--- Log for 06.03.103 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 9 days and 13 hours ago 00.00.08 # hi 00.00.18 # you boxrocker 00.00.32 # * TBoy giggles 00.00.55 # just tryin out the irc client on trillie 00.01.41 # anything new or cool happened 00.02.28 # * Bagder knows nothing new 00.02.46 # well 00.03.19 # will we be seeing some inside pictures of the FM 00.03.58 # from Linus that is 00.04.13 # he said he'd take photos of it 00.04.33 # was that a question or a statement 00.04.47 # * TBoy is curious 00.04.52 # that's a statement, he told me he'd do it 00.04.57 # ok good 00.05.35 # so how far is v2.0 00.06.12 # beyond the corner 00.07.26 # how fast are you traveling, how long will it take you guys,approximatly, to get around the corner 00.07.40 # I won't guess 00.08.42 # ok well 00.08.50 # 2.0 is sort of here in the cvs builds .. 00.08.57 # enjoy that for the time being 00.09.02 # I know 00.09.34 # I was about to say that 00.10.17 # and even the very day we release 2.0, the daily will have more features and work better :-) 00.11.03 # so has joaquim, cut his build in peaces for you/us 00.11.17 # nope 00.11.39 # uh 00.11.50 # my status bar is gone in my recorder sim build... 00.12.18 # * TBoy is gettin tired 00.12.29 # * Bagder is a sorry person and withdraws his last statement 00.12.55 # so I think I'll hit the stables 00.13.00 # see ya tomorrow 00.13.17 # see ya 00.13.23 # and hopefully I will finally recieve my first archos 00.13.27 # yeah 00.13.41 # Thanks for the help, Badger. Gotta run... 00.13.44 Quit bronson ("Client Exiting") 00.13.55 # bye 00.13.56 Part TBoy 00.18.11 # FAQ updated to be a little more stupid ppl correct 00.22.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.23.48 Part Norrin 00.23.48 Quit Josh_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.24.27 # I ran a spell check on it ;-) 00.26.10 # see ya 00.26.13 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 00.39.17 Quit Zagor ("Client Exiting") 00.49.02 Quit JorisH ("Leaving") 01.10.38 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 01.26.33 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-210-121.bct.bellsouth.net) 01.27.21 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB4C40A.ipt.aol.com) 01.27.59 # Hello 01.28.00 # all 01.28.06 # yo 01.28.11 # hey Linus 01.28.14 # how are ya? 01.28.25 # tired 01.28.30 # awwwwww 01.28.44 # go to bed then 01.28.46 # ! 01.29.15 # don't feel like it 01.29.21 # heehee 01.29.51 # well get version 2.0 out soon :-) 01.30.10 # working on it 01.30.25 # :) 01.30.42 # <---- wonderes if there will be a version 3 in the future after version 2 01.31.05 # version 3 usually comes after version 2 01.31.13 # :) 01.31.44 # Couldnt the character cells on the Player be Inverted like the entire screen on the Recorder? 01.32.01 # as fas as i know, no 01.32.18 # well they are dot-matrix, character cells 01.34.00 # * LinusN reads the data sheets 01.39.19 # i can't find anything about lcd invert in those sheets 01.40.58 # lol just wondered 01.43.40 # It must be hard navigating your way round on the Player with that crap LCD 01.45.17 # indeed 01.45.46 Join TrueDis_work [0] (~truedis@dhcp-132-177.nac.uci.edu) 01.48.09 # Its just that all there is, is 2 x lines of 11 character cells that are huge, How the hell do they show ID3 tags? 01.48.28 # scrolling 01.48.56 # yea but there is a limit on the Archos firmware that only allows 32 characters? 01.49.11 # i'm talking about rockbox 01.49.17 # oh right 01.49.20 # fair enough 01.50.25 # I wonder what made Archos radically re-design the screen for the Recorder, which is obviously much better being entirely dot-matric 01.50.27 # matrix 01.51.16 # i guess all the reasons you just mentioned 01.51.47 # hmm posibbily 01.52.10 # Can Rockbox read .doc files as well as .txt files? 01.52.14 # i just created my first recording with Xing-header 01.52.25 # whats Xing-header? 01.52.28 # tracktheripper: .doc-files? Word-files? Of course not! 01.52.36 # why not? 01.52.52 # it's a huge, evil, proprietary format 01.52.58 # oh ok 01.53.04 # is .txt just plain ASCII 01.53.13 # and why? it's an mp3 player! :-) 01.53.22 # grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 01.53.23 # ascii is easy 01.53.23 # lol 01.53.31 # ((gives Linus a slap)) 01.53.38 # ouch 01.53.46 # heehee :) 01.54.01 # xing-header==vbr header 01.54.24 # ohhhhhh 01.54.46 # What about adding individual songs to playlist? 01.55.04 # some day someone might write some code for it 01.55.35 # lol 01.55.51 # Linus no-one will let me forget that request I sent last year!! 01.56.25 # fm radio on plain recorders? 01.56.33 # I never sent that!!! 01.57.10 # lol... 01.57.25 # it was the "Auto Voice Transcribe" 01.57.26 # heehee 01.57.29 # ah 01.57.46 # No-one lets me forget that 01.58.12 # i do, i didn't even remember it myself :-) 01.58.23 # lol 01.58.30 # :) 01.58.51 # well there is a way you can make a playlist of individual songs in Rockbox 01.58.59 # queeing 01.59.04 # queueing rather 01.59.09 # but I wanna save em as playlists :) 01.59.22 # ILL tell you how to do that Jet 01.59.29 # you can save as playlist 01.59.45 # how? 01.59.52 # i was wondering about the resume in 1.4 and its status in 2.0 02.00.02 # TrueDis_work: what about it? 02.00.05 # when i resume in 1.4 it usually isn't at exactly the spot where it turned it off 02.00.14 # player? 02.00.15 # Jet8100 if you queue up some songs then rename the QUEUE_FILE to myplaylist.m3u 02.00.18 # it's usually off by a few seconds 02.00.18 # yeah, player 02.00.22 # aaah track! 02.00.23 # smart! 02.00.27 # i would assume wherever the disk last read 02.00.32 # TrueDis_work: pause before you stop 02.00.41 # pause, then shut off 02.00.46 # thanks :-) 02.00.46 # the only drawback is that the playlist is saved in the .rockbox folder 02.00.53 # true 02.00.57 # but 02.01.07 # on your PC you can move it and playlist files will still work right? 02.01.12 # yea 02.01.17 # TrueDis_work: remember to let the drive spin up and save the position before you turn off 02.01.32 # or you can boot ino the Archos firmware, make the playlist there then come back to Rockbox 02.02.01 # ok, so pausing saves the position? 02.02.09 # yes 02.02.25 # otherwise it's only saved when the drive spins up 02.02.26 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 02.02.35 # to read more mp3 data 02.04.01 # awesome 02.04.06 # thanks much LinusN 02.04.10 # yq 02.04.12 # yw 02.04.40 Part TrueDis_work ("I like core dumps") 02.07.08 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.44.197) 02.16.14 # documentation looks good :) 02.19.53 # looks like real documentation! wow! :-) 02.20.12 # hehehe 02.20.22 # needs work/help.. but its a great start 02.22.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.21.34 Join Guest [0] (jirc@Bd7b6.pppool.de) 03.21.55 # hello any body there ??? 03.22.00 # hi 03.22.08 # ok hi 03.22.42 # i have made several changes on my rockbox copy 03.23.44 # can give me a small tip where i have to search to change the queue function in 03.24.15 # what do you want to change? 03.24.42 # this way that the current playlist stays in the dir where the last queue is made ??? 03.25.27 # understood??? 03.26.13 # i get it 03.26.40 # look in apps/playlist.c and apps/tree.c 03.27.32 # i was there, but this ithink is a little bit covered 03.30.43 # the reason that it feels "covered" is that it isn't easily implemented 03.31.27 # at least not if i remember it correctly 03.33.57 # ok if you don't see it now , may be i try the maillist ... 03.35.13 # there is a function called set_current_file() 03.36.27 # look in wps.c to see how it is used 03.37.13 # ok i try 03.43.37 # wait, you meant the function for setting cur dir for entering dir mode from wps 03.44.36 # i meant if i play a file and queue a file from another dir then i prefer that the jb 03.45.02 # continues there when the queue is over 03.45.28 # aha, you mean continues to play the next file after the last queued file? 03.45.33 Join jzoss [0] (jzoss@cs6711155-229.satx.rr.com) 03.45.47 # yes 03.46.22 # aha 03.47.29 # well, look in tree.c line #1096 or something 03.47.55 # build_playlist() combined with play_list 03.50.42 # case TREE_ATTR_MPA .....? 03.50.47 # yup 03.51.08 # it builds a playlist from the current position of the dir browser 03.51.40 # what's with ON+PLAY 03.51.46 # ? 03.52.56 # you pointed to a line where entire playlists wher played 03.53.22 # yes, build from the current dir 03.53.26 # built 03.53.32 # build_playlist() 03.53.52 # creates a playlist with the contents of the current dir 03.54.12 # don't ment that wait ... 03.54.33 # i mean playing in one dir then press ON then go to a new dir then press ... 03.54.43 # i know 03.54.48 # ON + PLAY for queue 03.55.05 # are you starting to understand why i said that this wasn't easily implemented? 03.55.22 # we have no functions for what you want to accomplish 03.55.24 # yes 03.55.32 # you'll have to write them yourself 03.55.59 # wait, what i want is implemented 03.56.23 # give me a last try to explain 03.56.35 # once again 03.57.01 # you want the playback to continue with the file after the one that was played last in the queue 03.57.22 # regardless of where the dir browser is 03.58.51 # i simply want that after using on+play - queuing the current play dir is the new selected dir 03.59.14 # "selected dir"? 03.59.39 # we don't queue dirs, we queue files 04.00.43 # while playing pressing on then go to a new dir then press on 04.01.20 # + play to quere a new file in that dir 04.02.06 # then if that file is played i want to have played the file in that dir 04.02.56 # So, like the "directory follows playlist" option? 04.03.10 # Only, "directory follows queueing, THEN follows playlist"? 04.04.11 # ok explain it for you jzoss 04.04.43 # I've been "listening" to your explanation... 04.06.39 # whats all about how the jukebox chooses its next song after a queue (on+play..) is over 04.07.08 # that's what i've been saying the whole time 04.07.19 # yup 04.07.33 # you want to continue playing the rest of the files in the same dir as the last queued song, right? 04.07.46 # maybe its a littlebit late in germany 4:00 04.07.55 # here in sweden too 04.08.04 # ok ok YES 04.08.43 # now its right 04.09.16 # so you need to rebuild the playlist in memory, because the current playlist is built from a different dir 04.09.38 # hence, build_playlist() and play_list() are your friends 04.09.54 # now i understand 04.10.09 # but build_playlist() won't help you, since it scans the directiry currently being browsed 04.11.34 # so every time you queue a new file the hole rest of the playlist has to be rebuilded new 04.11.56 # In your scheme, yes. 04.12.03 # :-) 04.12.04 # no, only when the last file has been played in the queue 04.12.15 # Right...I was just gonna say that. =) 04.14.36 # so THANKS for support ;-) and a good night (morning) 04.14.42 # nite 04.14.48 # * LinusN is going to bed too 04.14.59 # ciao 04.15.05 Part LinusN 04.15.10 Quit Guest ("Leaving") 04.22.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.53.33 Join kuazo [0] (kuazo@pD9EB3734.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.53.38 # hoi 04.53.46 # hello =) 04.54.01 # how are u :-) 04.54.09 # just fine, thx 04.55.11 # i need some remote control for the jukebox 04.55.22 # do u know how to build it...lol 04.57.05 # i know thats no question dealing with the rockbox, but i dont know any other jukebox freaks :-P 05.04.12 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.44.197) 05.04.12 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.31.06 # is the rockbox firmware able to record with the jukebox right now? 05.32.28 # yes 05.32.42 # wow ... 05.32.55 # since? 05.33.55 # I dunno. Daily builds (not 1.4), but it works 05.34.12 # I'm assuming you mean recording on a Jukebox-recorder, not a Jukebox-player (or studio). =) 05.34.30 # sure :o) 05.35.01 # the normal fireware does not have this feature u mean 05.35.19 # i need to install the daily updates? *confused* 05.35.33 # well, you can download either an "official" 1.4 version (which does not support recording, I don't think) 05.35.50 # Or you can download the latest-and-greatest build ("daily build") created every day. 05.36.01 # Which has more features, but (perhaps) more bugs 05.36.30 # i c ! i thought the daily building only includes some features 05.36.40 # but its a bundle of all new... 05.36.42 # yup. 05.37.19 # i didnt know that ... iam a fool :o) 05.37.21 # If you look under "patches", each patch contains only a single feature. But once that gets integrated into the main build, then the "daily builds" contain all the latest functionality 05.37.27 # s'all good. We all learn as we go 05.38.16 # :o) 05.39.34 # and whats about some features i dont like 05.39.57 # for example i dont want screensavers or games :o) 05.40.18 # If you compile from source, there are configurable options not to include Demos or Games 05.40.47 # But everything else you pretty much have to take. Most features are configurable, though. 05.40.53 # iam just a stupid gfxer and flasher :o( 05.41.04 # damn :o) 05.41.44 # You could try to offer some input on how to improve Rockbox graphics... it might be welcomed. Some people like Graphic UI, some like Text UI. 05.42.53 # iam not a coder, sorry 05.43.13 # the only source i can deal with is html...lol 05.45.23 # u c ? 05.45.26 # :o) 05.45.27 # yup 05.45.38 # but i like your work as well 05.45.44 # ?? 05.45.48 # its briliant 05.46.03 # ehm, the work of the rockbox team 05.46.53 # Indeed. I haven't contributed anything, but some of the other guys have done some great work. =) 05.47.29 # i even dont know :o) 05.47.37 # however, its phat 05.48.13 # i luv my jukebox 05.48.16 # hrhr 05.55.26 # damn 05.55.33 # ?? 05.55.35 # this version is phat :o) 05.55.41 # lol 05.56.21 # thats just fucking good work !!! 05.56.41 # the db scale at the record mode 05.56.43 # hrhr ... 05.57.18 # i alway record on party u have to know :o) 05.59.03 # its about 100 to 120 db there and this option is the thing i needed all the time 06.02.11 # ehm, the daily version only supports english, well? 06.03.38 # No 06.03.52 # There should be .lang files floating around somewhere 06.04.10 # If you "PLAY" one, it'll switch to that language 06.04.26 # But you may need to compile-from-src to get those .lang files. 06.04.27 # sure? 06.04.37 # hm...damn :o) 06.04.44 # Pretty sure. But I only use English, so I can't help you so much. sorry 06.04.58 # i need a german one 06.05.50 # goto rockbox.haxx.se/lang and see if that'll work for you 06.05.57 # You need the .lng, not .lang file 06.06.29 # so i play the file an the language will be added 06.06.42 # don't see any german though. :( 06.07.20 # i have to start it every time i reboot the jukebox 06.07.23 # :o( 06.07.50 # try to put the .lang file in a /.rockbox directory. Sometimes, things need to be in there to be "remembered" between reboots 06.08.27 # yeah 06.08.34 # i just try it 06.09.27 # may i ask u where are u from? 06.09.39 # San Antonio, Texas, USA. =) 06.09.52 # hrhr 06.10.08 # what is "hrhr" you keep saying? 06.10.15 # <- dresden , sachsen, german 06.10.34 # Never been there. Someday, though. =) 06.10.39 # hrhr, just say it ... thats a kind of laughing 06.10.47 # that's what I figured. Just checking 06.11.09 # In case it really means "you're an idiot" (not that you'd tell me if that *was* the translation. hehe) 06.11.12 # ya, if you come to germany then dresden :-P 06.12.11 # no it just means that feel amused about 06.12.28 # what english, damn :o) 06.12.30 # sorry!!! 06.12.31 # I'm just joking with you. Don't worry. 06.12.55 # u make a fool of me, thanks :-P 06.13.04 # nonono... 06.14.00 # ehm 06.14.08 # i copied the file in the root dir 06.14.15 # but, its not there...lol 06.14.28 # where did you copy it to? 06.14.37 # the root dir 06.15.15 # so: "copy myfile.lang /myfile.lang" ?? 06.15.16 # any dir ... just G:/ 06.15.22 # right 06.15.27 # strange 06.15.47 # technic that rulez 06.16.00 # it this the right spelling? :o) 06.16.10 # of what? 06.16.30 # forget it 06.16.34 # sorry 06.17.40 # i ll try it onces more 06.20.49 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev121.cable.mindspring.com) 06.20.55 # jzoss: you here? 06.21.00 # yup 06.21.02 # _seb_: you here? 06.21.12 # jzoss: I have notices something with your patch. 06.21.38 # jzoss: the red hard drive light keeps blinking on and off the entire time I am on the wps screen (hard drive reading?) 06.21.48 # jzoss: and my batteries die quick! 06.21.49 # yah, I noticed that too. 06.21.53 # Not sure why. 06.22.00 # Wasn't sure if it was CVS or my patch. 06.22.10 # I think it is your patch. 06.22.16 # sigh. That's bad 06.22.20 # I had not noticed that yesterday. 06.22.25 # (with the CVS) 06.22.33 # I'll check CVS now to see. 06.22.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.23.00 # it is bad because the batteries die very quickly. 06.23.05 # yes 06.24.22 # brb 06.24.50 # i got it working 06.25.03 # good 06.25.22 # u have to change the file filter 06.25.27 # to see the file...lol 06.26.07 # yup 06.26.09 # iam i bit confused 06.26.24 # because there is no file option 06.26.44 # i listen to music and want to explore other dirs 06.28.02 # while plauing, to switch from WPS (filename/progressbar) screen to file-view, press ON. And press ON again to get back to WPS view from dir view 06.29.10 # oki 06.30.12 # one more question ... where is the option to delete files 06.30.57 # (in dir view), press ON+PLAY at the same time 06.31.50 # lol :o) 06.31.51 # ok 06.35.44 # jzoss: how is the other patch you are working on coming along? 06.36.00 # pretty well. The format-parser is done. Just doing the load/save settings code 06.36.13 # But now I'm back on fixing the 1st patch. The disk-read error is ugly 06.36.32 # As a workaround, if the WPS is *NOT* showing, you don't get that constant disk spin-up. Go figure. 06.41.12 # just a stupid question of a user like me :o) ... why cant i delete a whole dir full of files? 06.41.28 # jzoss: I know. 06.41.42 # because that requires special coding which is not in place now. Can't delete dirs or recursively delete files in a dir 06.41.53 # I was on the bus earlier and the batteries were dying so quickly, that I had to put it in browser mode. 06.42.38 # ok, it was just a question :o) 06.43.01 # Yah, it's not usable like that. But I don't know what I changed that would affect that.. Hmmm. 06.44.29 # managing and deleting files is far better via pc 06.44.34 # yes 06.44.41 # but it was just a question :o) 06.44.44 # well, whenever you get around to finishing/fixing/updating the patches it would be great if you could add them to the patch tracker on sourceforge. I am heading out of the country for a week and would love them on the jukebox. 06.44.49 # (leaving friday night) 06.45.09 # elinenbe: that's the plan. Enjoy your trip! 06.45.17 # sounds grrat! 06.45.26 # great! 06.45.51 # does the rockbox also improve the sound quality? 06.45.52 # hmm... 06.46.01 # kuazo: in some respects. 06.47.13 # jzoss, i found a reason for deleting whole dirs via jukebox 06.47.43 # if i connect the jukebox to my pc 06.47.53 # there are no files under the Recycled dir 06.48.17 # right. 06.48.26 # but there are about 2 gig mp3s in it :o( 06.48.35 # that suckz :-P 06.49.28 # ?? No files = 2gig ?? 06.50.10 # some day my stupid windows fixed some problems on the jukebox 06.50.29 # do u know what i mean 06.50.50 # i dont know the right word in english, its like a chkdsk 06.50.55 # check disk :o) 06.50.57 # right 06.51.22 # so there's 2gigs of files you can't delete under Windows? 06.51.23 # maby thats the reason for this shit, i dont really know 06.51.28 # right 06.51.43 # thats a problem :o) 06.52.11 # all of them are djsets, so its only about 20 07.04.28 # i gonna need some manuel for button / function details 07.06.04 # someone's working on a manual. It should be ready for the 2.0 release "just around the corner". ;) 07.06.18 # kuazo: check out the site rockbox.haxx.sew 07.06.23 # rockbox.haxx.se 07.06.29 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/ 07.06.56 # elinenbe... I tracked the WPS bug down to the cfg-loading code. 07.07.05 # Which is convenient, since I'm rewriting that anyway. =) 07.07.22 #