l 00.07.41 Join Triple-z [0] (~Mp3@212.116.168.57) 00.07.47 # hey 00.07.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.08.04 # careful with those heys 00.08.07 # their dangerous 00.08.17 # okay.. headedhome 00.08.25 # Triple-z: hi 00.10.11 # hah 00.10.30 # well i wasnt here for like 3 weeks, whats new? 00.11.04 # well, recording, ATA poweroff function and sleep timer 00.11.37 # for some reasone i had probs with the last builts 00.11.48 # ill try the newest 00.11.53 # hard drive probs? 00.11.59 # hangs? 00.12.50 # i think, i cant get inside the folder, or it takes for too long 00.13.20 # ok, disable disk poweroff in the system settings 00.13.25 # and see if it helps 00.13.44 # thx 00.14.05 # does bidi scroll is inside the last builds? 00.14.42 # i don't know 00.14.54 # i didn't know that was in at all 00.15.25 # you know what is it? 00.15.29 # it is 00.15.37 # yes, 00.15.49 # bidirectional scroll, like archos 00.15.59 # yeah 00.16.16 # i tried to implement that, but i ran into some problems 00.16.24 # on the recorder 00.16.32 # so i focused on the recording 00.16.48 # really? i hoped its a simple thing 00.17.03 # it's not as easy as one would think 00.17.39 # and i was in a hurry at the time 00.17.53 # oh ok 00.18.26 # so when you find the time.. plz 00.18.54 # ok, ok :-) 00.19.09 # thanks 00.19.34 # what you guys use: AMD or intel? 00.20.31 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-195-227.bct.bellsouth.net) 00.21.16 # i have AMD (athlon XP 1800) 00.21.49 # and intel in the laptop 00.22.03 # mobile P4 2GHz 00.22.10 # XP 2000 is better than P4 2.0ghz? i didnt really got that, cuse its lower in ghz.. 00.22.34 # Triple-z: GHz isn't everything 00.22.41 # i know 00.22.44 # but still 00.22.46 # it's like saying that RPM is all in a car 00.22.46 # NAH ! 00.22.52 # ghz is everything 00.23.02 # size does matter ! 00.23.04 # rpm is everything! 00.23.08 # hehe 00.23.26 # whats more important ? technics or length ? 00.23.34 # thickness 00.23.39 # hehe 00.23.41 # yeah 00.23.44 # "girth" is better LinusN 00.24.44 # ? 00.25.12 # "girth" is a better word to use there than "thickness". More mahnly. :) 00.25.23 # oh 00.25.54 # tell me what you think about this parts: AMD Athlon XP 2000+ Tray CPU, Thermaltake Volcano 7 Plus CPU Cooler for AMD, Gigabyte GA-7VAX VIA KT400 Motherboard (AGPx8, 5.1 Sound, ATA133, LAN, USB 2.0), DDR-RAM 256MB 3200 Samsung Original Memory, Gigabyte RADEON 9000 Pro 64MB DDR Bulk VideoCard, TASK 5200B Front USB Case 00.26.18 # hows that? 00.26.20 # wow, a sleep timer done? didn't even know it was being worked on 00.27.04 # Triple-z: looks ok 00.27.15 # what will you do with that system? 00.27.27 # email, games, the usual. :) 00.27.47 # kargatron: i wouldn't recommend it for video editing 00.27.54 # well video, internet, some gfx, games 00.28.15 # not really video editing 00.28.44 # good, VIA chipsets are not kind to video editing cards, PCI-bandwidth-wise 00.29.07 # something about badly or not implemented bus parking 00.29.09 # Gigabyte RADEON 9000 Pro 64MB DDR is good? 00.29.40 # * Triple-z anit got money for all the expencive stuff 00.30.39 # i can't tell if gigabyte does better video cards than other companies 00.30.58 # but as long as it is radeon9x00 it sounds ok to me 00.31.15 # its better then gettin a gf4 440mx 64ddr i think 00.31.24 # i'm not all up to date with the video card business 00.31.55 # i still have a Matrox G400 00.32.31 # ever heard on winbond memory? 00.33.05 # http://tw.giga-byte.com/products/7vax.htm thats the mobo 00.34.39 # winbond? no. 00.34.43 # never heard of it 00.34.57 # guess its shitty 00.35.10 # i doubt it 00.35.43 # i dont think you can find really shitty memory nowadays 00.35.55 # as long as you stay within specs 00.36.20 # http://www.winbond.com.tw i think 00.42.06 Quit kargatron ("Suckers!") 00.44.18 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 00.49.03 Quit TotMacher (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.58.50 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 01.07.42 Quit Triple-z (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.26.16 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 02.07.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.35.33 Part LinusN 03.33.55 Quit datazone (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.41.32 Join guest [0] (~thecopes@rdu57-0-075.nc.rr.com) 03.41.46 # hey 03.42.08 # anyone here, knows how to put on a patch? 03.42.17 # I can't get a patch on 03.43.54 # well, could anyone, put the "more games for rockbox" patch on the recorder 1.4 release, and e-mail it to me, compiled and made at scope@nc.rr.com 03.44.02 # thanks 03.46.02 Quit guest () 03.55.07 Join datazone [0] (~datazone@207.136.36.203) 04.07.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.34.25 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 04.36.01 # god damnit... 04.36.10 # EVERYTIME guest comes in.. im not here... 04.36.15 # i want to toss that bastard... 05.57.44 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.08.01 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 06.18.02 Quit adi|work (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.18.02 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 06.18.02 Quit laotan (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.18.02 Quit Schnueff (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.18.02 Quit mecraw1212 (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.18.02 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 06.18.02 NJoin mecraw1212 [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 06.21.15 Join Schnueff_ [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 06.21.15 NJoin adi|work [0] (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 06.21.15 NJoin laotan [0] (~jesse@markham.openflows.org) 06.21.15 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 06.21.27 Quit Schnueff (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.08.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.10.35 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 08.41.13 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.55.03 # Hey ho! 08.55.11 # morn 08.55.25 # I got some feedback on the bleeding edge from last evening 08.55.31 # from 4pm or such 08.55.38 # First of all, a scroll issue 08.55.45 # (which has been there for quite a whild) 08.56.13 # after ffw:ing in a stream, one of my scrolling lines starts to act funky 08.56.31 # I also had a single hang when pressing 'next' while playing a playlist 08.56.54 # ouch 09.04.18 # The LED was lit and nothing happened 09.04.35 # But that scroll issue might have something to do with multiple lines of scrolling 09.14.32 # Bagder: Did you ever do win32 API coding? :) 09.14.48 # I did. Long time ago though. 09.15.41 # Do you know how to intercept WM_SIZE messages (mainly to limit the window heights) :) ? 09.15.54 # no clue 09.23.08 # I bet you know how to do it with all those widget sets like GTK, athena, wxwindows etc. ;) 09.23.24 # I don't do much GUI programming 09.23.37 # so the answer is no, I'm quite clueless on all of them 09.24.14 # GUI is your friend! :) 09.24.36 # I know the Rockbox GUI API! ;-) 09.24.48 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.24.54 # It's a LCD framebuffer for crying out loud! :) 09.25.02 # it is? ;-P 09.25.04 # Yes 09.25.06 # I invented it 09.25.08 # :-) 09.25.10 # haha 09.25.27 # * dwihno - mister inventer guy 09.25.44 # Hi Z 09.26.10 # Zagor_: I read they have problems with 2.4.20 09.26.20 # ext3-related 09.26.40 # just fyi, could be worth not upgrading 09.27.39 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.27.47 # ok 09.28.54 # Archos wants to put Rockbox on their support CDROM for the Studio series. 09.29.24 # hah 09.29.25 # coolness 09.29.28 # Show me the mail! :D 09.29.31 # Misa wanna read! 09.29.49 # Zagor: Make a deal with them - They can do so, if they give you the MAS specs! 09.29.55 # haha 09.30.07 # in fact, they can do that already without asking 09.30.09 # I'm not so sure they have them... 09.30.11 # I know 09.30.12 # Bagder: exactly 09.30.21 # Bagder: sometimes, you have to dra en rövare :) 09.30.25 # but asking is nice and polite 09.30.28 # Yes 09.30.29 # It is 09.30.47 # Zagor: Show me the mail!!! :) 09.30.50 # I wanna see 09.32.58 # Zagor: they weren't interested in Rockbox for the recorder? 09.33.11 # Prolly due to the missing recording feature and disk writing 09.34.15 # exactly. they might be interested once we support recording 09.34.49 # i won't publish the mail 09.34.55 # Zagor - the code crusader! :D 09.35.03 # bohoo 09.36.11 Nick Schnueff_ is now known as Schnueff (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 09.36.49 # Zagor: I had a nice crash last night when pressing 'next'. The LCD lit and then it locked. 09.36.51 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.37.00 # hey L 09.37.08 # Zagor: do you have a player nearby? 09.37.10 # hey Bagder 09.37.14 # Try enabling multiple scrolling lines and ffw in a stream and you'll see pretty funky stuff too :) 09.37.18 # (recorder) 09.39.21 # LinusN: no 09.39.27 # sh*t 09.39.44 # ? 09.40.09 # the power_off() function doesn't work on the two players i have here at home 09.40.24 # ow 09.41.29 # :/ 09.49.13 # What's the address to the bug tracker? 09.49.33 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=44306&atid=439118 09.49.38 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/bugs.shtml 09.50.40 # I'll add bugs ;D 09.50.49 # But they do not apply to the bleeding edge, huh? 09.50.56 # yes they do 09.51.03 # nowadays 09.51.17 # they do? :D Yay! 09.51.20 # just mention the exact version as told by meny->version 09.51.38 # I need to login to sourceforge to add a report? 09.52.10 # "If you have a Sourceforge account, log in before you file the report." 09.52.16 # "If you don't have a SF account, sign the report with your email." 09.53.24 # Zagor: do you use Bagders new num2max5() function for the disk info? 09.53.33 # heh 09.53.34 # mkay 09.54.46 # Anyone with a recorder who can verify my bug? 09.55.03 # LinusN: no, forgot about that one 09.55.26 # also, it doesn't handle >4G very well :-) 09.55.51 # I was thinking. What happens if you are recording and run out of disk space while recording? 09.56.42 # dwihno: it will probably crash :-) 09.57.09 # LinusN: Hey, you successfully implemented windows emulation with Rockbox - congrats ;D 09.57.14 # No one has a recorder nearby? 09.57.42 # write() simply fails when the disk is full 09.57.52 # dwihno: I do 09.58.39 # dwihno: i have too 09.58.42 # Zagor: Test if the scrolling lines start to twitch after ffw:ing in a stream 09.58.57 # "twitch"? 09.59.19 # yes 09.59.32 # Blahblah blah a blabla blah bleh bluh 09.59.35 # blah blah a blabla blah bleh bluh 09.59.38 DBUG Sent KICK dwihno to server 09.59.38 # ahblah blah a blabla blah bleh bluh 09.59.38 Kick (#rockbox dwihno :Stop repeating yourself) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se 09.59.44 # heh 09.59.46 Join dwihno [0] (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 09.59.49 # It will twitch 09.59.52 # You will see what I mean 10.01.44 # * dwihno is awaiting some kind of reply ... :) 10.04.19 # i can't see any twitching 10.05.03 # you can't? 10.05.08 # I'll send you my WPS 10.05.09 # w8 10.08.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.09.28 # gmorning! 10.09.43 # hey Zagor, the harddrive poweroff thingy doesn't work :) 10.09.51 # :-( 10.10.04 # but it doesn't crash 10.10.08 # what happens is a bit odd 10.10.54 # first it plays just fine - then after the first time it has to spin up the hd all by itself, it spins it up and the sound stops playing altogether - and then the sound is never resumed - the mp3 looks like it's still playing 10.11.31 # Zagor: fetch! :) 10.11.40 # dwihno: I can't dcc. i'm in a tunnel. 10.11.54 # Hadaka: check the debug->mpeg screen 10.12.02 # dwihno: mail it instead 10.12.24 # ookay, booting this thing up 10.12.24 # Hadaka: forget that 10.12.38 # it won't help anyway 10.12.56 # nah, I want to see what's up 10.13.31 # hmmh weird 10.14.04 # first the buffered amount goes lower than the lower water mark or whatever it is - it starts spinning up the HD 10.14.30 # then it manages to read only a tiny bit, just enough to put it over the low water mark 10.14.51 # aha 10.14.52 # and then the music stops 10.14.57 # interesting 10.14.57 # and then it reads the buffer in full 10.15.19 # what says the Lowest value? 10.15.29 # FFFC 10.15.36 # oh 10.15.58 # try to increase the low water mark, just to test 10.16.06 # what do I press? 10.16.23 # mpeg.h 10.16.27 # oh 10.16.29 # ok 10.16.30 # hehe 10.16.58 # #define MPEG_LOW_WATER 0x40000 10.16.58 # #define MPEG_LOW_WATER_CHUNKSIZE 0x40000 10.17.05 # set it to 0x60000 10.17.20 # both or just the low water? 10.17.57 # eg. do I adjust the low water chunksize as well? 10.18.26 # you can try that too 10.18.53 # ok first I don't 10.19.39 # Zagor: *boing* - you got mail! 10.20.11 # ok now the damn fat wait again 10.20.22 # hehe 10.21.30 # now let's see 10.22.26 # uhum, wonder if I did something worng, it didn't start the spin up earler 10.23.00 # I have a fix upcoming for "the damn fat wait" btw 10.23.06 # maybe "make clean"? 10.23.29 # LinusN: don't tell me I would have to do that? I thought you had proper dependencies handling? 10.23.31 # Zagor: got mail? 10.23.43 # dwihno: haven't checked yet. still writing some other mail. 10.23.52 # Hadaka: it sometimes fails, and i don't know why 10.24.02 # Zagor: mkay 10.24.05 # oh I'll make clean to be sure then 10.24.07 # Hadaka: and how do you see that it doesn't spin up earlier? 10.24.28 # well I'm in the mpeg thread and the limit when it started doing stuff was still 0x40000 10.24.47 # ok 10.24.57 # strange 10.25.05 # what does the unswapped counter mean? 10.25.23 # oh! swapping of the bytes after reading? 10.25.24 # it tells how much data that is left to bitswap 10.25.30 # ah yes 10.25.35 # not byteswap 10.25.37 # bitswap 10.25.42 # yeah, meant bitswap :) 10.25.52 # forgot even that that had to be done 10.26.37 # it was as if... it managed to read new stuff but not bitswap it before it was needed - and then stopped playing for some reason 10.27.04 # Hadaka: that is possible 10.27.08 # gods I feel stupid! the reason why the low water mark was not updated 10.27.21 # was that I didn't reboot this box at all since your usb mode is so nice :) 10.27.27 # haha! 10.27.46 # happened to me quite a few times too 10.28.17 # now let's see 10.28.52 # ha! works now 10.29.02 # lowest 3e2e6 10.29.25 # now let's see where the unplayed jumps after the first hiccup 10.29.28 # Hadaka: try this: keep the water mark at 40000 and set chunk size to 0x10000 10.30.01 # (chunk size is the amount it tries to read when below the mark) 10.30.43 # the unplayed jumps to 87000 or so when it first starts reading - then falls to 77000 and sometime 67000 before it manages to read more and fill the buffer 10.30.49 # Hadaka: do you have a "lively" WPS, with lots of scrolling? 10.31.02 # Hadaka: bitrate? 10.31.05 # I'm always in the mpeg thread these times 10.31.06 # 256 10.32.28 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/features.html is long now 10.33.18 # i think "intuitive user interface" is a bit vague 10.33.24 # hehe, I agree 10.33.59 # also I'd like "fast playlist loading" to be something like "playlist load speed" instead, with a "songs / sec" value (about 3200 on my Recorder) 10.34.21 # ok now we'll see again 10.34.36 # Zagor: then we need someone to load a playlist on the archos fw too 10.34.54 # and "low volume support" sounds silly, better with "ability to set really low volume" 10.35.15 # "high resolution volume setting" 10.35.20 # ah good 10.35.22 # feel free to adjust 10.35.24 # "high resolution volume control" even 10.35.30 # we prefer to complain :-) 10.35.32 # Bagder: the volume? :-) 10.36.12 # Zagor: 3200? How come? My recorder loads ~2000 per sec 10.36.31 # really? 10.36.39 # the user interface might be intuitive - but it sure isn't too consistent 10.37.00 # Zagor: I'll double-check 10.37.36 # loading my 7165-file list, the display shows 1, 3167, 6009, 7165(end) 10.37.50 # so I guess it's more like 3000/sec than 3200/sec 10.38.11 # ok so 60000 with 10000 chunksize worked fine 10.38.20 # now seeing 40000 with 10000 chunksize 10.38.33 # My 4019 playlist show1 2390 4019 10.38.46 # dwihno: what disk do you have? 10.38.55 # Zagor: I'll check the neato new feature stuff ;) 10.38.59 # hehe 10.39.09 # 3e2d8 is the value where it starts spinning up the hd 10.39.12 # IC25N020ATCS04-0 10.39.15 # Me thinks 10.39.22 # !? 10.39.25 # 1e2d8 is the lowest value it hits 10.39.31 # dwihno: that's what it says? 10.39.32 # then.. 10.39.38 # Zagor: think so 10.39.57 # dwihno: evil model name :) 10.39.59 # unplayed jumps to 40000 and unswapped is 38000 and the music skips for a moment 10.40.12 # and then the whole buffer is filled 10.40.14 # dwihno: that's an IBM travelstar 40 GN 10.40.29 # (three cheers for google) 10.40.33 # it is? 10.40.34 # hm 10.40.36 # * Bagder cheers one 10.40.36 # so changing the chunksize to 10000 means that now it just skips every time, but no longer stops playing altogether 10.40.52 # Hadaka: ok, good, then 60000 is the solution 10.41.04 # Zagor: is that good or bad? 10.41.09 # * dwihno has NOT modded his archos 10.41.13 # Hadaka: try 60000/60000 10.41.14 # hm, I have FUJITSU MHN2200AT as a drive here 10.41.16 # dwihno: neither 10.41.27 # LinusN: tried - and it worked 10.41.32 # Hadaka: we will add a dynamic watermark later on 10.41.51 # Zagor: So it's my disk that's slow? :( 10.42.02 # Linus promised me to help me swap my disk ;) 10.42.05 # of course IBM can't just write "IBM TRAVELSTAR 40GN" as model. nooooo, not ibm... 10.42.12 # :-) 10.42.19 # Zagor: can you add a poweron/spinup timing function in ata.c? 10.42.28 # Zagor: IBM is your friend! :) 10.42.29 # dwihno: might be a slow disk, or maybe you simply have much longer paths than I do 10.42.30 # ok so what this means is that the disk is slower to spin up from poweroff - I wonder if draws more power as well? 10.42.36 # LinusN: ok 10.42.40 # now it stopped entirely again! 10.42.42 # Hadaka: i don't think so 10.42.53 # Zagor: erhm, my paths are not really that long. 10.43.06 # Hadaka: with 60000/10000? 10.43.14 # nah, with this 40000/10000 10.43.18 # dwihno: i think 2000 is pretty normal. probably my Tosh is fast 10.43.18 # ok 10.43.37 # Zagor: Time to clock a buffer fill 10.43.43 # :-) 10.44.13 # Zagor: my playlist loading is about 3800/sec 10.44.16 # :O 10.44.21 # so there is a bug in the playing that some buffer exhaustion thing can make the playing stop 10.44.28 # You have luxorious drives ppl! 10.44.32 # Hadaka: yes 10.45.30 # so, what should the chunksize be? 10000, 40000 or 60000, if my low water mark is 60000? 10.45.49 # i think same as the watermark 10.45.54 # nods 10.46.07 # LinusN: Did you get your drive using Zagor's supplier? 10.46.23 # yes, we have the same 10.46.53 # same drive, actually 10.46.57 # Can't you get me one? The stores in sweden only carry IBM's drives 10.46.59 # :-) 10.48.22 # ok, I was mean and put 50000 to both, let's see :) 10.48.49 # works! 10.49.00 # Hadaka: try 320kbit/s 10.49.13 # don't think I have such beasts on my drive even 10.49.54 # oh yes - once, just one, I've had a skip on these 256kbit MP3s without the harddrive poweroff thingy at all 10.49.56 # hehe, i call 256kbit files beasts :-) 10.50.12 # well me too, lame --r3mix forever 10.50.33 # lame -b192 -q0 forever ;D 10.50.46 # forever = runtime? :) 10.50.51 # :-) 10.52.26 # hey, where are the runtime values on this rockbox counted? from when you boot it up? 10.52.55 # Schnueff: haha, ya 10.53.06 # Hadaka: it's reset when you plug in the charger 10.53.51 # gods, I seem to be wanting dynamic watermark more and more by the moment :) 10.55.37 # maybe one could adjust the watermark with the average bitrate as a first try 10.55.48 # Schnueff: that, and the disk spinup time 10.58.47 # I want resume to survive over usb-mode! ;) 10.59.14 # Hadaka: it does. just rolo the firmware again, and it'll ask for resume 10.59.34 # ah! it did! 10.59.45 # except that I don't use ask, I use 'yes' :) 10.59.52 # ah 11.00.25 # ...which reminds me that I should put in the keylock saving stuff 11.01.20 # ...which reminds me that we must make the remote control work when keys are locked 11.02.17 # but now, off to work (and now I won't forget the usb cable) 11.07.42 Join Mine78 [0] (Pozzolo@host22-82.pool80116.interbusiness.it) 11.07.59 # hi guys please is there someone who can help me with a serious problem with rockbox ? 11.08.07 # Zagor or whoever 11.08.08 # please 11.08.10 # no :-) 11.08.14 # hangs? 11.08.15 # hi linusn 11.08.17 # no 11.08.26 # when I press the on button 11.08.30 # it shut off 11.08.38 # even when I connect to the usb 11.08.41 # sounds like battery problems 11.08.43 # yay 11.08.48 # if I keep it pressed desn't work 11.09.06 # if i keep pressed and then connect the DC adaptor it makes crr crr sounds 11.09.10 # check your battery connection 11.09.11 # anyone feels for some torture? load archos firmware and estimate playlist load speed in songs/sec! 11.09.17 # and the HD red light doesn't turn on 11.09.21 # also try to replacve the batteries 11.09.32 # you may have a damaged cell 11.09.37 # but even if I connect the adaptor ? 11.09.44 # what's cell ? 11.09.51 # yes, the batteries are needed even with the dc adapter 11.09.53 # dwihno? ;-) 11.09.56 # cell == battery 11.10.01 # I tell the story 11.10.12 # I left the battery charging for almost 20 hours 11.10.13 # oh, "the story" 11.10.20 # when I return home (eheheh yes the sotry) 11.10.24 # the archos was a bit hot 11.10.27 # ...and then i left iot in the dishwasher 11.10.31 # and it started to do that roblem 11.10.38 # no 11.10.43 # i keep it like a jewl ! 11.10.48 # jewel 11.10.50 # Mine78: sounds like you have damaged a battery, yes 11.10.56 # feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww 11.11.06 # I supposed I amaged the archos 11.11.13 # i don't think so 11.11.16 # what are the specifics pof the batteries ? 11.11.21 # try to replace the batteries 11.11.35 # 1.2V NiMh AA size 11.11.42 # 1500mAh or more 11.11.52 # I can bought them everywhere, right ? 11.11.57 # almost 11.12.17 # not in the grocery store 11.12.27 # ok, I'll measure it myself 11.12.42 # more mah = last more ? 11.12.46 # yes 11.13.10 # maybe I overused them 11.13.18 # ok thabk you SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH ! 11.13.29 # I go to buy them 11.13.32 Quit Mine78 ("Shokowahhhhh dwahhhnowan!!") 11.14.18 # Bagder: what? 11.14.23 # never mind 11.14.55 # I've created a 500-song playlist I'll now load with the archos fm 11.14.57 # Haha 11.15.01 # You thought that was me? :) 11.15.07 # I would pull off a greater scam :) 11.16.19 # Bagder: 500 songs? It will take 10 minutes to load it! 11.16.57 # take a guess how many songs/sec ? ;-) 11.17.02 # 10? 11.17.04 # 10? 11.17.06 # 20 11.17.09 # haha 11.17.11 # hahahaaaaaaaaa 11.17.20 # 100x speed difference. is that much? ;) 11.19.05 # Nah 11.19.11 # Only a minor difference 11.19.31 # can't even remember when I last ran the archos fm 11.23.02 # my 500 song list took 27 secs to load 11.23.09 # is that pain or what 11.24.16 # Bagder: won't the RTC area get fux0red now when you use the archos firmware? 11.25.06 # yes, but not the config stored on fisk 11.25.07 # no 11.25.15 # no? 11.25.17 # no == it is resotred from disk 11.25.17 # no? 11.25.24 # ah, right 11.25.30 # It will get fux0red and then repaired :) 11.25.33 # yes 11.28.36 # :-) 11.38.43 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@pyvasene.net1.nerim.net) 11.40.23 # hmh 11.40.31 # stopped playing three times on the way to work 11.41.40 # so 60000/60000 is not good either 11.41.48 # :-( 11.42.09 # but actually 11.42.25 # explain me the low water chunksize again? 11.42.32 # seems like the ATA poweroff shouldn't be the default option... 11.42.54 # not before atleast somewhat dynamic low water mark 11.43.07 # when the low watermark has been reached, it will read CHUNKSIZE large blocks from disk 11.43.16 # until the watermark is reached 11.43.31 # then it will read in as large chunks as the buffer allows 11.43.53 # ok so it is as I expect 11.44.20 # I'm pretty convinced that by lowering the chunksize but keeping the buffer at 60000 I can get good results 11.44.52 # Hadaka: it should probably correlate to the bitswap chunk size 11.45.07 # the problem is that when I increase the chunksize, it will take longer to read that chunk, which means I should increase the low water mark again - and so on 11.46.28 # reading from the hard drive is fast 11.49.37 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084ABA0.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.49.46 Quit TotMacher (Client Quit) 11.49.52 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084ABA0.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.57.26 Quit TotMacher () 12.05.07 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip115.rsidus.riege.de) 12.05.54 # hmm 12.05.57 Quit pyvasene (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.06.06 # swap chunksize is 0x2000 12.08.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.10.35 # reading in 0x2000 chunks from the harddrive will take forever 12.11.18 # 0x20000 is more like it 12.12.00 # Zagor: not for the bitswap 12.12.24 # no, for the drive 12.13.01 # Zagor: the bitswap takes place once every loop in mpeg_thread 12.13.19 # so we want to do read, swap, read, swap, read, swap in equal amounts 12.13.38 # swapping while reading? 12.13.41 # Sounds not-so-optimal 12.13.55 # dwihno: only when below the watermark 12.14.04 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/features.html now with playlist load speed 12.14.10 # Bagder: do you feel like moving the list from majordomo to mailman? manual bounce removal is driving me nuts. 12.14.12 # Linus: ah, then I'm with you :D 12.14.37 # Zagor: we might consider moving the list over to SF... 12.14.37 # those are nice numbers :-) 12.14.50 # btw, some of my mp3's are sounding fishy 12.14.55 # I'll check if they are brokej 12.14.56 # broken 12.15.02 # Bagder: yah we could 12.15.13 # Zagor: we could still offer the same mail address 12.15.20 # just redirect it over 12.15.26 # yup 12.18.30 # My kebab song sounds glitchy! :( 12.18.38 # Which sounds good on wintendo 12.19.15 # hm, I wonder if I should go for 60000/40000 or 60000/20000 12.19.35 # LinusN: You want a file for analysis? :) 12.20.36 # dwihno: dropouts? 12.21.03 # erhm, dropouts? 12.21.15 # short periods of silence 12.21.18 # yap 12.21.31 # that means that some frames have bad checksums 12.21.55 # they do? 12.21.59 # or it means that is was encoded with an encoder that doesn't generate checksums, but the checksum bit is set 12.22.07 # hm 12.22.13 # is there some kind of analysis tool to check that? 12.22.16 # i have heard of this problem before 12.22.21 # dwihno: i think so 12.22.58 # dwihno: winamp doesn't care about the checksum, but the MAS does 12.23.57 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 12.24.25 # hmm 12.29.07 # Men vafanken, hittar inga juutils för ändamålet *morr* 12.33.18 # dwihno: VBRfix might do the job 12.34.10 # our font lacks the ¼ ½ ¾ characters 12.34.18 # bummer 12.34.46 # what do you need those for? 12.34.58 # my new keyboard code :-) 12.35.15 # LinusN: I don't think it's vbr 12.35.21 # LinusN: Or perhaps that does not really matter 12.35.45 # dwihno: it shouldn't matter in this case 12.37.10 # Hmm 12.37.14 # It crashed after 49% :) 12.38.21 # ok, something is bad in your file 12.38.26 # hehe 12.38.29 # naaah :) 12.38.33 # My kebab-låt! :( 12.39.07 # Får jag bjuuuda på en kebab, med starka såsen på 12.45.50 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|lunch (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.50.01 Join tot|away [0] (tot@ip115.rsidus.riege.de) 12.51.40 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@pyvasene.net1.nerim.net) 13.07.52 Quit TotMacher () 13.07.52 Quit tot|away () 13.16.29 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-344.ath.forthnet.gr) 13.29.58 # * dwihno ate sausage salad for lunch 13.30.02 # Just thought you should know 13.37.54 Nick Zagor|lunch is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 13.44.05 Nick seb-sleep is now known as seb-school (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 13.46.42 # hmh, I wonder what makes the powerup process take so much longer when the drive is totally powered off 13.47.25 # it doesn't take much longer for me. or at least I haven't noticed it 13.47.43 # for me it is very noticeable 13.48.00 # I wonder if it draws more power during that as well 13.48.27 # yeah, that would be interesting to know 13.48.50 # anyway, if I manage to tune the low water marks and stuff so that these 256kbit mp3's play well, I'm going to leave this unit to play 192kbit mp3's for the night again and see what the playtime is after that 13.49.08 # so I can tell you whether it went up or down from the change 13.49.45 # can I measure the power expenditure without opening the archos up? 13.50.36 # My disk power up is fast 13.51.40 # Scroll speed should be configurable and not only the spacing 13.51.53 # FUJITSU MHN2200AT <- my drive, not replaced 13.52.10 # dwihno: that will consume all cpu 13.52.14 # dwihno: heh, I was bothered by the same thing :) 13.53.37 # I'd like to lower the scroll frequency 13.53.55 # Zagor: then it should be documented 13.54.33 # what would? 13.54.41 # (consume all cpu, that is) 13.54.58 # increasing the scroll update frequency 13.55.07 # If you make it configurable, then you can choose 13.55.22 # Some people like to waste CPU 13.55.29 # ah, well I'm only considered in decreasing it :) 13.55.33 # and Hadaka like to lower the frequency and have a higher pixel setting 13.55.39 # dwihno: wasting cpu means stopping playback 13.55.41 # I don't like when they waste my time with bug reports as a consequense... 13.56.01 # LinusN: brask? 13.56.06 # I keep the contrast pretty low on my recorder - and with the refresh frequency it has right now, the text is almost unreadable 13.56.44 # Linus: So the speed is as fast as it gets now without stopping the decoding? 13.56.56 # Hadaka: ah, ok. i've only heard requests for more smooth scroll. sorry for assuming you wanted that :) 13.58.23 # heh, apparently people are different :) 13.58.31 # dwihno: the speed is as fast as it gets without "compromising the user experience" :-) 13.58.42 # LinusN: Not good enough :) Gimme more ;-D 13.59.26 # if we increase the lcd update frequency we might get audio dropouts 14.00.41 # I already have that on the kebabsång :( 14.00.42 # *sob* 14.00.53 # My precious! 14.01.20 # LinusN: how about configurability with a max and minimum value? 14.01.21 # dwihno, are you Gollum? :-) 14.01.24 # That way, Hadaka will be happy 14.01.33 # LinusN: I am Samwise :) 14.01.40 # Spamwise 14.01.41 # LinusN: I am galen ;D 14.01.45 # Zagor: hehu 14.02.03 # hell, I'm happy with just modifying some constant somewhere ;) 14.02.29 # dwihno: sure, but i can't promise that we can get any faster than today 14.02.43 # LinusN: nah, but I'm willing to experiment to find a max value 14.02.58 # with 6 scrolls and a peak meter? 14.03.00 # LinusN: what is the state of recording right now? 14.03.08 # The best thing about rockbox is, you can configure everything 14.03.09 # Zagor: it should work 14.03.18 # but is bretty bare bones 14.03.19 # LinusN: so we want more testers? 14.03.30 # LinusN: I disregard the peak meter :) 14.03.48 # Zagor: yes, but i haven't done anything on it for over a week 14.03.52 # LinusN: I never use it, and I rather use CPU cycles to scroll smoother :-) 14.04.09 # ok, now testing 60000/40000 14.04.54 # is the mp3 playing with a gap btw? 14.05.21 # LinusN: if the setting is high, then the speed setting could say "WARNING! this setting is too high for peak meter" 14.05.33 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EA9615.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.05.53 # you are not gnome2, just make it configurable and let the user shoot himself in the foot :) 14.05.54 # Hadaka: with a gap? 14.06.18 # LinusN: as in, is there a gap between two mp3's or are they played seamlessly together? 14.07.04 # gap being silence 14.08.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.09.06 # seamlessly 14.10.13 # goodie 14.10.53 # hmh now this is looking good - testing while walking around soon 14.11.30 # :-) 14.11.43 # hm 14.11.51 # Is it really gapless? 14.11.57 # I'm gonna test with my evilness rip 14.13.45 # I hear a click 14.14.12 # dwihno: is it seamless with other mp3 players, winamp etc 14.14.24 # LinusN: it sure is 14.14.41 # which version of rockbox? 14.14.46 # bleeding edge 14.15.05 # can you publish 2 files for me? 14.15.07 # the click is for a split second only 14.15.15 # [track1|click|track2] 14.15.17 # no delays 14.15.31 # please wait 14.15.44 # kråkzoo (techno remix) ;) 14.20.20 # Zagor: any ideas about the WPS twitching? 14.20.33 # yeah, stop taking drugs 14.20.49 # dwihno: I haven't had time to test yet 14.21.16 # kargatron: hehu, en eskimu :) 14.21.27 # Zagor: ah, sorry for being impatient :) 14.39.33 # :) 14.42.19 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 14.42.26 # rc5-72 is alive 14.46.16 # oh no 14.46.50 # so what are going to prove this time? 14.47.02 # that stupid people will never get smarter? 14.47.40 # that a bazillion computers can crack a crypto given enough years ;-) 14.47.50 # oh, this will take 7 years, i will run my silly cow until my very death 14.48.03 # of course 14.48.53 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip115.rsidus.riege.de) 14.51.13 # " There have been 558 participants 14.51.13 # since the beginning of this project." 14.59.37 Join xam [0] (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 15.28.24 # hey zagor 15.28.44 # i received an email from a guy who has the same SLEEP problem as I have 15.29.11 # hehe 15.29.12 # we should probably have an option: STANDBY, SLEEP, POWEROFF 15.29.13 # ok. tell him to try the latest daily 15.29.22 # with sleep problems u should visit the doctor :) 15.29.40 # LinusN: why would anyone want SLEEP instead of POWEROFF ? 15.29.55 # maybe because the disk takes forever to spin up? 15.30.01 # does it? 15.30.05 # because of other problems maybe 15.30.09 # ask Hadaka 15.30.39 # nah, he just needs dynamic limits 15.30.50 # "just" 15.31.03 # we should try to solve the problems first, imho 15.31.12 # no one would know what to pick from SLEEP and STANDBY anyway 15.31.12 # still, is the poweroff feature worth it if we need to almost double the watermark level? 15.31.22 # yes 15.31.40 # Zagor: we still don't know if Players have the same problem 15.31.48 # they can't do poweroff 15.31.55 # as far as i have seen... 15.31.56 # we should make measurements, of course 15.32.25 # exactly. we don't know. so how would a standby option help them? 15.33.45 # * Bagder runs off 15.33.49 # it would also seem that with poweroff, the unit is much more sensitive to skipping when walking with it 15.34.00 # Hadaka: really? 15.34.03 # ofcourse that might be just because it has less time to load because of the watermark change 15.34.22 # but still yes - now it's working just fine when I'm sitting still 15.34.31 # but if I go walking, no bonus 15.35.06 # can I measure the power expenditure without taking the unit apart again btw? 15.35.42 # yes. measure between two batteries 15.36.07 # two batteries? not from end to end on the batteries? 15.36.34 # or doesn't it matter? 15.37.08 # no, instert an ampere meter in the power circuit, i.e. between the + pole on one battery and the - pole on the next 15.37.30 # then the power will flow through the meter, and you will see how much 15.37.31 # mm, yes 15.37.45 # I might be able to check that tonight 15.38.01 # and in any case, I will do the overnight timing to see if the battery life goes up or down from 12h 15.46.05 # good 15.48.21 # and now I'm off to home 15.48.28 # bye 15.54.17 Join botman [0] (~thecopes@rdu57-0-075.nc.rr.com) 15.54.30 Part botman 15.54.39 Join botman [0] (~thecopes@rdu57-0-075.nc.rr.com) 15.55.09 # hey, when is Version 2.0 comming out? 15.55.17 # when it's ready 15.55.37 # I mean, how far are you into it? 15.55.40 Quit Schnueff ("leaving") 15.56.09 # pretty far. we need more testing of the recording feature 15.56.10 Join Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 15.56.26 # or, can you tell me what to expect other than recording? 15.56.37 # is recording the only criterion for "2.0"? 15.56.41 # sleep timer, better battery life... 15.57.16 # I put a bleeding edge from last night on my R15, the sleep timer works well 15.57.38 # great, but try with the charger attached :-) 15.57.54 # Is that in the BE for today? 15.58.25 # yes, it is fixed in the latest BE 15.59.19 # i definitely think the lead feature for v2.0 should be ID3 Year! :) 15.59.30 # how do you stop recording? 15.59.39 # I just started , but I can't stop 15.59.57 # bash your recorder on a hard surface 3 times 16.00.09 # STOP should work, no? 16.00.13 # OFF i mean 16.00.22 # ok 16.00.24 # I did 16.00.26 # it stopped 16.00.44 # you mean bashing it 3 times? :) 16.00.44 # there is no way to make the name of the file is thier? 16.00.52 # no 16.00.53 # not atm 16.01.06 # no text input interface 16.01.16 # i'm adding that *right now* 16.01.21 # cool 16.02.07 # Zagor, how long did it take you to learn all this "code"? 16.02.27 # learn? I didn't learn it, I wrote it... 16.02.59 # Zagor, you're adding text interface? was that a patch from a while back? don't remember recent design discussion, though it was up in air 16.03.17 # kargatron: it's loosely based on the code John Wood submitted 16.04.43 # one suggestion that a lot of people would like, is if you could implement more games into rockbox. Play music and games at the same time is cool. Like, put that "more games for rockbox" patch into a bleeding edge, and let people try it. I'm shure it would take only 5min to put that patch on. 16.05.10 # and compile it 16.05.16 # botman: that will come. we just need to fix a plugin system, so we don't need to have all the games in memory at the same time 16.05.24 # oh 16.05.58 # what is your status is firmware size? It there a max size? 16.06.24 # the problem is how much memory is left for mp3 data. less free memory means less battery life 16.06.56 # since rockbox only has 2mb memory, how much have you used so far? 16.07.00 # i think 6 hrs is plenty for those stupid music listeners!!! 16.07.13 # we always use all of it 16.07.19 # kargatron: lol 16.07.27 # i've gotta run. see you later! 16.07.34 Part Zagor 16.07.51 # have you ever noticed the high pitch noise when recording from the microphone? 16.08.03 # it seems like it is comming from the hard drive 16.08.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.09.12 # kargatron, are you a developer, or have you made any pathces 16.09.37 # i'm a perl developer, don't know C from a pimple on bush's butt. :) 16.09.45 # so to help, i help tidy the feature requests. 16.09.58 # never recorded, sorry 16.10.17 # oh, so you like manage the web-site? 16.10.29 # no, i just mark dupes, help classify them, etc 16.10.47 # perl is like html? 16.10.50 # the fact that the feature requests are broken in several categories was muchly me 16.10.59 # perl is a a regular language 16.11.02 # html is a format 16.11.16 # perl is for linux, I assume? 16.11.39 # perl runs on windows too 16.12.30 # i'm sure there are many perl faqs out there if you're curious. :) 16.13.10 # hey, when zagor said he needed to fix, the plugin system, what does he mean by that? 16.13.31 # botman: the noise comes from the hard drive, yes 16.13.38 # and there is nothing we can do about it 16.13.50 # btw, that noise is frikin annoying 16.13.56 # I know 16.14.00 # use an external mic 16.14.26 # Can you plug a mic, into the line in? 16.14.38 # not directly, but viua a mic amplifier 16.14.58 # what is the Digital in/out used for? Like minidisk? 16.15.03 # yup 16.15.07 # S/PDIF 16.15.52 # i hate the fact that archos doesn't give you a remote with the jukebox 16.16.00 # you have to buy it instead 16.16.07 # thats retarded 16.17.04 # got to go 16.17.11 # thanks- cya 16.17.13 Quit botman () 16.31.13 # La la la! 16.31.25 # Dansa med oss, klappa era händer 16.31.32 # Gör som vi gör, ta några steg åt vänster 16.31.37 # Lyssna och lär, missa inte chansen 16.31.45 # Nu är vi här med CARAMELL-DANSEN 16.46.01 # now how the hell will I be able to get these things in here so I can measure the current 16.46.21 # ha! idea! 16.53.57 Quit pyvasene (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.59.00 # ookay 16.59.52 # unless someone comes up with a good idea how I manage insert the amper meter into the power circuit, I'm not going to measure the power expenditure today 17.01.25 # batteries don't offer enough room per zagor's idea? 17.05.29 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 17.05.33 Quit kargatron (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.05.55 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@pyvasene.net1.nerim.net) 17.06.43 Quit mbr ("Leaving") 17.07.27 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-344.ath.forthnet.gr) 17.08.47 # Hadaka: i use to put a piece of tape between the batteries, and insert the probes in between 17.09.11 # tried that but it was a _pain_ to get them to connect and I couldn't get the setup stable 17.09.14 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 17.17.52 Quit pyvasene (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.19.36 # yahh! made it! 17.19.39 # now let's see 17.22.10 # hmmh, the gauge on this thing doesn't seem to look right at all, it's as if this plug is fixed to being 10A DC 17.22.50 # ok, let's work on that 17.31.01 Join Norrin [0] (trilluser@p3EE0D64E.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.34.30 Part Norrin 17.45.27 Join probonic [0] (~phil@host217-34-83-86.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 17.50.14 Join Orby [0] (~gschaefer@63.218.224.145) 17.50.36 # hey peeps and LinusN 17.50.41 # yo 17.50.44 # * Orby is the artist formerly known as gschaefer 17.50.53 # :-) 17.51.06 # how goes? 17.51.10 # get your unit to turn off? 17.51.12 # * Orby is listening to Christopher Lawrence - Sign of the Sun (headphones)''8 17.51.19 # no :-( 17.51.35 # see what u get for not going with the small screen player like mine! 17.52.29 # I'm downloading the sh compiler now 17.52.39 # took a long time to get the email from the site 17.54.08 # Orby: it's the players i have problems with 17.54.16 # email? 17.54.33 # you mean the mailing list? 17.54.52 # yeah, had to sign up on the download site before I could download that compiler for SH 17.54.54 # GNUH8 v0203 Windows Tool Chain (ELF Format) 17.55.16 # h8? 17.55.28 # hate? 17.55.34 # no, me not hating today 17.55.37 # that was me yesterday 17.56.19 # oh wait, you mean the H8 in GNUh8 17.57.08 # dang d/l'd the wrong one! 17.57.08 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 17.57.10 # thanks! 17.59.14 # should be sh1 18.00.31 # smile guys, you're on tv! ;) 18.00.33 # yeah, I see that (now) 18.00.43 # * Orby is download the RIGHT one now 18.00.56 # so what kinds of music do u like? 18.01.07 # almost everything 18.01.18 # it depends on the mood 18.01.25 # teevee? 18.01.37 # wot's dat? 18.01.49 # oh dat's the thing my UltimateTV records stuff off of! 18.01.58 # u like christopher lawrence (dj) 18.02.02 # TV! ;-) 18.02.13 # dance music? 18.02.15 # * Bagder returns 18.02.33 # his new cd is rawkin 18.03.01 # what tv? 18.03.16 # me no see no tv here 18.03.32 # Zagor is having guys from a local TV station visiting him today 18.03.58 # * LinusN combs his hair :-) 18.04.03 Quit Orby (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.05.17 # yup, they're making a spot about my aparment swapping site 18.05.52 # it's airing tomorrow. everybody get glued to their sets! ;) 18.06.10 # hey, you need to tape it 18.06.51 # yeah, I will 18.08.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.10.07 # screen shots now. smiiiile! :-) 18.10.32 # * Bagder grins 18.14.58 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 18.15.03 # hi! 18.15.57 # hola 18.16.38 # buenas tardes Bagder :) 18.16.55 # gracias 18.17.21 # i think you miss Nerja :) 18.17.27 # hehe 18.27.12 # quelsaruk: thanks for the flowers!!! 18.27.28 # you got them? 18.27.31 # today 18.27.34 # mision impossible III 18.27.36 # :) 18.27.46 # Sara was pretty surprised 18.27.50 # me too 18.27.52 # hahaha 18.27.55 # hehe, you rock quelsaruk 18.28.08 # i had to think....who is Jose Maria...? 18.28.17 # then i saw the card 18.28.44 # well, linus i couldn't tell you :) that's why i wanted zagor 18.28.51 # spanish rockbox friend 18.28.53 # hehe 18.28.53 # :P 18.29.05 # i forgot your adress 18.29.08 # address 18.29.13 # thanks a lot, that warmed 18.29.25 # it's the less i can do 18.33.46 # adiamas sent us a get-well card the other day 18.34.09 # :) 18.34.14 # that's great :) 18.35.11 # what's the hard-drive when it's not totally of - sleeping or standby? 18.35.37 # sleeping 18.35.58 # ok - writing a mail about my findings to the list 18.36.46 # ok 18.53.52 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 19.01.11 # posted 19.02.08 Quit xam ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/1]") 19.10.54 # ooh, I like svn+ext:// 19.10.56 # whops 19.13.53 # ¿? 19.27.25 Quit TotMacher () 19.27.42 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DA55B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.29.59 Join PhantomDJP [0] (Phantom@ASte-Genev-Bois-109-1-4-69.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.30.03 # HELP ! 19.30.12 # how to use the new keybord ? 19.30.22 # the virtual keybord, sure 19.30.24 # i don't know :-) 19.30.30 # really ? 19.31.18 # "Added virtual keyboard for text input" 19.31.42 # Zagor did that 19.31.47 # yes 19.31.50 # i don't think it is in use yet 19.32.14 Quit TotMacher (Client Quit) 19.32.42 # but it is in the new daily, so there is a way to use it, isn't it ? 19.35.09 # sniff 19.36.07 # no, i think only the code for they keyboard entry is added 19.36.13 # no use for it yet 19.36.23 # we will use it for filename entry later on 19.36.48 # sniff 19.37.00 # Putain de merde 19.37.05 # fait chier 19.37.08 # sorry 19.38.31 # PhantomDJP: what did you want to use it for? 19.38.40 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip116.rsidus.riege.de) 19.39.05 # rename recorded mp3, filename, folders, and co 19.39.48 # i think it's supposed to be used for that 19.39.52 # but not yet 19.40.18 # arf, so, s y s 19.40.26 Quit PhantomDJP ("Fermeture du client") 20.06.10 Join Mine78 [0] (Pozzolo@host5-22.pool80116.interbusiness.it) 20.06.25 # I LOVE YOU ALL ! I SOLVED THE PROBLEM CHANGING THE BATTERIES ! 20.06.30 # THANK YOU ! 20.06.35 # Probably one of them was faulty ! 20.06.38 # I will check ! 20.06.43 # with a tester 20.06.51 # hoping to find the non-working one 20.06.59 # I don't think all 4 batteries went bad ! 20.07.57 # thanx to Zagor and LinusN 20.08.16 # LinusN: you have another fan :) 20.08.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.09.48 # How much does a 1.2V 1800 millampere costs in your coiuntry ? There costs 6 dollar ! 20.10.07 # for one battery? 20.10.17 # yes 20.10.20 # just arrived 20.10.21 # wow 20.10.36 # 6 Euros = ~ 6 dollars 20.11.06 # how much do you pay them ? 20.12.38 # i din't remember 20.12.47 # maybe 4-5 i think 20.12.53 # 1.600 milliampere 4 dollars 20.13.30 # but how a battery can break-down ? 20.15.05 Quit Mine78 ("Shokowahhhhh dwahhhnowan!!") 20.18.23 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 20.18.37 # hi Bagder 20.18.41 # rehi 20.24.41 Join Moof [0] (~moof@195.101.176.125) 20.25.20 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|away (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 20.30.08 Join xam_ [0] (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 20.35.03 Nick xam_ is now known as xam (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 20.36.44 Join jh101 [0] (~jhagani@dhcp241-21-151-24.nt01-c6.cpe.charter-ne.com) 20.37.29 Quit jh101 (Client Quit) 20.41.31 Quit xam ("ChatZilla 0.8.7 [Mozilla rv:1.0.0/1]") 21.04.33 Join tot|away [0] (tot@ip116.rsidus.riege.de) 21.04.34 Quit TotMacher (Connection reset by peer) 21.17.49 Nick tot|away is now known as TotMacher (tot@ip116.rsidus.riege.de) 21.22.37 # time to run off 21.22.39 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 21.31.32 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 22.01.32 Quit TotMacher () 22.01.43 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.06.47 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip116.rsidus.riege.de) 22.08.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.13.46 Join slazZ [0] (~slazz@b101172.adsl.hansenet.de) 22.13.51 # hi seb 22.14.26 Quit slazZ (Client Quit) 22.21.11 Quit TotMacher () 22.22.02 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DA1A0.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.31.23 Join edx|notebook [0] (~edx@pD9EAA65E.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.34.06 # * adi|sleep sighes 22.34.13 # pssst zagor? 22.34.52 # Zagor? 22.35.54 Quit edx (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.40.55 Quit Zagor (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22.44.52 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 22.44.55 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-195-227.bct.bellsouth.net) 22.50.20 Part kargatron 23.02.43 Nick edx|notebook is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EAA65E.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.09.36 Quit TotMacher () 23.10.01 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip116.rsidus.riege.de) 23.15.21 Quit edx ("n8") 23.23.47 Quit TotMacher () 23.24.03 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DA1A0.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.54.01 Join k3no [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.202)