--- Log for 15.01.103 Server: anthony.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 day and 2 hours ago 00.00.01 # hi all 00.00.16 # is there some people working on the bookmark here 00.01.33 # s 00.02.26 Quit bmidy (Client Quit) 00.28.39 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m131.net81-67-41.noos.fr) 00.28.55 Join CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] [0] (~awdyf@200.202.226.234) 00.29.43 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 00.29.43 DBUG Enqueued KICK CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] 00.29.43 # * CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] 10está away5 00.30.09 # hi 00.30.23 # hello 00.30.23 # well 00.30.29 # finally 00.30.39 # I *still* have reboot problems 00.30.41 # :((((( 00.32.47 # i'M STILL HAVING LSOT OF PROBLEMS WITH the new daily builds, a lot of bugs too many to report, like the volume level suddenly drops from like 100% to 70% 00.33.13 # and like the hdd spins but it doesn't go anywhere jsut stays on an freezes 00.34.44 # :( 00.35.05 # like the sound changes from Stero to Mono 00.35.11 # !! ! 00.35.36 # I'LL BE LISTening to my beats and the it sc rews up 00.35.39 # I hate it! 00.35.46 # I think 1.4 is the msot stable version 00.36.37 # i dont have problems with the biuld i use (one from 2 or 3 weeks ago) 00.36.46 # except my unit randomly reboots;) 00.36.54 # but i think it's an hardware problem 00.36.56 # lol same here!! 00.37.13 # playnig a song and bam jsut turns off i look at th screen and it says power off 00.37.27 # for me, it never happens when the batteries are fully charged 00.38.19 # mine happens when pwoer is around 80% 00.39.11 # damn I hope I don't have that problem 00.39.18 # I had that with my old classic chd500 00.39.22 # thing was a piece of crap 00.39.26 # EGM92: rockbox never displays "power off" 00.40.09 Join Alucard_ [0] (~CW-EGM92@CPE014340000355.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 00.40.36 # same here 00.40.48 # it happens when estimated says 10 hours 00.40.59 # then reboots and estimated says 7 hours :) 00.41.08 # ...where can i see the time? 00.41.24 # BoD[]: same what? 00.42.00 # zagor : same symptom that egm92 says (around 80%) 00.42.12 # BoD[]: it says "power off" ? 00.42.17 # nono :)) 00.42.28 # it randomly reboots 00.42.35 # when i press a key... 00.42.42 # i posted a desc in the list 00.42.47 # have you fixed the battery springs? 00.42.56 # i said I changed the batteries and the problem did not occur anymore 00.43.08 # but I was too optimistic, as the problem DOES occur 00.43.09 Quit EGM92 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.43.16 # it's egm 00.43.16 # something happened 00.43.16 # yep i FIXED MY SPRINGS 00.43.21 Nick Alucard_ is now known as EGM92 (~CW-EGM92@CPE014340000355.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 00.44.13 # fixed ? 00.44.19 # the springs ? 00.44.31 # it was th cause of my player not even turning out, then I moved thm too it to radio shack got it all fixed 00.44.55 # mm 00.45.05 # i think i'll return my unit to archos 00.45.14 # i bought it via their website 00.45.34 # haha, I want to get thier multi media player!! but im poor lol 00.45.45 # well me i want an ipod :)) 00.46.00 # tried one this weekend for the first time 00.46.06 # it's small 00.46.13 # and pretty :) 00.46.27 # lol 00.46.33 # i hate Ipods!! 00.46.45 # really ? why 00.46.50 # i got the drivers that allows it to work on Xp but it wouldn't work!! 00.47.15 # I paid like 900$CAD for a 100gb player, couldn't get a refund 00.47.32 # you mean 10gb 00.47.59 # or 00.48.01 # heh, $900CDN is rather obscene for an mp3 player 00.48.02 # oppps sorry I mean 60gb from Ebay 00.48.17 # ...or ??? :) 00.48.30 # anywayyyyyyyyy 00.48.35 # or? 00.48.40 # or nothing 00.48.54 # I got some stuff for my ibook, cd-rw drive 00.49.03 # with it 00.49.04 # by the way it's %bt on your wps file 00.49.22 # (to see the estimated battery time left) 00.50.15 # and now i go to bed 00.50.24 Join mecraw__ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 00.50.25 # kkk 00.50.27 # night 00.50.31 # see you 00.51.37 Quit BoD[] ("}{}{}{}") 00.51.57 Quit CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] (" »¡« Scøøp Script 2003 »!« pegue o seu! Grátis em ") 01.07.41 Join mecraw___ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 01.08.21 Quit mecraw_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.09.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.11.30 Nick mecraw___ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 01.26.07 Quit mecraw__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.30.05 # bed time 01.30.05 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 01.44.30 Quit mecraw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.37.34 Quit adi|work (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 02.44.07 Quit EGM92 ("(i was using polaris) version:[2.05c] webpage:[http://www.polaris-central.com]") 03.09.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.16.45 Join EGM92 [0] (~CW-EGM92@CPE014340000355.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 03.16.56 # Hey anyone around? 03.22.41 # EGM92: yeah 03.23.07 # EGM92: but it's gonna have to be quick... just about to leave 03.26.13 Nick hardeep is now known as hardeep|away (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 03.55.48 Join Goku_4658 [0] (xtreme@h51.220.102.166.ip.alltel.net) 03.55.59 # n e 1 here? 03.56.45 # hmm... 03.57.37 # hmm 03.58.02 # you a mod? 03.59.57 # eeh? 04.00.49 # i need some1 who knows the insides of these damn things, hardware 04.00.57 # just got home (don't have work until 10h) 04.01.44 # you meen the archos, I known basicly how it works.. 04.01.58 # u know the hardware though 04.02.41 # my + button is not responding unless i smash it with my thumbnail..... 04.02.52 # its annoying me 04.02.57 # in short I say the risc come to life ('80) and lose.... 04.03.54 # hmm, so i guess i'll need a sodier iron or such? 04.03.59 # I have a lot of digital stuff here, still outpreforming intel/ppc 04.05.09 # and yes I recoverd 1 of my multia's form the heatdeath.. 04.05.52 # soldering smd stuff without proper tools 04.06.00 # hmm, that coulda helped when my pc fried (i built it) 04.06.21 # damn athlons, the heatsync was rejecting the heat 04.06.34 # chis 04.07.45 # ehh chips brake, will need replacement in the alpha case just a signalconverter 3v<=>5v (cmos<=>ttl) 04.08.25 # hmm... 04.09.46 # a 74abt623 in my case.. 04.10.31 # simple thing.. 04.11.31 # but i seen the basic schematic's of archos 04.12.22 # hmm. I don;t know if the chip is dead or what, but when i push it, it doesn't click unless i really smash it. 04.12.46 # i have to really push it hard to get it to register my button-push 04.13.31 # ehh sounds like mechanical problem. 04.14.09 # the pad wiggles a bit too. Every other button works like a charm 04.14.41 # that damn + button is scraped to the ugly brown color, and i've only had it less than a month 04.14.54 # switch probely damaged.. 04.15.15 # it clicks, it just takes quite a bit of force 04.15.51 # Maybe io should just get the warranty-thingee done, i just dodn't want to hafta transfer everything again :( 04.15.55 # force will only make things worse.. 04.16.17 # damn usb 1.1. 04.17.28 # my rec20 can do 2.0 but my lap & other comp's can't 04.18.12 # ricII: are you working on a playslist editor? 04.18.51 # not yet, checking queuing, implementing resume.. 04.19.23 # thanks for the help. I'm gonna go and box this thing. Oh, i noticed the lcd on my studio 10 has a rec icon on the lcd... Just a bit of info.. I'm gunna go away now, peace yall. 04.19.34 # ricII: what do you mean checking queueing? 04.19.51 # ricII: resume is already implemented. 04.19.58 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 6 seconds at the last flood 04.19.58 # * Goku_4658 is away, Repackaging my jukebox for warranty replacement... Peace., (log\off pager\off) 04.19.58 Nick Goku_4658 is now known as Gokus_Away (xtreme@h51.220.102.166.ip.alltel.net) 04.20.02 # elinenbe: new pl-code works completely differnt. 04.20.37 Nick Gokus_Away is now known as Goku_4658 (xtreme@h51.220.102.166.ip.alltel.net) 04.20.37 # * Goku_4658 is back after 39s 04.20.38 # ricII: what exactly have you canged? 04.20.48 # nomore play from rsam 04.20.52 # ram 04.21.06 # ricII: so, there will be unlimited directories. 04.21.30 # queuing is an insert which gets deleted when it's played... 04.21.50 # ricII: sounds nice. 04.22.00 # elinenbe, i hope you don't mind me setting up a URL forward to the site, i can never remember the address. 04.22.01 # ricII: how far are you from completion? 04.22.28 # Goku_4658: no problem, but Zagor and Bagder are in charge of the site. 04.22.29 # don't have much time to work on it this week :( 04.23.00 # ric: do you have anything thrat works at all? 04.23.10 # ricII: from a user endpoint? 04.23.21 # ok, can you please notify them, i don't want to have them mad at me for not notifying them. 04.23.38 # Goku_4658: I think they will check out the logs. 04.23.40 # without resume, queing & insert works now .. 04.23.45 # ok, thx 04.24.03 # * Goku_4658 is away, #Rockbox rox!, (log\off pager\off) 04.24.03 Nick Goku_4658 is now known as Gokus_Away (xtreme@h51.220.102.166.ip.alltel.net) 04.24.21 # ricII: what exactly are the benfits of the new code? 04.24.49 # been using my code for 4 days and my archos didn't crash :) 04.25.26 # much less ram use, simplified, more posibilties. 04.25.29 # ricII: well, my recorder does not crash either. 04.25.34 # ricII: nice. 04.25.49 # ricII: would I notice much of a difference from the current CVS? 04.26.18 # apart from playlist.c no.. 04.27.09 # ricII: could I check it out? 04.27.24 # what it does is making dynamic playlists (using a patchfile) 04.27.47 # ricII: could you DCC it here? I would love to look at the code. 04.28.28 # elinenbe: there are is no interface to use the new functionalily... 04.28.42 # ricII: ahhh. okay 04.29.30 # first I want to have the old stuff working.. lot of hools do to do new things 04.29.48 # ricII: one thing that I would love to see is recursive directory playing. 04.30.15 # set the mode to recursive, and shuffle and play a song in the root dir, and then you have full device shuffle 04.30.20 # it's part of the dynamic pl idea... 04.30.32 # sounds great 04.30.45 # I look forward to seeing it. 04.31.03 # ultamaly you create pl on the fly.. 04.31.14 # ricII: that sounds awesome. 04.31.26 # being able to save them, deleted songs etc. 04.31.36 # ricII: add files, directory, or playlist, and be able to edit them on the fly. 04.32.21 # edit: well ehh save what you did.. 04.32.44 # it would be great to be able to cut/paste/crop/etc. 04.32.55 # an editor is a sepparate app 04.33.33 # i'd like to be able to select multiple files to add/remove 04.33.50 # but insert after/before song playing, at the end, delete etc sould all be posible 04.34.09 # that would be awesome... it could drop you into a "playlist editor" 04.34.09 # like the shift/ctrl+click type of selection in a GUI file browser sorta deal 04.34.30 # modifing what in 'ram' and be able to save it.. 04.36.04 # the interface is done mostly in tree.c.. 04.36.56 # but adding/queying dir's is on high on my list.. 04.37.29 # ricII: what about adding/queuing playlists? 04.37.58 # same thing a dir is a list of files, just like a m3u... 04.39.12 # ricII: stop wasting your time chatting. It will be nice to see this once you are done! 04.39.33 # well it needs a lot of thinking.. 04.39.58 # like what is a user only want's to queue forever... 04.40.23 Nick hardeep|away is now known as hardeep (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 04.40.29 # s/is/if 04.40.52 # yes, hardeep I see y'r prob, 04.41.02 # ricII: hardeep did the current queue code. 04.41.05 # ricII: ? 04.41.23 # elinenbe: I known 04.41.54 # ricII: i was thinking of queueing playlists.... if we're appending playlists (the more common case i believe)... maybe we should just save the playlist name instead of all tracks in the playlist 04.42.16 # hardeep growing file, user which only uses the queue functionality... 04.42.19 # ricII: and then just load the tracks once we reach the playlist 04.42.49 # ricII: oh... heh. I never bothered dealing with it either.... but yeah, it could be a problem 04.43.17 # true mods will still be posible due to the patching nature .. 04.43.43 # ricII: we could compress the patch file once we reach the end... 04.43.54 # ricII: maybe compress isn't the right word 04.44.21 # ricII: move all the insertions to the beginning of the playlist 04.44.39 # ricII: and then update the indices 04.44.50 # I like to call it rewrite (because of it seqencesial nature..) 04.45.08 # ricII: works for me. :) 04.46.00 # ricII: it could be a little expensive though... considering we're dealing with a ~2.5M file by that time 04.46.15 # yeah, but e 04.46.28 # we could put the limit lower.. 04.46.57 # ricII: right... we just need to allow a reasonable number of insertions 04.48.03 # with fixed length record we could easly resuse queing positions... 04.48.19 # ricII: oh, i thought you weren't doing fixed length 04.48.29 # ricII: 'cause yeah, with fixed length it's pretty easy 04.48.30 # not conserdering resume here.. 04.48.40 # no... 04.48.42 # ricII: hmmm, resume, ick 04.49.12 # just thinking outloud.. 04.50.31 # besides of my 'condensed format' the code start to look pretty clean (a least I think) 04.51.19 # ricII: cool 04.52.30 # but I have to deliver code end this month, and I'm stealing time for rockbox... 04.53.00 # ricII: blah, rockbox is more important than work!! =) 04.53.14 # so feel free to do stuff with it.. 04.53.45 # i feel it has potential.. 04.54.13 # ricII: if you think you're going to be swamped at work... maybe post it to the mailing list... 04.54.32 # ricII: it definitely has potential :) 04.54.39 # ricII: I couldn't agree more! 04.54.48 # resume is replay patches until current song.. 04.55.41 # ricII: btw, what are all the options we're going to have now? queue/insert track/playlist after current song, queue/insert track/playlist at end of playlist 04.55.53 # delete.. 04.56.03 # ricII: delete track/playlist 04.56.12 # ricII: hmmmm, anything else? 04.56.19 # save ... 04.56.24 # ricII: ah right 04.56.35 # just thinking of the UI hehe 04.56.57 # it troubles me on the player :) 04.57.55 # ricII: i guess we should decide on the most common requests and make them hot keys... everything else menu driven? 04.58.05 # I just want to provide hooks which can be implement in tree.c later.. 04.59.06 # thinking of 2 'play' key which can be configured in general settings orso.. 04.59.28 # that makes sense 05.00.32 # ofcourse on the rec we have some kind of shift... 05.01.54 # ah well, will be very cool once it's done. 05.01.55 # standard binding would be like, queue/add recursive.. 05.03.15 # but thinking out the gui, needs a lot more attention... 05.03.43 # yep 05.03.58 # time to get some food 05.04.14 Quit hardeep ("[BX] I came, I saw, I ran away screaming") 05.04.45 # time to sleep, otherwise I won't be able todo anything on work... 05.07.59 # Hey one question where the hell are all you guys from? Europe? 05.08.21 # New York, USA 05.09.31 # lol ok, but what about everyone else? 05.09.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.13.39 Join satino [0] (~martin@0x50c4991f.adsl-fixed.tele.dk) 05.17.26 Nick Gokus_Away is now known as Goku_4658 (xtreme@h51.220.102.166.ip.alltel.net) 05.17.26 # * Goku_4658 is back after 53m 23s 05.18.10 # YAY! 05.20.24 # * Goku_4658 is away, gone for the night, see yall l8r, nite peepz, (log\off pager\off) 05.20.24 Nick Goku_4658 is now known as Gokus_Away (xtreme@h51.220.102.166.ip.alltel.net) 05.26.49 Quit EGM92 ("(i was using polaris) version:[2.05c] webpage:[http://www.polaris-central.com]") 05.46.25 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EABD95.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.26.18 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.36.31 Join Goku_4658 [0] (xtreme@h59.93.102.166.ip.alltel.net) 06.50.29 Quit edx () 06.51.57 # * Goku_4658 is away, auto-away after 15 minutes, (log\off pager\off) 06.59.20 Quit Gokus_Away (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07.10.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.05.38 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 08.28.42 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.47.39 Quit y0m ("leaving") 08.47.51 Join y0m [0] (~y0m@y0m.net) 08.54.21 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Whyismyspacebarnotworking?!") 08.59.50 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@ip133.c214.blk2.bel.nwlink.com) 09.00.45 Quit hardeep (Client Quit) 09.03.44 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-115.dsl1.versanet.de) 09.04.07 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 09.04.10 # morning 09.04.15 # yawn. 09.04.39 # just another ten minutes, please. 09.04.54 # No way! :-) 09.04.55 # ok, I give you five ;-) 09.05.04 # * dwihno pours some ice cold water on the rocker 09.05.25 # * langhaarrocker shivers and falls out of bed 09.05.32 # That was no 5 minutes!! 09.05.41 # 5 reaaaaaly fast ones 09.06.13 # * langhaarrocker throws a wet pillow at dwihno 09.07.51 # * dwihno dodges 09.07.53 # HAHA! :-D 09.08.34 # Watch out! I've still have got the wet blanket! 09.09.49 # Oh no! :-O 09.10.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.16.08 # waking up from sleep mode draws energy. 09.16.08 # * langhaarrocker charges with breakfast (no trickle charge) 09.17.28 # :( coffe below low water mark! 09.20.52 # Haha 09.20.54 # you're funn 09.20.54 # y 09.38.10 Quit satino (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.42.57 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 09.43.10 # morning mats 09.43.22 # morning 09.43.51 # weirdly, I can use the sf cvs from two machines on Contactor, but from home it works fine 09.43.55 # can't 09.44.20 # ssh hangs. 09.44.34 # cvs [update aborted]: connect to cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net(66.35.250.207):2401 failed: Connection refused 09.45.01 # ok. not the same problem as we saw yesterday. 09.45.26 # this is also why there's no CVS activity on the site and no changes in the daily build of today 09.45.42 # Aha. So it must be solved then! 09.46.02 # yeah, we want this solved 09.46.50 # Strange. I haven't got a clue what it can be. 09.47.50 # The problem we saw yesterday was that ssh never terminated (i think) which made cvs to hang efter the operation. 09.50.14 # I'll investigate 09.52.11 # Bagder: I just did an update from linux3. Worked as a sharm. 09.52.54 # weirdo 09.53.28 # Bagder: You'll investigate further. I have some things to do at home before I can concentrate on rockbox ;-) 09.54.09 Nick matsl is now known as matsl_busy (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 09.55.50 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.56.02 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.58.35 # Is there some kind of software that can store info into the id3 tags from cddb? Maybe guessing which cd was ripped by investigating the song lengths? 09.58.54 # there are 09.59.03 # but I know no names 09.59.08 # :( 09.59.32 # mainly because I've heard people tell me about their windows progs, and I don't care much about names then 10.00.14 # Always those linux freaks! :) 10.00.43 # heh 10.01.12 # i know you can get the cddb id from the mp3's 10.01.26 # cause it's only calculated by the # of tracks and their lengths like you said 10.01.49 # as for windows software that'll do it.. no clue 10.01.58 # i think abcde could probably do it 10.02.21 # but it's a perl script that depends on several commandline utils 10.02.28 # or no 10.02.33 # it's a bash script actualy 10.02.34 # heh 10.02.44 # I have cygwin :) 10.02.54 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.34.48) 10.03.05 # it's so unnecessarily convoluted, i was thinking it was perl :p 10.03.26 Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.08.26 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@207.202.214.133) 10.08.36 # ah 10.08.44 # anonymous updates don't work 10.08.50 # normal ssh-based ones do 10.10.02 Quit hardeep (Client Quit) 10.18.57 # hehe, kpit (makers of GNUSH) has been working with Rockbox 10.19.05 # "We are pleased to inform you that our latest version has fixed the bug which 10.19.05 # caused problems when compiling Rockbox!" 10.19.21 # * Bagder smiles 10.32.38 # :-) Haha 10.33.32 # "pserver-based access and ViewCVS currently offline" 10.33.39 # boo 10.33.46 # yeah 10.33.50 # btw, do you like the new viewcvs blimp on the web page? 10.33.56 # i think it's cute 10.34.16 # it looks nice, but the amount of graphics on the left starts looking like a xmas tree ;-) 10.34.23 # hehe, yeah 10.34.49 # ROCKBOX ROCKS THE BOX! :) 10.35.20 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.42.41 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-088.dsl1.versanet.de) 10.48.15 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.50.45 Quit Bagder (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.50.45 NSplit anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.50.45 Quit elinenbe (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.50.45 Quit Schnueff (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.50.45 Quit Zagor (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.50.45 Quit dwihno (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.50.45 Quit laotan (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.50.45 Quit meshuga (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.50.45 Quit Hadaka (anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.52.28 NHeal anthony.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.52.28 NJoin Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.52.28 NJoin Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 10.52.28 NJoin elinenbe [0] (M-SLR@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 10.52.28 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 10.52.28 NJoin dwihno [0] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 10.52.28 NJoin meshuga [0] (firewall@12-211-38-165.client.attbi.com) 10.52.28 NJoin laotan [0] (~jesse@markham.openflows.org) 10.52.28 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 10.52.35 Join lhrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-132.dsl1.versanet.de) 10.53.08 Nick lhrocker is now known as langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-016-132.dsl1.versanet.de) 11.02.50 Join lhrocker_ [0] (~Phil@212.204.17.255) 11.03.54 Quit lhrocker_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.05.32 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.10.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.29.01 Join lhrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-017-222.dsl1.versanet.de) 11.29.16 Nick lhrocker is now known as langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-017-222.dsl1.versanet.de) 12.08.32 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.32) 12.26.56 Nick matsl_busy is now known as matsl (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 12.45.34 # mbrgll... "waiting for inoficio's lock in /cvsroot/rockbox/apps/recorder" 12.46.06 # for 5 minutes now 12.46.25 # hmmmm, is it hard to build the cross compiler? 12.46.29 # the beauty of cvs 12.46.31 # I'mm feeling zesty 12.46.36 # s0be: nope, its very easy 12.46.45 # does it work with 3.2.1? 12.46.52 # dunno 12.47.16 # try! 12.47.19 # I'll be the test case. Is there a walkthrough on their site? 12.47.25 # yes.. hang on 12.47.37 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/cross-gcc.html 12.47.51 # already there... had the site bookmarked 12.48.12 # :D 12.48.19 # ok, I'll see if 3.2.1 will build rockbox 12.50.44 # can someone reach out and grab inoficio by something tender? 12.50.44 # I have code to commit, dammit 12.54.57 # is it worth throwing in the GDB support? 12.55.11 # do _I_ need to be able to compile with debugging? 12.55.45 # no, no need for that 12.55.50 # You need to do a hardware mod anyhow to get that 12.56.08 # well, I'll note that for the future then 12.56.36 # 15 minutes... 12.56.48 # Until ... ? 12.57.31 # more like since... 12.57.53 # ah 12.58.02 # Zagor: doens't have submit cvs permission right now 12.58.26 # Anyone here good at mA, voltages and such? 12.58.41 # depends on what you're working with 12.58.50 # DC and op amps type stuff I'm fine 12.58.54 # AC I'm not so good with 13.00.29 # okay 13.00.41 # The thing I was curious about was the thread in the list regarding car adapters 13.00.55 # converting 12v to 9v (1000mA) 13.00.57 # oh, I don't follow the list 13.01.10 # and the 1000mA, what's that really? is it what is produced or the max load? 13.01.13 # * dwihno sucks at this 13.01.36 # 1000mA is 1A is just the amount of current (or load) that the circuit would draw 13.01.59 # you'd prolly want a voltage regulator desigfned to provide 1.5A at 9v 13.02.27 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.04.33 # erhm 13.04.48 # that means, the device attached will get 1A? 13.04.53 # wants 1A 13.05.01 # is designed to disipate/use 1A 13.05.44 # means that at 9 volts the circuit has an impedence of 9ohms 13.06.16 # So that would be too much since the archos wants 600mA? 13.06.40 # is there a link to the thread so I can read what they mean? 13.07.35 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-01/0587.shtml 13.07.40 # because, in general, a device will only pull as much as it wants. If a supply CAN supply 1A and it's hooked up to a device that only take 500mA, 500mA will be disipated as heat 13.07.40 # I guess 13.08.35 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-01/0587.shtml 13.09.08 # AHHHH 13.09.25 # are you the one asking that question or just curious on the topic? 13.10.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.11.51 # bbl 13.11.53 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 13.15.46 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 13.15.52 # hi 13.16.07 # elinenbe: how is the gameboy emulator going? :) 13.16.39 # i'm like a little child that wants a toy 13.18.59 # s0be: I'm just analphabetic on the entire voltage stuff :-) I was curious 13.19.41 # ok, you know V = I * R right? 13.21.43 # R and V are generally set for a device. Most of the active components in the device require a certain voltage, and everything has a set resistance. Due to that equation, the circuit will draw a certain current 13.23.10 # Using another equation P = I^2 * R, you can figure out the power a circuit will need to dissipate. You can also use the first equation I stated to solve that for I^2/R, which form is useful depends on what you have 13.26.36 # Oka 13.26.37 # y 13.26.46 # that help at all? 13.26.49 # a bit 13.27.07 # good good 13.29.41 # when building a cross compiler, is it fine to end on an error about the C compiler being unable to build executables? 13.30.19 # end building the cross compiler with that error? 13.30.31 # error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. 13.31.16 # i mean, building the cross compiler worx fine, but compiling the programme with it doesnt? 13.31.42 # 'the programme' = some programme 13.31.44 # well, that was after I did make 13.32.09 # trying to build the cross compiler 13.32.09 # uh never mind 13.32.14 # ok that sounds bad 13.32.39 # oh well, I was buing a guinea pig... I was attempting to build a gcc 3.2.1 sh1 compiler 13.34.29 # (also, binutils 2.13 or whatever the latest is 13.42.12 Part Zagor 13.42.44 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 13.43.11 # umm 13.43.26 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 13.44.03 # can anyone get current cvs?? i can't and want to know if it's just me or everyone 13.44.35 # Zagor was talknig bout that erlier 13.44.54 # mbrgll... "waiting for inoficio's lock in /cvsroot/rockbox/apps/recorder" 13.45.16 # although I can't get into cvs.sourceforge.net right now 13.47.24 # Zagor: I (we) got a plan for rockbox-mode.el. 13.48.29 Join lhrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-189.dsl1.versanet.de) 13.48.41 Nick lhrocker is now known as langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-016-189.dsl1.versanet.de) 13.49.01 # matsl: good 13.49.29 # Zagor: Wanna know here or should I drop a mail to the list? 13.49.42 # mail the list. i'm kind of busy right now. 13.49.55 # ok 13.51.56 Nick seb-sleep is now known as seb-school (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.19.24 # Zagor, Hadaka, Schnueff: rockbox-mode.el suggestion is in the mail. Must go. bbl, cu 14.19.34 # bye matsl 14.19.41 Quit matsl ("[x]chat") 14.27.55 Join lhrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-017-016.dsl1.versanet.de) 14.29.18 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.29.31 Nick lhrocker is now known as langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-017-016.dsl1.versanet.de) 14.35.36 # is anyone else having their volume meter stuck on "numeric" no matter the setting? 14.35.52 # ummm 14.35.54 # not me 14.36.04 # lunch time 14.36.06 # cu! 14.36.09 Part quelsaruk (""Eve's Avatar - Avatar's Eve"") 14.36.16 Part s0be ("Client exiting") 14.37.50 # Zagor: yes 14.38.02 # Zagor: erm: no 14.39.21 # I can switch graphic <-> numeric display as usual 14.41.00 # I even reset the settings. still numeric. very strange. 14.41.29 # there's an annoying delay when exiting settings now :-( 14.41.53 # I just hope we both are talking about the recorder? 14.42.05 # wtf! sleep(HZ/2); i told him not to do that 14.42.23 # yes 14.42.33 # player can't show volume numerically, afaik :) 14.43.14 # concerning sleep: dwihno is good at making things wake up... :) 14.48.39 # ahhh! "Per your request, the stale lock has been removed from your project CVS repository." 14.52.42 # what is a stale lock? 14.52.51 # I HATE STALE LOCKS! 14.53.05 # :-) 14.53.22 # while you are making stuff use system fonts. 14.53.28 # make the recording screen use system fonts. 14.53.34 # with large fonts it looks no good 14.53.48 # ok 14.54.25 # also, can you make the navigation wrap around using the keyboard. 14.54.40 # Zagor: for some reason "u" on my keyboard is a "y" 14.55.34 # mine too. strange :-) 14.55.39 # (fixing) 14.57.09 # the top row in the keyboard reads "A B C D E F G H" and it should read "E L I N E N B E" 14.57.17 # hehe 14.58.22 # wrap works for me 14.58.38 # okay... I just forgot if it was in there. 14.58.44 # haha 14.58.49 # is the keyboard even used for anything currently? 14.58.55 Join lhrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-017-202.dsl1.versanet.de) 14.59.04 # i'm adding rename 14.59.20 # Zagor: what is the interface to that? 14.59.31 # I think F3 could be great for "file management" 14.59.40 # f3 up = file rename 14.59.41 # ON+PLAY for a file management quickscreen 14.59.48 # oh -- ok 14.59.51 # that is good too! 15.01.06 # queue is moved to that screen too 15.01.29 # I just wished I had more time at hand to complete the key binding stuff... 15.02.05 # is queue necessairly "file managament"? 15.02.25 # call it "file actions" the 15.02.26 # n 15.05.58 # "File ninja stuff"!!! 15.06.21 Quit lhrocker (Success) 15.06.41 # * dwihno can't see any CVS updates! :~( 15.07.32 # I think F1 should be a quick menu too. 15.07.38 # the mute is well hidden 15.09.19 # so how we enter the menu? 15.09.38 Join lhrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-068.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.09.38 Quit lhrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.10.03 # like how we enter the F2 menu 15.10.06 # or the F3 menu 15.10.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.11.33 # we have no f2 f3 menu. those are screens. 15.11.42 # how can we have both screen and menu on f1? 15.11.57 # nooo... I mean make F1 a screen like F2 or F3 15.12.03 # i know 15.12.05 # not a menu 15.12.05 Join lhrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-017-208.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.12.11 # WELL WE HAVE A MENU 15.12.20 # which we enter with f1 today 15.12.33 # make f1 a screen and we can't enter the menu 15.12.40 # (sorry for screaming :) 15.13.53 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.13.58 # press F1 for menu (as it is today) 15.14.18 # and hold for quickscreen (as it is works for mute and keylock) 15.14.45 # ok. yes that would work. 15.15.00 # I think a quick press is better for quickscreens 15.15.06 # and a hold is better for menu 15.15.15 # but of course this will change the behavior everyone is used to. 15.22.12 Join lhrocker_ [0] (~Phil@212-204-018-065.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.22.29 Quit lhrocker (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.22.30 Nick lhrocker_ is now known as lhrocker (~Phil@212-204-018-065.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.22.41 Nick lhrocker is now known as langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-018-065.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.23.19 # hi langhaarrocker 15.23.46 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.27.26 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-017-149.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.27.38 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.28.59 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-242.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.35.51 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.37.20 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-017-071.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.44.37 Join lhrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-016-189.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.48.55 Quit lhrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.56.23 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.57.40 # oooh! DELETE! 15.57.42 # woo! 15.57.44 # HOO! 15.58.29 # :-) 15.58.53 # Zagor: can you delete a directory? 15.59.15 # Zagor: what about a "move" -- how hard would that be to implement? 15.59.45 # uh, i think maybe you can. but the files in it won't be freed, so it's not a good idea :-) 16.00.01 # move is not so very hard. i just have to sit down and do it. 16.01.52 # Delete? How cool 16.03.17 Join lhrocker_ [0] (~Phil@212-204-017-146.dsl1.versanet.de) 16.05.28 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp91.contactor.se) 16.14.06 # matsl: can you try my latest changes and see if they are ok on the player? i've only tested in the simulator. 16.23.38 Quit lhrocker_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.26.53 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EABD95.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.27.07 # Zagor: How much of a performace killer would a reverse display be? 16.27.33 # whole thing reversed is cheap 16.27.43 # record lcd supports this by hardware 16.28.23 # How about just marking the current "selection" in the file browser?? 16.28.38 # hm dunno, but once it was too slow 16.29.01 # (iirc especially when scrolling for a long distance) 16.29.06 # scrolling down in dir 16.29.44 # that could be arranged with some keyboard/screen timeout thing 16.30.28 # jump scroll would be neat in such cases 16.30.59 # (like the setting in xterm) 16.31.03 # There can't be such a huge performance difference. 16.31.23 # tremendous! 16.31.24 # :) 16.32.12 # Zagor: l8ter. I have the player @ home. What changes should I look for? 16.32.50 # Schnueff: No way :-) It will be neato! 16.32.59 # And we will save several pixels from the cursor too! 16.33.07 # i'm looking forward to your benchmarks :) 16.33.37 # I'll optimize the routines bigtime! 16.34.03 # matsl: I've added ON+PLAY in the browser, for queueing, deleting and renaming. 16.34.17 # ok! 16.35.46 # Zagor: One of my playlists was suddenly filled with only zeroes. Are there any reports of this type of error? 16.36.03 # zeroes=nulls!? 16.36.54 # uh? never heard of that, no 16.37.00 # on disk? 16.37.22 # Zagor: in the rename function. I think there should be a way to move back and forth. 16.37.50 # currently if I have a file that is 40 characters long, to get rid of the leading "00 - " 16.38.05 # I have to erase the entire filename, and then rewrite the entire thing! 16.38.09 # elinenbe: me too. unfortunately, i couldn't find any buttons for it in the gui :-( 16.38.22 # Zagor: jupp! Suddenly I wasn't able to use the playlist. I looked at it in emacs. Only nulls. 16.38.29 # matsl: very strange 16.38.50 # also, when you queue songs now, it doe snot tell you how many are in the queue 16.38.58 Join lhrocker_ [0] (~Phil@212-204-017-214.dsl1.versanet.de) 16.38.59 # I have to check the new gui structure, thinking off features like recusive queue, insert & delete from playlist 16.39.01 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.32) 16.39.22 # ircII: recursive queue and playing is an incredible option. 16.39.42 # Zagor: It could be when testing the queueing. It writes the queued songs to disk or something. 16.40.41 # yes. but it shouldn't bust your playlist :-) 16.41.06 # Note to self: Don't test the newest builds ;-) 16.41.25 # Zagor: can you have the filename scroll in the delete file screen? 16.41.30 # no.. it only writes /.rockbox/.queuefile 16.42.09 # Zagor: I'll try the queueing a lot more to see if I can get the error again. 16.42.13 # Zagor: I have figured out a way to move the cursor left/right 16.42.25 # Zagor: off should be cancel as it is in all menus 16.43.06 # Zagor: and the middle button (F2) should switch from move mode to write mode (or you hold down F2 and left/right) to move the cursot 16.44.02 # elinenbe: off is cancel. i doubled it on f2 so it would be visible for users. (cancel is a pretty important button). maybe that's not necessary. 16.44.29 # I think it is understood that off is cancel, as it is cancel everywhere in Rockbox. 16.44.46 # fine by me. i think I can remember :-) 16.45.03 Part lhrocker_ 16.46.20 # isn't also stop 16.46.33 # Zagor: otherwise it looks really nice. (except that it also allows you to delete folders) 16.46.59 # ricII: stop is cancel on player, yes 16.47.21 # uh, no it's not :-) 16.47.52 # ehh /-) 16.48.04 # stop is del on player 16.48.26 # ok sounds logic. 16.48.38 # del is a more powerfull stop... 16.49.25 # bagder had the idea of using "magic chars" in the pages for Done, Cancel and Backspace instead of using buttons. 16.50.30 # I like my idea better. 16.50.38 # but that would work too... as long as there is something. 16.50.53 # one problem is that player has no cancel today :-) 16.51.21 # rockbox should stop supporting the player :) 16.52.01 # hehe. I fear the wrath of matsl :) 16.52.34 # * dwihno wants inverted selection! :) 16.52.35 # Gimme 16.52.36 # would it be possible to convert the line in to a serial port and make a keyboard work through it? 16.52.38 # :-) 16.52.51 # s0be: yes. we use it for remote gdb already 16.52.58 # elinenbe: What's the matter? ;-) 16.53.05 # s0be: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/serialport.html 16.53.27 # I knew that much, but how would you implement it in the rom? would it be hard to add code for it in there? 16.53.38 # s0be: not really 16.53.49 # Zagor: I haven't followed closely but stop is cancel in the menues. Could be frustrating to find that stop deletes when you wanted to cancel the thing. Not what you expected. 16.54.05 # Zagor: I've seen the remote mod and stuff like that. IN a few weeks I plan on doing the 8meg mod and adding a larger HD 16.54.20 # cvs down ? 16.54.44 # ricII: yes, anonymous cvs is down. :-( sourceforge is working on it. 16.54.45 # cvs on sourceforge is down to non ssh access right now 16.55.00 # cvs works with ssh ere. 16.55.20 # matsl: i know. but there are no more keys on the player... 16.56.05 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 16.56.06 # ello 16.56.11 # Zagor: be imaginative 16.56.16 # :-) 16.56.55 # actually we could use more combo keys. the current keyboard uses no combos. 16.57.10 # Zagor: If you could brief me on the problem, kjer and I could take a players view on it. 16.57.35 # ohm... st00pid newbies question, but im confused by some words on your homepage: does rockbox play mp3s with variable bitrate? 16.57.48 # jupp 16.57.53 # :] 16.57.57 # * Nibbler goes and buys 16.57.57 # matsl: well just try to rename a file. 16.58.23 # matsl: you'll see how the keyboard works. MENU is the shift key. ON is for Done. 16.58.46 # matsl: propose ways to make it better 16.59.02 # ok. I'll look at it before I'll chop it to pieces ;-) 17.01.45 # matsl: make a backup of the file, just in case ;) 17.03.33 # dwihno: I'll rely on cvs for backup ;-) 17.04.25 # why has development on the ipod been so stagnent? 17.04.34 # I would have thought someone would have hacked it by now. 17.04.51 # the ipod has something like 30% of the mp3 player market here in the States 17.07.01 # got my pub-key on sourceforge, but that probly wont be anough 17.07.07 # matsl: Use CVS for your playlists ;) ? 17.08.00 # dwihno: ;) 17.08.11 # :-) 17.08.22 # * dwihno wants inverted display <------------ this ---------> much 17.08.34 # * dwihno wants inverted display <------------ this ---------> much 17.08.47 # grmbl 17.09.26 # elinenbe: half of them are apple owners, and apple owners are *always* happy. every apple product is perfect and needs no enhancements. 17.10.16 # apples are bad. they fill the hard disk with stupid dirs! 17.10.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.10.40 # "Please wait while 'rebuilding the desktop' --- " ? 17.11.20 # It should say "Please wait while creating stupid subdirs in every directory"! 17.12.30 # dwihno: as soon as I see that I realize I have turned on the wrong computer and I shut it off. 17.13.08 # elinenbe: you have a mac? 17.20.29 # Zagor: Player simulator doesn't compile. BUTTON_OFF isn't defined. 17.20.39 # oops 17.23.03 # fixaed 17.25.11 # gotta go 17.25.12 Part Zagor 17.30.21 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 17.30.27 # hi 17.33.40 Quit Nibbler ("Growing old is inevitable. Growing up is optional.") 17.44.20 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone0r (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 17.59.42 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 18.00.04 # hi and bye 18.00.10 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 18.19.36 # time to go. cu 18.19.52 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 18.23.24 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 18.23.54 # morning all 18.26.12 # morning 18.33.43 # can you access cvs? 18.33.56 # mecraw: nope, appears to be down 18.34.28 # ok, i was worried my company shut down the port again 18.39.41 # bizarre, only anonymous cvs is down 18.39.42 Quit Goku_4658 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.10.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.55.09 Join gumboots [0] (fith@pc3-cmbg2-6-cust93.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) 19.55.31 # hello? 19.56.00 # (first time here :) ) 19.56.50 # I've been trying to record using the daily builds. Should it be working from the digital input? 20.07.43 Nick gumboots is now known as gumboots_away (fith@pc3-cmbg2-6-cust93.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) 20.09.37 Join adi|work [0] (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 20.25.03 Quit ricII (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20.28.16 Join edx`afk [0] (~edx@pD9EAA336.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.29.19 Join slacker [0] (~slacker@adsl-65-70-138-196.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net) 20.29.30 # hello all 20.30.47 Part slacker 20.32.43 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Silly faggot! mIRC is for kids!") 20.32.55 Join Hamanjam [0] (~slacker@adsl-65-70-138-196.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net) 20.36.12 Quit Hamanjam (Client Quit) 20.40.20 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.41.14 Nick edx`afk is now known as edx (~edx@pD9EAA336.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.41.44 Nick gumboots_away is now known as gumboots (fith@pc3-cmbg2-6-cust93.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) 20.50.00 Part gumboots 21.10.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.18.39 DEBUG EOF from server (No route to host) 21.18.39 *** Cleanup 21.18.39 *** Cleanup 21.18.39 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 21.18.39 *** Exit 21.18.44 *** Started Dancer V4.16p1 21.18.44 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 21.18.44 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 21.18.44 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 21.18.44 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 21.18.44 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 21.18.44 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 21.18.44 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 21.18.44 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 21.18.44 *** Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 21.18.44 *** Cleanup 21.18.44 *** Connected to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 21.18.44 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 21.19.15 *** Server message 501: 'logbot :Unknown MODE flag' 21.19.15 Mode "logbot :+i" by logbot 21.19.15 Join logbot [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 21.19.15 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-11.216-194-24-180.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 21.19.15 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 21.19.15 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 21.19.15 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EAA336.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.19.15 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 21.19.15 Join quel|out [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 21.19.15 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.32) 21.19.15 Join Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 21.19.15 Join laotan [0] (~jesse@markham.openflows.org) 21.19.15 Join meshuga [0] (firewall@12-211-38-165.client.attbi.com) 21.19.15 Join dw|gone0r [0] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 21.19.15 Join Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 21.19.15 Join elinenbe [0] (M-SLR@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 21.19.15 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.34.48) 21.19.15 Join y0m [0] (~y0m@y0m.net) 21.19.15 Join MrSnazz [0] (~jmc@e-64-35-146-236.empnet.net) 21.19.15 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-40-78.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 21.19.15 Join void_ [0] (void@epicsol.org) 21.19.15 Join seb-school [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.19.15 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 21.19.15 Join imagine [0] (imagine@rakis.net) 21.21.14 Join ludo [0] (~ludovic@AC8C7717.ipt.aol.com) 21.22.55 # cu tomorrow! 21.23.05 Part quel|out (""Eve's Avatar - Avatar's Eve"") 21.23.58 # Hello. I have a JBRFM and I want to start hacking it, to add support for rockbox. 21.25.06 # I have a newbie question : once I have copied a new firmware on the disk (by USB), and after the JBRFM has successfully booted it, how can I go back to the original firmware (without disassembling the disk) ? 21.25.34 # delete the firmware file 21.26.26 # And, to delete the firmware file, I think I need to boot back to the old (ROM) firmware, if my pseudo-firmware doesn't take care of the USB connection. Or am I wrong ? 21.26.27 # it will boot from the firmware in ROM if there is no firmware file in the root directory 21.27.59 # you should be able to use USB by turning the unit on with the USB already attached to a computer 21.28.52 # Ok, you mean that the USB will be served by the original firmware then ? That's great, thank you, Lee. I was afraid to start hacking without any way back... 21.29.30 # Yep, good luck. 21.30.39 # Thanks. By the way, does anybody know of anyone already working on the JBR FM device ? I'll probably start working on it, but I don't want to duplicate any existing work.... From the FAQ / archive, it seems that no one has started though. 21.51.42 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.52.46 Join adi|work [0] (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 21.55.08 # ludo: check the mail archives, rockbox has already once booted on the FM 21.55.43 # didn't work very much, needs work on display & battery handling to start with 21.56.17 # but it booted anyway, the firmware file encoding format is known enough to produce bootable rockbox images 21.57.56 # Hes: Oah, great, I haven't found this info in the ml yet. Any idea of the date ? I'll do my homework and find it then. 21.57.58 # Yes, I've just disassembled the firmware this afternoon, and it seems very, very close to what's on the website concerning the other models. Cool ! 22.00.05 Join _WWu_ [0] (~wwu01@alumni.poly.edu) 22.00.29 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-12/0586.shtml 22.00.31 # start from there 22.00.40 # he got someone to test the image 22.01.27 # <_WWu_> hey guys... have a question... can anyone tell me a compatible charger for the jb6k? or do i only have to get it from archos.com? 22.01.37 # Great ! Thank You, Heikki ! 22.01.41 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2002-12/0610.shtml 22.02.16 # _WWu_: I wrote some documentation on that in the power FAQ at rockbox.haxx.se. 22.02.37 # documentation, Frequently Asked Questions about Batteries and Charging 22.03.47 # <_WWu_> cool... reading it now 22.08.49 # * _WWu_ is away - Automatically set away. - messages will be saved. 22.10.19 # <_WWu_> Hes: Very useful FAQ! Thanks... 22.12.54 # <_WWu_> Hes: do you know the size of the "plug" for the DC-IN? is it a standard size? 22.23.30 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 22.26.35 Join jony [0] (~jony@200.66.111.88) 22.26.40 # hi 22.27.12 # whould thes: /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat users,rwx 0 0 22.27.38 # be a valid entry for fstab to get full acces to all users 22.27.40 # ? 22.35.41 # anyone? 22.41.29 Join ricII [0] (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) 22.54.03 # _WWu_: it's a standard size, 2.5mm or something like that 22.54.17 # um, not 2.5mm. probably something else. 22.54.29 # take your device with you to the store. 22.57.32 # <_WWu_> ok, will do 22.57.47 # <_WWu_> thanks Hes 23.02.37 Join nazeman [0] (~nazeman@dclient217-162-62-2.hispeed.ch) 23.02.55 Quit nazeman (Client Quit) 23.03.37 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 23.04.28 # Zagor!!! 23.04.38 # hi elinenbe 23.04.50 # Zagor: is there anyway to ahut off interrupts? 23.04.57 # s/ahut/shut 23.05.10 # no 23.05.17 # why do you want to? 23.05.39 # I am working on grayscale, but there is quite a bit of flicker on the middle shades 23.05.59 # ok 23.06.30 # I used to program the ti-85 about 7 years ago, and if you shut off the interrupts, you would get much nicer grayscale. 23.07.01 Quit jony ("Aplicación Saliendo") 23.07.40 # Zagor: any reason you removed the queue info display after a song is queued? 23.08.01 # Zagor: I liked seeing that too! 23.08.42 # i made my screen go funky (on my player) once and all/most of it filled in, but there were patterns that filled in darker than the rest... just thought that was kinda weird 23.11.17 # hardeep: i didn't think it was necessary since now you explicitly press a button labeled "Queue" 23.12.10 # Zagor: true enough... it was more the number queued i liked seeing 23.12.27 # Zagor: but i guess we will have to add a queue browser anyways.... just show the info in that 23.13.15 # ah. yes, i'm not a big fan of delays in general. after the first time, info screens with delay are usually more annoying than helpful 23.13.55 # elinenbe: the trouble with shutting off interrupts is that much functionality goes too. such as button detection. 23.15.02 # but you can test it by simply not calling kernel_init() in main.c 23.16.14 # Zagor: thanks. 23.17.16 # interesting... bug 668524 is valid and resume is broken... 23.17.24 # it is? 23.17.32 # probably something i added. :) i'll take a look 23.18.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.22.14 # I have a good bug report: 23.22.20 # stop a song 23.22.26 # so now you are just in the browser 23.22.34 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 23.22.51 # then select a .ajz file to load. 23.22.56 # now you get a resume. 23.23.11 # shouldn't the resume point be erased when you hit stop on a song? 23.23.31 # elinenbe: yeah 23.24.18 # no, I removed that a while back 23.24.22 # well, that is my bug report for the day 23.24.39 # It sounds like it is Hardeep & elinenbe vs. Zagor 23.24.47 # the thinking was that you want resume more often than you don't 23.25.11 # well, it just keeps resuming every time I rolo a new file 23.25.22 # yes. rolo is the same as booting. 23.25.33 # and resume runs at boot 23.25.49 # but I stopped the song! 23.26.02 # yup 23.26.13 # elinenbe: i agree that resume should kick in after rolo... but for stopped songs? 23.26.38 # I do not think it should resume after you stop a song. 23.26.43 # er, does it also try to resume if you shut off the machine? 23.26.49 # elinenbe: do you have resume ask or yes? 23.26.50 # w/o rolo? 23.26.53 # hardeep: yes 23.26.54 # on yes 23.27.08 # elinenbe: that would explain why you find it annoying :-) 23.29.09 # Zagor: I just tried the rename feature.. I renamed a folder and it was lost :-( 23.29.28 # matsl: hmm, bad 23.29.38 # i've only tried it with files myself :-) 23.30.05 # lcd_invertrect forces to the nearest 8 -- right? 23.30.14 # Zagor: The play and stop buttons for inserting and deleteing isn't that bad though. Just need a way to bail out completely. 23.30.38 # matsl: MENU+STOP maybe? 23.30.58 # Zagor: Could due for now. 23.31.01 # not exactly intuitive, but we don't have a lot of choices... 23.31.19 # elinenbe: does it? i thought it worked for every pixel. 23.31.55 # from the API doc: Update the given rectangle to the LCD. Give arguments measured in 23.31.55 # pixels. Notice that the smallest vertical resolution in updates that the 23.31.55 # hardware supports is even 8 pixels. This function will adjust to those 23.32.06 # oki 23.34.32 # Zagor: when I change case and characters with menu I sometimes get "ng on secto" displayed on the second row. What is that? 23.34.59 # uh? good question. 23.36.10 # Zagor: I saw it now. The whole text is "writing on sector 0". How did that find its way there? 23.36.11 # seriously out-of-his depth pointer, i'd say 23.36.53 # ah, now I know. 23.37.12 # scroll so "V" is to the left of your screen. then press MENU three times. 23.37.41 # you forgot the chant! 23.37.53 # the fourth mode line is shorter than the others, so you see the next pointer in ram 23.38.04 # hardeep: and the goat liver 23.38.30 # matsl: fix coming up 23.38.35 # blah, right... always forget that one 23.38.47 # hardeep: back to enchanter school for you ;) 23.39.57 # Zagor: How about using two lines for the ren-del menu. It would make translations easier. 23.40.34 # matsl: we are using two lines. the top line shows "> Queue" if you are playing music 23.40.48 # aha ;-) 23.41.15 # matsl: can you rename normal files? 23.41.20 # aha, one benefit of resume info not clearing after stop.... makes debugging resume bugs easier! just need to rolo to check resume, woo 23.41.52 # hardeep: I told you it was better :) 23.41.52 # Zagor: w8 23.45.40 # Zagor: I could change name of one file. 23.46.31 # dirs are files too. i wonder why that didn't work 23.47.04 Quit edx () 23.47.35 # Zagor: me to! I'll try another dir. 23.49.37 # Zagor: Lost that dir to :-( (But it contained only crap!) 23.49.49 Join CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] [0] (~awdyf@200.202.226.234) 23.49.50 # Zagor: I am getting similar behavior 23.50.28 # Zagor: The text input should use rocklatin! 23.51.08 # matsl: yes. i wrote the keyboard before rocklatin existed. feel free to expand it. 23.51.25 # Zagor: kjer and I will be happy to do it! 23.51.56 # good 23.52.14 # Zagor: There is no "OK" when changing values. Only "Cancel" when aborting. Is that intentional? 23.52.38 # Zagor: (I've changed the subject. talking about the menus) 23.52.49 Quit _WWu_ ("I'm outta here!") 23.53.00 # yes, I removed the OK. it drove me nuts! 23.53.41 # Zagor: OK. I liked it. 23.53.44 # (and yes, I really am an undemocratic bastard ;) 23.54.10 # Ha. I'll slip it in just before relase! 23.54.15 # :) 23.55.37 Join TTmatt [0] (fith@pc3-cmbg2-6-cust93.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) 23.55.55 # anon cvs has been down for quite some time now... must be something major 23.56.22 # hello 23.56.32 # hi TTmatt 23.56.34 # Zagor: The queue thing workes fine. No "acknowledge" display, Queued and total number of queued song. Is that also intentional? 23.56.50 # matsl: yes. i removed that too. 23.56.54 # wondered if I could ask you something about the builds with record? 23.57.07 # i spend most my time removing what you guys put in. much more simple work. 23.57.15 # TTmatt: sure 23.57.20 # Zagor: Fint. With less text we need less translations! 23.57.34 # matsl: true 23.57.48 # thanks... I'm trying to record from the digital input. Is that implemented yet? 23.57.51 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAA336.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.58.02 # hardeep: yes, there is a posting on sourceforge about it. they are having stability problems, apparently. 23.58.10 # TTmatt: yes it is 23.58.26 # I can't seem to get it to work :( 23.58.32 # Zagor: I guess some playlist browsing feature in the future will solve all out problems with what will be played next etc. 23.58.48 # matsl: yes 23.58.51 # TTmatt: what happens?