--- Log for 04.03.103 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 7 days and 13 hours ago 00.03.19 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-230-110.bct.bellsouth.net) 00.03.36 Part barker`coding 00.13.55 # hrm 00.14.11 # technically is it illegal to rip a CD that your spouse (brother, roomate, ect) bought? 00.14.39 # it depends on your country's laws 00.14.57 # USOFA 00.15.01 # do you know laws for it? 00.15.19 # not good enough to tell for sure, no 00.15.32 # IMHO it is moral though...stealing music, software, TV episodes, movies ect from Kazaa is totally immoral, but I dont think that is 00.15.52 # even if I just used a CD that belonged to my brother...same idea only two people could use it at the same time 00.16.30 Join elinenbe__ [0] (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 00.17.12 # Jet8810: who knows 00.17.17 # hello there. 00.17.25 # hi elinen 00.17.28 Nick elinenbe__ is now known as elinenbe (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 00.17.34 # tracktheripper: hello 00.17.34 # hi Eric 00.17.38 # Jet8810: afaik, the RIAA'd like it to be illegal for you to rip a CD you yourself own 00.17.44 # heh true 00.17.46 # Jet8810: and it could be under the DMCA and friends 00.17.51 # hi Daniel 00.18.03 # too many people use that as an excuse to steal music though (not implying that you do of course) 00.18.23 # i only steel music from the theifs (record companies) 00.18.29 # blah 00.18.33 # you are stealing from artists too 00.18.35 # if the artists were getting my $15 i'd be much more inclined to buy it 00.18.37 # I've been wondering... what needs to be done before the 2.0 release? 00.18.50 # Psycho, regardless you are stealing then though and thou shalt not steal :) 00.19.00 # I am not gonna argue, but that is my POV 00.19.02 # elinenbe: I think we're mainly waiting for Linus' somewhat large mpeg rewrite 00.19.17 # Bagder: nice. 00.19.29 # everything seems to work pretty well. 00.19.43 # there are only a few bugs I can think of. 00.20.02 # playlist position not updating on the wps. 00.20.03 # 46 open ones 00.20.08 # Jet8810: yeah i understand your point of view 00.20.11 Join Pete [0] (jirc@p50857E18.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.20.12 # Jet8810: except on TV shows... 00.20.16 # heh 00.20.18 # directory not refresing after a rename or delete. 00.20.32 # Bagder: are you going to try and get them closed before 2.0? 00.20.36 # on TV shows its a bit of a more strict moral thing, I admit, but if they have a DVD collection then you should buy it before downloading episodes 00.21.31 # heh 00.21.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.22.17 # honestly i think the big corporations are much worse than i am :p 00.22.24 # i'm happy to steal from them 00.22.31 # i feel like i'm doing my part to help make the world a better place :p 00.23.17 # who the hell sent that "Make the Jukebox Recorder 20 make tea" request before it was removed from Sourceforge? 00.23.39 # tracktheripper: hey thats a good idea 00.23.59 # someone sent it to Sourceforge but now its been removed 00.26.20 # it was rejected ;-) 00.26.25 # Jet8810: i also don't think it's as cut and dried as "stealing" something that costs nothing to reproduce, especialy if it's something i wouldn't have bought anyway.. they didn't lose anything :p 00.26.41 # i rejected it.. 00.26.44 # i mean.. come on.. 00.26.48 # coffee is sooo much better 00.26.52 # * adi|work pasha's 00.26.54 # pff coffee sucks 00.27.02 # heh Psyco 00.27.07 # my POV stands firm :) 00.27.20 # do you mean removed Adi? 00.27.21 # oh i'm not trying to change your mind 00.27.25 # just presenting my POV :p 00.27.28 # because its no longer in Sourceforge 00.27.33 # no.. i rejected it.. 00.27.38 # no.. its there ;) 00.27.41 # tracktheripper: its still there, only rejected 00.27.41 # its just closed :) 00.28.00 # oh right so it will be in the "Feature Requests" on this site 00.28.07 # no 00.28.09 # its closed 00.28.29 # and that'd be why i closed it ;) 00.28.47 # btw.. no response on the tld guy 00.28.47 # :( 00.28.48 # i was expecting it to be in Feature Request with the de rigeour "This is not possible due to hardware limitations" 00.29.09 # that's pointless 00.29.14 # yea Psyco, my consciouss tells me that its wrong, and my logic as well so I refuse to ignore that 00.29.16 # we have ~250 closed requests 00.29.17 # ack! 00.29.22 # we can't leave them all open 00.29.44 # hmm 00.29.52 # how about allowing saving of queue lists as playlists? 00.30.03 # * adi|work whistles innocnetly as he realizes he broke the irc loggin script 00.30.46 # bagder do you have the ability to update the irc page on the website? 00.30.54 # <--- gonna have a shower 00.30.57 # not easily 00.30.58 # if not.. we won't have irclogs available till all the scripts run 00.31.03 # ahh.. okay.. then we wait 00.31.11 # I remember the time u rejected my "Auto Voice Transcriber " request Adimas 00.31.12 # lol 00.31.15 # i mistakenly left a line commented out when i was testing, and commited it... 00.31.18 # was soooooooo funny 00.31.22 # I 00.31.26 # :) 00.31.29 # am about to leave you know 00.31.31 # now 00.31.36 # see ya 00.31.37 # :( 00.31.40 # later 00.31.41 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 00.31.55 # "im not even gonna dignify this with consideration since u have not read the FAQ" 00.31.57 # heeheehee!!! 00.32.19 # :) 00.32.21 # i try :) 00.32.29 # at least im consisten 00.32.32 # consistent 00.32.34 # lol I was kinda drunk when I said that :-) 00.32.42 # ((gives Adimas a big hug)) 00.32.57 # hehehe 00.33.07 # gonna have shower brb 00.33.38 # mind you, it would be good for extracting song lyrics!!! 00.39.16 # back 00.40.00 # 6 minute shower? 00.40.07 # just a quick one 00.40.10 # was kinda hot 00.40.29 # what'd you do, get wet then dry off? 00.40.42 # lol 00.40.47 # no used shower gel 00.40.55 # I have a high-power electric shower 00.41.01 # heh 00.42.08 # If Rockbox could just include a few more things then it would be sorted 00.44.10 # tracktheripper: what are you looking for? 00.45.07 # 1) Change the arrowcurser to the line on the "redesigned interface", 2) Add filename and ID3 tag entering for recording, 3) Add individual songs to a playlist 00.45.29 # heh 00.46.04 # thats all I like to see added, nothing else 00.46.10 # 4) add non-recursive playlist building, 5) playlist track removal, 00.47.06 # 6) track-group addition/removal 00.47.17 # yea 00.47.17 # and uh probably some other things :p 00.47.18 # for me 00.47.18 # heh 00.47.25 # What about Diagnose like on the Archos firmware 00.47.32 # so, what you really want is a full featured playlist editor? 00.47.38 # elinenbe: yeah 00.47.39 # Diagnose is shit. 00.47.44 # whats diagnose? 00.48.14 # something in the Archos firmware that checks the condition of the hard drive 00.48.21 # oh 00.48.29 # hah i think i remember that or something 00.48.36 # didn't seem to really do anything 00.48.53 # Hi there, 00.49.29 # well it always said "OK" 00.49.30 # I think Debug -> Runtime soes not work. 00.51.21 # I play music for hours but Debug -> Runtime, Current Time shows only minutes. Am I doing something wrong? 00.52.44 Quit _seb_ ("Who knows what tomorrow will bring... maybe sunshine, maybe rain. But as for me I'll wait and see.") 00.53.22 Join _seb_ [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 00.53.38 Quit edx () 00.55.01 # and the feature police strike again. 00.55.54 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 00.56.10 # Any help is welcome 00.59.45 # one time i turned it on and went to that runtime thing 00.59.48 # and it said 11 minutes 01.00.13 # so uh i think it's just got issues :p 01.00.54 # what are we talking about here? 01.01.18 # Debug->View Runtime 01.01.24 # hmm havn't used it 01.07.28 Quit elinenbe ("ChatZilla 0.8.11 [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3a; MultiZilla v1.1.32 final) Gecko/20021212]") 01.20.12 Quit Pete ("Leaving") 01.58.52 Join jzoss [0] (jzoss@cs6711155-229.satx.rr.com) 02.21.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.35.00 Join fencehouse [0] (dokewalker@adam044-052.resnet.wisc.edu) 02.36.04 # hey I have a question about building the rockbox firmware 02.36.19 # I'll help if I can. =) 02.36.27 # i got the cygwin thing working allright 02.36.40 # yah? 02.36.48 # but how do I direct the configure or the make to the source code I want to build? 02.37.04 # its building a firmware, but I don't know from where? 02.37.24 # "configure" is not a system function. It's a local script provided with the source you download 02.37.45 # So if you run configure, it'll run whatever "configure" script is in your current directory 02.37.46 # so each source I download has its own configure? 02.37.50 # Yup 02.38.38 # Make works similarly. There *is* a system "make" program, but it doesn't usually do much on its own. Instead, each source comes with one (or more) "Makefiles". If you run "make", it reads commands from these makefiles to determine how to build the source 02.38.56 # So typing "make" reads commands from the Makefile in whatever directory you're in. 02.39.14 # alright - thanks 02.39.26 # i'm going to do some more playing around now 02.39.27 # thanks 02.39.30 Quit fencehouse () 02.46.46 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 02.48.50 Join Guest [0] (jirc@Bd4f4.pppool.de) 02.49.13 DBUG Enqueued KICK Guest 02.49.13 # 4hello ?! 02.49.17 # hiya 02.50.05 # sorry but i'm a beginner and i want to compile uisim 02.50.20 # okay...what's your question? =) 02.51.12 # error response 02 in cygwin or with msvc nmake 02.51.20 # what can i do 02.51.25 # what's the error message? 02.53.24 # nmake return code 0x02 02.53.46 # yah, but above the error code, it should have a text message explaining why the compile failed... 02.57.23 # ../../firmware/drivers/lcd.c(89) : error C2143: Syntaxfehler : Fehlendes ')' vor 02.57.47 # translation >> syntax error missing 02.58.04 # missing ")", eh? In lcd.c line 89... 02.59.37 # have ms visual c++6 (service pack 5) installed 03.00.29 # so, take a look at lcd.c, line 89 and see if it looks like there's a missing ")" somewhere. Do you know any C? 03.01.48 # i think the code is correce because i've compied the fimware incygwin earlier 03.02.13 # Hmmm.... well, then, I don't really know what the problem would be. Sorry. :S 03.02.59 # i work with the original files downloaded 03.04.02 # I'm probably not going to be much help... I tried with cygwin and couldn't get it to work, so I'm compiling rockbox in Linux now 03.04.03 # can you describe how do you comple the uisim 03.04.40 # 1) create a rockbox directory ("mkdir ~/rockbox") 03.04.48 # 2) cd ~/rockbox 03.05.10 # 3) Download latest version from CVS (or from web) 03.05.38 # 4) Create a directory for your build results ("mkdir build-sim" 03.06.04 # 5) Create a makefile for what you want ot build ("../tools/configure") 03.06.13 # 6) build the code ("make") 03.06.28 # All this assumes you've got cygwin setup correctly, with sh1 cross-compiler and all 03.07.08 # same i do ( use source from download area) 03.07.23 # for compiling the firmware 03.07.49 # yah, I really don't know what would cause the code to stop compiling if you're using the same code that has worked in the past... 03.07.50 Quit Guest ("Leaving") 03.07.59 Join Guest [0] (jirc@Bd4f4.pppool.de) 03.08.12 Join elinenbe [0] (~chatzilla@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 03.08.51 # hello jzoss still there i had an error occured 03.08.56 # I'm here 03.09.12 # Are you trying to use a patch? If not, why not just use your rockbox code that compiled okay before? 03.10.48 # i tried to use the makecyg.patch (in februar mailing list ) 03.11.07 # + mingw-runtime 03.11.24 # hmm.. Sometimes patches screw things up if you apply them against different code than they were originally intended for 03.12.09 # i tried both versions ( with and without patch) 03.12.27 # {shrug} sorry. I'm all out of ideas 03.12.41 # last question 03.12.50 # 'kay 03.12.57 # I'm not sick of questions. Just out of answers. =) 03.13.23 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-230-110.bct.bellsouth.net) 03.13.37 # in the patch ther was a patch for /win32/font.c 03.13.47 # but there is no file ??? 03.14.32 # that's a little odd. Does it create the file? My win32 directory doesn't have any font.c either 03.15.10 # ok thats i want to hear thanks 03.17.42 Quit elinenbe ("ChatZilla 0.8.11 [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3a; MultiZilla v1.1.32 final) Gecko/20021212]") 03.18.55 # sorry i was wrong >> in the patchfile was a missing sprintf.h mentioned not font.c 03.19.16 # I do have an sprintf.h file in /uisimulator/win32 03.23.53 # does this file only comes with cvs ? (it's not in the "offical" rockbox1.4.tar.gz 03.24.02 # ) 03.24.14 # I was checking a just-updated CVS install. 03.24.58 # Your patch is probably for a version more recent than the 1.4 download. That's (1.4) been around for quite a while 03.29.22 # maybe 03.33.30 # ok i log of, thanks for answering (have a good recollect of answers ... ;-) ) bye 03.33.40 # no prob 03.33.43 # good luck! 03.33.56 # thanks 03.33.58 Quit Guest ("Leaving") 03.53.46 Join Guest [0] (jirc@Bd402.pppool.de) 03.53.56 # any luck? 03.54.05 # YES 03.54.12 # woohoo! congrats 03.54.20 # i just wann say it 03.54.38 # are you interested in 03.55.07 # the descripion ? 03.55.12 # sure 03.55.36 # do you have msvc 03.55.45 # at work, not home 03.57.27 # i have cygwin installed as described 03.57.40 # yah? And you're using msvc? Hmmm... 03.58.04 # i have msvc version 6 + servicepack 5 03.58.41 # then i run E:\Microsoft visual studio\VC98\Bin\VCVARS32.BAT 03.58.51 # to use nmake 03.59.00 # okay... I'm with ya so far 03.59.51 # then i simply run nmake -f makefile.vc6 in cygwin shell 04.00.40 # that's not too difficult 04.00.49 # Glad it works for you 04.01.13 # i think i will post a description to the mailinglist soon 04.01.31 # step by step 04.01.42 # that'd probably help people. Check 1st to make sure it's not in the docs or FAQ anywhere. 04.02.11 # that thing with E:\Micros-1\VC98\Bin\VCVARS32.BAT is nowhere to read 04.02.40 # this is neccesary for correct use 04.03.03 # it is not enough to simple put nmake in PATH 04.03.12 # good job tracking that down 04.04.29 # my problem all the time was >> using rockbox-1.4.tar.gz instead of cvs 04.05.37 # i thought there is a correct version for uisimulator inside, but that version did not work 04.06.33 # so thanks to you >> so i found out that i had to use cvs 04.09.52 # ok bye then good night 04.10.02 Quit Guest ("Leaving") 04.22.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.03.19 Join Freddyfry [0] (~freddyfry@cm-68-115-171-119.ashe.nc.charter.com) 05.04.01 # Can you stand a newbie question? 05.04.16 # sure...what's up? 05.04.53 # I just bought a jukebox fm recorder... I am a bit confused about the "no FM" limitation 05.05.19 # Can i load the firmware and just not have fm capabilities? 05.05.23 # Rockbox was originally developed for players & recorders (which don't have FM). 05.05.26 # The FM support requires extra coad, which just hasn't been implemented yet 05.05.32 # But will (hopefully) eventually 05.05.44 # So you can run the Rockbox firmware and just not have FM. 05.05.59 # Great! I'll load it up... Thanks for your time. 05.06.11 # And you can revert to the archos firmware if you need FM support 05.06.18 # No prob 05.06.28 # you can get the archos firmware from their website 05.06.40 # its the same version as 'hard coded' in the fm 05.06.43 # yes 05.06.57 # revert by deleting the rockbox files? 05.07.26 # theres no fm functionality at all with the rockbox, i'm just happy it works :) fm will come later (after 2.0) 05.07.29 # yes 05.07.45 # or by 'playing' the archos firmware ajbrec.ajz in rockbox 05.07.54 # will boot the original firmware 05.08.15 # Thanks again, Good night. 05.08.43 Quit Freddyfry () 05.09.28 # If you rename the rockbox "ajbrec.ajz" to something different, it won't load at startup. 05.09.28 # Which is probably easier 06.02.30 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.22.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.53.36 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 07.00.27 Quit jzoss ("BitchX: the ONLY bug-free client") 07.04.39 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 07.04.45 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 07.04.52 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|sleep (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 07.18.17 Join Naked [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 07.30.24 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 07.30.24 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 07.53.32 Quit Hadaka (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.53.32 NSplit sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 07.53.32 Quit Snorlax (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.53.32 Quit PsycoXul (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.53.32 Quit webmind (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.53.32 Quit dw|gone (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 07.53.32 Quit GreyShadow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.53.32 Join GreyShadow [0] (~Snak@adsl-209-204-188-244.sonic.net) 07.55.36 NHeal sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 07.55.36 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 07.55.36 NJoin Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 07.55.36 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-46-5.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 07.55.36 NJoin webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 07.55.36 NJoin dw|gone [0] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.08.07 Join Bagder [0] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) 08.09.46 # Bagder: hello 08.09.51 # hi 08.11.18 # g'nite 08.11.23 # :-) 08.11.26 # ahh.. much better.. im happy with the way the irc logs look now :) 08.11.28 # or moring in your case 08.11.42 # adi|home: yes, looks nice 08.12.00 # we could probably reverse the order of all lines though 08.12.00 # hehe i screwed it up last night :) 08.12.10 # you mean newest first? 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09.52.46 # yes 09.52.53 # but not really warm until may 09.54.12 # i fear what you call warm... 09.54.22 # for me warm is nearly 25ºC 09.54.41 # don't make me hit you ;-) 09.55.18 # you can't, now i'm the mascot and the techno-priest... laws protect me ;) 09.55.24 # darn 09.57.02 # i was wondering... do you remember that paranoic f2 screen? 09.57.11 # yes 09.57.33 # what about a scrolling screen? 09.57.57 # could work, more to code though 09.58.17 # i can try it 09.58.37 # the problem is not if it can or cannot work.. 09.58.50 # the problem is... will your brother like it? ;) 10.22.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.23.56 Quit dwihno (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.23.56 NSplit sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.23.56 Quit webmind (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.23.56 Quit PsycoXul (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.23.56 Quit Hadaka (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.23.56 Quit Bagder (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.23.56 Quit Snorlax (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.24.32 NHeal sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.24.32 NJoin Bagder [0] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) 10.24.32 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 10.24.32 NJoin Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 10.24.32 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-46-5.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 10.24.32 NJoin webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 10.24.32 NJoin dwihno [0] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 10.26.59 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.27.08 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.27.54 # g'day 10.28.54 # Hellö! 10.30.12 # What do you guys think about using additional memory for dir caching? 10.30.24 # Imagine having the entire dir structure in memory :D 10.30.34 # honestly, I don't care 10.30.49 # :O 10.30.50 # :) 10.31.36 # dwihno: you 10.31.36 # 'd have to rewrite some major portions for that 10.32.13 # :-( 10.32.33 # I 10.32.41 # would make the fat code do the caching if I 10.32.46 # would add that feature 10.33.02 # perhaps 10.33.18 # Would it be a waste of memory? 10.33.35 # I don't even know how much memory it would consume :) 10.36.17 # cd /mnt/archos && find . -print >dump; wc -l dump 10.36.26 # or rather wc dump 10.37.23 # moin 10.41.36 # i thought a bit about that 10.41.56 # what about using name_buffer and dircache in tree.c for as many dirs, as there is room for? 10.42.40 # Schnueff: you still need to rewrite it to be aware of multiple dirs 10.42.43 # yes 10.42.53 # i know, it's some rewriting 10.43.15 # but the idea is sound, imho 10.44.20 # Bagder: in the fat code, u would hook in dir caching in the opendir() function? 10.44.28 # yeah 10.44.38 # then the rest of the system wouldn't need to know 10.44.48 # and then, name_buffer / dircache in tree.c can be dropped? 10.44.51 # or parts of them? 10.44.57 # yes 10.45.04 # ok, that sounds good too 10.45.30 # more generic 10.45.31 # uh, we still need the dircache in tree.c 10.45.43 # to sort? 10.45.44 # for what? 10.45.50 # sort, yes 10.45.52 # it's used by the browser. the browser can't muck about in dir.c's buffer 10.46.09 # sorting, filtering, traversing 10.46.36 # ok, maybe some code then between fat and tree 10.46.42 # which could expose the data to tree.c 10.49.14 # or trying something similar to scandir(3) 10.49.55 # (without malloc'ing) 10.59.15 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB655FB.ipt.aol.com) 10.59.33 # morning 11.00.01 # everyone 11.10.02 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 11.27.42 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAA858.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.39.46 Join TBoy [0] (~jirc@212.204.98.17) 11.39.54 # hi 11.40.12 # hi 11.40.22 # how big is the mem on the rec fm 11.41.48 # hello 11.41.54 # does anybody know 11.42.04 # 2mb 11.42.21 # are you shure 11.42.31 # because it doesnt say that on the archos site 11.42.58 # rip it apart and check out the chips 11.43.08 # but yes, I'm pretty sure 11.43.23 # ok 11.43.41 # hey why does the java irc always diplasy 11.43.52 # unregistered copy evaluation only 11.44.00 # ask webmaster to register it 11.44.20 # and you can't figure out why it says that? 11.44.50 # it *might* be that it is an unregistered copy 11.45.02 # yeah i just thought about it now 11.45.10 # what a stupid question 11.45.22 # plees excuse myself 11.45.25 # :D 11.51.46 Quit TBoy ("Leaving") 11.52.08 Join TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.204.98.17) 11.52.30 # ok I now changed to mirc 11.54.24 # I'm new to Rockbox and Archos 11.54.36 # my fm should arrive today 11.55.00 # and if I use a smaller font I can fit more on the display, am I right 12.01.39 # yes 12.02.03 # ok thx 12.12.58 Join Kuji [0] (~kuji@m127-mp1.cvx2-c.lng.dial.ntli.net) 12.14.24 # hallooo 12.14.47 # hi 12.15.14 # anything exciting happening.. 12.15.37 # Im in search of a tool to sort out this frigging box 12.15.51 # something to convert to a standard fat32 not XP 12.15.53 # fat32 12.16.12 # anyone know of a formatter that doesn't use the OS to do it.. 12.16.28 # will partition magic format independently of os ? 12.21.05 Join Kuji_ [0] (~kuji@m130-mp1.cvx2-c.lng.dial.ntli.net) 12.21.05 Quit Kuji (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.22.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.25.21 # Kuji: Think so. That paragon partition manager will also do (along with a heap of tools) 12.25.21 Quit Kuji_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.31.36 Join Kuji [0] (~kuji@62.252.180.160) 12.32.05 # Kuji: do you have any links to information about this "xp fat32" ? 12.32.28 # zagor... hello 12.32.36 # Kuji: partition magic will do that 12.32.42 # well, Im formatting it with PM 7 now to see if it makes a dfference 12.33.01 # it picked up some errors that nothin else did 12.33.16 # I think the filesystem must have knackered in a weird way 12.33.20 # chkdsk found file errors 12.33.23 # scandisk passed 12.33.24 # imaybe :) 12.33.26 # norton passed 12.33.40 # PM7 found cross linked file and incorrect partition size 12.33.54 # halfway formatting see if this sorts the bitch 12.34.54 # oh some guy did a review of archos vs creative zen and said the zen won.. I wrote to him and suggested RB and do a re review.. heh 12.36.04 # Hoping this works.. I want to do some proper long recording of some techno and psytrance nights (about 8 hours+) and the archos firmware usually cacks out.... 12.38.37 # well we're having recording problems too at the moment 12.39.11 # well at least I can test !! if the bloody box allows me to copy files off it 12.45.41 # Zagor: I had a funky experience while biking last night. First, the unit hung while playing "Every sperm is sacred", by Monty Python... After a minute of silence (approx) it skipped into a new track (not from the beginning though). 12.47.02 # here we go 12.47.08 # FUCK 12.47.16 # still file or dir corrupted 12.47.17 # bah 12.49.23 # do you need a technopriest? 12.49.41 # i'm not too expensive ;) 12.53.45 Join Kuji_ [0] (~kuji@m153-mp3.cvx2-a.lng.dial.ntli.net) 12.53.55 # dwihno: did it really hang then? solid red light? 12.53.55 # bahh bloody crashed machine 12.55.07 # Zagor: Didn't see, I had it in my pocket and was biking quite fast. Didn't really look close... 12.55.17 # ok 12.55.33 # zagor, what cluster size should it be ... its set to 16k, but there must be something wrong..anything RB creates is not transferrable 12.55.35 # grr 12.57.54 Quit Kuji (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12.59.32 Quit Kuji_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.06.08 Join Kuji [0] (~kuji@m195-mp1.cvx2-b.lng.dial.ntli.net) 13.06.38 # Yay fixed it 13.07.09 # reformatted AGAIN using win ME and it works... seems XP fat32 structure is not quite standard .. weird !!! 13.07.14 # fuck it . it works now.. 13.45.04 # ok amp let me out 13.58.15 # lunch time! 13.58.19 # cu later! 14.04.41 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.11.34 # Zagor: I got more testing coming up from my latest bike ride ;D 14.12.38 # Zagor: The music went silent, still updating the progress... Went into the mpeg meter thing and noticed the music coming back before disk spin up 14.13.07 # :-) 14.13.18 # dwihno: but no red led? 14.13.21 # Nope 14.13.24 # Not this time 14.13.33 # good. then I can blame Linus :) 14.13.34 # I guess this is what happened on sunday 14.15.11 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@62.4.7.1) 14.22.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.22.23 Join NibbIer [0] (~blabla@nusnet-228-5.dynip.nus.edu.sg) 14.28.29 Join wir|hagge [0] (Ich@nusnet-219-96.dynip.nus.edu.sg) 14.28.36 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.33.55 Part Kuji 14.50.19 Quit dwihno (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.50.19 NSplit sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.50.19 Quit webmind (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.50.19 Quit PsycoXul (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.50.19 Quit Hadaka (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.50.19 Quit Bagder (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.50.19 Quit Snorlax (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 14.50.29 NHeal sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 14.50.29 NJoin Bagder [0] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) 14.50.29 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 14.50.29 NJoin Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 14.50.29 NJoin PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-46-5.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 14.50.29 NJoin webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 14.50.29 NJoin dwihno [0] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 14.56.54 Join Kuji [0] (~kuji@m195-mp1.cvx2-b.lng.dial.ntli.net) 14.57.13 # interesting fat fix from linus 14.57.22 # Fat fix (tm) ` 14.57.23 # ? 14.57.30 # cool 14.57.57 # goodie! 14.58.22 # the recording.. just had first experience.. 14.58.29 # did 1 hour, only recorded 30mins.. 14.58.42 # where are the bugs listed 14.59.16 # Kuji: grab the bleeding edge build that appears in a few minutes 14.59.23 # ok 15.04.04 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 15.04.07 # what does the latest fix 15.04.36 # a file system bug 15.04.36 Quit Kuji (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.04.48 # Major bug? 15.04.52 # yup 15.04.55 # Red LED dead fix? 15.05.07 # (sorry, had to come up with a catchy name) :) 15.05.09 # nono, major 15.05.14 # the recording bug 15.05.20 # :O 15.05.32 Join Kuji [0] (~kuji@m236-mp3.cvx2-a.lng.dial.ntli.net) 15.06.08 # :O 15.06.15 # The 13:50 commit? 15.06.32 # yes 15.06.36 # available now 15.06.43 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-recorder/ajbrec.ajz 15.06.57 # neato 15.07.17 # (though I only used recording once, during this summer when I appeared on a radio show) :) 15.07.35 # I will give it a try see if recording any better !! 15.07.43 # Kuji: good 15.12.23 # Hmm 15.14.33 # minor bug, major crash :-) 15.14.57 # recording no 15.14.58 # w 15.15.05 # back in a hour or so 15.49.05 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 15.49.05 # * Bagder detects every single linux distro mailing their advisories about sendmail 15.49.18 # the joy of plularism 15.49.29 # * Bagder can't type and should stop trying 15.49.38 # Yet another root exploit huh? 15.49.42 # yeah 15.49.55 # I'm not surprised 15.49.59 # me neither 15.50.06 # I should alert the admins 15.50.17 # * PsycoXul uses qmail 15.50.28 # I used postfix when I did mail stuff ages ago 15.54.23 # I just find it annoying that every single distro need to send out their own adviosory 15.55.24 # *nods* 16.07.17 # just stopped recording... 16.07.20 # checking... 16.07.51 # well time recorded is wrong to start... -14 mins.. 16.07.52 # * Bagder watches 16.07.58 # ok.. 16.08.03 # goes beyond end point 16.08.08 # will reencode 16.09.25 # * dwihno enters SLEEP mode to preserve the power. 16.09.48 # * Bagder downloads the ui mod patch 16.09.54 Join sdbarker [0] (~sdb@adsl-68-74-103-158.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 16.10.10 # * dwihno sends a valium to Bagder to prevent shock 16.10.12 # an 84KB monster 16.10.25 # is there a quicker way to get a correct header than reencoding ? 16.10.42 # Kuji: Linus is working on Xing header stuff, afaik 16.10.54 # and VBRI (I think) 16.10.59 # a program that fixes the xing header wouldn't need to re-encode 16.11.09 # any suggestions. 16.11.14 # sorry, no 16.11.16 # heh 16.11.21 # I'm just speaking theoreticly 16.12.55 # dum dee dum... 16.13.36 # * Bagder ehums 16.13.41 # Melodie MC - Dum da dum 16.13.44 # lcd_invertrect(x,MARGIN_Y+y*8,112,8); 16.13.57 # that'll not be nice with non-8 pixels fonts 16.14.13 # Bagder: please add a cursor invert patch :D 16.14.34 # recorded length @ 52mins ... mp3 length 38 mins 16.14.36 # my plan is to see what we can use from this package 16.14.59 # Bagder: is the plan top secret? Do I have to call Mr. Phelps? 16.15.13 # Kuji: but at least the file system works :-) 16.15.24 # weird-- is also refusing to charge battery with bleeding edge 16.15.26 # it is not top secret that I have doubts on this huge kind of bloat-patch in one single go 16.15.57 # The bigger, the better? :) 16.16.05 # after ~200 lines, I already know we can't use it as-is 16.16.20 # it is very naive 16.16.53 # hmm I think it IS charging, but the charge graphic isnt updating.. its stuck on the last booted power numeric 16.17.16 # when I rebooted the number had gone up... but it aint moving now again.. 16.22.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.26.56 # Kuji: you don't have "deep discharge" on, do you? 16.28.28 Quit TBoy () 16.31.56 # I think the ui mod patch has three good parts 16.32.08 # 1) inverted cursor 16.32.11 # ;) 16.32.21 # 2) One screen for all audio stuff 16.32.33 # 3) tighter display 16.32.39 # Which are your three? :) 16.32.43 # 3 is due to 1 16.33.07 # I'm also giving the tetris mod a chance 16.33.20 # not that I've seen it in use 16.34.26 # Zagor: you checked out the bookmark patch lately? 16.35.36 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-school (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 16.35.42 # Bagder: no 16.36.04 # should I? 16.36.11 # no, just asking 16.36.16 # I'm getting it now 16.37.02 # Zagor: i told Bagder tyhis morning that i was thinking in a scrolling quick screen display :) 16.37.13 # *this morning 16.37.37 # Bagder: didn't he also remove some additional pixels? 16.37.48 # possibly, yes 16.38.01 # I couldn't tell 16.38.06 # http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/savepixels.png 16.38.16 # http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/reverse_ui.png 16.38.41 # and my fav: 16.38.42 # http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/graph_sound_digital_sliders3.png 16.38.44 # :)~ 16.39.29 # oooh... i like those. 16.39.31 # :) 16.40.50 # Yeah, it's really ögongodis 16.41.00 # But hey, that's just me :) 16.41.02 # Zagor: he's using comma as separator now 16.41.11 # ... ogongodis? 16.41.15 # eyecandy :) 16.41.16 # ok 16.41.26 # Aye. 16.41.41 # Eye candy is what helps make things useable though. I really like the icons from Joaquim's builds. 16.41.52 # yeah them's nice 16.42.00 # Zag, Bag, what do you guys think about those screens? 16.42.16 # It'd be great if /they/ could get pulled into the main trunk, too. 16.42.25 # they look good. I wish we had code that implemented them. 16.42.37 # we should add them if we got them 16.42.45 # we would even 16.42.54 # zag & bag heh 16.43.15 # that sounds funny 16.43.26 # hehe. 16.43.28 # Who has the vserver.de thingy btw? 16.43.37 # Perhaps he could be persuaded into coding :) 16.44.01 # ha anybody tried getting ahold of joaquim to add them? 16.44.17 # ... wow... i forgot how to type for a minute. 16.44.39 # I would be happy if Joaquim first made his patches work for all of us 16.44.54 # Zagor: have you read my last line? 16.45.32 # * dwihno fetches some tortilla stuff for quelsaruk 16.45.41 Part Kuji 16.45.55 # the inversed line looks gr8... 16.46.00 # tortilla de patatas?? ;) 16.46.07 # quelsaruk: you may think of whatever you like :-) 16.46.08 # inverted line is a space saver 16.46.12 # I like to save space 16.46.28 # absolutely. 16.46.32 # those screens are by someone else. you probably shouldn't be annoying joaquim about those... 16.46.44 # * dwihno agrees to Zagor 16.47.12 # anyone heard/know anyone who used libmad in the uisim? 16.47.12 # ... not those screens, i mean the ones that are from the specific build that he releases to the mailing list, with the sliders. 16.47.17 # we should consider removing it 16.47.20 # Zagor: i know i can think whatever i like... but i'd like to know if there's a chance that you would like a scrolling screen.... 16.47.22 # ;) 16.48.54 # Bagder: I agree 16.49.07 # I'll do it 16.49.17 # sdbarker: I much prefer the horizontal sliders with proper labels 16.49.28 # I do as well. 16.49.43 # I was referring to my higher preference to the icons that he uses throughout the build though. 16.49.45 # aren't Joaquim's horizontal? 16.49.46 # quelsaruk: hard to say. possibly, if you make it nice :-) 16.49.48 # For charging, the playlist, etc. 16.49.59 # .. and i meant prefererred teh vertical ones. 16.50.03 # you're right Bagder. 16.50.04 # Bagder: joaquim's are vertical, since he wants UP/DOWN to always be the same for volume 16.50.14 # oogh 16.50.42 # i have to run. see you later guys! 16.50.44 # Zagor: then i'll consider doing it :) 16.50.51 Part Zagor 16.54.06 # no more libmad 16.55.04 # dwihno: you read that? zagor is going to accept my weird idea!! 16.55.08 # incredible ;) 16.55.20 # he might 16.55.40 # Bagder: you know how to break all hopes 16.55.45 # haha 16.55.47 # quelsaruk: He is?! What idea? 16.55.57 # quelsaruk: making the rockbox a tortilla remote? 16.56.02 # a scrolling quick screen display 16.56.08 # ? 16.56.09 # umm 16.56.13 # which means... ? 16.56.14 # tortilla........ 16.56.37 # dwihno: i dunno what does that mean.. but if he accepts.. it may be a good idea then ;) 16.56.50 # quelsaruk: haha :) 16.56.53 # you are so crazy 17.00.02 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 17.10.42 # well.. i must be crazy to stay here ;) 17.11.10 Join xam [0] (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 17.11.45 # hi 17.11.49 # hi xam 17.11.49 # hi 17.12.02 # just got the 8mb chip ... scared to do the mod ;) 17.12.07 # :-] 17.12.16 # it's so small! 17.12.52 # try to use a hammer instead of soldering it :) 17.13.05 # i can lend you a big and heavy one 17.13.20 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 17.13.39 # mhh, I don't think that's good for the hs 17.13.41 # hd 17.13.53 # who cares about that things? 17.14.42 # how many people have done the 8mb mod so far? 17.14.47 # 3? 17.14.49 # 2? 17.15.26 # 3 at least 17.17.19 # another question: I didn't follow the recent CVS logs, but I've heard that the CPU suspend stuff is now in CVS, is that true? 17.22.35 # that's true 17.22.40 # cpu sleep that is 17.24.46 # i'm thinking that i know a company that upgrades the ram chip in the Hp-48G calculator. I could ask the spanish distributor if they could be able to upgrade archos ram. I think it was the same kind of ram 17.30.22 # * Bagder overtook the CVS activity table 17.31.52 # see ya 17.31.54 Quit Bagder ("Client Exiting") 18.04.14 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 18.04.15 Quit wir|hagge (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.04.20 # hi elinenbe 18.05.21 # hello there. 18.17.55 # what's the homepage for the 8mb RECORDER hardware mod 18.22.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.22.49 # finally found it 18.36.22 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.42.18 Join jzoss [0] (~none@jkzoss.datasys.swri.edu) 18.42.30 # Hi, all! =) 18.42.35 # howdy 18.43.02 # Uploaded my id3-edit patch last night (woohoo!) 18.43.14 # But it looks like the files have disappeared from the patch :-( 18.43.22 # dunno... 18.43.25 # I guess I'll re-upload tonight when I get home... 18.45.21 Quit Snorlax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.46.51 Join Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 18.49.20 Quit pyvasene ("Client Exiting") 18.49.51 Quit jzoss ("dIRC IRC Client - www.dragonmount.net/dirc/") 19.10.32 Join Rens[afk] [0] (~Rens@f125098.upc-f.chello.nl) 19.20.25 # hmmm 19.21.12 # ive deep discharged my fm recorder 19.21.17 # (by accident) 19.21.30 # MT what's the problem? 19.21.37 # well ive never done it before 19.21.49 # it just has the charge led lit 19.21.55 # no charging screen has come up 19.21.59 # is that normal? 19.22.37 # Mhhh, I don't know about the FM ... the Recorders would have a charging screen anyway 19.23.44 # ah 19.23.50 # got it back to "charging" 19.24.11 # mhh. copying 5 GB to the archos (already copied about 3.5GB) and the batteries are still full 19.24.44 # I like my 2100mAh AA batteries ;) 19.29.15 # heh 19.29.24 # today i had full charge in the morning 19.29.34 # listened to mp3s for 3 hours 19.29.47 # copied 8 gb of red dwarf onto it 19.29.54 # copied 2 gig of mp3 off it 19.30.03 # and for good measure, a 1.2gb divx 19.30.15 # listened to mp3 for another hour and a half on the drive home 19.30.26 # one semi-stupid question.... 19.30.48 # and its crapped out after copying off 6 gb of the red dwarf :) 19.30.54 # usb2.0 needs more batteries than usb1.1 or the same or less?? 19.31.17 # not sure 19.31.28 # especially as fm recorder trickle charges whilst plugged into usb 19.31.39 # jums... 19.31.52 # its not enough to sustain constant hd tho 19.31.54 # i'll use usb2.0 19.33.40 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA90E8.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.33.53 # at least it's faster 19.36.07 # no usb2 in my laptop nor pc 19.37.53 # i have usb2 on my pc (since friday) 19.40.15 # I doubt that usb2 itself need significant more power. And IMHO I think there is no much more power consumption by the harddisk if you use usb2, though it has to transfer more data 19.41.11 # I would say there is no significant increase in overall power consumption when using usb2 19.41.31 # i think it's compsumes less power... i mean, you have to transfer the same amount of data, but in less time, and as the disk has to be spined all time... 19.41.42 # but i'm just thinking loudly.. 19.41.47 # i'm not sure 19.42.16 # quelsaruk if you compare Watt/kb, then you are right, but you usually measure in Watt/h 19.42.46 # or better Energy/kb and Energy/h 19.45.55 # of course... 19.46.28 # but i want to know if copying 1.6 GB via usb2.0 compumes less power 19.46.32 # ;) 19.46.41 # definitely ;) 19.46.58 # that was what i wanted to know 19.47.16 # or to confirm 19.48.56 # 27 minutes for 1.6 GB is a lot? 19.48.58 # ummm 19.49.04 # is that reallyusb2.0?? 19.49.09 # is that really usb2.0?? 19.49.27 # nope, thats usb1 19.49.41 # i thought so 19.49.43 # :( 19.50.11 # umm... 19.50.16 # this is weird 19.50.24 # 27mins * 60s/min * 1.2mb/s = 1.89 (ideally) 19.50.37 # 1.89mb 19.50.44 # thats usb 1.1 19.50.46 # :( 19.50.49 # sorry, wrongh 19.50.52 # mbit 19.50.53 # hm 19.51.40 # 27mins * 60s/min * 12mbit/s / 8bit/byte = 2.37 (ideally) 19.52.16 Quit Rens[afk] () 19.52.16 Join Rens[afk] [0] (~Rens@f125098.upc-f.chello.nl) 19.52.25 # ok.. 19.52.48 # usb2: 27mins * 60s/min * 480mbit/s / 8bit/byte = 94.92 MB (ideally) 19.52.52 # i hope that stupid bastard conected the usb2.0 jumper as enabled..... 19.53.06 # usb2: 27mins * 60s/min * 480mbit/s / 8bit/byte = 94.92 GB (ideally) 19.53.19 # ouch.. 19.53.28 # wait a minute 19.54.52 # quelsaruk: on the package of my recorder it says however: 'max. 12mbyte/s when using usb2'. Probably not the usb2 chip but more likely the harddisk are the limiting factors 19.56.06 # 1 minute 19.57.08 # if that's true 1.6GB would still just take 2.5 mins 19.59.08 # the mainboard has a jumper to enable or dissable the usb2.0 19.59.18 # quelsaruk enable it then ;) 19.59.28 # and the person that assembled the computer had disabled it 19.59.33 # a really weird man 19.59.47 # quelsaruk what OS are you running? 20.00.30 # win2k 20.01.12 # I suppose you have installed the drivers that came with your usb2 card 20.01.42 Quit Rens[afk] () 20.01.52 # I don't know whether win2k supports usb2 out of the box 20.02.12 # of course :) 20.02.23 # i've done all that stuff 20.02.25 # ;) 20.02.32 # i'm back in a minute 20.02.40 # rebooting? 20.07.33 # no 20.07.51 # a university teacher called me to say that his p4 laptop hadn't rgb output 20.07.57 # ..... 20.08.21 # how can anyone say that nonsense?? 20.14.51 # now it says 4 mintes 20.14.57 # thats more logical 20.14.58 # :) 20.17.04 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.18.46 # true ;) 20.19.30 # quelsaruk your teacher is right. your laptop has not a RGB, but a RBG+vsync+hsync ;) 20.19.41 # haha 20.19.46 # it's not my teacher... 20.20.02 # was my teacher ;) 20.20.10 # you know what i wanted to say 20.20.32 # i didn't mean your teacher like in 'a teacher that teaches you', but like in 'the teacher you were talking about' 20.21.05 # well.. he teached me last year ;) 20.22.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.35.38 # quelsaruk did he really teach you or did he just tried to teach you something? 20.36.05 # he tried to teach me electricity 20.36.19 # tri-phasic stuff and machines... 20.36.34 # but.. just tried :) 20.53.16 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 20.54.24 Join random1 [0] (~chatzilla@ak.nlc.com) 20.54.40 Join TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.204.98.17) 20.54.52 # moin 21.15.06 # anybody here have an fm recorder? 21.15.24 # yep 21.15.50 # have you had trouble with freeze-ups either w/ archos firmware or rockbox? 21.16.02 # yes 21.16.11 # more with archos 21.16.19 # and especially when the unit is very cold 21.16.59 # sounds like a hw problem then eh 21.18.26 # theres a thread about it in the mailing list 21.18.43 # well, time to go home 21.18.46 # cu tomorrow 21.18.47 Part quelsaruk (""Eve's Avatar - Avatar's Eve"") 21.20.02 # i will look into that, ty for the pointer 21.35.09 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB38D37.ipt.aol.com) 21.35.20 # hiiiiiiiii 21.38.31 # hi 21.39.06 # hi Tboy 21.42.27 # :) 21.47.18 # What is this libmad removed? 21.51.05 Join bubba1 [0] (~jirc@catermate.com) 21.51.44 # hi Bubba 21.52.29 # hey .. just visiting unless you can help me with diff and patch probs 21.52.55 # well for those u better ask Zagor, Badger or other coders 21.53.08 # i help on non-code side of things 21.53.20 # Ok thanks anyway. 21.53.38 # no probs 21.53.43 # Do you have any perview over the list 21.54.12 # My account used to double post for some unk reason 21.55.37 # Ping Zagor 21.55.58 # dunno 21.56.20 # Just thought I'd try. (time diff).. 21.56.34 # sure 21.56.38 # no worries. 21.56.42 # What Archos do u have? 21.56.58 # Old 6 GB recorder 21.57.06 # mine is a 10Gb recorder 21.57.16 # well its still better than a Player what u have 21.57.25 # about 1.5 yrs old and still going strong. 21.57.48 # lol mine is younger but it gets 10 hours solid use every day and never gives me problems 21.58.16 # getting ready to up it to 20GB I think 40Gb might be overkill for mp3 use 21.58.39 # well unless u encode at 320kbs and insist on having every song under the sun on ur Jukebox 21.59.04 # My ears can't tell the diff. 21.59.16 # what rate do u encode at? 21.59.20 # I encode at 192kbs 22.00.06 # same here eac w/external lame 3.93 22.00.27 # I use Musicmatch with Fraunhofer codec 22.00.33 # I think VBR is better 22.00.40 # I don't like 128kbs as I can hear the compression artefacts 22.00.48 # 192kb/s suits me perfectly 22.00.54 # or do you guys use vbr 22.01.02 # i hate VBR 22.01.09 # VBR gives me nothing but trouble 22.01.18 # like? 22.01.23 # I use VBR exclusively 22.01.42 # bubba1: me too 22.01.42 # Like I said NO ears left 22.02.06 # heh 22.02.11 # what don't you like about vbr 22.02.12 # but I feel VBR is like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut 22.02.21 # eh? 22.02.25 # After all theres no difference with CBR at 192kbs 22.02.27 # size--- 22.02.30 # sure there is 22.02.44 # VBR gives best size to quality ratio 22.02.52 # Agreed 22.02.55 Join b0mBadIEr337 [0] (~mike@pcp02878733pcs.cnorth01.va.comcast.net) 22.02.59 # well I like having constant file sizes with CBR 22.02.59 # whats libmad? 22.03.01 # yep I do it because of the of the size : quality ratio 22.03.01 # I use lame --alt-extreme ;) 22.03.11 # Ive tried VBR and there is no difference to CBR 22.03.17 # 192kbps isn't always enough 22.03.21 # gives you 220-280kb/s 22.03.24 # of course it depends on the kind of music you listen to 22.03.35 # some stuff 128kbps CBR is enough 22.03.44 # Ive compared 192kbs with WAV files and couldn't tell the difference 22.03.53 # PsycoXul if you are half-deaf, then yes 22.03.57 # libmad? 22.04.08 # b0mBadIEr337: mpeg audio player library, was only used for the simulator 22.04.18 # libmad I believe is an old library not used 22.04.28 # ok 22.04.42 # I can hear the difference between 160kb/s and 192kb/s - if I compare both and listen closely 22.05.00 # well Ive compared 192kbs to WAV and couldn't tell the difference 22.05.05 # what can u say about that? ;) 22.05.09 # Will be talking , burning with a few audiophiles this eve I'll ask them 22.05.11 # like i said 22.05.15 # but I can't hear any differences above 192kb/s, and also not between 192kb/s and raw 22.05.17 # it depends on the content 22.05.21 # and also on your ears 22.05.21 # and im a die-hard super MP3 connesiour :-) 22.05.25 # and the device you're playing through 22.05.25 # heh 22.05.36 # honestly i think my computer plays better than the archos 22.05.49 # dunno why 22.05.51 # i can tell a diff tween wav and 192kbs 22.05.51 # just sounds clearer 22.05.57 # but like 22.06.02 # metal or old rock 22.06.04 # its pretty big 22.06.05 # well im sure ur PC has a better sound card than the ARchos 22.06.08 # 128kbps is probably fine 22.06.12 # im out 22.06.16 Quit b0mBadIEr337 (Client Quit) 22.06.16 # odd complex stuff like NIN and Bjork 22.06.22 # 192kbps can still give artifacts sometimes 22.06.35 # artifacts ???? 22.06.46 # well use Realizer and get WAV quality out of a 32kb/s mp3 file :-) heehee 22.06.48 # hey im from Iceland, just wanted to mention that since you mentioned Björk 22.06.58 # and tori amos... 22.07.05 # and Björk both 22.07.09 # their vocals 22.07.16 # can cut off certain ranges in 160 or 192 22.07.26 # PsycoXul it happened to me just twice that could make out a difference between 192kb and 256kb ... I've tested about 50 songs. 22.07.27 # and S-sounds get funky too 22.07.45 # 160 or 192 Hz?? 22.07.52 # no 160 or 192kbps 22.07.53 # heh 22.07.58 # but usually I really can't tell the difference 22.07.59 # hz?? why hz 22.08.08 # don't you mean kbit 22.09.18 # i've still got a couple things from Björk that're 160 and 192kbps and i can hear nastyness in S-sounds and some other misc sounds 22.10.01 # What does 160 - 192 kbps relate to in sound spectrum highs/lows ?? 22.10.12 # PsycoXul 192kbs CBR, or VBR with average 192kbs ? 22.10.15 # Sorry I'm new to all this 22.10.17 # xam: CBR 22.10.28 # bubba1: if there is a direct relationship, i don't know what it is heh 22.10.37 # PsycoXul I can believe that 22.11.00 # yeah i personally use lame --alt-preset standard for things i encode 22.11.18 # Is there a relationship between xxxkbps and a certain freq range Hx kHz 22.11.51 # PsycoXul I used lame --alt-standart, which is about 180-220kbs, now I'm using lame --alt-extreme, which is 220kbps- 280 kpbs 22.12.01 # heh 22.12.06 # yeah one of my friends likes to use extreme 22.12.29 # well at the end u use what suits u best :-) 22.12.44 # i can't even fit all the stuff i've got on my 20G drive as it is 22.13.17 # PsycoXul well, nor can I. But I found a solution to fill the 20GB: mirror debian! 22.13.58 # Is 40Gb really necessary? 22.14.04 # if u are not gonna store data 22.14.08 # xam: no i mean i've got >20G 22.14.20 # i keep having to delete stuff to put new stuff on 22.14.20 # heh 22.14.25 Join Guest [0] (jirc@B42ac.pppool.de) 22.14.30 # i.c. 22.14.41 # same here 22.14.46 # Psyco just "downstep" your large MP3s into something smaller like 128kbs 22.14.46 # i've been looking at 40G's lately 22.14.52 # if u keep running out off room 22.15.02 # tracktheripper: i'd rather delete them and copy them back on later 22.15.03 # where you form PsycoXul? 22.15.03 # heh 22.15.11 # ohhhh 22.15.13 # MT: california 22.15.16 # ah :) 22.15.22 # im from London 22.15.29 # no good me telling you cheap places in the uk to buy 60gb hds :) 22.15.37 # Ithaca New York 22.15.39 # hehe 22.15.47 # hello can anybody tell me how can i obtain a workig uisimulator source for jb player 22.15.50 # ive put a 180Gb drive in mine :-) 22.15.51 # not unless they have cheap international shipping :p 22.16.01 # uh 22.16.01 # heh 22.16.08 # tracktheripper: www.redstore.com and there si no such thing as a 180Gb notebook hd 22.16.11 # biggest 9.5mm drive i've seen is 60G 22.16.12 # heh 22.16.17 # lol i was joking :-) 22.16.18 # 180Gb -- maker?? 22.16.20 # heehee! 22.17.14 # Mind you, it would be cool if there was one 22.17.48 # Maybe if they use just a little more "pixie dust" 22.17.55 # yea 22.18.11 # or squeeze in another platter 22.18.50 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 22.18.54 # They could reduce the thickness of the platters to squeeze another one in 22.21.22 # ACK.. ACK... 4:20 gotta go 22.22.11 Quit bubba1 ("Leaving") 22.22.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.22.53 # tracktheripper use a hammer! 22.23.01 # lol 22.23.08 # well look at the holographic drives! 22.23.24 # 50Tb in something the size of a sugar cube! 22.24.18 # 50Tb = 5,000 Gb 22.30.33 # wouldn't it actualy be 51200GB? 22.30.40 # 1TB=1024GB? 22.30.41 # heh 22.30.59 # or wait... those are probably hardware vendor numbers so it's probably units of 1000 22.32.00 # speaking of contributing ideas... 22.32.07 # the full-line player progressbar is neat 22.32.14 # i dunno if that's been incorporated into the CVS yet 22.32.38 # but i think it'd be neater if you could customize it's mini-numeric display that it has in there too 22.32.55 # no reason it couldn't display track numbers, time elasped, time remaining, or whatever else you wanted and multiple ones at that 22.33.13 # tracktheripper: somebody just said earlier today that they uploaded a patch for that 22.33.16 # i think 22.34.23 # it could also put the line at the top of the line or the bottom of the line depending on what you like and put the numeric displays on the opposite 22.34.27 # heh 22.42.18 Part sdbarker 22.43.06 # unloaded a patch for what? 22.44.40 # I can;t program so how can I upload patches? 22.44.40 # :_ 22.44.43 # :) 22.45.30 # no they uploaded a patch not unloaded one :p 22.46.14 # the person programmed the ability in, then made a patch that contains the difference between the normal source and their copy of the source with the new code 22.46.17 # and then uploaded that patch 22.46.24 # and to use it, you patch your source with it and recompile 22.46.24 # heh 22.47.05 # often times people who submit patches also provide compiled versions with their changes 22.47.09 # as well 22.47.20 # so you should check the patch tracker and look at the entry for that patch and see if they did 22.47.24 # unless you do compile your own 22.47.24 # heh 22.47.30 # and have the patch utility 22.54.36 Quit tracktheripper (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.55.34 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB3554D.ipt.aol.com) 22.55.48 # I hate 56k modems 22.56.03 # better than 1400 baud modems 22.56.09 # :p 22.57.00 # heehee 23.01.12 # bye 23.01.16 Quit xam () 23.12.19 Join tracktheripper1 [0] (jirc@ACB3A9EF.ipt.aol.com) 23.12.19 Quit tracktheripper (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.12.24 Quit tracktheripper1 (Client Quit) 23.12.36 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB3A9EF.ipt.aol.com) 23.12.41 # dam this modem 23.26.32 Nick Snorlax is now known as Snorlax|ZzZ (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 23.26.50 Quit edx () 23.32.56 Quit random1 ("ChatZilla 0.8.13c [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3b; MultiZilla v1.1.33 (b)) Gecko/20030210]") 23.47.19 Quit TBoy ()