--- Log for 17.12.102 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 24 days and 10 hours ago 00.06.39 Join dudadical [0] (~thecopes@rdu163-120-098.nc.rr.com) 00.06.52 # hey 00.07.05 # does anyone know when Rockbox 2.0 will come out? 00.07.54 # hey, is anyone here? 00.08.26 Quit laotan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.08.27 Join laotan [0] (~jesse@markham.openflows.org) 00.08.35 # when its ready? 00.09.12 # yes 00.09.16 # when? 00.10.39 Quit NiarkY ("leaving by all :)") 00.11.08 # Greetings, brothers! I have come from... The future! 00.11.17 # hey, Is anyone frikkin here? 00.11.27 # It is known to myself, and other time travellers, that rockbox v2.0 will be released on... 00.11.37 # when? 00.11.49 # I was going to tell you, but since you said "frikkin", I won't. 00.12.01 # dude........come on! 00.12.13 # ask nicely 00.12.27 # please 00.13.10 # It'll be released on february 31st of 2003 00.13.17 # if everything goes according to plan 00.13.38 # you are probably bull shitting me 00.13.41 # nope 00.13.45 # I'm totally serious 00.13.47 # hey 00.13.50 # are you a developer? 00.13.53 # yes 00.14.07 # you should never tell an information from the future 00.14.16 # BoD[]: I know the risks, but I had to take the chance 00.14.24 # cuz, I bet you just give answers, that are fake. 00.14.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.14.38 # that's nice, its the best answer I have. 00.14.41 # now that they know the date, the developpers won't do anything 00.15.02 # since they know it'll be released anyway on this date 00.15.06 # oh no! 00.15.45 # hey, have any of you ever put on the Chip8 games patch? 00.15.50 # you might have created a time paradoc 00.15.52 # x 00.16.22 # BoD[]: muhahaha! I'm secretly an iPod developer! 00.16.27 # well, gotta go, you bull shitter 00.16.30 Quit dudadical () 00.16.31 # bye dud 00.16.42 # I'm amazed that he didn't pick up on the fact that there *is* no February 31st 00.16.55 # :))))) 00.31.54 Join wallie [0] (~wallie@h-69-3-129-54.LSANCA54.covad.net) 00.33.00 # does anyone know if rechargeable lithon battery works in Jukebox Recorder? 00.33.12 # not supposed to use those.. 00.33.44 # i know that it voids warranty...but has anyone tried it out? 00.33.58 # there are electrical reasons not to do it... 00.34.03 # I don't know if anybody has tried though 00.34.07 # ah I c 00.34.12 # you might be the first :) 00.34.15 # hehe 00.35.03 Join probonic [0] (~probonic@host217-39-18-2.in-addr.btopenworld.com) 00.39.48 # what about combustion batteries 00.40.18 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.40.24 # re LinusN 00.41.19 # yo 00.42.12 # it's a shame that lithon battery can't be used 00.42.36 # it has to do with the ferocious nature of lion batteries 00.42.40 # wallie: why that? 00.42.51 Quit probonic ("Client Exiting") 00.43.34 # the mileage of my batteries took a dive after just a week of usage 00.43.48 # i suppose it's the memory issue 00.43.53 # hardeep you there? 00.44.18 # wallie: memory issue? on NiMh? I doubt it 00.44.40 # you have suggestion then Linus? 00.45.01 # wallie: what did you do? what archos model do you have? 00.45.01 # jukebox recorder 20 00.45.18 # did you charge them fully before you used them the first time? 00.45.23 # yes 00.45.24 # but 00.45.29 # on the 3rd use 00.45.55 # I did plugged in the ac adapter after about 1/2 of the power left in battery 00.46.08 # so that I can use it to record a 4-hour recording 00.46.32 # that shouldn't make any difference 00.47.07 # maybe the batteries are just bad? 00.47.16 # i guess so 00.47.21 # did you use the standard charger? 00.47.54 # yep 00.48.50 # then i guess you got a bad battery cell 00.49.13 # Jet8110: yes, I am here (sorta) 00.49.23 # yeah...time to hit Radio Shack..hehe 00.49.40 # wallie: yeah, too bad 00.49.52 # thx Linus 00.49.53 # was the recorder brand new? 00.50.06 # about a month old 00.50.47 # you should complain 00.50.49 # I *gave* one of my two spare batteries to a guy for he can *sell* his old player for he can *buy* a multimedia 00.50.53 # i'm too kind :) 00.51.03 # BoD[]: you're a saint 00.51.24 # h ahahaha :)) 00.51.52 Quit JimmyDurante3 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.52.15 Part wallie 00.52.24 # I have to go to bed now 00.52.28 # nite 00.52.29 # bye !! 00.52.37 Join wallie [0] (~wallie@h-69-3-129-54.LSANCA54.covad.net) 00.52.51 Quit BoD[] ("cheufeule") 01.00.28 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.0c19 for the Atari 2600 today!") 01.08.18 Part LinusN 01.19.11 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 01.27.25 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EABE1B.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.27.27 Quit edx (Remote closed the connection) 01.29.08 Part wallie 02.00.01 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EABE1B.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.00.05 Quit edx (Remote closed the connection) 02.12.06 Join elinenbe [0] (]I[-97881@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 02.12.12 # hardeep: you here? 02.14.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.23.02 # elinenbe: every now and then heh 02.24.17 # hardeep: how is the queuing coming? 02.26.39 # elinenbe: implementation is complete. There is a bug either in the file writing code or the way I use it that needs to be fixed before it's submitted 02.27.11 # oh... okay. 02.27.20 # do you have a build based on the latest CVS? 02.27.34 # you're welcome to try it if you want: hardeeps.freeshell.org/ajbrec.ajz 02.27.52 # diff at: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/queue_function_7.diff 02.28.05 # does that compile include the trickle charge changes? 02.28.17 # it's almost latest cvs, i think uwe made a few changes today that aren't in 02.28.30 # yeah, trickle charge stuff is in, I updated last night 02.28.50 # nice :) 02.28.59 # yeah, I saw those. 02.29.19 # does the resume work at this point? 02.29.34 # yeah 02.29.42 # well, as much as i've test i should say. :) 02.29.47 # you should wrtie up a document to explain the exact method of the queuing -- like if you go back to a previous song, or move to the next... 02.30.08 # heh, i'm not much of a documenter but you're right, i should 02.30.26 # I think it would clear up a lot of confusion. 02.30.38 # uwe's charging documentation is great! 02.31.01 # right now, previous will take you to the song before you began queuing 02.31.12 # next will delete the queued song from the list 02.31.37 # once a queued song is removed (normally once it has been played) it's no longer "remembered" 02.31.44 # and move on to the next queued song -- right? 02.31.50 # yeah, if there is one 02.32.01 # if you shut it off, does it remember the current playlist with the queue list? 02.32.17 # yes, and it stores the correct index into the current playlist 02.32.25 # that is nice. 02.35.08 # as soon as we track down this last bug I'm going to submit the code to the list for review 02.36.26 # sounds great. 02.36.44 # I noticed that the last line of the .queue_file in many cases is wrong. 02.36.59 # yeah, that's the bug 02.37.16 # the data is being corrupted as it's written to disk 02.37.20 # oh... 02.37.27 # but only at sector boundaries 02.38.19 # hmmm.... 02.38.24 # hmmmmmm........ 02.38.42 # ? 02.39.04 # I am thinking. 02.39.08 # ;) 02.39.12 # laugh 04.03.36 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.14.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.15.06 Join JimmyDurante3 [0] (~durant3@dhcp03242.resnet.unc.edu) 04.40.08 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: not from concentrate") 04.40.08 Quit JimmyDurante3 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.02.41 Join [keno] [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.34) 05.29.19 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 05.37.29 # woo, found the bug 05.38.30 # WOO! 05.38.36 # commit the code... commit the code :) 05.38.52 # heh, there won't be commits any time soon... need to be reviewed first 05.39.10 # plus I need to confirm with Zagor the file fix 05.45.34 # post the infos to the list... 05.46.11 # yeah, i will shortly 05.46.42 # but, dinner first. :) 05.46.51 Nick hardeep is now known as hardeep|away (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 06.05.02 Join Josh_ [0] (~Josh@adsl-153-120-221.mia.bellsouth.net) 06.05.45 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.34) 06.08.10 Quit [keno] (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.08.10 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 06.08.10 Quit Jet8810 (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.08.10 Quit Bryant (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 06.08.56 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 06.08.56 NJoin [keno] [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.34) 06.08.56 NJoin Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-153-120-221.mia.bellsouth.net) 06.08.56 NJoin Bryant [0] (twogluon@it-vlan-2-77.flexabit.net) 06.09.22 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.09.47 Quit [keno] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.14.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.27.36 Nick seb-away is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 07.41.16 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 08.03.42 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.14.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.03.16 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.16.42 Nick hardeep|away is now known as hardeep (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 09.16.45 # heya zagor 09.16.56 # hi 09.16.59 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.17.18 # i found the bug i told you about last night 09.17.26 # yay! 09.17.46 # it's in the file writing code: file.c:~360 09.18.08 # the headbytes write is writing into the wrong sector (not seeking back to the previous sector like flush_cache() does) 09.18.20 # ah! 09.18.29 # I have a potential fix at: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/file_write_fix.diff 09.18.37 # not sure if it's completely valid though, works for me heh 09.18.47 # (not all that familiar with the file writing code) 09.18.57 # i'll look 09.19.57 # looks a bit strange. if file->dirty is always true, we will try to flush the cache on close() 09.20.14 # it's done right after that if 09.20.48 # yes, but now you always set dirty to true, even if the sector cache is empty 09.21.41 # hmmmm, flush_cache() sets it to false 09.22.04 # i was just avoiding duplicating code... we could make it explicit inside the headbytes if 09.22.23 # yes. but if the code at ~362 is executed, we should not call flush_cache, since the cache is empty. 09.22.50 # or am I missing something? 09.22.59 # oh, laf, i'm dumb, never mind 09.23.02 # i was doing a write twice 09.23.08 # yes 09.23.08 # it worked! but that's silly 09.23.11 # hehe 09.23.41 # the write at 361 should seek first, I guess 09.24.04 # i'm not sure why that happens though 09.24.07 # actually, maybe we could just remove the write and call flush? 09.24.16 # we shouldn't have passed the correct sector before this 09.24.24 # i do a seek just before the write, maybe that's changing something? 09.24.46 # yes, that could be it 09.25.00 # flush_cache seems the right thing to do 09.25.32 # except seeking is expensive in big files. i was hoping not to have to do it all the time. 09.26.33 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp91.contactor.se) 09.27.24 # hmmm, in most cases won't the seek do nothing? 09.27.45 # if you're writing sequentially without closing 09.29.10 # oh, i guess not, it looks like seek always starts at the beginning of the file 09.29.29 # hmmm, could we optimize that a bit (fat_seek that is) ? 09.30.22 # if (file->lastcluster == cluster) or somesuch 09.30.42 # yes 09.36.56 # 'about 3/64" thick' - how can americans build anything with measurements like that? :-) 09.40.31 # stubborness can get you a long way. :) 10.14.41 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 10.17.11 # zagor: alright, i think i've done as much as I can for queueing... how did you want me to send the changes: 10.17.25 # a) sf patches b) mailing list c) html link d) all of the above 10.17.45 # sf patch is good 10.17.50 # 'kay 10.19.11 # * dwihno gets Zagor some choklad 10.56.54 # if anyone's bored and wants to try out the patch i just submitted binaries are at: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/archos.mod and http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/ajbrec.ajz 11.09.39 # sleep time 11.09.41 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Reserve your copy of BitchX-1.0c19 for the Nintendo 64 today!") 11.56.10 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p5084B647.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.14.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.47.15 Join kSADerfos [0] (e-potis@vdp026.ath08.cas.hol.gr) 12.47.24 Part kSADerfos 12.49.15 Quit TotMacher () 13.03.16 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 13.09.34 Join elinenbe [0] (]I[-2787@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 13.10.03 # morning 13.15.00 Part LinusN 13.17.51 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 13.44.14 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 13.58.05 Part LinusN 13.58.08 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 13.58.22 Part LinusN 14.00.21 Nick seb-sleep is now known as seb-school (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.14.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.37.41 Quit Josh_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.59.24 Join Geudin [0] (~ablancha@212.234.51.85) 14.59.28 # hi ! 14.59.33 Nick Geudin is now known as Disciple1 (~ablancha@212.234.51.85) 14.59.38 # Hej 15.48.53 Quit Disciple1 ("Go Go Go !!!") 16.14.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.58.47 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAB1E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.59.11 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@Bald067.Baldakinen.Umea.SE) 17.13.26 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DAE66.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.22.15 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@sdf.lonestar.org) 17.24.24 Part Zagor 17.46.51 Quit Bryant (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17.46.51 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.52.43 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.52.43 NJoin Bryant [0] (twogluon@it-vlan-2-77.flexabit.net) 18.14.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.25.29 Quit hardeep ("Leaving") 18.28.04 Join SillyFly [0] (~luk@80.179.66.137) 18.28.33 Quit SillyFly (Client Quit) 19.07.46 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.34) 19.08.31 Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.35.09 Join Triple-z [0] (~Mp3@212.116.168.47.knet.co.il) 19.39.36 # hello 19.40.13 Quit elinenbe () 19.42.33 # bidiscroll was addad? 19.55.35 # DAMNIT 19.55.47 # who's up? 19.55.52 # linus/zagor ? 19.55.58 Nick ken0_ is now known as [keno] (marklar2@80.178.33.34) 20.01.06 # whats the problem? 20.14.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.24.50 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 20.25.01 # hi 21.31.56 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 21.55.31 Quit edx () 22.14.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.36.15 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.73) 22.40.31 Quit [keno] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.06.31 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m131.net81-67-41.noos.fr) 23.06.55 # Hello, world! 23.20.12 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 23.26.41 # whos alive? 23.28.11 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-153-120-221.mia.bellsouth.net) 23.31.27 # whats up? 23.32.01 # as usual 23.32.03 # :P 23.32.06 # you? 23.32.51 # got a new AMD athalon XP 2000+, man USB 2.0 RoXX 23.35.18 # :) 23.35.19 # working 23.40.28 # Merged Uwe Freese's bidirectional scrolling patch. Added configurable scroll step size and scroll start delay 23.40.36 # on 16/12 23.40.46 # how can i use it you know? 23.47.30 # how can you use what? 23.47.34 # i don't get your questions 23.47.38 # question rather 23.48.23 # the bidirectional scrolling patch 23.48.29 # yeah.. i get that... 23.48.35 # "how can i use it you know" 23.48.39 # thats the part i don't get? 23.48.53 # its the the wps 23.49.05 # whats the %thing of it 23.49.17 # in the wps i mean 23.55.18 Join DisciTV [0] (admin@ASte-Genev-Bois-104-1-3-160.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.55.22 # Hi ! 23.55.26 Nick DisciTV is now known as Disciple1 (admin@ASte-Genev-Bois-104-1-3-160.abo.wanadoo.fr)