--- Log for 02.03.103 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 5 days and 13 hours ago 00.15.14 Join adi|ems [0] (~jirc@ool-43544d26.dyn.optonline.net) 00.16.35 # grrr.. guys i need to talk too aren't around 00.16.37 # bah... 00.18.35 Quit adi|ems (Client Quit) 00.19.14 Join adi|ems [0] (~jirc@ool-43544d26.dyn.optonline.net) 00.19.17 Join MT [0] (mt@phhhwwwooooaaarrrr.annwiddecombe.com) 00.19.21 # anyone around? 00.19.48 # anyone? 00.19.56 Part adi|ems 00.20.30 Join adi|ems [0] (~jirc@ool-43544d26.dyn.optonline.net) 00.21.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.21.06 Part adi|ems 00.26.00 Join adi|ems [0] (~jirc@ool-43544d26.dyn.optonline.net) 00.26.07 # :sighs 00.29.31 Quit adi|home (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.30.07 Quit adi|ems ("Leaving") 01.07.44 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 01.08.03 # hello =) 01.08.07 # yo 01.09.31 # any fm recorder owners here? 01.09.55 # not me, and I don't know if anyone else's active... 01.10.36 # feeling lonely? :-) 01.10.51 # nah. I just hate it when I ask a question and noone responds. =) 01.13.31 # how is your id3 code going? 01.13.38 # mostly done 01.13.47 # just cleaning up a few UI things 01.13.56 # nice 01.14.08 # and then I gotta patch it against recent CVS. My version is a week or so old 01.14.35 # will there be functions to call to insert/create tags programmatically? 01.15.11 # there's a write_id3_tags function (and separate id3v1, idev2 funcs) 01.15.27 # But the current implementation always overwrites all the old tags 01.15.28 # ok, prototype? 01.16.05 # I wrote the pseudocode for one that would non-destructively only overwrite *known* tags (and leave the unknown/unsupported intact), but was too lazy to implement 01.16.32 # ok, so how does it know how much space there is for the v2 tag? 01.16.32 # write_id3_tags(fd, mp3entry) 01.17.09 # Reads id3v2 header for existing size. Will write in that size if it fits, or will dynamically resize (and shift mp3 data) if it needs more room 01.17.36 # and if there is no existing tag? 01.17.43 # whoa, latest daily build is nice :) 01.18.07 # any change that this create playlist thing for the entire hard drive can (eventually) be tweaked to allow saving of queue lists? 01.18.34 # if no existing tag, will create space using the same dynamic resizing as mentioned above. Resizing always done in some nominal (currently 500 bytes) increment, so there's as little data shuffling as necessary 01.19.00 # ok, so if no tag is found, it will create space for it? 01.19.06 # yup 01.19.42 # For new recordings, it allocates a nominal size before recording starts, so when tags are written afterwords, there's probably no data shuffling needed 01.19.56 # good 01.26.08 # forceflow2: what clock are you talking about? 01.37.17 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.203) 01.39.02 Join ken0__ [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.203) 01.39.02 Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.52.14 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.190) 01.59.12 Join Joris [0] (jirc@ipd50a5e0a.speed.planet.nl) 02.00.25 # ls 02.00.29 # oops 02.00.33 # hehe 02.00.45 Quit ken0__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.02.52 # Hi, I posted earlier on the mailing list. I'd like to know what the AJBR20 sells for nowadays, and if anyone knows a cheap european source for it...... 02.03.09 # i have no idea 02.03.38 # What did you pay for it? 02.03.44 # hmmm 02.05.01 # are you still thinking or you don't remember 02.05.44 # holy cow people are actually here now 02.05.59 # can't really rememember, but i think it was like 300-350 euro 02.06.11 # a year ago 02.06.21 # ah, i see, the lowest I've seen is 302 euro 02.06.56 # forceflow2: what clock are you talking about? 02.07.08 # clock? 02.07.10 # oh yeah 02.07.15 # o'clock! 02.07.15 # um, one second 02.07.38 # it's 2:07 at my place 02.07.38 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=618007 02.07.56 # Joris: same here 02.08.07 # you're in finland? 02.08.11 # there is a feature request for 12 and 24 hour clock functions 02.08.13 # sweden 02.08.21 # forceflow2: you have a recorder? 02.08.29 # oh, is it only for the recorder? 02.08.41 # hehe, my girlfriend and I a spending our summer in Norway this summer 02.08.43 # yes, only the recorder has a real-time clock chip 02.08.46 # ah, ok then 02.09.12 # and I will assume that only the recorder can do an inverted LCD display? 02.09.33 # i guess so, the Player/studio LCD is of a different type 02.09.43 # the recorder is "somewhat" more advanced 02.09.48 # should've spent the extra money.... 02.09.54 # forceflow2: indeed 02.09.55 # oh well 02.10.52 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB54802.ipt.aol.com) 02.11.09 # morning 02.11.15 # hey 02.11.23 # Hi 02.11.27 # for you, maybe. ;) 02.11.33 # (morning, that is) 02.11.47 # its 1:11am UK time here 02.11.53 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 02.12.06 # 7PM CST in USA 02.12.09 # NL time is 2:12 am 02.12.16 # heehee:) 02.12.33 # just checking out Feature Requests 02.13.00 # hmmm...probably not gonna bother with trying and returning it, and getting the recorder, since I have already used it.... 02.13.13 # Did Mr. Dragan Samardzija ever return an email, BTW (different subject) 02.13.15 # a Player owner wants Screen Invert as well 02.13.34 # Force do u own a Player? 02.13.43 # um, yeah 02.14.11 # forceflow2: Plenty o' peoples' AJBs have had other people's music on them. So you wouldn't be the first to return it used. =) 02.14.13 # If you can you should try exchanging it for a Recorder 02.14.49 # I returned my old Creative Labs Nomad used :-) 02.15.16 # hmmm....maybe I will try, the only problem is the company has outrageous shipping prices.... 02.15.35 # well...... 02.15.48 # The Recorder is a much better machine than the Player 02.16.21 # jzoss: different music on each player, or just the factory installed ones? 02.17.00 # Why the hell does the Player have a line-in when it does nothing whatsoever? 02.17.10 # Is tthe line-in just for show or something? 02.17.18 # tracktheripper: you can use it to mix the line in with the music 02.17.29 DBUG Enqueued KICK Joris 02.17.29 # 1can you say karaoke? 02.17.33 # ????? 02.17.36 # LinusN: different music. Mine had a few songs and someone's email addr. 02.17.45 # jzoss: woo 02.17.46 # But only 3 songs, so I figure it wasn't heavily used. 02.18.22 # well, I don't even have the original firmware, guess I could get that from archos though....hmmm...maybe I will try 02.18.23 # Linus why wouldn't invert work on the Players? 02.18.30 # after my trip tomorrow though 02.18.33 # LinusN: we don't have access to audio out stream except for through MAS, right? 02.18.38 # tracktheripper: some use it to feed the computer sound output through the player, to be able to have both the computer and the archos connected to the stereo at the same time 02.18.47 # ohhh 02.19.03 # I was thinking of feature request for "beep" config setting (keypress, invalid func, etc)... to help guide blind navigation 02.19.09 # But I'm thinking it's not possible 02.19.16 # no , no beep 02.19.17 # we can't play anything but mp3 music 02.19.39 # that is not without hardware mods 02.19.40 # but we could try to insert sound into the mp3 stream, but i guess it will sound real bad 02.19.46 # Linus but Im sure someone has hacked the MAS for the Karaoke mode inplemented in the Daily Build 02.19.54 # right. My thoughts too. Just figured I'd ask. =) thx 02.20.01 # tracktheripper: no mas hacking there 02.20.14 # so how does the Karaoke mode work then? 02.20.17 # just clever usage of the channel mixer 02.20.18 # yah, simple-karaoke is pretty striaghtforward 02.20.29 # ohhh 02.20.30 # BTW, did Mr. Dragan Samardzija ever return an email? 02.20.34 # who? 02.20.40 # I take it this does not work on the poor old Player!! 02.20.50 # The dude that did some work on the MASC3500 DSP 02.20.54 # tracktheripper: it should, i think 02.21.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.21.15 # Joris: i don't know anything about him 02.21.18 # lol 02.21.37 # I have karaoke on my Player 02.21.42 # The name popped up in the IRC logs 02.21.44 # it "sorta" works 02.21.58 # Linus Im not sure if this has been mentioned before but can you add individual songs to playlist like the Archos firmware soon? 02.22.05 # Here's a link: http://winwww.rutgers.edu/~samar/Index.html 02.22.17 # tracktheripper: nobody is working on it as far as i know 02.23.08 # well, the only way round it is to rename the QUEUE_FILE to myplaylist.m3u 02.23.11 # or something like that 02.24.15 # well if its not implemented I'll just keep the Archos firmware alongside Rockbox solely for playlist making and recording 02.24.32 # tracktheripper: what's wrong with rockbox recording? 02.25.54 # well you can only record to the root directory in Rockbox, you can't choose the filename for Recording, you can't input ID3 tags, all you get is a long alphanumeric filename created when you record, you can't see the VBR during recording..... 02.26.02 # Hmm...I could get the recorder for $242 (USD) with shipping....I paid about $220 for the player....Yeah, I think I will go ahead and do that when I get back from my trip 02.26.17 # tracktheripper: why is bit rate important when recording? 02.26.27 # tracktheripper: check back later this weekend. I'm uploading a patch for all those except VBR during recording 02.27.00 # erm, just something asthetic ((blushes)) 02.27.17 # forceflow2: send me a recorder, they're much cheaper in the US! 02.27.30 # :D of course 02.28.11 # :) 02.28.41 # Hmmm...I can't seem to find that little plastic piece that went over the LCD, think they will care? their site says all original packaging.... 02.28.56 # or aren't you a US citizen? 02.29.06 # I am one 02.29.22 # I assumed so 02.29.31 # Linus wheres your kid bro Zagor?? 02.30.04 # about that plastic thingy: put some house hold PE foil on it 02.31.50 # hmm....the plastic packaging is ripped, think they might care? Doesn't some that it has to be unopened 02.32.24 # *some = say 02.32.43 # tracktheripper: i don't have a kid bro 02.33.02 # you confuse me with bagder 02.33.08 # force: makes no sense to have to send it unopened 02.33.12 # oh sorry Linus I got you mixed up with Adimas 02.33.19 # my mistake 02.33.20 # :) 02.33.40 # yeah, alrighty, if they get mad that is their problem, I satisfy all the requirements on their site 02.33.52 # right 02.34.41 # ok, by this time in two weeks I will have my recorder 02.35.00 # forceflow2: good 4 you 02.35.07 # Does anyone have an FM Recorder they no longer require? 02.35.28 # hehe, i have only had it for a few weeks 02.35.37 # and i still need it 02.35.44 # how are u finding it Linus compaared to the normal Recorder? 02.35.53 # better and worse 02.36.07 # no remote control support 02.36.07 # what u mean? Whats "worse"? 02.36.17 # i have yet to get the digital i/o working 02.36.35 # doesn't the recorder have USB 2.0 also? 02.36.43 # yes it has 02.36.44 # holy cow that would be useful... 02.37.02 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.37.09 # Yea Linus but don't forget that the FM Recorder has the fantastic FM wireless built in! 02.37.17 # :-) 02.37.25 # no rds :-( 02.37.41 # So what I really came looking for today is: did anyone ever get any info on the MAS' internal dsp? 02.37.48 # Joris: no 02.37.49 # Linus but you can manually key-in station names yourself! 02.37.49 # so therefore u don't need RDS! 02.38.00 # bummer :( 02.38.19 # i want alternate frequency support 02.38.32 # and COMMERCIALS!!! :-) 02.38.39 # Just think Linus, you can record the Top 40 in super quality digital MP3 format! 02.38.40 # alrighty, well thanks for the chat and info. I need to go pack for my trip, so long 02.38.41 Quit forceflow2 ("I'm using «54-2K» 1.0 Website: http://www.54Script.com") 02.39.11 # oh yea I want DAB support for the FMrec as well :-) 02.40.26 # tracktheripper: sorry for the long-time / no-response. My connection is kinda wacky 02.40.27 # Isn't the analogue/digital input combined on one socket on the FMRec? 02.40.38 # its alright Jzoss :-) 02.40.40 # Can't we make a patch so all our AJBs go out at night and destroy all Creative Labs jukeboxes? 02.40.52 # patch will allow ID3 tag editing (of existing & recording) files. 02.40.59 # oh cool! 02.41.02 # can't wait! 02.41.03 # Another patch will allow custom recording filenames 02.41.33 # If you use absolute pathnames ("/myrecord.mp3"), you get centralized recordings (like now) 02.41.35 # Joris Ive done a patch so the Archos will give u a back massage at night :-) 02.41.51 # If you use relative pathnames ("myrecord.mp3"), you get decentralized recordings (in current dir) 02.42.01 # No thanks, I've got a girlfriend capable of that ;-) 02.42.16 # lol 02.42.43 # wots wrong wiv the Creatives Joris/ 02.42.58 # They're so........ big! 02.42.58 # You can use wps/sprintf-like vars ("%ti, %au, %yr, %dy, etc) to insert ID3-tag and timestamp elements into recording filename 02.43.16 # well have u seen the C.L. Zen? 02.43.27 # yes, it doesn't record 02.43.32 # I need record 02.43.48 # well get a C.L Nomad 3 02.44.02 # can record analoge or digital, plus it can record in WAV as well as MP3 02.44.08 # No, there's no open source firmware for it 02.44.21 # that's no fun at all 02.44.23 # you are so easy to please Joris :-) 02.44.33 # explain 02.44.51 # just a joke :-) 02.44.56 # ok 02.45.08 # seriously, the CL is too big 02.45.17 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 02.45.19 # well Joris at least the CL can play WAV and WMA 02.45.40 # don't need wma, the wav recording capability would be nice. 02.46.00 # well to be honest WMA sounds downright crap compared to MP3 02.46.15 # I agree 100% 02.46.15 # I dunno why everyone says WMA sounds better 02.46.25 # they son't know squat 02.46.42 # son't = don't 02.47.30 # Ive compared a WMA and MP3 at 64kbs, The MP3 sounds slightly smooth, the WMA at 64kbs sounds very rough and abrasive in the treble 02.48.16 # yes it's like having dolby turned on at a tape deck with a non-dolby recorded cassette tape 02.48.36 # yea 02.48.50 # the high freqs fade in and out all the time 02.48.51 # WMA files hurt my ears 02.48.59 # yea know what u mean 02.49.08 # and my sense for justice (wma=bill gates) 02.49.18 # MP3Pro would be good 02.49.25 # I like the sound quality of MP3Pro files 02.49.29 # yes, mp3pro good! 02.49.50 # MP3Pro works by seperatly compressing the bass and treble sounds 02.50.03 # but I'd still use 128 kbps for mp3pro 02.50.19 # I use 192kbs for my MP3s, Identical CD quality 02.50.37 # I should have 02.50.41 # too 02.50.55 # You can hear some compression artefacts at 128kbs 02.51.17 # at 192Kbs the sound is perfect quality. Its pointeless going above 192kbs as you hear no further improvement in sound 02.51.45 # yup, but I spotted it after compressing about 75 CDs, and I'm not starting over 02.51.59 # yea 02.52.15 # What ripping codec do u use? Blade, Fraunhofer? 02.52.44 # Easy cd-extractor. I've been using a Soulplayer DMP-01 so far. 02.52.56 # and I think it uses blade 02.53.08 # oh right, I use Musicmatch since it has the Fraunhofer codec 02.53.16 # the Blade codec isnt good at low bitrates 02.53.24 # but it's free 02.53.45 # well I use the Musicmatch software provided by Archos 02.53.59 # and it has the Fraunhofer codec? 02.54.07 # yes 02.54.28 # Oh then I'll be using that from now on (as soon as I get my AJBR20) 02.54.29 # the Fraunhofer codec is good at 128kbs but I still prefer coding at 192kbs as the sound is even better 02.54.42 # Just make sure u download the update after installing it 02.54.54 # thanx for the top 02.54.57 # tip 02.55.04 # no problemo 02.55.33 # yea Im a diehard MP3 fan, Ive owned lots of different players and tried lots of different MP3 softwares 02.55.54 # which players did you own? 02.56.43 # like I said, I got a Soulplayer DMP-01 cd/mp3/wma player 02.56.46 # My first was a Riovolt MP3-CD portable, my second was a Creative Labs Nomad, my third was an Ipod, my fourth is my current Archos 02.56.59 # didn't like the Ipod 02.57.00 # ? 02.57.18 # lol 02.57.26 # u can see the various machines Ive owned 02.57.58 # I meant: "you didn't like the Ipod?" 02.58.10 # Ipod scratches too easily 02.58.35 # like, it skips? 02.58.41 # the sound from the Ipod is rather tinny 02.58.54 # It doesn't skip, just dont like its sound quality 02.59.21 # I've heard that before, but the archos doesn't provide much bass with headphone I've heard 02.59.46 # well I use a pair of Sony Fontopias and the bass is thunderous on the Rockbox firmware 03.00.10 # so rockbox improved the bass response? 03.00.22 # yea 03.00.39 # My next player may be an Archos Multimedia 03.00.45 # hmm, I saw some ppl do hardware mods to get the same results 03.00.54 # yea I saw that as well 03.01.05 # at least the Archos isn't SDMI compliant 03.01.36 # yea, score for archos. The multimedia doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Come on, a 1.5 inch TFT? 03.02.17 # well I held one and it feels quite nice in the hands 03.02.17 # very slim 03.02.39 # but you'd need a second, larger, screen I guess 03.03.06 # I think the screen in the Multimedia is the older STN type, not TFT 03.03.16 # even worse!!!! 03.03.44 # Have you compared an STN screen to a TFT? 03.04.25 # yes, I have used different note books, and TFT has a much much wider viewing angle an higher contrast 03.04.34 # well at least wiv an STN screen you don't risk getting dead pixels like you do on a TFT 03.05.06 # true, but modern TFTs hardly ever get bad pixels 03.05.15 # lol 03.05.51 # My mates laptop has a stuck on red and blue pixel and they are so aggravating to look at! 03.05.52 # lol 03.06.24 # well, how has he handled the laptop? 03.07.08 # He's never mistreated it, and it does say in the instruction manual "Dead pixels are a natural defect inherent in TFT technology and are not covered by warrenty" 03.07.32 # I mean, if you often put pressure on the screen, it will die more easily 03.07.47 # well he's never mistreated the screen 03.08.03 # I see, forget what I said 03.08.10 # lol 03.08.34 # my dad's laptop has a missing blue pixel but you can only see it on a plain blue background, otherwise its not noticeable 03.09.09 # tracktheripper: how long do the batteries last on your recorder? 03.09.27 # mine last around 10-12 hours, why? 03.09.40 # At work i got a tft. No bad pixels yet. But I used to have a CRT with a bad spot. 03.09.40 # i am curious about your bug report 03.10.35 # well its just that when I boot into the Archos firmware via Rolo I can use the JB for an extra hour when the battery meter in Rockbox says 9% 03.10.54 # sounds fair, 9% should be about an hour 03.11.19 # yea but my Archos refuses to play in Rockbox when the battery meter is 9% 03.11.35 # yeah you say so in your report 03.11.36 # Joris have you seen the Trinitron CRTs? 03.12.09 # well I thought it was a bug, I wasn't trying to be funny or anything 03.12.22 # track: nope, right now I have a samsung syncmaster 19" 03.13.03 # tracktheripper: how is your Disk Poweroff setting? 03.13.52 # oh right, The Trinitron CRTs have 2 horizontal lines visible on the screen, these 2 lines are wires that hold the shadow mask in place 03.14.09 # Linus I think the Disk Poweroff is set on "Off" 03.14.09 # i hate those trinitron lines 03.14.24 # ok 03.14.26 # One of the crts at work has this. I don't like it either 03.14.40 # they don't bother me. {shrug} 03.14.50 # yea I saw a triniton CRT in the shop, and I could never live with those lines caused by the shadow mask wires 03.15.39 # Jzoss so the lines in a Trinitron CRT never bother you? 03.15.51 # nope. I've got a trinitron on my desk right now 03.16.08 # oh right. How noticable are the shadowmask lines? 03.16.09 # I never notice them except on whiteBG. And even then, I have to explicitly look for them 03.16.18 # oh right 03.16.30 # I have a 17". They may be more noticeable on larger monitors, but the ones at work haven't bugged me either 03.16.36 # are those lines adjustable? 03.16.39 # no 03.16.42 # Nope. Hardware 03.17.13 # they are caused by wires that hold the shadow mask in place. The wires cast shadows on the screen 03.17.13 # they are actually metal wires 03.17.45 # that was a question 03.17.50 # yes 03.18.22 # Some of the very large Trinitrons have THREE shadowmask lines! 03.18.32 # i couldn't live with that 03.19.10 # I simulated the effect by loading a wallpaper into Paint, drawing 2 lines and setting it as a desktop wallpaper, I couldn't ignore the lines 03.20.44 # Lines are *much* smaller than 1 pixel high on my monitor 03.20.56 # ohhh 03.20.57 # 0.5 - 0.25 pixel (guessing) 03.21.02 # lol 03.21.19 # If I had a digital cam, I'd snap a pic. Oh well 03.21.28 # lol don't worry 03.21.39 # Linus what did u do with my bug report? 03.22.36 # Well it's getting late. I'm off to bed. Take care! Been nice talking to you. 03.22.37 # nothing, i just go through the reports to see what bugs need to be fixed 03.22.56 # Joris: nite 03.23.06 Quit Joris ("Leaving") 03.23.18 # oh right. Just thought the status was changed to "Works For Me" 03.24.48 # :-) 03.25.03 # lol 03.25.31 # it must make the sender pull their hair out that it works for you but not for them!!! 03.25.34 # heehee! 03.25.34 # lol 03.26.24 # happens all the time 03.26.34 # lol 03.27.06 # anyway Linus I have to go, nice talking to you 03.27.33 # cu 03.27.51 # send my regards to Zagor next time u see him :-) 03.28.29 # i will 03.28.37 # :-) 03.29.01 # keep up the good work! Maybe one day all future Archos's will come wiv Rockbox as standard! 03.32.27 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 03.56.53 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-230-110.bct.bellsouth.net) 04.21.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.28.28 Join Josh_ [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-230-110.bct.bellsouth.net) 04.28.28 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.45.53 Join forceflow2 [0] (54@cae168-240-155.sc.rr.com) 04.59.14 Quit forceflow2 ("I'm using «54-2K» 1.0 Website: http://www.54Script.com") 05.05.28 Part LinusN 05.54.52 Quit Josh_ ("Client Exiting") 06.18.10 Quit PsycoXul ("fucking usb") 06.21.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.26.52 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-39.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 06.36.06 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-46-5.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 06.42.33 # adi -- you there? 06.54.57 Quit jzoss ("[BX] Did somebody say BitchX?") 07.03.30 Quit ken0 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07.22.21 Join forceflow2 [0] (54@cae168-240-155.sc.rr.com) 07.27.22 Quit forceflow2 ("I'm using «54-2K» 1.0 Website: http://www.54Script.com") 07.56.49 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 08.21.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.18.05 Quit mecraw (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 10.21.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.23.44 Join edx [0] (~edx@pD9EA96C8.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.59.18 Nick edx is now known as mex (~edx@pD9EA96C8.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.21.12 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 12.25.58 Quit mex () 12.33.29 Join mex [0] (~edx@pD9EA9F9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.51.53 Join jzoss [0] (jzoss@cs6711155-229.satx.rr.com) 13.53.19 Quit jzoss (Client Quit) 14.21.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.48.44 Nick mex is now known as mex`ut (~edx@pD9EA9F9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.00.50 Nick mex`ut is now known as medx (~edx@pD9EA9F9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.00.54 Nick medx is now known as mex (~edx@pD9EA9F9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.21.17 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 16.26.18 Nick mex is now known as mxe`ut (~edx@pD9EA9F9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.36.29 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 16.49.51 Quit B-BuRdO-B ("BADBOYS") 16.49.56 Nick mxe`ut is now known as mxe (~edx@pD9EA9F9A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.50.09 Quit mxe () 17.06.19 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.40.23) 17.47.56 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-230-110.bct.bellsouth.net) 18.03.26 Join juz [0] (juz@ACBA48ED.ipt.aol.com) 18.12.12 # hello i m french, can you tell me how i can do to make the .lng file with the .lang please 18.20.44 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EABE21.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.21.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.23.50 # how can i update my language file??? 18.29.51 Nick edx is now known as mxe (edx@pD9EABE21.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.35.56 Nick mxe is now known as edx (edx@pD9EABE21.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.38.04 Quit juz () 18.39.03 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 18.43.51 Join PhantomDJP [0] (Durand@ASte-Genev-Bois-109-1-2-231.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.43.58 # hi ! 18.44.20 # hello 18.44.25 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB5B93E.ipt.aol.com) 18.44.37 # Afternoon..... 18.53.43 Quit PhantomDJP ("Fermeture du client") 18.54.29 # Is it true the FMrec now has hardware charging? 19.15.12 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 19.19.44 # tracktheripper: Think so. 19.19.48 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 19.23.11 # well I just saw a brief mention in one of the daily logs 19.24.01 # doubt if I should buy an FM rec after all 19.25.00 # How come? 19.25.11 # The only bad thing seems to be the fishy batteries. 19.25.31 # proprietory batteries? 19.25.41 # well they are Li-Ion I believe 19.25.43 # Linus also mentioned something about the device being hard to pull apart 19.25.52 # which don't lose their charge like Ni-Mh 19.27.19 # and I think the FMRec does have a sleeker chassis than the normal Recorder 19.31.04 # ((sneezes)) 19.38.00 Join CGI163 [0] (~508755aa@151108.vserver.de) 19.39.01 Quit CGI163 (Client Quit) 19.39.02 Join CGI163 [0] (~508755aa@151108.vserver.de) 19.41.13 # hi CGI 19.42.50 # hi 19.43.56 # just testing cgi-based irc client. 19.44.04 Nick CGI163 is now known as devZer0 (~508755aa@151108.vserver.de) 19.44.06 # :) 19.44.49 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@p508755AA.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.45.06 Part devZer0 19.45.13 Join CGI163 [0] (~508755aa@151108.vserver.de) 19.45.57 Part CGI163 19.46.42 Join CGI884 [0] (~508755aa@151108.vserver.de) 19.47.04 Part CGI884 19.47.24 Join CGI535 [0] (~508755aa@151108.vserver.de) 19.48.11 Quit CGI535 (Client Quit) 19.49.59 Join CGI535 [0] (~508755aa@151108.vserver.de) 19.50.31 Quit CGI535 (Client Quit) 19.50.34 Join CGI535 [0] (~508755aa@151108.vserver.de) 19.51.32 Quit Guest ("Leaving") 19.54.31 # :) 20.02.29 # someone there who want`s to try cgi-based irc client ? bjorn pointed me to that, and today I had some time to set it up for testing. 20.05.10 Join CGI744 [0] (~508755aa@151108.vserver.de) 20.05.43 Join CGI755 [0] (~508755aa@151108.vserver.de) 20.05.43 Quit CGI744 (Client Quit) 20.06.28 # test 20.06.56 # :) 20.06.56 Quit CGI755 (Client Quit) 20.17.40 Join CGI188 [0] (~d9d7aa21@151108.vserver.de) 20.17.44 # testing testing 20.18.00 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 20.18.29 # test 20.18.33 # test 20.18.37 # seems to work 20.18.46 Quit CGI188 (Client Quit) 20.19.12 Join CGI188 [0] (~d9d7aa21@151108.vserver.de) 20.19.19 Quit CGI188 (Client Quit) 20.21.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.21.48 # hi Zagot 20.21.50 # sorry Zagor 20.22.17 # hi 20.22.31 # hows things? 20.22.53 # haha. i got shocked a little bit. I wondered why someone knew the url of the irc chat. I didn`t realize that Zagor == Björn :) 20.23.02 # hi 20.23.10 # lol CGI 20.23.26 # well tracktheripper == Jason :) 20.23.51 # :) 20.24.30 # heehee 20.24.35 # im from London 20.26.11 # Is version 2.0 on its way soon? 20.26.12 # they will GET you ! :) 20.26.44 # What?! 20.26.47 # if Scotland Yard won`t get you - maybe the RIAA :)) 20.26.57 # haha 20.26.58 # CGI what u on about? 20.27.22 # making some fun about your nick ;) 20.27.32 # well CGI I look forward for the RIAA to emerge from my PC's USB port :) 20.27.39 # hahahaha! i know what u mean CGI 20.27.41 # lol 20.28.37 # all you need is a magic marker and a copy of Soundforge and you are in business :) 20.30.43 # bad times for big music industries business. a computer is a machine for copying bits. PERIOD. 20.31.14 # lol 20.31.20 # do you own a copy of Soundforge? 20.31.50 # no - I don`t do much things with music (besides listening) 20.32.13 # lol 20.32.30 # at least the Archos is NOT SDMI compliant 20.32.36 Join faust1 [0] (jirc@k-d0797.resnet.ucsc.edu) 20.32.55 Quit faust1 (Client Quit) 20.33.46 # time-stretch doesnt half sound weird comparing to changing the pitch 20.33.59 # <---- was playing wiv Timestretch in Soundforge 20.33.59 # :) 20.34.13 # all that SDMI, TCPA and sort of crazy stuff like that is getting on my nerves 20.34.25 # lol 20.34.44 # I read that diehard pirates will copy music even it means "holding a microphone to the speakers" 20.34.46 # I use atomixmp3 from time to time 20.34.59 # nice tool 20.35.03 # lol prefer Soundforge myself 20.36.10 # jason, unfortunately i have to leave for now. I`m late, anyway. 20.36.18 # greetings to london :) 20.36.22 # awwwww 20.36.27 # nice to meet u CGI 20.36.56 # doesnt cgi:irc use ~ 3MB per instance? 20.37.03 # CU. CGI ist just a default-nick of the irc-client i`m testing :) 20.37.13 # oh right 20.37.27 # MT: don`t know yet. 20.37.32 # I will check that 20.37.58 # that wouldn`t be very good, because my vserver i`m running it on has very limited ressources 20.38.41 # ok - have a nice evenig. happy rockboxing :) 20.38.43 # bye 20.38.46 Part CGI535 20.53.08 # <-- hopes Zagor can visit London soon :) 20.54.36 Join jzoss [0] (jzoss@cs6711155-229.satx.rr.com) 20.55.43 # Hi Jzoss! 20.55.50 # hiya, track 20.56.03 # how ya doing? 20.56.09 # anyone here know anything about Rockbox's stack size limits and so forth? =) 20.56.25 # Doin alright. Just workin on that patch stuff from yesterday 20.56.32 # oh right 20.56.39 # U said u was submintting a partch of some sort 20.56.43 # Right 20.57.10 # Gotta find a better way to copy file data, though... 20.57.28 # ohhh 20.57.39 # Right now, when I need to shift data around in the mp3 file (to make more room for ID3 tag), it only shuffles data at ~10k / sec. 20.57.47 # ohh ok 20.57.49 Join Snorlax|Norway [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 20.57.59 # For a normal 5-meg MP3 file, that's like 10 minutes. :( 20.58.00 Nick Snorlax|Norway is now known as Snorlax (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 20.58.06 # oh god Mr Ipod fan is here :) 20.58.47 # Archos much better than Ipod :-) 20.58.49 # jzoss: how are you shifting the data? 20.59.08 # Right now, I have a 500-byte copy buffer 20.59.24 # <-- is gonna have shower 20.59.24 # brb 20.59.24 # I do seek-to-src, read 500 bytes, seek-to-dest, write 500 bytes, etc. 20.59.42 # jzoss: and you are surprised it's slow? :-) 21.00.12 # I thought increasing copy buffer size might help speed up transfers, but when I do, I get all sorts of weird behavior (blank screens & flashing red light, CpuAddrErr, etc). So I'm guessing there's a stack size limit I'm running into 21.00.22 # you should use as large a buffer as you can. use the mp3 buffer. 21.00.33 # yes, you can't use the stack 21.00.47 # You don't mind us mucking with the mp3 buffer for other purposes? 21.01.29 # I do, normally. But I got the impression this operation is only performed when not playing music? 21.01.43 # It's certainly a reasonable limitation, yes. 21.01.54 # then it's ok to use the id3 buffer 21.02.21 # I'll look into that, then. Any pointers on where to hunt in the code for good examples? (mpeg.c, obviously). 21.02.54 # Also, is it sufficient to check for !playing before I start abusing the buffer, or do I need a lower-level lockout? 21.03.20 # hang on a minute... 21.04.12 # Zagor: i was thinking of things I can code to contribute, and I came up with an idea :) 21.04.18 # look in firmware/rolo.c for example. it uses the mp3 buffer. 21.04.30 # MT: ok, what? 21.04.42 # the thing i miss most from a desktop player is searching a playlist 21.04.51 # thx, Zagor 21.04.54 # jzoss: you should call mpeg_stop() explicitly to make sure the buffer is not used. 21.05.09 # so i thought a little screen, with a 'keyboard' to enter a short string 21.05.25 # MT: like app/recorder/keyboard.c ? ;-) 21.05.31 # \o/ 21.05.35 # you guys think of everything 21.05.41 # lol 21.05.58 # and then search through the playlist, returning the first x results 21.05.58 # hehe 21.06.22 # a playlist search would probably be welcomed. 21.06.42 # okays, i'll give it a crack :) 21.08.25 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.10.47 # Zagor: do I need to clear mp3buf after use, or just leave as is? 21.11.01 # could u add individual songs to playlist soon? 21.17.25 # jzoss: just leave it 21.17.30 # thx 21.18.28 # sorry for pestering. I just figured I'd pelt you with questions while I caught you. (pesky timezones....) 21.18.50 # no problem 21.19.05 # i'd rather you ask first than post a soddy implementation :-) 21.19.18 # no guarantees that it won't still be shoddy. =) 21.19.22 # hehe 21.19.36 # :-( 21.19.46 # track? What makes you sad? 21.20.25 # my Archos has a dent in it where I dropped it 21.21.00 # some people go out and ceremonially ding their cars when they first buy them, so they won't feel bad when the inevitable "real" first-ding comes 21.21.08 # You could pretend you intended to ding it. ;) 21.21.31 # lol. Im not worried about the dent, im worried about causing the Archos pain :-( 21.23.19 # lol 21.23.59 # ;-) 21.27.25 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-230-110.bct.bellsouth.net) 21.32.57 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 21.38.18 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 21.43.12 Quit []morpheus[] (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.55.27 Quit Snorlax () 22.01.28 Join Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 22.21.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.19.33 Join Blade [0] (jirc@ACB3A254.ipt.aol.com) 23.26.39 # Zagor: A language capitalization question? 23.27.39 # ok? 23.29.47 # Zagor: There has been a major overhaul in english.lang with big leading chars on all words. I'm not native english speaking (as you know ;-) but it seems strange to me. Is this particular thing for english or should we go for this style in all translations? 23.30.03 Quit Blade ("Leaving") 23.30.14 # it's special for english 23.30.47 # you have some reference to support this? Please enlighten me. 23.33.11 # I don't think it's formal. just yanks tend to capitalize the first character of many things, song titles etc. 23.33.25 # i haven't looked at the latest english changes though 23.34.37 # well it seems to very consequent capitalize all words which might be good (to be consequent.) 23.36.40 # Zagor: I'm getting a CPUAdrEr (I09 at 0900FCF8) when I try to write out the copyBuf contents to the file. It's always at the same address. I've traced it down to the "write whole sectors" section of readwrite. Still working from there. Any ideas? =) 23.37.39 # jzoss: make sure the address is even 23.37.50 # address of what? 23.38.51 # the buffer you write 23.39.25 # we can read to odd addresses, but writes have to be even 23.40.20 # Ahhhh.... so I'm doing read-a-stripe, write-a-stripe. And I need to set up the stripe size (and offsets) so the stripe writes always happen on even boundaries? Gotchya. 23.41.56 # exactly 23.42.19 # you want to make sure to always read/write even 512 byte chunks, since that's how large a sector is 23.42.32 # if you write smaller parts, it will be slower 23.42.45 # right, but still works (ther than the even-write restriction). 23.43.27 # It's sufficient to make sure that all writes happen at an even SEEK offset, right? Don't need to check whether the file itself is aligned on an even/odd boundary. Right? 23.44.39 # no, the important thing is the buffer pointer in memory. the file position is irrelevant. 23.44.47 # cool. thx 23.57.13 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.57.18 # zagor? 23.57.24 # yup 23.57.39 # i have found a problem with the fat code 23.57.58 # close() returns -113 when recording 23.58.13 # which means that fat_seek() returns -1 23.58.43 # hmm