--- Log for 14.02.103 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 25 days and 10 hours ago 00.25.31 Quit Galik ("Client exiting") 00.31.56 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-48-67.mia.bellsouth.net) 00.33.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.33.59 # i'm off to bed. see you later. 00.34.00 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 00.35.13 Quit malle ("Leaving") 00.39.59 # anyone seen elinenbe around? 00.45.07 Join elinenbe [0] (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 00.45.14 # wow that was fast :) 00.45.16 # heheh 00.45.26 # adi|work: what's up? 00.45.34 # well.. i hacked at sokoban... 00.45.49 # and well.. it ended up becomeing a rewrite.. same logic, overall same design 00.45.57 # yeah, haven't you been working on it? 00.46.01 # nods 00.46.02 # that's good. 00.46.06 # but you were the author 00.46.18 # yeah -- I wrote it a while back 00.46.23 # so i wanted you to look at it and correct/stop/burn/approve it :) 00.46.31 # haha -- okay I guess :) 00.46.41 # what features does it add? 00.46.47 # I haope grayscale and animation! 00.46.50 # right now, nothing 00.46.51 # lol 00.46.52 # now 00.46.52 # s/haope/hope 00.46.56 # 1. was a clean up 00.47.02 # did you just clean up the code? 00.47.02 # now comes multi level undo 00.47.06 # ah... 00.47.14 # and then comes reading the levels from a file not memory 00.47.19 # yeah -- the undo I added was just a hack 00.47.25 # hehe i noticed ;) 00.47.26 # sounds great 00.47.36 # i send it to the same email? 00.47.40 # I just saved everything in memory 00.47.45 # sure -- that will work 00.48.01 # but a bett undo would be to just save what "happened" the past move. 00.48.10 # nods 00.48.15 # that's what im planning. 00.48.16 # :) 00.48.20 # is this built on the current CVS? 00.48.30 # yeah.. 00.48.42 # I think a string on the load screen telling that there is an undo would be nice :) 00.48.52 # ahh.. good idea 00.48.57 # well, I will try it out immediatly 00.49.35 # you are on unix right? 00.49.40 # no. 00.49.42 # windows? 00.49.45 # I run windows... but I use cygwin 00.49.49 # you have tar? 00.49.53 # and gzip? 00.49.55 # yeah :) 00.50.05 # okay cool :) i don't have to unpack then :) 00.50.23 # at work I use Linux 00.51.11 # is the code smaller? simpler? cleaner? ;) 00.51.33 # cleaner yes :) 00.51.39 # simpiler, mostly 00.51.45 # smaller.. dunno.. ill check ;) 00.51.59 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m131.net81-67-41.noos.fr) 00.52.11 # i! 00.52.16 # adi: don't you live in NJ? 00.52.22 # yeah... 00.52.26 # well.. southern ny 00.52.33 # ah... same here. I am in NYC 00.52.33 # rockland county... born raised nj 00.52.37 # ahhhh 00.52.43 # I was raised in Westfield, NJ 00.52.44 # and you still use the umich account? 00.52.48 # no shit? 00.52.50 # yeah. 00.52.56 # i used to play soccer tournys there :) 00.53.00 # haha. 00.53.27 # okay.. *.h same size 00.53.32 # *.c is smaller for me 00.53.48 # about... 1.1 k 00.54.17 # but line wise.. i added 41 to .c and .h is the same 00.55.24 # btw.. ignore the parse_file :) 00.55.37 # thats a work in progress 00.55.37 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 00.55.42 Quit elinenbe ("ChatZilla 0.8.11 [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3a; MultiZilla v1.1.32 final) Gecko/20021212]") 00.55.45 # lol 00.55.50 # ignore the parse_file 00.55.51 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 00.55.53 # its a work in progress.. 00.56.18 # asi: I am trying to message you, but you do not respond! 00.56.31 # hmmm.. what protocol? 01.13.02 Quit adi|work (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.15.39 Join Galik [0] (~Galik@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 01.16.23 Join adi|work [0] (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 01.16.30 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 01.28.54 Quit BoD[] ("tcl4eva") 01.54.30 Join misanthrope [0] (~john@c66.188.225.86.euc.wi.charter.com) 02.20.46 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 02.20.46 Quit misanthrope (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.29.17 Quit s0be (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.30.19 # BrianHH: i am curious, how did the new batteries work? 02.33.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.39.34 # LinusN: Hello. 02.39.46 # LinusN: how are things with life? any better now? 02.43.08 # not really 02.43.16 # eric...what was it you said about key repeat for sokoban? 02.43.19 # that it wasn't working? 02.43.38 # i just try to do some rockbox stuff to clear my mind a little 02.44.12 # odd.. i help sick ppl to get my mind off of code 02.44.28 # :-) 02.44.47 # I got a question about the build.... 02.45.15 # When I do make apps I get lots of complaints about missing "lang.h" 02.45.22 # right 02.45.23 # but it still builds 02.45.27 # because you need to run config 02.45.29 # only the first time 02.45.40 # in your build directory.. do "../tools/configure" 02.45.55 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 02.45.55 # * adi|work wonders if thats what he was looking for 02.46.14 # I'm trying to add a demo to learn how to hack this stuff and want to add a string. So I added it to lang/english.lang 02.46.20 # is this enough? 02.47.21 # Galik: if you're using english then yeah. :) 02.47.42 # running configure doesn't produce the "lang.h" in my build directory tho but after a make apps it appears!? 02.47.44 # Galik: the english lang file is the default 02.48.07 # Without my new string i may add :( 02.48.29 # Galik: it's generated during the build 02.49.14 # So by the time the build compiles my new demo I can assume it'll be there? 02.49.25 # Galik: yeah 02.50.30 # Ahhh soz. My bad. I just assumed my string would appear in the same position as I places it in the english.lang file but it doesn't 02.51.02 # hardeeep: ty 02.56.28 # ooops it is in the same order, I just had a duplicate. Doh! 03.01.28 # Galik . basically... 03.01.32 # we have the langs files 03.01.45 # and when you do configure/make it builds the needed lang.h file 03.01.55 # based off your choices in the config process.. 03.02.05 # make sense? 03.08.13 Quit BrianHH ("See you later.") 03.08.24 # adi|work: I said it should have key repeat, but it currently does not have it. 03.09.21 # hmmmm stupid sim seems to 03.12.39 # np working now. have compiled my first demo :) 03.13.11 # :) 03.13.19 # Galik: when are you going to implement jpeg viewing.... I have cover tags in some of my ID3v2 tags. I WANT TO SEE THEM!! :) 03.13.37 # lol 03.13.37 # lmfao 03.14.01 # :P 03.15.02 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.15.41 # Weheyy well my demo workz so :P 03.16.14 # Corse all it dows is wait for u to press the stop button at the mo... 03.18.43 # thats okay.. your learning 03.21.39 Quit adi|work (Remote closed the connection) 03.26.04 Join adi|work [0] (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 03.32.41 Join Nibbler [0] (Ich@nusnet-216-213.dynip.nus.edu.sg) 03.32.43 # mornin 03.32.52 # morn 03.33.30 # i just wanted to compile a new rockbox... but i cant build the tools anymore :| tried latest 2 source packages.... 03.34.05 # was never a problem b4 (did last time about 10 days ago) 03.34.07 # using the source tarballs? 03.34.12 # yep using those 03.34.30 # use the next daily ball, the current ones are bad 03.34.38 # ah k 03.34.50 # cvs checkout is ok? 03.34.54 # yup 03.34.59 # kk, ty :) 03.35.06 # yw 03.39.01 # gr8, builds now... now for the patches :) 03.40.58 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 03.42.16 # Quick one... is there a random number function anywhere? I can't find one so far... 03.42.56 # int rand(void) 03.43.08 # what's the .h file for that? 03.43.38 # stdlib.h i think 03.43.57 # k, thnx 03.44.07 # long time since I used c.... 03.44.29 # LinusN: happy 25th Birthday! 03.44.34 Join s0be [0] (~s0be@163.118.102.31) 03.45.08 # got birthday today? happy bday then :) 03.45.48 # elinenbe: 25! I'm flattered! :-) 03.46.04 # LinusN: that is about how old you look in your picture. 03.46.26 # from rockbox devcon? 03.46.47 # from all the pictures on the web 03.46.55 # hehe i'm 34 03.47.35 # man -- you don't look that old at all. 03.48.22 # of course I may have a different perspective -- I am only 25 and I look like this: http://www.travelwiththeleague.com/Web%20images/94%20YEAR%20OLD%20MAN%20IN%20LIJIANG.jpg 03.48.24 # honestly, i don't feel that old either... :-) 03.50.13 # it's amazing what some yoghurt can do to you 03.50.21 # I know. 03.50.59 # LinusN: have you worked at all on the vbr header? 03.51.06 # oh yes 03.51.19 # it almost works 03.51.40 # LinusN: is it difficult to implement? You are always tackling the down and sirty stuff. 03.51.47 # s/sirty/dirty 03.51.48 # whats the vbr header for? (unless it is for recording) 03.52.27 # Nibbler: it is a data structure in the VBR file with information about the stream 03.52.45 # number of frames, file size, and a Table Of Contents 03.52.59 # the TOC is for quick seeking in the stream 03.53.21 # well. vbr=variable bit rate. but my rockbox already plays vbr-mp3s (thats why i dont undestand the talk bout vbr) 03.54.08 # yes it plays vbr, but rockbox can not distinguish VBR streams from CBR without the header, and not seek accurately either 03.54.34 # so the watermark calculations will be wrong, so will the bitrate and the seeking 03.55.05 # we want to create such a header when recording 03.55.16 # (the Archos firmware doesn't) 03.55.30 # ofc. it doesnt :) 03.56.44 # and after Linus is finished with that he is going to implement time streching on songs! Type in an amount of time for a song, and it will adjust the speed of playback to fit that time :) 03.56.53 # right Linus?? 03.57.37 # yes, and i will also implement Ogg Vorbis and Quake 3 03.59.16 # I have been hearing about this Quake 3 -- I can't wait. 03.59.26 # I am going to port MAME 04.02.31 # linus.. i told you my osmosifier is almost working right? 04.02.34 # its great... 04.02.43 # you just place the archos on a cd... turn it on 04.02.43 # finally! 04.02.53 # leave for 20 mins.. and *poof* mp3s automagically 04.03.07 # i only have on prob.. if you leave the jewel case on.. the music comes out muffled 04.03.23 # cool, i hope you can make it work to 2.0 04.03.36 # well.. i could.. but then i would have to kill elinenbe 04.03.43 # is it a fair trade? 04.03.51 # hey -- watch it! 04.03.59 # i say kill him 04.04.20 # :) 04.04.34 # we'll have to ask Zagor first, but i'm sure he'll approve 04.05.06 # after seeing his picture, i'd say he hasn't got much time left anyway 04.05.13 # I say we take out the haxx guys! If noe one is with me, I'll do it myself... 04.15.27 # nother question. When I do #include where does it get it from? It doesn't seem to use the one in /usr/include afaikt and there isn't one in /usr/local/sh1/include either ? 04.16.40 # after i include it RAND_MAX is not defined! otherwise the functions work as u expect. weird but true 04.17.35 # firmware/include/stdlib.h 04.17.43 # ahh thnx 04.23.45 # lol 04.24.27 # any clues on how i determine the range of the returned values from rand()? 04.24.50 # or the max value of an int even? 04.24.55 # well, it's a signed 32-bit int 04.25.02 # k, ta 04.28.23 # Galik: do you know what that means? 04.28.28 # * adi|work is just being safe 04.29.31 # yeps #define MAX_INT ( 0xEF << 24 | 0xFF << 16 | 0xFF << 8 | 0xFF ) i think ?? 04.29.55 # yeah.. but do you know what its doing? 04.30.06 # 4294967295 04.30.09 # thats the max 04.30.13 # 2^32 - 1 04.30.16 # I still don't know the range of the rand() func tho 04.30.24 # it doesn't return a range 04.30.29 # it returns an int 04.30.32 # ? 04.30.46 # if you do rand() % 10 04.30.47 # but the value it returns will fall between 2 other values 04.30.52 # you get a # between 0-9 04.30.57 # nice 04.31.00 # right... 4294967295 04.31.02 # is the max 04.31.05 # and 0 is the min 04.31.19 # but you mod it to get the value you want 04.31.23 # ahh I wasn't sure if it returned -ve nums 04.31.29 # thnx 04.31.34 # no no.. only returns 1 int 04.33.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.34.07 # Weyheyyyy that worked :) 04.34.51 # I call it a night then. 04.34.53 # nn all 04.35.17 # nite 04.35.20 # LinusN: love that last commit 04.35.31 # I think all the special screens should use the internal font! 04.36.04 # night! 04.36.08 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|sleep (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 04.36.12 # it has always tried to use the internal font, that was a bug 04.36.22 # oh! 04.36.36 # all debug screens should be internal font 04.36.41 # all games... etc. 04.36.45 Quit Galik ("Client exiting") 04.37.09 # i agree 04.37.28 # time to sleep, it's 4:30am 04.37.55 # nite all 04.38.01 Part LinusN 04.39.17 # what commit is that elinenbe|sleep? 04.42.06 # im looking for a setigroup.. any suggestions? 05.11.58 Quit _seb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.13.23 Join _seb_ [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 05.30.52 Quit Nibbler () 05.38.17 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Twat?! I cunt hear you!") 06.12.53 # * adi|work is away: home 06.33.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.57.00 Join elinenbe [0] (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 07.14.02 # so elinenbe you look over the code? 07.55.19 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@h78n2fls33o965.telia.com) 08.16.27 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.16.46 # hey! 08.25.59 Quit dw|gone ("en liten moj") 08.33.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.50.16 # moin 08.54.50 Join dwihno [0] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.55.16 Quit dwihno (Client Quit) 09.02.17 Join stefan_ [0] (~calpefros@gtso-d9bb8331.pool.mediaWays.net) 09.02.23 Nick stefan_ is now known as calpefrosch (~calpefros@gtso-d9bb8331.pool.mediaWays.net) 09.06.15 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.06.18 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.06.20 # yo 09.06.26 # hey 09.07.34 Join dwihno [0] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 09.07.39 Quit dwihno (Client Quit) 09.08.12 Join dwihno [0] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 09.21.41 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 09.21.44 # morning 09.22.19 # howdy 09.22.25 # Hola quel! 09.22.26 # Que pasa? 09.22.28 # Muy bien? 09.22.33 # hej dwihno! 09.22.39 # ha det sa bra? 09.23.00 # Oh! my god! we've changed our brains!!! nooooooooo 09.23.05 # :O 09.23.06 # :-) 09.23.09 # :) 09.23.11 # Mmm... Taco! 09.23.19 # that's mexican 09.23.21 # ;) 09.23.23 # paella 09.23.32 # paella with saffran 09.23.38 # We make lussebullar with saffran 09.23.44 # Tastes really yummy 09.23.52 # Then we eat them the 13th of december 09.23.58 # and sing lucia carols 09.24.04 # you make now and eat dec/13 ? 09.24.06 # wow 09.24.17 # Amazing, huh? :) 09.24.47 # ummm 09.24.53 # why on 13th dec? 09.27.05 # weird old swedish tradition 09.27.14 # s/swedish/christian/ 09.27.31 # well, not that christian 09.27.40 # since we're the only country that does it 09.28.00 # whoa 09.28.02 # we are? 09.28.05 # :O 09.28.19 # not even norwegians 09.28.19 # but what tradition? 09.28.28 # celebrating "St Lucia" 09.28.45 # Um... 09.29.02 # here we have "la virgen del Pilar" 09.29.16 # don't ask me to translate it 09.29.25 # virgin on a pillar? 09.29.30 # but.. i think it's the most similar tradition 09.29.40 # Schnueff: Pilar is a spanish name... 09.29.44 # :) 09.29.46 # :) 09.29.48 # Virgin without a pillow? :) 09.29.50 # *sigh* 09.30.02 # but i was going to translate that like Virgin of the Pillar 09.30.04 # :) 09.30.18 # Imagine the suffering, having to sleep without a pillow! :( 09.30.54 # imagine living before the discovery of the pillow! 09.33.26 Join Ich [0] (Ich@nusnet-216-213.dynip.nus.edu.sg) 09.33.32 Nick Ich is now known as Nibbler (Ich@nusnet-216-213.dynip.nus.edu.sg) 09.34.27 # Bagder: you forgot yesterday to update espanol.lang... 09.34.31 # tsk... tsk... 09.34.54 # bob is our lang guru 09.35.14 # well.. i asked edx to update that file 09.35.16 # :) 09.35.48 # ouch 09.35.57 # new strings at english.lang? 09.36.23 # i'll wait at least 1 week to update the file :) 09.38.53 # morning 09.42.45 # hi webmind :) 09.43.06 # Bagder.. need an opinion 09.43.22 # linus and bjorn are against typedefs correct? 09.44.13 # Zagor you around? 09.44.14 # I think Bj�rn is the biggest opponent ;-) But we're all generally FOR not doing them without good reason 09.44.35 # okay.. then let me swing this buy you 09.44.38 # i'm here. 09.44.46 # okay.. opinon needed 09.44.47 # sokoban 09.44.54 # tell me why you want a typedef and i'll tell you why you're wrong :-) 09.44.56 # must go... 09.44.59 # cu later! 09.45.06 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|coffee (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 09.45.10 # hm, would it be hard to make a full screen countdown option in the player btw? 09.45.17 # im implimenting multilevel undo, and i can either a) store the entire board, or b) store segments of the board 09.45.23 # without casing it kinda looks like a bomb. ;) 09.45.34 # webmind: :-) 09.45.35 # but the cleanest way of storing segments of the board is to do so with a structure... 09.45.50 # adi|home: then use a structure. a struct is not a typedef 09.46.01 # but I will need an array of those structures if i want to store multiple levels 09.46.11 # multiple undos i mean 09.46.29 # yes 09.46.36 # look in firmware/common/file.c for example 09.46.40 # okay 09.47.06 # no, thats not what i want 09.47.12 # i have an undo structure 09.47.24 # and in it i need an array of board segments 09.47.40 # since there is other data i need as well.. but not for each segment... 09.47.43 # that make sense? 09.47.47 # sure 09.48.04 # you have an array of segment structs inside the undo struct 09.48.14 # yes. 09.48.23 # struct undo { 09.48.36 # struct seg segments[NUM_SEGMENTS]; 09.48.38 # }; 09.49.05 # no need for typedefs 09.49.27 # what's in such a segment, out of interest? 09.49.45 # x, y, and spot 09.49.49 # k 09.49.53 # the location on the board 09.49.59 # and what is supposed to be stored there 09.50.16 # the array is then 3 large.. because any single undo can affect at most 3 spaces 09.50.21 # yeah 09.50.42 # and NUM_SEGMENTS == MAX_UNDO_LEVELS 09.50.45 # i figured this was better then storing say... 15 full boards 09.50.48 # exactly :) 09.51.08 # * adi|home likds how Schnueff thinks 09.51.40 # while(1); 09.51.45 # *yawn* :) 09.51.49 # heheh 09.55.12 # see.. the prob was simply that im an idiot 09.55.14 # i got it 09.55.18 # :-) 09.55.55 # the layout of this is definatly OO in flavor, but is not C++ so thats acceptable yes? 09.56.17 # why are structs OO? 09.56.36 # because of the way i have it layed out... its _flavored_ 09.56.40 # not OO ;) 09.56.49 # mmm, strawberry... 09.56.57 # rather have oooh!-flavored 09.57.12 # that could be arranged.. 09.57.16 # * Bagder likes cloudberries 09.57.33 # * Bagder is still left skiing in his mind 09.58.21 # yeah, cloudberries are great! 09.59.26 # creeping raspberry of north temperate regions with yellow or orange berries, hmmm 09.59.37 # correct 09.59.49 # but they're best used in jam etc, not fresh 10.02.58 # well duh... 10.03.06 # fresh cloudberries cause gas 10.06.07 # holy shit 10.06.14 # it was like 2am 2 mins ago 10.06.19 # i look up and poof its 4 am 10.06.44 # you must've fallen into a timegap! ;-) 10.06.52 # what date? 10.08.17 # hehe, very relevant question! 10.08.32 # Bobagogdoderor �ror enon bob�tot 10.08.36 # :-) 10.13.19 Part Zagor 10.13.35 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.15.19 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.28.31 Quit Nibbler () 10.29.34 # Bagder: can you look at the gdb+uisim problem? 10.29.51 # yeah.. zagor.. whats that prob you were hitting? 10.29.53 # ok 10.30.29 # Zagor: you retried with the headers removed from firmware/ ? 10.30.29 # run "gdb rockboxui" and then "run". the logo comes up, but you never get into the browser. 10.30.39 # mmm, will test again 10.31.11 # because it works for me 10.31.29 # no difference 10.31.37 # umm.. works for me 10.31.41 # i have no prob 10.31.52 # * adi|home is testing sokoban as we speak 10.31.54 # or read 10.32.00 # odd 10.33.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.33.38 # testing on another box 10.33.54 # do a make clean first 10.35.39 Part Zagor 10.35.52 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.35.55 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.36.28 # i have some problems with my x11 sim... it hangs sometimes in the sleep function 10.36.45 # hmm, works when I run it on 'labb' too. only my local box has problems. 10.36.59 # the sleep problem is the main reason I rearranged those header files 10.37.13 # ahhh, that sounds good 10.37.25 # * adi|home greps for the "if (user == Zagor) { barf() } " code 10.38.06 # it's actuall if ((user==Zagor) && (box==thatoddone)) {barf()} 10.38.26 # oh well, if it's not a general problem it's not a big issue 10.38.37 # thatoddone? 10.38.50 # yeah I only get it on one machine 10.38.58 # is that the machine name? 10.39.06 # heh 10.39.08 # nah :) 10.39.22 # ohhh.. heheh 10.39.26 # that-odd-one 10.39.29 # i was reading it wrong :) 10.39.37 # what's your time now, adi|home? :) 10.39.47 # 04:39 10.40.00 # i go on shift for my ambulance corp at 06:45 10.40.02 #