--- Log for 08.01.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 month and 16 days ago 00.03.08 Nick mecraw_ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 00.07.25 # wethion: still fsck'in ? 00.07.38 # devZer0: I'm back.. 00.08.42 # Oh, I was called away for a bit.. ext3 tho'. 00.09.08 # what works well for you? 00.10.20 # Hadaka - looks like that works just fine for now. How often do you recommend updating with one of the daily builds? 00.11.16 # well, you can keep in touch by looking at the mailinglist/commitmails - but in general every time you either find a bug or want to see if there's something new 00.11.32 # I'm not keeping too well in touch with rockbox now, so I'm updating like once a month 00.11.54 # weth: the latest daily build 00.12.03 # Oh. :) 00.12.13 # OK..I also heard that if you hold down the ON button during bootup you can bypass the Rockbox software...is this true? 00.14.37 # really? 00.16.01 # weth: you are aware of http://www.linux-usb.org/ ? 00.17.03 # there is also a mailinglist 00.18.19 # devZer0: On my way there now.. thanks. 00.18.43 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@B2498.pppool.de) 00.19.09 # http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ is being linked from there - very good, too. 00.20.09 # read: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=563 00.21.25 # I never had any problems with the archos and usb on linux 00.22.04 # which distrib do you use? 00.22.53 # i use suse - and it works good, too. i have mandrake inside vmware here on my notebook - and it fails. but i`m not shure it 00.23.01 # is because of vmware or mandrake 00.23.18 # devZer0: debian 00.25.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.26.52 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 00.26.58 # stock kernel or custom one ? 00.27.24 # Hadaka - another question...how can you rename or delete files from the directory? 00.27.40 # devZer0: self-compiled with kernel-package - but stock kernel source 00.27.56 # shayes: rockbox can't do that yet - you can boot the old archos firmware if you need to do that 00.28.51 # Hadaka - I am trying to boot the old firmware but can't seem to so it? Can you help...last thing...I almost promise. 00.28.52 # regarding: on the "low level" the code is inside ! successfully deleted some files with some test routines. 00.29.05 # just the ui stuff is missing for that, i think 00.29.37 # pardon - wanted to say: regarding deleting: 00.30.08 # shayes: you need to download a firmware update from the archos site - and name it something else than ajbrec.ajz and place it on the hard-drive - then with rockbox, if you have show files as 'supported' or 'all', you can see the firmware listed - if you try to 'play' it, it will boot it 00.31.59 # Hadaka - can you use this process in reverse to go back to a Rockbox boot? 00.32.45 # shayes: if you boot another rockbox firmware, then obviously yes - but ofcourse the stock archos firmware doesn't boot anything except itself :) so you have to turn the unit off and back on if you wish to get back to rockbox 00.33.16 # shayes: all your settings are saved through this though, so it should be relatively painless 00.34.28 # Hadaka - OK...you can't go in reverse because Archos does not give you the option to view all files...? 00.35.00 # shayes: err, no, archos doesn't know how to load firmwares at all 00.35.18 # shayes: it's a feature built into rockbox, archos doesn't have the ability 00.36.05 # Hadaka - OK...thanks a lot for the help...you just made this player a lot more fun!!!! 00.36.27 # shayes: no problem 00.37.25 # :) never bought a device before and was so happy with that. archos jb with rockbox is really great 00.40.22 # Ok, I have the modules loaded, usb-storage, usbcore, and scsi_mod. still nothing in syslog, lsusb, /proc/devices (save major 180 usb, which has always been there) and nothing from scsiinfo about a new drive. Feh. 00.41.18 # wethion_: have you got any other usb devices you could try? 00.41.49 # Hadaka: I wish.. but no.. umm actually, I just remembered I have my daughter 00.42.00 # 's usb microscope 00.42.15 # usb controller works with windows on the same machine ? did you try that ? you also could try Knoppix Linux Live CD. really great 00.42.34 # wethion_: it would be good to know if the usb ports in general register anything 00.42.42 # how would I tell? 00.42.51 # it has very good automatic hardwaredetection. just to be shure that it`s no problem with the hardware! 00.43.09 # lemme see fi Ican find a utility. BRB. 00.43.23 # wethion_: well, especially with usb debugging turned on - _something_ should happen when any new usb device is stuck in 00.45.02 Quit mecraw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00.45.15 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 00.45.15 Join mecraw__ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 00.48.28 # weth: are you really shure your hardware is ok? had seen defect usb ports already ! 00.49.31 # if you have fast internet access, download latest knoppix iso and boot from that. it will detect usb and mount archos jb without problems. 00.49.45 Join mecraw___ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 00.49.50 # if your hardware is ok :) 00.50.44 # there is also bios option for enabling/disabling usb controller on most motherboards - did you check that ? 00.54.35 Quit shayes () 00.55.05 Join shayes [0] (shayes@sdn-ap-036caburbP0026.dialsprint.net) 00.55.41 Quit shayes (Client Quit) 00.56.57 # could anything else happen to distract me from this.. My dog just decided to unload her dinner on the living room floor. 00.56.59 Quit mecraw__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.57.14 Join vmars_laptop [0] (~vmarshall@vmars3.corp.yahoo.com) 00.57.56 Nick vmars_laptop is now known as vmars (~vmarshall@vmars3.corp.yahoo.com) 00.58.56 Nick mecraw___ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 00.59.11 # uuuuh - what a mess :D 00.59.40 Part vmars ("Client Exiting") 01.00.44 # and she's not a small dog either 1/2 black lab, and 1/2 newfoundland. Heh.. liberal applications of ammonia and disinfectant usually do the trick nicely, as in this case. 01.01.24 # I'll be back in a minute.. I'm going to make sure I didn't turn off the USB settings in the BIOS. 01.01.35 Quit wethion_ ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.7 -- Are we there yet?") 01.03.23 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.10.41 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 01.20.30 Join wethion [0] (secher@adsl-216-158-52-14.cust.oldcity.dca.net) 01.20.39 # devZer0: you still here> 01.20.40 # ? 01.22.16 # Ok, now about this firmware.... 01.24.00 # yes - heavily posting on rockbox mailinglist :D 01.26.44 # I got it. WOOHOO. I actually had to have my girlfriend tell me I wasn't a moron. can you guess what was wrong? 01.29.04 Quit mecraw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.29.21 # I'll tell you.. the BIOS. USB ws shut off. I feel like an idiot. 01.29.55 # wethion: ouchie :) well good to know there was nothing fatal there 01.31.35 # wethion: ooops ;) 01.34.30 # Yes, to say the least. now I'm looking at the firmware. for a studio, how much better is rockbox that archos firmware? 01.36.30 # wethion: well, go over the feature list in rockbox - and decide if there's things you want 01.36.50 # wethion it's free! (as in speach) 01.37.32 # I was doing that.. looks pretty cool. 01.38.06 # ricII: That's the biggest plus imho. It's simply a matter of moving the file to the drive on the archos? 01.38.56 # wethion: yes 01.39.01 # wethion yep, properly named the original frimware will load it.. 01.39.48 # good deal. Hey, thanks to all of you, I really appreciate your patience and assistance. 01.43.01 # no problem 01.45.30 # upps. pardon. was busy for a while. nice, that it was such easy problem. don`t mind about that - such things even happen to experts :D 01.47.25 # may i tell you that this project is NICE ? NICE people on the mailinglist - nice people on the chat - AFAICS (as far as i can see) :D 01.49.05 # I'm casemodding my recorder... (only mod left) 01.50.09 # so if I start to type strange things it's the polyester fumes.. 01.51.07 # hi ric ! i also want to do some casemodding. can you send me pics from that, when finished ? i just need some inspiration 01.51.26 # what are you doing, Dr. Frankenmeister? 01.52.29 # check out http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/micromusic_archos_jb20rec.jpg for a pretty nice looking mod 01.53.16 # done by someone on the mailing list 01.53.24 Join vmars [0] (~vmarshall@vmars3.corp.yahoo.com) 01.53.34 # hardeep: is that tape I see? 01.53.52 # heh 01.53.54 # i believe it's a clear case 01.53.56 # if i start typing strange things one day, it`s the soldering fumes i breathed when soldering accupacs for some weeks when working at a rc-model-shop :D 01.53.58 # mine is looks almost like that (I kept the middel part in for the keys 01.54.02 # looks like they just removed the cover and taped it together 01.54.03 # :p 01.54.21 # tape is to keep the batteries form popping out (there is no case) 01.54.33 # hardeep: this is just a logo mod - just with a jukebox stripped down to the bone :D 01.54.52 # Ondio? Opinions? 01.54.57 # it`s from me - did that some days ago 01.55.12 # ah, heh 01.55.21 # vmars: doesn't run rockbox so pass 01.55.33 # heh 01.56.32 # hardeep: ah, any idea how the firmware's differ? 01.56.39 # weth: yes - that is tape - just some tesa-tape :D 01.57.15 # basicly I'm making a transparent (well yellowwish polyester) case bottom part is already done now the hard part. 01.57.34 # i like the archos' case personally, except i wish it had a blank aluminum front instead of a wordy plastic one 01.57.36 # vmars: i've never seen an ondio and have no idea how well it's firmware works. But if the AJBR is any indication, it's full of bugs 01.57.41 # ric: how will that fit ? 01.58.24 # like a soap box? 01.58.31 # psy: i don`t like the case at all. i like "clean" designs. wonder why i didn`t buy an iPod :D THAT is really nice design! 01.58.43 # heh 01.59.02 # devZer0 no rockbox, no plain 2"5 drive.. 01.59.03 Join ClosetPacifist [0] (trevorsa@ppp06.ts1.Exmore.visi.net) 01.59.03 # well one of the things that went into my decision on the archos was it's ruggedness 02.00.29 # i don't like plastic stuff that'll scatter all over the floor if you drop it heh 02.00.40 # ric: ...no usb2.0.... and much more expensive. thats why i decided to buy archos jb :D 02.00.41 # hardeep: heh, no doubt ... I can't imagine the firmware would be too different, as they appear ro have the same funcitonality 02.01.23 # vmwars: rockbox is more stable ! 02.01.48 # i have less crashes when playing and recording with that. the original firmware is crap - really ! 02.01.50 # actuly I wanted a metalcase, but I don't have the tools to make it.. 02.02.04 # ric: want a metal case, too 02.03.11 # has anyone tried to put rockbox on an Ondio? 02.03.25 # this is nice metalcase: http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/pics/usb20_hdd.jpg - unfortunately too small for archos and not available "separate" 02.03.30 # vmars: it wouldn't work... completely different hardware 02.05.37 # hardeep: hmmm... is there somewhere where they have the hardware specs for an Ondio? (I just got mine yesterday, and don't wanna pull it apart *just* yet :-) ) 02.06.45 # vmars: i'm not sure. however, there's obvious differences like flash vs. hard drive 02.07.07 # don't suppose anyone here's tried to get a recorder running on Mac OS X? Cypress's drivers make my tower spit errors and stop at startup... 02.07.33 # hardeep: yeah, but isn't the harddrive still accesses as a mass storage device, menus look the same 02.09.12 # ClosetPacifist: there is a #osx available that may be of some help if no one here can. 02.09.59 # ClosetPacifist: I (just) got it running on Debian, so OS X should be at least possible. 02.10.34 # ClosetPacifist: can you recompile kernels in OS X? 02.11.16 # can one recompile kernels in nt and win2k/xp ? ;) 02.12.17 # devZer0: Bleh. smartass. :) OS X is just unix with a pretty shell over it, so I thought it may be possible. 02.13.05 # Hrm, now there's an idea.. I wonder if anyone has ever tried to build an open source win2k kernel? 02.13.33 # DOH! blasted xchat, thought the yellow text was messages or something 02.17.57 # vmars: i don't believe flash based players use fat32 for their filesystem though 02.18.05 # weth: i saw such project, but can`t remember the name anymore 02.18.40 # ClosetPacifist: you may want to check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/ 02.18.46 # but - do we need that. if wine would run perfect we wouldn`t need :D 02.18.59 # hardeep: one of archos's firmware updates allows fat32, so its possible 02.19.20 # vmars: hmmm, interesting. 02.19.25 # any idea how badly I could break this thing if I started plopping on various firmwares? 02.19.25 # I haven't looked at wine in a while.. how is it goint? 02.19.36 # vmars: are the firmware upgrades done in a similar way? 02.19.43 # hardeep: looked through that earlier, but couldn't find anything like my problem 02.19.46 # vmars: as the AJBR that is... drop a file in the root folder 02.19.55 # hardeep: yep, same filename and everything 02.20.10 # hardeep: mine looks to be about twice the size of the rockbox one 02.20.18 # vmars: you really won't do any damage dropping the firmware in... give it a try. :) 02.20.52 # weth: making little steps...going forward..... there is somewhat commercially "enhanced" wine which makes office2k, ie, visio run on linux 02.21.00 # hardeep: heh, I'm not sure if I trust you. :-) 02.21.12 # its called crossover office. but thats somewhat offtopic. this is #rockbox :D 02.21.21 # vmars: the worse that can happen is that it doesn't load... then you just delete it 02.21.30 # hardeep: will it still register as a USB mass storage device if I bork the firmware? 02.21.54 # hardeep: or I guess it wil just not load and keep the old firmware in that case .... 02.21.57 # vmars: the rom firmware will load 02.22.15 # vmars: so rockbox won't have any affect on usb 02.22.44 Quit NiarkY ("leaving by all :)") 02.22.48 # hardeep: hell, I'll give it a try when I get home (no us cable w/ me) 02.23.08 # hardeep: have you guys done anything with the FM version of the ajbr? 02.25.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.25.19 # vmars: zagor built a version that was recognized by the FM recorder 02.25.31 # so it's certainly possible 02.25.43 # but more information is needed about the hardware used 02.26.02 # (someone needs to open the case and take some pictures) 02.26.43 # hmm ... it would be fun if I could get this to work on the Ondio 02.27.16 # particularly if I could monkey with the FM bits of it, as it seems a little bogus 02.27.50 # zagor and linus are the guys to talk to... they can tell you what info would help 02.28.06 # if you're willing to open the case and stuff that is 02.31.08 # yeah, it was only 150 bucks, so no huge tragedy if a break it 02.31.24 # 150$ for the fm juke ? 02.31.33 # no the Ondio 02.31.40 # oh, pardon 02.31.43 # it has the same fm recorder features though 02.32.21 # I just posted a inquiry to the main mailing list to see if anyone has any ideas 02.35.11 Part ClosetPacifist ("out to troubleshoot the drivers.") 02.36.25 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.40.17 # oh well, thanks for the info 02.40.19 Quit vmars ("Client Exiting") 02.58.29 # bye - have to leave for bed. CU soon. 03.06.06 Part devZer0 03.13.18 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@user-38ldcju.dialup.mindspring.com) 03.15.11 # hey guys 03.15.13 # anybody life? 03.15.14 # live 03.18.19 Quit TotMacherr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.26.26 # heh, this really does suck...not only do I leave my archos 20gb recorder mp3 player ($270) on an airplane, but there are no true upgrades anyway, so will end up repurchasing the same device lol 03.26.34 # now IF rockbox supported the FM recorder...lol 03.27.12 # electric yellow's got me by the brain bannana 03.29.37 Join ClosetPacifist [0] (~ClosetPac@ppp02.ts2.Exmore.visi.net) 03.29.51 # lol 03.29.52 # ok... 03.30.47 # thanks for the suggestions earlier- odly, when I reinstalled the drivers and restarted, it worked fine. 03.31.09 # hmm 03.31.15 # I see you now accept donations 03.31.17 # who do they go to? 04.08.13 Join EGM92 [0] (CW-EGM92@CPE014340000355.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 04.08.24 # Hi isanyone here? 04.08.43 # * ClosetPacifist is. 04.09.26 # great!! 04.09.58 # HI, I just boghut a Jukebox 6000 20GB and I got some questions that the manual can't answer would u help me? 04.10.37 # I'll try, sure. 04.11.31 # ok, I hooked it up to the DC adaptor now, it says "battery charging..." how do I know when it's done charging? 04.12.17 # it'll change that to say "battery charged." 04.13.07 # oh ok, but untill then I won't be able to turn it on right? 04.14.17 # well, if you turn it on normally and then plug in the adaptor you'll be able to use it anyway, or if you install the rockbox firmware you can press on while it's charging todo so 04.15.01 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.16.00 # ok, sweet, problem is... I don't know how install firmware on this thing yet, I created the directory .rockbox, and put in the ARCHOS.MOD file but what am I supposed to do after that? 04.16.46 # cool- only thing you've got wrong is that the archos.mod file has to go into the root directory of the jukebox, not in the .rockbox folder 04.17.03 # then when you turn it on it should use rockbox 04.17.17 # oh I see hold on let me do that then 04.20.08 # ok I put the archos.mod in the root directory 04.20.22 # After I do that how can I use it while it's cahrging? 04.20.50 # when it displays "battery charging..." you just hold down the on key for a bit 04.21.05 # which key? 04.21.59 # ack- think the on key, not sure about the player 04.22.43 # indeed, the On key 04.23.05 # ok I heldthe "on" key and now it activated the HDD and it took me to a screen, "Jukebox 6gb ver: 5.02" and that's it 04.23.21 # uh it should keep going.. no matter what heh 04.23.48 # .... 04.24.57 # it doesn't take me any further then that 04.25.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.25.26 # is the harddrive spinning up all the way? or is it trying over and over? 04.25.59 # well.. I don't know it's the first time using it 04.26.17 # I hear the hardrive its gonig like tick tick tick tick tick 04.26.25 # ok 04.26.35 # then it doesn't have enough power to spin up 04.26.46 # you need to let it charge up longer heh 04.27.15 # ok lol, but I got the DC adaptor 04.27.22 # that just charges 04.27.43 # the HD spinning up still takes more power than the charging circuit provides, so the batteries need to have enough power to do it 04.27.49 # oh ok so I'll leave it cahrge for another 5 hours and then it should start spinning? 04.27.59 # yeah 04.28.06 # ok thanks guys 04.28.09 # but make sure to turn it off so the hd's not sucking the power trying to spin up 04.28.12 # heh 04.29.27 # ummm... Well it's charging now, it says "BATTERY CAHRGING..." 04.29.31 # ok 04.30.55 # Damn, I wantd to get a recorder but I didn't have the money for it, would come in usefull for playnig those ltile games 04.31.03 # little games* 04.44.54 # heh yeah 04.44.55 # oh well 04.50.40 Join Erik [0] (Erik@6.portland-15-20rs.or.dial-access.att.net) 04.53.37 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Back wit anutha one of doz BitchX-rockin' beats!") 04.57.03 Quit Erik () 05.01.35 Quit ClosetPacifist (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.20.21 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 05.59.13 Join secher [0] (secher@adsl-216-158-52-14.cust.oldcity.dca.net) 05.59.13 Quit wethion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.59.25 # ls 05.59.41 # hey folks, is there anyone watching? 05.59.51 # i just came in in time to see you 05.59.52 # mwahahhaha 06.00.15 # Ok, was wethion doing anything for the past 15 minutes or so? 06.00.50 # nobody did anything for a full 40 minutes before you joined 06.01.53 # Ok, some dude tried to DCC me, I told him to bugger off, and suddenly my network connection was flooded. After I shutdown and rebooted, I logged in and my nick was taken. Very off.. 06.01.58 # s/odd/off/ 06.02.15 # hmm 06.02.34 # is that the nick wethion? 06.02.51 # Yes. 06.03.04 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.03.28 # someone was DOSing another host on my subnet via me. ethereal reported well over a thousand packets a minute. 06.03.40 # weird 06.04.02 # Ok, I have to see how they did it, and make sure that nothing was left. Thanks. 06.04.31 Quit secher ("ircII EPIC4-1.1.7 -- Are we there yet?") 06.14.58 Join Naked [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 06.15.01 Join dw|gone_ [0] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 06.16.47 Quit dw|gone (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.25.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.33.06 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 06.33.06 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 07.01.19 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 07.02.23 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EA9890.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.38.29 Nick dw|gone_ is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 07.52.14 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-69.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 07.52.15 Quit adi|home (Client Quit) 07.52.17 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-69.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 07.57.59 Quit edx () 08.09.38 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: the ONLY IRC client on Viagra!") 08.25.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.19.05 Quit ken0_ (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.19.05 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 09.19.05 Quit Schnueff (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.19.05 Quit mbr (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.19.05 Quit MrSnazz (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.19.06 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 09.19.06 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 09.19.06 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 09.19.24 NJoin MrSnazz [0] (~jmc@e-64-35-146-236.empnet.net) 09.20.11 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.237) 09.24.39 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.25.29 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.35.56 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 09.53.47 # *yawn* 09.54.34 # http://bjorn.haxx.se/linuxcstrike.jpg 09.54.50 # How are you Z? Had a nice vacation? 09.54.51 # wine rocks 09.55.04 # yup, very nice 09.55.20 # i love real winters 09.55.41 # So you left Stockholm? :-) 09.56.06 # I got a water boiler this christmas, so now my tea addiction will never end :-) 09.56.12 # hah, yes. but we have a great winter here too. plenty of snow and cold weather 09.57.08 # How do you make all rockbox-related mails go to a separate mailbox? 09.57.17 # procmail 09.57.28 # ah 10.01.51 # anyone know of a good mp3 editor for win32? preferably freeware 10.03.36 # mp3 editor? 10.03.48 # There's some frame editing software which is free 10.03.56 # i don't 10.04.17 # dwihno: yeah, that's what i'm looking for 10.04.23 # hardeep: wait and I'll check 10.09.43 # hardeep: http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~pesch/ (mp3DirectCut is the name) 10.10.02 # cool, thanks 10.22.52 # worked beautifully, thanks again. :) 10.23.56 # No problemo 10.25.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.37.37 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Amount of time you people were funny: -22 minutes 54 seconds") 10.55.54 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-060.dsl1.versanet.de) 11.40.04 Part Zagor 11.40.36 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 11.48.12 # Zagor.. just wanted you to know before i went to sleep 11.48.22 # i oughta slap you for running gnome :) 11.49.16 # afterstep > Zagor 11.49.22 # * adi|home is away: sleep 11.54.10 Join TotMacherr [0] (tot@p5084BCF0.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.54.11 Quit TotMacherr (Remote closed the connection) 11.54.17 Join TotMacherr [0] (tot@p5084BCF0.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.59.45 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.23.29 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.23.50 # how do you guys feel about publishing the names of donors? such as a small frame listing the 5 latest? 12.25.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.26.33 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-060.dsl1.versanet.de) 12.30.46 # Zagor: sounds good. 12.30.59 # Zagor: did you get the $10000 USD donation from me? 12.40.10 # not yet :) 12.51.46 # Zagor: how much has been donated? 12.53.35 # over $300 12.54.59 # and how much is the MMJB? :) 12.55.31 # hehe 12.55.40 # whoa, debian's 'gcc' jumped from 2.95 to 3.2.2 today 12.55.53 # stable? 12.56.05 # neigh 12.56.12 # (just kidding) 12.56.43 # unstable 12.56.52 # ok 12.57.10 # but this means that all packages compiled will use 3.2.2 instead of 2.95 since they compile with 'gcc' unless otherwise noted 12.57.23 # yes 12.57.39 # 3.2 has some rocking good optimisations 12.58.07 # netbsd is jumping from 2.95 to 3.3 "soon" ;) 13.09.38 # * dwihno knows nothing about compilers. 13.09.46 # "As long as they compile the code"... :-) 13.09.53 # -ffast-math 13.09.58 # -funroll-loops 13.38.56 # Hey guyys, I left my JB cahrging alst nigt when I woke up there was a msg on the screen like MD ERROR or HD ERROR I couldn't really see i was still gettting up, waht does this mean? i can't turn it on if I unplug the JB 13.40.26 # When I got up I heard the hardrive trying to spin, but it wouldn't fully spin and it was at that screen 13.43.54 # I need to get this baby up and running so I can get all my tunes in here, I'm able to use it to store stuff at the moment, like my porgrams and stuff but nothing more 13.44.28 # It does work with the power adapter plugged in? 14.00.25 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.01.18 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.09.51 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp17-239.ath.forthnet.gr) 14.25.16 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 14.39.57 Part Zagor 14.40.45 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 14.46.07 # Zagor_: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439118&aid=649549 14.46.16 # i don't suppose you grabbed that track referenced there? 14.46.31 # while i was on vacation, my web host lost all data 14.46.44 # so i'm wondering whether I should upload the problem track again 14.47.57 # i think i have it at home 14.48.10 # but i'm not sure 14.48.12 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 14.48.24 # well, i'll try to ask later to make sure 14.48.54 # since i renamed the track, i don't actually remember which one it was :-/, tho i guess i could easily find another where %ig is null 14.48.55 # no biggie 14.49.02 # ok 14.56.40 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA78B.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.58.25 Quit edx (Client Quit) 14.58.28 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA78B.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.00.55 Nick edx is now known as edx`hw (~edx@pD9EAA78B.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.23.23 Quit TotMacherr () 15.35.05 Part langhaarrocker 15.35.10 # i asked yesterday about the program that fixed the VBR headers, don't remember if it was answered - anyone know offhand? 15.37.17 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.237) 15.41.46 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-060.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.51.25 # wasn't it called vbrfix or some such? 15.53.40 # google seems to think so :) 15.54.48 # thx 15.55.45 Quit ken0 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.02.25 # christ! load average: 23.77, 12.40, 6.30 16.02.37 # Cool :D 16.02.43 # Load average for everyone! 16.02.58 # wow, nice curve 16.03.09 # that's my apartment web server. apparently the whole of sweden stops working at 4pm and starts hitting my server... 16.03.35 # <_2deep4u_> load average: 0.31, 0.26, 0.27 16.03.39 # <_2deep4u_> ;o) 16.04.02 # No unix -> no load ... 16.04.27 # no unix -> no understandy above :) 16.04.36 # <_2deep4u_> unix - still don't understand 16.05.34 # don't want load average, want save peak... 16.10.59 # <_2deep4u_> I just told thi skid to use napster 16.11.06 # <_2deep4u_> and he is searching google for a dl 16.11.45 # napster remains in some usable form? thought it was completely defunct 16.13.51 # <_2deep4u_> it's extinct 16.13.55 # <_2deep4u_> which is why it's funny 16.15.09 # misleading advice is funny? depends on the situation, but usually not 16.15.25 # <_2deep4u_> :) 16.16.41 Quit _2deep4u_ ("Client Exiting") 16.18.56 Join _2deep4u_ [0] (~steven@ool-18be7256.dyn.optonline.net) 16.22.20 Join TotMacherr [0] (tot@p508DBAB5.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.25.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.30.00 Part Zagor 16.30.41 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 16.40.48 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.52.54 Nick TotMacherr is now known as tot|away (tot@p508DBAB5.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.02.54 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 17.22.13 Quit mbr ("leaving") 17.24.37 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 17.29.38 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.51.43 Part Zagor_ 17.53.35 Join strwdle [0] (strwdle@modem-91-56-60-62.vip.uk.com) 17.54.28 # I need some assitance 18.02.46 Quit strwdle ("Practice safe government. Use kingdoms.") 18.11.28 Join strwdle [0] (strwdle@modem-60-49-60-62.vip.uk.com) 18.12.23 # could somebody please give me some advice? 18.14.19 # email might be your better bet, given lack of response here 18.14.30 # well I tried ng's 18.14.40 # but for some reason my posts don't show up 18.15.03 # try the yahoogroup archosjukebox6000, or the rockbox email list 18.15.28 # okedokes 18.15.29 # thanks 18.15.32 Quit strwdle (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.25.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.30.26 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 18.30.42 # morning all 18.46.56 Join mecraw__ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 18.46.56 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.49.05 Part mecraw__ 18.49.24 Nick tot|away is now known as TotMacher (tot@p508DBAB5.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.17.32 Quit meshuga (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.33.43 Join BeanTownTony [0] (~tonyg3@h0010a4d1923a.ne.client2.attbi.com) 19.34.08 # is there a meeting in progress? :) 19.35.18 # ******* I just wanted to give you guys props. I was about 19.35.42 # ******* to take this piece of shit back to the store. Keep it up! 19.36.27 Quit BeanTownTony (Client Quit) 19.58.44 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 20.00.00 Part ken0_ 20.00.33 Join strwdle [0] (strwdle@modem-51-63-60-62.vip.uk.com) 20.09.16 Part strwdle 20.23.16 Quit hardeep ("[BX] If idiots could fly, IRC would be an airport") 20.25.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.51.10 # does anyone know if it's ok for foo@host.bar.com, that host.bar.com does not have an MX record? 20.51.11 Quit EGM92 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.51.23 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 20.51.27 # if host.bar.com is a specific host 20.54.21 # if the MX record doesn't exist... doesn't it just use the standard ip address mapping (A record iirc) 20.55.19 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.236) 20.56.37 # i don't know. that's why i'm asking :-) 20.56.40 # yeah, that's how it works... see: http://lists.megacity.org/pipermail/rfci-discuss/2002-June/000720.html 20.57.08 # ah, goodie. so actually one should first look for an A entry and then an MX entry 20.57.21 # oh, no. mx first. 20.57.26 # thanks 20.57.27 # mx first, nod 20.58.02 # just curious, how did you search to find that. i couldn't convince google to find anything related. 20.58.06 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.03.15 # i think i searched for "no mx record" 21.10.52 # bah. too simple :-) 21.11.01 Part elinenbe 21.16.49 Join ken0 [0] (~marklar2@80.178.34.38) 21.40.33 Quit PsycoXul ("Reconnecting") 21.40.48 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-138.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 21.44.10 Join EGM92 [0] (~CW-EGM92@CPE014340000355.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 21.44.20 # Hey is anyone aronud? 21.45.19 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.47.11 # i suppose i must answer yes, though fear such fact may not be relevant :) 21.52.05 Nick edx`hw is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EAA78B.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.52.24 # lol 21.53.46 # I got a question about mt JB 6000 21.55.10 # I left it charging over night and when I woke up I got a message MD error, or HD ERROR something like that, I couldn't really see it I was still waking up when I unplugged the DC adaptor and tried to press the ON button nothing happened, and when I plugged in the DC again it said bATTERY CHARGING... any specific reason for this? 21.56.34 # * adi|work shrugs 21.56.46 # damn 22.02.53 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.48) 22.02.55 Quit kargatron (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.03.06 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp17-239.ath.forthnet.gr) 22.07.26 Join strwdle [0] (strwdle@62.60.120.127) 22.25.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.26.55 Quit strwdle ("Practice safe government. Use kingdoms.") 22.28.20 # is there anyone who is willing to help me with some questions? if so please PM me 22.31.30 # post the subkject matter - individuals know some stuff, but only Zagor knows all :) 22.33.38 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.34.30 # ah Ic, is he a programmer for Rockbox? 22.36.15 # the main one, but in any case, no one knows to try to help you unless you say what you need help with. 22.36.34 # lol 22.36.34 # k 22.39.39 # Well I got some question about the battery, I've charged it for a long while yesterday from like 6pm to like 7 this morning and when I woke up i looked at it and it gave me a message, when I tried to turn it on, it didn't turn on the green light didn't even flash, how do i know if it's actually charging? it says "BATTERY CAHRGING..." right now, but it the LCD screen green light supposed to be off? or is it supposed to be on when i 22.42.03 # do you have it here now? 22.43.32 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.34.5) 22.47.51 # EGM92: ? 22.53.39 # hmh, pilchie apparently wanted to speak to me four and a half hours away 22.54.00 # browsing logs, eh? ;) 22.54.08 # err, different channel, but yes :) 22.55.16 Quit edx (Excess Flood) 22.55.22 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA78B.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.03.44 Quit edx () 23.03.46 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA78B.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.03.46 Quit ken0 ("zZz") 23.03.49 Quit edx (Remote closed the connection) 23.03.50 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA78B.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.03.51 Quit edx (Remote closed the connection) 23.04.06 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA78B.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.09.01 Nick edx is now known as dummerh0tz (~edx@pD9EAA78B.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.11.30 Nick dummerh0tz is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EAA78B.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.15.00 Join ken0 [0] (~marklar2@80.178.34.5) 23.16.20 Join meshuga [0] (firewall@12-211-38-165.client.attbi.com) 23.19.08 Quit ken0 (Client Quit) 23.22.23 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.34.5) 23.38.29 Quit ken0 ("zZz") 23.40.12 # speaking (list-wise) of this path 'problem', does dos 'dir' have a relative path option? can't find it... 23.46.40 # relative, as in doing a dir relative to the currently selected directory? 23.47.16 # if I were in c:\foo\bar, and wanted a directory of c:\winnt\system32, I could type "dir ..\..\winnt\system32" and get a directory, yes. 23.48.11 # relative path output 23.48.42 # being in foo\bar, and not getting that in outputted path 23.49.40 # sorry, don't understand what you mean. :) 23.51.07 # instead getting of c:\foo\bar\file1, c:\foo\bar\file2, just getting file1, file2 list output 23.51.31 # was in reference to recent list-noise about the problem of wrong paths 23.52.09 # dir /B 23.52.49 # to exclude directories, dir /A-D /B 23.52.58 # yeilds only a list of files 23.53.40 # I tested this with the winnt command prompt, so mileage may varry. 23.54.54 # ah, but dir /S /B always includes full path 23.54.59 # that's what was throwing me 23.55.07 # ah 23.55.20 # is still throwing me, regarding 'dir' 23.55.37 # hmm, not sure of a way around that using dir. 23.55.46 # my original qstn :) 23.55.49 # ;) 23.57.32 # go to the directory. run dir. presto, relative paths 23.58.23 # E:\The Vault\Alternative\Beck>dir /B /S 23.58.23 # dir /B /S 23.58.23 # E:\The Vault\Alternative\Beck\Beck - 05 - Live at W 54th - Debra.mp3 23.58.23 DBUG Enqueued KICK kargatron 23.58.23 # E:\The Vault\Alternative\Beck\Beck - 09 - Live at W 54th - Derelict.mp3 23.58.50 # no see-ey relativey