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00.10.44 #       <MeRWiN> yho
00.12.06 #       <Zagor> hi
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00.15.52 #       <AcID83> hey does anyone know of a place where I can find a schematic for archos multimedia?
00.16.10 #       <Zagor> yeah, Archos Inc.
00.16.19 #       <Zagor> be polite ;)
00.17.00 #       <MeRWiN> Zagor: so what is the best way to go about finding the actual location of the voltage?
00.17.03 #       <Zagor> why do you think there are schematics available?
00.17.04 #       <MeRWiN> of the fm
00.17.19 #       <Zagor> MeRWiN: a multimeter between the battery poles
00.17.40 #       <MeRWiN> i mean in the software :-)
00.17.55 #       <Zagor> oh :)
00.18.41 #       <Zagor> why do you need it?
00.18.59 #       <Zagor> battery_voltage = (adc_read(ADC_UNREG_POWER) * BATTERY_SCALE_FACTOR) / 10000;
00.19.12 #       <AcID83> I don't think there are schematics I just was wondering
00.21.52 #       <MeRWiN> Zagor: It doesn't seem that the voltage is done correctly in the FM right now with rockbox... since it only works when the lcd backlight is on :)
00.22.16 #       <Zagor> MeRWiN: correct. that is because we don't know how the recorder works.
00.22.27 #       <Zagor> we don't even have a photo of it...
00.23.30 #       <MeRWiN> i can probably do that :P
00.23.36 #       <MeRWiN> can't be too hard to take apart
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00.28.43 #       <elinenbe> ricII: are you here?
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00.46.03 #       <elinenbe> langhaarrocker: hello there mate
00.46.20 #       <langhaarrocker> hi!
00.46.33 #       <elinenbe> how are things going?
00.47.02 #       <langhaarrocker> having trouble in the practise room with ground loops.
00.47.20 #       <elinenbe> langhaarrocker: you are wasting your time with that :)
00.47.29 #       <langhaarrocker> everything's humming and fuzzing
00.48.02 #       <langhaarrocker> it's worse: my fellow band members waste _my_ time with that :)
00.49.19 #       <langhaarrocker> And they are complaining that I'm not fast enough.
00.51.15 #       <ricII> here now elinenbe
00.51.47 #       <Jet8810> do they even make 2400 mah AA nimhs?
00.51.59 #       <Nibbler> 2400??
00.52.07 #       <Jet8810> yes
00.52.11 #       <Nibbler> w000t
00.52.13 #       <Jet8810> that is the highest setting in rockbox...
00.52.22 #       <Jet8810> I couldnt find any higher then 2100 though
00.52.23 #       <langhaarrocker> maybe they _label_ them 2400 mAh ...
00.52.24 #       <Nibbler> oh, i thought there are some available... 
00.52.27 #       <Jet8810> and thats what I got in the mail today :)
00.52.28 #       <Nibbler> :]
00.52.55 #       <ricII> but I had a rough day, and only 4h sleep last nigth
00.52.55 #       <Nibbler> ricII: how is your playlist thingy doing?
00.53.00 #       <Nibbler> the queue
00.54.26 #       <ricII> it seems to work just have to write a little more sorting code.
00.57.57 #       <ricII> and maybe I can take a sortcut  there later.. (optimize)
00.58.44 #       <langhaarrocker> I'm leaving now - don't cry: I'll be back tomorrow :)
00.59.01 #       <ricII> an other posible intresting side effect could be queue shuffle..
00.59.42 #       <ricII> press shuffle (posible unshuffle before) and the queue can be shuffled aswell
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01.07.16 #       <Nibbler> :)
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01.36.13 #       <ricII> config_block 0xF4 (int) Playlist first index , is only used for dirplay ?
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02.01.49 #       <Stephen> Hey
02.02.55 #       <Stephen> can I ask a question?
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03.08.25 #       <hardeep> ricII: first index is used for both dirplay and playlist... it identifies the first song in the playlist so that repeat off is handled correctly
03.09.59 #       <hardeep> ricII: strike that... index is always 0 for playlists so yeah, it's really only important for dirplay
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03.32.31 #       <jedix> hey
03.32.46 #       <jedix> does anyone have the new player that plays divx as well as mp3s?
03.37.25 #       <elinenbe> ricII: are you still around?
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05.04.15 #       <Nexus> hey all
05.04.46 #       <Nexus> ^allo?
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05.33.45 #       <Nexus> anywone here?
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05.37.43 #       <Nexus> heyyy??
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05.38.33 #       <Nexus> i'm a full blown noobie and had a question
05.38.36 #       <Nexus> :)
05.38.54 #       <Nexus> i own a studio jukebox 20 and really ereally wanna install rockbox
05.39.04 #       <Nexus> and try it out cz i'm sick of the original one
05.39.20 #       <Nexus> and am having probs with my jukebox recognizing it
05.40.16 #       <tantus> Nexus:  do you use linux?
05.42.39 #       <meshuga> yo
05.42.49 #       <meshuga> wheres the recording function under the rockbox?
05.42.50 #       <Nexus> hey'
05.42.55 #       <meshuga> i downloaded the target build and i cant find it
05.43.05 #       <meshuga> plus it still says '1.4'
05.43.14 #       <PsycoXul> meshuga: download a daily
05.43.22 #       <meshuga> target builds arent?
05.43.26 #       <meshuga> it said 1-27-03
05.43.30 #       <Nexus> no tantus
05.43.33 #       <PsycoXul> heh
05.43.36 #       <Nexus> xp
05.43.37 #       <PsycoXul> 'daily builds' are
05.43.42 #       <PsycoXul> target builds could be anything
05.43.48 #       <PsycoXul> the archos is the target
05.43.49 #       <PsycoXul> :p
05.43.57 #       <meshuga> oh ok
05.43.59 #       <meshuga> i'll try that
05.44.00 #       <PsycoXul> target build is as opposed to simulator
05.44.01 #       <meshuga> so sup man
05.44.05 #       <meshuga> arent you from #linuxwarez on efnet?
05.44.13 #       <PsycoXul> heh
05.44.15 #       <PsycoXul> yeah
05.44.18 #       <meshuga> your nick looks soo familiar
05.44.19 #       <meshuga> aight
05.44.25 #       <PsycoXul> yeah
05.44.28 #       <PsycoXul> i remember you sorta
05.44.37 #       <PsycoXul> your nick anyway
05.44.38 #       <PsycoXul> heh
05.47.04 #       <meshuga> where would the recorder function be located?
05.47.24 #       <PsycoXul> no clue, i only have a player
05.47.24 #       <PsycoXul> heh
05.47.26 #       <meshuga> i downloaded 'bleeding edge'
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05.49.54 #       <tantus> I found a recording bug.  If you try recording another track before the machine finishes writing you get a 'recording panic' message
05.50.18 #       <meshuga> tantus : wheres the recording function in the archos located?
05.50.23 #       <meshuga> i got bleeding edge rockbox on
05.50.33 #       <meshuga> and i cant find it under the menu that has games, info, system settings etc.
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05.51.07 #       <tantus> meshuga:  in the menu, are you sure you copied it?
05.51.12 #       <meshuga> yea
05.51.13 #       <meshuga> OH
05.51.23 #       <meshuga> it needs to be in .rockbox and not ajbrec.gz in / ?
05.51.29 #       <tantus> no
05.51.44 #       <tantus> in /
05.51.48 #       <meshuga> hm i did that
05.51.49 #       <PsycoXul> it should be ajbrec.ajz in /
05.51.50 #       <meshuga> i'll try again
05.51.54 #       <meshuga> yea i did that
05.51.56 #       <PsycoXul> not .gz :p
05.52.02 #       <meshuga> oh ok
05.52.12 #       <tantus> meshuga:  make sure you unplug all cables then turn it off then on again?
05.52.27 #       <PsycoXul> yeah of course you gotta reboot it
05.52.40 #       <PsycoXul> or select the file in rockbox if rockbox is already running to ROLO it
05.54.03 #       <meshuga> hm ok deleted the file
05.54.53 #       <meshuga> ohh
05.54.57 #       <meshuga> i didnt try lcicking on it
05.55.00 #       <meshuga> ill do that again
05.55.07 #       <meshuga> should i have to delete .rockbox?
05.55.18 #       <PsycoXul> no
05.55.34 #       <tantus> hmm, neodymium magnets in earbud headphones arent going to screw with the hard drive, do you think?
05.55.52 #       <PsycoXul> tantus: i'm pretty sure it's sheilded
05.56.17 #       <PsycoXul> tantus: HD's actualy have a NIB magnet in them for the head guidance
05.56.42 #       <PsycoXul> and it seems to be sheilded well enough that nothing sticks to my archos
05.56.44 #       <PsycoXul> so heh
05.56.50 #       <meshuga> ok
05.57.06 #       <meshuga> so everytime i try to put a new ajbrec.ajz on, it replaces itself w/ the old one
05.57.15 #       <PsycoXul> uh
05.57.16 #       <PsycoXul> what?
05.57.17 #       <PsycoXul> heh
05.57.25 #       <PsycoXul> you're using linux right?
05.57.29 #       <meshuga> no win32
05.57.32 #       <PsycoXul> oh
05.57.37 #       <meshuga> my linux boxen is broke
05.57.45 #       <meshuga> hm ok
05.57.46 #       <PsycoXul> well you ejecting or 'safely removing' the device before you unplug it?
05.57.51 #       <meshuga> oh no
05.57.51 #       <meshuga> hahah
05.57.57 #       <meshuga> i should try that
05.58.00 #       <PsycoXul> :p
05.58.03 #       <PsycoXul> yeah you gotta umount it
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05.58.10 #       <PsycoXul> or the changes don't get commited
05.58.18 #       <tantus> PsycoXul:  are you a developer?
05.58.24 #       <PsycoXul> tantus: not really no
05.58.32 #       <PsycoXul> i've sent in a patch or 2, thats about it
05.58.42 #       <tantus> ahh
06.01.42 #       <meshuga> nice!
06.01.58 #       <meshuga> man, dont get stoned and then try to follow directions over the fone
06.02.14 #       <meshuga> i wasnt even aware of a recorder function in rock until a friend called me
06.02.18 #       <meshuga> cuz his sister has one
06.02.25 #       <meshuga> and asked me 'if the recording function works well'
06.02.26 #       <PsycoXul> heh
06.02.49 #       <tantus> that is why it says recorder on the front
06.02.57 #       <meshuga> no, in rockbox.
06.03.01 #       <PsycoXul> :p
06.03.12 #       <meshuga> now, to get my asterisk working proper
06.03.15 #       <meshuga> and i'll be a happy camper
06.08.00 #       <meshuga> tantus : does the archos record stereo?
06.09.25 #       <tantus> yep
06.11.54 #       <meshuga> sweet
06.11.58 #       <meshuga> perfect for bootleggin shows
06.12.01 #       <meshuga> cant wait now
06.12.02 #       <PsycoXul> hehe
06.12.08 #       <meshuga> thanks i'm headin out
06.12.12 #       * meshuga throws minidisc in garbage
06.12.18 #       <meshuga> i hate atrac4 anyways
06.12.25 #       <PsycoXul> yeah i'm gonna take my player into bestbuy and see if they'll replace it with a recorder
06.12.32 #       <meshuga> atrac24life!
06.12.39 #       * meshuga throws up handsigns
06.12.42 #       <meshuga> nice
06.12.44 #       <meshuga> just buy one
06.12.46 #       <meshuga> and then return it
06.12.50 #       <meshuga> bestbuy is incomoptent
06.12.52 #       <PsycoXul> heh
06.12.54 #       <meshuga> when we got our 200gig last week
06.13.00 #       <meshuga> they didnt even call to verify price
06.13.02 #       <PsycoXul> well i got a service plan on it
06.13.11 #       <meshuga> yet for the pioneer dvdr staples bitched hardcore and took an hour
06.13.19 #       <meshuga> and compusa took 20mins pricematching to bestbuy
06.13.21 #       <meshuga> it was a pain
06.13.22 #       <PsycoXul> heh
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07.10.48 #       <adi|home> did anyone else get a pm from Nexus asking for helping installing rockbox?
07.17.41 #       <PsycoXul> gnot that eyem uhware ov
07.24.54 #       <adi|home> lol
07.24.58 #       <adi|home> you beating off or something?
07.25.18 #       <PsycoXul> no
07.25.29 #       <adi|home> then nice typig
07.25.46 #       <PsycoXul> that wasn't the typing
07.25.48 #       <PsycoXul> just the spelling
07.25.52 #       <PsycoXul> see the g is silent in gnot
07.26.13 #       <PsycoXul> like it is is gnue
07.26.15 #       <PsycoXul> gnu even
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08.08.08 #       <Bagder> morning
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08.15.41 #       <Nexus> hey all
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08.15.58 #       <Nexus> i'm back wiv another Q  :-)
08.16.02 #       <Bagder> shoot
08.16.40 #       <Nexus> i finally managed to get rockbox installed......is it supposed to support a connection with the jukebox on XP without having to reboot caz it's not on mine (OS XP PRO)
08.17.04 #       * Bagder runs away at the mention of XP
08.17.07 #       <Nexus> lol
08.17.16 #       <Nexus> awwwwwwwww
08.17.20 #       <Nexus> me likey XP
08.17.27 #       <Nexus> i got some other OS but i like this one
08.17.38 #       <PsycoXul> what other OS
08.17.39 #       <Nexus> any ideas?
08.17.46 #       <PsycoXul> nope
08.17.49 #       <PsycoXul> works fine on my mom's box
08.17.52 #       <Nexus> hell i have a whole whack load
08.17.55 #       <PsycoXul> which is xp pro
08.17.59 #       <Nexus> i'm into ftpz so ;-)
08.18.44 #       <Nexus> i have: windows 95, 98SE, 2000 3 in 1, xp, xp corp SP1 integrated XP, XP 8 in 1
08.18.49 #       <Nexus> Lindows
08.18.51 #       <Nexus> 2 and 3
08.18.54 #       <Nexus> CE
08.18.55 #       <Nexus> lol
08.18.57 #       <PsycoXul> haha
08.19.02 #       <PsycoXul> sounds like a list of shit
08.19.07 #       <PsycoXul> sorry
08.19.07 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.19.17 #       <Nexus> :D
08.19.50 #       <Nexus> pyscho u're one of the eperts right?
08.19.53 #       <Nexus> *experts
08.19.56 #       <dwihno> Y'ello!
08.19.57 #       <PsycoXul> not really
08.20.02 #       <PsycoXul> i'm knowledgable, but no expert
08.20.04 #       <Nexus> kk
08.20.19 #       <Bagder> are there experts on xp? B-]
08.20.24 #       <Nexus> what kind of effects do temperatures have on the jukeboxes (studio 20)
08.20.30 #       <PsycoXul> i don't think he meant about xp
08.20.30 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.20.40 #       <Nexus> like here in canada it's been minus 30 degrees C
08.20.44 #       <PsycoXul> heh
08.20.49 #       * Nexus shivers
08.20.49 #       <PsycoXul> Nexus: i never had mine anywhere that cold
08.21.12 #       <Bagder> I usually have mine in a pocket close to my body when the temp is really cold
08.21.27 #       <Nexus> that's what i started doing when my LCD started fuking up
08.21.32 #       <Bagder> not that I've tried it in -30C
08.23.04 #       <Nexus> aight, well i'm gonna piss round with this new firmware
08.23.15 #       <Bagder> enjoy
08.23.15 #       <Nexus> thnx psy and bag
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08.35.08 #       <dwihno> Welcome back Zagor! :-)
08.35.22 #       <Zagor> greetings, friendling
08.35.34 #       <dwihno> greetings smeagol! :-D
08.35.39 #       <dwihno> SMEEAAAGOOOL!
08.36.30 #       <Zagor> renamed any directories lately? ,)
08.36.56 #       <dwihno> Hah
08.37.04 #       <dwihno> I don't trust your file code :-)
08.37.26 #       <dwihno> I tested the interface though, worked pretty nicely
08.38.00 #       <dwihno> How would you implement recursive deleting?
08.38.02 #       <Zagor> when did you become such a chicken?
08.38.06 #       <Zagor> I wouldn't
08.38.34 #       <Zagor> recursive delete is too powerful to have in rockbox, in my opinion
08.40.06 #       <Schnueff> not if there would be a trashcan :))
08.40.56 #       * Zagor smacks Schnueff
08.41.09 #       <Schnueff> ouch
08.41.21 #       <Zagor> now go wash your mouth with soap!
08.41.25 #       <Schnueff> cough
08.42.46 #       <dwihno> Zagor: Since I don't have a backup of my music files, I'm a bit cautious until I've freed the required disk space on my backup disk :-)
08.43.05 #       <Zagor> don't worry. dir rename works now.
08.45.47 #       <dwihno> Deleting as well?
08.46.11 #       <Zagor> no. but dir rename is turned off, so that's not a problem
08.46.15 #       <Zagor> dir remove, I mean
08.48.51 #       <dwihno> Even though the "blame Zagor" clause can be applied, it won't make disappeared files come back :-)
08.56.22 #       <dwihno> Zagor: heard anything from Linus?
08.56.37 #       <Zagor> nothing new
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09.03.35 #       <dwihno> Zagor: Tell him I said "hi"
09.04.29 #       <Zagor> yup
09.24.05 #       <Bagder> maybe we should rmove the Björn Stenberg part from the footer...
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09.24.31 #       <Zagor> Bagder: yes, I've been thinking about that. way too many people mail me for various issues.
09.24.54 #       <Bagder> yes, well it does give the impression that you do the pages
09.25.24 #       <Zagor> yes
09.41.55 #       <langhaarrocker> Is the wps broken? It seems that only the scrolling lines are updated when the track changes.
09.42.57 #       <dwihno> I would call it a optimization! :)
09.44.05 #       <langhaarrocker> Well, then the progress bar and peak meter still can be optimized. They're still working.
09.45.24 #       <dwihno> My WPS will lose the first line under some circumstances.
09.46.30 #       <langhaarrocker> well, that's it. Rockbox is a piece of sh*# and I revert to the archos firmware. And it's your fault. :)
09.47.42 #       <dwihno> :-D
09.47.49 #       * dwihno pours langhaarrocker some Steinlager
09.48.56 #       <langhaarrocker> Steinlager? Is that some kind of alcoholic drink?
09.58.39 #       <dwihno> It's yumyum beer.
09.59.25 #       <langhaarrocker> :( I musn't drink at work. 
10.02.44 #       <dwihno> I drink.
10.02.52 #       <dwihno> Water, pretty nice stuff actually
10.03.06 #       <dwihno> It provides excellent resistance against headaches.
10.04.40 #       <langhaarrocker> I'm allowed orange juice - unless it's old and fermented
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10.17.22 #       <dwihno> Orange juice? :-)~
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10.23.40 #       <langhaarrocker> but most of our computers are named after scottish whiskey brands
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13.03.01 #       <Zagor> Bagder: here?
13.03.12 #       <Bagder> nah, meeting coming up now, running away
13.03.25 #       <Zagor> ok
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13.35.54 #       <quel|out> Zagor: r u here?
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13.36.04 #       <Zagor> yes
13.37.27 #       <quel|out> just one question... can the sleep patch afect the runtime (in debug menu)? i mean the value that shows current runtime
13.37.45 #       <Zagor> no
13.38.05 #       <Zagor> the runtime uses the timer tick, which still occurs in the same frequency
13.38.34 #       <quel|out> then.. i must find why my runtime value has gone crazy
13.38.43 #       <Zagor> what does it say?
13.38.56 #       <quel|out> after listening to more than 2 hours of music.. just 10 minutes of runtime
13.39.18 #       <Zagor> strange
13.39.21 #       <quel|out> yea
13.39.34 #       <quel|out> i know.. and the only thing i changed was the sleep patch
13.42.04 #       * dwihno found 1800mAh batteries. Are those good?
13.43.29 #       <Zagor> dwihno: i've used them for a long time
13.44.02 #       <quel|out> i wanted to know runtime, because i have the feeling that my batt. last less now than before.. and that is impossible, if i use the sleep patch
13.44.05 #       <quel|out> :(
13.44.57 #       <Zagor> it appears the sleep patch kills the incrementation of current_tick. in that case, it's a bug. that can mess up play time display too.
13.45.18 #       <dwihno> Zagor: It gives a major powerboost?
13.46.31 #       <Zagor> dwihno: a bit, yes. i'd say an extra hour or two
13.47.26 #       <dwihno> Whoa!
13.47.59 #       <Bagder> I want a thorough test of that sleep patch
13.48.11 #       <Bagder> people are not paying attention, they just measure voltage
13.48.23 #       <Zagor> yes
13.48.29 #       <quel|out> Bagder: i wanted to see that
13.48.54 #       <quel|out> but.. i first thought of reading runtime using the patch and without the patch
13.49.08 #       <Zagor> Bagder: it seems the wps/scroll bug is that line #1 is somehow scrolled twice instead of line #2.
13.49.25 #       <Bagder> can you repeat it in wps?
13.49.30 #       <Zagor> yes
13.49.31 #       <Bagder> uh
13.49.34 #       <Bagder> in the sim I meant
13.49.40 #       <Zagor> oh. i'll check.
13.51.41 #       <quel|out> Bagder, Zagor is enough to play mp3 for.. let's say 2 hours with a rockbox (with and without sleep patch) and check the batt level decrement?
13.52.18 #       <Bagder> I'm more interested in getting to know other side-effects with the patch applied
13.52.30 #       <Zagor> like current_tick not being incremented...
13.52.36 #       <Bagder> like that, yes
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13.52.50 #       <quel|out> well. i can tell you that doesn't work
13.52.51 #       <Bagder> the run-time *will* improve, that is beyond doubt
13.54.15 #       <langhaarrocker> With the bleeding edge firmware my wps is complely broken: nothing updates besides the progress bar and the peak meter
13.54.17 #       <Zagor> Bagder: i get a crash!
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13.54.32 #       <Zagor> try this wps:
13.54.36 #       <Zagor> %sUB40
13.54.36 #       <Zagor> %sThe Best Of UB40  (Volume One)
13.54.36 #       <Zagor> %s10. 10 Please Don't Make Me Cry
13.54.36 #       <Bagder> crashes are good in the sim
13.55.24 #       <REBELinBLUE> Can I ask a question?
13.55.29 #       <Zagor> REBELinBLUE: sure
13.56.02 #       <REBELinBLUE> Does Rockbox work on the Jukebox FM Recorder, if not are there plans to support it in the future?
13.56.36 #       <Zagor> REBELinBLUE: it works a little. still very beta.
13.57.12 #       <langhaarrocker>  REBELinBLUE: your help is wanted :)
13.57.21 #       <REBELinBLUE> ah so it will in the future with any luck, I've heard it's causing problems cause it's a new system
13.57.32 #       <Bagder> you can say that
13.57.38 #       <Zagor> yes, there are many new things with it
13.58.29 #       <Bagder> we need fm users to join in and help
13.58.35 #       <REBELinBLUE> <langhaarrocker>  REBELinBLUE: your help is wanted :) -- how can I help?
13.59.36 #       <langhaarrocker> unsrew your recorder, make photos, grab a peeper and make some schematics
14.00.12 #       <quel|out> that will void your warranty, nearly for sure (but will help a lot)
14.00.57 #       <langhaarrocker> None of the core programmers seem to have a fm recorder. But they're real wizzards when they see a photo with a pcb of chips.
14.01.12 #       <REBELinBLUE> The first one I had broke after 2 weeks, I only got a replacement yesterday
14.01.15 #       <Zagor> Bagder: do you think we should have some 'webmaster' address in the footer, or just the mail list?
14.01.15 #       <REBELinBLUE> :D
14.01.34 #       <Zagor> maybe no address at all
14.01.41 #       <REBELinBLUE> if I was confident enough that I could, then I would
14.02.01 #       <langhaarrocker> did I really write wiZZard? I read to much Disc World stuff.
14.02.18 #       <quel|out> jajajaja
14.02.40 #       <quel|out> langhaarrocker: you should stop reading that kind of books :)
14.03.13 #       <Bagder> Zagor: you could have a link to some kind of "about" page perhaps
14.03.17 #       <langhaarrocker> "you can calculate nearly anything if you just can get enogh bugs into it" (Hex)
14.04.33 #       <Bagder> I was at a meeting for 46 minutes and I received 42 mails during that time...
14.04.46 #       <Zagor> Bagder: how many were my SF updates? ;)
14.04.55 #       <Bagder> most of them
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14.08.33 #       <Zagor> doesn't %pb work on players?
14.13.16 #       <quel|out> SF?
14.13.35 #       <Bagder> sourceforge
14.13.43 #       <quel|out> ah
14.13.43 #       <quel|out> :)
14.13.45 #       <quel|out> oki
14.15.41 #       * Bagder has noticed Zagor is doing the spring cleaning of the bug database
14.16.06 #       <Zagor> yeah
14.16.07 #       <dwihno> Spring already?
14.16.11 #       <dwihno> Yay for Z!
14.18.17 #       <Zagor> Bagder: are you looking at the display bug?
14.18.26 #       <Bagder> yes
14.18.30 #       <Zagor> ok
14.18.38 #       <Zagor> can you repeat it?
14.18.49 #       <Bagder> I got the crash and I'm working on that first
14.18.57 #       <Bagder> now, another meeting :-(
14.18.59 #       <Zagor> good
14.19.02 #       <Zagor> bad :)
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14.25.42 #       <dwihno> Zagor: when will the next devcon occur? :)
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14.26.51 #       <Zagor> good question
14.27.53 #       <dwihno> With quelsaruk, talking about spanish issues ;-)
14.31.51 #       <quel|out> um.. and where?
14.32.31 #       <dwihno> Stockholm! :D
14.32.45 #       <quel|out> 'cause i'm just going to sweden once in my life (too cold for me) and i'm going from 23-Feb to 3-March 
14.32.54 #       <quel|out> :P
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14.33.46 #       <quel|out> btw.. where in the source code is the charging stuff?
14.35.30 #       <quel|out> umm...
14.35.32 #       <quel|out> i found it
14.35.33 #       <quel|out> :)
14.40.17 #       <quel|out> lunch time, cu later
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14.42.01 #       <dwihno> WHOA!
14.42.03 #       <dwihno> HE'S BACK!
14.42.07 #       <LinusN> :-)
14.42.07 #       <dwihno> Welcome back Linus!
14.42.12 #       <LinusN> not really back...
14.42.23 #       <LinusN> just visiting
14.42.24 #       <dwihno> Just a quick visit then ... ?
14.42.24 #       <LinusN> :-)
14.42.25 #       <langhaarrocker> at least present in some way
14.42.57 #       <LinusN> did anybody have an idea why some posts on the list appears twice?
14.43.10 #       <LinusN> i didn't have that problem until recently
14.43.24 #       <langhaarrocker> Never had that problem.
14.43.24 #       <langhaarrocker> will you enlighten us with your presence more regularily in future
14.43.42 #       <LinusN> langhaarrocker: not in the immediate future
14.43.47 #       <langhaarrocker> :(
14.44.24 #       * LinusN is talking in the phone
14.44.57 #       <langhaarrocker> I suffer a major Linus - widthdrawel
14.45.16 #       <dwihno> Me too! :( How are you supposed to talk about kebabs' and other vital stuff when he's not around?! :)
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14.51.20 #       <LinusN> med starka såsen på!!!
14.51.46 #       <dwihno> You bet.
14.52.04 #       * dwihno hasn't had any kebab in honour to your absence.
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14.52.26 #       <fraggle1> hi folks
14.52.30 #       <LinusN> both i and my wife are on sick leave, and haven't gotten any money since november... :-(
14.52.43 #       <LinusN> fraggle1: hi
14.52.47 #       <fraggle1> i have a problem with the recorde
14.52.59 #       <LinusN> fraggle1: naaaah, i don't believe you :-)
14.53.09 #       <dwihno> LinusN: That truly sucks! :-(
14.53.12 #       <fraggle1> have a via-usb2.0- card PROPERLY installed, finally
14.53.28 #       <LinusN> fraggle1: victory!
14.53.37 #       <fraggle1> but recorder works only in usb1-mode
14.53.49 #       <fraggle1> have only 900kps :(
14.53.52 #       <LinusN> windows or linux?
14.54.06 #       <fraggle1> winxp+sp1
14.54.15 #       <dwihno> fraggle1: sounds like you have the wrong (or no) drivers
14.54.26 #       <dwihno> It can't be properly installed if you still got USB1-mode
14.54.30 #       <LinusN> fraggle1: everybody speaks about using the Cypress drivers
14.54.43 #       <fraggle1> installed the drivers from archos-hp: 5.04
14.55.00 #       <LinusN> d/l them from the cypress site
14.55.25 #       <fraggle1> whats the exact link?
14.55.44 #       <dwihno> LinusN: even with a correctly installed USB2 card, you need additional drivers?
14.55.48 #       <LinusN> i dunno, i have never done it ;-)
14.56.00 #       <Zagor> dwihno: windows always needs more drivers
14.56.00 #       <fraggle1> yeah i can't believe it , too
14.56.09 #       <fraggle1> xp should not
14.56.41 #       <LinusN> fraggle1: why wouldn't xp need drivers?
14.56.44 #       <dwihno> Zagor: even for each USB2 device? that sounds sucky!
14.57.03 #       <LinusN> dwihno: it depends on the device
14.57.12 #       <Zagor> dwihno: i don't know. i never use windows.
14.57.23 #       <fraggle1> with sp1 it SHOULD work from the start
14.57.35 #       <LinusN> fraggle1: oh, i wouldn't know...
14.57.59 #       <LinusN> i actually run XP now, but only USB1
14.58.05 #       <LinusN> on my laptop
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14.59.15 #       <kargatron> Zagor, how is the bookmark code inspection going?  i am loving the functionality.
14.59.32 #       <dwihno> Zagor: I mean, I used my archos on a USB2 powered 2k box a couple of weeks ago. Worked flawless!
14.59.41 #       <Zagor> kargatron: so so. i don't like the solution
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15.00.01 #       <kargatron> the code implementation, or the functional implementation?
15.00.33 #       <Zagor> both, actually. the code isn't very elegant, and the functional implementation is too complex
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15.00.55 #       <Zagor> but I'll fix it. no point arguing any more about it.
15.01.40 #       <kargatron> no, i was just wondering how divergent the dailies and bookmark builds would get, is all.
15.02.19 #       <fraggle1> could somebody give me the link to cyprss, ican't find it
15.05.03 #       <fraggle1> found it finally, is it the "windows mass storage driver v5.16"?
15.05.12 #       <Zagor> fraggle1: sounds right
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15.08.15 #       <fraggle1> thnx, but jukebox is not mentioned ther, shouldnt be a problem, right?
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15.09.48 #       <Zagor> fraggle1: they don't make the jukebox. they just make the chip.
15.10.02 #       <LinusN|busy> fraggle1: no, jukebox is just one of many devices using the cypress chips
15.15.42 #       <fraggle1> the name in device manager is the same as before, hope it works
15.16.40 #       <fraggle1> "usb storage adapter V3 (TPP)"
15.17.01 #       <kargatron> Zagor, bad genre tag file back again.
15.17.16 #       <Zagor> kargatron: good. thanks.
15.17.33 #       <kargatron> my webserver lost all data last month :-/
15.17.34 #       <fraggle1> what is your jukebox called in deviceman.?
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15.23.41 #       <Zagor> the bookmark patch is hard-coded to only work on recorder...
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15.31.45 #       <Zagor> corrupting the resume info is a Really Bad Idea
15.32.26 #       <Bagder> that's why we can't trust the general people's judgements on whether to apply patches or not ;-/
15.36.47 #       <Zagor> wheee. cascaded, unbroken 'case' statements. I bet his unit behaves pretty funny when loading .cfg files...
15.37.56 #       <Bagder> http://www.contactor.se/~dast/ikrek.jpg
15.38.14 #       <Zagor> how is one supposed to use matsl new emacs file, anyway? it doesn't say...
15.38.28 #       <Bagder> use the sample.emacs
15.39.26 #       <Bagder> works nicely for me
15.40.03 #       <Zagor> ah, I didn't that file. good
15.40.09 #       <Zagor> didn't see
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15.45.47 #       <dwihno> Welcome back, Mr. Sidhu!
15.45.56 #       <hardeep> morning. :)
15.53.48 #       <Bagder> what about an official feature-freeze for v2.0 soon?
15.54.29 #       <LinusN|busy> Bagder: no
15.54.39 #       <Zagor> LinusN|busy: why not?
15.54.41 #       <LinusN|busy> lots of recording stuff to do
15.54.58 #       <Bagder> is that really new features or completion of the existing?
15.55.02 #       <Zagor> yeah, but that's improvements in an existing feature
15.55.14 #       <LinusN|busy> more or less completion, really
15.55.30 #       <LinusN|busy> freeze, buster!
15.55.30 #       <Zagor> I'd like a basic playlist creation in 2.0
15.57.37 #       <Bagder> so perhaps a "these things in 2.0 but nothing else list"
15.57.42 #       <Bagder> or somethinh
16.00.10 #       <Zagor> yes, that's how I did in 1.4 if I recall correctly
16.00.32 #       <Bagder> I think it is good to narrow the focus a little
16.00.37 #       <Zagor> yes
16.00.54 #       <Zagor> i'm thinking playlist creation and bookmarks. anything else?
16.01.19 #       <dwihno> Stabilizing the WPS perhaps?
16.01.29 #       <Zagor> dwihno: that's a bug fix, not a feature
16.02.09 #       <dwihno> Zagor: Ah. Well, in that case, it would be nice with a one-line selection mode in the sound settings
16.02.27 #       <Bagder> "would be nice" is not good enough
16.02.28 #       <Zagor> dwihno: cosmetic nonsense
16.02.41 #       <Zagor> :-)
16.02.45 #       <dwihno> Baah!
16.03.00 #       <dwihno> WPS is just bull, why not screw the entire thing and shut off the display to save power? :-)
16.03.42 #       <Zagor> good idea!
16.05.32 #       <dwihno> Yup
16.05.37 #       <dwihno> Display shutdown timer!
16.09.18 #       <Zagor> actually display off is not a bad feature. some people get sound interference from the display update
16.10.46 #       <Zagor> so i'll call a feature freeze then
16.10.53 #       <matsl> could be synced with the backlight. No light. No display.
16.11.01 #       <Zagor> matsl: not a bad idea
16.11.35 #       <dwihno> Now show me the code(tm) :-)
16.12.24 #       <matsl> cu l8r
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16.12.41 #       <Zagor> dwihno: you scared him :)
16.13.07 #       <dwihno> It's my specialty! :)
16.14.04 #       * Bagder is puzzled
16.14.54 #       <langhaarrocker> No! Not a feature freeze! There's no new game yet and we _need_ a new game with each release!
16.15.09 #       <Bagder> we have a game we could add
16.15.20 #       <hardeep> that star game is pretty good
16.15.24 #       <Bagder> yes
16.15.30 #       <Zagor> anyone tried the flip game?
16.15.46 #       <langhaarrocker> not me.
16.17.10 #       * Bagder hits his head! aaaaaah
16.17.23 #       <Zagor> i like that sound
16.17.28 #       <dwihno> Add SNAKE!
16.17.29 #       <kargatron> for some reason i thought more games weren't to be added until they were modules 
16.17.30 #       <dwihno> SNAKE! :D
16.17.34 #       <dwihno> Me want snake!
16.17.37 #       <dwihno> Snake for president!
16.17.45 #       <Bagder> I found the crash
16.17.52 #       <kargatron> to avoid being too big
16.17.55 #       <Zagor> kargatron: yeah, that was the plan originally. we'll see... :-)
16.18.15 #       <dwihno> Zagor killed the snake! :( Just like homer did in the snakebash episode of the Simpsons! :
16.18.15 #       <Zagor> we need to sugar the release, or people will never upgrade! ;-)
16.18.51 #       <langhaarrocker> especially not with this sour feature of recording :)
16.19.36 #       <Bagder> prepare for commit
16.19.37 #       <dwihno> Then release it as 1.5... 2.0 will be a too big step without recording
16.20.03 #       <Zagor> dwihno: we will have recording
16.20.21 #       <Zagor> Bagder: excellent!
16.21.12 #       <dwihno> Zagor: how about the second most important feature? SNAKE! :D
16.21.55 #       <Zagor> i'm waiting for your module-loading patch
16.22.30 #       <dwihno> I'll provide you with a snake patch, if you want ;)
16.24.31 #       <Bagder> my wps works fine now
16.24.49 #       <Bagder> if you guys had a good way to make misbehave, try the latest
16.25.14 #       <dwihno> Ah, I'll test.
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16.25.18 #       <dwihno> What's changed?
16.25.39 #       <Bagder> there was a bug in how lcd_puts_scroll() set scroll info
16.26.07 #       <Bagder> which made the scroll thread scroll bad data at times
16.26.33 #       <dwihno> I'll test it rightaway, gimme a second.
16.28.25 #       <dwihno> Bagder: still bugs.
16.28.35 #       <Bagder> you build from source?
16.28.36 #       <dwihno> The first line disappears in my WPS.
16.28.50 #       <dwihno> nope, got the bleeding edge
16.28.58 #       <Bagder> its not there yet
16.29.04 #       <Zagor> it only builds every 20 minutes
16.29.07 #       <dwihno> ah
16.29.11 #       <dwihno> My bad :-/
16.29.16 #       <dwihno> I'll wait for a while then.
16.32.14 #       <Bagder> and hope that the cvs isn't playing any tricks
16.32.32 #       <Bagder> it sure is shaky these days
16.34.42 #       <Zagor> maybe bookmarks should even be pushed back to 2.1
16.34.47 #       <Zagor> it's a mess
16.35.07 #       <Bagder> personally I don't see them as necessary in 2.0
16.35.36 #       <langhaarrocker> But this time I'm innocent as far as the code mess is concerned. Really.
16.35.50 #       <Bagder> hehe
16.35.52 #       <Zagor> langhaarrocker: :-)
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16.39.11 #       <quel|out> i'm back
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16.40.40 #       <Zagor> LinusN|busy: will you have time to work on recording, or should someone else do that?
16.42.30 #       <quelsaruk> Zagor: if sleep affects to runtime_tick it could probably affect also charging_tick? or charging doesn't work this way?
16.42.53 #       <Zagor> charging doesn't use time. it uses voltage.
16.43.13 #       <quelsaruk> aham...
16.43.22 #       <quelsaruk> was just a quick thought
16.43.22 #       <langhaarrocker> What?! No time -> voltage converter?!?
16.43.59 #       <Zagor> only voltage->time 
16.44.00 #       <quelsaruk> i'm trying to guess all useful things that use ticks :)
16.44.29 #       <quelsaruk> don't trust me, i'm just bored 
16.44.35 #       <Zagor> i think we should change the default wps display to something more useful
16.44.48 #       <Zagor> i think dwino's top 3 lines are good
16.47.02 #       <kargatron> which are?
16.47.36 #       <Bagder> dwihno: go go go!
16.47.53 #       <Zagor> %s%?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(root)>>
16.47.53 #       <Zagor> %s%?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(root)>>
16.47.53 #       <Zagor> %s%?it<%?in<%in |>%it|%fn>
16.48.18 #       <quelsaruk> th first one is the route?
16.48.47 #       <kargatron> what's %in again?
16.49.00 #       <kargatron> mine's similar, not so anal, since i don't worry about root files
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16.52.06 #       <dwihno> Zagor: That's a sexy WPS! :D
16.52.13 #       <MeRWiN> so what's the token new freeze?
16.52.16 #       <MeRWiN> err
16.52.18 #       <MeRWiN> new game
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16.54.35 #       <Zagor> MeRWiN: i don't know. we should test the submitted ones and decide
16.54.57 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: i like that comment in the lcd-recorder.c update :)
16.55.03 #       <dwihno> Me too :-)
16.55.03 #       * Bagder bows
16.55.13 #       <kargatron> there's a feature request for %dN in the opposite direction, top-down.  is that under consideration?
16.55.14 #       <quelsaruk> how can all of u say i'm crazy
16.55.29 #       <kargatron> would prevent me from this crazy genre-faking line:
16.55.34 #       <kargatron> %?iy<%iy  >%?ig<%ig|%?d5<%d5:%d4|%?d3<%?d4<%d4:>%d3|%d2>>>
16.55.35 #       <kargatron> :)
16.56.16 #       <Zagor> kargatron: cute :)
16.57.18 #       <dwihno> Am I the only one wanting USB detection in the resume question screen?
16.57.27 #       <Zagor> yes :-)
16.57.59 #       <quelsaruk> dwihno: just to bother Zagor, i'm with u
16.58.08 #       <quelsaruk> i want it also
16.58.45 #       <quelsaruk> as i want the queue option *return to last directory* 
16.58.48 #       <kargatron> dwihno, you mean the problem resuming after you pull out USB?
16.59.18 #       <kargatron> that certainly affects me, otherwise, unfamiliar with what you're talking about
17.00.29 #       <dwihno> kargatron: not really, just when I power the unit on and wait for rockbox to boot
17.00.37 #       <dwihno> then I insert the cable
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17.00.44 #       <dwihno> and with the resuming, it will get fishy!
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17.02.51 #       <kargatron> is there any advantage to rockbox USB?
17.02.59 #       <MeRWiN> kargatron: nope
17.03.05 #       <kargatron> i only use rockbox usb if it's already on.
17.03.52 #       <Zagor> generally, computers have easier detecting the unit if you plug in the archos when it's already on.
17.04.08 #       <Zagor> otherwise the USB is there, but not responding for 10-15 seconds
17.04.30 #       <kargatron> i just mean, if my jukebox isn't already on, then i plug in the charger, than the usb
17.04.37 #       <kargatron> never saw a reason to let rockbox load
17.04.57 #       <kargatron> never noticed delay with that
17.05.10 #       <elinenbe__> What is the token new game?
17.05.14 #       <elinenbe__> that is all I care about!
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17.05.33 #       <elinenbe> I think it should eb the star game that has been in the patch queue forever.
17.06.16 #       <LinusN|busy> Zagor: i think i will find some time this week
17.07.41 #       <dwihno> Bagder: works like a charm! yay!
17.08.03 #       <Bagder> neato
17.08.27 #       <dwihno> Yay for B!
17.08.29 #       <dwihno> Yay for L!
17.08.32 #       <dwihno> Yay for Z!
17.08.48 #       <elinenbe> dwihno: yay for what?
17.09.17 #       <dwihno> Bagder, for fixing the WPS
17.09.23 #       <dwihno> Linus, for returning to us!
17.09.26 #       <Bagder> Zagor: works for you too?
17.09.35 #       <dwihno> and Zagor, for just being Zagor in his special kind of way :-)
17.09.58 #       <Zagor> LinusN|busy: excellent
17.10.06 #       <Zagor> LinusN|busy: can we get rid of the blinking then? :)
17.10.41 #       <LinusN|busy> no, that's done in hardware :-)
17.13.06 #       * Bagder drowns in email
17.13.38 #       <Bagder> 327 so far today
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17.13.45 #       <Bagder> and counting
17.15.30 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: you have a lot of secret admirers :)
17.15.45 #       <Bagder> yeah ;-)
17.16.37 #       <elinenbe> Bagder: at least you haven't gotten 380 spam messages today!
17.16.44 #       <Bagder> very true
17.16.56 #       <Bagder> I only get some 5-10% spam
17.17.45 #       <langhaarrocker> Is the wps in the bleeding edge supposed to work?
17.17.52 #       <Bagder> yes
17.18.01 #       <langhaarrocker> well - mine doesn't
17.18.22 #       <Bagder> never?
17.18.52 #       <langhaarrocker> It doesn't update anything but the peak meter and the progress bar.
17.19.08 #       <Bagder> on all songs?
17.20.11 #       <langhaarrocker> all songs. When I switch browser <-> wps the played time is updated. 
17.20.26 #       <Bagder> what does your wps look like?
17.20.32 #       <Zagor> gotta go. see you later.
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17.21.59 #       <langhaarrocker> stop. Maybe false alert: I found an mp3 that does change the wps. (excluding the time)
17.23.23 #       <langhaarrocker> my wps is:
17.23.23 #       <langhaarrocker> %s%fp/%fm
17.23.23 #       <langhaarrocker> %s%ia: 
17.23.23 DBUG    Enqueued KICK langhaarrocker
17.23.23 #       <langhaarrocker> %s%s%in %id
17.23.23 #       <langhaarrocker> %s%it
17.23.25 #       <langhaarrocker> %s%fb %fv%ff %fskb
17.23.27 #       <langhaarrocker> %s%pc/%pt/%pr %pp/%pe
17.23.29 #       <langhaarrocker> %pb
17.23.30 #       <langhaarrocker> %pm
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17.27.51 #       <elinenbe> my wps looks like this:
17.28.01 #       <elinenbe> langhaarrocker rules %pb
17.28.12 #       <elinenbe> langhaarrocker is the coolest %pm
17.28.20 #       <Bagder> :-)
17.28.25 #       <elinenbe> %s I think langhaarrocker is nice
17.28.46 #       <elinenbe> and hte %pb and %pm do not work properly on those lines :)
17.35.49 #       <Bagder> that must be the built-in langhaarrocker protection system kicking in
17.36.06 #       <Bagder> don't leave home without it
17.36.10 #       <elinenbe> I guess.
17.36.24 #       <elinenbe> Bagder: what game are you thinking of putting in?
17.37.00 #       <Bagder> the games await the loadable module system
17.38.01 #       <elinenbe> well, I was just referring to the emial.
17.42.15 #       <langhaarrocker> Some investigation produces: mp3s that have an image in the id3 tag don't update the wps. But mp3s with normal standard tags still don't make the %pc and %pr tags update.
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17.45.03 #       <Bagder> only those tags?
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17.48.26 #       <langhaarrocker> all tags do update when a track change occurs. But the %pc and %pr tags should update all the time.
17.48.51 #       <langhaarrocker> Maybe they're not compatible with %s any more?
17.50.32 #       <langhaarrocker> boss alert
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17.51.09 #       <Bagder> hehe
17.51.57 #       <Bagder> that repats in the sim
17.52.00 #       <Bagder> repeats
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17.58.07 #       <Bagder> langhaarrocker: I can repeat that problem in my sim
17.58.37 #       <langhaarrocker> so you have the langhaarrocker - protection built into the sim? :)
17.58.52 #       <Bagder> yeps
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17.59.35 #       <Bagder> I blame Kjell for this
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18.00.50 #       <Bagder> fixed
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18.09.43 #       <[SoT-HC]Lord|of|> hi
18.10.23 #       <[SoT-HC]Lord|of|> anyone home?
18.10.50 #       <Zagor> yes
18.12.32 #       <elinenbe> hold on, I am in the shower
18.12.33 #       <[SoT-HC]Lord|of|> how can i get the daily builds on my jukebox? i mean; i got all these folders in the file i've donwloaded, but what should i do with htme?
18.12.49 #       <elinenbe> ?
18.13.22 #       <[SoT-HC]Lord|of|> or am i totally wrong?
18.14.10 #       <elinenbe> [SoT-HC]Lord|of|: download the daily build at (for the recorder) http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-recorder/ajbrec.ajz
18.14.19 #       <elinenbe> and save that file to the root of your jukebox
18.14.36 #       <elinenbe> so, if you plug your jukebos into your ocmputer and your drive is E:
18.14.40 #       <elinenbe> then save that file to E:
18.14.52 #       <elinenbe> if it asks you to overwrite an older file, then that is okay
18.16.17 #       <[SoT-HC]Lord|of|> is it only 4 recorder?
18.16.56 #       <[SoT-HC]Lord|of|> i mean the stuff on this page: http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml
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18.17.31 #       <Zagor> no, for both
18.18.31 #       <[SoT-HC]Lord|of|> what are the source tarballs?
18.18.39 #       <Zagor> the source code
18.19.10 #       <[SoT-HC]Lord|of|> narf
18.19.21 #       <[SoT-HC]Lord|of|> :D
18.20.00 #       <[SoT-HC]Lord|of|> thx a lot guys
18.23.08 #       <[SoT-HC]Lord|of|> are the improvements of of previous target builds always included in the current one?
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18.26.55 #       <Zagor> yes
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18.50.18 #       <elinenbe> brb
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18.52.53 #       <dwihno> Zagor: You added USB connect in ask_resume! Yay! :D
18.53.03 #       <Zagor> dwihno: you're slow ;)
18.53.14 #       <dwihno> Zagor: Hey, I don't have internet at home! :-)
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18.53.33 #       * dwihno would love internet in the brevlåd, but it's too expensive!
18.54.34 #       <dwihno> I sense 2.0 not being too far away.
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19.04.07 #       <quelsaruk> back again, to cause pain in your brains :)
19.06.32 #       <quelsaruk> dwihno: do you know how does the "batt. icon animation" work?
19.06.44 #       <quelsaruk> there's something i always miss
19.09.14 #       <dwihno> quelsaruk: dunno, use the source, luke!
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19.10.02 #       <quelsaruk> i'm the dark side :P
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19.54.25 #       <Bagder> rehi
19.54.43 #       <hardeep> salut
19.54.47 #       <quelsaruk> re hi Bagder
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20.00.07 #       <Bagder> anyone has any more problems with the wps?
20.01.24 #       <quelsaruk> dunno
20.01.31 #       <quelsaruk> i'll check tonight
20.02.27 #       <Bagder> I'm feeling a bit guilty for those new bugs, thats why
20.02.38 #       <quelsaruk> i know
20.02.48 #       <quelsaruk> and i want to feel more guilty
20.02.52 #       <quelsaruk> want you
20.02.53 #       <quelsaruk> XD
20.02.56 #       <quelsaruk> i mean
20.02.57 #       <quelsaruk> :)
20.03.00 #       <Bagder> hehe
20.03.22 #       <quelsaruk> so until tomorrow you wont know if my wps works fine or not
20.06.14 #       <elinenbe> Bagder: what did you think about my email changing the quickscreens?
20.06.15 #       <Hadaka> umm, does rockbox work on FM Recorder yet?
20.06.47 #       <Hadaka> and.. well, should one get a recorder 20 or FM recorder 20 these days
20.07.39 #       <Bagder> it is starting to work
20.08.01 #       <quelsaruk> Hadaka: i had to answer that question 1 month ago, i wanted to buy my little brother one of those...
20.08.04 #       <Bagder> personally, I still vote on the regular recorder
20.08.30 #       <Hadaka> the FM recorder has special batteries? or?
20.08.33 #       <quelsaruk> and i bought a recorder 20. We can change batt.... 
20.08.38 #       <quelsaruk> a Li-Ion batt
20.08.52 #       <Hadaka> oh - well Li-Ion is generally pretty nice
20.08.54 #       <Bagder> Hadaka: non-replacable by yourself
20.08.57 #       <quelsaruk> rockbox dev. is stable in recorder...
20.09.08 #       <Hadaka> anything else different except for the obvious FM functionality?
20.09.32 #       <Bagder> 60 grams less :)
20.09.56 #       <quelsaruk> :)
20.10.12 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: that is not an improvement
20.10.29 #       <Bagder> you want it to be heavy?
20.10.44 #       <quelsaruk> if you want to throw it to your brother's head... if it is lighter.. it doesn't hurt
20.10.52 #       <Bagder> true
20.11.42 #       <quelsaruk> and also.. a heavy metal jukebox.. must be heavy
20.11.57 #       <quelsaruk> anything else is gayer...
20.12.09 #       <Bagder> no heavy metal here 
20.12.21 #       <Bagder> :)
20.12.22 #       <quelsaruk> i know, i'm the exception
20.12.28 #       <quelsaruk> every rule has an exception
20.12.39 #       <quelsaruk> :)
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21.04.23 #       <Nexus> can games be played on the studio 20?
21.04.25 #       <Nexus> player
21.04.27 #       <Nexus> not recorder
21.04.35 #       <quelsaruk> some of them
21.04.41 #       <Bagder> if someone writes any, they could be played
21.04.58 #       <Nexus> know of any?
21.05.28 #       <Bagder> nope
21.05.50 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: i think there is at least one in the patch tracker
21.06.01 #       <Bagder> there is?
21.06.03 #       <Bagder> ok
21.06.05 #       <quelsaruk> i think so
21.06.12 #       <quelsaruk> but i'm just a poor heavy
21.06.14 #       <quelsaruk> :)
21.06.17 #       <quelsaruk> don't trust me
21.06.37 #       <Bagder> hey, I
21.06.42 #       <Bagder> will just blame you ;)
21.06.49 #       <quelsaruk> :)
21.07.10 #       <quelsaruk> why don't you blame me for the WPS bugs??
21.07.25 #       <quelsaruk> i'm sure they were my fault
21.07.29 #       <quelsaruk> :P
21.07.29 #       <Bagder> hm, I might start doing that soon
21.09.53 #       <Nexus> guys i have a another question about batteries.   i have a creative set of NiMH batteries and it has an output of 1.2 V 1800mAH instead of the standard green ones (1500mAH)  will these creative ones still be oh k in it?
21.09.57 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: cvs diffing works?
21.10.33 #       <quelsaruk> yes Nexus... if they ar NiMH 1.2V will work fine ... and get maybe 1 extra hour
21.10.41 #       <Nexus> wicked
21.10.44 #       <Nexus> :D
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21.12.49 #       <Bagder> quelsaruk: not very good, no
21.12.51 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: i remember someone... some months ago.. talking in the mail list about a game for the player
21.13.13 #       <quelsaruk> but can't remember if he finished it.. of if he patched it
21.14.18 #       <quelsaruk> cvs is getting me crazy
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21.21.01 #       <Bagder> works now
21.21.18 #       <quelsaruk> i know
21.21.19 #       <quelsaruk> :)
21.23.09 #       <quelsaruk> let's see if my small patch works
21.23.10 #       <quelsaruk> :)
21.25.00 #       <quelsaruk> cu!
21.25.07 #       <Bagder> bye
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21.34.15 #       <Nexus> aight i'm off, thnx again bagder
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21.50.41 #       <Nexus> hey bagder........does rockbox work on the studio 20 p[layer if i reformat it to NTFS?
21.50.45 #       <Nexus> or does it have to be fat32
21.52.16 #       <Bagder> it can only boot on fat32
21.52.21 #       <Bagder> gotta go
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22.12.50 #       <elinenbe> hello.
22.12.54 #       <elinenbe> hi ricII
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22.16.49 #       <elinenbe> Zagor: you are finally back!  woo!
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22.19.11 #       <Zagor> and so you went out :-)
22.23.32 #       <Zagor> Holger is my new best friend...
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22.27.14 #       <mecraw> Is that being said in the "voice of a developer"?
22.31.37 #       <Zagor> i can't figure out what that means :-)
22.32.54 #       <mecraw> I can't either and my english is pretty good :)
22.39.26 #       <ricII> hi elinenbe
22.39.50 #       <ricII> didn't have time to work on the code  :(
22.42.05 #       <hardeep> Zagor: we already have basic playlist creation... Queue+Rename! =)
22.42.33 #       <Zagor> hehe, yeah. tell that to the whole-disk-shuffle crowd :-)
22.42.45 #       <hardeep> ricII: you're getting your priorities all mixed up again....  Rockbox is by far the most important thing
22.42.54 #       <ricII> hehe 
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22.44.45 #       <ricII> I already hardly sleep (~4h) with my gf in the hospital, new position at work etc etc
22.46.32 #       <kargatis> the workaround for getting recursive playlists for every directory is so trivial now i don't understand peoples' urgency about dynamically doing so
22.48.03 #       <Zagor> i think it's simply because people forget making them while they are connected to the pc.
22.49.14 #       <kargatis> i guess if people update their contents a lot, i can see that being an issue
22.49.44 #       <kargatis> i basically go thru the entire contents once before updating, so don't change very often. :)
22.52.45 #       <Zagor> anyway, the code to create a playlist is very simply
22.52.51 #       <Zagor> i'm writing it now
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22.54.23 #       <ricII> you can't queue playlists...
22.54.56 #       <ricII> my dynamic playlist code uses 140k less...
22.55.16 #       <Zagor> 140k less than what?
22.55.24 #       <ricII> code there now
22.56.05 #       <Zagor> what is using 140k today?
22.56.38 #       <ricII> the playlist_buffer + queue_indices
22.57.23 #       <Zagor> playlist buffer is 40k. queue indices are 100k??
22.58.00 #       <ricII> oo filenamelengt ... (I was thinking 260, path..)
22.58.04 #       <hardeep> queue indices are 400 bytes
22.58.27 #       <ricII> only 100 queue places?
22.58.38 #       <hardeep> in current implementation, yeah
22.59.37 #       <ricII> ok I must have overread some things..
23.01.05 #       <ricII> I use 2 high bits from the indices as flags and store secondairy info in a patchfile
23.03.04 #       <ricII> for resume and filename lookup.. nomore playlist_in_ram
23.04.53 #       <ricII> featuring insert, append, delete, queue in playlist
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23.36.17 #       <elinenbe|out> ricII: how is your new playlist code coming?
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