--- Log for 21.01.103 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 day and 9 hours ago 00.00.22 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.32) 00.01.25 # ricII: hmmm, there is no variable named queue_resume_offset... do you mean queue_resume_index? 00.02.08 # yes it they all start to get mixedup in my mind.. 00.08.42 Join gclark [0] (~glc@user-119ah2f.biz.mindspring.com) 00.10.52 Join Sonnendeck [0] (jirc@vpn017031.uni-rostock.de) 00.11.08 # hi devzero 00.11.28 # huhu ;) 00.14.17 Quit Sonnendeck (Client Quit) 00.15.03 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.19.12 # hi linus 00.19.55 # yo 00.20.29 # are you ok? your wife and your child? read that yesterday on this channel ;) 00.21.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.21.28 # my best wishes 00.21.38 # i'm fine, kids are fine, wife is really bad 00.22.21 # ohhh, why? 00.22.26 # kids? 00.22.30 # did you get twins? 00.22.51 # i have a 3-year-old son as well as the newborn daughter 00.23.27 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 00.23.31 # ah, ok. is it because of the birth, that your wife feels so bad? 00.23.35 # my wife has complications from the pregnancy, so she cannot sit or stand 00.24.01 # and will not get up for several months 00.24.27 # uhhh. no good. wish her get well soon ! 00.24.39 # extreme pain, lots of painkillers 00.24.47 # i'll send your regards 00.24.53 # :) 00.25.07 # she cant get up for MONTHS? 00.25.42 # * LinusN is holding his breath as he connects his Recorder USB to his laptop for the first time 00.25.53 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@user-38ldctg.dialup.mindspring.com) 00.26.09 # devZer0: months, maybe even a year 00.26.28 # staying in BED? 00.26.47 # in bed 00.27.25 # oh, this can happen when bearing children? 00.27.27 # uhhh 00.27.50 # it is very rare 00.28.09 # and she and you are that unlucky ones... 00.29.31 # wish you all the best 00.30.07 # thx 00.32.47 # linus - i have recognized, i can easy collect statistics information regardings jirc applet usage :D 00.32.49 # several months, who is gonna take care of the kids ? 00.33.29 # probably the guy on this channel ? ;) 00.33.34 # ricII: i will 00.33.55 # and there is a pair of grandpa and grandma ? 00.33.58 # that's full day job .. 00.34.05 # ricII: more than that 00.34.20 # <_seb_> LinusN: teach her C, we can have a full-timer on the rockbox team :D 00.34.22 # and my parents live in France 00.35.01 # we are staying at her parents house at the moment, 500 kilometers from home 00.35.24 # I have some colleagues who reported, how it was when they got a child 00.35.29 # must be horrible 00.35.34 # no sleep at night.... 00.35.47 # takes quite some time and energy 00.36.13 # and a lot of stress on Sara (my wife) as she can't do anything 00.36.28 # not even read a book (whiplash injury as well) 00.36.28 # better I hear all sorts of horror storys before I become a dad.... 00.36.47 # perhaps it`s not that hard then, when you know what you have to expect 00.37.06 # devZer0: the new child is a dream child 00.37.27 # she is rarely any trouble, just eats, sleeps and smiles 00.37.35 # :) 00.37.45 # fine 00.37.47 # sounds sweet:) 00.37.57 # well, she fills her diapers efficiently as well :-) 00.37.58 # did your wife also have an accident? 00.38.11 # devZer0: yeah, a bus crash a few years ago 00.38.35 # was that the reason for complications 00.38.36 # ` 00.38.38 # ? 00.38.56 # constant neck/head pain and difficulties to read and write 00.39.05 # whiplash 00.40.09 # but the accident wasn`t her guiltiness and she will get some money? 00.40.22 # well, i don't know the english word for the problems she's having now 00.40.38 # money doesn't solves it.. 00.40.52 # no,youre right 00.40.56 # devZer0: insurance companies in Sweden rarely takes whiplash injuries seriously 00.41.18 # don`t know how this is handled in germany 00.41.35 # no physical evidence of an injury, never shows on x-ray 00.41.42 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.41.52 # the only thing i know is, that it is hard to diagnose 00.42.21 # you can go to a doctor and sey - hey, i`ve had an accident and have got a whiplash 00.42.38 # perhaps this is the reason, why it is difficult with insurance.... 00.43.02 # but it is nothing compared to that, that she has to stay in bed for so long 00.43.05 # :( 00.44.53 # true 00.45.19 # but this will eventually heal, the whiplash will not 00.45.34 # whiplash wouldn`t heal? 00.45.58 # if it doesn't heal within a year, it never does 00.46.11 # constant pain, for the rest of her life 00.46.44 # i have never heard that before 00.47.21 # i will never make fun of that 00.47.56 # when i was in the army, there was some paramedic guys 00.48.06 # they had an accident with the car 00.48.09 # 4 people 00.48.41 # and all of them had worn a ruff after that 00.48.56 # the whole company laughed at them :) 00.49.04 # :-( 00.49.47 # i really didn`t know, that it can cause pain forever 00.50.27 # yes - this isn`t funny 00.51.58 # perhaps we should drop this subject? 00.56.17 # hey, people on this channel are very idle.... 00.56.28 Part LinusN 00.56.34 # hmm 00.56.45 # oh - did I say the wrong words? 00.56.48 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.57.00 # hope not 00.58.28 Join GreyShadow [0] (Snak@adsl-209-204-188-244.sonic.net) 00.58.30 # have to get some sleep 00.58.56 # nite ricII 00.59.01 # good night! 00.59.08 # be well 00.59.25 Nick ricII is now known as ricII|sleep (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) 01.27.26 # LinusN: Don't like 8192, huh? I just did it that way so it would more closely match your use of 65536. 01.27.27 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.29.29 # gclark: i find hex numbers more even, i can't figure out why i used 65536 in the first place. must have been drunk :-) 01.33.13 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-153-119-16.mia.bellsouth.net) 01.33.40 # is there any negative effect to using smaller a dma transfer? 01.35.08 # Zagor: yes, the DMA interrupt will be processed more often 01.36.22 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 01.36.22 Quit mecraw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.42.04 # LinusN: ok. so we're moving from 0.25 Hz to about 2Hz for 128kbit data. not too alarming :-) 01.42.29 # not really 01.43.44 # so what do you think about the distortion problem? 01.44.00 # i don't know 01.44.22 # i'd prefer a dB display 01.44.45 # and informing that anything above 0dB is "dangerous" 01.45.21 # or maybe the >100% way 01.45.46 # won't a dB display be rather weird at low volume? what is the dB difference btwn 55 and 60 for instance? 01.45.46 # Yeah, use some red crayon to color the dangerous part! 01.46.52 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.47.02 # yeah, dB display is very informative, and at the same time total nonsense :-) 01.47.32 # max 110% is a nice idea. i think most people will understand what that means. 01.48.13 # it will not be exactly 110%, but anyway 01.48.46 # i like the concept 01.49.25 # ok, so i have a go? 01.50.04 # fine by me 01.50.28 # just make sure saved config values don't make people deaf :) 01.50.36 # What are you going to do fore those using the graphic volume display? 01.50.37 Quit mbr (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.51.01 # nothing 01.51.15 # it displays numeric when you change it 01.51.22 # i think that is enough 01.51.29 # Zagor: the saved values are not in percent, for what i know 01.51.34 # Good idea. 01.51.37 # LinusN: ok, good 01.52.33 # damn, they are percent 01.53.14 # make the config incompatible and set new lower default values 01.53.28 # ok 01.53.37 # Or multiply times 1.1 before display? 01.53.56 # gclark: nah, then we have to live with that kludge forever 01.54.24 # Right. 01.56.07 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 02.01.46 # good night guys - have fun 02.01.54 # :-O 02.02.18 # nite devZer0 02.03.32 # Zagor: the stored setting will result in a lower volume, so i don't think we need to reset the settings 02.05.28 # ah, right. i was thinking the wrong way. 02.05.55 # sleep time. bye! 02.05.56 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 02.11.44 Quit devZer0 ("Leaving") 02.21.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.29.58 # aaah 02.30.02 # hmm 02.30.04 # anybody here? 02.31.00 # i'm here 02.31.34 # do you think that Bjorn and other mailing list subscribers would mind if I sent a sale offer to mailing list? 02.31.37 # or archos stuff of course 02.32.06 # private sale offer? 02.34.56 # well just liek an ad saying to email me if interested 02.34.57 # yea 02.35.03 # I have some extra accessories 02.35.48 # i wouldn't mind, as long as it is personal and not commercial 02.38.30 # what do you have? 02.39.40 # extra charger, blue nylon case, headphones, sync cable, and legit music match liscense that has NEVER BEEN INSTALLED 02.40.03 # archos stolen so bought new one and have overlapping stuff and new musicmatch not used yet 02.40.03 # wow that sucks, it was stolen? 02.40.06 # that's what I'm afraid of 02.40.12 # when I go out I bring the thing with me everywhere 02.40.36 # well actually 02.40.44 # I left it on an airplane THEN it was stolen LOL 02.40.45 # so my stupidty 02.40.45 # haha 02.40.52 # but I feel smarter saying it was just stolen lol 02.40.56 # hehe 02.42.52 # so are you interested in anything? 02.46.09 # ...? 02.47.09 # void are you there? 02.47.28 # ya 02.47.30 # gotta go to sleep 02.47.32 # well I have most of that stuff 02.47.33 # cu guys 02.47.36 # later Linus 02.47.40 Part LinusN 02.48.01 # I just got mine a couple of weeks ago 02.49.07 # get extras LOL 02.49.28 # hehe 02.49.41 # if you had batteries I would take them 02.49.46 # well 02.49.51 # I am planning to buy 2100 mah ones 02.49.55 # then ill probably sell these then 02.50.02 # hrm 02.50.09 # how much are they? 02.50.16 # 2100? 02.50.21 # ya 02.50.21 # dunno 02.50.27 # foudn some for $5 a piece but seem shigh to me 02.50.32 # thought I foudn it cheaper elsewhere 02.50.35 # help me look 02.50.36 # :) 02.50.39 # that's not too bad though 02.50.39 # ok 02.50.40 # online look for batt stores 02.51.21 # heh I put in 2100 and batteries and got 3 links 02.59.35 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 03.03.43 # there we go 03.03.44 # http://www.nimhbattery.com/ipower_2100mah_nimh_batteries.htm 03.03.46 # 4 for $15 03.09.47 # just have ssen this for 11.20 euro in germany 03.09.59 # well, sanyo 2100 NiMH AA 03.10.13 # hmm 03.10.15 # where? 03.10.17 # I live in the states 03.13.07 # oh well, at reichelt, but i just checked its not available yet 03.13.15 # becomes available "mid january" 03.27.09 Part gclark ("Client Exiting") 03.28.01 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 03.28.11 # is 6gb recorder for $144 shipped a good price? 03.28.39 # Jet8810: where did you find that deal? 03.28.46 # Jet8810: that is a GREAT deal! 03.29.05 # ebay 03.29.06 # used though 03.29.14 # but mint condition 03.30.32 # http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3001726632 03.33.07 # oh. 03.33.15 # well, that is still a really good deal 03.33.42 # hjm 03.33.45 # \thats 2000 mah though 03.33.49 # not 2100 ;-D 03.33.51 # hehe 03.34.00 # does that 100 mah make a big difference? 03.35.38 # dunno 03.35.47 # there's some others even cheaper on ebay too 03.35.54 # im tired 03.36.00 # yea Ill look when I actually have paypal money 03.36.01 # LOL 03.36.04 # but gg bye 03.36.05 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 03.37.19 # http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3000886609 03.37.20 # like those 03.37.54 # $1 plus free shipping 03.37.59 # $1 less even 04.17.13 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Who ate my nuggets?!") 04.17.14 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.19.30 Join Tweekend [0] (~tweekend@pool-68-160-194-215.ny325.east.verizon.net) 04.19.35 # Hi 04.21.09 Quit Tweekend (Client Quit) 04.21.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.43.10 Join elinenbe1 [0] (trilluser@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 04.43.10 Quit elinenbe (Remote closed the connection) 04.43.17 Nick elinenbe1 is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 04.45.31 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|sleep (trilluser@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 05.01.26 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAA5EF.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.03.59 Quit edx (Client Quit) 05.22.56 Quit adi|home ("Client Exiting") 05.24.59 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-11.216-194-24-180.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 05.24.59 Quit adi|home (Client Quit) 05.25.01 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-11.216-194-24-180.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 05.37.44 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAA5EF.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.38.09 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 06.14.27 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.14.27 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.21.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.26.58 Quit edx (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.38.21 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 07.56.34 Quit JunkeyWRK (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.56.34 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.05.28 Quit adi|home ("Client Exiting") 08.21.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.27.47 Join JunkeyWRK [0] (~junkey@208.209.215.213) 08.32.32 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.53.38 Join Bagder [0] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) 08.54.53 # moin 08.54.55 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-10.216-194-24-32.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 08.57.21 # just thought id mention.. my box is all better now :) 08.57.27 # figured out what my usb problem was... 08.58.19 # ah goodie 08.58.48 # now.. before i actual cook the cross compiler im getting you that damn shirt... 08.58.58 # go go go! 08.59.01 # i expect first thing thurs. morning (mytime) it should be in your box 08.59.12 # i want to work on it on the big monitor at work 08.59.30 # should i use the contrib list that was current when shirt was voted? or the current one now? 08.59.42 # i vote now 09.00.00 # I say now as well 09.00.09 # k.. done 09.08.04 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp91.contactor.se) 09.09.07 # Bagder: you woulnd't happen to remember the url for the cable company that was listed selling AA cables cheap? 09.09.22 # nope 09.09.28 # hmmm.. 09.10.11 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 09.38.31 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 09.41.41 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp91.contactor.se) 09.42.10 Quit s0be (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09.46.35 Nick ricII|sleep is now known as ricII|work (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) 09.54.47 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.54.53 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.55.01 # morn Z 09.55.07 # hi 09.56.31 # "what is the possibility of having you guys work on another project similarly like on Philips new jukebox but with a totally supportive manufacturer relationship and with it" 09.57.10 # :-] 09.57.10 # :) 09.57.47 # coffee time 10.04.33 # erps= 10.14.18 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.15.41 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-40-238.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 10.19.59 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 10.20.34 Quit TotMacher (Client Quit) 10.21.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.40.34 # yippie, I have an other rc for my archos (now I've to take care off shuffle) 10.40.35 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.53.01 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 10.55.00 # ah, so now we know why sourceforge pserver access was down 10.55.08 # http://security.e-matters.de/advisories/012003.html 10.55.12 # yeah 10.59.47 # pretty bad one that is 11.00.49 # yeah 11.01.21 # how is the status of subversion? might "we" (the unwashed public) be running it anytime soon? 11.02.53 # ? 11.03.05 # we might 11.03.21 # it has taken somewhat longer than expected, I'd say, but its coming along 11.03.48 # the SF-guys will probably offer svn once that gets stable enough 11.03.54 # (they've said so before) 11.03.59 # yup 11.04.18 # currently, the biggest problem with svn seems to be scalability and some performance issues 11.08.20 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.10.11 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-40-238.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 12.01.12 Quit TotMacher () 12.20.45 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 12.21.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.24.22 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-020-081.dsl1.versanet.de) 12.27.55 # if there's a dir will the shuffle play anything in that dir? 12.28.08 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp12-135.ath.forthnet.gr) 12.28.18 # void_: ? 12.28.35 # only the mp3 files 12.28.46 # ok so it won't play any other file type 12.28.57 # would be fun if rockbox played *.cfg files, too :) 12.29.03 # hehe 12.29.07 # that's cool 12.29.23 # Zagor: I'm copying some stuff (non-mp3s) 12.29.34 # just wondering if it'll play them by mistake or something 12.48.42 Quit adi|home (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.48.43 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.54.09 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-153-119-16.mia.bellsouth.net) 12.54.16 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 12.54.23 # morning 12.54.34 # nas quelsaruk 12.54.38 # :) 12.54.46 # hej Bagder 12.54.52 # hey 12.55.44 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 12.57.13 Quit ken0 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.17.04 Nick ricII|work is now known as ricII|afk (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) 13.17.04 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.21.40 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 13.57.13 Part Zagor 13.57.42 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 14.02.07 Nick seb-sleep is now known as seb-school (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.09.04 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 14.11.20 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAA10C.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.18.56 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.32) 14.21.03 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.21.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.30.39 # interesting sleep approach 14.31.10 # indeed 14.31.16 # i'm writing a mail 14.31.38 # this is almost the approach I once suggested that was flamed away :-) 14.32.06 # although this is a bit more naive 14.33.01 # I can't see how it works at all. he seems to be assuming all kind of code can run while in SLEEP mode 14.34.22 # no 14.34.39 # no? 14.34.40 # it assumes that if it goes one lap around with sleep_tread() it can SLEEP 14.34.54 # ah, right I see now 14.34.56 # where only wake_up() resets the counter 14.35.13 # which is weird 14.35.40 # and not very accurate 14.36.35 # not exactly transparent to the code 14.36.36 # remind me, why did we flame you about your similar suggestion? 14.37.07 # because remaking the scheduler to a sorted list with sleep times is SO much better 14.37.16 # yes 14.37.29 # but harder 14.42.48 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.42.53 # hi all! 14.43.52 # hi bobTHC 14.45.12 # are we polling the MAS on the recorder too, or is it only player? anyone remember? :) 14.45.51 # we're polling like mad on the player, but I don't think we do it on the recorder 14.46.21 # yeah, that's what I think too 14.46.38 # we only poll the keyboard 14.47.16 # right. the keyboard poll is hard to avoid. 14.51.28 # although I could personally live with having to "wake up" the archos from low-power mode 14.52.17 # well, the point of doing it automaticly would be to increase battery time 14.52.32 # without us noticing 14.52.48 # yes 14.53.32 # i wonder if there is a "power cost" in switching between running and sleeping 14.53.46 # I don't think so 14.57.25 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 15.08.44 # brb 15.08.45 Quit elinenbe|sleep ("ChatZilla 0.8.11 [Mozilla rv:1.2.1/20021130]") 15.15.31 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 15.19.37 Quit edx () 15.25.13 Join elinenbe3 [0] (trilluser@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 15.50.18 Part Zagor 15.50.19 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.50.44 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 15.54.28 Join lhrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-020-237.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.54.41 Nick lhrocker is now known as langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-237.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.57.18 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 15.57.52 # * Bagder tries matsl's beta-version of his elisp hack 15.58.26 # works nice 15.59.04 # lisp? for rockbox? 15.59.14 # -> count me out 15.59.24 # for hacking on rockbox in emacs 16.02.47 # anyone have a .ajz with the bookmark patch in? i want to use it, just not badly enough to go through working through the compile process. :) 16.03.18 # * Bagder has not 16.03.40 # guess i can email benjamin 16.08.39 # sounds like a start ;-) 16.10.48 # Mats and Kjell - the dymanic charset duo ;) 16.11.12 # :-) 16.17.05 # A.k.a insane player team ;) 16.19.44 # I am going to compile up the bookmark patch in a few minutes. 16.20.13 # of course my builds always have a bunch of junk in them -- extra stuff I have been working on. 16.21.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.28.19 # Hi. 16.28.33 # hi hes 16.28.41 # I'm getting plenty of out-of-order, duplicate, and pretty slow delivery on the mailing list. 16.28.55 # it's being overloaded atm 16.29.11 # its being zagorized 16.29.17 # What kind of system you're running now for it? 16.29.27 # dual amd 1900 16.29.43 # but Zagor's apartment swapping stuff kills it :-) 16.30.38 # Heh. What MTA? 16.31.09 # sendmail 16.31.10 # brutal takedown right now. i think i'm being DOSed :-( 16.31.48 Join edx` [0] (edx@pD9EAA10C.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.31.56 # and would you mind some help with it? I've ran some biggish ISP mail systems at Sonera. 16.32.17 # kill the apartment site, and just worry about rockbox. 16.32.28 # it is not as if that apartment site is as fun anyway! 16.32.53 # Hes: can you make it live during load > 140? :-) 16.33.12 # holy cow! 16.34.00 # Heh, maybe at least without duplicates & reordering 8-) 16.34.57 # but, seriously, I could offer the mailing list exploding service, or the whole list. 16.35.05 # if that'd help. 16.35.09 # the processes keep living, in Dead state. anyone know what that might me? 16.35.15 # 30545 apache 19 19 34620 D N 0.8 1.9 0:00 ./byta3 all 17330 3 10 16.35.31 # or, uh, D is not dead. ignore me :-) 16.37.24 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-35.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 16.38.17 # it could be made transparently so that the list addresses wouldn't change. 16.39.38 # Hes: i'm moving the apartment to another server tomorrow 16.39.43 # the apartment site 16.40.42 Quit edx` () 16.42.08 Part Zagor 16.42.27 # is he still in his appartment? :) 16.43.13 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 16.43.32 # re 16.44.06 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 16.44.13 # That should help. sendmail isn't particularly good with handling large queues or mailing lists. 16.45.17 # pretty much nothing is very good at this load... 16.45.27 # yeah. 8-) 16.46.59 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 16.47.11 Nick mecraw_ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 16.47.22 # and on top i've got this "#¤%&/()(/&%¤ proxy that keeps me hanging every 2 minutes 16.47.30 # But the offer for help stands, let me know if you want to offload the list to our boxes some day. 16.48.09 Join moofgooo [0] (jirc@p179-tnt1.ham.ihug.co.nz) 16.48.24 # thanks 16.51.36 Join edx` [0] (edx@pD9EAA10C.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.53.15 Nick edx` is now known as edx`s (edx@pD9EAA10C.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.55.29 # hi everyone, i have a small question about the usb cable for the jb6000. ive recently lost mine, can i use a generic 'usb a-male to a-male' cable. archos's faq says i shouldnt 16.57.38 # I think you can, but I'm no export on this 16.58.10 Part Zagor 16.58.15 # expert even 16.58.24 # heh 16.58.53 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 16.59.09 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 17.01.23 # ta bagder, im having an unbeliveabley hard time trying to source an 'usb a/a' cable 17.01.48 # I do think it has been mention on the rockbox list 17.01.54 # mentioned 17.02.07 # but I haven't really been paying attention on those threads 17.03.02 # I have three different kinds of usb cables for the jukebox. Each one works. 17.03.05 # on the mailing list?, is there a searchable archive or it around, sorry, im new here, ill try not to ask too many dumb questions 17.03.50 # the site is somewhat down atm, so you can't check it right now anyway 17.06.25 # thanks lang, sounds like a generic usb a/a does the biz then 17.07.24 Quit bobTHC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.08.20 # i'm off 17.08.23 Quit Bagder ("Client Exiting") 17.10.41 # me too, thanx for the usb cable info all 17.10.41 Quit moofgooo ("Leaving") 17.17.29 Quit quel|out (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.20.07 Nick ricII|afk is now known as ricII (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) 17.20.22 # ricII: how is the new playlist stuff coming along? 17.21.00 # it's working, now I'n on shuffle 17.21.23 # ricII: so what has been completed so far? 17.21.42 Part langhaarrocker 17.21.52 # append, insert, queue 17.23.01 # resume sould work but I suppect a prob. with the cvs version I based things on (settings aren't saved) 17.23.08 # ricII: sounds good. 17.23.25 # ricII: will there be any limit to the number of files in a directory anymore? 17.23.47 # ricII: do you think recursive play will soon be coming along? 17.23.53 # thats not up to the playlist code.. 17.24.07 # ricII: ah... 17.24.46 # but the uniform handling sould make features like that more easy.. 17.25.13 # ricII: sounds great. I still don't understand the benefits of the re-written playlisting code? 17.25.25 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 17.25.48 # elinenbe3 it implements dynamic changes to the playlist 17.26.36 # more like the bigger brother of queing 17.26.39 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 17.28.40 # ricII: Well, append, insert, and queue are really nice functions however. 17.28.44 Nick elinenbe3 is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 17.28.44 # so all the tree code has to do is step trough the directories and say append(song) for each mp3 17.28.57 # ricII: that is nice. 17.29.22 # ricII: I would love to be able to append, insert, or queue songs at will... that would be sweet :) 17.30.38 # gotta go 17.30.38 Part Zagor 17.32.51 # elinenbeL when I figured out why settings aren't saved (& fix it) you could try my ajbrec.ajz (shuffle doesn't work yet) 17.34.25 # ricII: are you able to select a song/directory in the broswer and then choose if you want to insert/queue/append? 17.34.56 # only songs now (dirs are tree.c) 17.37.31 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 17.38.00 # hmmm 17.38.03 # ricII: sounds great. I would love to try it out. If you wouldn't mind email it to me at elinenbe at umich dot edu 17.38.13 # hi 17.38.39 # i just read on the feature-request page that enqueueing of files is supported already, but i was not able to figure out how it works (firmware 2 days old now) 17.39.03 # Nibbler: when browsing press on and play at the same time. 17.39.12 # a quick screen will come up. 17.39.31 # heh, not easy to find out about all those nice new features :] 17.39.35 # ty 17.39.53 # thats where I removed 'delete' and added 'append' & 'insert' 17.41.01 # elinenbe: also answered my other question "how to axx file-operations" :) 17.41.30 # ric: sounds nice, and more logical to have the queue functions at one place, and not mixed with deletion of file :) 17.41.43 # ricII: I like that alot. 17.41.49 # ricII: so much! :) 17.42.04 # well, I have to go now -- off to LinuxWorld! 17.42.11 # ricII: but with your patch applied shuffling is disabled at all? 17.42.16 # hf elinenbe 17.42.41 # if I could only understand why my settings aren't saved (works in the sim) 17.43.35 # i'm too n00b to understand this all :| 17.44.02 # but i think i'll hear embedded systems lessons next semester :D 17.44.17 # Nibbler: did do anything for it, so resume would shuffle wrong in any case & append just puts it at the end.. 17.44.20 # ricII: if you look at the latest bookmarking patch by benjamin, then you can see how he uses files to save his settings. 17.44.26 # s/did/didn't 17.45.37 # it sould be stored in the rtc (where queue info was stored) 17.47.26 # i c 17.47.47 # oh 17.48.04 # with current shuffling it is not possible to create a reasonable playlist 17.48.19 # as all files from the first directory are always appended at the end? 17.48.36 # s/shuffling/queueing 17.49.18 # yes, just because I didn't look into it. I have a stragegy in mind... 17.50.28 # for shuffle that is.. 17.53.55 # considering shuffle queue building is not as trivial as i thought it might be 17.55.26 # the realy hard part is mid-play shuffle in a partial dynamicly build playlist.. 17.56.08 # which ofcourse needs the be reconstructed on resume.. 17.56.11 # hmmmm, i guess the build queue is stored in some temp. file or smth 17.56.36 # yes kinda like the .queue file 17.56.53 # but where is the difference to not-mid-play (so at beginning of play) shuffle in partial dynamicly build playlists? 17.56.59 # yep thought so... 17.59.26 # mid-play-shuffle shuffles my memory :) 17.59.42 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 18.00.26 # your memory or your jukebox' memory? 18.00.54 # (both :) ) not the file, but I could save the shuffle position .... 18.02.49 # maybe i see this too-simple, but why not just take the currently played track as track1 of the shuffled list and shuffle the other files just somehow normall :] 18.04.28 # if I want the append to work like just put it somewhere after the playing song (in shuffle mode) I need to be able to restore this situation on resume 18.06.29 # i read that the playlist is reshuffled using the saved seed of the original shuffle 18.06.52 # but why not just save the resulting playlist of the shuffle/inserts/enqueues? 18.07.15 # 10.000 filenames ? 18.07.27 # on power down? 18.08.12 # with potentialy already empty batteries 18.11.18 # hrm, copress it, so its only 100k file 18.12.06 # 12mhz cpu, and I also need to read the filenames from disk 18.12.27 # not sure yet, if i enqueue a file in the current version, what is done? 18.12.37 # is there no .queue file modified for that? 18.12.58 # it filename is saved in /.rockbox/.queue 18.13.53 # append to it, queue index counters are incressed.. 18.14.14 Quit GreyShadow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.14.19 # offset is save in a seperate indices array.. 18.14.30 # offset = current track? 18.14.52 # no start position of filename (string) in .queue 18.15.10 # kk 18.15.56 # so with your patch, if u insert a track u have to rewrite whole .queue and also the offset file? 18.16.07 # as its not appended at the end 18.16.24 # no... it append to the file, but with some more info 18.17.18 # I call it .playlist.patches ... 18.17.54 # ah ic 18.18.06 # resume replays this file and uses the extra info to restore the indices 18.18.19 # and u do this as rewriting whole file would be too energy consumpting 18.18.40 # ? 18.19.12 # partly, it can also take a long time. I even don't truncate it limiting fragmentation 18.20.01 # I keep a pointer in rtc until where it's valid.. 18.20.23 # ej ric 18.20.36 # hi webmind, how is y'r hd? 18.21.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.21.58 # together with the current-index, seed orginal m3u (could be none) from rtc I sould be able to restore all 18.22.02 # kinda dead eh.. 18.22.24 # what is rtc (if not real time clock?) 18.22.53 # indeed but it has some extra memory witch is put to use by rockbox 18.23.10 # ah lol :] 18.24.14 # I even need to save less info than the original queing.. 18.25.17 # and much less memory for the playlist code 18.26.19 # well, then get shuffling done \o/ :] 18.27.13 # first I want to see normal resume working :( 18.29.38 # * Nibbler goes downloading the source... not hoping to understand anything :) 18.30.00 # ricII, u at vt100 this week ? 18.31.19 # maybe next Thu 18.32.58 # next? hmk 18.34.19 # 2 days 18.34.34 # comming.. 18.36.18 # ah k 18.36.27 # me there end of the day prolly 18.36.43 # ok 18.36.59 Nick ricII is now known as ricII|dinner (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) 18.43.07 # bye 19.08.20 Join GreyShadow [0] (Snak@adsl-209-204-188-244.sonic.net) 19.08.21 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.24.09 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 19.26.21 Nick edx`s is now known as edx (edx@pD9EAA10C.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.31.31 Quit GreyShadow ("going, going, gone.") 19.32.05 Join GreyShadow [0] (Snak@adsl-209-204-188-244.sonic.net) 19.36.48 Nick ricII|dinner is now known as ricII (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) 19.57.58 Join NibbIer [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 19.57.58 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.58.09 # i keep discon here :| 20.03.42 Join Guest [0] (jirc@c66.169.100.82.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) 20.04.13 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 20.05.26 # why is rtc data n0t loaded ? (I see the proper values in debug-rtc, they aren't set to 0xff) 20.13.23 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 20.13.59 Join jeff1 [0] (~jirc@pascalou.net1.nerim.net) 20.16.49 # hi all, one idiot question : can I format archos drive in NTFS ? would rockbox support it ? 20.16.59 # no 20.16.59 # 1) u can 20.17.04 # 2) rockbox wont support it 20.17.09 # hehe, right 20.17.16 # and so wont the archos soft 20.17.31 # you partition it and make the first partition fat32 for rockbox and have the other ntfs 20.17.39 # you can even 20.17.41 # only fat32 and MAC file system, so ? 20.17.49 # only fat32 20.17.50 # only fat32 at all 20.18.42 # ok thanks folk 20.19.44 Quit jeff1 ("Leaving") 20.21.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.26.41 # oo 20.26.47 # HFS support for rockbox ;) 20.27.20 # horible file system... 20.27.51 # lol 20.29.03 # * NibbIer wants rockbox to understand links 20.29.19 # there are no links in fat32 20.29.23 # well 20.29.26 # not really 20.29.30 # but .lnk files 20.29.33 # they're windows-weirdos 20.29.37 # i know 20.29.42 # nothing to do with fat32 20.29.47 # but a good fs has links 20.29.51 # and i want links :) 20.29.57 # as they are more than usefull 20.29.58 # we don't have a good fs :-) 20.30.02 # hehe 20.30.08 # shame on M$ 20.30.09 # well, post the patch! 20.30.19 # heh, i posted feature request today :D 20.30.31 # make it jornalin...g 20.30.37 # :] 20.30.51 # jfat32! 20.30.56 # :D 20.31.06 # not too many writes are done on my jukebox :D 20.31.12 # or is it fat33 as ext2 went ext3? ;-) 20.31.18 # hihi 20.32.05 # so ext3 is 3bit-fs? 20.32.31 # yeah, and ext2 was 2bit 20.32.37 # :þ 20.34.02 # 2bit is the mininum... 20.34.35 # or it would turn in a serial-port 20.34.39 # :) 20.35.03 # rofl 20.36.25 Quit kargatron (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 20.37.08 # could it be there was a load_settings() bug in cvs ~2week ago ? 20.37.42 # could be 20.38.19 # I see the settings in rtc but they arn't applied.. 20.38.51 # so didn't the code change and it obsoleted the old rtc? 20.38.56 # if they where rejected they sould contain 0xff not? 20.39.24 # why would they be oxff then? 20.39.29 # I don't think they would 20.40.12 # if ( !correct ) { init_config_buffer(); 20.40.23 # and that sets them to 0xff? 20.40.39 # wait, this isn't saved until I change something... 20.42.53 # but still changing the contrast sould save the hole block.. and they still there.. 20.43.51 # if I had the signal converters I would serial-mod my archos now.. 20.44.14 # yeah, that would indeed help understanding things 20.44.30 # simulator does it properly.. 21.08.31 # gotta go 21.08.31 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.08.33 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 21.31.07 # cu! 21.31.09 Part quel|out (""Eve's Avatar - Avatar's Eve"") 21.35.37 Join DotcuM [0] (~poop@196.32.149.105) 22.21.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.30.40 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.31.03 Quit DotcuM () 22.44.53 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 22.53.05 Join Psykosys [0] (~none@syr-24-59-74-123.twcny.rr.com) 22.59.41 Join DotcuM [0] (~poop@196.32.149.29) 23.02.02 Quit Psykosys ("« Ë×Çü®§îöñ » Info«v9.4.2» Released«August 10, 2002» Channel«#Excursion on") 23.02.02 Quit Nibbler ("rebooting") 23.05.24 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-181.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 23.24.42 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb- (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 23.24.43 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.24.53 Nick seb- is now known as nemo[-_-] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 23.25.39 Nick nemo[-_-] is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 23.49.50 Quit edx () 23.50.24 # grr, rtc signature bytes are wrong.. 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