--- Log for 07.02.103 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 18 days and 9 hours ago 00.05.42 Quit adi|work ("[x]chat") 00.05.51 Join adi|work [0] (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 00.08.08 Part kargatron 00.14.20 Quit edx () 00.19.36 # Snorlax: he doesn't 00.19.37 # why>? 00.29.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.46.31 # just thought I got some indications earlier.. 01.00.42 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-203-53.bct.bellsouth.net) 01.02.29 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.10.50 Quit BoD[] ("enfin") 01.24.05 Join ErriCo_MaLaTesTa [0] (~awdyf@200.202.226.234) 01.44.38 Quit ErriCo_MaLaTesTa ("fui") 02.00.16 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 02.29.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.29.53 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 04.39.56 Quit adi|work (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.47.16 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 04.58.19 Quit hardeep ("[BX] The Borg use BitchX. 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Shouldn't you?") 05.41.50 Quit Schnueff (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.46.17 Join Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 06.03.54 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.29.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.33.02 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB8D7.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.05.14 Quit edx () 07.47.29 Quit Schnueff (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.47.29 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 07.47.29 Quit webmind (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.47.29 Quit eye69 (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.47.50 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 07.47.50 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 07.48.26 NJoin eye69 [0] (magnus@upcore.net) 07.49.11 NJoin webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 08.01.09 Quit Schnueff (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.01.09 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 08.06.11 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 08.06.11 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 08.29.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.56.10 Join stefan_ [0] (~stefan@gtso-d9bb8231.pool.mediaWays.net) 08.58.18 # morning 08.58.25 Nick stefan_ is now known as calpefrosch (~stefan@gtso-d9bb8231.pool.mediaWays.net) 08.58.38 # ricII: where can I find your pl-code ? 09.09.23 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp104.contactor.se) 09.16.19 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.16.58 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.28.07 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 09.28.13 # hi 09.28.21 # hi 09.30.05 # :) 09.31.56 # Zagor: when i try to compile the X11 simulator, make says "there's no rule to compile panic.c..." 09.34.18 Quit s0be (Remote closed the connection) 09.34.45 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.34.52 # good morning all! 09.34.57 # odd 09.35.56 # yups 09.42.35 # ok... 09.42.44 # that's repaired... 09.42.45 # but... 09.42.51 # this is really weird 09.42.52 # :) 09.44.59 # screenhack.h:28:22: warning: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory 09.44.59 # screenhack.h:29:27: warning: X11/Xresource.h: No such file or directory 09.44.59 # screenhack.h:30:21: warning: X11/Xos.h: No such file or directory 09.45.46 # doesn't matter.. 09.50.38 # moin 09.51.27 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.31) 09.53.43 Quit s0be (Remote closed the connection) 09.58.00 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.31) 09.59.50 Quit s0be (Remote closed the connection) 10.00.19 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.31) 10.00.49 Quit s0be (Remote closed the connection) 10.02.21 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 10.02.26 # SELECT /*+ first_rows */ 10.02.26 # t_se.mkz, t_se.se_id, cl.cl_id, 10.02.26 # col.external_key, cl.col_id, 10.02.26 DBUG Enqueued KICK calpefrosch 10.02.26 # txb_obj_id, txb_version, txt_obj_id, 10.02.26 # pic_obj_id, cl.pic_version, 10.02.28 # fil_obj_id, cl.fil_version, DATA, 10.02.32 # cl.pn_id, col.asset_type 10.02.33 # FROM t_se, 10.02.36 # t_fe, 10.02.38 # t_fedata, 10.02.41 # t_fecontentlink cl, 10.02.42 # uh? 10.02.44 # collection col 10.02.46 # WHERE t_se.pub_id = p_pub_id 10.02.49 # AND t_se.mkz = p_mkz 10.02.51 # AND t_fe.mkz = t_se.mkz 10.02.54 # AND t_fe.min_card = t_se.se_id 10.02.57 # AND t_fedata.se_id = t_fe.se_id 10.03.01 # AND t_fedata.mkz = t_fe.mkz 10.03.01 # AND t_fedata.pv_id = p_pv_id 10.03.05 # AND cl.sed_id = t_fedata.sed_id 10.03.07 # AND cl.mkz = t_fedata.mkz 10.03.09 # AND col.col_id = cl.col_id 10.03.12 # AND col.mkz = cl.mkz 10.03.14 # AND cl.col_id IS NOT NULL 10.03.18 # AND cl.txb_obj_id IS NULL 10.03.19 # AND cl.txt_obj_id IS NULL 10.03.24 Mode "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 10.03.26 # AND cl.pic_obj_id IS NULL 10.03.27 # AND cl.fil_obj_id IS NULL 10.03.27 # wrong window error, sorry 10.03.29 # big SQL 10.03.37 # hopefully nothing confidential :) 10.03.45 Mode "#rockbox +o Zagor " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 10.03.50 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 10.03.50 # * Bagder was this ---> <--- close to kick calpefrosch ;-) 10.04.04 Mode "#rockbox +o logbot " by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.04.05 DBUG Q-Sent KICK calpefrosch to server 10.04.05 Kick (#rockbox calpefrosch :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se 10.04.11 # hehe 10.04.11 # oops :) 10.04.28 # he's a tough bastard, he doesn't forget easily 10.05.43 Join calpefrosch [0] (~stefan@gtso-d9bb8231.pool.mediaWays.net) 10.05.47 # jajajajjaja 10.05.51 # wauuuu 10.05.54 # hmpf 10.06.11 >>> "action looks at calpefrosch" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.06.16 # Bagder: how close have you been anytime to kick me away? 10.06.38 # I have the urge all the time ;-P 10.06.50 # i must work harder then 10.06.52 # ;) 10.07.00 # * Bagder chuckles 10.07.18 # * calpefrosch has to seperate work from private ;-) 10.07.54 # its better to make your hobby your work 10.09.31 # yes, I treid 10.09.36 # Bagder: you did that.. and look at you now.... 10.09.42 # oh 10.09.45 # that's not a good idea 10.09.47 # that's a good argument ;-) 10.09.54 # :) 10.11.05 # * calpefrosch has to buy food... 10.11.23 # I cannot earn money with my hobby 10.11.49 # btw Bagder, next time you go to nerja, ask someone to explain you what does the "malafolla granaina" mean :) 10.12.23 # I promise 10.13.25 # coffee time 10.13.27 # see you later 10.13.37 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|coffee (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 10.17.49 Quit bobTHC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.30.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.30.48 # how should we start the playlist-viewer ? 10.31.06 # which key/menu ? 10.31.34 # I think we need to make one key-combo a kind of "act on this directory entry" screen 10.31.58 # but there are so many things you can do on a file. 10.32.19 # yes, but what's the alternative? 10.32.32 # a menu :-) 10.32.56 # like a context-menu ? 10.33.02 # the menu must be brought up from the dir browser 10.33.07 # when we have a file "selected" 10.33.16 # how else will be select which file it concerns? 10.33.24 # will we 10.34.07 # yeah, well we can still have a menu "file operations" that acts on the selected file. 10.34.20 # right, that's what I meant 10.34.34 # but you mean we go there with f1 as usual? 10.35.04 # yes, I think so. recorders could have a key combo too, but players probably can't 10.35.17 # why not just RIGHT on a playlist to browse it? 10.36.32 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.38.05 # second, should it display the playlist shuffled or not ? 10.38.39 # prepare for rearrange 10.38.57 # what do you mean ? 10.38.58 # 10... 9... 8... 7... 10.39.14 # read my latest mail 10.42.00 # * Zagor buckles up 10.42.22 # calpefrosch: you should probably have both options. 10.42.43 # the browser can be used for looking at what songs come next, in which case you must support shuffle. 10.42.52 # but for editing, it must support unshuffled too 10.43.46 Quit bobTHC (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.46.33 # seems to build still 10.52.58 >>> "convert 21 inches" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.53.33 >>> "convert 8 inches" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.55.04 >>> "convert 2 miles" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.55.09 Join kargatis [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-254.ath.forthnet.gr) 10.55.24 >>> "convert 10 rods" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.55.36 # * Bagder bows in the presence of kargatis 10.56.13 # * kargatis deserves no bowing. Perhaps a nod? 10.56.43 # * Bagder rises and nods ;-) 11.03.47 # hm 11.03.53 # we do export lots of stuff to the apps 11.05.39 # too much imho 11.06.23 # it'll be more obvious when I do my next commit 11.15.07 # now 11.15.11 # I think I'm fine 11.18.02 # Bagder: I think Mike was referring to the CVS-help page 11.21.31 # ok 11.21.32 # me fix 11.32.35 Join ken0 [0] (~marklar2@80.178.36.28) 11.33.53 # lunch 11.34.03 # not a bad idea 11.37.33 # first I gotta see the next build 11.42.23 # ah, better 11.43.58 Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.47.13 Join e-Jah [0] (~ejah@dyn-213-36-140-203.ppp.tiscali.fr) 11.47.43 # hi all 11.49.50 # rockbox support Archos Jukebox Multimedia plz ? 11.53.04 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/nodo.html#7 11.55.20 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 12.01.09 # oki, is there an other project for archos jukebox multimedia ? 12.07.02 # * e-Jah est allé: tv 12.17.00 # e-Jah: no 12.22.33 # rebooting 12.22.39 Nick quel|coffee is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 12.23.00 # hey Zagor, my coffees are as long as my lunches :) 12.23.20 # :-) 12.23.27 # do you ever work? ;) 12.23.37 # who? 12.23.38 # me? 12.23.54 # I'm spanish, not swedish 12.23.55 # :) 12.23.57 # lol 12.25.39 # cu l8r 12.25.45 # time to work hard 12.27.00 Quit quelsaruk ("Aplicación Saliendo") 12.30.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.30.30 # * e-Jah est de retour de tv après 23 mins 27 secs 12.30.46 # Zagor: ok thx 12.33.56 # e-Jah: there is a yahoo group where there was some discussion, but nobody really wanted to do anything, everyone just wanted someone else to do the work... 12.34.19 # zagor 12.34.22 # Zagor: arf 12.35.12 # Zagor: i would like help to develop something, but i haven't got the hardware knowledge to begin.... 12.35.38 # I tried to get them to at least open up the unit and take some photos, but nope. 12.35.38 # if someone can "break" the hardware, then ..... 12.37.03 # Zagor: after the archos company knows the rockbox and want to give the rockbox software with the device, they could give the info to them/us 12.37.24 # e-Jah: there are other problems, too. the Texas Instrument cpu is under strict NDA. 12.37.34 # ca.ö 12.37.49 # NDA ? 12.37.53 # calpefrosch: you wish. I have asked, they refuse. 12.38.15 # i could explode.. these .... argh 12.38.28 # e-Jah: Non-Disclosure Agreement. I.e you have to sign a contract not to reveal any details. Such as your source code. 12.38.54 # it sucks :/ 12.39.11 # yup 12.39.15 # but if we "discover' how it works ? 12.39.27 # i want the days back, when you get all information for a chip for free 12.39.30 # it's hard to "discover" a whole cpu 12.39.58 # actually, the cpu part is easy. that's just an ARM core. it's all the other things in the chip we need docs for. 12.40.42 # e-Jah: do you like the multimedia jukebox ? is it cool ? 12.41.02 # because it's the TI chip who does all (mp3, divx... decoding ) ? 12.41.17 # calpefrosch: yes i like it, i found it cool :) 12.41.34 # calpefrosch: but the Archos software for it .... sucks ;) 12.41.46 # do you watch movies on this small screen ? I thought it could be too small.. 12.42.08 # e-Jah: not mp3, but divx yes. 12.42.24 # yes, i think it's not too small...and you can put it on tv ;) 12.42.40 # ahh, that's cool 12.43.12 # Zagor: but in a first time it could be cool to do something juste fro the mp3 ... no ? or it is not possible ? 12.44.19 # e-Jah: it's very difficult, since the multimedia doesn't load firmware files. you need to burn in the new firmware, replacing the old... 12.45.07 # Zagor: hum, to update the archos firmware on multimedia you only put a file in the root directory... 12.45.07 # e-Jah: have you seen any mention of a procedure you can follow if a firmware update would fail? a sort of emergency exit? 12.45.35 # e-Jah: really? don't you need to explictly tell it to update? 12.45.43 # nop 12.46.20 # * Zagor searches archives 12.48.03 # Zagor: oups 12.48.07 # see that : 12.48.12 # 12.48.15 # 1. Drag-and-Drop the Archos Firmware file AJBM.ajz into Jukebox Multimedia Drive/Icon. 12.48.18 # 2. Safely disconnect unit from your Computer. 12.48.20 # 3. Turn the JBMM (Jukebox MultiMedia) power back on, press the SETUP key (F1), arrow 12.48.23 # down to SETTING and UPDATE FIRMWARE. Press on setup key F1 (YES) to confirm and upgrade. 12.48.27 # Once the upgrade is done, press any key to continue. 12.48.29 # 4. Restart JB, the new firmware version can be confirmed in the Menu, Setup, Settings and 12.48.31 # excactly 12.48.32 # Firmware Version. 12.48.33 # * e-Jah shut up ! 12.48.35 # 12.49.05 # what if the update fails? 12.49.16 # if you pull the power while it's running? 12.49.28 # Zagor: i search ... 12.54.28 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.31) 12.54.30 # maybe can we ask for that to their Support ? 12.55.00 # Hello, i've maid an update of the firmware but it has failed, how to return to the initial situation ? 12.55.04 # no ? 12.56.20 # yeah. but you probably need to be able to answer specific detailed questions. 12.56.44 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 12.57.04 # re-hi 12.57.28 Quit s0be (Client Quit) 12.57.35 # zagor, do you know the name of Thor's hammer? the nordic god.... i need it :) 12.57.40 # but to begin something, to test, if we know how to return to the initial situation it could be suffisent, no ? 12.57.46 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.31) 12.57.50 # e-Jah: yes 12.58.05 # * Zagor hands quelsaruk Thor's hammer 12.59.13 # Zagor: but to mail them i need some help....because my english is very poor, else i post the same line i have posted here ? ;) 13.00.36 # ha, they have a technical support in France :) 13.00.57 # i would assume so, since they are french :) 13.01.03 # i write a mail... 13.05.03 # ok, i have send it, now we must wait... ;) 13.06.57 # i don't need the hammer... just the name 13.07.26 # i know i'm a bit *strange*, but i thought you had assumed that :) 13.09.00 # oh. hmm, is it Mjölner perhaps? 13.09.22 # yup, that's it 13.09.40 # thx... 13.09.41 # :) 13.10.40 # and Odin's sword? just if you don't mind... my nordic mithology is a bit poor :) 13.10.48 # ok.. *too* poor 13.13.45 # uhm, I don't know 13.14.22 # don't worry 13.14.37 # it's not a matter of life or death 13.14.39 # :) 13.16.13 # He has a spear called Gungner. I can't find a name for his sword. 13.18.10 # it's something like valmunga or... something like that 13.18.12 Quit e-Jah (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.20.07 # it doesn't seem to be very important. only his spear is mentioned in most of the tales. 13.24.50 # umm.. about the isd200 unlock patch for linux 13.24.51 # Gungner is the important one no? 13.24.56 # :) 13.25.06 # thx Zagor :) 13.25.21 # does that thing work for recorder 20 as well - eg. isd300 chip? the isd200 driver isn't used there, only SCSI-over-BulkOnly 13.25.52 # quelsaruk: yes. Gungner is the weapon he uses when riding on Sleipner 13.26.10 # Hadaka: no, the isd200 patch only works for the isd200 13.26.59 # so.. can the recorder 20 even lock itself? or has this only been seen with isd200 using units? 13.29.58 # Hadaka: I don't know 13.30.06 # ookay 13.31.36 # I would expect the 20 to be able to get locked too, since it's the disk and not the archos 13.34.34 Join e-Jah [0] (~ejah@dyn-213-36-129-97.ppp.tiscali.fr) 13.35.20 Part Zagor 13.35.39 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 13.36.09 # offtopic: need a recomendation: I'm gonna buy a palmtop PC. 13.40.21 Part Zagor_ 13.40.43 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 13.40.51 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 13.41.31 Quit e-Jah ("leaving") 13.47.10 # http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net could be a good idea for the rockbox web site 13.50.27 # how to supply a repeat count for a command in emacs? 13.50.48 # sb knows? 13.51.51 # ^C-u 13.51.57 # thnx from a vim user :) 13.53.11 # i also use vim :) 13.53.25 # ...or just type meta-numbers 13.53.33 # Rustic men for President!!! 13.54.41 # i'm in #vim on a different server, i didnt want to ask there :) 13.55.11 # haha 14.07.12 Join ken0 [0] (~marklar2@80.178.34.155) 14.12.06 # I think I'll to add a "play whole disk" menu entry that simply creates a playlist and starts it. people will cheer that you don't need a playlist to play the whole disk... 14.14.24 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.37.32) 14.14.24 Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.15.20 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.37.32) 14.16.49 Quit ken0 (Remote closed the connection) 14.19.45 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.241) 14.20.32 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.30.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.39.18 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.35.68) 14.39.19 Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.47.31 # i have to go. cu 14.48.12 Quit calpefrosch ("leaving") 15.09.47 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.79) 15.09.47 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.37.47 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 15.42.00 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@Bdfe9.pppool.de) 15.43.10 # Argh!! I left my jukebox at the practice room! Now I've got to spend a weekend without. Do I have a chance to survive? 15.45.32 # langhaarrocker: looking bad 15.46.58 # quelsaruk: I might need one of your goats. 15.50.57 # do I see that right? A new dir in cvs? Files moved? And noone updated the modules file of cvs? 15.51.34 Part kargatis 15.52.46 Join xam_ [0] (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 15.53.00 # oh, the export dir works. 15.59.41 Nick xam_ is now known as xam (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 16.03.31 # langhaarrocker: the new dir is part of the firmware module 16.13.06 Join calpefrosch [0] (~stefan@gtso-d9bb8231.pool.mediaWays.net) 16.17.07 # maybe this is a dump question, but does anybody fixed the x-simulator build yet? 16.19.26 # hmm, no answer ? then this *is* a dump question 16.19.37 Nick calpefrosch is now known as calpe|away (~stefan@gtso-d9bb8231.pool.mediaWays.net) 16.20.22 # what's a dump question? do I need a litter box for that? 16.20.50 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.30.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.41.57 # umm 16.42.06 # was the x-simulator broken? 16.50.22 # works for me 16.51.43 # ok 16.51.55 # mine doesn't but that's normal.. 16.51.57 # :) 16.52.14 # if my jukebox works perfectly, them my computer doesn't... 16.52.44 # and if everything's going on... i really frightened, 'cause something horrible will happen then 16.52.47 # ;) 16.53.08 # :-) 16.53.47 # * xam wonders whether i should dare to install freebsd5 or debian 16.53.56 # [16:19:44] maybe this is a dump question, but does anybody fixed the x-simulator build yet? <--- this made me think it was a rockbox problem :) 16.54.35 # xam, you should ask me what i would install.. and then install the other one ;) 16.54.46 # okay, I ask you :) 16.54.56 # debian 16.54.58 # :P 16.55.00 # I'd pick debian 16.55.11 # maybe becuase I already use it :-) 16.55.14 # I have debian running here everywhere (on MANY differnent architectures). 16.55.14 # debian rocks 16.55.38 # nononononono Zagor, i said debian.. so you should say freebsd5 16.55.55 # * Zagor sends quelsaruk a floppy with win 3.1 16.56.11 # hey! i never used win3.1 16.56.28 # i was using a 8086 while everyone had a 486 16.56.38 # and mine worked better than the others :) 16.56.52 # and debian would be the obvious choice for my laptop (it worked flawlessly earlier). Moreover when I do research I should have the same OS on both the desktop and laptop - HOWEVER FreeBSD5 seems to offer real cool features 16.58.24 # xam: such as? 16.58.56 Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.00.27 # TrustedBSD framework, at least a somewhat stable kernel interface, and default gcc-3.2 (which i need for my work). 4.7 was running faster than linux-2.4 on my laptop before. 17.00.50 # debian uses gcc-3.2 too 17.00.58 # well, not debian stable of course 17.01.10 # Zagor I could install gcc-3.2 on debian, but many C++libraries are still compiled under 3.0 or 3.1 in debian 17.01.31 # why would you want to use c++ ? :) 17.01.51 # Zagor I'm running just testing here on at least 4 different platforms 17.02.02 # zagor :) PhD thesis 17.02.18 # poor you 17.03.24 # Zagor actually I'm coding in ObjC, C and Java, refactoring C++ (and other) code, so at least I have to be able to compile C++ programms 17.04.20 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 17.04.27 # Zagor well blame gcc. IT just creates an good abstract syntax trees for C and C++ programms. 17.05.48 # giving C++ to the average programmer is like a giving a chainsaw to a five year old. yeah, it's powerful, but you know things are about to get messy... 17.07.12 # That's what my project is about. To (semi-)automatically improve object-oriented code (C++ in this example). The project will be implemented in C/ObjC, the GUI probably in Java 17.08.02 # cool. let us know when you have something to show. 17.08.50 # Zagor started designing october, started implementing january ;) still LOTs to do ;) 17.10.03 # that's the reason why I bought an archos ... I just need LOTS of relaxing music when I code :)))) 17.10.08 # hehe 17.10.12 # going home. bye! 17.10.13 Part Zagor 17.10.24 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 17.10.34 # adi|home: you here? 17.10.48 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 17.14.04 # hi elinenbe 17.14.11 # quelsaruk: hi 17.14.21 # elinenbe: whats up? 17.14.24 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 17.14.36 # * adi|home is away: brushing teeth 17.14.43 Quit elinenbe_ (Client Quit) 17.15.08 # adi|home: stop brushing your teeth -- I need to talk to you! :) 17.16.37 # whats up? 17.20.39 # adi|home: you have been working on the sokoban code -- right? 17.22.00 # yup 17.22.17 # y? 17.22.20 # whats up? 17.22.21 # are you going to commit any of the code before 2.0? 17.22.34 # no 17.22.39 # its all post 2.0 changes 17.22.41 # I was going to fix it up a little, but if you are working on it why should I bother? 17.22.59 # you shuold at least commit the fix when you undo how it backs up a step. 17.23.06 # the moves don't count -- I mean! 17.23.23 # heheh 17.23.28 # be patient ;) 17.23.36 # ah... 17.23.43 # I am going to commit the fix then. 17.23.47 # :) 17.24.02 # I have a bunch of little commits that need to be done before 2.0 17.24.09 # why? 17.24.27 # i mean.. the sokoban isn't mission critical 17.24.53 # no -- but it is nice to clean up everything before the commit 17.25.11 # the ID3 viewer is missing genre and year 17.26.52 # and on that note.. im off to the office ;) 17.27.01 # have fun 17.27.53 # don't work too hard 17.40.21 Join Rattlehead [0] (~rtlhd@AZCBL52-p63.cbl.netvision.net.il) 17.40.41 # Hello all. 17.41.13 # hi 17.41.53 # any developers here? 17.42.03 # elinenbe 17.42.39 # is there a normal (windowed) way to convert the lang files to lng? 17.43.25 # yups 17.43.30 # there is :) 17.43.40 # ah.. now i can die peacfully :) 17.43.55 # umm 17.43.56 # or not.. 17.44.13 # wait a minute till i remember 17.44.17 # :) 17.44.29 # sure.. 55 seconds left 17.44.54 # do u have perl? 17.45.21 # now i remember binlang is a perl script.. you can only use it if you have perl 17.45.23 # Oh.. i'm a pure microsoft user.... (yes.. i know.. stop making fun out of me) 17.45.40 # Rattlehead: i have win2k now :) 17.45.51 # you can download perl for windows 17.46.13 # is it big? free? easy to use? worth it? :) 17.46.13 # so.. you could use binlang script.. i think :) 17.46.27 # it's free..... 17.46.36 # maybe i'll just code that script in another language... got it? 17.46.41 # big.. not for me.. but don't trust me 17.47.25 # that's another option 17.47.59 # well.. that will be my contrib to the project.. how nice of me .. 17.48.50 # :) 17.48.55 # a good contrib 17.49.02 # so... can i get the perl script? 17.49.09 # yes... 17.49.16 # it's in tools 17.49.26 # you can get it from sourceforge... 17.49.30 # or using cvs 17.51.02 # hmm.. damn.. my explorer just crushed.. here we go again.. 17.51.16 # i can send it to you via dcc... 17.51.31 # that would be nice 17.52.01 # there you are 17.52.10 Quit Rattlehead (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.53.58 Join Rattlehead [0] (~rtlhd@AZCBL52-p63.cbl.netvision.net.il) 17.54.16 # that was fun. now my client got bugged.. 17.55.36 # ¿??? 17.55.49 # it crashed 17.56.10 # big time. but i got the file, thank you. 17.56.41 # not at all 17.58.47 # i hope that works 17.59.32 # seems notmal.. you don't have the specs for the LNG file, ha?... 17.59.52 # umm 17.59.53 # no 17.59.55 # :) 18.00.19 # ah.. nm.. i'll figure it out.. :) 18.01.16 # do you know perl? 18.02.06 # just a little bit 18.02.15 # bagder is the guru :) 18.02.27 # he's the one who made all these scripts 18.02.34 # what "%c%c%s\X00" equal to? (i hope thats basic...) 18.03.02 # looks like some kind of a string 18.05.05 # jummmsss 18.06.06 # 1 min 18.06.57 # oh.. i think i got the main part of it. <00><00><01>"text text text"<00><00><02>"text text text"... etc' 18.07.20 # now bagder is looking at the log and thinks to himself (this guy must be kidding...:)) 18.07.23 # but i don't know what is that \X00 18.07.36 # jajjaja 18.07.45 # i hope he doesn't read the log 18.07.46 # :) 18.09.01 # but it's for a good cause... so the non-scripted users could make their own lng files... for us. the simple users. that still don't know how to program the VCR.. (flag in the background...) 18.10.07 # jups 18.11.13 # ok. fun meeting you. catch yha l8r (with a windowed LNG file maker...) 18.11.36 # Rattlehead: %c means a character and %s is a string... but \x00 dunno 18.11.57 # the %c and %s is like %d in printf() in c 18.12.53 # think i figured it out ... good thing i still remember C. so long since the last time i coded something.. well.. see yha . 18.12.54 # umm.. maybe too late :) 18.13.04 # cu 18.13.09 Part Rattlehead 18.30.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.49.18 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB49FCC.ipt.aol.com) 18.49.40 # Hi 18.51.30 Quit tracktheripper (Client Quit) 18.59.50 # has anyone tested the patch that changes the F2 quick menu screen? 19.04.39 Quit quelsaruk (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.05.33 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 19.05.37 # quelsaruk: yeah, I like it 19.05.50 # this crashed :) 19.06.03 # elinenbe: you are talking about the patch? 19.06.40 # yeah 19.07.20 # ok... 19.07.52 # i've updated it, and tracking a new version 19.08.01 # could you tell me what would you change? 19.08.16 # it works on the F2, F3 and the Recording_F2 screens 19.12.05 # ouch 19.12.27 # elinenbe: do you know how to delete a file in the patch tracker?? i can't delete old apps.diff 19.12.59 # File Delete: ArtifactFile: Permission Denied 19.13.27 # :( 19.18.40 Join adi|work [0] (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 19.20.45 # hi adi|work 19.20.49 # howdy 19.20.53 # stupid work machine rebooted 19.21.25 # jajaj 19.21.36 # mine did that every half-day... 19.21.39 # at lunch time 19.21.47 # and didn't know why... 19.22.52 # until i found out why.... we have a cleaner, and she saw everyday my computer powered on and turned it off to clean the screen. 19.26.48 # lol 19.54.09 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 19.55.49 # Archos' next unit, the 340: http://www.shanebrinkmandavis.com/homepage/JBMM/PrereleasePicts/index.htm 19.56.58 Quit ricII (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.59.41 Nick calpe|away is now known as calpefrosch (~stefan@gtso-d9bb8231.pool.mediaWays.net) 19.59.41 Quit Zagor (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.00.29 # quelsaruk: hi 20.00.55 # hi calpefrosch :) 20.02.04 # please forget this afternoon-question about the sim-build... 20.02.27 # I was in a hurry 20.03.40 # ein?? 20.03.47 # jajajaja 20.03.50 # don't worry 20.03.54 # so the latest cvs builds fine ? 20.04.13 # ein?? what means that ? 20.04.25 # 1) the cvs is fine 20.04.50 # 2) ein is like a "what???????!!!!!!" in Andaluz 20.05.12 # and jajajaja 20.05.13 # ? 20.07.21 # jajajajja??? == hehehehehe == hahahaha == juas.. juas.. juas... just laughting (spanish version.... i'm intoxicated with spanish way of life) ;) 20.08.21 # i see jajajajaj continuously from stupid chilians on the q2 server i play on. 20.08.22 # ah, because jajajaja means in german yes yes yes yes 20.10.53 # ok, now the cvs build is ok 20.11.13 # are you calling me stupid??? ;) 20.11.13 # ok, i have to go now. cu 20.11.34 # cu calpefrosch :) 20.11.43 # :-) 20.12.02 # me ? why ` 20.12.18 # why should i call you stupid ? 20.12.20 Quit Gissehel (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20.12.29 # not you.. adi|work 20.12.30 # :P 20.12.37 # ? 20.12.52 # ahh.. well.. umm.. 20.12.54 # yes ;) 20.12.57 # yes, I see. l8r 20.13.02 # i see jajajajaj continuously from stupid chilians on the q2 server i play on. 20.13.05 Part calpefrosch 20.13.07 # :P 20.14.33 # adi|work: i will tell that to daddy Zagor ;) 20.14.39 # heheh 20.15.35 # let's hear some good heavy metal 20.15.43 # i need to wake up :) 20.16.29 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 20.16.42 Join Gissehel [0] (gissehel@AFontenayssB-105-1-2-105.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.17.10 # Daddy Zagor!!! adi|work called me stupid!!! tell him something!!! 20.17.15 # ;) 20.18.01 # what the hell is the archos 340?? 20.18.12 # it's like a pda or something like that?? 20.18.19 # a pda with Hd?? 20.18.29 # :-) 20.18.42 # look at the pictures. looks mighty cool. 20.18.58 # the *monster* paypal will pay for next rockbox development?? 20.19.27 # looks cool, but needs rockbox to be cool enough 20.30.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.33.51 # Zagor: i need your help once more 20.33.53 # :) 20.34.15 # ok? 20.34.24 # i've sent to the patch tracker another version of my Quick menu screens patch 20.34.38 # but, i'm not able to delete the old apps.diff 20.34.57 # i though i had deleted it, and now there are 2 apps.diff :) 20.35.02 # hehe 20.35.25 # are you able to delete the old one?? 20.35.28 # PLIIIIIZZZZ 20.35.51 # :) 20.35.52 # fixaed 20.36.47 # thx boss :) 20.50.12 Join Slacker [0] (~hamanjam@adsl-65-70-138-196.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net) 20.51.20 # hi Slacker 20.51.32 # hello 20.54.08 # gotta run... have a good one all 20.54.12 Part Slacker 20.58.06 Join hardeep [0] (hardeeps@208.247.65.237) 21.03.31 # Zagor: now that it's nearly weekend (20 minutes for me).. do u have time for my strange mp3?? 21.23.32 # time to go home 21.23.54 # cu tomorrow or monday morning 21.24.30 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 21.37.15 Join ricII [0] (~ricv@agordijn.demon.nl) 21.44.49 # hmmmmm 21.50.55 Join mojoski [0] (~jirc@fw.gapublicweb.net) 21.51.02 # hello all 21.51.25 # anyone got time for a quick question? 21.52.24 # how stable are the nightly builds? I've been running the last release on my archos recorder 15 for a while now and thought I'd help test the newer builds.. any recommendations on which to grab? 21.52.40 # anyone running last nights build? are the nightlys usually pretty solid? 21.52.58 # hello? 21.53.22 # has the feature freeze takenplace yet? 21.54.01 # yes 21.54.02 # it has 21.54.11 # and the nightly builds are as stable as the code is. 21.54.18 # depends on what has been added at the time 21.54.31 # the only thing we assure to be very stable are the releases 21.54.38 # anything more then that and you take your chances 21.54.54 # of course.. 21.55.02 # but I was just asking for a personal opinion.. 21.55.24 # ok, well, I'll try the latest then.. 21.55.41 # thanks! 21.55.45 # wel.. i think its stable 21.55.46 # i run it :) 21.55.50 # cool 21.55.54 # course.. im a dev so ;) 21.55.59 # what's your fav new feature? 21.56.07 # over 1.4 I mean 21.56.16 # hmmm.. tough call 21.56.26 # is it a pain to get the cross-compiler env setup? 21.56.28 # ones that i use or just features in general? 21.56.34 # depends.. what os are you on? 21.56.35 # whichever 21.56.41 # linux or windows.. 21.56.42 # overall.. recording 21.56.48 # without a doubt, recording 21.56.50 # whichever is easier to setup the cross comp on. hehe 21.56.56 # ahh.. well.. go linux 21.56.57 # ahh nice.. 21.57.01 # the directions are very clear 21.57.04 # easy enough.. 21.57.06 # and i haven't had any prob with it 21.57.18 # cool.. I'll grab last night's build then and give it a shot.. 21.57.27 # same install procedure? 21.57.30 # well.. cook the cross compiler, then dl :) 21.57.33 # just unzip onto USB drive root? 21.57.40 # yup. 21.57.46 # I'll start with the binaries.. 21.57.55 # wait a min.. 21.57.59 # im lost.. 21.58.02 # I did make a donation via paypal today however.. 21.58.02 # hehe 21.58.07 # you want to dl the nightly binaries right? 21.58.11 # woohoo :) 21.58.11 # I was just wondering about the cross compiler.. 21.58.16 # * adi|work nods 21.58.17 # not setting that up today.. 21.58.18 # got ya.. 21.58.27 # k.. play with the nightlies then :) 21.58.36 # will do 21.59.01 # yo're not bjorn, are ya? 21.59.35 # well, thanks for the work on rockbox.. it's been quite a pleasure for me to use.. 22.00.05 # the incremental speedup on ff and rew, and the autoresume play made it worth the donation alone.. 22.00.18 # listening to big audiobooks with the orignal firmware is a pain in the ass.. hehe 22.01.01 # adi, are you bjorn? 22.01.05 # nope :) 22.01.13 # your looking for Zagor :) 22.01.45 # ahh 22.01.47 # just curious.. 22.01.54 # one last question (i hope it's the last) 22.02.06 # shoot 22.02.09 # hey.. Zagor? 22.02.11 # do I just stick the .ajx file in the root dir? 22.02.12 # cvs server: [13:01:45] waiting for zagor's lock in /cvsroot/rockbox/uisimulator/win32/Release 22.02.19 # huh? 22.02.26 # mojoski: ajz yup... 22.02.27 # sorry 22.02.28 # ajz 22.02.32 # ahh 22.02.40 # and name it the same as the ajz file that is there now? 22.02.43 # you can just overwrite the one thats there (assuming you don't want the old one) 22.02.46 # nods 22.02.49 # coolio 22.02.52 # or if you want 22.02.53 # thanks! 22.02.56 # right 22.02.57 # rename the old one 22.03.00 # and you can rolo toit 22.03.00 # rename and save older 22.03.07 # cool 22.03.10 # easy enough 22.03.14 # you guys rock 22.03.15 # we try ;) 22.04.45 # uisimulator? that sounds interesting.. 22.05.07 # an env to test the fonts and such in? 22.06.09 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA9D2B.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.07.04 # yup 22.07.09 # and any code changes you may want 22.07.19 # and you can use it w/o a crosscompiler 22.07.19 # so it emulates the whole device, huh? 22.07.24 # nods 22.07.24 # nice 22.07.29 # runs under linux? 22.07.32 # yup 22.07.44 # its what many of use used for high level dev until the low level stuff was done 22.08.57 # quick question.. 22.09.21 # just rebooted my recorder with the latest nightly build and it seems my battery meter went from about 2/3 full to like 1/3 full 22.09.32 # is the batteyr code on the new version just more acurate, you think? 22.10.42 # dunno to be honest 22.10.59 # also, I've found some info on how to use the archos player and recorder to listen to audible.com content.. you think Zagor would want me to write it up and submit as an FAQ answer? 22.13.17 # how to do it? 22.14.16 # yea 22.14.34 # there is a nice app called Goldwave that will convert Audible.com content to plain MP3s 22.14.37 # quite handy 22.14.58 # just got done listening to John Grisham's The Summons that I bought from audible.com last week 22.15.17 # I know most people are probably stumped by that.. 22.15.44 # right.. ive used Goldwave 22.15.57 # but that doesn't really answer the question on how to play it on rockbox... 22.16.07 # the answer is the same. We can't play non-mp3 files on the unit 22.16.16 # if they want to convert, thats their buisness. 22.16.34 # and frankly, making alink to all the utils that are out there... or for all the formats.. im against that ;) 22.18.14 Nick xam is now known as yawa_xam (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 22.18.50 # well, that makes sense.. 22.19.00 # it doesn't really have anything to do with rockbox.. 22.19.38 # nods 22.19.56 Nick yawa_xam is now known as xam (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 22.20.37 # what is the black box next to the repeat mode icon on the top of the screen? 22.20.53 # between repeat mode icon and volume meter? 22.22.59 # any idea? 22.23.51 # ahh 22.23.53 # I see 22.23.58 # that's the play mode icon.. 22.24.08 # it's a black square cause I'm not playing anything.. 22.24.10 # DOH! 22.25.35 # can I bug you with one more question, adi? 22.25.48 # you still there? 22.29.57 # is there any combo of key presses that does like an instant 30 second rewind? like on a Tivo? 22.30.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.34.18 # guess I lost ya 22.50.03 Quit mojoski ("Leaving") 23.09.47 Quit s0be (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.54.47 Nick edx is now known as edx`afk (edx@pD9EA9D2B.dip.t-dialin.net)