--- Log for 09.01.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 month and 17 days ago 00.01.29 # it's not a 'real' problem for me, since i only use dir after the fact on the jb, and don't care about moving them around - was just curious, since it's a recommended playlist-making method inthe faq, and people are complaining about abd paths 00.01.42 # abs 00.03.52 # you could use a text editor and to a search-replace for the current path, replace with blank. 00.04.03 # that would yeild a directory output with relative paths. 00.04.05 # of course 00.04.21 # or any number of scripting options :) 00.04.29 # just wondering if i was missing a 'dir' option itself, is all 00.04.37 # ahh 00.04.50 # i don't have any pl problems myself - wondering about efficacy of FAQ advice 00.07.39 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@user-38ldc1g.dialup.mindspring.com) 00.10.21 Quit edx () 00.13.59 Quit Hadaka ("leaving") 00.15.52 # i think maybe this is a question of differences between win versions. 00.16.56 # maybe, i'm just trying locally with win2k 00.17.16 # i'm pretty sure I tested it before adding it to the faq 00.17.59 # I tried it under win2k's cmd.exe shell, and under command and cmd.exe on xp. I don't have 98 handy, so I can't try that. 00.18.08 # well, of course it works fine if you make the playlists on the jb. but it would fail with win2k if you did it before. 00.18.52 Join Naked [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 00.20.21 # I may end up leaving rockbox world :( 00.20.31 # blasphemy! 00.20.32 # left archos on airplane and may end up buying creative 20gb 00.20.45 # :O 00.21.04 # what does the creative 20gb provide? 00.21.05 # why on earth would you do that? seriously? 00.21.29 # better sound quality 00.21.37 # bollocks 00.21.40 # demonic posession is really the only explanation. 00.21.53 # and...gasp...more refined GUI (actually I mean it has queuing abilities) 00.22.24 # have you really compared the JBR and the Creative? I have, JBR won. 00.22.34 # for sound quality, I mean 00.23.01 # Jet8810: if you do buy one, come back and let us know how you think it compares 00.23.12 # indeed 00.23.19 # actually, I've been bothered by extraneous sound with rockbox as well - the archos noise was unbearable 00.23.51 # Naked: I know Linus' unit makes some noise too. mine is completely silent with Rockbox. 00.23.59 # my sister has a noise problem with her unit, but if she lowers the volume below 90%, it disappears 00.24.16 # her unit resets back to 100% for some reason when she resets it, though. 00.24.17 # Zagor: I suspect you do have headphones that are reactive enough? 00.24.18 # yow, when is her volume >90? 00.24.27 # Naked: yes, I compared with the same headphones 00.24.28 # kargatron: its there whenever she turns it on 00.24.40 # I told her to download the latest daily, but havn't heard back yet. 00.25.01 # yea, above 90%= bad sound 00.25.11 # Zagor: what's the sound linus's unit does like? 00.25.12 # and some songs are low 00.25.15 # above 90% = distortion, generally 00.25.24 # above 90% eardrums burst 00.25.24 # i go up to 90 for my lineout config, but never tried higher 00.25.30 # lol 00.25.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.25.36 # well, even 90 is not line level 00.25.37 # Naked: it's a quite smooth noise 00.25.43 # if hooking to stereo 00.25.45 # I am debating it though 00.25.48 # oh gods, I once had 85 as volume when I put headphones on - I never want to experience that again 00.25.48 # as in white noise 00.25.54 # Zagor: for me it's not that 00.25.58 # honestly, how long until queuing is a reality on rockbox? 00.26.04 # Zagor: it's a low thudding sound, about 2 hz 00.26.11 # Naked: !! 00.26.15 # naked: me too, after I had it hooked up to my car's aux.. I had cranked the volume on the unit and forgot :) 00.26.26 # Jet8810 if you compile from cvs, you can include hardeep's queueing patch now 00.26.51 # I cant though hehe 00.26.57 # Zagor: 2 hz frequency between beats ofcourse :) 00.27.06 # have hardeep send you a .ajz :) 00.27.27 # we'll merge his patch soon 00.28.29 # Zagor: I'm considering sticking a cable between the ear plug and line-in on my laptop and recording you some of this noise :) 00.28.40 # and where do I see queue lists zagor? 00.28.56 # Naked: hehe 00.28.59 # how would you access them? 00.29.39 # umm, don't remember 00.30.10 # Jet8810: it's a file located in the .rockbox directory (with my patch at least) 00.30.21 # oh, he's alive! 00.30.29 # sorta, kinda heh 00.30.42 # heh hardeep 00.30.48 # so whats ETA on cvs compilation? 00.31.02 # this could very well determine whether or not I rebuy recorder LOL 00.31.13 # i can give you one right now if you want heh... 00.31.24 # a .ajz? 00.31.25 # but i guess you need the device to make use of it. 00.31.31 # emulator to test it hehe 00.31.31 # yeah 00.31.49 # and it works good though? 00.32.05 # so there is a file in .rockbox you open and then you queue in that or what? 00.32.25 # nah, just hold play for a couple of seconds on the track you want to queue 00.32.31 # and it's queued 00.32.43 # that part can be changed if people don't like it 00.32.43 # and how do you view queue list? 00.32.46 # open file in .rockboix? 00.32.59 # i guess, it's not possible to do from the device right now 00.33.01 # .rockbox even 00.33.11 # and then to delete songs from queue list? 00.33.16 # still needs to be ironed out as well? 00.33.21 # that functionality isn't in... 00.33.40 # hmm 00.33.54 # so I would queue say, 15 songs, then to get rid of all of them and start fresh? 00.34.15 # how would I do that I mean 00.34.21 # restart the playlist (or directory) 00.34.40 # with my current implementation 00.34.45 # so just find a file and hit play without holding? 00.34.48 # deletion and editing will be added 00.34.52 # yeah 00.35.20 # and how long before deletion and editing is added? 00.35.42 # when I or someone else get around to it. :) 00.35.43 # heh wtf man 00.35.52 # trying to figure out which unit to buy now...this made it that much harder hehe...creative os still more refined and better sound quality and extra battery slot, but rockbox smaller and usb 2.0 00.35.57 # what psyco? 00.36.29 # queuing and playlist building/editing etc stuff is probably the next big things to go into rockbox 00.36.43 # you're a little too "now" worried about something thats inevitable 00.36.58 # true 00.37.01 # Jet8810: as I said, creative doesn't really have better sound quality. nor do I believe their software is much of a hoot 00.37.02 # but I am impatient :) 00.37.23 # well I remember it being more user friendly from my 6gb creative days 00.37.49 # which archos did you have? 00.37.56 # recorder 20gb 00.38.06 # is anything happening on all-file shuffling without a huge playlist? I had an idea which would be small to implement, but didn't want to duplicate somebody else's existing efforts... 00.38.18 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.59) 00.38.29 # MrSnazz: it won't be added. all-file shuffle is done with a playlist. 00.38.40 # we'll simply add playlist creation instead 00.38.42 # really boils down to whether want to try something new or stay with old faithful lol 00.38.42 # Zagor: alrighty, I'll just add it to my own copy :) 00.39.10 # MrSnazz: what's your method? random on each dir level? 00.39.17 # Zagor: yeah 00.39.51 # that's what I guessed. that's random, not shuffle. and a bad random at that. and you'll get repeated songs and all kinds of other nasties. 00.40.01 # playlists rock :-) 00.40.13 # I disagree that its a bad random :) 00.40.18 # But thanks for the opinion :) 00.40.27 # so I can make .m3u playlists and they will work right? 00.40.33 # just make em in musicmatch 00.40.44 # of course it is. say you have two dirs: one with 500 songs, and one with 2 songs. those 2 songs will be repeated LOTS more than the 500 songs 00.41.03 # yea 00.41.05 # that's a bad random 00.41.09 # Well duh 00.41.11 # I am staying with archso heh 00.41.19 # I have a way around that issue. 00.41.20 # see much more possiblity with open source then creative and usb 2.0 00.41.23 # you do? 00.41.26 # Yup 00.41.49 # Jet8810: usb2.0 is very nice 00.41.52 # yea 00.41.56 # MrSnazz: how? 00.42.03 # so you are all trying to get a way to random play the entire disk? 00.42.22 # Jet8810: i've been shuffle-playing my entire disk since, oh, june or so 00.42.52 # big playlist heh 00.42.52 # I knew that! :) 00.43.00 # I am new at playlists 00.43.09 # got to go 00.43.10 # bye 00.43.11 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 00.43.15 # my method isn't exactly what you described. It does go directory-by-directory, but during an initial count stage. Once it has the total number of files, it picks a value in that range, then iterates over directories until that file number is reached. 00.43.23 # of course. it's the only way to do true shuffle with perfect resume and the other features we like 00.44.08 # MrSnazz: christ! you don't have a big disk, do you? I have 7600 files on my archos. I'd hate to look up the last ones... :-) 00.44.17 # lol 00.44.27 # I have a 20gb jbr :) 00.44.32 # Its not as slow as it sounds ;) 00.44.47 # why aren't you using a playlist? 00.44.50 # anyway, I was just curious. I can see that you're not open to the idea, so I'm not going to waste any additional time 00.45.36 # zagor: if there's a quick menu option added to create an all-file playlist on the unit, I'd probably use a playlist. 00.46.33 # i still don't get it. how does music end up on your archos? answer: you plug it into your computer and copy the files. why not spend an extra 30 seconds and make a global playlist while it's connected? 00.47.00 # anyway, playlist creation *will* be added, so we can drop the issue :-) 00.50.32 # plus, MrSnazz, there are easy utilities that will make recursive playlists for every dir in one shot, so an extremely easy workaround exists now 00.51.37 # I'm not stupid, I'm aware of how easy it is to create a playlist. I'm merely interested in an alternative. 00.54.00 # it's just your interest that puzzles us - we're not calling you stupid :) 00.54.21 # plus, recursively making recursive playlists in one shot isn't obvious :) 00.55.27 # hmm, when did sourceforce move us from cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net to cvs.sourceforge.net? 00.56.13 # i still use cvs.rockbox.sourceforget.net 00.56.55 # i'm silly. ignore me :) 00.57.34 # btw, i've got a pretty quick fix for that playlist discussion that's been hounding the mailing list the last few days 00.58.10 # the path stuff? 00.58.15 # yeah 00.59.05 # how many lines? ;) 00.59.25 # < 10 heh 00.59.47 # actually, i take that back, > 20 :) 00.59.52 # http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/playlist_badpath.diff 01.00.19 # er < 20 01.00.21 # exactly what I had in mind 01.00.27 # i'll add it 01.00.37 # as soon as the *** cvs server wakes up... 01.00.47 # heh, yeah, it was slow checking out 01.02.13 # weird. from home I can ping cvs.sf.net but not cvs.rockbox*. from work I can ping both! 01.02.34 # it's not like work is the other side of the world or anything... 01.03.12 # i think cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net is just an alias to cvs.sourceforge.net 01.04.23 # yeah, that's what nslookup returns 01.04.24 # yeah, but apparently the round-robin dns has given me different IP 01.04.32 # hmmm, weird 01.06.28 Nick hardeep is now known as hardeep|away (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 01.06.35 # ah, works again 01.10.09 Quit kargatron (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.10.09 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.10.09 Quit Schnueff (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.10.09 Quit y0m (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.12.39 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.12.39 NJoin kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp17-239.ath.forthnet.gr) 01.14.45 NJoin y0m [0] (~y0m@y0m.net) 01.32.33 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 01.37.06 # hey zagor 01.37.25 # http://www.saunalahti.fi/~nakedi/thudding.wav 01.38.30 # heh 01.39.11 # it's amplified a lot of times, so imagine it's thudding and ignore the added white noise :) 01.39.36 # had to put it through the stereo and crank the volume all the way up to hear anything 01.40.06 # strange noise. i wonder what it can be. 01.40.21 # something which happens twice per second ;) 01.40.39 # oh, it repeated more rapidly when I adjusted the volume by holding down up or down 01.40.48 # ! 01.41.23 # or rather, it gets an uneven beat on top of it 01.41.26 # ARGH NOOO 01.41.27 # lemme see 01.41.34 # AIEE 01.41.38 # scrolling makes the sound :) 01.41.48 # if there's nothing scrolling on the screen, no sound :) 01.42.05 # ! 01.42.28 # does the volume level in rockbox make any difference? 01.42.55 # no, mute and 0 sound and still hear the same thing 01.43.12 # oh gods, lemme try some of the demos 01.43.27 # atleast bounce makes no sound 01.43.42 # snow makes very rapid little sound 01.43.54 # oscillograph makes a solid buzz! 01.43.59 # i can force a similar sound if I unplug the headphones a bit so they are not properly grounded 01.44.06 # and cube is relatively lound as well 01.45.01 # hmm 01.45.38 # are you able to plug your archos into your stereo and crank the volume _way_ up? 01.46.03 # yes. although I don't want to try that now, my gf is sleeping... :-) 01.46.34 # oh yes, later on you might see if you have the same thing 01.46.49 # yup 01.47.14 # since - I hardly ever turn the volume over 65 with these headphones - and with the original archos firmware, I couldn't get the volume low enough 01.47.22 # and it's barely audible 01.47.53 # so I would not even imagine hearing it with any other headphones 01.47.54 # ok. what headphones are that? 01.48.37 # 65 is about the level I usually listen to at work, actually. cranking up to 70-72 for the bike ride home. 01.48.57 # koss porta-pro 01.49.09 # ok 01.50.28 # hmmh, perhaps you should make a screen-saver mode for the archos where the display is blanked every time the backlight is turned off :) 01.51.36 # let's see if we hear a sound when the hd spins up and the cpu has to do the bitflipping 01.51.53 # yeah, if people have the same problem as you have that would be useful 01.52.17 # no, no nothing 01.52.21 # so it's only the display 01.53.02 # you don't hear the hd either? 01.53.49 # well the hd makes sound physically, but not over the headphones 01.54.38 # ok 01.57.56 # turning backlight on and off creates a tiny tiny sound, but that's not mattering 01.58.31 # ok well, I guess this is enough finding out for now :) 02.01.23 Quit kargatron ("Suckers!") 02.12.23 # well, time for bed. see you tomorrow. 02.12.24 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 02.13.05 Nick hardeep|away is now known as hardeep (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 02.21.35 Join EGM92 [0] (~CW-EGM92@CPE014340000355.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 02.25.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.46.26 Join elinenbe3 [0] (trilluser@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 02.46.44 # hardeep: any new stuff with the queue function? 02.46.49 Nick elinenbe3 is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 02.47.05 # elinenbe: no, zagor submitted my patch exactly as it was it looks like 02.47.15 # i did change the queue limit to 100 last week, that was included 02.47.25 # hardeep: I was wondering if the were any "interna" changes 02.48.03 # elinenbe: nope, the change was very specific to queueing 02.48.13 # er s/change/patch 02.48.42 # when's somebody gonna do a real and proper playlist building/editing implimentation? 02.50.12 # are you volunteering? :) 02.50.31 # i don't think anyone's working on it at the moment 02.51.07 # seems kinda strange 02.51.28 # hardeep: I heard you were volunteering for recursive playing 02.51.30 # :) 02.51.32 # personally it's one of the big things i've been waiting for in rockbox 02.52.06 # i've been without the ability to make decent playlists since i got this thing 02.53.20 # i never listen to the same playlist twice, archos' firmware is unusably sluggish having to hold a key down on each file to add, and it's directory-add feature fucks up and keeps on adding to the end of the disk... and removing is almost as slow as adding 02.56.49 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@user-38lddor.dialup.mindspring.com) 02.58.06 # hardeep , you alive? 03.04.20 # just about to go but can answer a quick question 03.07.19 # alas, must go 03.07.23 Nick hardeep is now known as hardeep|away (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 03.24.29 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 03.44.11 # Hey does anyone know, known errors for battery recharging? I need to know what some of these errors mean lol 03.44.28 # what errors? 03.46.56 # umm I think it was an "HD ERROR" or "MD ERROR" it was earlie morning didn't get a good look at it, I leeft it overnight recahrging, 03.47.24 # I disconnected it and plugged it back in and I got "BATTERY CHARGING..." 03.47.41 # "HD ERROR" is what i usualy get when the HD can't spin up 03.47.41 # like it wasn';t charged 03.47.53 # yea! it was trynig to spin 03.47.56 # it'll say "battery charging..." every time you plug it in, whether it was charged or not 03.48.08 # ok 03.48.10 # you got a player, right? 03.48.17 # yep 03.48.21 # yeah 03.48.24 # it's charging stuff isn't that smart 03.48.25 # heh 03.48.27 # JB 6000 but with a 20gb hdd 03.48.54 # did you just get it recently? 03.48.58 # yea 03.49.02 # I'm a newb 03.49.14 # how long'd you let it charge initialy before trying it? 03.49.15 # well i boguht it used on ebay and I got a deal on it 03.49.22 # oh i see 03.49.32 # well is it new or old batteries? 03.49.34 # well i tried for like 12hours 03.49.48 # if they're new batteries just giving them a good long charge should be it 03.49.50 # I don't know... it's the original batteries i guess 03.50.12 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 03.50.13 # if they're somebody's old batteries that they've been running for a year or 2 then they probably won't hold a charge very well any more and need replaced 03.50.39 # hey my hdd jsut started to try to spin 03.50.45 # its liek tick tick tick tick tick 03.50.53 # but it says battery chariging on screren 03.50.59 Nick hardeep|away is now known as hardeep (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 03.51.01 # weird 03.51.36 # it's not fully spinning 03.53.01 # I JST UNPLUGGED IT AND PRESSED THE ON BUTTON BUT I DON'T GET ANYTHING? NOT ERVEN THE GREEN LGIHT TURNS ON 03.53.22 # heh 03.53.25 # pressed or held 03.53.35 # HOLD 03.53.46 # turn of the capslock :p 03.53.48 # and uh 03.53.55 # hold the stop button down for a few seconds 03.54.01 # see if that does anything 03.54.08 Join ^_Pro-289 [0] (~hi@adsl-64-172-128-51.dsl.sktn01.pacbell.net) 03.54.24 # no 03.54.46 # nothing? 03.54.49 # no 03.54.55 # it doesn't even stop the HD trynig to spin? 03.55.06 # how long did you hold it for? like 5 seconds? 03.55.17 # i unplugged the dc adaptor 03.55.27 # and i tried to trn it on 03.55.33 # without the dc power 03.55.37 # but it didn't work 03.56.47 # this is really pissing me off 03.57.21 # <^_Pro-289> In one of the feature requests, 619335, someone asks for a time and battery meter in the USB screen. Then they said it was fixed in CVS. But I've used the daily builds and don't see that feature. Is it only for a certain model of jukebox? 03.57.22 # i tried to run it without the DC adaptor, and it wouldn't even turn on not even a screen would flash 03.57.54 # heh 03.58.06 # EGM92: my guess would be batteries 03.58.12 # i'd say to get some new ones and try those 03.58.30 # who would know for sure? 03.58.59 # it's not like buying a set of nimh batteries is a waste of money anyway 03.59.41 # oh ok 03.59.52 # how do i open the JB? 04.00.16 # you don't need to 04.00.25 # the little roundish things on front sides pop out 04.00.53 # there's instructions in the manual and all over the web 04.02.06 # <^_Pro-289> http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/ ?? 04.03.34 # ^_Pro-289: it might be only a recorder feature 04.04.32 # <^_Pro-289> ahh, didn't know what version he had. 04.05.27 # <^_Pro-289> so does anyone still work on fixes for the studio 20? 04.07.07 # ^_Pro-289: for the most part, the firmware is the same for player and recorder and all fixes made are for both 04.07.28 # of course, there are many extra features available for the recorder because of it's lcd screen 04.08.17 # hardeep! 04.08.21 # email me the new ajz please! 04.08.37 # Jet8810: you can get it from the webpage now, zagor submitted all my changes 04.08.41 # haha 04.08.42 # NICE 04.08.44 # alright 04.08.48 # now I just need an archos lol 04.09.48 # <^_Pro-289> well like i said earlier, some posted a usb fix, but I don't see it. maybe it was for the multimedia version only. 04.10.03 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 04.10.24 # we don't support the archos multimedia on rockbox 04.10.33 # only AJB recorder and player 04.10.50 # <^_Pro-289> ok, well, i wonder what happened to that fix then. 04.11.01 # <^_Pro-289> i have a studio 20. 04.11.11 # post a message to the mailing list, maybe something else had to be enabled as well 04.11.51 # <^_Pro-289> ok. i already posted one about the USB pitchfork not displaying, but no one replied. 04.12.28 # the past few weeks have been quiet because everyone's been on vacation... you will probably get a better response now that everyone's back 04.13.45 # <^_Pro-289> maybe. but i noticed when I plug my usb cable in while the power was on, the usb pitchfork doesn't appear. but when i remove the device safely, then unplug the usb cable, the pitchfork then appears, while ti's not connected. 04.16.08 # the status info is only displayed on the recorder if the statusbar is enabled 04.16.52 # as for the pitchfork thing, report a bug 04.17.00 # <^_Pro-289> ok. so there can't be any changes/fixes to the player regarding the usb display screen? 04.17.36 # <^_Pro-289> already did. :) http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439118&aid=660612 04.18.57 # hmmm, what does it show on the second like of the player when the usb cable is connected? 04.19.16 # the first line should be showing "[USB Mode]" 04.20.25 # <^_Pro-289> nothing. it's empty. 04.21.22 # <^_Pro-289> i see a volume indicator at the top which is useless since i can't change the volume anyway. 04.22.43 # <^_Pro-289> yea, all I see is "[USB Mode]" and the battery bar, the backwards C arrow, and the volume level. 04.23.26 # hmmmm, that's really call you can show... what were you looking for? 04.23.42 # there is no clock on the player models so time can't be displayed 04.24.07 # <^_Pro-289> well you asked what i saw on the second line. 04.24.36 # <^_Pro-289> i thought there was supposed to be a usb pitchfork. or maybe a battery percentage indicator. 04.25.10 # i thought you said you are seeing the battery bar? 04.25.18 # <^_Pro-289> Since the battery bar does not work, I can never tell how much life I have left when it's in USB mode and I'm not plugged in. 04.25.19 # and yes, you should see the usb icon as well 04.25.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.26.01 # Ah shit I'ts my batteries, I jsut checked out some stuff does anyone know where I can get Nihm or something like that batteries? I lvie in Canada 04.26.02 # <^_Pro-289> I see the battery bar, but not a battery % as I thought someone might have added in a CVS. 04.26.53 # hmmmm, i think i see a bug... one sec 04.29.06 # ^_Pro-289: do you have your player handy? can you try out an updated firmware for me? 04.29.16 # <^_Pro-289> sure. 04.29.54 # <^_Pro-289> it's not gonna freeze my box will it? ;) 04.29.57 # http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/archos.mod 04.30.04 # shouldn't. :) 04.30.09 # let me know if this fixes the display problem 04.30.17 # with usb cable plugged in 04.30.53 # <^_Pro-289> while the power is on, then plug cable in? 04.31.09 # yeah, the bug you were reporting 04.31.32 # <^_Pro-289> ok 04.32.36 # <^_Pro-289> yes. pitchfork is now there. 04.32.49 # battery display still bogus? 04.33.00 # <^_Pro-289> let me check. 04.33.16 # Hey Hardeep, do you know the average pricnig of a NiMH 1.2v battery? 04.33.23 # <^_Pro-289> pitchfork still stays after cable is unplugged. 04.33.51 # EGM92: haven't a clue. 04.34.11 # EGM92: if you're in canada, try the radioshack site, they should carry the batteries 04.34.14 # <^_Pro-289> batterybar is now animated (charging). 04.34.42 # oh ok 04.34.49 # ^_Pro-289: so everything is correct except usb pitchform not disappearing? 04.35.03 # <^_Pro-289> yea. 04.35.39 # okay, gimme a min, i know what the problem is 04.35.47 # <^_Pro-289> ok. 04.37.53 # okay, i updated the archos.mod, same location 04.37.59 # could you try this one please? 04.38.07 # <^_Pro-289> 0k. 04.40.18 # <^_Pro-289> alright. it's fixed.. 04.41.05 # <^_Pro-289> you're a genius. :) 04.41.18 # heh, not quite 04.41.19 # Hardeep you program firm ire for JB? 04.41.31 # firmware* 04.41.54 # EGM92: yes, i'm a developer on the rockbox project 04.42.28 # oh cool, 04.42.54 # <^_Pro-289> so is there a way to get a battery % on that USB screen? 04.43.26 # ^_Pro-289: hmmm, you mean instead of the icon? 04.43.58 # ^_Pro-289: as you can tell, I'm fairly unfamiliar with the player display.... is there any other place where you get a battery percentage? 04.43.59 # <^_Pro-289> well, and the icon. cause the icon is such a small area, probably hard to put text there. 04.44.15 # <^_Pro-289> yea, the menu->Info. 04.44.36 # <^_Pro-289> shows "% h m" 04.44.43 # Hey have you been abl to calculate the ammount of time left in the batteries? and put it next to the meter? 04.45.30 # <^_Pro-289> The info menu even shows it on the correct (second) line. :) 04.46.30 # ^_Pro-289: make a feature request for it... you can at least find out if other people are interested in that 04.47.46 # <^_Pro-289> 0k. I think it'd make a nice request. As now I have to unplug it, then check my battery % (since sometimes the bar could be at 0 and still have a lot of time left), then plug it back in. 04.58.25 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.110) 04.58.26 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.09.09 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Check out the sexy BitchX pr0n at http://127.0.0.1/bx-pron.html") 05.37.09 # <^_Pro-289> i know you're not here right now. but thanks, hardeep, for fixing the bugs. 05.37.12 Part ^_Pro-289 06.06.38 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 06.07.39 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA78B.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.19.23 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.110) 06.19.23 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.25.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.08.45 Quit edx () 08.25.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.42.48 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 09.16.30 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-018-111.dsl1.versanet.de) 09.17.51 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.18.13 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.32.45 # hardeep: as you may have seen, I removed the extra delay when queueing files. was there a reason you addeed that? just avoiding mistakes or? 09.35.03 # i was just worried about a song queuing when a user wanted to start a new dirplay 09.35.17 # but it looks like that's not a problem, even without the delay 09.36.11 # How do you use the new queing stuff? 09.36.17 # And is file writing solid now? 09.36.43 # dwihno: just hold on to play on a track you want to queue 09.37.32 # and file writing is very solid, i haven't seen a problem in a while 09.39.20 # Hmm, I've read a lot of bug reports regarding recording + file writing 09.39.24 # but they might be old aswell 09.40.21 # dwihno: nowadays the only recording problem is the mp3 data corruption we get sometimes 09.43.32 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@62.4.7.1) 09.45.11 # Zagor: That's nice though :-) 09.45.16 # yup 09.46.15 # Do you know if anyone has started to write a "on-the-fly" playlist generator 09.46.16 # ? 09.47.34 # bagder talked about doing it before christmas. i don't know if he ever started. 09.48.35 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.48.42 # good morning! 09.48.45 # Good morning! 09.48.49 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 09.48.49 # * dwihno hands bob some fika 09.49.14 # bobTHC: you're responsible for the french translation, right? 09.49.18 # yep 09.49.34 # some update? 09.49.45 # could you handle the other languages too? 09.49.54 # yep 09.50.06 # checking patches and merging them if everything seems ok 09.50.49 # with pleasure 09.50.54 # excellent 09.51.28 # but i'm not multilanguage talker so for syntax error i cant detect it 09.51.31 # :) 09.51.45 # :-) 09.51.48 # C'est bien! 09.52.08 # no, just check if a patch changes old data. in that case, post a question to the list asking for opinions about the best translation 09.52.43 # oki like i try to do for french.... 09.53.02 # yes 09.54.34 # some patch are waiting? 09.56.21 # yes, several. look in the patch tracker. 09.56.55 # oki 10.05.05 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Hanson uses BitchX. Mommy, can we dress like boys again?") 10.11.21 # moin 10.11.32 # boing 10.11.33 # hi 10.11.40 # boom 10.11.46 # schack 10.12.00 # (or is it tchack?) 10.12.06 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 10.12.09 # hm 10.12.11 # hi all 10.12.19 # maybe tschack 10.12.34 # and happy new year :) 10.12.37 # Kraftwerk - Boing Bumm Tschak 10.12.42 # :) 10.12.44 # ahh 10.13.35 # hi quelsaruk! 10.25.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.28.55 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.06.54 Quit Schnueff ("leaving") 11.07.20 Join Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 11.20.13 Quit pyvasene ("Client Exiting") 11.30.43 # What is the mAh on the stock batteries? 11.31.24 # the ones that come with the archos? 1500 mAh 11.32.01 # mkay 11.32.04 # I want better batteries :) 11.32.13 # me too 11.32.16 # :) 11.32.34 # dwihno: you are from france, don't you? 11.32.48 # aren't 11.32.50 # :) 11.32.54 # non, je suis pour la suede 11.32.55 # or something 11.33.18 # ahhh 11.33.27 # :) 11.34.10 # I want a bigger disk 11.36.48 # and a 8 MB ram expansion? 11.36.49 # ;) 11.38.17 # hm 11.38.19 # not really :) 11.38.40 # But it would be nice. I had insane ideas about supporting several types of audio codec 11.38.43 # codecs 11.39.04 # software decoding, store to buffer, re-encode, send to MAS :-) 11.41.52 # i think winter makes some effect on your brain :) 11.42.29 # overclock is ever better when the weather is cold ;) 11.44.24 # I think my idea is pretty good :) 11.44.28 # What do you think, Zagor? 11.44.40 # I better get a second opinion from Linus 12.08.59 # dwihno: software decoding will take ages. you're better off converting on your pc. 12.10.33 Join EXIR [0] (~aasd@e198009.upc-e.chello.nl) 12.12.56 # i have a stuppide question how do u selct the lang on a archos studio 20 with rockbox OS? 12.13.15 # EXIR: simply play the right language file in .rockbox 12.13.29 # wicht file? 12.13.33 # we will add a menu interface soon 12.13.33 # the .lang 12.13.36 # yes 12.13.38 # no, the .lng 12.13.42 # k 12.13.46 # tu 12.14.22 Nick EXIR is now known as exir^F00D (~aasd@e198009.upc-e.chello.nl) 12.14.25 # zagor lng file was generated evry hour? 12.14.53 # Zagor: yeah, I guess converting on the PC isn't that bad. I was thinking about recording. Do you think it's possible to record without compression? 12.15.20 # yes. by the way, you should run binlang on the files before committing them. some of them were missing strings 12.15.43 # dwihno: only if someone writes dsp code for it 12.15.46 # that reminds me i have to update spanish lang :) 12.15.53 # sorry 12.16.00 # no worries 12.16.16 # Zagor: There should be a way to tell the DSP to give uncompressed audio. 12.17.07 # that would be nice, yes 12.17.11 # but there isn't 12.17.30 # We need the top secret docs! Have you talked to the frenchies? :) 12.18.06 # i don't even think the frenchies have such docs. 12.18.39 # Okay. So what have you discussed with them this far? 12.18.55 # i sure they have!!! 12.19.38 # with the number of dsp micronas sell to archos they can have it! 12.22.37 # Yes. 12.22.51 # Zagor only needs to ask politely and we might get some info :) 12.23.41 # :) not so easy but with a little bit of diplomacy and wit good intention from archos perhaps.... 12.25.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.27.39 # i think even if archos wanted to, they are not allowed do share the information. micronas guards it very carefully. 12.27.56 # also, we don't just need docs. we also need tools. 12.29.22 # tools? 12.31.00 # compiler 12.31.42 # For the MAS?! 12.31.43 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.31.59 # yes. it's a processor. it executes code. 12.32.12 # unless you feel like hacking binary machine code, you need a compiler 12.32.23 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.110) 12.36.09 # * dwihno hacks machine code for breakfast 12.36.17 # :) 12.36.24 # gogogog! 12.36.35 # With his "EDGE"-knife. I love it. Cuts through everything! 12.36.56 # bye all to much work! 12.36.59 Part bobTHC 12.38.36 # how do u open the .rockbox directory 12.38.37 # ? 12.38.41 Nick exir^F00D is now known as EXIR (~aasd@e198009.upc-e.chello.nl) 12.39.11 # EXIR: open the .rockbox dir where? 12.39.15 # in the archos? 12.39.19 # in the player 12.39.20 # yes 12.39.42 # because i want to open the lang file 12.39.55 # do i have to place it in the main or the .rockbox dir 12.40.26 # the same asdoesnt' matter right now 12.40.31 # ok 12.40.32 # tu 12.40.33 Quit EXIR (" http://neverstrike.student.utwente.nl and http://www.whitestar.nl/dpg") 12.40.53 # fast one 12.40.57 # actually it does matter. only the one in .rockbox is used next boot 12.41.21 # too slow :) 12.41.55 # yes? 12.42.00 # ummm 12.42.20 # interesting :) 12.42.32 # you learn something new everyday 12.43.24 # Uwe was successful with his alarm mod, cool! 12.47.03 # great 12.47.38 # yeah 12.48.04 # quelsaruk: yes only .rockbox is stored as config. that way we don't have to store the path, only the filename 13.11.27 # ajam 13.21.06 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-020.dsl1.versanet.de) 13.35.47 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@titan.contactor.se) 13.40.25 # zagor:? 13.44.46 # * matsl is away: I'm busy 13.45.16 # here 14.00.33 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.17.17 Join werty1st [0] (~werty1st@c-180-157-42.ma.dial.de.ignite.net) 14.17.19 # hello 14.17.46 # time to go home for lunch 14.17.50 # cu later 14.17.58 Part quelsaruk (""Eve's Avatar - Avatar's Eve"") 14.21.52 Quit werty1st () 14.23.06 Part Zagor 14.23.39 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 14.25.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.44.43 # Zagor_: ? 14.44.49 # * matsl is back (gone 01:00:03) 14.45.40 # * matsl is away: I'm busy 14.49.42 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-296.ath.forthnet.gr) 14.57.27 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 14.57.52 # hey ho 14.59.56 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-018-055.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.00.37 # Hey ho! 15.01.19 # baggie! 15.01.26 # Bagder: the rumours talk about a certain person writing on-the-fly playlist generation. Do you know of such a thing? ;) 15.01.55 # hey, I only whine and complain, I don't actually do anything ;-P 15.01.56 # any new rumours about t-shirts? 15.02.47 # * Bagder points to adi|home 15.03.51 # probably adj|home points to adj|work ... 15.04.08 # * dwihno points to the sky... It's a bird! No, it's an airplane! No, it's Zagor, and look! He has the MAS specs :D 15.04.26 # stop dreaming :) 15.06.12 # (I couldn't read anything about flying in the MAS specs) 15.06.34 # Heh 15.21.42 Quit TotMacher () 15.21.54 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DBAB5.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.27.35 Quit TotMacher () 15.27.46 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DBAB5.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.28.40 Quit TotMacher (Client Quit) 15.28.45 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508DBAB5.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.36.20 Part elinenbe 15.41.14 # * Bagder heard rumours about matsl's and Kjell's upcoming player improvements today 15.41.28 # seems to be progressing 15.42.00 # nice 15.42.05 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 15.42.24 # A lot of rumours! 15.42.27 # MAS MAS MAS! 15.42.55 # Do you know why we should talk to Gunde Svan? 15.43.05 # Since he's the original DAL-MAS ;D 15.43.10 # *roflmao* 15.43.33 # * Bagder looks at dwihno 15.44.02 # * matsl is back (gone 00:58:22) 15.44.09 # Zagor: ? 15.44.09 # * dwihno looks at matsl 15.44.36 # * langhaarrocker looks stupid 15.47.05 # i'm here 15.48.06 # yo 15.48.17 # Zagor: about the battery meter in USB-mode. I can't see it on the player. 15.48.31 # ok 15.48.51 # tried latest build? hardeep made some changes to that 15.50.15 # Zagor: Kjer and I are ready with native character support for player. Just need some testing before checkin. 15.51.17 # cool! 15.53.05 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 16.22.47 Join TotMacherr [0] (tot@p508D8CF2.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.25.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.33.16 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA8B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.41.10 Quit TotMacher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.41.28 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.51.50 Part Zagor 16.52.32 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 16.53.55 # any JBSynch users reading? 16.56.41 Quit y0m (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.02.41 # Zagor_: heard anything from Magic Linus lately? 17.03.42 # no. he's still on the west coast. 17.04.06 # yeah 17.05.16 # we really should kick 2.0 out the door soon 17.05.39 # yes, but we should probably add some more features for the recording 17.05.52 # such as? 17.05.59 # pause 17.06.18 # doesn't sound very difficult :) 17.06.25 # and possibly start-a-new-file 17.06.43 # and perhaps make the recording rock-solid 17.06.57 # I don't think we'll get it better now 17.07.04 # dwihno: we're not even sure that's possible. it could be a MAS bug. 17.07.18 # Zagor_: The dalmas? :) 17.07.32 # yup. gunde-bugg 17.07.42 # :-D 17.08.04 # Kom igen, sjätte nykkkeln! 17.09.28 # Dethärgårinte.Dagsågåhem. 17.09.30 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 17.09.37 # Have a nice evening people. 17.09.44 # bye dw 17.12.36 Join mecraw__ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.13.33 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 17.13.39 # hi 17.14.03 # hey 17.17.03 # time to go. see you! 17.17.05 Part Zagor_ 17.36.35 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.36.35 Quit mecraw__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.46.25 Quit laotan ("Disconnecting") 17.46.53 Join laotan [0] (~jesse@markham.openflows.org) 17.49.55 Join strwdle [0] (strwdle@62.60.118.77) 18.15.02 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 18.15.14 # is anyone here who knows about fail-over routers? 18.16.15 Join GreyShadow [0] (Snak@adsl-209-204-188-244.sonic.net) 18.23.38 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 18.24.54 Quit TotMacherr () 18.25.09 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@p508D8CF2.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.25.56 Join Zagor [0] (bjst@217.215.170.33) 18.25.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.29.01 # what's up with all these duplicated posts to the mailing list? 18.29.44 # good question 18.29.55 # they have different subjects, so it's the author doing it manually 18.30.20 # the author is a fuck. 18.30.55 # laugh, several had the same subject... but i just noticed the text is changing slightly 18.31.21 # okay -- what can you tell me about a linux virtual server? ;) 18.33.46 # not a thing... very cool idea though 18.34.41 # I know. I am looking to build a web server for my company that is a fail over server.... 2 cloned machines with seperate IPs behind a router, and if 1 goes down, the other will kick in. 18.36.23 # time to run away, see ya 18.36.25 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 18.38.12 # elinenbe: linux-ha.org 18.39.11 # Zagor: thanks 18.40.18 # Zagor: have you any experience using this? 18.40.38 # just a little. we run a failover linux cluster at work 18.41.06 # Zagor: can I ask how it is set up (hardware-wise?) 18.42.08 # Zagor: I need a report in by 3pm (it is almost 1pm here) about how this is going to work. 18.42.20 # two identical boxes with a serial cable between them for heartbeat. one is master, the other is standby. if the standby notices the heartbeats are gone, it takes over. 18.42.40 # are they cloned (like do they have the same IP address?) 18.42.43 # disk mirroring over normal network 18.42.51 # okay. 18.43.25 # they have one ip each, and then share a virtual IP which is the one you use from clients 18.43.29 Quit kargatron ("Suckers!") 18.43.38 # sounds great! 18.43.56 # one more question. 18.44.00 # how is this virtual IP assigned? 18.44.38 # i'm not sure 18.44.51 # I have to figure that out. 18.45.04 # you mush have some sort of router dealing with the virtual IP. 18.45.32 # not really, we just tell the nearest router that the IP has a new ARP 18.45.48 Quit TotMacher () 18.46.37 # <_2deep4u_> wtf 18.46.46 # <_2deep4u_> i didnt understand what the f you guys just said 18.46.55 # <_2deep4u_> and I like networks :- 18.47.03 # Zagor, and that happens automatically? 18.47.26 # no the standby machine needs to do that as part of the fail-over 18.47.36 # i don't remember exactly how it's done 18.47.38 # Zagor: so the heartbeat program does this to the router, and the router just keeps on chugging? 18.47.57 # ...the heartbeat program on the NEW server 18.47.59 # yes 18.48.08 # <_2deep4u_> can you create this at home ? 18.48.21 # well not actually the heartbeat program, but the new server does it 18.48.28 # _2deep4u_: sure you can 18.49.24 # the heartbeat program just checks the heartbeat and screams "HE'S DEAD" if it's missing :-) 18.49.34 # <_2deep4u_> heartbeat program is called? 18.51.16 # it's called HeartBeat. http://linux-ha.org/download/GettingStarted.html 18.52.09 # dinner time 18.52.12 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|away (bjst@217.215.170.33) 19.00.38 # dinner's time? 19.00.57 # ouch... how will i survive in sweden? 19.11.54 Quit strwdle (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.15.31 # quelsaruk: I think you are nice. 19.15.36 # quelsaruk: like gravy 19.15.47 # gravy? 19.16.59 # i don't understand 19.26.51 Join schuepf [0] (~chatzilla@pD9EE2319.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.34.36 Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@217.215.170.33) 19.34.47 # Zagor: finally you are back! 19.34.55 # Zagor: I have been missing you! 19.34.59 # :-) 19.35.20 # Zagor: how is the gameboy emulator for rockbox coming? 19.35.48 # gameboy?? 19.35.52 # hehe 19.36.08 # why not gameboyu advance ? ;) 19.36.22 # are there plans to support runtime-loadable modules? 19.36.22 # Zagor: I am having problems running Wario 4. I will talk to you about it in private IM :) 19.36.27 # elinenbe: i though you would fix grayscales first? :-) 19.38.15 # Zagor: I can get 8 grayscales with 2 more framebuffers, but when I try to higher than that, there is quite some flicker 19.38.32 # seriously? 19.38.48 # Zagor: also, it slows down to about 30 fps when I am playing a 320kbps mp3s and it looks horrendous. 19.38.57 # :) 19.39.14 # ...so as to be able to have more games, without running out of codespace... 19.39.32 # ...we need a plugin system 19.39.32 # Zagor: I have been messing around with grayscale quite a bit, and I will have something nice to show in a little. 19.39.41 # elinenbe: cool 19.39.49 # Zagor: however, I have not been running mp3s at the same time. 19.40.14 # elinenbe: ok 19.40.23 # it will still be interesting 19.43.27 # really interesting 19.54.50 Quit hardeep ("BitchX for president.") 20.21.05 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 20.22.01 # hi hardeep 20.22.13 # heya 20.22.51 # you where the one who made trickle charge ? 20.23.17 # no, that was uwe 20.26.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.26.10 # ahh 20.26.42 # i have quite bad memory 20.34.51 Join Holo12 [0] (~holo@63.115.87.189) 20.35.49 # Hi guys... anyone have the problem of directories being named wrong? I saw the irc logs touching on this subject, but no resolution.. My directory named E-M now is the name of a song instead.. 20.36.09 # do i just have to deal with this until the next version? 20.36.18 # or is there something I can do? 20.38.01 # umm 20.38.03 # don't know 20.38.19 # does anyone else have this problem? 20.39.16 # Holo12: have you tried a daily build? I can't say I'm aware of any such problem 20.39.39 # You may also want to report it as a bug (see link on web page) 20.40.02 # hmm... i'll try... basically, it gives the name of the last file in that directory 20.42.55 # nope.. latest build still giving me that error 20.57.27 # hardeep: so how is recursive playing going? :) 21.00.55 Join yold [0] (~yold@paisiblement.org) 21.01.04 # hi ! 21.02.36 # hi yold 21.03.20 # my archos is dead :( 21.04.11 # dead? 21.04.14 # why? how? 21.04.38 Quit Holo12 () 21.04.40 # yesterday it was running fine 21.05.25 # and this morning the DD is up but nothing at screen 21.05.41 # i can't access ti the archos with usb 21.05.58 # DD? what's that? 21.06.08 # display? 21.06.15 # dirsk drive 21.06.18 # disk drive 21.06.32 # ok 21.06.33 # HD 21.06.36 # ;) 21.06.39 # when i power on my archosm the disk is initilizing but notjing at screen 21.06.54 # sorry for my poor english ;) 21.06.56 # sometimes i get the same problem 21.07.07 # i just turn it off 21.07.10 # wait 5 minutes 21.07.15 # and turn it on again 21.07.40 # i have tried all the day to power on the archos but it wasn't a success :( 21.08.53 # are you sure you have batteries? 21.09.09 # yes of course 21.09.30 # try to connect it to the power supply and turn it on 21.10.04 # i have no idea of what happens to your jukebox.. really extrange 21.10.09 # nothing on the screen when i do that 21.10.27 # Zagor: we need your help 21.10.32 # normally i have to see "battery charging..." 21.10.39 # yes... 21.10.47 # you should see something 21.10.56 # nothing :( 21.28.06 # bye 21.28.07 Quit EGM92 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.28.11 # time to go home 21.28.25 # bye 21.28.35 # yold, sorry for not helping you 21.28.35 # :( 21.29.34 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 21.29.36 # it doesn't matter, thank you : 21.31.55 Join [-UK-]BadAiming [0] (~flanz@pD9E7C378.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.32.18 # <[-UK-]BadAiming> wow 21.32.22 # <[-UK-]BadAiming> i am back 21.34.31 Nick hardeep is now known as hardeep|away (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 21.37.50 # bye ... 21.37.52 # :) 21.37.54 # have fun 21.37.55 Part elinenbe 21.38.06 # yold: sounds like a hardware problem 21.39.30 # Zagor: i think so 21.39.39 # i have dissecting my archos 21.39.56 # and trying trying to lcoate the pb 21.40.02 # does the backlight turn on? 21.40.30 # sometimes 21.42.26 # :( 21.42.32 Join hmm [0] (~uhu@APlessis-Bouchard-107-1-4-190.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.42.40 # whoa 21.42.47 # definitely hardware problem 21.43.32 # yes but my archos is 1 year and 2 month years old 21.43.54 Join strwdle [0] (strwdle@m173-mp1.cvx1-b.bri.dial.ntli.net) 21.44.04 # could anyone give me some advice? 21.45.48 # maybe 21.46.03 Nick [-UK-]BadAiming is now known as chris1 (~flanz@pD9E7C378.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.46.15 # my old nick 21.46.21 # do you know much about installing? 21.46.42 # what you like to install ? 21.46.47 # because I lost the software that came with the jukebox (don't ask how) and the drivers etc from the archos site don't work 21.47.00 # OS Windows ? 21.47.13 # 2k 21.47.22 # I have this driver cd in front of my 21.47.31 # it recognises that the jukbox is there 21.47.42 # but it doesn't appear as my g:\ drive 21.48.19 # have you a friend to check you rockbox 21.48.37 # friend? 21.48.45 # what do you mean check it? 21.48.48 # the driver from the archos site still works fine 21.49.16 # well there are two zip files, which is which? 21.49.24 # it's a 60000 21.49.28 # WOW 21.49.35 # i have the Recorder 20G 21.49.57 # the 6000 is very old 21.50.15 # I know...lol 21.50.35 # anyway, I need to access the HDD because I have the old 'part.pls chck HD' error 21.50.37 # whats called the root directory on the installation page plz ? 21.50.47 # The Archos Windows driver a OEM from 3party 21.50.47 # and using atapwd doesn't work 21.50.49 Nick hmm is now known as newbee (~uhu@APlessis-Bouchard-107-1-4-190.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.51.15 # the driver is from the usb bride chip maker 21.51.43 # on the archos site there is a driver zip file and a pre-installer 21.51.48 # what does what/ 21.52.37 # newbee: it's the top dir. i.e. g:\ if g: is your archos disk 21.53.11 # yeah it doesn't come up, I've tried them 21.53.17 # F:\ is my dvd rom drive 21.53.23 # so g:\ would be the dir 21.53.32 # RESTART 21.54.35 # oh I have, many times! 21.55.02 # I was thinking, could it not be recognising the hd because of the partion error? 21.55.08 # I mean the hd works on my laptop 21.56.04 # please go to the archos.com website and use the Support 21.56.19 # yeah I think I will 21.56.28 # i thing that rockbox is the bad place for the W2K querys 21.56.50 # why? 21.57.05 # 80 % here use Linux 21.57.22 # aaah 21.57.35 # the real devloper :) 21.57.39 # I should have guessed 21.57.53 # well I'm not a developer, I'm a musician 21.57.55 # lol 21.58.16 # lol to 21.58.24 # where can i change language on the recorder plz ? 21.58.38 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-590.ath.forthnet.gr) 21.58.41 # i have to buy a external MIC for the Recorder 21.58.53 # RFM 21.59.00 # newbee: browse into the .rockbox dir and press PLAY on the language of your choice 21.59.12 # chris1: the archos mic is actually pretty good. 21.59.36 # does PAUSE take up any more power than STOPped? i.e. will charging take slightly longer while PAUSEd? (an academic question, really) 21.59.44 # Yes, but i have all the time the HD Drive on my records 22.00.00 # kargatron: no, it's the same 22.00.13 # chris1: ? 22.00.29 # the noice from the hard disk 22.00.48 # you know this fakt 22.00.57 # yes, but I mean the external microphone: http://www.archos.com/lang=en/products/prw_100878.html 22.01.17 # no hd sound with that 22.01.48 # oh nice i test ist let go online shoping *smile* 22.01.50 # oo, that looks nice 22.02.17 Part yold ("Client Exiting") 22.02.24 # Zagor: did you have time to test the background noise on a stereo set yet? 22.02.24 # thats weird, i accidently only copied the en/products/prw_100878.html part and middle-click'd it in phoenix and it took me to M$ media player download page 22.02.38 # Naked: ah, no. i'll test right away. 22.03.19 # zagor its normal that i cant see the bar where it was written "back" or the hour befor ? 22.04.03 # newbee: i don't follow you. which bar? where? 22.04.24 # with the 3 button...f1 f2 f3 on the notice 22.05.36 # zagor i love you way to build the update for the rockbox webpage. C precompiler rocks for static templates 22.06.43 # chris1: yeah, i like it 22.07.04 # newbee: ah, yes that's normal. rockbox doesn't have that bar 22.07.28 # ok and i havnt found how change language on the player .. 22.07.35 Nick hardeep|away is now known as hardeep (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 22.07.47 # newbee: please read the manual. it actually explains all these things. 22.08.41 # u say me .rockbox but .. 22.08.41 # Naked: I have the noise too, if I crank my amp all the way up and put my ear to the loudspeakers 22.09.29 # i work on a stock markt company , that use for the same Results java 22.10.12 # newbee: go into menu->general->file view->show files and select "all" to see the .rockbox directory 22.10.43 # ok 22.12.16 Quit strwdle ("Practice safe government. Use kingdoms.") 22.14.02 # write me flanz@gmx.net 22.14.18 Quit chris1 () 22.17.37 # zagor for all the new files i put them on the .rockbox too ? for new games new fonts etc 22.19.49 # mostly yes 22.19.59 # ok i try 22.21.39 # and the .ch8 games ? 22.21.52 # they are not supported yet 22.22.16 # oh ... 22.23.09 # ah finally i can see my divx list ... 22.23.13 Join mecraw__ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 22.23.21 # pretty good thing that ur firmwar 22.24.50 # yeah, we like to think so :-) 22.25.22 # but i dont understand the princip of the oscilloscop.. 22.25.40 # Zagor: okay - goodie - then we know it happens from the display drawing - luckily that can easily be fixed with a screensaver :) 22.25.52 # yes 22.26.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.26.09 # unfortunately, I also heard a whine from the disk. that's harder to fix. 22.26.24 # but that whine is also unhearable in my headphones 22.27.38 # Zagor: harddisk? when it was spinning up or reading or when? 22.27.48 # newbee: the oscilloscope is only for recorders 22.27.55 # Naked: spinup 22.27.59 # i have one 22.28.05 # a whine increasing in pitch 22.28.29 # newbee: oh, ok. sorry I though you had player. the oscilloscope is just a demo, for fun. 22.28.40 Quit GreyShadow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.28.46 # ok =) 22.29.23 # Zagor: hmm, ok 22.31.39 # oh...my playlist loaded so fast its so gooood 22.31.51 # hehe 22.32.38 # and i can reduce the volume to the mute... 22.32.49 # really good thx for this firmwar 22.32.50 # well, your playlist loaded REASONABLY. :) so it no longer sucks ass 22.33.20 # reserve your enthusiasm for resume :) 22.33.29 # hehe 22.35.36 # i cant browse my file ? i mean that befor i can see other file on the directory when i was playing song 22.37.17 # press ON 22.37.24 # (and read the manual) 22.38.17 # hey im here to dont read this fuckin manual its so boring i prefere ask like an idiot its more entertaining ... 22.38.45 # * MrSnazz raises an eyebrow 22.39.00 # :-) 22.39.06 # somebody should invent an entertaining way to present a manual 22.39.11 # so that people'd be inclined to actualy read it 22.39.23 # some singing, dancing and naked skin 22.39.24 # true.. 22.39.34 # hehe 22.39.38 # oo, naked! 22.39.46 # hehe 22.40.02 # Perhaps, host it on Anglefire and have lots of rotating animated GIFs, MIDI music, and horribly colored backgrounds. Then it'd be kewl! :) 22.40.12 # ok thx for information and firmware sorry to disturb you guys bye =) 22.40.24 Quit newbee ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.65 :: www.XLhost.de )") 22.40.39 # MrSnazz: nah, that'd just be annoying 22.40.43 # MrSnazz: then nobody'd read it 22.41.24 # i know 22.41.33 # embed the manual into a game within rockbox 22.41.34 # has anybody seen any analysis of this realizer plugin people keep yapping about? it has the smell of hoax all over it 22.41.48 # realizer plugin? 22.41.56 Join Bryant [0] (twogluon@AC8E4989.ipt.aol.com) 22.42.00 # https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=439121&aid=665327&group_id=44306 22.42.25 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.43.10 # "restoring the frequencies lost by the MP3 compression" 22.43.12 # yeah, right 22.43.13 # oh puuh 22.43.33 # i just want a good debunking url to reject it with 22.43.42 # hoax or not, i doubt the archos could support it 22.44.08 # you mean, you can't delete data from a file, and then bring the data back later? :O 22.44.12 # oh, it can't. i just want to stamp out this kind of snake-oil nonsense 22.44.53 # it's probably just some gimicky post-processing that doesn't actualy do anything but makes it sound different so everybody thinks it's "higher quality" 22.45.00 # lol 22.45.27 # thankfully I can't hear what others claim to hear in MP3 tracks. My roommate swears that he can hear the distortion, even at 192. 22.45.40 # probably the WMA way: increase sound level 2dB 22.45.43 # MrSnazz: i can in some stuff 22.45.55 # MrSnazz: it depends on the content 22.45.58 # Realizer's three processing stages make the bass richer and deeper, add sparkle and vibrance to the high end and create a wider, more three dimensional stereo impression. 22.46.10 # bwaha 22.46.21 # heh 22.46.22 # PsycoXul: yeah, but not in all music :) 22.46.39 # MrSnazz: no, some kinds of music sound fine at 128 heh 22.46.43 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 22.47.06 # MrSnazz: i've noticed even at 160 and 192 i can hear some artifacts in some of bjork's stuff 22.47.20 # weird 22.47.33 # my eardrums have gone out and grown back a few times, perhaps I'm deaf to some things 22.47.46 # it's not all that noticable 22.48.08 # but like certain ways she says things with s sounds 22.48.30 # mp3 seems to not to handle that type of sound too well 22.48.59 # hence vbr 22.49.29 # yeah i wish i had nice lame --alt-preset standard rips of all the bjork i have heh 22.49.33 # the times I notice distortion the most are on tracks recorded from poor sources. Like b-side tape casettes. Pretty bad on some of that. Garbage in, garbage out I suppose 22.53.37 # well, according to listening tests with a bunch of audiophiles, with 256kbit, the CD couldn't separated anymore - so I'm not sure what Realizer could add to that - make it sound 'better' than cd by faking stuff? 22.54.39 # sounds like the same mumbo jumbo that my graphic equalizer does, for "richer sound". I don't think they ought to be claiming that it restores lost data. 22.55.13 # it adds bass and treble. just like a loudness button. 22.55.16 # mp3 loses data that's unaudible - what good will restoring it do? ;) 22.55.31 # or tries to lose, ofcourse and yadda yadda 22.56.24 Join breaker [0] (~mail@Aca60.pppool.de) 22.56.36 Nick mecraw_ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 22.58.08 # Zagor? 22.58.12 # I've this problem with turning off the backlight before power_off(). Maybe you can help me? 22.58.22 # breaker: what is the problem? 22.58.33 # I have the alarm option in the menu. 22.58.43 # It sets the alarm, the backlight_off(),.. 22.58.49 # then power_off(). 22.59.06 # But somehow the backlight goes off very short and sometimes goes on again. 22.59.26 # hmm 22.59.27 # Does another thread do this? 23.00.30 # I saw in button.c a backlight_on(), but this should only be called when one presses a key. And I make a pause before setting backlight_off(). 23.01.27 # I think you can see how it behaves when you add a backlight_off() in some menu function. 23.02.21 # I have also some lcd_puts and lcd_update in the shutdown-procedure. 23.03.38 # Look at http://www.uwe-freese.de/alarm_menu.c, there's the code. 23.04.20 Quit mecraw__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.05.00 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 23.10.56 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m131.net81-67-41.noos.fr) 23.11.29 # i think no other thread does this 23.11.37 # hellllllllllllo 23.11.54 # unfortunately, i'm not too at home with the rtc and backlight. linus has done all that work. 23.12.01 # hi bod :-) 23.12.20 # rockbox still rocksszz0zrrz 23.12.28 # that's good to hear 23.13.09 # :)) 23.16.57 # Zagor: linus seems not to be active the last days. Maybe on holiday or something. 23.17.28 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 23.18.17 # yes, he is still away. he'll be back this weekend 23.19.08 # Ah, ok. I'll try to find the problem myself. I hope i've found it then. 23.20.39 # Do you know where I can find the code which shuts off the backlight after x sec.? 23.21.01 # umm, i'll look 23.21.38 # Maybe it switches it on every second or so in a loop if it should be on? 23.22.43 # it's in backlight_tick(), called from button_tick() 23.22.46 Quit mecraw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.23.06 # and button_tick() is a separate thread 23.23.52 Join EGM92 [0] (~CW-EGM92@CPE014340000355.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 23.24.04 Quit schuepf ("ChatZilla 0.8.11 [Mozilla rv:1.2.1/20021130]") 23.24.14 # Hey everyone 23.24.25 # hi 23.25.07 # hey i got a question about my archos jukebox 6000 and ROCKBOX 23.25.33 # It won't allow me to use my playlists? or sometimes it won't play all of the songs in my list why is that? 23.27.15 Quit _seb_ ("Who knows what tomorrow will bring... maybe sunshine, maybe rain.") 23.27.34 Join _seb_ [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 23.28.12 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 23.28.22 # how did you make the playlists 23.30.01 # the one the play some of the songs i made with music match the others are with winamp 23.30.39 # musicmatch includes absolute paths and are problematic 23.31.07 # winamp should be fine if you saved them in a relative location 23.31.12 Quit Bryant () 23.31.20 # Zagor: Thanks. I'll try to find the problem. Bye. 23.31.24 # simplest answer to to look with text editor - see if the paths are bad or not 23.31.32 # the playlists that do not play all the songs: are they always the same songs that do not play? 23.31.32 # breaker: ok. bye. 23.31.37 Quit breaker () 23.32.09 # no, it's always random song that won't pla from te lists 23.32.25 # so sometimes it plays, and somtimes not ?? 23.37.03 # the absolute pathname problem has been fixed in the latest daily build... try it out and see if that fixes your problem 23.37.14 # oh ok 23.37.19 # ummm, hold on 23.37.48 # how do I install CVS ? 23.38.04 # you don't need cvs, just go to the daily build section from the main page 23.38.06 # just grab latest daily build.ajz file 23.38.15 # a single file dl is all 23.38.19 # but, if you want cvs, i would recommend downloading cygwin (assuming you're using a win32 machine) 23.38.40 # .mod file, for the 6000? 23.39.15 # no :( 23.40.02 # umm is this the lastest build? rockbox-daily-20030109.tar 23.40.21 # that's the latest source code 23.40.43 # er, the source code for the latest daily build 23.41.06 # get archos20030109.mod 23.41.21 # ..I'm compltely lost lol ,I'm a newb to JB stuff, I'm much more used to my old Lyra 23.41.29 # k 23.48.27 # alright it fixed it thanks Hardeep 23.48.41 # :) 23.49.30 # Man I wish I had a multimedia unit so I COULD play all of my movies lol 23.49.47 # or view all of my pictures, how much do they retail for anyone know 23.50.30 Join y0m [0] (~y0m@y0m.net) 23.50.37 # just because the daily build fixed it doesn't mean we believe that random songs were being skipped... :-) was shuffle on? 23.50.39 # dont know :) www.archos.com 23.51.07 # no they were not on shuffle 23.51.19 # I have it on repeat 23.51.27 # random bugs are generally quite rare 23.51.48 # Ic 23.52.05 # has there been any fixes to buffering or hd read error handling recently in rockbox btw? not that they've been bad in the past, but there are still some issues 23.52.43 # is it possible to cahnge the buff size? from 1.79mb to something much higher? 23.53.00 # EGM92: there is no free memory 23.53.02 # with great difficulty and chancy hardware mods 23.53.02 # EGM92: there is only 2 MB ram 23.53.10 # oh 23.53.27 # is it a special kind of ram? 23.53.36 # no, normal EDO ram 23.55.54 # Alright 23.56.48 # I think I'll have to compose a longish mail on rockbox stuff when I get the time 23.57.52 # Naked: any specific topic?