--- Log for 10.02.103 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 21 days and 10 hours ago 00.29.36 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 00.31.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.39.03 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 01.10.33 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.10.33 Join Josh_ [0] (~Josh@adsl-158-209-142.mia.bellsouth.net) 01.19.32 Quit matula (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.19.32 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.20.12 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.20.12 NJoin matula [0] (jirc@adsl-237-97.adsl-pool.axelero.hu) 01.29.37 Nick Josh_ is now known as Jet8810 (~Josh@adsl-158-209-142.mia.bellsouth.net) 01.30.53 Join nate10588_ [0] (~chatzilla@astound-64-83-207-237.mn.astound.net) 01.32.25 Quit nate10588_ ("ChatZilla 0.8.11 [Mozilla rv:1.3a/20021212]") 01.33.37 Join zack [0] (~thecopes@rdu163-120-098.nc.rr.com) 01.34.14 # hi all, I was wondering if anyone has patched the "calender" patch on a firmware for the recorder, and i was wondering how it is? 01.34.49 # Also, I would like to test it, but I have no clue at all on how to patch or do any thing like "code" 01.35.10 # so, I was wondering if soeone could send me a patched firmware with the calendar on it? 01.35.15 Join Guest [0] (jirc@ool-18be2b51.dyn.optonline.net) 01.35.16 # Does anyone know how to do that? 01.35.20 # Thanks- Zack 01.36.08 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 01.38.30 Join ErriCo_MaLaTesTa [0] (~awdyf@200.202.226.234) 01.45.42 # not to rush anyone, but is anyone there? 01.46.08 # yea 01.46.11 # do you want to buy my 64mb thumb drive for $25 shipped? 01.46.12 # :) 01.46.17 Quit s0be (Remote closed the connection) 01.48.11 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.31) 01.48.12 Quit zack (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.50.21 Quit BoD[] ("omg") 01.53.48 Quit ErriCo_MaLaTesTa ("fui") 02.04.10 Quit s0be (Remote closed the connection) 02.05.20 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.31) 02.27.33 Join hardeep [0] (~upirc@adsl-63-195-51-251.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 02.28.02 Part hardeep 02.31.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.16.07 Quit matula (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.26.37 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-146.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 04.31.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.34.56 Quit adi|home (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.53.15 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-10.216-194-24-108.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 04.53.58 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-78-136-7.vc.shawcable.net) 04.53.59 # hello 04.54.10 # anyone around? 05.00.10 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 05.05.45 # i am 05.05.47 # whats up? 05.06.56 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.16) 05.09.29 # how can I format my archos? 05.09.49 # root@dusty / # mkfs.vfat /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 05.09.49 # mkfs.vfat 2.8 (28 Feb 2001) 05.09.49 # mkfs.vfat: Attempting to create a too large file system 05.10.08 # also.. does rockbox work on FM recorders yet? 05.10.23 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 05.12.55 # thu: sort of 05.13.03 # 'work in progress' 05.13.09 # how big is the drive? 05.13.38 # 20 gigs 05.13.55 # hmm 05.13.56 # I guess I won't try rockbox yet 05.14.01 # but I still wanna format the disk 05.17.36 # is there a version of rockbox that at least boots the FM recorder? 05.17.43 # oh yes 05.17.54 # it works fine 05.18.05 # which ver? 05.18.08 # you cna play music, record etc 05.18.09 # cvs 05.18.12 # but 05.18.19 # 1.4-recorder wouldn't boot 05.18.19 # there are some issues with the battery 05.18.26 # and some issues with the backlight 05.18.29 # "issues"? 05.18.32 # 1.4 is a long time ago :) 05.18.48 # im talking about the bleeding edge stuff 05.19.02 # cool 05.19.07 # I might just give it a try 05.19.09 # in the mean time.. 05.19.22 # any info on the partitioning of the disk in FMs? 05.19.45 # mine has a pretty wacky partition table 05.19.56 # yes, no-one can work out where to read the battery voltage from reliabley, and it has greatly reduced battery life 05.20.07 # the backlight only comes on when the hd spins 05.20.20 # did anyone try asking the archos guys for details? 05.20.34 # maybe they appreciate the whole rockbox effort 05.20.56 # after all.. it's providing a nicer firmware at no cost to them 05.20.57 # well they bundle rockbox with their latest recorder driver cd 05.21.16 # did anyone try contacting them for details? 05.21.30 # i dont know 05.22.49 # heh.. fsck.vfat gives me a bunch of errs 05.23.01 # like duplicate dir entries and stuff 05.23.10 # how do I create a fresh file system? 05.24.21 # can you fdisk it 05.24.36 # yeah but it looks messy and it doesn't help 05.24.39 # I just tried formatting it 05.24.42 # fdisk /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0 05.24.46 # delete all the partitions 05.24.57 # create a single one 05.25.02 # I just did a mkfs.vfat on part1 05.25.08 # I didn't touch the partition table 05.25.11 # btw you shouldnt need to do this 05.25.13 # it might not like the changes 05.25.24 # you just said that didnt work tho 05.25.39 # why do you really need to format it btw? 05.25.42 # mkfs.vfat defaults to fat16 05.25.52 # mkfs.vfat -F 32 did work 05.26.00 # the file system was screwed 05.26.05 # like duplicate dir entries and stuff 05.26.08 # corrupt files 05.28.03 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.30.32 # aha 05.30.50 # ive never made a vfat partition from linux, didnt think it would default to fat16 :) 05.31.41 # me neither 05.32.15 # * thu is filling up his drive with stuff 06.31.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.44.47 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAA46B.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.51.44 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp104.contactor.se) 06.54.44 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12-208-140-24.client.attbi.com) 06.57.34 Quit edx () 07.12.43 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 07.23.11 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.124) 07.24.11 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 07.26.11 # hey zagor 07.26.24 # up early? 07.27.37 Quit MeRWiN () 07.27.52 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12-208-140-24.client.attbi.com) 07.28.37 # yeah 07.30.02 # YAY FOR Z! 07.30.16 # * dwihno forgot to leave a birthday gratulation message to Linus :-( 07.44.49 Mode "#rockbox +o adi|home " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 07.45.17 Topic "feature freeze -- 2.0 soon -- and a happy belated birthday to Linus!" by adi|home (~adiamas@as5300-10.216-194-24-108.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 07.45.47 Mode "#rockbox -o adi|home " by adi|home (~adiamas@as5300-10.216-194-24-108.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 07.46.04 # mcuh better 07.46.22 Quit s0be (Remote closed the connection) 08.20.20 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.31.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.38.31 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.31) 08.50.17 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 08.54.48 # *yawn* 09.01.13 Join _MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 09.07.57 Quit MeRWiN () 09.13.41 Quit MT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.13.43 Nick _MT is now known as MT (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 09.31.30 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.34.29 Quit thu ("zZz") 09.34.35 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.42.12 Join stefan_ [0] (~calpefros@gtso-d9bb8270.pool.mediaWays.net) 09.42.36 Nick stefan_ is now known as calpefrosch (~calpefros@gtso-d9bb8270.pool.mediaWays.net) 09.42.42 # morning 10.03.23 Join blabla [0] (jirc@wit387200.student.utwente.nl) 10.04.27 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 10.04.35 # goooood morning! 10.06.13 # hi 10.08.14 # does anyonye know a good tool to sync my archos with a folder on my pc ? 10.10.05 # umm 10.10.13 # there was one made by uwe 10.10.29 # but i can't remember his website :( 10.10.59 # http://www.uwe-freese.de/download/ABSync.rar 10.11.06 # http://www.uwe-freese.de/absync/ABSync/ABSync.html 10.11.21 # english doc and program 10.11.34 # :) 10.11.49 # i haven't tested but seemed good 10.12.09 Part Zagor 10.12.32 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 10.12.43 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.12.47 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.15.12 Nick quel|out is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 10.23.58 Part Zagor 10.25.01 Quit blabla ("Leaving") 10.30.09 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.30.15 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.31.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.32.18 Part Zagor 10.49.07 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.49.10 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.52.56 # Zagor: do you need a seat belt to stay here today? 10.55.05 # yeah, apparently. the silly web proxy at work keeps going up and down. 10.56.37 Part Zagor 11.08.18 Join kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-475.ath.forthnet.gr) 11.13.17 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 11.16.49 Quit MT (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.23.12 Join MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 11.26.23 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 11.26.26 # yeah, apparently. the silly web proxy at work keeps going up and down. 11.26.28 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 11.26.35 # well, let's see how long this lasts... 11.33.01 Nick calpefrosch is now known as calpe|lunch (~calpefros@gtso-d9bb8270.pool.mediaWays.net) 11.36.53 Quit s0be (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.36.53 Quit matsl (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 Quit ricII (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 Quit kargatron (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 Quit calpe|lunch (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 Quit Schnueff (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 Quit Hes (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 Quit dwihno (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 Quit MrSnazz (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 Quit PsycoXul (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 Quit adi|home (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 Quit adi|work (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.53 Quit seb-sleep (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.38.41 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.38.41 NJoin kargatron [0] (~Vincent@ppp-isdn-475.ath.forthnet.gr) 11.38.41 NJoin calpe|lunch [0] (~calpefros@gtso-d9bb8270.pool.mediaWays.net) 11.38.41 NJoin s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.31) 11.38.41 NJoin matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp104.contactor.se) 11.38.41 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-10.216-194-24-108.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 11.38.41 NJoin ricII [0] (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) 11.38.41 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 11.38.41 NJoin adi|work [0] (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 11.38.41 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 11.38.41 NJoin dwihno [0] (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 11.38.41 NJoin MrSnazz [0] (~jmc@e-64-35-146-236.empnet.net) 11.38.41 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-45-144.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 11.38.46 Mode "#rockbox -o logbot " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 11.44.23 # yaaaawn 11.46.41 NJoin seb-sleep [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 11.48.14 Quit seb-sleep (Connection reset by peer) 12.04.49 # zagor 12.05.02 # i'm a "pesado", but.. did you try that mp3 ? 12.15.09 Nick quel|out is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 12.17.59 Nick calpe|lunch is now known as calpefrosch (~calpefros@gtso-d9bb8270.pool.mediaWays.net) 12.20.23 # hi calpefrosch 12.29.08 # Zagor, the EAC coder's response to the 2.3 TCON-writing issue: http://www.digital-inn.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13536 12.29.25 # '"can" means : can, not must...' 12.29.49 # oh well, don't think he'll be changing the 2.3 writing code for this. 12.30.30 # kargatron: i'll take it from here :-) (hint: he's wrong) 12.31.04 # go for it! ;) 12.31.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.50.52 # oh, hi quelsaruk 12.51.07 # jajaja 12.51.15 # you need glasses 12.51.16 # :) 12.52.14 # yes, I *have* glasses. But I was working and not reading.. sorry 12.52.26 # :) 13.01.51 # rebootingh 13.02.07 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 13.09.14 # kargatron: reply posted 13.10.36 # groovy, let's see what happens. i too though 'numeric string' was unambiguous. :) 13.18.47 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 13.18.55 # re-hi 13.21.06 # quelsaruk! 13.21.13 # bueno! 13.21.28 # una hamburgesa dwihno? 13.21.36 Join seb-sleep [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 13.22.26 # Non, une cerveza grande, por favor :) 13.22.38 # ;) 13.22.57 # i see you know you to survive in spain 13.22.58 # :) 13.24.01 Nick calpefrosch is now known as calp|away (~calpefros@gtso-d9bb8270.pool.mediaWays.net) 13.31.06 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.44.130) 13.31.23 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 13.33.14 Quit adi|work (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.36.20 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 13.36.31 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 13.37.05 # is the 2.0 release coming out this week? 13.37.25 # not likely 13.37.41 # what is left to be looked at? 13.37.45 # we still have some bugs, and linus has a major recording fix coming up 13.38.07 # nice... 13.38.16 # I was hoping to get it sooner, but I can't blame him for not having time... 13.38.47 # I found a bug, but I think this refers to it "fix id3 loading so mpeg.c loads file and passes buffers to id3.c" 13.39.11 # when I plan a song, in the wps it first shows the wrong information as if it is not in the mp3 13.39.20 # and then finally the ID# info comes up after a second. 13.39.30 # s/ID#/ID3 13.39.52 # this only happens when you press play on the song, right? not when it's being played after another track? 13.40.00 # I am not sure. 13.40.11 # I have only noticed it when I press plat 13.40.40 # but is is annoying to see (root) (root) and then the song artist and name pop up 13.40.53 # this is with the "new" default 2.0 wps 13.41.02 # yes. i guess that file contains an album cover graphic, right? 13.41.13 Join clinker [0] (~clinker@publicaciones.ugr.es) 13.41.25 # Zagor: I am not sure... hold on... 13.41.42 # zagor: which was the website with the archos 340?? 13.41.54 # (quelsaruk) 13.42.08 # clinker: check the irc log. I don't have it here. 13.42.18 # archos 340? 13.42.22 # at the website? 13.42.24 # ok 13.42.24 # yes 13.42.25 # thx 13.42.32 # cu l8r 13.42.43 Part clinker 13.45.33 # dwihno: something they demoed at CES. a multimedia with a screen covering the entire front, basically 13.48.33 Quit calp|away ("leaving") 13.49.23 # Zagor: Ah, pretty neato. 13.49.42 # I wonder how long the multimedia batteries last. 13.50.00 # I've read they have major battery problems with the MM. 13.50.19 # it's supposed to last 6-8 hours playing mp3, but few get that much 13.51.54 Join HydraIRC [0] (~hydrairc@wit387200.student.utwente.nl) 13.51.57 # whoa 13.52.10 # Is it possible to replace the FM battery btw? 13.52.14 Nick HydraIRC is now known as darkhanzz (~hydrairc@wit387200.student.utwente.nl) 13.52.37 # technically yes, but it's not possible to by them 13.52.39 # buy them 13.53.02 # i'm back here 13.53.02 # question: how can i get windows to use a standard usb driver for my archos ? 13.53.03 # :) 13.53.46 # darkhanzz: which archos model? 13.54.06 # the studio 20 13.54.45 # i've heard it is possible, but windows 2000 doesn't seem to recognize it without the special archos drivers 13.54.55 # the studio is not a standard usb device so it needs special drivers 13.54.59 # ok 13.55.03 # only the recorder20 is a standard usb devices 13.55.08 # ok 13.55.09 # thanks 13.55.13 # you're welcome 13.55.49 # Zagor: about the ID3 tags -- most of them do not have pictures. 13.56.20 # Zagor: an off-topic question... until what hour does a normal company work there in sweden? i have to phone and don't know until when i can phone them :) 13.56.30 # elinenbe: ok. can you file a bug and make an example file available? 13.56.42 # quelsaruk: 17 or 18 13.56.46 # thx :) 13.57.07 # quelsaruk: you're at CET too, right? 13.57.28 # or do you guys run on GMT? 13.57.38 # (time zone) 13.58.17 # sweden is gmt + 1 i think 13.58.20 # that's CET 13.58.21 # GMT 13.58.35 # now i have 14:01 13.58.46 # we are in the same parallel 13.58.50 # so it doesnt' matter 13.59.07 # :-) 13.59.17 # (i had to study astronomy.. and now all different times) 13.59.36 # sidereal time.. local time... universal time... 13.59.37 # * Zagor screams in the void at people using non-standard crc16 14.00.19 # quelsaruk, do you mean you *are* studying astronomy, or just did at some point in the past? 14.00.53 # umm... in theory, i have to study it this year.. but studied it last :) 14.02.14 # just curious. i got my phd in space physics & astronomy, so was idly wondering 14.02.47 # well.. 14.02.56 # i'm *nearly* a civil ingenier 14.03.12 # i don't really understand why do i need all this astrology stuff... 14.03.19 # nowadays we have gps :) 14.03.29 # if i had to make a road using the stars.... 14.03.37 # poor of all you :) 14.03.53 # ouch, you'll get strung up saying 'astrology' when you mean 'astronomy' in scientific circles. :) 14.04.01 # sorry 14.04.08 # astronomy 14.04.17 # i'm a bit sleep 14.04.18 # :) 14.04.31 # i wanted to say astronomy 14.04.33 # :) 14.04.54 # [14:01:53] (i had to study astronomy.. and now all different times) <---- i first said astronomy 14.06.17 # Muy bien 14.06.22 # Buenos noches capitan! 14.06.33 # Milli diavolo! Est une Zorro! 14.07.17 # that's italian 14.07.18 # :P 14.08.46 # Shit same, different name :-) 14.08.52 # :) 14.09.07 # ha det sa bra, dwihno? (or similar) 14.14.37 # * quelsaruk thinks he has said something *very* bad to dwihno 14.15.54 # :-) 14.15.59 # bra = good 14.16.24 # i tried to say something like "how are you" 14.16.29 # o are you ok? 14.16.31 # but... 14.16.55 # ha det så bra = have a good time (quasi translation) 14.16.55 # my swedish is even worst than my english 14.17.16 # ajam... 14.17.20 # ayam brand 14.17.25 # so how are you is... 14.17.26 # That means "chicken brand" 14.21.32 # elinenbe: are you here? 14.22.29 # time to go home 14.22.37 # nick quel|lunch 14.22.42 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|lunch (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 14.22.44 # :) 14.22.58 # i must press all the keys... 14.23.38 # cu l8r 14.24.23 # cul8rm8! 14.26.09 Quit darkhanzz (" Still using mIRC? lol! - HydraIRC, v0.337 (15/January/2003) -> http://hydrairc.sourceforge.net <-") 14.31.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.32.12 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.32.20 # hi all!!! 14.37.42 # Can I submit the Afrikaan.lang file on cvs ? 14.39.55 # this is the 15 language supported by rockbox 14.40.16 # How sick isn't that? :-) 14.40.27 # bobTHC: yes, do that 14.40.28 # :) 14.42.55 # "Sound settings" -> "Click click clock" 14.42.58 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-school (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.43.05 # "Display settings" -> "Clock clock gong click" 14.43.56 # cvs server: invalid RCS keyword expansion mode 14.43.59 # Error, CVS operation failed 14.43.59 # ? 14.44.38 # I can commit , update but server wont add a file what the deal? 14.45.13 # dwihno: actually, afrikaans is a dutch-like language. not quite as exotic as your sounds :-) 14.45.22 # bobTHC: I don't know 14.46.17 # zagor : Special rights requiered for adding? 14.46.37 # Zagor: I noticed that while reading it :-) I'm just pulling your legs. 14.50.14 # bobTHC: no, shouldn't be special 14.50.33 # looks like a bad command line. what did you run? 14.50.36 # n C:\rockbox\apps: cvs -q add -ku lang\afrikaans.lang ? 14.50.58 # what's -ku ? 14.51.41 # i dont know automaticly added by tortoiseCVS 14.51.53 # heh 14.52.02 # :) 14.53.22 # try removing the comment at the tiop 14.59.36 # tortoiseCVS? 14.59.43 # Sounds cool! :D 15.02.15 # yep cool :) 15.05.48 Join RoSCOoP [0] (~jirc@f11v-1-44.d1.club-internet.fr) 15.06.02 # hi? 15.06.06 # hi 15.06.11 # hi 15.06.22 # hi 15.06.29 # is it the rockbox channel for archos? 15.06.33 # ye 15.06.44 # got a question! 15.07.13 # i'm trying to build the Uisimulator, how should i do? 15.07.52 # no idea? 15.08.20 # how to build UIsimulator for W32? 15.09.00 # the uisimulator does not work well for win32. 15.09.12 # you need visual studio 6 15.09.18 # i think 15.09.22 # i 've got it 15.09.39 # i never use win32, so I'm afraid I can't help you 15.09.45 # :) 15.10.24 # okey i try under linux? 15.11.51 # yes, that works 15.12.12 # I can see in your FAQ that you're looking for some docs about the MAS3507,what do you need exactly? 15.12.37 # DSP programming documentation and compiler 15.14.19 # ok, i will ask to our DSp expert where i'm working 15.14.36 # RoSCOoP: that sounds great! 15.14.41 # cool 15.14.50 # whoa 15.15.43 # who are most of you, professionals or it's just an hobbit? 15.16.18 # most are professionals, although the rockbox project is a hobby 15.16.26 # some are professionals, and some do it in their free time 15.16.35 # all do it in the free time 15.16.48 # because your code is very clear 15.17.17 # thanks 15.17.23 # Zagor is actually a full time rockbox developer -- I pay him $5 per day... 15.17.34 # :) 15.17.37 # I just haven't receive my first pay check yet :) 15.17.45 # what is the issue with MAS docs - they cost $? 15.17.47 # you only pay me every 5 years ;) 15.17.58 # kargatron: no. they simply are not available. 15.18.20 # RoSCOoP: any help in getting those documents would be greatly appreciated 15.18.21 # right, so if they're not available, what is RoSCOoP offering? a reverse-enginnered set? 15.18.22 # micronas doesn't let anyone see them, as far as I know 15.18.34 # kargatron: shh. I don't want to know. :-) 15.19.51 # i'm a network programmer for netbricks (www.netbricks.net) and have buyed an archos recorder on ebay, and you work seems intersting 15.20.18 # RoSCOoP: any help is always appreciated. 15.20.29 # RoSCOoP: you can join the mailing list at rockbox.haxx.se 15.22.50 # okey i will do that 15.25.09 # RoSCOoP: that is where most of the discussion/bickerings/etc. take place 15.25.25 # be warned though you could get a lot of messages some days! :) 15.26.21 # why micronas doesn't share info about the MAS3507? 15.27.20 # RoSCOoP: they are poops 15.27.42 # morning 15.27.45 # They would perhaps sell the docs for expensive dollars, unless we buy 300 000 MAS's 15.28.38 # they consider the dsp their trade secret 15.29.18 # do you think that it's for contrat reason with archos? 15.30.19 # not specially with archos, a lot of other device use it... 15.30.56 # It shouldn't be so damn hard to find. 15.31.08 # I'll ask Jeeves :-) 15.31.17 # haha 15.42.01 # what isthe difference between the MAS3507 you're talking about and the MAS3507D their talking about on http://www.mp3projects.com/docs.html 15.43.10 # ? 15.45.33 # nothing. it's the same chip. 15.45.55 # but the data sheets don't contain any dsp programming information 15.46.58 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-021-002.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.47.38 # Zagor: do you think Archos have the MAS DSP docs? 15.47.58 # I doubt it. They don't need them. 15.48.19 # agree 15.48.23 # Jeeves didn't have them :-/ 15.48.31 # dwihno: surprise :-) 15.48.43 # Zagor: Jeeve's is da mään! He has so much cool stuff :-) 15.49.37 # I just wanted to drop a comment on how friendly somebody rejected the *.wav feature request. But it seems you've already passed that topic... :) 15.50.30 # langhaarrocker: friendly? are you ironic or sincere? 15.50.45 # sincere and surprised 15.51.07 # langhaarrocker: URL? :) 15.51.08 # It means a lot of patience to aswer that question again and again without bursting out. 15.51.37 # submitters deserve any shit dished them. gotta learn to read FAQs sometime in your life 15.51.39 # the path of least resistance. that response is canned. I just select it from the list and press submit. :-) 15.52.16 # that canned response should mention the faq, imo, as a more general reminder... 15.52.41 # kargatron: yes 15.54.27 # Why can't i record in wav with my archos ?? :) 15.54.39 # physically impossible 15.54.50 # Nah, it's possible 15.54.55 # is it? 15.54.59 # I think so 15.55.02 # with dsp plugin 15.55.15 # Linus mentioned something about it 15.55.24 # Linus knows kebab, so I trust him 110% 15.55.32 # :) 15.55.34 # it's physically possible to record, but not play back, if I recall correctly 15.55.52 # it's all very hypotetic anyway 15.55.56 # oh, dsp plugin, right 15.56.36 # data path speed? wasn't that a limitation, too? Maybe I should read the faq, too. 15.56.46 # Zagor: High quality recording would be so damn nice when doing serious recording stuff 15.57.00 # record is the most important... I konow thousands of reporters that use DAT, that will be ready to use archos if it could record in wav (perfect sound)... 15.58.02 # it's hypoteticly possible to record but physicaly impossible to playback..... it's a hard limitation for this ppl 15.58.11 # I can't quite say I understand them. they are silly if they thing field voice recording is any different uncomressed than high-quality mp3 15.58.39 # for my recordings the enconding is not the weak link. And I am conviced that only few people have the equipment so that encoding becomes the weak link. 15.58.49 # langhaarrocker: exactly 15.58.59 # You'd need a serious external ad converter at first. 15.59.54 # The only one that I found that portable and nearly affordable is just as expensive as the jb itself and its bigger in size anyway. I say nearly affordable because I don't have one. 16.00.00 # with a good preamp and a condenser microphone encoding IS the weak link! 16.00.07 # i would expect most people with DAT recorders to use both good mikes and have good stereos 16.00.45 # RoSCOop: No tha analog circuit stuff in the archos is always worse. 16.01.34 # I don't have a really good preamp and still the archos analog stuff is the weak link. 16.01.48 # kargatron: not necessarily. the major reasons people use DATs are because it's noise free and you can use the same tape over and over again. 1.5Mbit bandwith is not a concern to field recording reporters. 16.02.11 # RoSCOoP: the A/D in the MAS is specified as "FM quality", it's not very good even though it does 48kHz/16 bit! 16.02.26 # the D/A is much better than the A/D, for the analog part. 16.02.40 # do you think that it's better to use the Creative jukebox (DAP) for quality recording? 16.02.49 # even with external microphones and all. For high quality recording you need an external A/D. 16.02.53 # Hes: have you ever looked at the output with a scope? you'd might be surprised 16.03.14 # langhaarrocker: Nope. What came up? 16.03.26 # DAP have same A/D converter quality... 16.04.03 # It looked somehow like pulsed output. Maybe I'll take a screenshot of the scope when I'm home again. Then I'll post it. 16.04.21 # Oh. 16.04.54 # Maybe some noise in it, from the voltage converters? 16.05.37 # RoSCOoP: I doubt that any portable consumer electronic recording has a decent microphone preamp. At least I haven't had any in my hands. And I have consumed 3 Minidisc recorders and a Jukebox so far... 16.06.20 # I have an Edirol UA-5 for hard disk recording. Too bad it doesn't work (without hardware modification) as a standalone A/D. 16.06.20 # Hes: No, it looks more like something like pulse (-width?) modulation is used to approximate the output voltage. 16.06.31 # langhaarrocker: hm, that'd be ugly. 16.07.22 # But good enough for what I use it for, so far 8-] 16.07.35 # Hes: I don't mind it. It still sounds good enough for me - especially for road use. And when I'm at home I always can connect my DAT recorder as DA. 16.07.41 # in all case voice recording is not where u view real difference between good and bad A/D circuits... 16.07.51 # Hi-fi freaks will of course freak out, but hey 8-) 16.07.55 # agreed 16.08.02 Part kargatron 16.10.24 # Somebody i know want to make CD that will compile all the sound that you can hear in a city, and he is asks me to find a device for recording, but he bas not a very big budget.. Any idea? 16.11.54 # I've tried the DAP for the wav recording mode, but battery life is rediculous and boot up time too long.. 16.12.06 # that doesn't work. That is a inherently expensive task. For that you'll want to record soft noises, too. That require expensive micros and preamps. 16.12.41 # Still have a good preamp and a good mic 16.12.51 # any suggestion? 16.12.53 # expensive omnidirectional mics and low noise preamps & A/D 16.14.16 # quality is always expensive.... 16.14.35 # I've got the mic and preamp parts, now i'm looking a device that will convert A/D and stock it without to much quality loss.. 16.15.10 # if you have a laptop (and long enough cables to not record it's humming) I'd recommend the Edirol UA-5 16.15.43 # it does a pretty good job as an external 2-channel (stereo) A/D & D/A for a computer, and has a good selection of I/O connections 16.16.24 # it's distributed by Roland so the support & availability is quite good, I bought mine in a instrument & audio gear shop in Finland 16.16.41 # I don't dare to make serious suggestions because that is not my field. But I believe that once you have good mic and preamp it doesn't matter much if you use a cheap md. But as said before: you might want to prefer something like the Zefiro Inbox as a front end to the data store. 16.16.51 Nick quel|lunch is now known as zaknafein (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 16.16.53 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 16.17.00 # It's very popular in the bootleg recording circles, good bang-for-buck ratio if you happen to be in posession of a laptop already. 16.17.28 # and carrying something as big as a laptop + the UA-5 + 12V lead-acid battery is not out of the question. 16.17.43 # :) 16.17.55 # thanks 16.18.07 # Hes: how do you sneak that past the guards at a concert? ;) 16.18.19 # spill some acid on them? 16.18.41 # Be friends with the band members, or play in the band yourself (that's what I do 8-) 16.18.59 # I only record my own band, too :) 16.19.02 # * zaknafein start thinking people only work and talk while he's having lunch...... 16.19.19 # an du make bootleg of ure own concert? it's not bootleg it's live recording ;) 16.19.21 # oops, he's back. quiet everyone! 16.19.22 # Some bands & clubs allow & support recording even. Not many big venues or record label bands though. 16.19.49 # hey! i've recorded some concerts.. edguy, gamma ray.. blind guardian... 16.20.02 # :) 16.20.34 Nick zaknafein is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 16.20.38 # * langhaarrocker can't hold the silence in spite of zagors warning 16.20.38 # I haven't done any bootlegging yet. I alway authorize myself to do rekording 16.21.21 # Oh, it's our goat-butcher in disguise! 16.21.22 # There are a bunch of documents & mailing lists about the subject, just do a google search for "UA-5 bootleg" 16.21.30 # roscoop : for 300 buck u have the hoontech di 2000 (http://www.hoontech.com/english/products/standalone/di2000.html#) i view very good review on it 16.21.37 # or at the dat-head mailing list 16.21.53 # people put an A/D + DAT in a backpack or suitcase, wire miniature microphones attached to their glasses, and get very good results 8-) 16.22.17 # dat-heads is a good list, yes 16.23.08 # I use a stereo mic by Sony. Cheap, a little bit cold in sound but very easy to handle. I had many fine recordings with it. (if you neglect the musical qualities of my band....) 16.23.11 # Hes: you are the värsta spy kids alltså :D 16.23.11 # thanks for the link 16.23.12 # ummm.. are we talking about mics? 16.23.26 # for recording a concert? 16.23.36 # I want mor mics! 16.23.41 # :) 16.24.03 # good mics! Cheap mics! I have a 12 Track system that needs food! 16.25.52 # Oh, great gurus of mics! which one do you recomend me for recording a concert? 16.26.36 # * Zagor prefers plastic cups and string 16.27.32 # I recommend asking a guru, not me. I only have my Sony 959(?) and am confident with that. 16.27.32 # Zagor: I'd recommend that, too. you might make good ear protection from it when attending X-Phobie concerts. :) 16.29.50 # great.. 16.30.21 # i'm calling sweden and i'm on queue!!! 16.30.55 # it's cheaper flying there than waiting online 16.31.23 # On the line of Zagors plastic cups? 16.31.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.31.32 # i thought this only happened in Spain 16.31.41 # langhaarrocker: yups :) 16.33.39 # when talking about portable recording: I crave for a Zefiro Inbox http://www.denecke.com/prod04.htm#AD20 16.33.40 # If anybody knows anything comparable (battery driven portable mic preamp with ad) _please_ let me know. 16.35.05 # Hm, looks like a very nice little box for the purpose. 16.35.40 # still bigger than the jukebox :( 16.36.29 # I selected the UA-5 long before i got the jukebox, for hard disk recording on the laptop, also makes for a very good external sound card while at home since I don't have digital I/O on the sound card... 16.36.48 # but that little box would make a very good job together with rockbox. 16.36.55 # the di2000 of hoontech is not battery driven but is on standard 12V and is very biger than the recorder... 16.37.47 # For hd recording with a laptop I'd want at least 8 inputs. 16.38.37 # Gotta run for some food... 16.43.04 # elinenbe: are you here? 16.47.07 # whee now my winnt desktop (x terminal) froze up. fun fun. 16.48.58 # winnt?? 16.49.02 # tsk.. tsk... 16.49.23 # you must treat windoze with love and care... 16.49.41 # windows is alive.. it must feel you like it 16.50.00 # nah. Give it the whip 16.50.01 # and never ever it must think you are using linux ;) 16.52.30 Join edx [0] (edx@dhcp14.kph.uni-mainz.de) 16.57.20 # hi edx 16.57.28 # hi 16.58.48 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 17.03.26 Quit RoSCOoP ("Leaving") 17.03.43 Part langhaarrocker 17.05.32 # off 17.05.32 Part Zagor 17.08.14 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.08.23 Part mecraw 17.08.43 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.16.10 Join _MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 17.31.01 Quit edx () 17.32.03 # one feature request (if that is possible?): I use the feature that if you are playing a song and switch to the directory browser, it doesn't automatically start in the directory of the current song (I don't recall the feature name and my archos is at home). 17.33.01 # however I'd like to start from the songs directory if the archos was switched off and switched on again 17.33.13 # is that possible? 17.35.52 # i don't understand you... but that's normal in me :) 17.37.16 Quit MT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.37.17 Nick _MT is now known as MT (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 17.43.30 # okay, 1. select a song to play and play it. 2. a 17.44.04 # 2. select a next song, but switch back to WPS by pressing ON 17.45.06 # ok 17.45.28 # 3. now you press ON a second time ... depending on your preferences, you'll start from the directory of the current song (1.), or at the last selected directory (2.) 17.45.43 # yups 17.45.52 # 4. the song (from 1.) is still playing, but you switch of the archos 17.46.11 # ajam 17.46.15 # 5. switch it on again and press "play" to resume the song 17.46.36 # 6. press ON to select the next song ... it starts in the root directory. 17.46.38 # ajam 17.47.27 # 7. my question: can you let it start from the directory of the currently playing song just under these circumstances (after poweroff/poweron-resume) 17.47.56 Join adi|work [0] (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 17.53.48 # the reason for this is that I have a rather deep (and wide) directory structure on my archos, so everytime i poweroff/poweron-resume I have to go through a whole bunch of directories ie. just to jump to a particular song 17.54.23 # umm 17.54.29 # i think i have it that way 17.54.45 # no.. 17.54.46 # sorry 17.54.52 # or yes... 17.55.01 # i can't remember right now 17.55.04 # lol 17.55.20 # but i think i have it that way 17.55.23 # there is no option in the preferences 17.55.41 # my last neuron has vacations this week 17.55.52 # so i can't remember anything ;) 17.56.10 # ;) 18.00.34 # must go 18.00.37 # cu later! 18.00.41 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 18.01.09 # cu 18.01.59 # cu l8ter 18.02.02 # bye all 18.02.05 Part bobTHC 18.31.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.54.00 Quit seb-school (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.54.31 # bye 18.54.40 # have fun in rockbox-land! 18.54.42 Quit elinenbe ("I am leaving for a very important meeting") 19.00.28 Quit webmind (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.04.23 # what means top-time? the max time that was archived without powering off archos/rockbox? 19.05.54 Join webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 19.06.22 # it's 15h24m here with IPowerUS 2100mAh ... 19.08.07 # well, but I didn't recall using the archos until the batteries were dry ... 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