--- Log for 16.02.103 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 27 days and 9 hours ago 00.00.38 # peter : with rockbox HDD sound desapear (not fully but more than with the original firmware) 00.00.59 # Aanother time sorry for my english... 00.01.52 # you think i can get it to run on mine? 00.02.04 # archos jukebox recorder 15 00.02.06 # ?? 00.02.13 # sure 00.02.25 # it work on all jukebox 00.02.30 # hmm, ok..lll try it 00.02.32 # FM, player and recorder 00.02.44 # I ve a 10go recorder 00.02.48 # is there anyway you guys know of disabling the internal mic? 00.03.14 # Phantom: your not intrested?, it works great as an HDD, I got like 2000mhm batteries, runs great or and it also coems with the recharger adaptor 00.03.17 # what do you mean by disabling ? 00.03.23 # turning it off 00.03.32 # but when ? 00.03.42 # when you record ? 00.03.43 # i want to recordlive sound thru my directional mics 00.03.53 # but the internal mic records also 00.04.11 # so i hear me pressing the buttons, the hdd spinning 00.04.12 # ah 00.04.21 # i have never saw that 00.04.40 # well the rockbox will only use the selected way 00.04.50 # ok, wow 00.05.00 # im gonna try it now 00.05.03 # thank you 00.05.52 # Hey Phantom how much is a euro to and american dollar? 00.07.10 # about the same thinks 00.07.17 # things 00.07.34 # the euro is just a bit less 00.07.51 # ok hold on 00.11.13 # this season of buffy is good 00.11.18 # lol 00.11.28 # I ve nothing else to say 00.13.34 # it's 00:13 in france 00.13.39 # i'm a bit tired 00.17.05 # ....that's not late your only like 5 hours ahead of me 00.17.25 # hey 00.17.41 # where do i start recording on this os? 00.18.50 # no idea 00.19.03 # haha 00.19.14 # uh oh :X 00.24.56 # arg 00.25.12 # what is version do you have 00.25.29 # 1.4 00.26.00 # use the F1 buton 00.26.05 Join Galik [0] (~Galik@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 00.26.21 # in the menu there is "recording settings" 00.26.31 # in which you select the way 00.26.35 # you mean the first button out of the 3 right below the display screen on the recorder? 00.26.42 # and "recording" 00.26.46 # yes 00.26.51 # there isnt 00.27.16 # so download the last daily build 00.27.21 # there is 00.27.21 # has sound settings, general settings, games, demos, info, version, debug 00.27.40 # i was looking for it just now, where is it? 00.27.48 # got a direct link? 00.28.02 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-recorder/ajbrec.ajz 00.28.08 # here 00.28.28 # ok, once agian, thank you 00.28.38 # i imagine youre tired 00.28.44 # nothing 00.28.50 # could you give me your email if i have further questions? 00.29.34 # well i'm not one of the best 00.29.40 # but if you want 00.29.48 # phantomdjp007@voila.fr 00.29.54 # who is very knowledgable 00.30.03 # or jp-dev.null@voila.fr 00.30.20 # well 00.30.24 # when they answer 00.30.36 # almost every body here 00.31.02 # when they answer ;-) 00.31.27 # what is the irc address and channel here? ie forced me to use the java thingy 00.32.03 # freenode.net 00.32.09 # #rockbox 00.34.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.34.10 # Hey Phantom 00.34.48 Join peter11 [0] (~wounded@ool-435572bb.dyn.optonline.net) 00.35.50 Quit peter1 ("Leaving") 00.35.56 # excellent 00.36.18 # yeh ? 00.37.30 # phant, i installed that build and the normal 1.28 os loaded 00.37.57 # you are sure ? 00.38.09 # u sure its compatible with my recorder? 00.38.16 # do you name it "ajbrec.ajz" 00.38.17 # do you know how i can sell my JB? 00.38.22 # yes, ill do it agian just to be possitive 00.39.03 # 150$ is not a bad pric but maybee a bit expensive since FM recorder and Divxplayer... 00.39.20 # err, could you give me that link agian? 00.39.33 # like i said we can nigotia 00.39.42 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-recorder/ajbrec.ajz 00.39.44 # Nagoiate 00.39.52 # hmm 00.39.55 # not for me 00.40.24 # ty 00.40.33 # I don't need a JB just the 20go HDD and you don't go to give it to me for less than 100$ 00.42.53 # 138.97e 00.44.54 # 911.64frf 00.44.55 # phantom! excellent excellent excellent! i just had to find one for the 15. thanks agian 00.45.13 # no prob 00.45.18 # nosorry CW 00.45.31 Quit CW-EGM92 ("(i was using polaris) version:[2.05c] webpage:[http://www.polaris-central.com]") 00.47.48 # for last question that is now 00.47.58 # 2 minute before i leave 00.48.04 # hmm 00.48.09 # can you shuffle within queued files? 00.48.17 # no 00.48.22 # next.. 00.48.34 # is it in planning? 00.49.06 # the 2.0 is for very soon tomorrow ? 00.49.13 # so wait and see 00.49.36 # not all new feature are know 00.50.51 # next 00.51.43 # 2.0 tomorrow? 00.52.27 # that would be cool, isn't it ? 00.52.33 # no that is a joke 00.52.51 # but if linus say "soon" that must be really soon 00.53.08 # next 00.53.27 # nobody 00.53.29 # so 00.53.36 # good night all 00.53.48 # how many versions do you think we will get before rockbox development slows down to a virtual end? 00.53.59 # many 00.54.13 # :-D 00.54.16 # as linux a such good project will never stop 00.54.25 # until it is perfect 00.54.36 # well, perhaps... 00.54.39 # and in our world nothing is perfect 00.54.46 # so : never 00.55.13 # it will be stop but there is no "end" 00.55.34 # is "will" the good modal ? 00.55.50 # maybe "can" is better 00.56.04 # so another question ? 00.56.09 # 5 00.56.12 # 4 00.56.13 # 3 00.56.16 # 2 00.56.16 # 1 00.56.26 # 1/2 00.56.31 # 1/3 00.56.34 # ? 00.56.35 # 1/4 00.56.36 # 1/5 00.56.49 # ok so good night 00.56.53 # night 00.57.22 # as the end work "make peace in Irak, not war" 00.57.36 # gn 00.57.42 # thanks agian phant 00.57.42 # see you soon 00.57.47 Quit PhantomDJP ("Fermeture du client") 00.57.49 # u will :) 01.23.23 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 01.35.17 # im intrested in disabling the internal microphone on my archos jukeboz recorder 15. any help? 01.35.58 # Can't u just select line-in as the source? 01.37.12 # wont record from my external mic then 01.37.30 # not if u don't plug it in hehe 01.37.46 # :) 01.42.46 # peter11: what exactly is it that you want to accomplish? 01.43.35 # i want to be able to record varies sound of the world thru a directional mic, and get them to my pc for mixing 01.43.50 # various* 01.43.55 # through the line-in? 01.44.59 # yes, err, wait...can i do it thru the digital also? hmm, i suppose i could couldnt i...but all i have is analog mics for now so line-in it is 01.45.39 # i don't get it. you mean that you get a mix of the internal mic and the line-in when you select line-in as the source? 01.45.57 # yes, exactly 01.46.03 # with rockbox? 01.46.04 # no no 01.46.16 Join CW-EGM92 [0] (CW-EGM92@CPE000ae62f65f1-CM014340000355.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 01.46.19 # not line in as source...mic as souce 01.46.28 # Hey can a JB be used on a mac? 01.46.29 # and yes, rockbox..todays build 01.46.39 # why select mic as the source when you want to record with the line-in? 01.46.52 # CW-EGM92: yes 01.47.07 # because it doesnt pick up sound from the mic when i set the source as line-in 01.47.18 # fromthe external mic that is 01.47.23 # then you have a problem with the external mic 01.47.55 # could it be that its not amplified? 01.47.59 # indeed 01.48.11 # ummm, the JB on a mac, can it aslo be used as a harddrive? 01.48.19 # CW-EGM92: yes 01.48.20 # i donno cw 01.48.21 # kk 01.49.30 # before i go out and buy a portable amp, whats proven to work well with archos recorders? 01.50.01 # youre sure its cause its not amplified? 01.50.09 # peter11: there have been lots of discussions about external mics in all forums 01.50.23 # even in the rockbox list, check the archives 01.50.37 # and yahoo.com and funmp3players.com 01.50.39 # will do, heh, just got intrested now 01.54.28 # Hey linus u intrested in buying a JB6000 20GB? 02.09.10 # CW-EGM92: i have a JB6000 30Gb, a Recorder 40Gb and an FM recorder 20Gb :-) 02.09.55 # drawing schematics of the fm recorder as we speak 02.17.41 Quit peter11 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.34.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.57.11 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 02.58.35 Nick edx`off is now known as edx (edx@pD9EAB2B0.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.58.53 Join dh|wounded [0] (~wounded@ool-435572bb.dyn.optonline.net) 02.59.07 Nick dh|wounded is now known as wounded (~wounded@ool-435572bb.dyn.optonline.net) 03.15.16 Quit edx () 03.21.03 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-48-67.mia.bellsouth.net) 03.37.02 Part LinusN 03.42.57 Quit Galik ("Client exiting") 04.05.24 Quit _seb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.06.26 Join _seb_ [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 04.18.34 Join green_ [0] (~green@Toronto-HSE-ppp3704841.sympatico.ca) 04.20.12 Nick green_ is now known as OJ (~green@Toronto-HSE-ppp3704841.sympatico.ca) 04.21.12 Nick OJ is now known as green_ (~green@Toronto-HSE-ppp3704841.sympatico.ca) 04.23.35 Quit wounded (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.34.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.43.34 Join dh|wounded [0] (~wounded@ool-435572bb.dyn.optonline.net) 05.43.48 Nick dh|wounded is now known as wounded (~wounded@ool-435572bb.dyn.optonline.net) 06.34.07 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 07.05.55 Mode "#rockbox +o adi|home " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 07.06.24 Topic "feature freeze -- 2.0 soon -- Matthew P. 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OReilly: The newest Rockbox hero!" by adi|home (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-45.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 07.14.28 Quit wounded (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.27.32 Quit CW-EGM92 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.45.34 Join dh|wounded [0] (~wounded@ool-435572bb.dyn.optonline.net) 07.45.38 Nick dh|wounded is now known as wounded (~wounded@ool-435572bb.dyn.optonline.net) 07.52.20 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 08.34.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.23.14 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12-208-140-24.client.attbi.com) 10.23.56 # why is logbot banned? 10.24.42 # eh? 10.24.45 # ahh, nevermind, imposter logbot probably 10.24.49 # PsycoXul: check the ban list 10.24.55 # the logbot's the one who set the ban on the ban list 10.25.08 # banning somebody else 10.25.08 # heh 10.25.13 # oh 10.25.13 # heh 10.25.19 # wow i'm smart 10.25.22 # smrt! 10.25.25 # heh 10.25.40 # wooo ardour finished ./configure'ing 10.25.51 # * MeRWiN gets to leave at 8am to fly to burlington vermont this morning 10.25.57 # now lets hope it builds 10.25.59 # Ben & Jerry's here i come 10.26.03 # heh 10.26.34 # last ben & jerry's i had 10.26.35 # It's the 2nd best BJ there is :P 10.26.44 # if thats what it was, i think so but i forget for sure 10.26.51 # was the one on haight & ashbury in san fran 10.27.53 # last ben & jerry's i had was 5 hours ago 10.28.09 # that was jan 2001 10.28.09 # heh 10.28.35 # Do you know if all the problems with the JBFM have been resolved in the latest build? 10.28.41 # no clue 10.28.52 # i haven't even updated my build for a while on my player 10.28.53 # heh 10.29.02 # and i don't follow the FM status 10.29.17 # I follow more now that i have one :) 10.29.20 # i should update too 10.29.32 # I can't believe they went BACK to hardware charging in the FM 10.29.32 # one thing i asked for a long time ago was fade-to-stop and apparently thats in there now 10.29.36 # heh 10.29.44 # PsycoXul: fade sounds killer :) 10.30.30 # I wish I could update my Sony Ericsson T68i as easily as i can update the jukebox... costs me $10 every time i want to do ANYTHING with the firmware. Damn sony 10.30.38 # heh 10.30.41 # that sucks 10.30.53 # there should be some way to hax0r around that 10.31.04 # even if it involves some homebrew transmitter or something :p 10.31.45 Quit wounded (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.31.52 # speaking of transmitter's 10.32.11 # i wanna try out an idea i had for low-powered digital signal transmission 10.32.15 # There is... you used to only be able to update firmware at a SonyEricsson location (like 1 or 2 in the usa). Now there's a middleman software that makes the EMMA2 server (the updating server) think that the phone connecting to it is your phone, so anyone can do it. 10.32.18 # complicated process 10.32.31 # it basically involves transmitting at 2 set frequencies, that're resonant with each other probably 10.32.40 # and then switching one on and off for the bits 10.32.42 # you can't do it ALL by yourself 'cause it has to contact the EMMA2 server to download the boot information... encrypted with a random seed every time 10.33.03 # PsycoXul: you're full of all kinds of idea 10.33.03 # s 10.33.10 # and then the recieving end would subtract the known signal from what it recieves for one frequency 10.33.21 # leaving a signal of just the noise between the trasmitter and reciever 10.33.24 # which it then subtracts from the 2nd frequency 10.33.30 # leaving the pure digital signal 10.33.33 # or something 10.33.33 # heh 10.33.43 # and to hell with trying to "yell over the noise" worrying about SNR and etc 10.33.56 # :) 10.34.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.34.42 # though there's probably elements of that that're unnecessary and/or others that're missing, heh 10.35.03 # but it seems like something along those lines might allow for something like a watch or whatever 10.35.08 # very low-powered 10.35.15 # to be an extremely long-range tranciever 10.35.20 # with pretty high bandwidth 10.36.02 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~phil@h4609.ibc.de.easynet.net) 10.36.05 # too complicated for this late 10.36.08 # it's not really a new idea either 10.36.24 # double-coil pickups in guitars use the same anti-phase noise cancelling technique 10.36.44 # and those've been around for decades 10.36.44 # heh 10.37.46 # MeRWiN: well it's pretty simple 10.38.24 # MeRWiN: basically, you start out with a digital transmission, so instead of listening for modulations, you just look for a certain size difference in energy between the 2 signals you're recieving 10.38.28 # or such 10.38.47 # MeRWiN: that right there bypasses a lot of the signal-to-noise considerations i think 10.39.35 # still too complex 10.39.37 # what are you talking about? Symetrical line signals? 10.39.40 # MeRWiN: then there's also that 2 signals from point A to point B will probably have pretty close to the same noise as each other 10.40.18 # MeRWiN: and so you could use the noise from the constant one in anti-phase with the switching one to eliminate it 10.40.22 # in theory 10.40.23 # i dunno 10.40.30 # maybe thats not right 10.40.35 # maybe they'll have completely different noise 10.41.08 # but i dunno if the noise-cancelling would even be necessary with dual-signal binary transmission anyway 10.41.20 # langhaarrocker: i dunno 10.41.38 # langhaarrocker: i don't know any of the industry jargon or anything 10.41.52 # langhaarrocker: or if it's something thats been done or not even 10.41.52 # heh 10.42.28 # but you're talking about line out of the archos or something? 10.42.33 # no 10.42.34 # heh 10.42.47 # just a random idea for long-range low-power wireless information transmission 10.43.19 # ic 10.44.33 # woo ardour compiled 10.51.32 Quit adi|work (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10.54.50 # has anybody had a look at my osci-photos at 10.54.53 # http://www.x-phobie.de/jb_dither 10.58.12 # heh 10.58.18 # thats uh 10.58.19 # interesting 10.58.46 # I'm surpriset that the jukebox sounds that good now. 10.58.52 # yeah 11.00.18 # And for a digital device I'm surprised that it has 5 output 'values'. 5 is not a power of 2. 11.02.28 # yeah i dunno 11.02.59 # have you tried different freq/amplitudes and oscilloscope resolutions to see if you can ever get more or less than 5 levels? 11.03.47 # and thinking of it in terms of AC, 5 levels would be +/- 2 11.04.04 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB2B0.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.04.11 # only servaral frequencies like 1kHz, 15kHz and 20 kHz. 11.04.41 # 15kHz would display as a mess and 20kHz not at all. 11.04.45 # heh 11.04.51 # fun 11.05.16 # try like 100hz or something 11.05.54 # what would you want to investigate at 100 Hz? 11.06.10 # i dunno 11.06.39 # just to see if the signal's still so aliased or whatever 11.06.45 # *shrug* 11.08.42 # I don't think that you would see much difference. I'd like to use higher frequencies because then we might be able to see both - the signal frequency and the 'dither-frequency' at once. At 1 kHz the 'dither-frequency' was much to high to be visualized. 11.10.11 # my rockbox isn't building 11.10.12 # grr 11.10.36 # make[1]: *** No rule to make target `config.h', needed by `/home/Administrator/r 11.10.36 # ockbox/build/backlight.o'. Stop. 11.10.41 # it was building a while ago 11.10.45 # about a week :P 11.11.57 # I haven't build anything for a _very_ long time but I read something about a new include structure recently. Might that be the problem? 11.12.51 # i'm deleting everything and starting fresh 11.12.53 # let's see how that works 11.13.23 # why delete and not simply use a clean cvs tree for a test? 11.14.04 # i'm deleting everything in the apps firmware and tools folder and doing a cvs co on those three again 11.14.08 # doesn't take too long :P 11.14.14 # still the same error 11.14.28 # :( I'm not much help 11.15.03 # ardour: [ERROR]: No on/off button pixmaps found to match rec-enable-button[0-9]*.xpm$ 11.15.06 # ugh whyyyyyyyy 11.15.09 # hah 11.16.03 # * PsycoXul wonders what that $ is and if that has anything to do with it 11.16.12 # i haven't seen $$$ in a long time 11.16.12 # :P 11.18.29 # holy shit 11.18.33 # the binary for this thing is 80MB 11.18.52 # and it supposedly uses dynamic linking to access all it's main functions 11.18.53 # heh 11.19.30 # yay it worked 11.19.36 # heh 11.19.39 # what worked 11.19.57 # a delete of the entire rockbox folder and re-checking out 11.20.15 # heh 11.20.17 # ah yeah 11.20.31 # man 11.20.39 # i wish vim would load 80MB files like in a few seconds 11.20.45 # and i wish it had hexediting too 11.20.47 # :P 11.20.49 # vim with hexediting would own 11.22.49 # i use FHRED for hex editing 11.22.50 # win32 11.22.56 # the best damn hex editor around 11.23.31 # if ((rec_enable_buttons = get_pix (Config->get_pixmap_path(), 11.23.32 # "^rec-enable-button[0-9]*.xpm$")) == 0) { 11.23.57 # ok weird but i guess it means to have it like that as part of the pattern matching 11.24.19 # oh maybe i forgot to export these var's it needs heh 11.24.39 # ah 11.24.39 # heh 11.28.07 # uNF 11.28.19 # ardour works 11.28.25 # and it seems that it may even own 11.32.10 # heh 11.32.15 # though it just segfaulted for no good reason 11.35.38 Quit MeRWiN () 12.26.36 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB3892E.ipt.aol.com) 12.26.36 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.27.23 # morning all rockboxers 12.27.24 # :) 12.33.51 Join Dario [0] (~dcpalm@p508F66B2.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.34.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.34.25 # Hi Dario 12.34.31 # Hi All 12.36.15 # how r ya? 12.36.26 # I'm fine 12.36.31 # cool 12.36.45 # im still trying to get Rockbox compiler to work on my system 12.37.05 # I compile under W2K 12.37.11 # works fine 12.38.11 # what do you use, GNUSH or Cygwin? 12.38.31 # Cywin 12.38.41 # As described in: "Setting up a minimal Win32 SDK" 12.38.46 # http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html 12.40.49 Join PhantomDJP [0] (Durand@ASte-Genev-Bois-109-1-4-234.abo.wanadoo.fr) 12.40.50 Quit tracktheripper (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.43.45 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@12-208-140-24.client.attbi.com) 12.44.00 # so what is the thing next to the time in the rec's WPS? in []'s 12.45.14 # ahh, track number :P 12.45.16 # makes sense 12.45.27 # what doesn't make sense is why i'm talking to myself 12.45.28 # hmm 12.49.17 # Don't know 12.52.55 Part Dario 13.04.02 # question for a kick/ban : when the 2.0 will be release ??? 13.04.14 # what are the features ? 13.04.16 # lol 13.04.25 # don't need answer 13.14.01 Quit PhantomDJP ("Fermeture du client") 13.27.20 Quit MeRWiN () 13.33.49 Join Galik [0] (~Galik@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 13.41.26 # [C]W[L][GiRL is killing people. !gameinfo for more info. 13.41.46 # I've stopped killing people now! 13.42.38 # [C]W[L][GiRL is killing people. !gameinfo for more info. 13.56.52 # I've stopped killing people now! 14.07.08 # hmm 14.07.17 # with the fade to stop i hear a stutter of full volume at the end of the fade 14.08.19 Quit Galik ("Client exiting") 14.14.34 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.134) 14.14.35 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.25.23 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB41CB4.ipt.aol.com) 14.26.04 # Hiiiiiii :) 14.31.17 Join Galik [0] (~Galik@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 14.31.22 Part Galik ("Client exiting") 14.32.09 Join Galik [0] (~chatzilla@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 14.32.26 # Hey Galik :-) 14.32.35 # lo track: 14.32.42 # err tracktheripper 14.32.54 # lo to u as well :-) 14.33.18 # ive had enough of Cygwin so im gonna try Gnush instead 14.33.45 # :-) 14.34.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.34.57 # u couldn't get gcc to work? 14.35.09 # nah 14.35.12 # im gonna try Gnush 14.35.12 # seems more idiot-proof 14.35.23 # lol 14.35.54 # since Gnush is one large download exe file not several tiny files 14.36.18 # If I can get Gnush to work the first thing im gonna do is write an ID3 tag inputer for recording 14.37.34 # :-) 14.38.00 # actually that should read "If I can get Gnush to work the first thing im gonna do is TRY to write an ID3 tag inputer for recording 14.38.05 # :-) 14.38.28 # heh it'll prolly take a little time to learn C first :) 14.38.41 # U got a book? 14.39.29 # ive got a C++ book for dummies lying around somewhere :) 14.39.39 # Cool :) 14.39.53 # :) 14.40.44 # well actually im gonna try doing a basic firmware and see if i can improve it like Rockbox 14.41.36 # it was funny what happened to Badger sometime ago 14.42.02 # someone subbmitted a reqest saying "Make the normal Recorder pick up FM like the FM recorder :) ) 14.42.57 # erm 14.43.14 # is Gnush just a compiler? Can Gnush be used to write the firmware? 14.43.14 Join breaker [0] (~mail@isdn216-61.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) 14.43.42 # I don't know anything about gnush :/ 14.43.55 # ohh 14.44.28 # :( 15.03.19 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 15.24.40 Join PhantomDJP [0] (Durand@ASte-Genev-Bois-109-1-4-234.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.38.07 Join smeagol [0] (~yeppey@hehe.xs4all.nl) 15.38.35 Quit PhantomDJP (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.39.30 Join ghosty [0] (Knafo@ASte-Genev-Bois-109-1-4-234.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.39.34 # hi 15.39.39 # I ve a question 15.39.40 # hi ghosty 15.40.08 # what will be the difference betwen 2.0 and the last daily build ? 15.40.21 # * smeagol doesn't know 15.41.10 # * ghosty as well that is why he ask 15.41.24 # * smeagol nods 15.52.15 # adi, you are an OP you must know 16.06.34 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.20.46 Join edx [0] (~jirc@user-112urs5.biz.mindspring.com) 16.21.04 # hello 16.21.29 # somebody can help me with the archos 6 gig recorder ? 16.22.12 # not sure if I can help, but watcha need? 16.26.36 Quit edx ("Leaving") 16.30.05 Quit Galik ("ChatZilla 0.8.13c [Mozilla rv:1.3b/20030211]") 16.30.05 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 16.32.17 Quit breaker () 16.34.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.34.36 Quit ghosty ("Fermeture du client") 16.35.24 Join PhantomDJP [0] (Durand@ASte-Genev-Bois-109-1-4-234.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.35.30 # hi 16.37.03 # so everybody sleep 16.44.56 # uhm 16.45.05 # * smeagol is a awake 16.51.59 Join SeeSchloss [0] (~SeeSchlos@134.108-30-212.9massy1-1-ro-as-i3-1.9tel.net) 16.56.56 Join Tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB41CB4.ipt.aol.com) 16.57.13 # Hi 16.57.43 # Ive just extracted the rockbox.gz file, how do I go about tweaking the different files? 17.00.00 # have you read the FAQ? 17.00.06 # i need help, badly 17.00.19 # by tweaking you mean recompiling the source? 17.00.48 # yea recompiling it back into the AJBREC.AJZ file 17.00.57 # and by making various alterations to the code 17.01.04 # uhm do you have linux or windows? 17.01.06 # what do you want to tweak ? what is your operating system 17.01.11 # lol 17.01.14 # Windows 17.01.17 # ah ok 17.01.17 # windows XP 17.01.29 # I can see different files like H file, C file and so on 17.01.41 # they open up in Notepad as a jumble of letters 17.02.07 # Tracktheripper: download textpad (www.textpad.com) 17.02.14 # that's a better text editor 17.02.31 # ok 17.02.44 # Do i just tweak the different files in Notepad or Textpad? 17.02.50 # as for compiling under windows see: http://rockbox.haxx.se/sh-win/ 17.03.31 # as for tweaking the files, sorry can't help ya. I'm just a humble enduser 17.03.55 # does compiling mean to turn everything back into the ajbrec.ajz file? 17.04.06 # as far as I know yes 17.04.17 # take a look at that webpage I gave you 17.04.24 # everything you need is there I guess 17.05.13 # thanx 17.05.18 # n/p 17.05.23 # :) 17.05.35 # im still keen to learn how to program the firmware for the Archos 17.06.12 # good luck ;-) 17.06.46 # :) 17.07.06 # but can simple tweaks like backlight on-off be done in Notepad? 17.07.16 # umh 17.07.26 # if I am correct, that is allready possible 17.07.36 # what version have you loaded on your archos? 17.07.48 # oh by the way how do I turn the ajbrec.ajz file back to its source code? 17.08.10 # you have to grab the source from the website 17.08.51 # i meant if i wanted to turn the ARCHOS ajbrec.ajz file back to its code? 17.09.01 # see: http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/ (under "source code") 17.09.28 # thanx Im gonna give that a go and see how I get on 17.09.37 # okay 17.10.11 # thankx for ur help 17.10.11 # though 17.10.15 # track> good luck, the firmware is an hard thing 17.10.25 # yea 17.10.48 # youve seen my requests in Sourceforge. Now I want a go at fixing requests :) 17.10.53 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EABFC3.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.12.01 Quit Tracktheripper ("Leaving") 17.37.07 Quit PhantomDJP ("Fermeture du client") 17.44.37 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-48-67.mia.bellsouth.net) 17.56.26 Join Galik [0] (~Galik@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 17.56.45 Join PhantomDJP [0] (Durand@ASte-Genev-Bois-109-1-4-234.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.57.37 Quit PhantomDJP (Client Quit) 18.34.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.38.08 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB6D61B.ipt.aol.com) 18.41.27 # Where is the PATH for installing Cygwin? 18.41.47 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 18.50.36 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 19.07.34 # [C]W[L][GiRL is killing people. !gameinfo for more info. 19.14.05 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~phil@h4462.ibc.de.easynet.net) 19.25.09 # I've stopped killing people now! 19.25.20 # why? none left? 19.26.26 # nope. all dead :) 19.27.34 # Is it possible to encode an mp3 from a wav file on disk? Or does it have to come from external source? 19.28.13 # You need the pc to encode on disc. 19.28.47 # there's no converter in the archos firmware - would be horribly slow anyway. With a 12 MHz processor without fpu... 19.29.00 # But the recorder surly has a DSP for it? 19.29.19 # yes, but that is 'only' realtime. 19.29.36 # ie only from external source? 19.29.50 # yes. We can't put *.wav files into it. 19.29.57 # k 20.09.04 # [C]W[L][GiRL is killing people. !gameinfo for more info. 20.09.05 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.34.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.38.21 Quit SeeSchloss ("@+ les filles") 20.43.13 # I've stopped killing people now! 20.47.17 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB4AA55.ipt.aol.com) 20.47.48 # hi 20.51.16 # ive totally given up 20.51.24 # hi 20.51.30 # whasup? 20.51.32 # hi Smea 20.51.44 # Ive tried, and tried, and tried and still cant work it 20.51.53 # you mean compiling? 20.51.56 # so im just gonna stick to the non-programm side of things 20.51.57 # yea 20.52.12 # hrm you did load the software that is needed? 20.52.24 # yes 20.52.33 # downloaded all the downloads 20.52.40 # so im just gonna throw in the towel 20.52.50 # hrmz 20.52.57 # let me try it 20.53.08 # just to install the compiler that is 20.53.11 # its alright Smea. You know how but I don't 20.53.14 # I use xp aswell 20.53.14 # don't worry about it 20.53.25 # nope i do not know how 20.53.36 # just gone have a go at it 20.54.11 # its alright 20.54.14 # :) 20.55.50 # im just gonna leave the coding to Bjorn and co 20.56.35 # ok 20.56.45 # but cheers for ur effort 20.56.53 # much appreciated 20.57.26 # did you get the compiler stuff? 20.57.28 # its a shame because i really want to write an ID3 tag editor 20.57.36 # * smeagol hates registrating :-( 20.57.44 # I wanted to write an ID3 tag editor more than anything else 20.58.05 # All I want added to Recording is an ID3 tag editor 20.58.13 # * smeagol nods 20.58.29 # but did you score the gnush software? 20.59.30 # couldn't get it to work 20.59.44 # but im gonna give up incase I damage my computer 20.59.49 # :-( 20.59.52 # what happened? 20.59.57 # oh 20.59.59 # oops misread 21.00.02 # incase 21.00.13 # uhm why would it damage your puter? 21.00.27 # well since I don't wanna upset my Windows installation 21.00.34 # ah ok 21.00.45 # but it won't kill your windows 21.00.49 # Why can't someone write an ID3 tag editor like the Archos firmware? 21.01.05 # dunno 21.01.16 # perhaps someone is already doing it 21.01.23 # Id like to see the demos dropped and some recording features introduced 21.01.54 # The demos are pointless as far as im concerned 21.02.07 # Keep the games but lose the demos 21.02.21 # perhaps keep all of it and add your thingy 21.02.31 # yea but I can't program 21.02.36 # * smeagol neither 21.02.38 # :-) 21.02.59 # Even if I could import the ID3 tag editor from the Archos firmware and plonk it in Rockbox i'd to that 21.03.02 # * smeagol is just your humble enduser 21.03.09 # me as well 21.03.09 # :) 21.03.30 # Bjorn made me laugh one time 21.04.01 # how's that 21.04.15 # One feature request was "Partition the drive" 21.04.25 # uh oh 21.04.46 # Bjorn's reply was "Rejected. There is no reason why Rockbox would partion the Archos drive. Do you ask Winamp to partition your desktop PC's drive?" 21.04.58 # heh 21.05.15 # :) 21.05.36 # what kind of archos do you own? 21.05.50 # I have a beloved Jukebox Recorder 10 21.05.58 # ah ok 21.06.03 # what do u have? 21.06.08 # recorder 20 21.06.16 # cool 21.06.17 # just saving up for a bigger drive 21.06.20 # :) 21.06.26 # it's the best thing I bought in years 21.06.36 # Everyone knows about my infamous request :-) 21.06.40 # much better then cd or minidisc stuff 21.06.47 # yea 21.07.09 # although apple's ipod doesn't suck either 21.07.15 # but a lil expensive 21.07.21 # the Ipod looks kinda "boring" 21.07.41 # hey it can boot linux nowerdays (so I've heard) 21.07.45 # lol 21.07.52 # but I agree Ipod looks to slick 21.08.01 # too 21.08.06 # hrm 21.08.11 # you know what I mean 21.08.11 # I look forward for the Archos to transform voice recordings into .txt files :-) 21.08.16 # heh 21.08.21 # yea 21.08.27 # did you ever use the recorder function? 21.08.41 # yea I use it to digitally record streaming Internet audio 21.08.46 # heh 21.08.57 # i have a SPDIF digital cable lying around 21.09.03 # nice 21.09.14 # :) 21.09.26 # cant tell which is the source and the recording :-) 21.09.31 # in digital recording mode 21.09.36 # very nice 21.10.04 # bye bye DAT ;-) 21.10.15 # I recorded a CD via the digital out on the sound card to the digital In on the Archos and there is NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER in sound quality in Hi-Quality MODE 21.11.24 # Who needs WAV recording when the highest digital recordings in MP3 format via the Archos are indistinguishable from the source? 21.11.54 # yeah but archos does 128 right not higher? 21.12.17 # The Archos will go as high as 160kbs. The Archos records in VBR 21.12.23 # ah ok 21.13.04 # No-one uses wav these days 21.13.47 # nope 21.13.57 # mp3 does rule 21.14.08 # What do u think has better sound quality, MP3 or WMA? 21.14.13 # mp3 21.14.28 # WMA sounds downright rough in the treble 21.14.36 # What MP3 rate do u encode at? 21.14.46 # 192 21.14.54 # yea same here, 192 CBR 21.15.15 # quality / size ratio is fine for me 21.15.18 # perfect CD Sound 21.15.20 # yea 21.15.21 # yup 21.15.28 # its pointless going above 192kbs 21.15.52 # well some say it's better (my ears do not hear the difference though) 21.16.10 # perhaps I need to upgrade my hearing... 21.16.20 # besides if u encode at 320kbs it drains the battery as the HD has to keep spinning constantly 21.16.53 # yup and it eats hd size 21.16.58 # true 21.17.06 # The Ipod uses the unreliable Toshiba HD 21.17.18 # in all the versions? 21.17.22 # thats why early Archos players had drive trouble 21.17.25 # it's smaller disc 21.17.30 Quit Gissehel (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.17.40 # Early Archoses used the Toshiba drive 21.17.44 # ah ok 21.17.48 # but since they changed to the more reliable Hitachi drive 21.18.12 # funny I have a toshiba laptop 21.18.20 # lol 21.18.22 # wich had a 6 gig drive 21.18.26 # well u have been lucky so far :-) 21.18.30 # I am looking at it right now 21.18.38 # nah i had an upgrade 21.18.42 # 60 gb now 21.19.27 # :- 21.19.28 # :-) 21.19.43 # Same reason why some Creative Lab Nomad 3s are playing up 21.20.01 # hrm never heard of those beasts 21.20.11 # what are those? also with adh? 21.20.14 # well they also use the dicky Toshiba drive 21.20.19 # ah ok 21.20.43 # I had a Creative Labs once 21.20.49 # the battery life is sooooooooo poor! 21.21.09 # yeah battery life of the archos was one of the big plusses 21.21.14 # lol 21.21.15 # 10 hours straight! 21.21.19 # that is very long 21.21.25 # non proprietory batterys as well! 21.21.51 # yup 21.21.55 # :) 21.22.03 # did you disassemble your archos yet? 21.22.18 # well only removed the front to remove dust behind the LCD 21.22.22 # ah ok 21.22.26 # havent accessed the hard drive 21.23.03 # I dont really need a big HD right now 21.23.08 # 10 Gigs suits me ok 21.23.33 # hey is it allready possible to play random songs from the directories? 21.23.45 # no you have to make a playlist to do that 21.23.53 # 10 gb is enough, I use the rest for backup purposes 21.23.59 # yea 21.24.06 # the recorder 20 does USB 2.0 21.24.20 # yea but USB1 suits me okay 21.24.26 # im not impatient :-) 21.24.30 # heh ok 21.24.48 # hey gonna eat sumthin 21.24.52 # okay 21.24.54 # speak to you later 21.25.00 # nice chattin :-) 21.25.04 # yup :-) 21.25.05 # l8r 21.25.14 # take care ;-) 21.25.19 # thnx 21.25.20 # you 2 21.25.29 # cheers;-) 21.25.55 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 21.28.33 Join Gissehel [0] (gissehel@AFontenayssB-105-1-4-42.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.06.08 Quit Galik (Remote closed the connection) 22.08.35 Join Galik [0] (~Galik@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 22.08.49 # Galik is killing people. !gameinfo for more info. 22.17.41 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~phil@h4535.ibc.de.easynet.net) 22.34.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.43.35 Join y0m [0] (~y0m@y0m.net) 22.43.36 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.52.48 Join PhantomDJP [0] (Durand@ASte-Genev-Bois-109-1-4-234.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.53.00 # !gameinfo 22.53.11 # lol 22.56.55 # I've stopped killing people now! 22.57.02 # !gameinfo 22.57.07 # lol 23.05.33 Join MeRWiN [0] (~merwin@216.155.172.225) 23.05.40 # yoyo 23.11.48 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB4AA55.ipt.aol.com) 23.14.52 # Hi 23.15.46 # hi 23.16.06 # hi phantom 23.18.29 # bye 23.18.36 # seeya:) 23.18.45 # my bed look me with beautifull eyes 23.19.01 # lol got someone wiv u? :-) 23.19.07 # no 23.19.27 Quit PhantomDJP ("Fermeture du client") 23.19.29 # awwwww 23.20.38 # hy Smeag :-) 23.31.53 # Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 23.33.19 # im bored 23.33.20 # :( 23.36.23 Quit MeRWiN ()