--- Log for 21.02.103 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 month and 2 days ago 00.02.02 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 00.02.02 Quit windchill (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.02.11 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.05.22 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~phil@h4716.ibc.de.easynet.net) 00.11.05 Quit elinenbe_ ("ChatZilla 0.8.11 [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3a; MultiZilla v1.1.32 final) Gecko/20021212]") 00.25.48 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.148) 00.25.49 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.25.49 Quit Jet8810 (Connection reset by peer) 00.28.25 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.148) 00.28.26 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.29.07 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-48-67.mia.bellsouth.net) 00.31.44 Quit edx () 00.34.21 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.36.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.38.34 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EABBE8.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.41.18 Quit edx (Client Quit) 01.03.43 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 01.19.41 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 02.28.58 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.148) 02.28.58 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.36.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.37.39 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.148) 02.37.39 Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.47.16 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.148) 02.47.16 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.47.46 Part LinusN 02.54.20 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 02.55.05 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 02.55.14 # LinusN: nice commits 02.55.24 # :-) 03.11.01 # what i miss? 03.14.42 # the fm recorder idle poweroff fix 03.17.36 Join datazone [0] (~datazone@207.136.36.203) 03.21.30 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 03.22.24 Join bombadier337 [0] (~mike@pcp02878733pcs.cnorth01.va.comcast.net) 03.23.21 # i hope someone can test those fm changes soon 03.46.47 # testing it now LinusN 03.48.14 # worked a treat 03.49.25 # great 03.51.52 # why cant rockbox support 999 songs per directory anyway? 03.52.03 # design decision 03.52.09 # its a soft limit 03.52.18 # no work around? 03.52.29 # well, its in software 03.52.40 # so why not support more though? Doesn't seem liek a lot to ask 03.52.48 # theres no real ned for it, but if you really wanted, compile your own version with it 03.52.51 # if you want to have less scrolling, then deal with it yourself :) 03.52.52 # memory 03.53.01 # hmm 03.53.19 # I dont really want it, but friends seem to agree it is the only overlooking at Archos firmware beats rockbox in this regard 03.53.26 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#53 03.55.18 Quit bombadier337 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03.59.02 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 04.01.37 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.148) 04.01.37 Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.07.29 # hehe you have serious issues if you have more then 400 songs per dir... 04.07.36 # i don't know wtf those ppl are talking about 04.09.10 # me neither 04.12.13 # nite 04.12.16 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.12.20 Part LinusN 04.12.54 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.148) 04.36.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.38.43 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.148) 04.38.43 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.47.23 Join onree [0] (~onree@ool-4355bb71.dyn.optonline.net) 04.48.30 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.48.59 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.148) 04.50.02 Part onree 05.04.56 Join yrneh [0] (~onree@ool-4355bb71.dyn.optonline.net) 05.05.07 Part yrneh 05.07.16 Join onree [0] (~onree@ool-4355bb71.dyn.optonline.net) 05.08.58 Part onree 05.11.13 Join onree [0] (~onree@ool-4355bb71.dyn.optonline.net) 05.18.51 Part onree 05.42.35 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.148) 05.42.36 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.08.28 Join onree [0] (~onree@ool-4355bb71.dyn.optonline.net) 06.08.51 # hello rockbox people 06.09.22 # anyone home? 06.10.30 # whats up? 06.10.51 # nothing incredibly important -- just trying out IRC for the first time in 10 years 06.11.09 # also wanted to say that although I don't own a jukebox yet, I'm amazed at what you guys have done 06.11.18 # am now shopping for one 06.12.44 # have been reading the faqs and mailing list stuff, it's all pretty fascinating 06.13.28 # do you have recommendation between ajbr and fm? it sounds like it's kind of a toss-up (fm vs battery) 06.18.46 # sorry.. was away.. give me a min to catch up :) 06.19.00 # hmm okay 06.19.04 # well.. my opinion is the rec 06.19.12 # because i like the idea of replaceable batteries 06.19.15 # and i don't need a radio. 06.19.15 # yeah me too 06.19.31 # course.. i only bought the recorder for the display... cause the player's sucks :) 06.20.36 # so -- I'm waiting for a good price on a jukebox but am dying to get one and try out rockbox 06.20.49 # I'm not much of a programmer, but do you need testers? 06.21.45 Quit seb-sleep (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.22.25 # always :) 06.22.46 # and we _always_ need ppl to proof read the websites and write documentation 06.23.19 # now that's definitely something I can do 06.24.04 # sweet... 06.26.02 # okay -- well thanks for the time, I'll pop in again after I get something to run rockbox on 06.27.00 # hehe good luck 06.30.40 Part onree 06.36.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.38.20 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.148) 06.38.21 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.20.13 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.88) 07.28.44 Quit ken0 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.41.37 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.88) 07.41.37 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.43.55 Join tachyon [0] (~tachyon@pool-151-201-120-16.pitt.east.verizon.net) 07.47.15 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.245) 07.52.27 Quit ken0 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.59.56 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.245) 07.59.56 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.17.19 Part tachyon 08.22.09 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 08.25.51 Quit ken0 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.36.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.39.32 Quit smeagol () 08.49.31 Join Bagder [0] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) 08.51.43 # bagder.. well timed 08.51.47 # question for you 08.51.59 # hey ho 08.52.08 # * Bagder spotted the ALL GREEN table row 08.52.21 # hehe 08.52.30 # okay.. on the docs index page.. i made 'hacker' a link 08.52.35 # but its the wrong size.. 08.52.40 # how can i adjust the size of a link? 08.52.43 # text is fine 08.52.53 # yeah its probably a css issue somehow 08.54.25 # nods 08.54.36 # k.. so i get to yell at zagor? :) 08.54.41 # I think so 08.54.49 # I'm really not very good at css things 08.56.06 # plugging in usb.. wish me luck.. 08.56.10 # i may need a reboot 08.56.17 # good luck 08.59.56 # good so far :)_ 09.00.31 # how does one delete? 09.00.36 # i haven't stayed up on it 09.03.28 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.03.33 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.03.34 # morning 09.03.42 # moring 09.03.54 # is that an adjective? ;) 09.04.05 # nods 09.04.06 # it is the way i spell :) 09.04.39 # zagor... 09.04.48 # on the docs/index.html page i made a header a link 09.04.59 # it should appear at h2, but it comes out smaller... any ideas? 09.05.22 # the word hackers? 09.06.09 # yup 09.07.07 # you can't point to esr's page because it is randomly redirecting 09.08.01 Part Zagor 09.08.12 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.08.15 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.10.53 # css fixed 09.12.31 # k 09.12.33 # ty 09.13.46 # hmmm... odd.. i created a basic .cfg file and its not working 09.14.15 # lang: /.rockbox/fonts/iso8859-5.fnt 09.14.15 # wps: /.rockbox/driving.wps 09.14.22 # assuming the files are there.. should work no? 09.14.37 # yup 09.14.45 # but don 09.14.50 # 't put a font in the lang tag :-) 09.15.00 # doh.. that would do it :) 09.15.03 # * adi|home blushes 09.17.21 # hmm.. no go 09.22.53 # morning 09.27.54 # ahhh.. it _is_ a bug 09.28.08 # strncpy(global_settings.font_file, value, MAX_FILENAME); 09.28.18 # maxfilename is 20 09.28.23 # thats not good.. 09.29.23 # zagor.. when we want to load a wps, font, or lang file from the config... 09.29.33 # are we assuming that it can be anywhere on the drive? 09.29.35 # that's just filename, not path 09.29.50 # right.. but when we read from config.. do we want the path? 09.29.53 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.29.54 # no 09.30.01 # good morning all! 09.30.02 # or, wait 09.30.09 # how do we know where the file is located w/o it? 09.30.10 # .cfg files must contain full path 09.30.14 # nods 09.30.24 # and right now path can't exceed 20 :) 09.30.24 # the settings block is only updated if the file is in the /.rockbox dir 09.30.47 # but if i load a config from outside the .rockbox dir.. it should still work no? 09.30.47 # adi|home: correct. that's a mistake for font. lang and wps works correctly. 09.30.57 # k 09.31.10 # ill fix 09.31.20 # same solution as the other 2 okay? 09.31.24 # yes 09.34.12 # cfg_load() any prob if i put that in the settings.c file? 09.34.15 # dunno where else to put it 09.34.34 # what's cfg_load? 09.34.41 # the new function 09.34.50 # we have wps_load and lang_load 09.35.00 # grrr.. sorry.. tired 09.35.04 # :-) 09.35.59 # there already is a font load :) 09.36.05 # yes 09.42.42 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 09.42.48 # morning 09.43.03 # if i can say this is a good morning 09.43.41 # Muy bien! :D 09.44.16 # zagor.. im a bit confused 09.44.36 # in settings.c the only play we call font_load we don't store the returning struct 09.44.49 # so how does that exactly store the font? 09.44.54 # the filename i mean? 09.45.34 # it doesn't. the call is in settings_apply(), which uses the setting. not changes it. 09.45.35 # i think font_load in this sense is diff from what we want... 09.46.20 # not really 09.46.44 # look at settings.c:119 how wps is handled. font should be handled exactly the same wya 09.47.17 # are we looking at diff settings.c? 09.47.23 # my 119 puts me in the middle of a comment 09.47.27 # 1: try to load the font 2: if font loaded successfully, store it in settings using set_file() 09.47.37 # maybe mine is old. hang on. 09.48.06 # nope, yours is old :-) 09.48.11 # version 1.120 09.48.21 # thats what i have 09.48.23 # oh, but actually I meant line 880 :-) 09.48.33 # do as I mean, not as I say... 09.48.42 # heheh 09.51.08 # okay.. then the font_load isn't working as it should 09.51.15 # i still come back with the full path 09.51.33 # before calling it.. my path is "/.rockbox/fonts/fontname.fnt" 09.52.06 # after it, the global_settings.font_file is /.rockbox/fonts/font" 09.52.17 # the wps_load works as expected 09.57.36 # Bagder: did my opinion about cygwin and gnush help you? 09.58.13 # font_load does not change the global setting. you need to call set_file() for that. 09.59.06 # else if (!strcasecmp(name, "font")) { 09.59.06 # if (font_load(value)) 09.59.06 # set_file(value, global_settings.font_file, MAX_FILENAME); 09.59.06 # } 09.59.27 # right.. im playing with that now... 09.59.34 # but thats not the problem 09.59.39 # _value_ is still too long 09.59.43 # and gets truncated 10.00.04 # set_file parses the path and only stores the relevant part 10.00.35 # no.. there is a logic error 10.00.58 # one sec.. stepped past it.. 10.01.31 # okay.. in set_file 10.01.32 Join this [0] (jirc@ACB6E57F.ipt.aol.com) 10.01.37 Quit this (Client Quit) 10.01.39 # if (strcmp(ROCKBOX_DIR, filename) || (len-extlen > maxlen)) 10.01.39 # return; 10.02.02 # what do we expect this to do? 10.02.11 Join this_is_not_poss [0] (jirc@ACB6E57F.ipt.aol.com) 10.02.19 Quit this_is_not_poss (Client Quit) 10.02.27 # abort storing the setting if a) the path is not /.rockbox or b) the filename is >20 chars 10.03.09 # (gdb) p filename 10.03.09 # $21 = 0xbffff56a "/.rockbox/fonts" 10.03.12 # im at that piont in code 10.03.22 # the comparison returns -1 10.03.27 # hmm, odd 10.03.31 # nods 10.03.37 # p fptr 10.03.50 # 0xbffff57a "iso8859-5.fnt" 10.03.54 # which is correct 10.03.55 # * Zagor engages the adi gdb proxy :) 10.03.58 # heheh 10.04.01 # hehe 10.04.02 # ah 10.04.10 # gdb --over-irc --with-comments 10.04.14 # its not expecting the full path 10.04.19 # well, then it's working correctly. only the /.rockbox path is allowed. not /.rockbox/fonts/ 10.04.25 # nods 10.04.39 # which is against what we say in the docs 10.04.51 # so we need to either fix the docs, or fix the code 10.04.52 # is it? ok we should fix the docs then 10.04.56 # nods 10.05.18 Quit quelsaruk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.05.30 # will you fix that? 10.06.33 # well.. it seems we don't make mention of the fact that if you load from the config, that the files need to not be in subdirectories... that i can do... 10.06.46 # we just say 'they need to be in the .rockbox directory' 10.06.50 # so i can update that... 10.07.09 # but seems like an odd limitation.. maybe a fix int he future/ 10.07.23 # the limitation is in the data length. 10.07.27 # at least for .cfg files 10.07.33 # .cfg files are not limited 10.07.36 # k 10.07.40 # only the persistent settings 10.08.07 # right.. but if the .cfg can't load something in the sub dirs because of it, then it is a limitation 10.08.42 # the .cfg can load it, it just cannot set the persistent setting to the value. so it will work fine, it will just not be reloaded at next boot. 10.08.52 # no 10.09.01 # if that were the case, the font im using would load 10.09.02 # but it doesn't 10.09.25 # then you should debug font_load(). set_file has nothing to do with the actual font loading. 10.09.28 # but long path not starting with /.rockbox will be loaded 10.09.34 # right? 10.09.43 # hmm 10.09.57 # Schnueff: not at boot, no. only files in /.rockbox are persistent 10.10.10 # we should, obviously, document this pedantically 10.10.13 # can we make a .cfg persistent yet? 10.10.38 # then it's no limitation, as you can create /.rockbox/boot.cfg 10.11.14 # (and boot.cfg has those long paths for all the other settings) 10.12.09 # Schnueff: we can't, but that's a good idea 10.12.47 # we really should add that 10.13.52 # its def a font prob... 10.14.00 # hmm actually.. one sec 10.17.34 # of course, there are conflicts with the usual 'persistence' then 10.17.56 # depending on the order of .cfg, .fnt, etc. load 10.18.18 # it is a font loading prog 10.18.22 # prob 10.18.36 # i created "/.rockbox/font/longfilename.wps" 10.18.45 # and loaded the cfg pointing to that, and all is well... 10.18.49 # but the font don't like it 10.19.43 Join windchill [0] (~windchill@212.4.76.176) 10.21.55 # b font_load 10.21.57 # run 10.21.58 # ;) 10.22.06 # * adi|home is :) 10.22.37 # okay.. set_file .. that copies the first arguement into the second, correct? 10.23.11 # ignore set_file for now. if the font doesn't show up, the problem is in font_load, not set_file. 10.23.25 # i know that... im just confirming :) 10.23.26 # but yes, you are correct 10.28.58 Quit windchill () 10.36.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.48.41 Join Galik [0] (~Galik@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 10.48.52 Part Galik ("Client exiting") 11.21.18 Join hated-- [0] (~hated@pcp02741753pcs.kensgt01.pa.comcast.net) 11.22.44 Quit hated-- (Client Quit) 11.59.44 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.33.1) 12.09.44 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.41) 12.13.08 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 12.13.09 Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.13.12 # re-hi 12.18.01 Join Galik [0] (~Galik@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 12.18.22 Part Galik ("Client exiting") 12.20.48 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~phil@Bdf4f.pppool.de) 12.22.34 # Is there anybody here who has schematics / pcb for a 4x headphone amplifier? 12.24.31 # (would surprise me) 12.30.01 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12.32.25 # langhaarrocker: sorry, not me 12.32.30 # why do u want it? 12.36.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.36.59 # for recording sessions I want to provide different mixes on different headphones at different levels. 12.37.31 # each band member should have his headphone. 12.38.11 Join seb-sleep [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 12.39.35 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB62B76.ipt.aol.com) 12.40.52 # Hi 12.41.14 # hi 12.41.44 # :) 12.44.02 # u always work on software tuner for recorder ? ;) 12.44.39 # pardon?! 12.45.07 # just a joke... 12.45.42 # yesterday we chat about dummy request... 12.46.31 # heehee:) 12.46.47 # i think u should pipe down a bit before Zagor gets too annoyed :) 12.47.44 # :) 12.48.11 # :0D 12.48.12 # :-D 12.48.50 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 12.51.51 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 12.57.59 # "(I'm not saying I appreciate your work. I think you've done a great job" 8-) 12.58.03 # :) 12.58.15 # nice typo :) 13.00.20 # * Bagder is a fool 13.00.23 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.00.42 # Bagder: and how did you get that conclusion? 13.00.52 # forgot "don't" in the second sentence? :)) 13.01.00 # hehehe 13.01.00 # (and i'm not saying that is not true) 13.04.39 Join Galik [0] (~Galik@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 13.04.40 Quit Galik (Client Quit) 13.12.17 Quit Snorlax (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 13.12.17 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 13.12.17 Quit datazone (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 13.12.33 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 13.12.33 NJoin datazone [0] (~datazone@207.136.36.203) 13.12.33 NJoin Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h202n2fls34o883.telia.com) 13.51.57 Quit bobTHC (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 13.51.57 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 13.58.35 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-school (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.03.05 # lunch time 14.03.07 # cu l8r 14.03.16 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|lunch (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 14.10.30 Join Galik [0] (~Galik@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 14.10.49 Part Galik ("Client exiting") 14.20.33 # When disassembling the recorder (gonna do it tonight), something I should think about? 14.20.38 # Do I need tiny screwdrivers? 14.20.43 # yes 14.20.49 # I got a sufficiently small torx driver. 14.21.45 # you need a tiny phillips head driver 14.21.57 # which is? :/ 14.22.41 # stjärnmejsel 14.24.09 NHeal (timeout) leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.24.31 # Then say so! :D 14.24.38 # Stardriver :D 14.24.40 # ;-) 14.24.46 # :) 14.25.24 # I got a bunch of tiny screwdrivers, one of them should do the trick 14.25.34 # I never opened the battery compartment 14.25.41 # Which frightens me a bit :) 14.28.30 # How do you open it? Just push the lid upwards using a ballpoint pen or such? 14.30.24 # i use my fingernails 14.30.56 # there is a page somewhere discribing how to pull the unit apart 14.37.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.40.26 # Yes 14.40.33 # But not how to tear the battery compartment apart :) 15.33.40 Part elinenbe 15.34.42 # * dwihno is trying to open the battery compartment 15.34.48 # feels like I'm going to tear it apart 15.37.01 # ahaaa! 15.38.34 # hmm 15.38.40 # damned batteries 15.38.55 # Zagor: do you recommend excessive force to get them out? :) 15.39.55 # nah. moderate force :-) 15.40.30 # Do I need to remove the blue bumps? 15.41.07 # (to get the batteries out) 15.41.11 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 15.41.33 # how come 1.4 is much faster then the current CVS? 15.42.47 # you have enabled power saving? 15.42.58 # yeah 15.43.07 # is that what is casuign such a slowdown? 15.43.10 # dunno 15.43.26 # "Blame Zagor" ;) 15.43.42 # Nah, just kidding 15.43.43 # what I mean is I play a song, and then I press the back button to go to the beginning of the song, and it takes MUCH longer in the current CVS then 1.4 release 15.43.53 # and the disk has not spun down yet 15.44.55 Join windchill [0] (~windchill@212.4.76.176) 15.45.25 # Damn 15.45.33 # That battery is tightly fitted! :( 15.45.53 # elinenbe: back seems to bug 15.46.11 # Yay! 15.46.27 # Zagor: it taks soo long :( 15.46.34 # Zagor: I only used a teensy weensy bit of excessive force to get the batt's out :D 15.46.55 # Hmm, this would be a good time to replace them with 2200mAh's :-) 15.47.01 # also, with the latest CVS I am not getting my font settings saved after a reboot (I will download a daily build and make sure it is not just me) 15.47.20 # elinenbe: I have that problem too 15.47.41 # dwihno: not saving font? 15.47.53 # elinenbe: yaman... 15.48.04 Part Zagor 15.48.05 # I haven't spent much time thinking about the track change delay 15.48.24 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 15.48.33 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 15.48.41 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe_ (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 15.48.43 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 15.48.46 # i missed everything after my line 15.48.55 # 15:48 < dwihno> Yay! 15.48.58 # 15:48 < elinenbe> Zagor: it taks soo long :( 15.49.01 # 15:48 < dwihno> Zagor: I only used a teensy weensy bit of excessive force to 15.49.01 # get the batt's out :D 15.49.05 # 15:48 < dwihno> Hmm, this would be a good time to replace them with 2200mAh's 15.49.05 # :-) 15.49.09 # 15:49 < elinenbe> also, with the latest CVS I am not getting my font settings 15.49.09 # saved after a reboot (I will download a daily build and make 15.49.09 # sure it is not just me) 15.49.13 # 15:49 < elinenbe> dwihno: not saving font? 15.49.13 # 15:49 < dwihno> elinenbe: yaman... 15.49.17 # 15.49.29 # ok, my lines didn't make it out 15.49.29 # elinenbe: back seems to bug 15.49.29 # it always reloads the buffer 15.49.36 # there... we discussed how the latest CVS does not save the font. 15.50.10 # Zagor: it was still faster though on 1.4 -- was the bug not there? 15.50.23 # i think not 15.50.30 # Zagor: oh. 15.50.40 # yeah -- that is where I notice a huge slowdown. 15.50.42 # When the user starts to change tracks, does it use the "disk spindown timer" or does it spindown after the buffer has been filled? *quiz* :) 15.50.46 # try it. start a song, then go back after 4 sec or so 15.51.01 # dwihno: whichever is later 15.51.31 # Zagor: is it possible to make multiple track navigation faster? 15.51.39 # pressing >> 5 times is a major hassle. 15.51.50 # dwihno: I agree completley 15.52.18 # me too 15.52.25 # sometimes I know I like a song on a new album, but I am not sure what song it is, so I do my own "intro mode" playing each song for 5-10 seconds. 15.52.39 # and it is REALLY slow with rockbox. 15.52.54 # *nods* 15.53.06 # * dwihno notices the unit becoming lightweight after removing the batteries 15.53.17 # FM debug is okay?! What the Heck? FM debug is GREEN! 15.53.18 # * dwihno - the #1 recorder ta-isär guy :D 15.53.45 # elinenbe: it's not horrible slow if you up the disk timer 15.54.19 # elinenbe: can you test it? my recorder is torned apart atm :-) 15.54.26 # * dwihno is gonna install the new disk tonight 15.54.33 # Zagor: I will try that now. 15.54.38 # I have gotten myself some prints from the web page as well :D 15.55.17 # Zagor: what setting do you use? 15.56.03 # I use 5s. but I don't skip tracks much 15.56.18 # that is what I currently use, and it is quite painful 15.56.35 # Is it normal if the batteries are a bit dirty? It's like glue left to dry. 15.56.42 # nothing in the rockbox wolrd hwould be painful! :D 16.01.49 # elinenbe: test to up the spindown time 16.02.21 # * dwihno has the butterflies. 16.26.26 # dwihno: do you have it?? 16.26.26 Quit windchill (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.26.30 Nick quel|lunch is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 16.26.42 Part Zagor 16.26.48 # quelsaruk: which what? 16.26.55 # the case 16.27.08 # I will get it in approx 30 minutes 16.27.13 # (along with the disk) 16.27.16 # :) 16.27.19 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 16.27.24 # a looong long wait then 16.27.53 # well, I've been waiting for more than a week, so, yes :-) 16.28.28 # So I'll be really busy tonight eating spicy food and installing the new disk and the new case :) 16.29.20 # wait a moment 16.29.21 # i'm off 16.29.23 Part Zagor_ 16.29.30 # so am i 16.29.32 Quit elinenbe ("Heading to the pub") 16.29.32 # today is _friday_ 16.29.42 # you can't be tonight at home 16.29.49 # go away and drink some beers :) 16.37.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.46.07 Quit mecraw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.48.47 # Bagder: is great and mighty Zagor coming back today? or is he leaving us 'till the dawn of battle? 16.49.03 # I think he left for the day 16.49.15 # but he's out of my control! ;-) 16.49.57 Join huz [0] (~mreynes@netsoc.tcd.ie) 16.50.00 # hello guys 16.50.13 # hi 16.50.14 # i wanted to talk about why do i think my quick menu screens patch is a good choice :) 16.50.18 # hi huz 16.50.37 # has someone tested this : http://www2.funmp3players.com/reviews/modify/ or that : http://waechter.wiz.at/~matthias/Rockbox/HW-Mod/8MB/ ? 16.50.58 # Afaik, 2-3 people have successfully done the mod. 16.50.59 # there are a few on the list that did the 8mb patch 16.51.22 # i have updated my hd drive 16.51.34 # and dwihno is going to do the same today.. or tomorrow ;) 16.51.37 # * dwihno will swap the drive TONIGHT *major drumroll* 16.51.39 # isn't it dangerous to change the hw ? isn't some anti schock system on archos hs ? 16.51.47 # achos hd 16.52.05 # it's a regular laptop harddrive 16.52.05 # archos hd is a normal 2.5" drive 16.52.27 # really ? :) I though it was a peculiar one ! 16.52.45 # just 9.5mm 16.52.53 # yeah 16.52.55 # some laptop ones are thicker 16.53.03 # dwihno: 2-3 people have successfully done the mod > how many persons have unsuccessfully done it ? ;) 16.53.21 # huz: none 16.53.25 # huz: the ones who didn't write they were successful? ;) 16.53.33 # at least no one has admitted failure 16.53.45 # huz: you can be the first! ;-P 16.53.53 # Bagder: i have one of those thick hd... but i thought it was a really old one ( 2GB) 16.54.13 # :-D 16.54.15 # yeah .. i think i'll not try the memory mod, seem to hard for my skills 16.54.26 # huz: and if you fail, you can always Blame Zagor(tm) :-) 16.58.58 # quelsaruk: the hdd mod seem quite easy (much more than the memory manipulation), have you experienced some troubles doing that ? or since you did it ? 16.59.20 # i did it 1 year ago... 16.59.22 # more or less 16.59.34 # i changed my 6 GB Hd with a 30 GB HD 16.59.36 # hundreds of people have changed harddrive 16.59.43 # and i have no problem.. 17.00.08 # ok .. think i'll do it when i have more money :) 17.00.18 # some 60 GB HDs have some kind of problem, but i don't know why 17.00.32 # Bagder: how is the disk attached? 17.00.45 # * dwihno has never seen a laptop disk before. 17.01.21 # dwihno: just plug it :) 17.01.28 # http://www2.funmp3players.com/reviews/modify/Large/archos6000-modify-12.jpg 17.01.36 # it shows it pretty good 17.02.35 # have you ever tried to change a laptop floppy drive inside a car and with your father saying "Erms.. hey.. that's _my_ laptop, and i love it so much..." 17.02.59 # that's difficult.. changing archos HD is easy :) 17.03.17 # Time to leave 17.03.19 # Have a nice weekend guys 17.03.33 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 17.03.46 # * Bagder is off too 17.03.49 Quit Bagder ("Client Exiting") 17.04.00 # time to leave work?? 17.04.11 # now the channel is mine ;) 17.12.57 # yeah :) since i leave too ;) 17.13.05 # thx for advices all 17.13.16 # quit ("see u") 17.13.19 # zut 17.13.21 Quit huz ("("see u")") 17.39.58 Join ]cF[rEiGnMan [0] (rEiGnMan@pD9510E6F.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.40.29 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> hi, anyone can tell me how to record on a jukebox recorder 20 with rockbox 1.4 ? 17.40.47 # you can't 17.40.54 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> damn 17.40.57 # you have to use daily build to record 17.41.07 # don't worry, daily builds are quite stable 17.41.29 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> are these daily builds the same as 1.4 just with some special options ? 17.41.36 # y use bleeding edge builds always 17.41.43 # with more options 17.41.56 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> can you recommend me one of the daily builds ? 17.41.56 # it's the same ui 17.42.01 # last one :) 17.42.13 # i recommend you last daily build :) 17.42.23 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> archos20030216.ajz 17.42.25 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> i guess this one ? 17.43.44 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> are the newer ones at the top of the list ? 17.43.49 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml 17.43.51 # 20030220 i think 17.43.52 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> :> 17.44.06 # 20030221 17.44.13 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> yes 17.44.16 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> i will try it 17.44.18 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> thank you 17.44.27 # that means 21/03/2003 17.44.36 # i hope you like it :) 17.46.13 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> do I have to leave the .rockbox folder on the jukebox ? 17.46.27 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> when i put a daily build on it 17.48.31 # it doesn't matter 17.48.32 # :) 17.48.36 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 17.48.39 # must go 17.48.41 # cu later 17.50.01 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> cu 17.50.04 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> and thx again 17.50.05 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> :> 17.50.08 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> it works now 17.51.10 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> can I delete with rockbox ? 17.59.12 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> i guess not 17.59.24 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> thx for this rockbox goodie 17.59.50 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> it roxx, but please import the hold function to the newest daily build 17.59.52 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> thx & cu 17.59.54 # <]cF[rEiGnMan> ;) 18.00.00 Quit ]cF[rEiGnMan ("< over the hills and far away >") 18.03.18 Quit quel|out ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 18.04.15 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB62B76.ipt.aol.com) 18.04.59 # Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 18.07.41 Quit tracktheripper (Client Quit) 18.08.40 Quit Snorlax () 18.11.48 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 18.11.54 # Worked!!! 18.12.10 # now i have a PS/2 power adaptor for my portalbe Hd :) 18.12.16 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 18.37.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.39.38 Nick quel|out is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 18.42.34 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|coffee (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 19.36.14 Quit quel|coffee ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 19.47.22 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 19.51.33 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB62B76.ipt.aol.com) 20.16.09 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 20.36.32 Join saruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 20.36.32 Quit quelsaruk (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.36.40 # re 20.36.42 Nick saruk is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 20.37.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.37.31 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EABBE8.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.44.09 Join Galik [0] (~Galik@public1-char1-6-cust252.pool.broadband.ntl.com) 20.44.17 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 20.44.29 Part Galik ("Client exiting") 20.58.53 Join hated-- [0] (~hated@pcp02741753pcs.kensgt01.pa.comcast.net) 21.02.02 Quit hated-- (Client Quit) 21.04.06 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.11.03 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 21.19.35 Quit Gissehel (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.29.23 Join Gissehel [0] (gissehel@AFontenayssB-105-1-4-106.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.16.34 # Zagor: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=439118&aid=681453&group_id=443 22.16.34 # 06 22.16.43 # i think that may be a derivative of the prob from last night 22.16.57 # https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=439118&aid=681453&group_id=44306 22.16.59 # rather 22.37.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.40.59 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 22.44.40 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB62B76.ipt.aol.com) 22.46.43 # hiiiiiiiiiiii 22.49.54 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 23.05.41 Join bombadier337 [0] (~mike@pcp02878733pcs.cnorth01.va.comcast.net) 23.05.59 # man it takes a long time to sort mp3's into directories 23.07.18 # only if you were silly enough to toss them all into the same dir originally :)( 23.09.14 # that would be me 23.09.23 # how can u delete files in rockbox? 23.16.47 # ? 23.17.08 # on+play brings up a menu 23.17.11 # or something like that anyway 23.17.12 # heh 23.17.21 # thats what it is for players, i dunno about recorders 23.17.22 # on+play+f1+right 23.17.29 # heh 23.17.35 # i have a recorder 23.18.39 # what version MT? 23.18.42 # i got 1.4 23.19.02 # i had the current daily build, but it had some bugs i didnt like 23.20.28 # heh 23.20.30 # ok 23.20.37 # well i dunno i don't think 1.4 does it 23.21.07 # obviously, being that it's in feature-freeze for 2.0, there's a lot of changes since 1.4 in the daily builds 23.21.50 # i was joking bombadier :) 23.22.25 # tbh, the daily build (v2) seems vastly superior to 1.4 23.23.41 # yeh 23.23.58 # well is the info on the hd always wrong? 23.24.17 # it said it was empty 23.24.26 # when i have like 10 gigs of mp3's on it 23.25.46 # is there a particular daily build that is less buggy than the others? or just get the newest 1? 23.30.31 Join tantus [0] (~tantus@206-124-130-001.atm02.sea.blarg.net) 23.37.14 # y does it display the wrong amount of free space? 23.37.31 # is there a hard drive size limit for the jukebox recorder? I'm thinking about putting a 60 gig in there. 23.39.04 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 23.39.51 # ne1 no why rockbox display free space on the drive wrong? 23.48.36 Quit bombadier337 ()