--- Log for 12.12.102 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 19 days and 9 hours ago 00.00.34 # paulheu: does this happen every time you record? 00.00.38 # hmmm ok.. but you feel changing to 44 should not make much difference? 00.00.45 # not sure 00.00.55 # It has for the last two weeks yes 00.01.05 # i don't think the MAS is to blame 00.01.28 # it must be that something CPU intensive happens at that point in time 00.01.34 # ok. It first happened monday last week to be exact 00.01.35 # or at a certain size 00.01.56 # can you see anything specific on the display/led? 00.02.32 # nope.. there is no indication something is wrong.. 00.03.05 # paulheu: daily build december 2? 00.03.06 # not that I paid much attention to it 00.03.56 # current is 021209-1642 that's what I used monday 00.10.00 # It just might be that ATA poweroff was enabled.. but I'm not sure. I will try with it both on and off later.. 00.10.34 # Also could ATA poweroff be disabled by default when the adapor is plugged in? or am I rambleing here? 00.11.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.11.54 # paulheu: the intention is to make ata poweroff stable, so i don't see the point of disabling it at all when we finally get it working flawlessly 00.12.46 # ok.. But I'll leave it disables for now to see what happens.. 00.13.42 Quit TotMacher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.17.19 # I'm outta here.. gotta get some sleep..;) 00.17.26 Quit paulheu () 00.17.29 # it fails at exactly 28:17 01.00.32 Join probonic [0] (~phil@host217-39-18-2.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 01.05.46 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m131.net81-67-41.noos.fr) 01.05.55 # hello !! 01.06.20 # hi 01.07.29 # sava?:) 01.09.04 Quit ken0 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.09.21 # ca va bien merci, et vous? 01.09.45 # :) i'm allright 01.10.04 # just watched billy eliot... it was cool 01.10.41 # billy eliot? 01.11.20 # it's that british movie about a young boy that wants to be a dancer 01.11.55 # oh 01.12.07 # http://us.imdb.com/Title?0249462 01.12.22 # 7.8/10 :)) 01.20.40 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-153-120-221.mia.bellsouth.net) 01.32.30 # "But father, I just want to dance" 01.33.09 # ;) 01.38.30 # LinusN: what is in the Rockbox crystal ball? 01.38.48 # LinusN: do you know anyone who DJs with Archos recorders? 01.41.17 # elinenbe: i heard about a guy with two recorders in a case, for dj:ing 01.41.45 # elinenbe: we are working on the recording among other things 01.42.13 # playlist generation, queues 01.43.15 # LinusN: once those two last things are implemented, then Rockbox will include everything the original firmware had... 01.44.04 # I think it would be a great idea to have a current "play field" of directory and "current directory + subdirectory" 01.44.20 # if you chose the latter, then the archos would create a playlist on the fly... 01.45.28 # play field? 01.45.47 # well, the realm of what you want to play... 01.46.00 # I am having a hard time trying to explain it. 01.46.12 # what I mean is you know how there is shuffle on/off 01.46.20 # ok, you select a list of directories to play? 01.46.22 # repeat 1/all/off 01.46.48 # well now there is also, "current directory"/"current directory + all sub directories" 01.46.53 # for recursive playing. 01.47.15 # and when you choose, "current directory"/"current directory + all sub directories" , it makes a playlist on the fly and then loads it. 01.47.37 # so, if I had directories like: U2/ 01.47.40 # with nothing in it 01.47.46 # and U2/Boy 01.47.51 # and U2/Joshua Tree 01.47.55 # and U2/October 01.48.06 # and went into U2/ 01.48.25 # I could choose recursive/shuffle on/repeat all 01.48.59 # and it would play all three albums shuffled and repeated! 01.51.19 # there! 01.51.46 # who in their right mind would buy this: http://www.neurosaudio.com/ ? 01.52.09 # when you can get an archo 20 gig recorder with USB 2.0 for under $200! THAT is insane! 01.53.46 # I guess playlist generation means beeing able to play a whole directory (recursively) without having to make a playlist (on the computer) first 01.54.19 # BoD[]: yup 01.54.32 # so that's perfect :) 01.55.04 # well after that we may need a playlist browser 01.57.00 # anyway i have to go to bed :) see you buy 01.57.15 # night. 01.57.22 Quit BoD[] ("i mean BYE not buy :))") 01.57.38 # LinusN: what do you think about Archos including ROckbox with the product? 01.59.30 # the new 1850mAh batteries kick ass! http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM 01.59.38 # i think it's flattering, but i think they could have been a little more cooperative by giving us documentation 01.59.55 # we asked for it, but they are silent (again) 02.00.12 # we gave them a week to respond 02.00.17 # well, I am sure they take a while to answer their emails... OH! 02.00.19 # forget that. 02.00.44 # Who emailed you exactly... joe blow secretary, or an engineer? 02.03.01 # the product manager of Archos Products 02.03.07 # in france 02.04.21 # well, who knows who he would even speak to? 02.04.43 # it seems that there is a lot of burecratic bullshit at that company. 02.06.25 # i wouldn't know about that, i've never been in touch with them before 02.07.35 # well, from what I have heard, requests to the company, even to customer service can be lost in the wind. VERY EASILY! 02.11.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.12.50 # anyone remember offhand wha the cli command is to allow remote gui access to your box? 02.12.58 # its somehting for X permissions... 02.13.38 # xhost +[hostname] 02.13.49 # ahha.. thanks.. damn its been a while 02.18.36 # ooops, gotta reboot 02.18.40 Part LinusN 02.31.12 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 02.56.12 Join MrSnazz [0] (~jmc@e-64-35-146-236.empnet.net) 02.56.37 # found out the answer to the "mystery" of the black-trim jukeboxen. 02.57.06 # archos sells 15gb models in black, but they also made 20gb black trim models and sell those only through BestBuy 02.57.09 # and it is... 02.57.16 # aha 02.57.23 # at first they denied that they made any at all :) 03.02.52 # :-) 03.06.57 Quit probonic () 03.07.01 # anybody here built rockbox under windows? Followed the directions on the site, but hit a snag :-/ 03.11.28 # i've never done it 03.11.41 # tell me about your problem 03.12.05 # Here's what happens.. 03.12.20 # demo_menu.c: In function `demo_menu': 03.12.20 # demo_menu.c:47: `LANG_BOUNCE' undeclared (first use in this function) 03.12.33 # occurs for LANG_BOUNCE, LANG_SNOW, LANG_OSCILLOGRAPH, and LANG_CUBE 03.14.02 # this is while doing a 'make -f win32.mak' 03.17.38 # I think there is a missing step not in the howto on the site 03.17.47 # which converts the LANG_XXX into the proper value from the .lang file 03.18.09 # first of all, are you using cygwin? 03.18.16 # nope 03.18.34 # you should 03.18.38 # probably 03.18.46 # saves you some trouble 03.18.50 # I'd imagine so 03.18.51 # ;) 03.18.58 # I'll get it. 03.19.09 # remember to get a full install 03.19.18 # thanks 03.19.31 # so this LANG_XXX conversion probably happens in the configure script, I'd imagine 03.19.43 # it is done in the makefile 03.19.49 # when you build 03.19.59 # hrm 03.20.00 # but i don't know if win32.mak is up to date 03.20.03 # ah 03.20.12 # almost nobody uses it... 03.20.16 # figures. 03.20.21 # I'll build under linux then. Thanks ;) 03.26.18 # cygwin is really nice to use. 03.26.29 # forget that win32 stuff... 03.26.42 # I compile under win2k with cygwin with ease. 03.27.21 Join DotcuM [0] (~pop@66-50-85-18.prtc.net) 03.28.02 # rockbox doesnt work in jb fm recorder right? 03.28.30 # the FAQ says nope 03.28.42 # DotcuM: no, not yet 03.28.59 # we need someone to take it apart and examine it 03.29.03 # ah 03.29.09 # none of the rockbox developers own one 03.29.48 # and it seems to use a different scrambling algorithm for the AJZ file 03.29.56 # well ill be looking forward to when you guys release it for fm recorder, if you ever do =) 03.30.11 # DotcuM: you have one? 03.30.14 # yes 03.30.51 # is the archos firmware crappy on that one too? 03.30.53 # i told 2 of my friends which have the normal recorder about the site and now it will be me that wont have the rockbox ;) 03.31.07 # yah 03.31.20 # dont know how crappy is the one from the recorder 03.31.30 # but there are still features that this firmware doesnt have 03.31.35 # like full shuffle 03.31.44 # or easier playlist creator 03.35.09 # really wanted to test the game part of the rockbox 03.36.32 # do you guys know of any other group of people that are creating other firmwares for archos jukeboxes? 03.37.36 # no 03.38.10 # i *really* need some sleep 03.38.21 # it's 3:40am over here 03.38.38 # bah its still early ;) 03.38.46 # :-) 03.38.48 # nite 03.38.50 # nite 03.38.57 Part LinusN 04.11.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.17.23 Join FreakyFlo [0] (~none@HSE-Kitchener-ppp321131.sympatico.ca) 04.18.22 # hey! quick question - has anyone experienced the problem (with the original JB6k 4.53) where MP3 playback stops prematurely while being powered by batteries, but not when plugged in? I am using Rockbox 1.4.. 04.21.56 Join montykid [0] (~montykid@webcam.naz.edu) 04.25.54 Quit DotcuM (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.28.26 Quit FreakyFlo () 04.28.52 Part montykid 04.28.58 Join montykid [0] (~montykid@webcam.naz.edu) 04.52.21 Quit montykid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 05.16.37 Quit hardeep ("Killed by frash (Requested by panasync)") 05.46.47 Join Artine [0] (~Artine@gso163-11-242.triad.rr.com) 05.48.07 # Hey all. I'm trying to build the UISim, but I've got two problems. First, the file keysym.h doesn't exist, but button-x11.c seems to need it, and 2, a lot of the files use the directory X11 isntead of x11. I can change it, but this mixed case surprises me. Am I missing something? 05.53.11 # umm why would it use x11? 05.53.56 # Because the file tree has uisimulator/x11 rather than uisimulator/X11 05.55.54 # well 1. keysym.. that a system file.. 05.56.03 # if you don't have it.. thats your machine.. 05.56.25 # and i don't get what you mean by " a lot of the files use the directory X11 isntead of x11" 05.59.14 # Okay, well, actually, your answer about keysym answered my question about the X11 issue. ::feels stupid and runs off to investigate why his system wouldn't have those files:: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction :-) 06.00.26 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.01.30 Nick seb-sleep is now known as seb-away (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.01.35 Nick seb-away is now known as seb-sleep (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.08.00 # Artine: no prob :) 06.12.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.13.52 # Can I use the simulator to test out new binaries of the firmware before putting them on the Archos? 07.14.02 # no 07.14.06 # well.. yes and no 07.14.15 # yes if you are testing code and compile it into the sim 07.14.18 # thats why its there 07.14.29 # no if you want to dl a .ajz off the web and run it on the sim 07.14.44 # ie: compiled code _for_ the players/rec won't work for the sim 07.14.56 # like compiling for windows vs linux or mac 07.15.02 # adi|work: Yeah, that's kinda what I figured. I was hoping that as I made the small changes I wanted I could test it without having to rebuild the sim--seeing as I can't get it built ;-). 07.15.17 # heheh 07.15.24 # why can't you get it to build? 07.15.45 # adi|home: Gotcha. 07.15.56 # what is the build failure you're getting 07.16.19 # adi|home: Because it seems the dev libraries for X were never installed. The primary error I'm getting is that various files don't exist. 07.16.37 # ahh.. grab them and install them... 07.16.53 # let me know what ones you need and ill see if i can tar them up for you and dcc them to you 07.17.31 # adi|home: Well, I'm not sure what I need yet. I still have more research to do to figure this out. I'm an old-school programmer. This new-fangled X11 stuff leaves me befuddled. 07.17.40 # adi|work: Give me a console and I'm happy. :-) 07.18.11 # hehe 07.18.13 # good enough... 07.18.33 # do a compile.. and email me a dump of the console 07.18.37 # and ill get you what files i can 07.19.00 # adi|home: Hold on just a second, let me make sure it's in a state where a dump would be meaningful. I'm messing around with all sorts of things. 07.22.05 # adi|home: Yeah, it seems to be informative, but I worry that if I just grab those files that I need rather than the whole library I'll be screwing myself over later. I think I'll go find out what development libraries are available for X first, and then come back to you if I can't learn anything useful. 07.22.29 # sounds good enough :) 07.23.28 # adi|home: Holy crap... There are thousands of devlibs for X... Err, any idea which one(s) the Rockbox UI sim uses...? 07.24.15 # I'm trying to build gcc to use for sh1, as per the directions on the rockbox site 07.24.41 # getting an error at the very end.. configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. 07.25.33 # MrSnazz: I had that problem, too, but it works nonetheless. 07.25.45 # MrSnazz: By that point, the files you already need have been built. 07.25.59 # MrSnazz: Just go on to the next step. 07.26.25 # thanks 07.26.32 # I was just about to try that, figured it couldn't hurt :) 07.29.43 # woo, that works perfectly. Thanks! 07.31.35 # adi|home: Nevermind, I found the library that has what I need. Thank god for rpmfind. 07.48.08 # adi|home: Ahhh..... Built. Finally. 07.48.20 # adi|home: Now to start throwing in those few things I wanted to add. 07.48.27 # adi|home: Thanks for your help. 08.12.04 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 08.12.22 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 08.18.42 Quit Artine ("Client Exiting") 08.41.23 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 08.42.21 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 08.42.56 Part mecraw 09.01.14 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-038.dsl1.versanet.de) 09.20.56 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.21.42 # zagor.. what are the chances of getting a poll on the front page of the website? 09.21.54 # to find out 'Did you buy your Archos unit because of Rockbox?' 09.22.56 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.23.29 # A poll might be fun for us, but not very useful in the big picture. 09.23.52 # I'm more thinking about encouraging the people who bought an Archos because of us, to say that to Archos. 09.24.21 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.24.26 # yo!! 09.25.39 # oh i agree.. but it would still be neat to find out 09.34.16 # yeah it would. actually, the sf page has a survey engine we could use. 09.34.25 # some more queue function ugliness: what would you expect if you request the previous song in the middle of your queued songs? 09.34.43 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 09.40.04 # if anyone's bored and wants to try out queueing, i've put a recorder binary up at: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/ajbrec.ajz 09.40.19 # everything works except: resume, repeat one queued song, prev 09.40.46 # diff: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/queue_function_1.diff 09.42.03 # whoa 09.42.09 # you are so cool Mr. Sidhu :) 09.42.23 # I always star to think about Apu in Simpsons when I see you :) 09.42.28 # Do you talk english like him? 09.42.30 # laf, fear 09.43.02 # not quite, mainly because i was born and raised in Canada hehe 09.49.54 # :O :) 09.49.56 # hmmm hardeep.. im looking at that freeshell thing... 09.50.09 # do they not offer ssh access or is it just me missing something? 09.50.58 # they offer both ssh and telnet access. 09.51.08 # okay.. didnt see it listed.. :) 09.51.15 # i assume your the lower level... 09.51.20 # the 'send a buck' one? 09.52.38 # oh, no, i have an ARPA account 09.52.43 # maybe that's why 09.53.38 # how do you like them? 09.55.02 # they're not bad... the connection can get slow at times but it has got everything i need 09.55.16 # althought i haven't been using it as much lately 09.55.57 # nods 09.56.06 # i figure ill check out the free account, see how i like it 09.56.48 # depending on what you want another almost free server is at: me> nods 09.56.52 # oops 09.56.58 # http://bsdshell.dyndns.org/ 09.57.06 # $5 09.58.01 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.02.11 Part Zagor 10.04.49 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.04.57 # this proxy is driving me nuts. hangs for 2 minutes every 5 minutes... :-( 10.05.00 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.10.20 # Zagor: tried any other proxies? You know, there are proxies with DCC support *hint* :) 10.10.32 # tircproxy is one, I think 10.11.19 # it's not the irc proxy, it's the https proxy that's giving me a hard time 10.12.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.12.19 # my entire ssh tunnel (mail, irc, the works) locks up solid every few minutes. bloody annoying. 10.13.55 # whoa 10.14.21 # Tell me all about your ssh tunnel, I am curious :) 10.15.58 # once upon a time there was an ugly big firewall 10.18.49 # Zagor: Please tell! 10.19.36 # dwihno: if your http proxy does https, you can ssh through it into a machine on the outside. and once there, your connection is no longer proxy-limited 10.20.09 # I often work at companies who only have a web proxy and no "real" connection 10.20.36 # so the ssh/https tunnel trick is a way for me to reach my mail machines etc from there as well 10.23.11 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@62.4.7.201) 10.28.45 # i'm warming to the bidir scroll idea. rather annoying when a line that's just 1 char too long has to scroll around all the time 10.32.54 # Zagor: so you do nothing but SSH? 10.33.30 # ssh allows tunneling of any number of ports, so I have X11 irc etc over this single ssh tunnel. 10.34.42 # remote emacs, xterms etc. unix is beautiful... 10.38.16 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.0c19 for the Nintendo Gameboy today!") 10.46.19 # Zagor: so you only use ssh port thingies? 10.46.24 # yes 10.51.49 # Ah, then I'm with ya' :) 10.52.20 # btw, usb hookup fails with the "resume" screen active 10.52.31 # (when turning the unit on) 10.52.39 # yes, I know 10.52.46 # don't do that :-) 10.54.00 # Simple solution to all bugs 10.54.02 # "DON'T DO THAT!" 10.54.13 # The unit hangs when I blahblahblah 10.54.15 # "Doctor, it hurts when I laugh" 10.54.17 # Answer: then don't do that! 10.54.19 # don't do that 11.02.20 # * Zagor is in "Rally the troops" mode 11.12.21 # WarCraft III? :) 11.17.33 # Rockbox! 11.18.21 # You mean the guy who did the cube made a 3d ego shooter? :) 11.18.35 # hehe 11.20.11 Join Bagder [0] (~dast@titan.contactor.se) 11.20.22 # hey ho 11.21.06 Mode "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 11.21.40 # hi 11.24.19 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.24.39 # hola 11.25.04 # hey ho 11.25.29 # Bagder: i thought that num2max5 function was old and tested 11.25.55 # it was, but it uses floats in its original form and that's why I did that mistake you corrected 11.26.01 # aha 11.26.11 # i want the proto in an include file 11.26.30 # btw, why are you using %0d ? that 0 seems to do no good? 11.27.04 # true, it should be %1d really 11.27.13 # ok 11.27.30 # but I think %d is good too 11.28.09 # any ideas where to put the proto? 11.28.31 # probably a new header file or in some general one 11.31.00 # btw, what do we like most, 1.2Mb or 1200kb? 11.31.19 # 1200kb is 6 letters 11.31.53 # ok 1200k then 11.32.10 # I prefer 1200k 11.32.31 # i guess the point is to maximize precision 11.32.36 # yes 11.35.22 # Precision for all! 11.35.23 # :-D 11.35.38 # info should show megs instead of gigs. 11.37.21 # ls -h does 1.2M 11.38.01 # which i like better :) 11.46.46 # Zagor: so how do you access your ssh box from a host only allowing http proxy? 11.47.19 # dwihno: corkscrew 11.47.32 # Description: Tunnel TCP connections through HTTP proxies 11.47.57 # Hadaka: corkscrew? :) 11.47.59 # actually I use the https proxy, which doesn't have to speak http 11.48.03 # (not to say that zagor would exactly use it) 11.48.11 # yeah, corkscrew is a tool which does that 11.48.12 # http://ttcplinux.sourceforge.net/tools/stunnel 11.48.26 # www.corkscrew.com :-) 11.50.23 # corkscrew seems to be for http only, not https 11.50.47 # of course, doing it over http is a lot more tricky 11.50.58 # so still a hat off to those guys :) 11.51.37 # Who Am I? 11.51.37 # --------- 11.51.37 # My name is Pat Padgett. I'm a dork. 11.51.45 # hehe 11.51.46 # From the docs of corkscrew 11.53.06 # Some stupid policy might force http proxies 11.53.59 # Looks like putty has http proxy support built in 11.54.20 # how neat 11.54.27 # Zagor: What is your favorite dish? 11.54.45 Part LinusN 11.54.49 # kebab med starka såsen! :-) 11.55.35 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 11.56.18 # :-) 11.56.44 # How do you access your files when you're not home? 11.56.46 # scp? 11.57.05 # yes 12.00.13 # Okay 12.00.16 # Zagor: corkscrew uses the CONNECT method - which _is_ https tunneling through http proxy 12.00.18 # But how about realtime file access? 12.00.29 # HTTP CONNECT command? 12.00.38 # yes 12.00.41 # there's no need for corkscrew if you can do CONNECT 12.00.51 # eh? 12.01.03 # that's what Zagor does 12.01.15 # issue CONNECT and then ssh the rest 12.01.40 # well corkscrew is exactly the program to do that with - which seems to be good with error handling and authentication and all those issues 12.01.54 # Host aka 12.01.54 # ProxyCommand corkscrew 192.168.2.254 8080 %h %p 12.02.04 # sure, but Zagor has a 15 line perl script for that 12.02.16 # yeah I had one as well 12.02.17 # but 12.02.44 # :-) 12.03.01 # it used perl which is bit big, the reading and writing wasn't too efficient - and it blindly just said CONNECT to the proxy, without doing proper HTTP handling there with errors and authentication 12.03.04 # Who needs evil stuff like corkscrew when you got perl? :) 12.03.10 # corkscrew does those things properly 12.03.19 # Hadaka: ah, I'm with ya' :D 12.03.26 # Neil Sedaka :-) 12.04.06 # and... 15 line perl scripts is _huge_, what's up with the man? :) 12.04.18 # :) 12.04.39 # (afkish, debugging a kernel panic) 12.11.19 # !temp 12.11.22 # whoops 12.11.57 Join |31770| [0] (~milo@194.80.134.177) 12.12.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.12.39 Nick |31770| is now known as sereal (~milo@194.80.134.177) 12.12.59 # hey, anyone know anything about the jukebox fm recorder support? 12.13.14 # yes, we know that rockbox doesn't run on the fm 12.13.18 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 12.13.45 # is there any plans to support it in the future 12.14.02 # possibly, if we manage to find out how 12.14.02 # only if fm owners help 12.14.23 # no ones come forward yet then 12.14.52 # there are too few fm owners still I guess 12.15.02 # or perhaps they're all chickens ;-) 12.15.49 # yeh maybe thats it. Like myself, after spending around $350 - £280 12.16.18 # so how much do you think everyone else spent? 12.16.47 # probably more, cause i got mine off a lorry 12.18.06 Quit sereal () 12.21.31 # * dwihno spent too much on his 12.21.34 # Just before the price drop 12.21.42 # Naaah, you can't spend too much on the archos :) 12.28.09 # lunch 12.37.25 # Rockbox - feeds the hand that bites you 12.46.08 Quit bobTHC ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 13.02.05 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508D8C74.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.08.17 # Bagder: hehe 13.08.42 # I think it sums up our situation ;-) 13.08.50 # yeah, not bad 13.20.40 # * Zagor is adding hadaka's modules patch 13.20.47 # goodie 13.30.54 Quit Zagor ("disconnecting from stoned server.") 13.31.05 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 13.31.27 Join Josh_ [0] (~Josh@adsl-153-120-221.mia.bellsouth.net) 13.31.28 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 13.41.56 Quit pyvasene () 13.52.24 Join [keno] [0] (~marklar2@80.178.35.218) 13.52.32 Join huz [0] (~marco@AToulouse-103-1-3-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) 13.53.11 # hello, i have a problem when i want to mount my archos : Dec 12 13:44:50 huz kernel: FAT: bogus logical sector size 64543 | Dec 12 13:44:50 huz kernel: VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev 08:00 13.53.29 # if i specify vfat, i've almost the same 13.53.50 # does anyone have a clue of what i can do ? 13.53.56 # looks like a very bad file system 13.54.07 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 13.55.02 # dosfsck your archos 13.55.07 # Zagor: if i do a windows 'scandisk' do you think it will be better ? 13.55.28 # possibly 13.55.40 # i try first dosfsck thx 13.55.58 # use dosfsck -a 13.56.15 # (for automatic) 13.56.36 # at least for me, the prompting stuff doesn't work 13.56.38 # i wanted first to know what are the action of dosfck ;) 13.56.43 # ah ok 13.57.01 # Currently, only 2 FATs are supported, not 191. 13.57.03 # ?? 13.57.11 # it is a error message 13.57.15 # ! 13.57.20 # that does note bode well 13.57.24 # that's a major fault 13.57.30 # Majorens fel! 13.57.46 # huz: how was disk formatted? 13.58.02 # Zagor: i never formatted it since i bought it 13.58.10 # ok 13.58.25 # feture request : add ext3 support to jukebox :) 13.58.27 # can you connect it in windows? 13.59.11 # yeah but i have to boot (last time i did, there was no pb), i'll try that later, i've some works now 13.59.34 # the simplest way might be to backup and reformat 14.00.08 # backup might be tricky if he can't mount it ;-) 14.00.27 # apparently it worked in windows last time 14.01.08 # I have another idea : does anyone use devfsd here ? because i don't work on /dev/sda1 but /dev/sda . I'm not sure it's correct ... (i think no, but it is all i have) 14.01.25 # sda1 is the one I use 14.01.32 # (maybe i had to say that earlier ... ) 14.02.22 # /dev/sda -> scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc 14.02.26 # no it's ok 14.02.50 # ok thx all, and thx for your great job ! 14.03.06 Nick huz is now known as huz|work (~marco@AToulouse-103-1-3-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.07.29 # I use devfsd 14.08.25 # err, /dev/sda is not correct 14.08.33 # it apparently can't read the partition table there 14.08.56 # (or it's incorrect, whatever) 14.09.57 # Hadaka: what device do you use then ? 14.10.45 # sda1 14.10.54 # or /dev/...lun0/part1 14.12.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.12.33 # yes but it seems correct, if i compare with my toaster : 14.12.38 # /dev/sr0 -> scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd 14.12.49 # my archos : 14.12.55 # /dev/sda -> scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc 14.13.19 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAB274.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.13.21 # that is the disk. you need to mount the partition 14.13.29 # the partition is /sda1 or .../part1 14.13.47 # hmm ... i haven't this .. as i can mount the disk ;) 14.14.16 # i can't .. 14.14.20 # then you have one of those badly-formatted units without partition a table. i strongly suggest a reformat. 14.14.31 # ok 14.16.52 # it seems to be a problem with my kernel configuration (or devfsd configuration) as i manage to mount in on my debian box 14.19.30 Quit MrSnazz (Remote closed the connection) 14.19.36 Join MrSnazz [0] (~jmc@e-64-35-146-236.empnet.net) 14.21.35 # huz|work: that's odd 14.23.52 # huz|work: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 14.37.21 # when i modprobe sd_mod, i have this in my var.log.message : 14.37.28 # Dec 12 14:21:56 huz kernel: Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 14.37.32 # Dec 12 14:23:36 huz kernel: sda: Spinning up disk.......................................................................................................not responding... 14.37.35 # Dec 12 14:23:36 huz kernel: sda : READ CAPACITY failed 14.38.00 # what kernel is this? my kernel never says "spinning up disk" 14.38.06 # hehe :) 14.38.11 # sd_mod? what kernel is this? :) 14.38.34 # it's the 2.4.19-r7 (gentoo-sources) 14.38.53 # also, first load all your code. then connect the archos (running rockbox) 14.39.11 # doing it any other way introduces timeouts that mess things up 14.39.22 # no, connect archos first 14.39.27 # then load modules 14.39.38 # yeah i think it's a better idea 14.39.54 # no good. that will make usb-storage fail if no scsi code is loaded 14.40.32 # scsi code should be built-in ;-) 14.40.43 # that's whay I said. load all your code... 14.40.48 # not all 14.40.54 # I can't do that 14.41.19 # that's very strange 14.41.20 # I need to load ehci-hcd and usb-storage after I connect my archos 14.42.44 # I originally tried to have em all built-in 14.43.13 # i always have everything built-in 14.43.23 # yeah the good order was - tadan! - modprobe usb-uhci (i've the usb-storage built-in) / connect archos + on / modprobe sd_mod 14.43.37 # works \o/ 14.44.03 # i think i will do a new kernel with everything built-in :) 14.44.04 # ugh, that's about the worst sequence. the archos boot-up is longer than the usb-mandated initial response timeout... 14.44.05 # what is sd_mod ? is that scsi? 14.44.14 # yes, scsi disk 14.44.18 # scsi disk 14.44.24 # anyhow, as long as it works for you 14.44.46 # yeah, it's the most important ! thx for your time 14.48.57 Quit Bagder ("Client Exiting") 14.53.40 # i'm sorry but i have a question about your native language :) is that correct : 14.54.09 # Third, a control master programm whom tasks is to a control master programm whom tasks is to ... 14.57.09 # ? 14.59.59 # Third, a control master programme which controls the master programme which ... ? 15.00.21 # not 'whom' thats for persons only i'd guess 15.00.24 # oh, now I get it. 15.00.30 # it's "program" not "programme" 15.00.41 # and "master control program", not "control master program" 15.00.48 # famous MCP 15.00.53 # :) 15.00.57 # from tron, is it? :) 15.01.06 # dunno. i've actually never seen tron :( 15.01.22 Join rghf [0] (~rghf@ns.rf0.com) 15.01.24 # i guess its not from tron, but its appearing in tron 15.01.33 # lo 15.01.37 # yo 15.02.22 # * rghf has a stoopid noobie question 15.02.34 # go for it! 15.02.41 # is the jukebox multimedia support at all? 15.02.45 # no 15.02.47 # no 15.02.55 # right that answers that one :) 15.03.01 # cheers 15.03.13 # yo 15.03.17 # archos won't tell us and I frankly don't feel like spending another couple of months rev.eng:ing it 15.03.36 # Schnueff: i'm written a report on DDOS yeah 15.03.38 # fair enough 15.04.03 Quit rghf (Client Quit) 15.05.47 Quit edx ("brb") 15.05.48 Nick TotMacher is now known as tot|away (tot@p508D8C74.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.34.06 Quit langhaarrocker (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.34.06 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 15.34.06 Quit elinenbe (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.34.06 Quit adi|work (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.34.06 Quit mbr (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.34.06 Quit mecraw1212 (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 15.35.19 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 15.35.19 NJoin langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-038.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.35.19 NJoin elinenbe [0] (elinenbe@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 15.35.19 NJoin adi|work [0] (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 15.35.19 NJoin mecraw1212 [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 15.35.19 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 15.48.24 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA8E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.51.14 Nick dwihno is now known as JulDwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 15.51.20 # Ho ho ho! :D 15.51.27 # Finns det några snälla barn här? 15.52.01 # Nehepp, då behåller jag alla datablad och specar själv då ;) 15.52.28 # ,) 15.53.55 Quit Josh_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.55.04 # Zagor: you know how to run Hardeep's queue code? 15.55.16 # nope, haven't looked at it yet 15.55.31 # Zagor: by that I mean, what button to press to queue a song. 15.55.55 # http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/ajbrec.ajz diff: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/queue_function_1.diff 15.58.35 # I think Mr Sidhu's alter ego is Dr Bombay :-) 16.00.27 Quit edx () 16.01.24 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA8E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.01.32 # back already? 16.03.20 Nick JulDwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 16.05.39 Join edx|notebook [0] (Wozyat@pD9EAA8E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.06.16 Quit edx (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.12.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.21.13 # "since the version of 20021204 the battery sign in percentation(%) is more less than the version off the day before." 16.21.24 # can anyone interpret? 16.21.49 # he's trying to say newer builds show lower batt% values? 16.22.21 # that's what I'd guess, too 16.22.58 # more less == lower 16.23.19 # I think it is code... 16.23.39 # I think he is sending secret messages to his accomplices. 16.23.42 # oops, id3.c managed to be tagged as a scroll patch... 16.24.00 # elinenbe: :-) 16.24.04 # if you take the first letter of each word he wrote it says "mll rules" 16.24.14 # now, we just have to figure out who mll is! 16.24.33 # is anyone currently working on bidi scroll? 16.25.27 # i just added it 16.25.48 # really? nice :) 16.26.02 # yeah, i finally realized it's a nice option 16.26.16 # wow! I ask, and you do! 16.26.24 # that was the fastest request EVER! 16.26.28 # yeah, after only a month or so ;) 16.27.23 # what exactly does the "anti-skip buffer" do? 16.30.49 # brb 16.31.12 # it makes the disk spin up X seconds earlier than it has to 16.31.27 # The fastest processed commit request I experienced with LinusN. It was only a few hours between request and the red build. 16.31.48 # "the red build". :-) 16.32.08 # ah... 16.32.09 # brbr 16.32.15 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.34.54 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.79) 16.34.54 Quit [keno] (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.36.20 Join elinenbe [0] (elinenbe@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 16.36.41 # Zagor: you can now get rid of some of the stuff on the TODO! 16.36.47 # ah, right 16.37.05 # the configurable scroll 16.37.08 # the sokoban levels 16.37.15 # sokoban levels? 16.37.59 # yes, I played them all. Lets get rid of them. :) 16.38.02 # in the TODO. They are now in an external file... 16.38.28 # indeed they are. I have completely missed that :-) 16.38.30 # I think someone should add undo to sokoban 16.39.07 # Zagor: while you are busy adding patches, add that star game. That was quite a bit of fun! 16.39.18 # the puzzle game? 16.39.22 # yeah 16.39.26 # that was a great game 16.39.30 # and still is! 16.39.36 # ok 16.39.38 # yes. with new levels. I' ve played them all. 16.39.52 # I was writing a 3d maze game for the jbr, would anybody even be interested in playing it? ;) 16.39.59 # yes! 16.40.02 # that would be fun! 16.40.13 # is it openGL or DirectX? 16.40.17 # lol 16.40.18 # ok :) I'll have a patch next week probably 16.40.29 # its DirectX, but it requires a hardware mod 16.40.40 # you have to put an AGP card into the unit 16.40.58 # oh, no problem. 16.41.06 # everyone runs agp these days, don't they? ;) 16.41.07 # the Archos could easily do a 3D maze game. 16.41.09 # hehe, it'll look something like this: http://www.mrsnazz.com/projects/rockbox/jmcmaze/mp3maze_1.jpg 16.41.18 # MrSnazz: Hopefully not with a noisy fan. The harddrive already spoils all recordings 16.41.32 # MrSnazz: whoa! very nice 16.41.52 # is it realtime updated, or does it draw screen by screen? 16.42.09 # elinenbe: i havn't decided yet, still playing with it 16.42.33 # what I mean is, does it allow free movement (reat 3d raytracing engine), or is it "move box by box" 16.42.36 # if you mean, do you walk forward one square in a jump 16.42.44 # ah, currently its box by box 16.42.45 # s/ reat/real 16.42.46 # yeah... 16.42.52 # but I'm going to try free movement 16.43.31 Join xam_ [0] (~xam@cork-198.e-merge.ie) 16.43.36 # xam_: hello! 16.43.38 Part xam_ 16.43.45 # you scared him! 16.44.06 # Zagor: Do you allow _two_ new games within _one_ new rockbox release? 16.44.31 # langhaarrocker: I am just waiting for your on box cut editor now that disk writing is implemented... that would be great for me. 16.44.34 # actually, I'd like to get that plugin loader working before adding more games. but we'll see how far I get with it. 16.44.42 # Zagor: sorry :( 16.44.45 Join xam [0] (~xam@cork-198.e-merge.ie) 16.45.14 # xam: hi there! 16.45.19 # I am sorry for scaring you! 16.45.21 # hi 16.45.31 # do you have a rockbox? 16.45.33 # Zagor: I was thinking about that this morning actually 16.45.38 # i'm waiting for my 2100 mAh AA batteries ;) 16.45.43 # Zagor: Glad to hear that somebody is working on a plugin loader ;) 16.45.47 # elienbe yes 16.46.05 # this is the channel that talks about cardboard boxes for rocks. 16.46.14 # elinenbe: I'm waiting, too, but nothing happens. :) 16.46.14 # I need time which I don't have. It's still a long way to go for the cut editor. 16.46.18 # I like the really thick ones. 16.46.33 # * xam is connect to the internet via 1kb/s mobile phone data connection 16.47.10 # * MrSnazz is connected via rfc1149 16.47.32 # xam: wow! I am here on a 16 BIT/sec telepromt connection. everything everyone writes gets printed out here for me. 16.47.43 # I have no monitor. 16.48.03 # elinenbe must be a waste of paper ;) 16.48.17 # never! 16.48.28 # xam: well, most irc conversations can be recycled for bathroom use ;) 16.48.35 # Usually are... 16.48.36 # lol 16.49.51 # xam: where did you find 2100 batteries 16.49.52 # ? 16.50.36 # Zagor: read me: http://www.imaging-resource.com/ACCS/BATTS/BATTS.HTM 16.51.05 # yeah, but I've never actually seen the 2100s for sale anywhere 16.51.07 # http://www.thomas-distributing.com/ipower_2100mah_nimh_batteries.htm 16.51.12 # www.onlybatteries.com (and once on ebay) ... the only companies that manufactures them are sanyo and IPowerUS 16.51.13 # there is the 2100 16.51.23 # www.onlybatteries.com (and once on ebay) ... the only companies that manufactures them are sanyo and IPowerUS 16.51.33 # apparently sanyo makes really good batteries 16.52.11 # sanyo batteries kick ass... every test of them show the KILLING all the other batteries. 16.53.00 # does anything in the recharge logic have to be changed if I replace the batteries with higher capacity batteries? 16.53.15 # with my sanyo 1850s, I get 14 hours with rockbox! 16.53.31 # MrSnazz: no 16.53.38 # however, rockbox does not take my half dead 1600s into account when it figures out life left. 16.53.47 # we use delta-V charging, which is the same for all NiMH batteries 16.53.51 # It goes from 9 hours to dead in about 3 hours. 16.54.05 # yeah, the time estimation needs a bit of work 16.54.08 Join xam__ [0] (~xam@cork-201.e-merge.ie) 16.54.38 # a lot of work I would say... 16.54.41 # :( 16.54.48 # argghhhl ... mobile phone connection is unstable 16.54.59 # elinenbe: nah, it's pretty good for me actually 16.55.30 # Zagor: just wait until your batteries get old! 16.55.34 # estimating battery life with NiMH can be a pain in the butt 16.55.57 Quit ken0 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.56.01 # we have an insanely complex chunk of code in a handheld that my employer makes. I suspect it involves devil worship :O 16.56.10 Quit xam (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: xam__!~xam@cork-201.e-merge.ie))) 16.56.15 Nick xam__ is now known as xam (~xam@cork-201.e-merge.ie) 16.56.21 # i like nickserv ;) 16.56.59 # MrSnazz: :-) 16.59.17 # I'm sure I can find this info in a FAQ somewhere, but I figure it'd be faster to ask. What's the screen resolution of the JBR? 16.59.18 # Is there still interest in user configurable key bindings? 16.59.38 # 112x64 16.59.50 # langhaarrocker: I think you were the main promoter of that. 16.59.58 # thanks 17.00.17 # langhaarrocker: I may not be in the majority here, but I think it would just confuse everything. 17.00.37 # elinenbe: that's why I feel so alone... 17.01.14 # langhaarrocker: i think there is an interest, but at least I'm a little wary of exactly how huge a change it will be to the code 17.01.29 # langhaarrocker: that time would be better spent on the split editor :) 17.01.33 # huge is the right word 17.03.40 # gotta go. 17.03.41 Part Zagor 17.03.42 # elinenbe: the main problem with the split editor seems to be the file system. I haven't even looked at that. 17.03.42 # Zagor: Do you see a chance to make a file api that can split a file at an arbitrary point? 17.03.59 # that was half a second late :( 17.04.44 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.79) 17.05.32 # does ayone have Hardeep's email? 17.05.43 # not me 17.08.19 Nick edx|notebook is now known as edx (Wozyat@pD9EAA8E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.14.48 # I love the new bidirectional scrolling stuff! 17.15.22 # Does it work with high sampling rates and many lines scrolling? 17.16.03 # dont know 17.27.21 # at least it looks funny with many lines scrolling in different directions 17.28.32 # seems it eats 320kBit without complaining 17.29.03 # I don't have a multiline scroll wps. 17.29.11 # maybe I will change to that! 17.29.39 # Disclaimer: headacke - risk! 17.29.54 # I think I will like that. 17.30.11 # langhaarrocker: what about an on box text editor... that would be cool 17.30.18 # elinenbe: what bidirectional scrolling? 17.30.21 # then you can edit the wps on the box! 17.30.35 # multi-line wps with scrolling. 17.31.18 # elinenbe: And I thought it was me who had all the really weired ideas 17.32.06 # bidirectional scrolling is what? 17.32.20 # ahh.. nm.. 17.32.25 # just saw the patch info 17.32.27 # short lines scroll right - left - right - left ... 17.32.32 # nods 17.33.34 # zagor.. are you keeping track of the 'compliment' emails? 17.33.50 # Main point is that scrolled lines now are readable. 17.33.56 # Zagor seems to be offline 17.33.58 # i thought it might be nice to get an archive of those going to ppl could see 'what others are saying about rockbox' 17.34.06 # damn him 17.34.07 # :) 17.34.53 # did i miss something on scrolling? do we now have 1 pixel and 1 char scrolling options? 17.37.06 # I can only find n pixel options 17.37.14 # okay.. thats what i thought... 17.37.41 # But I don't know anything about the player. I have a recorder. 17.43.52 Quit xam ("ChatZilla 0.8.11 [Mozilla rv:1.2.1/1]") 17.49.50 # gotta go home 17.50.36 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.04.33 # anyone around with a recorder that wants to test something for me? 18.06.30 # abi: sure, I'll test 18.06.36 # I'll do it 18.07.14 # oops, I mean adi; I had a friend in highschool named abi, read it wrong ;) 18.08.17 # heh no prob 18.08.31 # okay. you have 2 choices.. 1 update from cvs and check this 18.08.34 # or i send you a binary 18.08.38 # which do you guys want? 18.08.58 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 18.09.25 # I'd prefer binary at the moment 18.09.36 # np.. recorder.. comming up 18.10.26 # umm.. or not.. hold on 18.10.32 # hehe 18.11.38 # sending 18.11.57 # same here... send it my way too 18.12.01 # couldn't receive :( 18.12.10 # 09:11 [OPN] DCC can't connect to 192.168.0.106 port 2615 18.12.18 # ahh. firewall 18.12.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.12.20 # email? 18.12.25 # e-mail is fine 18.12.26 # better yet.. hold on 18.12.40 # Its odd, there shouldn't have been a DCC issue on my end. Go figure. ;) 18.12.45 # my end 18.12.48 # ah 18.13.24 # http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/ajbrec.ajz 18.14.21 # alrighty, what's the test? 18.14.36 # okay.. scroll speed 18.14.51 # f1 -> display -> scroll -> scroll delay 18.14.53 # sorry... 18.15.02 # what is your initial value? 18.15.07 # 5000 18.15.10 # ms 18.15.19 # okay 18.15.24 # set it to 4000 18.15.36 # ok 18.15.38 # then exit, start playing a song, stop it and return to the same menu 18.15.51 # basically need to spin the drive up so the settings get stored 18.16.14 # I do it now... 18.16.19 # ok 18.16.23 # its still 4000 18.16.28 # okay.. good 18.16.36 # in the sim, it seems to get an odd number.. 18.16.38 # gives me: 2440 18.16.39 # weird 18.16.43 # after storing.. 18.16.46 # but okay.. no biggie 18.16.49 # let me try again 18.16.54 # I only played a few seconds of the song 18.16.58 # now.. drop it to < 2500 18.17.04 # nah.. don't matter how long you play 18.17.07 # ok 18.17.15 # drop below 2500, play again and come back 18.17.16 Quit tot|away () 18.17.31 Join tot|away [0] (tot@p508D8C74.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.17.51 # ok 18.17.53 # it kept my value 18.17.56 # 2300 18.18.00 # okay.. now try scrolling up 18.18.06 # tell me what your max is? 18.18.14 # 5000 18.18.18 # good :) 18.18.21 # :) 18.18.22 # thats all.. ty :) 18.18.26 # no prob 18.18.47 # oh, while doing this, I noticed that on the scroll speed option, the example text for the speed doesn't start scrolling until after the delay value has passed. is that intentional? 18.19.03 # i assume so... 18.19.13 # Zagor is the one that put it in... 18.19.21 # I'll ask him later 18.19.22 # thanks 18.19.27 # what i assume is that until the delay changes it doesn't do bidi scrolling 18.19.49 # adi: change the max scroll Hz to 50 18.19.55 # will do :) 18.20.07 # wow, 50 :) 18.20.10 # I would do it, but my computer with cygwin is out of town for a few days 18.20.11 # my eyes would pop out 18.20.24 # 1 pixel scrolling really fast is nice 18.20.37 # doing it now 18.20.43 # commited 18.21.13 # i got 2/3 that you mentioned in the email 18.21.29 # the 3rd one seems to have gone away when i set the max limit to 5000 instead of the 2500 18.21.55 # great! 18.21.57 # thanks 18.22.00 # np 18.22.03 # test and see if you like 18.22.07 # you need a binary? 18.22.13 # sure 18.22.17 # I'll take one! 18.22.32 # recorder with everything i assume? 18.22.36 # and is english okay? 18.24.53 # http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/ajbrec.ajz 18.30.11 # yes and yes 18.30.13 # I like it! 18.30.40 # :) 18.31.01 # now make it go up to 100 HZ 18.31.03 # then 1000!!! 18.31.09 # AHHH! 18.31.22 # lol 18.31.25 # ummmmmmm no? 18.31.26 # :) 18.35.23 # brb 18.35.26 Quit elinenbe () 18.50.28 Join kreegee [0] (~kreegee@gw.adsl.ddn-ddn-132-202.netstream.ch) 18.50.53 # need some help with GNUSH Tool Chain 18.51.49 # kreegee: ask away 18.52.16 # C:\rockboxx\apps>make -f win32.mak RECORDER=1 PROPFONTS=1 18.52.16 # perl ../tools/uplang lang/english.lang lang/english.lang > build.lang 18.52.16 # C:\DOKUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOKALE~1\Temp\make23202.sh: command not found: perl [1] 18.52.16 DBUG Enqueued KICK kreegee 18.52.16 # make: *** [build.lang] Error 1 18.52.23 # whats gone wrong? ;) 18.52.54 # do you have perl installed? 18.53.23 # huh? ;) i will 18.53.34 # installed, but path= seems to be wrong ;) 18.56.14 # do you know if w2k needs a restart after changing the path variable? 18.56.22 # you're probably going to run into LANG_XXX problems too. 18.56.36 # that's whathappened to me last night while following the win32 howto 18.56.39 # kreegee: not a restart but you need to re-open the command prompt 18.57.15 # the win32.mak doesn't seem to replace the LANG_ tags with the proper localized values before compiling 18.57.59 # ok 18.58.00 # C:\rockboxx\apps>make -f win32.mak RECORDER = 1 18.58.00 # make: *** empty variable name. Stop. 18.58.01 # ? 18.58.17 # you don't need to do RECORDER=1 18.58.22 # k 18.58.28 # avoid the spaces 18.58.30 # it defaults with the win32.mak 18.58.41 # k 18.58.44 # that too. ;) 18.59.03 # perl -s ../tools/genlang -p=./lang build.lang 18.59.03 # sh-elf-gcc -O -W -Wall -m1 -nostdlib -ffreestanding -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit- 18.59.03 # frame-pointer -fschedule-insns -I../firmware/include -I../firmware -I../firmware 18.59.03 *** Alert Mode level 1 18.59.03 # /common -I../firmware/drivers -I../firmware/malloc -I. -DAPPSVERSION=\"CVS\" -Ir 18.59.03 *** Alert Mode level 2 18.59.03 # ecorder -c ./lang.c -o lang.o 18.59.03 *** Alert Mode level 3 18.59.03 # process_begin: CreateProcess((null), sh-elf-gcc -O -W -Wall -m1 -nostdlib -ffree 18.59.06 # standing -Wstrict-prototypes -fomit-frame-pointer -fschedule-insns -I../firmware 18.59.07 # /include -I../firmware -I../firmware/common -I../firmware/drivers -I../firmware/ 18.59.09 # malloc -I. -DAPPSVERSION=\"CVS\" -Irecorder -c ./lang.c -o lang.o, ...) failed. 18.59.11 # make (e=2): Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden. 18.59.14 # make: *** [lang.o] Error 2 18.59.15 # is this the lang-bug? ;) 18.59.26 # not the same as what I encountered. ;) 18.59.27 # Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden. = file not found 18.59.28 # heh, i need a translation on that error. :) 19.00.06 # are you doing the make from the apps directory? 19.00.22 # and did you grab the firmware,tools,apps, etc from cvs? 19.00.24 # jep 19.00.27 # jep 19.00.31 # huh 19.00.39 # from the newest tarball 19.00.45 # well, I gave up on win32 last night and built on a linux box instead ;) 19.00.52 # you can apparently install cygwin and do it that way also. 19.01.03 # ok 19.01.10 # let's try cygwin 19.01.10 # yeah, it works no problem with cygwin which is what i use.... 19.01.14 # k 19.01.25 # after installing cygwin follow this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/cross-gcc.html 19.01.26 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 19.01.26 # * kreegee is afk for 1 hour, simpsons and daily news ;) 19.01.28 # k 19.01.30 # but the gnush stuff should work as well.... i guess the makefiles haven't been updated in a while 19.01.32 # thx for the link 19.09.04 *** Alert Mode OFF 19.09.18 Join elinenbe [0] (elinenbe@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 19.09.27 # hardeep! 19.09.30 # hi there 19.09.34 # I have something to send you 19.09.41 # elinenbe! howdy 19.09.56 # elinenbe: okay, what is it? 19.10.17 # it is some comments about the queue you are working on. 19.10.29 # I am trying to DCC it. 19.11.02 # currently it just inserts a song that you choose, but why not insert a song or playlist? 19.11.10 # also, I think it should include append. 19.11.21 # so you can either insert a song, or append a song. 19.11.39 # if you have a playlist of songs: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 19.12.27 # and you start listening, and then while listening to song 3, you browse and queue up song 12 with an insert it would look like this: 19.12.34 # 3,12,4,5,6,7,8,9 19.13.16 # oh, you mean append to playlist? 19.13.20 # then lets say you listen a little longer, and while you are listening to song 6, you queue up song 15 with append it will then look like this: 19.13.26 # 6,7,8,9,15 19.13.55 # and with playlists, it should do the same thing. 19.14.16 # so, if you are listening to song 4 in a playlist that looks like: 4,5,6,7,8,9 19.14.52 # and you browse and queue up a playlist of songs 34,45,67 as an insert it will now look like: 19.15.02 # 4,34,45,67,5,6,7,8,9 19.15.13 # are you following? 19.15.20 # are you even caring? 19.15.20 # :) 19.15.23 # that's exactly how my current implementation works 19.15.30 # in regards to playlists 19.15.36 # in fact, it only deals with playlists 19.15.46 # btw, can you resend the file please, i missed 19.16.31 # well, I think when you hold down play on a song, something should pop up that says "left - insert" "right - append" 19.16.35 # and then you can choose. 19.16.36 # The 8 song limit was for testing... we do need a limit for memory reasons but it can be reasonable large 19.17.07 # elinenbe: yeah, that makes sense re: insert/append 19.17.24 # what I was wondering is how are you going to implement shuffle? 19.17.33 # I think this way is easy to understand: 19.17.39 # queues cannot be shuffled imo 19.17.42 # you are playing a directory of 10 songs... 19.17.44 # I AGREE! 19.17.48 # it's a fifo list 19.18.00 # 1,4,6,5,7,9,2,3,8,10 19.18.10 # and that is the way rockbox shuffles them... 19.18.35 # and if after song 5 you insert a playlist of 10 songs, thay should go in in the proper order 19.18.53 # 5,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,7,9,2,3,8,10 19.18.55 # there :) 19.19.10 # right, i agree... that's also how it works right now. :) 19.19.12 # nothing added by queue should be shuffled. 19.19.16 # oh.. okay :) 19.19.17 # except for the inserting playlists part... 19.19.23 # what do you mean? 19.19.36 # i don't support queueing playlists yet... just individual songs 19.19.49 # that would be nice. 19.19.58 # if that was implemented. 19.20.11 # here is one big question! 19.20.15 # agreed. :) but lets get the basics working first 19.20.30 # lets say I am listening to a directory of songs 1,2,3,4,5 19.21.01 # and then I browse to another directory and queue up song 15 after song 5 (while listening to song 5) 19.21.06 # then what will happen? 19.21.19 # will it stop (because we are at the end of the directory) 19.21.28 # or will it go on to song 16,17,18... 19.21.30 # assuming repeat mode off... ues 19.21.39 # no, queueing is for individual songs 19.21.49 # ues? 19.21.52 # er, s/ues/yes 19.21.55 # ah. 19.22.17 # if repeat mode is off, then it will continue in the directory where the queue was made. 19.22.21 # when you select song to be queued, only that song is put in the queue list 19.22.25 # okay. 19.22.46 # I understand that, but what happens when it is the last song? 19.23.09 # when the queued song finishes, there are no songs left in the playlist so it stops 19.23.12 # I think it should stop after that song unless repeat is on, and then it will repeat the entire list (with enqueues) 19.23.14 # ok! 19.23.39 # hmmm, enqueues are discarded as they are used 19.23.44 # so repeat will not repeat them 19.23.45 # oh. 19.23.51 # I see. 19.24.05 # how are multiple enquees handled? 19.24.12 # if I listen to 1,2,3,4,5 19.24.23 # and during 3 I enqueue 8,9 19.24.28 # do I get 3,8,9,5 19.24.31 # or 3,9,8,5 19.24.41 # 3,8,9,4,5 19.24.51 # ? 19.24.52 # it's always appended... but i like your idea of inserts 19.25.25 # why the ? ? (heh) 19.25.38 # well, for insert I was talking about "insert directly after current song" or "append to end of the list" 19.26.10 # oh, yeah, that works to. 19.26.19 # It would e super awesome if that could be implemented... (and I am always willing to beta test) 19.26.31 # 19.27.06 # could you amke it an option to be fifo or filo? 19.27.23 # well, for now, I just want to get a simple version that queues after the current playing song, which is what most people are looking for (at least i think that's what they want) 19.27.34 # (that's what i want at least hehe) 19.27.39 Join drink_bleach104 [0] (drr104@VIPT07-02-loop.vip.uk.com) 19.28.07 # so if you are playing 1,2,3,4,5 and during 3, you enque first 8, and then 9 -- you get 3,8,9,4,5 or 3,9,8,4,5 depending on the option you choose? 19.28.08 # yeah, lifo is essentially insert instead of append after current song 19.28.18 # yeah -- I get that :) 19.28.38 Quit huz|work ("("envie de mcdo ...")") 19.28.40 # it's very possible 19.28.52 # that would be wonderful too :) 19.29.07 # what you have done so far is pretty nice though 19.29.31 # it's got several bugs i need to fix though 19.29.43 # nice if you want to DJ something :) 19.30.04 # oh, did you notice my bonus feature: the poor man's playlist creator! :) 19.30.04 # I think a limit of maybe 100 queues would be more than enough 19.30.16 # I guess :) 19.30.23 # yeah, 100 wouldn't be too bad, an extra 400 bytes 19.30.32 # but they can nnot be saved. 19.30.37 # take a look at /.rockbox/.queue_file 19.30.41 # they are saved. :) 19.30.44 # oooooh! 19.30.47 # nice :) 19.30.51 # I did not look there! 19.31.00 Quit drink_bleach104 (Client Quit) 19.31.06 # that's needed for resume, plus it saves precious memory 19.31.09 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 19.31.14 # you better get this stuff committed soon :) otherwise I will go nutty! 19.31.32 # you can use that same code for recursive directory playing! 19.31.46 # heh, my playlist logic is flawed so I need to correct that and fix resume before we think of committing 19.31.50 #>> "seen" used by Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] 19.32.07 # gete working :) 19.32.11 # whats the best way to download cygwin? 19.32.14 # s/gete/get 19.32.21 # kreegee: use the cygwin installer 19.32.22 # kreegee www.cygwin.org I think 19.32.34 # don't like online installer ;) 19.32.39 # download the little stub, and then the installer will take care of the rest 19.32.49 # I think that is really the only way 19.32.52 # k 19.33.43 # it's so slow :( 19.35.03 # choose a location closer to you 19.35.25 # hardeep: I am looking forward to the enqueue -- good luck on it. 19.36.04 # te queue file should be queue_file.mps 19.45.32 # why mps? 19.51.42 Join montykid [0] (~montykid@ns.naz.edu) 19.52.49 # .queue seems more intuitive... 19.53.01 # I meant .m3u or .pls 19.53.16 # .queue_file.m3u 19.53.24 # so you can play it later on... 19.54.44 # ah 19.55.04 Join Bryant [0] (twogluon@it-vlan-2-77.flexabit.net) 19.55.13 # anyone here? 20.09.42 # Bryant: yup 20.11.12 # is there a howto for putting a larger drive in the jbr? 20.12.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.12.30 # MrSnazz: http://www.funmp3players.com/reviews/modify/ 20.12.52 # danke 20.12.55 # although I recommend following my instructions for disassembly instead, for less bending of metal parts 20.13.06 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/disassemble.html 20.13.29 # does anyone know of a good site to order the jukebox from? 20.13.37 # thanks 20.13.42 # i ordered from buy.com last week, and they haven't even shipped it yet 20.14.06 # Bryant: www.funmp3players.com seems like a popular dealer 20.14.21 # i got mine from a local dealer myself 20.14.42 # i got mine from ebay, but ended up paying the same as bestbuy's price. It does have the black trim, though :) 20.14.42 # there are $50 rebates going around 20.15.21 # Woah 20.15.25 # there is a 40gig one now??? 20.15.34 # no that one is modified by them 20.15.51 # "NOTE! The 20GB version is from Archos and comes with 1 year warranty. The 40GB version is upgraded by us and come with a 90 day warranty. If you have any questions, please e-mail us." 20.16.30 # i see 20.16.51 # do you know if jandr.com is a good site? 20.17.09 # i've never heard of it before 20.17.28 # oh well, thanks anyway 20.17.39 # they have a 20gig jukebox recorder for 200 after rebate 20.18.26 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 20.18.27 # there was an announcement of a sub-$200 deal on the archos yahoo list 20.18.38 # i'll see if I can find it 20.18.38 # for the 20gig one? 20.18.43 # i think so 20.19.24 # http://shorterlink.com/?Y32S17 20.19.44 # remember the 20-gig is the only model with usb2.0. so the difference is more than just disk size 20.20.22 # oh? 20.20.31 # so the 15 and 10 don't have 2.0 20.20.37 # no, they only have usb 1.1 20.20.44 # with the rockbox firmware update...does 2.0 transfer much faster? 20.20.54 # 2.0 is *a lot* faster than 1.1 20.20.56 # I'll really enjoy the faster speed once I get a USB 2.0 card for my pc ;) 20.21.08 # oh i know...it's faster than firewire 20.21.32 # but i heard that archos boasted 60mb/s rates, and with their firmware it only got around 8mb/s 20.21.56 # the small 2.5" disks aren't very fast, so yes you "only" get 6-8 MB/s 20.22.17 # it has nothing to do with the firmware. usb mode is completely handled in hardware. 20.23.04 # bbl 20.23.08 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|away (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 20.23.36 # cool..thanks 20.41.22 Quit webmind (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.41.22 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 20.41.22 Quit Schnueff (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.44.36 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 20.44.36 NJoin webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 20.44.36 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 20.45.22 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 20.49.43 # i've heard nightmare stories about how the archos players would have hard drive errors and such 20.52.29 Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 20.52.40 # Bryant: not more than other brands, I'd say. 20.56.03 Nick elinenbe is now known as elin|run1kfast (elinenbe@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 20.56.07 Nick elin|run1kfast is now known as elinenbe (elinenbe@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 20.56.14 # I am tired... 20.59.09 # i will be 20.59.10 # :) 21.29.46 Join Artine [0] (~Artine@gso163-11-242.triad.rr.com) 21.30.29 # Okay, now this is bizarre. My computer will mount my rockbox if it's connected and turned on when the computer boots, but I can't mount it if I plug it in after the system is up and running... Anyone ever seen that before? 21.30.43 # nods 21.30.44 # linux? 21.30.51 # adi|work: Yes indeedy. 21.30.55 # nods 21.31.07 # seen odd things with the linux drives but not this 21.31.10 # when your machine is up.. do you plug in the usb, then turn your archos on? 21.32.28 # adi|work: Yes. I've also tried turning the archos on and then plugging in the USB cable. And the system seems to recognize it: /var/log/messages indicates that its connected. But /proc/scsi/scsi kind of has it listed, but all the fields are basically blank. 21.32.34 Quit edx ("on my way home") 21.32.46 # adi|work: When I say its listed but blank, I mean there's one more entry with it plugged in than when its not. 21.32.53 # and if you have the unit on then plug it in, you still can't mount it? 21.32.55 # adi|home: also, delay cant be >2500 since we store # of ticks in a single byte. 21.33.02 # adi|work: Correct. 21.33.10 # that would be the bug we had then... 21.33.11 # adi|work: I'll give it a try again if you think it's worth a go. 21.33.22 # yes 21.33.23 # Zagor how come the initila value is 5000 then? 21.33.31 # ill fix it zag 21.33.32 # not sure 21.33.36 # thanks 21.33.44 # you know what im talking about right? 21.33.47 # yes 21.34.04 # 2500 max? 21.34.38 # yes 21.34.56 # its commited 21.35.11 # goodie. thanks. 21.35.18 # you see the feature request for 'gapless playback' 21.35.23 # we cann't achieve that can we? 21.35.26 # that is high enough -- who really wants it over like 1000 21.35.46 # we already have gapless playback, if your files are gapless 21.35.54 # elinenbe: beats me :-) 21.36.01 # zagor.. i was considering consolidating the menus... 21.36.11 # namely.. we don't need general and sound seperate anymor 21.36.20 # seeing as there is so much under general 21.36.36 # coouldn't we just have settings then sound/etc. under it? 21.36.39 # I like that they are seperate -- maybe that is just me though 21.36.41 # i still think separating them is good. 21.37.04 # whats the advantage to it? 21.37.12 # I think I want scroll at the top of the Display menu though (picky me) 21.37.27 # easy fix..i agree. just didn't know where to put it :) 21.37.35 # i also consolidated the code there 21.37.38 # we had 21.37.51 # #if recorder 21.37.52 # the advantage is that sound is probably the most commonly used settings and having them visible when you hit Menu is a good thing 21.37.52 # code 21.38.00 # got ya... 21.38.11 # yeah, step size is only available for recorder 21.38.18 # right.. 21.38.24 # but we had 2 fields recorder only.. 21.38.32 # with 1 mutual between them... 21.38.36 # so i just rearranged 21.38.39 # oh, ok 21.39.24 # order: scroll, backlight, backlight_charge, peak meeter, volume dis, battery dis. 21.39.27 # that fine? 21.39.28 Quit Artine ("Client Exiting") 21.39.47 # sounds good 21.40.09 # fixed, again 21.45.31 # Yes, we changed the power code. What is your request, 21.45.31 # exactly? 21.45.33 # lol 21.45.35 # i love you zag 21.45.58 # i hat sloppy bug reports 21.46.04 # hate, even :) 21.46.48 # i need some help with setting up a sh1 compiler on cygwin 21.46.59 # Administrator@KREEGEE /home/administrator/build/binutils 21.47.00 # $ ../../binutils-2.11/configure --target=sh-elf --prefix=/home/administrator/sh 21.47.00 # 1 21.47.00 # Configuring for a i686-pc-cygwin host. 21.47.00 # Created "Makefile" in /home/administrator/build/binutils using "mh-frag" 21.47.00 *** Alert Mode level 1 21.47.00 # cc: not found 21.47.02 # *** The command 'cc -o conftest -g conftest.c' failed. 21.47.03 # *** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler. 21.47.58 # hello? 21.48.05 # read the last line 21.48.13 # "You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler." 21.48.13 # ok 21.48.15 # yes 21.48.28 # i guess i can't do it in the windows enviroment variables 21.48.38 # *environment 21.48.52 # i don't know 21.49.00 # cygwin is not my turf :) 21.49.29 # ;) 21.50.53 # oh 21.51.04 # binutils-2.11/configure doesn't exist :D 21.51.11 # let's try with binutils-2.11/config 21.51.42 # oh 21.51.52 # thats a file, not a folder this configure thing 21.53.01 Join Artine [0] (~Artine@gso163-11-242.triad.rr.com) 21.55.13 # artine, can you help me with a cygwin problem? 21.55.17 # "*** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler." 21.55.56 # kreegee: normally in unix your are expected to have the compiler in your path, and CC is just the name of the compiler exe file 21.55.57 Quit hardeep (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.57.01 *** Alert Mode OFF 22.00.57 # "If someone up there likes you, you now have a working tool chain for SH1." - nobody likes me :'( 22.00.58 # ;) 22.01.10 # :) 22.05.26 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA17A.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.05.58 # again a question about digicams, i know for hardware prints and a scanner is big, but if i want to photograph larger stuff like hacked computer or sth.. what resolution should be minimal for a digicam? :) 22.06.02 # sorry :) 22.06.44 # well there is no minimal. just make as good pictures as you possibly can. 22.08.17 # well 22.08.22 # but when buying a cam for it 22.09.31 # i think for some shots 2 megapixel should be enough 22.09.55 # hm k 22.09.58 # and what res. ? 22.10.30 # this was taken with my 1.3mp cybershot: 22.10.30 # http://groupware.zorcat.com/~jmc/2002/october/4/DSC05314.JPG 22.10.45 # obviously not zoomed in on any particular components, though 22.10.45 # 2 megapixel is 1600x1200 22.11.21 # that's a scaled down version of the photo, the original is here: http://groupware.zorcat.com/~jmc/2002/october/4/original_DSC05314.JPG 22.11.29 # that's my point too. megapixels are not the crucial factor. setting up the shot is more important. 22.11.48 # yeah 22.11.50 # totally 22.11.57 # there was lots of dust on the board, and bad lighting 22.12.12 # the purpose wasn't to document the chips in that case, though ;) 22.12.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.12.41 # is that a 68360? naah? 22.12.44 # Zagor, can it be possible that a standart cygwin installation doesn't include all needed files? 22.13.17 # kreegee: sorry, i don't know. maybe. i have never used cygwin myself. 22.13.28 # k 22.14.40 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 22.14.59 # HC16 22.15.31 # the board itself is the Portable DataLab that goes with the HP48/49 22.15.38 # ah 22.15.50 # i wrote the firmware for it 22.16.03 # nice! 22.16.10 # yea, it was a fun project ;) 22.17.29 # it actually outputs data in hp's five-nibble-word list format, so the calculator can load the data directly into memory and use it with no parsing 22.17.49 # the downside is that I didn't have enough codespace left for anouther output format, so I had to write PC code to parse that HP data. 22.18.15 # well pc software is better than extra hp software, i would guess 22.18.25 # totally, that's why we did it that way 22.18.35 # the calculator was way too slow and burdened already to expect it to parse 22.19.05 # thankfully I didn't have to write the HP code :D 22.19.34 # MrSnazz, could 680x480 be enough ? 22.22.00 # mrsnazz 22.22.14 # do you use cygwin? 22.23.13 # kreegee: nope 22.23.29 # webmind: it might be, if you have good lighting and focus in on parts/mods 22.23.45 # I think it probably would be. 22.24.05 # so long as the camera can focus on close objects 22.24.16 # hm k 22.24.19 # dunno 22.24.21 # * webmind wonders 22.24.50 # he can buy a cheap digicam for 69euro or use my analogue cam and have to buy film 22.25.12 # what model of cam are you looking at? 22.30.36 # http://www2.alternate.nl/html/nodes_info/mk-q80.html 22.30.38 # that one 22.32.47 # hmm, don't see anything about focus distance... hard to say 22.33.56 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 22.37.39 # damn qware is site is japanese or sth 22.39.38 # huh? 22.40.44 # looking on info for cam 22.44.20 # aha 22.44.56 # LinusN, do you use cygwin? 22.48.09 # no, i use linux 22.50.02 # k 22.50.24 # anybody tried recording since yday? 22.52.29 # not yet 22.52.55 # I can though, if there's something specific you want tested 22.53.30 DBUG Enqueued KICK montykid 22.53.30 # 03is it possible to switch back to the Archos OS for recording with Rockbox? 22.54.17 # montykid: yes 22.54.19 # montykid: yes, you can d/l the original firmware, put it on the disk as orig_archos.ajz and play the firmware file in the dir browser 22.54.41 # 03ahh 22.54.43 # smack! rockbox loads the firmware and runs it 22.54.43 *** Alert Mode level 1 22.54.43 # 03thanx! 22.55.05 *** Alert Mode level 2 22.55.05 # 03awesome, i looked for that on the website, but couldn't find it 22.55.31 # I havn't looked very hard, but is it possible to display ID3 tag info in the file list view, rather than the filenames? 22.55.53 # no 22.56.21 Quit edx ("good night") 22.56.28 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (trilluser@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.56.50 # good morning ;) 22.56.52 # not without more code, anyway :) 22.56.55 # thanjs 22.57.28 Part montykid 22.59.17 # MrSnazz: reading all tags is too slow. i have an idea about an ipod-style id3 database though, that could be used for browsing id3 tags instead of file names 23.00.05 # ah, I was wondering about the speed issue. Perhaps for now I'll just write a script to alter my filenames to the format that I want them in ;) 23.00.33 # yeah, that's faster :) 23.05.06 *** Alert Mode OFF 23.08.05 # try tag&rename if you use windows 23.10.46 Quit kreegee ("tired") 23.38.22 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|away (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.48.30 # why did montykid's text come in green? 23.49.13 # did it? I strip all colors. 23.50.27 Quit Artine (Remote closed the connection) 23.52.24 # yes, it was green 23.52.36 # i have colored nicks 23.52.48 # but all other text is white for me (xchat) 23.53.52 # nods 23.53.53 # same here 23.54.00 # and on that note.. im headed home... 23.54.05 # see ya guys later 23.54.10 # hey 23.54.18 # hey you too 23.54.18 # do you guys work at archos or something? 23.54.28 # nope 23.54.30 # no 23.54.30 # or you just hang out here 23.54.44 # i work for a small start up (ver. 2.0) 23.54.47 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 23.54.47 # * adi|work smirks 23.54.51 # ah yes 23.54.58 # Zagor.. i tell you what we wanted to name the co. this time? 23.55.18 # old co. was vPort 23.55.32 # so.. we wanted to name the new one AtloV 23.55.37 # !?? 23.55.42 # aloof 23.55.49 # [a]ll [t]hats [l]eft [o]f [v]port 23.55.50 # :) 23.55.51 # aloos, even 23.55.54 # hehe 23.56.03 # i love being a geek 23.56.05 # A Lot Of Old Shit 23.56.05 # home going 23.56.11 # * adi|work is away: headed home