--- Log for 07.03.103 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 10 days and 14 hours ago 00.23.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.35.42 Quit Zagor|away ("Client Exiting") 00.57.10 Join random1 [0] (~chatzilla@ak.nlc.com) 01.17.22 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB487AB.ipt.aol.com) 01.17.31 # hiiiiiii 01.20.54 # hiya, track 01.24.20 # how u doing Jzoss? 01.24.22 # didnt see u here :) 01.24.25 # sorry! 01.24.34 # I wasn't there (here?) for a while. =) 01.24.48 # lol 01.25.03 # Someone sent a dupe of my request "Reshuffle when playlist repeats" 01.25.29 # whoops! There's a lot of requests, so sometimes it's easy to overlook something. =) 01.25.38 # heehee:) 01.26.59 # wheres your ID3 tag editor jzoss? 01.27.09 # It's in the patch section 01.27.25 # when is it gonna be inplementied? 01.27.27 # :) 01.27.31 # please? 01.27.36 # The one that's up there is buggy, though. If you run that version, there is near constant disk-access in WPS (batteries die FAST) 01.27.50 # I'll post a debugged-updated patch of that tonight 01.28.01 # Along with a custom-recording-filename patch 01.28.25 # I have no control over when patches get accepted. And the powers-that-be are quite busy lately. (It's a pretty hefty patch, too) 01.28.44 # ohhhhhhhhh 01.28.47 # :-( 01.29.00 # i must have an ID3 tag editor soon, pretty please? 01.29.14 # Why don't you patch in the version yourself? 01.29.35 # because I don't have a clue how to use Gnush or Cygwin 01.29.39 # ive given up on those 01.30.02 # oh, well, if you want, I can email you a patched version for whatever you're running (Player/Recorder) 01.30.21 # i have a Recorder 01.30.33 # ill give u my email address in private 01.31.33 # games+demos, I assume, right? 01.31.50 # yea I have a Jukebox Recorder 10 01.32.43 # did u get my email addy? 01.32.48 # yah, thx 01.32.59 # cool ;-) 01.34.42 # can anyone answer a rolo question?: i've read the faq but am not clear how to boot to archos firmware when running under rockbox.. 01.34.56 # 2 ways: 01.35.10 # rename your rockbox firmware (to something other than ajbrec.ajz) and reboot 01.35.14 # or 01.36.11 # Jzoss what he could is rename the Archos ajbrec.ajz to something like Archos.ajz and boot that under Rockbox 01.36.12 # download (from archos' website) some version of the archos firmware. Copy that to your rockbox drive as something other than ajbrec.ajz (like: archosFW.ajz). When you reboot, it'll boot rockbox. From there, you can "PLAY" the archos firmware to get into archos-land. 01.36.55 # Follow that, random1? 01.36.58 # thank you #2 option sounds good 01.37.06 # yes, it is by far preferrable 01.37.41 # whats that? My methodn? 01.43.05 # tracktheripper is bore 01.43.06 # bored 01.43.13 # boring? ;) j/k 01.43.46 # wheres that Mr Zagor when you need him? 01.44.29 # lol 01.44.34 # Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 01.45.29 # Why? You're bored, so you wanna pester Zagor? That's not very nice... 01.46.12 # lol. I'm just teasin you, track. Don't be mad! ;) 01.46.42 # jzoss, can you warmstart from archosfw->rockbox or do you have to power cycle? 01.46.53 # im never mad!! 01.47.00 # Powercycle 01.47.04 # I never pester Zagor or anyone! 01.47.25 # Archos doesn't have the "rolo" feature; they only check at bootup for ajbrec.ajz and load that. 01.47.59 # Jzoss thanks for ur email 01.48.02 # tracktheripper: maybe that's why you're bored!? You should try being mad or pestering people. ;) just don't tell them I said that. 01.48.03 # just about to load........ 01.48.14 # No prob, track. Hope it doesn't erase your jukebox. lol 01.48.45 # i have the entire Jukebox backed up so no worries 01.49.13 # me too. rsync (and the like) are my friends 01.50.36 # Jzoss I have the entire JB structure backed up on my PC so its no problem 01.51.30 # JZOSS you are my mate for life :) 01.51.57 # hehe. thx, but wait till you get your first crash before being too complimentary. ;) 01.52.18 # lol 01.52.21 # still testing :) 01.52.49 # Seems to work great :) 01.53.53 # It works great Jzoss 01.54.02 # you have made me unbelievably happy :) 01.54.11 # good deal. I appreciate you volunteering to test. 01.54.30 # Ive tested the MP3 in Windows Media Player and it read it fine :) 01.56.59 # the tags work when recording as well :-) 01.57.12 # good. 01.57.53 # All you have to implement is a way to record to a directory other than the root, and to create and rename and delete folders 01.58.17 # You already can record to non-root directories (with the patch I sent you) 01.58.38 # The folder rename/create/delete I haven't done, though. 01.58.52 # oh right so i navagate to the dircetory first before recording? 01.59.29 # fileFmt: "/recordings/%ty_%tm_%td_(%mi)" will put all recordings in the /recordings directory 01.59.58 # Or you can do non-absolute path "testRec.mp3" (note no leading slash at front) to record in your current dir 01.59.59 # oh right 02.00.35 # the ID3 tag is what I really wanted 02.00.39 # your work is superb Jzoss 02.00.42 # I mean it :-) 02.00.58 # heh. We'll see what Zagor says. I just used bits & pieces they've already put together 02.01.12 # just twist his arm 02.01.13 # :) 02.01.50 # I'm not much of a pester-er. I'm still running a P200MHz @ work, because I won't pester anyone to upgrade me. =) 02.03.44 # yea Jzoss with reference to folder management, ill just create a folder in Windows called Recordings and do all my recordings there 02.03.56 # that's what I plan on doing 02.04.20 # the ID3 tag is really handy Jzoss 02.04.55 # Yah, I always find broken ones when I'm playing things and then forget which ones when I get back to my PC. 02.05.00 # yea 02.05.18 # its much easier to do it on the fly than having to go into Musicmatch or whatever 02.06.14 # ive just named a duff ID3 tag to perfection thanks to you Jzoss 02.10.41 # yea Jzoss ive named a number of ID3's and ive had No problems 02.11.05 # good deal. Make sure and lemme know if you find anything. Sometimes the intermittent things are hardest to track down. 02.11.18 # well ive had no problems 02.11.31 # its actually better than the poor ID3 tag editor in Musicmatch 02.23.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.24.03 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 03.18.13 Quit adi|home (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.28.59 Join IRCMonkey5463264 [0] (~chatzilla@nat-pri-230-ppp.suffolk.lib.ny.us) 03.31.38 Quit IRCMonkey5463264 (Client Quit) 04.02.18 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@user-0cev10r.cable.mindspring.com) 04.02.26 # jzoss: hello! 04.02.29 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cev10r.cable.mindspring.com) 04.23.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.27.16 # hiya 04.28.03 # HI! 04.28.21 # found the bug (Zagor helped). =) I'm making new patches now. 04.28.24 # I was looking at your code today and I can't seem to figure out where the bug is... 04.28.26 # oh! 04.28.28 # great! 04.28.39 # I am excited to try out the new patches! =) 04.28.40 # Custom rec format done, too. That patch is also in the works as we speak 04.28.46 # wonderful! 04.29.01 # you can be sure I will tell you where your errors are =) 04.29.23 # good. 04.30.03 # tracktheripper wanted to test (and can't compile), so I emailed him a patched .ajz. So hopefully he'll help ferret stuff out too. 04.30.13 # just tell me when the patches are up on sourceforge. 04.30.23 # in 30 min or so 04.30.27 # he can't compile becasue he is lazy! 04.30.45 # everything for rockbox is free and easy to set up. 04.30.49 # okay, so s/can't/won't =) 04.31.08 # (of course I have yet to set up compiling the simulator on windows!) 04.31.15 # I couldn't make it (ui-sim) work under cygwin, so I'm doing linux 04.31.18 # hehe... lol 04.31.43 # yeah -- I have never gotten the sim to work under windows -- I think you need MSVC. 04.31.56 # if you want to compile the windows version. 04.37.07 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-141.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 04.37.21 # adi|home: you get home late tonight 04.37.37 # adi|home: what did you end up doing with those RENT tickets? 04.40.29 # used them :) 04.40.40 # good show... managed to get back just before the blizzard basically 04.40.45 # the gf decided to come up :) 04.40.56 # ive been home all day.. my machine has been on the fritz 04.43.21 # oh. 04.43.23 # that sucks. 04.43.29 # I liked RENT too. 04.48.08 # \o/ 04.48.15 # a have a simulator to play with ;) 04.48.59 # MT: nice. 04.49.07 # MT: what did you compile it under? 04.49.13 # linux 04.49.31 # i had to start X, my router box didnt like that :) 04.49.33 # MT: blah... I am looking for someone who has compiled the simulator under cygwin. 04.54.06 Quit adi|home (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.23.20 # jzoss: you still around? 05.23.24 Nick secretagentseb is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 05.23.32 # yup 05.23.44 # how is the patch coming? 05.23.50 # they're both done 05.24.02 # I'm trying to figure out how to apply them both sequentially 05.24.06 # oohhh.. are you putting them up now? 05.24.08 # oh. 05.24.12 # They work independently, but not together (too much coupling) 05.24.21 # So I may also post a combined patch.... 05.24.29 # what do you mean by that? do you have two source trees? 05.24.53 # nope. one source tree, but zagor wanted the two features posted as separate patches 05.25.07 # oh. 05.25.10 # So I (temporarily) broke out to 2 source trees and created a patch for each 05.27.37 # jzoss: oh.. that is quite a pain. 05.27.43 # yup. 05.27.59 # jzoss: what did zagor say about the change that they will make the official tree? 05.28.12 # jzoss: i think they will -- they add some great functionality 05.28.16 # nah. They've been too busy to look at the patches, far as I know... 05.29.23 # apple just patented the trash! : http://patimg2.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=D0470860&homeurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Parser%3FSect1%3DPTO1%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526d%3DPALL%2526p%3D1%2526u%3D%2Fnetahtml%2Fsrchnum.htm%2526r%3D1%2526f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526s1%3DD470,860.WKU.%2526OS%3DPN%2FD470,860%2526RS%3DPN%2FD470,860&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=908BC612624B 05.29.42 # yah, I saw that on Slashdot a while ago 05.30.00 # that is incredible. 05.30.25 # well, windows did it for the Recycle Bin... {shrug} Software patents are so screwed up. 05.30.33 # no kidding. 05.30.55 # I am going to pattent rand(); 05.31.07 # s/pattent/patent 05.31.13 # oooh, ooh... I get to patent 1+1!!!! ;) 05.31.49 # damnit, then I am patenting i=1; (the process of setting a variable to 1) 05.32.14 # Arrr. I can't get very far with 1+1 if I can't store it somewhere. 05.32.19 # ha! 05.33.14 # reminds me of the old one-upmanship games as a kid: "I have 10", "but I have 20", "oh yeah? i have infinity", "I have infinity plus ONE!" 05.33.15 # lol 05.35.06 # well, I have "infinity + infinity" =) 05.35.19 # did you implement any of my ideas? 05.35.34 # what _was_ the bug with the code? 05.35.37 # I always thought the biggest number was a "google". It's like writing a one followed by a million zeros 05.35.56 # it's googol :) 05.36.01 # right 05.36.06 # and then there is always googol^googol 05.36.38 # woah. That blows my mind. ;) 05.38.52 # check the EditID3 patch -- updates there. 05.39.04 # custom Rec Fmt going up in a sec 05.39.07 # okay -- sounds good. 05.39.13 # I should get an email in a second. 05.42.57 Join Nikkelitous [0] (~jirc@tcsndslgw8PoolA121.tcsn.uswest.net) 05.44.07 # Hello 05.44.46 # hiya 05.47.01 # How goes it? 05.47.34 # I'm sick. :( My nose is running like a faucet. Bleh. 05.47.59 # jzoss: sorry to hear that. 05.48.26 # s'all good. I took today off from work. Slept alot, sniffled alot, drank alot of soup. =) 05.48.33 # It only helped a little, though. ;) 05.55.19 # I say you should take off another day! program rockbox some =) 05.55.27 # heh 05.55.38 # unfortunately, there's (real) work to be done. =) 06.00.39 # real work... schmeal work 06.02.54 # jzoss: did you implement anything new in the ID3 patch? 06.03.09 # (edit ID3 tags) 06.05.00 # yah, I added the additional menu functionality you talked about 06.05.11 # oh, sounds great! 06.05.16 # And also default empty year tags to current year when editing 06.05.35 # awesome! I am waiting to patch my code with the "dual patch" 06.05.53 # The only problem is, there's no easy way to undo that set-to-current-year. So if you start to edit, and change your mind, the year tag will be left as current year (rather than empty) 06.06.36 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-151.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 06.06.42 # oh -- I see. yeah. 06.06.53 # how couldyou go about clearing the year? 06.07.04 # I don't think that is that big of an issue. 06.07.40 # anyway... I'm just feeling worser by the minute, so I'm gonna go try to sleep it off. 06.07.45 # Talk to ya tomorrow 06.07.50 # see ya. 06.07.53 # hope you feel better 06.07.56 # thx 06.08.00 Quit jzoss ("[BX] Bob Barker uses BitchX. Have your BitchX spayed or neutered.") 06.10.24 # I know that Rockbox isn't going to be ported to the Multimedia Jukebox but I wonder how difficult it would actually be to port. 06.10.36 # Does anyone know how difficult it would be to port. 06.10.43 # Nikkelitous: not much is known about the MM jukebox 06.10.57 # Nikkelitous: also, the system of lading the firmware is much different in the MM 06.11.41 # Nikkelitous: if archos were to give out the specs of the MM, then it could be proted in ti's current state rather easily. but to take care of all the new hardware would take quite a while 06.11.55 # Yeah. I could understand that could be difficult. I'm wondering if it would be better to take rockbox and port it or if it would be better to start from scratch. 06.11.57 # Nikkelitous: currently work is being done on the FM recorder. 06.13.05 # Is that a field that hasn't been researched yet? 06.13.24 # Or has someone actually looked into the possibility of porting? 06.14.46 # Nikkelitous: it has been researched a litle, and it was determined that there are some "walls" that would first need to be gotten over. 06.15.48 # Are there any website or white papers that list those walls? 06.15.55 # Nikkelitous: nope. 06.16.14 # Nikkelitous: the firwares of the recorder/player/fm and mm are all scrabled (encoded a littl) 06.16.32 # and so far the mm encryption has not been figured out. 06.16.41 # Ahh. 06.16.52 # That is a problem. 06.17.52 # Is there any unified effort behind figuring out the MM? 06.18.20 # I haven't been able to find any and thought it might be best to ask the experts. 06.18.41 # Nikkelitous: not currently 06.19.20 # Ahh 06.19.33 # okay -- I am heading to sleep. g'night 06.19.38 Nick elinenbe is now known as elinenbe|sleep (trilluser@user-0cev10r.cable.mindspring.com) 06.19.40 # Goodnight. 06.20.06 # I need to go to sleep too. Thanks for your help. 06.20.06 Quit Nikkelitous ("Leaving") 06.20.42 # its offical.. i hate usb 06.23.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.30.05 Quit adi|home (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.47.46 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB4C4.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.52.40 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-163.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 06.57.20 Quit edx () 07.43.16 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 07.45.04 Quit matsl (Client Quit) 07.45.35 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 08.11.55 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.23.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.39.01 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.39.17 # hi 08.39.30 # morning 08.45.31 Quit adi|home (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.46.10 # Howdy ho! 08.50.13 # * Bagder sighs 08.50.44 # vicious spams sent to all the curl-* mailing lists 08.50.47 # held by mailman 08.50.56 # so I need to go over and kill them one by one 08.51.08 # :O 08.51.10 # :( 08.52.11 # X-Spam-Because: line in the body matched regex "charset= *"(big5|euc-kr)"" 08.52.20 # :-) 08.53.38 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-9.216-194-23-163.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 08.56.30 # Isn't that evil? :) 08.56.57 # Evil is Goodness(tm) 09.00.33 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.01.21 # morning Z 09.02.16 Quit matsl () 09.02.56 # hi 09.02.59 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.03.07 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 09.07.18 # Z! :D 09.07.31 # * Bagder goes patch-applying 09.09.55 # Yay! 09.09.59 # * dwihno loves patches 09.18.56 Quit adi|home (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.24.14 # Bagder: the tree.c fix for deleting is not very good. he said he would post a better version. 09.24.51 # well, imho it is better than without it 09.24.56 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-11.216-194-24-255.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 09.25.50 # i disagree. today we only have a problem when deleting the last file in a dir. with that patch the cursor moves to the top *every* time you delete a file 09.25.51 # Zagor: this was an updated version 09.25.57 # nope 09.25.59 # ah, ok then 09.25.59 # it does not 09.26.43 # check this: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/rockbox/apps/tree.c.diff?r1=1.175&r2=1.176 09.28.52 # that's the old fix 09.28.59 # or? 09.29.09 # no, see the condition on the cursor move 09.29.15 # ah, ok. goodie 09.43.16 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.43.21 # hi all!!! 09.44.00 # hey bob 09.45.17 # a lot of UI improvement this days ? 09.46.02 # vertical bar... invert font to replace tiny arrow 09.46.12 # u thing can be used in 2.0 ? 09.46.35 # s/thing/think 09.47.07 # the problem with all these changes are that we don't receive proper patches for them 09.47.38 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 09.47.41 # hi 09.47.57 # team developement is not completly know by everybody 09.48.03 # hi amigo! 09.48.09 # hi bobTHC! 09.48.16 # development team?? 09.48.19 # what's that? 09.48.23 # ;) 09.49.06 # :) 09.51.35 # Zagor : have u have a discution with Joaquim Carvalho? 09.53.47 # only in the mailing list 09.53.48 # I've added a comment to his patch submission 10.05.00 # a good discution with him can be the solution 10.05.19 # solution for what? 10.05.19 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 10.06.03 # for a clean and good separate patch submission 10.06.24 # we've asked for that several times 10.07.51 # it's acomputing teacher, he can understand .... 10.08.33 # he's portuguese.. i can reach his house and "make him understand" ;) 10.08.38 # hahaha 10.08.39 # like italian mafia 10.09.18 # La comunidad es lo primero..... 10.11.54 # heh, I just sped up playlist loading about 3x 10.12.00 # kewl 10.12.05 # how silly of us 10.12.05 # hpw? 10.12.07 # how 10.12.21 # simply load the list into the mp3 buffer instead of a small dedicated buffer 10.12.31 # ah! 10.12.36 # hehe 10.12.39 # nothing is playing anyway 10.12.45 # even saves memory :) 10.12.50 # Schnueff: yup 10.13.04 # so what if I play a playlist while listening, do we stop it first now? 10.13.32 # yes 10.13.34 # with that fix, we must stop it, but do we now? 10.13.39 # ok 10.13.51 # I think now it only stops when the first file starts playing. 10.14.03 # right, that's what I thought too 10.14.08 # so the fix stops it half a second earlier or something :-) 10.14.25 # quite ok anyway, imho 10.14.30 # yeah 10.15.18 # I think we can skip the load/parse loop now :-) 10.15.26 # few playlists are >1.5 MB 10.15.50 # I think we should still keep it 10.15.57 # since it is there and works 10.16.17 # yeah, no big deal 10.16.29 # very long file and dir names and 100GB disks might reach 1.5MB ;-) 10.17.16 # ~157 characters in average and 10000 entries 10.17.48 # not that far off, then 10.17.59 # no 10.18.30 # :O 10.18.56 # how about we spend 10 of the saved 16 KB on bumping max playlist size to 15000 entries? 10.19.13 # uh that's only 12500 but anyway :-) 10.19.57 # I think 10000 is fine still 10.20.15 # with more people adding 60 gig disks, we will hit that limit soon 10.20.33 # hm, true 10.20.46 # ok, I'm for a raise 10.21.22 # you timed the new playlist loading? 10.22.35 # not really 10.23.03 # heh, so where's factor 3 coming from? :) 10.23.20 # i counted the seconds in my head. 10.23.29 # haha 10.23.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.23.33 # you can count? B) 10.23.54 # I did say "about 3x" :-) 10.29.05 # "We are alleging they have contaminated their Linux work with inappropriate knowledge from Unix," 10.29.16 # ? 10.29.23 # SCO sues IBM 10.29.28 # hah 10.29.31 # only 1 billion dollar 10.29.32 # good luck 10.30.07 # "inappropriate knowledge" is truly a nice term ;-) 10.30.19 # yeah. knowledge contamination is a big problem these days... 10.30.55 # they sure know how to make friends. the rambus of operating systems. :-) 10.31.18 # zagor.. regarding your playlist change... 10.31.25 # yeah? 10.31.30 # do we ever see wanting to read the playlist w/o playing it? 10.31.45 # possibly, but not with this code 10.31.47 # sure, but that would be a different function 10.31.51 # nods 10.31.59 # we want a playlist browser 10.32.00 # okay... just the first thing that came to mind... 10.32.03 # nods 10.32.25 # "IBM is affirmatively taking steps to destroy all value of Unix by improperly extracting and using the confidential and proprietary information it acquired from Unix and dumping that information into the open source community," 10.32.35 # regarding Joaquim.. id love to see his invert cursor patch... 10.32.44 # but god forbid he should break his stuff out.. 10.32.46 # * adi|home sighs 10.32.53 # yes 10.32.57 # any opinons on if we 1. like the idea of sliders? 10.33.03 # its not that quickly done for outsiders 10.33.08 # and 2. if we prefer vertical or horizontal? 10.33.27 # I'd like to see screenshots next to each other and compare 10.33.51 # adi|home: I like sliders, but I think I prefer the horizontal test screens that have been published. 10.34.33 # http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/graph_sound.png 10.34.34 # nods 10.34.39 # i _really_ like that one 10.34.46 # seems better 1. for text 10.34.54 # and 2. easier to scroll through... 10.35.39 # hmm 10.35.50 # http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/graph_sound_digital_sliders3.png 10.35.52 # I like that 10.35.53 # :-) 10.36.05 # me too 10.36.09 # me too 10.36.40 # hehe i was about to post that one 10.36.40 Quit MT (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.36.44 # Unfortunately, I can't show you the code :) 10.36.45 # so thats 4 votes for that :) 10.37.05 Join MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 10.37.24 # although.. having a half filed rectangle makes no sense to me.. 10.37.31 # it should either be empty or full 10.37.33 # yes, was thinking the same 10.38.09 # okay.. i need sleep.. 10.38.11 # nite lads 10.38.14 # * adi|home is away: zzzzzz 10.38.30 # night 10.43.46 # Bagder: great minds think alike :) 10.43.56 # :-) 10.50.22 # bbl 10.50.23 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 11.14.33 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 11.34.13 # quel, just thought you should know, my case is still up and rocking! :D 11.38.27 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB3E4C5.ipt.aol.com) 11.38.36 # morning... 11.41.21 # Yay! 11.41.22 # Hello! :D 11.41.26 # Are you happy today? 11.41.35 # Im over the moon at the moment 11.42.17 # you are? 11.42.21 # yes 11.42.22 # :) 11.42.29 # * dwihno does not believe in the lunar landing 11.42.35 # it's all a major hoax 11.42.47 # its a figure of speech you twat :) 11.44.00 # im very pleased because I have Jzoss's ID3 tag editor working 11.49.23 # heehee 11.54.42 # what id3 tag editor? 11.55.22 # a patch Jzoss applied for me and emailed me the appropriate ajbrec.ajz file 11.58.15 # next time you see Jzoss if you ask him very nicely he may send u the file 11.59.38 # nah, I need no id3 editor :) 12.00.04 # hey, once youve tried it its invaluable 12.00.16 # its actually better than one u find in Musicmatch or something likethat 12.01.15 # :O 12.02.19 # If you download MP3s directly to your Archos and they have bad ID3 tags its easier to edit them on-the-fly than having to plug in the USB cable, load up Musicmatch or the like and correct them there 12.08.33 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 12.23.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.30.36 Part bobTHC 12.30.36 Quit elinenbe|sleep (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.57.13 # how lovely. old versions of IE don't understand the @media css tag. fine. but they interpret everything inside it anyway! 12.57.35 # * Zagor hates MS programmers 13.13.19 Join _MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 13.24.37 Quit MT (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.24.37 Nick _MT is now known as MT (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 13.34.43 Quit matsl () 13.36.20 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 14.23.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.36.01 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.36.37 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.44.223) 14.45.06 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@user-0cev10r.cable.mindspring.com) 14.51.10 Quit quel|out (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.51.11 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 14.54.02 Part Zagor 14.54.41 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 14.54.45 Join TBoy [0] (~TBoy@pD9E00F12.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.55.10 # hi 14.55.52 # I just recieved my FM 14.56.13 # and I don't know how to get it to run with Rockbox 14.56.35 # * TBoy thinks he's a n00b 14.58.00 # hello 15.04.44 # hang on... 15.05.06 # Mail on the list 15.05.11 # Regarding writing to CFG 15.05.13 # Yay! :D 15.05.34 # so can some1 tell me how to install it on my FM 15.05.41 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 15.06.33 # connect the FM, get a build, install it in the root of the device 15.06.42 # yeah I did that 15.06.55 # and when it boots nothing happens 15.07.24 # I mean its starts up the old archos firmware 15.07.32 # TBoy: how did you install rockbox?` 15.07.35 # did u get a daily build? 15.07.59 # from http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml ? 15.08.07 # I first downloaded v1.4 15.08.14 # and then got a daily build 15.08.15 # 1.4 is a no-do 15.08.19 # daily build = yay 15.08.28 # like http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-fmrecorder/ajbrec.ajz ? 15.08.39 # 1.4 doesn't work with fm 15.08.50 # fm was hardly even released when 1.4 was released :-) 15.09.00 # oppss 15.10.09 # ok its working 15.10.13 # thx guys 15.12.09 # :-) 15.12.11 # Yay! 15.12.13 # Yay for FM! 15.21.54 # yay for dwihno 15.22.11 Part Zagor 15.22.26 Part TBoy 15.28.36 Join tracktheripper [0] (~jirc@ACB57607.ipt.aol.com) 15.28.48 # Hello 15.28.53 # yo 15.29.01 # hey you :) 15.30.43 # whats the latest? 15.30.54 # dunno 15.30.59 # potatoes? 15.31.01 # oh ok :( 15.31.12 # potatoes?!?!?! 15.31.18 # what the hell u on about?! 15.31.21 # Zagor: jzoss has completed some wonderful patches. 15.31.36 # Zagor isnt here right now 15.31.40 # :( 15.32.11 # :-/ 15.32.21 # * dwihno wants inverted text cursor! :D :D :D 15.32.23 # WHAT!! Where did Zagor go? 15.32.45 # well Zagor should realise IRC is not the same without him :) 15.33.27 # heeheee 15.34.39 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 15.34.42 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 15.34.51 # here he is Elinenbe!! 15.34.53 # :-) 15.35.16 # hello Zagor :) 15.35.20 # hi 15.35.37 # we were missing you whilst you were away 15.35.44 # wo! 15.36.01 # : 15.36.01 # :) 15.36.02 # Zagor: did you check out jzoss' patches? They are very nice. 15.36.06 # tracktheripper: please don't /msg me. keep all conversation in the channel. 15.36.09 # elinenbe_: not yet 15.36.20 # Zagor: he said you helped him with one of them. 15.36.27 # Zagor I only messaged you once :-) 15.36.31 # elinenbe_: yeah, we discussed it here yesterday 15.36.37 # tracktheripper: yeah, but i'm being preemtive :-) 15.36.49 # don't massage Zagor :) 15.36.58 # oh ok, I was really worried in case you began to hate me Zagor :-) 15.37.08 # :-) 15.37.10 Join TBoy [0] (~TBoy@pD9E00F12.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.37.17 # Zagor rules! 15.37.22 # Zagor for president! 15.37.33 # how can I change the pitch 15.37.49 # on+play while playing iirc 15.38.32 # thx 15.39.02 # Will we ever see the "invert video line" present in the new interface in Rockbox soon? 15.39.21 # no, ON+UP/DOWN 15.39.33 # oh 15.39.39 # but on+play gets you the menu then? 15.39.44 # never mind 15.40.24 # tracktheripper: there is no patch for it 15.40.54 # well someone implemented it in a redesigned interface somewhere on your site 15.41.45 # just curious 15.42.01 # I repeat: there is no patch for it 15.42.12 # i know that you told me once :-) 15.42.43 # oh, Zagor is in repeat mode :) 15.42.50 # HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! 15.43.02 # wonder what he is like in Shuffle mode! :-) 15.44.27 # wheres quelsaruk? 15.45.09 # siesta 15.45.17 # lol 15.45.31 # :) 15.45.54 # ;-) 15.48.34 # :-( 15.48.54 # is there a faster way to skip the pitch level 15.49.01 # or some sort of reset 15.49.08 # no 15.49.20 # there is a patch that accelerates it 15.49.32 # ohh 15.50.04 # what would be good in addition to pitch is preset pitch levels 15.50.12 # say "slow" "normal" "fast" 15.51.33 # the pitch is designed for DJs. they don't change pitch very much, but want it very exact 15.51.46 # is there some sort of word wrap in the txt reader 15.51.55 # not yet 15.52.14 # yea Zagor, but I thought that just could supplement the normal pitch adjuster 15.52.18 # there's a text reader patch 15.52.20 # for a different one 15.52.25 # yeah well there should be a faster way to 15.52.27 # too 15.52.39 # i'd like to see both styles of text reader switchable while reading 15.52.41 # that wouldn't hurt no1 except ripper 15.52.51 # Pees ripper 15.53.03 # ?????? 15.53.29 # I didn't mean you 15.53.46 # zagor wouldn't that be possibility 15.53.53 # oh ok you had me worried for a moment. I didn;t mean to upset u 15.54.04 Quit Snorlax () 15.54.17 # TBoy: many things are possible. few are implemented... :-) 15.54.53 # yea but every daily build the file size seems to increase and I thought files over 200k won;t load 15.55.04 # today Zagor decreased it 15.55.10 # oh right 15.55.24 # I was just concered what happens when the 200k limit is reached 15.57.31 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 15.57.48 # Zagor I know the Archos can read .txt files. could u type .txt files with the letter input screen? 15.58.38 # if someone implements it :) 15.58.53 # yes but is the Archos physically capable of doing it? 15.59.02 # Schnueff: actually I only decreased the ram usage, not the file size. 15.59.09 # Zagor: oh right 15.59.17 # plus I had to take the ram back again :-) 15.59.40 # hehe 15.59.50 # Hi Badger! 15.59.54 # now fix them sim builds you made red ;-) 15.59.58 # hi track 16.00.51 # Badger don't laugh but I tried to make my Jukebox play WMA by renaming the extension from .wma to .mp3 :-) 16.01.07 # Did it work? :) 16.01.22 # * Bagder tries not to laugh out loud 16.01.35 # * TBoy giggles 16.01.35 # no, it crashed my Jukebox through and through :( 16.01.45 # well, i could try renaming .txt to .mp3 to make the jukebox read it out then perhaps :) 16.01.59 # hahahaha 16.02.12 # hehehe 16.02.32 # very interesting concept though :) 16.02.36 # you know what codec would rule midi LMAO 16.02.57 # or I tried renaming the extension to .zagor so I could see his face on my Jukebox's LCD 16.02.58 # no seriously I mean MP4/AAC that one's good 16.03.30 # tracktheripper: wow, that would've been scary! ;-) 16.03.40 # lol 16.04.06 # :) 16.05.47 # Badger how old are u? 16.06.01 # guess! ;-) 16.06.06 # erm, 35? 16.06.16 # close enough, 32 16.06.26 # :) How old is your bro Zagor? 16.06.31 # respect 16.06.34 # he's a kiddo 16.06.37 # only 30 16.06.43 # haha 16.06.46 # well im a baby at 24 16.06.51 # heehee 16.06.56 # youngster ;-) 16.07.04 # :) 16.07.13 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 16.07.14 # I'm still an embrio 17 16.07.20 # lol 16.07.22 # hehe 16.07.43 # Bagder why don't you and Zagor pay me a visit in London? 16.07.43 # :) 16.08.01 Part Zagor 16.08.07 # pay? that could be expensive :) 16.08.16 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 16.08.32 # now look what you have done! You made him go away! :-( 16.08.32 # you come here instead, we outnumber you ;-) 16.08.38 # lol 16.08.54 # maybe you can show me how to write firmware and make the ajbrec.ajz file 16.08.56 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 16.09.10 # welcome back Sir Zagor :-) 16.10.12 # Tboy where do u come from? 16.10.36 # come or live 16.10.47 # Where do u live then? 16.11.02 # germany 16.11.09 # im in London 16.11.19 # the land of congestion charging :( 16.12.28 # ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 16.13.39 # does anyone know if 'quotes' are accepted the same as "quotes" in XML? 16.13.50 # hm yes 16.14.03 # and germany the of continues sausage eating land 16.14.08 # so XHTML should too? 16.14.13 # i'd think so 16.14.21 # lol 16.14.31 # lol frankfurters 16.14.33 # :-) 16.14.38 # then again I bet MSIE barfs on it anyway, so I'd better not push my luck... 16.15.53 # ??? 16.15.58 # <-- is lost 16.16.18 # * Bagder shows tracktheripper a map ;-) 16.16.30 # I mean Im lost over what Zagor is on about 16.16.31 # l) 16.16.36 # I know 16.16.41 # Zagor: you need a looong weekend, or you'll get burst ;) 16.17.17 # Zagor, you need a holiday :-) 16.17.42 # yeah... 16.18.01 # any plans on where u going this summer? 16.18.20 # nope 16.18.31 # :-( 16.19.52 # Zagor: what about north pole, it's just a bit colder than Sweden 16.20.36 # anyone here in France? 16.20.39 Join n00beater [0] (~n00beater@pD9E00F12.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.20.42 # I am leaving fro France tonight. 16.21.11 # ummm 16.21.13 # bobTHC is french I believe 16.21.13 # shut the fuck up all you n00bie frenchmen 16.21.17 # yes 16.21.18 # he is 16.21.22 # you fuck faces 16.21.32 # wow whats wrong with him 16.21.42 # n00beater: ¿?????? 16.21.42 # calm down n00beater 16.21.47 Mode "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 16.21.59 # * TBoy somebody is mad 16.22.08 # tboy shut the fuck up 16.22.13 # * quelsaruk fears Bagder the executor 16.22.27 Part n00beater 16.22.39 # wow who rattled his cage? 16.22.40 # lol 16.22.48 # wow 16.22.49 Mode "#rockbox +o Zagor " by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 16.23.08 Mode "#rockbox +o logbot " by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 16.23.13 Topic "Matthew P. OReilly: The newest Rockbox hero!" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 16.23.20 # the rattling of guns :-) 16.23.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.23.40 # lol 16.23.48 # I thought u would boot him out Zagor 16.23.55 # yeah me too 16.24.05 # * TBoy was scared 16.24.07 # he was harmless 16.24.26 # Zagor i still chuckle at that comment u added to one request u rejected from me (again) 16.24.31 # * Bagder remembers the good old clonebot attacks of efnet... 16.24.33 # :-) 16.24.53 # ATOTC(B) 16.25.06 # AOTC even 16.25.08 # pardon? 16.25.31 # buddys I off to efnet to get some games 16.26.03 Part TBoy 16.26.04 # sure 16.26.41 # XHTML is pretty scary stuff. *all* tags need to be closed, even and friends 16.26.51 # ouch 16.26.54 # thats xml for ya 16.26.55 # :-O 16.26.56 # :) 16.26.59 # :-O 16.27.03 # someone has stolen my new patch :( 16.27.10 # well, "closed" means ending with a slash, right? 16.27.23 # Bagder: yes 16.27.24 # the sonyericsson charging animation 16.27.32 # :-( 16.27.54 # Bagder: but it still means a lot of modifications :-) 16.28.03 # yes :-) 16.28.27 # Who wants a cup of tea? 16.28.29 # Bagder: btw, beware of @media print. old MSIE uses those tags for the computer display too! 16.28.33 # tracktheripper, please 16.28.34 # Quel, Badger, Zagor? 16.28.49 # no thx 16.28.52 # would u like one webmind?] 16.29.03 # Zagor: hihihi, ooops ;-) 16.29.17 # took me a while to understand why the heck some people didn't see half of my pages... 16.29.20 # * Bagder just had a cup 16.29.21 Join Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 16.29.28 # sure 16.29.32 # hi Snorlax 16.29.46 Part quelsaruk ("rebooting") 16.31.05 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 16.35.23 # I see that we have OPS now! 16.35.29 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 16.35.32 # re 16.35.44 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cev10r.cable.mindspring.com) 16.36.23 # change to topic to "Rockbox: The poor mans Ferrari" 16.37.26 Join barker`coding [0] (~sdb@adsl-68-74-103-158.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 16.37.58 # or "Rocbox: don't leave home without it" (taken from American Express comercials in the USA) 16.38.15 # i leave home w/o mine. 16.38.30 # though, that's only because it won't play in my car anymore, and i used it to mirror my mp3 collection at work. 16.39.20 # Zagor: u could try using 'tidy' to modify the pages for you 16.39.44 # Schnueff: doesn't really help for dynamically generated stuff. 'tidy' isn't good at perl :-) 16.39.48 # :) 16.40.13 # so write a perl script that cleans them up ! :-] 16.40.25 # hehe 16.40.50 # open(STDOUT,"|tidy") 16.40.51 # :) 16.41.59 # ugh. xhtml isn't backwards compatible with html4. i'm definitely sticking with html. 16.43.30 # while you are wasting time at work on Friday go check out www.linenberg.com/insanity.html 16.43.42 # turn on the volume :) 16.44.23 # I bet you intended that page to actually have a background color :-) 16.46.17 # Zagor: nothing but white. 16.46.33 # it's gray for me 16.46.40 # oh. 16.46.54 # never trust defaults :-) 16.46.55 # well, I coudn't really care too much. I just threw it together. 16.47.00 # Zagor: no kidding. 16.48.32 Join _MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 16.48.32 Quit MT (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.48.32 Nick _MT is now known as MT (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 16.51.38 Join GreyShadow [0] (Snak@adsl-209-204-188-244.sonic.net) 16.53.38 Part Zagor 16.54.11 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 16.55.07 # why on hell 3d studio messes my computer this way? 16.55.35 # well 16.55.44 # have a good weekend (week) I am off for a skiing holiday 16.55.45 # time to have acoffee with a spanish girl 16.55.47 # ;) 16.55.54 # i'll find out later! 16.55.55 # quelsaruk: do you like cycling? 16.56.54 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|coffee (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 17.01.56 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 17.03.24 # bye all 17.03.26 Quit elinenbe ("Heading to the pub") 17.03.48 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 17.05.36 Quit matsl () 17.34.17 Join bu88a1 [0] (~jirc@cbordata.net) 17.38.32 Quit bu88a1 (Client Quit) 17.41.17 Quit MT (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.44.28 Join MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 17.56.06 Join bu88a1 [0] (~jirc@cbordata.com) 17.59.35 Quit bu88a1 (Client Quit) 18.08.24 Quit TotMacher () 18.12.25 Nick quel|coffee is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 18.12.34 # Zagor: how's that web going? 18.15.28 Join MicroChip [0] (trilluser@h-68-164-205-134.NYCMNY83.covad.net) 18.16.12 # hi 18.17.31 Quit MicroChip (Client Quit) 18.23.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.04.47 Part Zagor 19.05.20 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 19.35.11 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA92AE.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.38.56 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.43.01 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-47-231.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 19.57.14 # reboooting 19.57.17 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 20.09.12 Nick barker`coding is now known as barker`meeting (~sdb@adsl-68-74-103-158.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 20.09.30 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 20.09.36 Join CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] [0] (~FullT@200.202.226.234) 20.09.49 # ola capetao 20.10.15 DBUG Sent KICK CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] to server 20.10.15 # 1,0::0,12C1,0.0,4A1,0::0,0o01,04opa 20.10.15 Kick (#rockbox CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] :Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se 20.10.18 Join CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] [0] (~FullT@200.202.226.234) 20.10.21 DBUG Sent KICK CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] to server 20.10.21 # 1,0::0,12C1,0.0,4A1,0::0,0o01,04hehe 20.10.21 Kick (#rockbox CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] :Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se 20.10.22 Join CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] [0] (~FullT@200.202.226.234) 20.10.27 *** Alert Mode level 1 20.10.27 DBUG sent MODE #rockbox +b *!*FullT@200.202.226.* 20.10.27 DBUG Sent KICK CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] to server 20.10.27 # 1,0::0,12C1,0.0,4A1,0::0,0o01,04_|_ 20.10.27 Mode "#rockbox +b *!*FullT@200.202.226.* " by logbot (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 20.10.27 Kick (#rockbox CaPeTaO_HC[Gtr] :Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se 20.10.27 *** Alert Mode level 2 20.11.58 Part Zagor_ 20.20.28 *** Alert Mode OFF 20.23.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.46.35 Nick barker`meeting is now known as barker (~sdb@adsl-68-74-103-158.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 20.55.16 Join PsycoXuul [0] (psyco@adsl-64-161-173-170.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 21.01.40 # time to go home 21.01.48 # it's friday night! 21.02.58 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 21.03.48 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.03.54 Nick PsycoXuul is now known as PsycoXul (psyco@adsl-64-161-173-170.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 21.08.33 Quit seb-sleep (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.09.16 Join SeeSchloss [0] (SeeSchloss@169.111-30-212.9massy1-1-ro-as-i4-1.9tel.net) 21.10.17 # hum 21.15.36 Join seb-sleep [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.15.50 Join BrotherThad [0] (~BrotherTh@pcp02661247pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net) 21.17.05 # In the immortal words of Pink Floyd - 'Is there anybody out there?' 21.17.28 # In the immortal words of a counter-strike newb - 'neg.' 21.17.29 # hello 21.17.33 # does anybody here remember vera lynne? 21.17.42 # lol 21.18.44 # hello barker, random, MT - do any of you use the recorder 21.19.04 # <<-- fm recorder 21.19.09 # <<<<-- recorder 21.19.22 # i used to have an fmrec, but returned it 21.19.27 # it wouldn't play a bunch of my songs. 21.19.27 # :( 21.19.46 # that sux barker... which one do you use now? 21.19.47 # heh, never had that problem :) 21.19.56 # rec15 21.20.10 # from the fmrec20 21.20.28 # and its not that big of a deal, since i never wanted to fmrec anything in the past, and can't envision wanting to in the future. 21.20.41 # ok, I've got the rec6... jumped at it as soon as they released it, because I was specifically looking for a recorder not a player 21.21.36 # k. 21.21.40 # Rather than assume (since you're here) - do you use rockbox? 21.21.51 # Yes. 21.21.56 # bleeding, usually. 21.23.13 Quit seb-sleep (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21.23.15 Join seb-sleep [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.23.18 # do you know if the standard ver has implemented recording? The FAQ still says it doesn't (except in daily's), but the current news says it does as of November'02 21.23.57 # The 1.4 release, hasn't. 21.24.06 # The daily builds might, I'm not sure. 21.24.08 # Just get one and try it. 21.25.34 # I was going to, but figured, Why mess with something that works... I'm not techie enough to clean up after myself if I make a mess, and I use the recorder as a part of my business 21.26.44 Quit Snorlax () 21.29.29 # its really easy - even if it wont then boot up (it will, but bear with me :), you just connect it to usb and delete the offending ajbrec.ajz 21.29.58 # you have MT's lifetime gaurentee (this is not a gaurentee) that you wont damage your hardware by loading a daily build 21.31.11 Join Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 21.31.24 # hmm moreover the daily builds don't have more bugs than the 1.4 21.31.41 # very true. 21.31.49 # god i hate 56k :/ 21.31.51 # I used 1.4 for about 30 seconds, and then went... "hmmm..." 21.31.56 # i miss my dsl 21.31.57 # that's why i write tiny software, MT. 21.32.01 # because i used to be on dialup. 21.32.03 # what was the last thing i said? 21.32.05 # and i hated long d/l times. 21.32.18 # (before "god I hate 56k") 21.32.41 # [15:30:04] < you have MT's lifetime gaurentee (this is not a gaurentee) that you wont damage your hardware by loading a daily build 21.33.03 # ah well, didnt lose too much of the convo :) 21.33.33 # SeeSchloss: you know much about playlist.c ? 21.34.16 # hmm... well... not much 21.34.30 # why ? 21.34.44 # hmm :/ I'll wait for Linus or Zagor to come online 21.34.46 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB6121E.ipt.aol.com) 21.34.57 # Hello Rockboxers 21.34.58 # im writing a patch that will allow you to jump to a file in a playlist 21.35.12 # (like pressing J in xmms or winamp) 21.35.42 # and how would it work ? 21.35.47 # and im debating wether to use playlist_peek or just to parse the playlist m3u file 21.36.21 # MT I have a good suggestion for you 21.36.32 # it pops up a keyboard, you enter "fleetwood" it shows you first ten tracks in the playlist that have fleetwood in their path 21.36.49 # you choose one in the list, it jumps to that point in the playlist 21.37.21 # Why don;t you include a feature like the Rio Riot, it makes playlists according to how often you play certain tracks 21.37.32 # because someone has already done that 21.37.40 # and 21.37.42 # haha 21.37.45 # i dont want that :) 21.37.46 # really? I can't find it yet 21.37.57 # opensource is all about scratching your own itches :) 21.38.02 # lol 21.38.17 # well i cannot program so someone has to do the programming for me :-) 21.38.48 # check the mailing list archives, i'm sure its been done 21.38.55 # yea 21.39.10 # neither can fred, doesnt stop him rolling out umpteen variant versions of rockbox ;) 21.39.19 # heehee 21.39.21 # hah 21.39.47 # I have a good suggestion MT 21.40.18 # A sort of "standby" mode so when you turn the Jukebox off then back on, it doesn't go through the Archos Jukebox Recorder boot-screen 21.40.32 # thereby saving battery power and booting faster 21.40.48 # That'd really cool. A quick-power-on. 21.40.52 # Like xp's suspend-to-ram 21.40.56 # yea 21.40.59 # exactly Barket 21.41.01 # Barker 21.41.03 # gg 21.41.08 # You will find it in Feature Requests 21.41.11 # I sent that request 21.41.23 # nomad zen has that feature. 21.41.38 # you hit power, you get music. 21.41.39 # don't you swear at me Barker!!! 21.41.39 # lol 21.41.58 # Is it hardware or firmware controlled though? 21.42.06 # this "standby" mode? 21.42.23 # I don't know, 21.42.32 # just wondered 21.42.39 # but it would be really handy to have 21.42.40 # lol 21.43.09 # I had a Creative Labs once and it was a POS 21.44.27 # only 4 hour battery life? You gotta be kidding! 21.44.52 Quit BrotherThad (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.44.56 # while that would be a good feature, it would be impossible to do 21.45.30 # wjy?? 21.45.34 # why?? 21.45.46 # because the first bit of code we can execute is AFTER the original archos firmware has loaded off ROM, descrambled our firmware, and started to execute it 21.45.57 # right 21.46.02 # prior to that we have no control over anything 21.46.06 # so a "standby" mode isnt possible? 21.46.21 # hmm 21.46.27 # would it be possible to turn off the lcd 21.46.30 # and spindown the disk 21.46.31 # thats possible 21.46.34 # but still be ON 21.46.38 # possibly :) 21.46.43 # heh 21.46.47 # yea 21.46.49 # so you've got very minimal battery usage. 21.47.23 # you would need to talk to Linus or one of the other gurus about that tho, I'm very new at this embedded systems programming 21.47.49 # ohhhh 21.48.11 # kk 21.48.12 # and, i'm out. 21.48.13 # cya guys. 21.48.13 Part barker 21.49.20 # wow ! current runtime : 21h 24min ! 21.49.40 # what batteries are u using SeeSchloss? 21.49.43 # 2000 Mah? 21.49.52 # hmm I got an FM Recorder 21.50.42 # oh right 21.50.50 # that uses non-stantard batteries 21.51.08 Quit random1 ("ChatZilla 0.8.13c [Mozilla rv:1.3b/20030210]") 21.51.25 # LiIon 2200mAh iirc ? 21.52.06 # yea 21.52.15 # my Archos has 1500 Mah NiMhs 21.52.36 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.52.46 # and what is your max runtime ? 21.53.28 # I get 10 hours out of mine 21.54.23 # ok 21.55.10 # still much better than my old Creative Labs Nomad 21.56.59 # ah ? the nomad doesn't have a good autonomy ? 21.57.17 # the Nomad has one hell of a crass battery life 21.57.21 # only 4 hours 21.57.55 # plus you can't drag and drop you have to use the ridicilous Playcenter software to send files to the Jukebopx 21.58.47 # ah ok... well I think the Archos system is very good (recognized like an external disk) 21.59.06 # yea 21.59.14 # the Nomad is NOT recognised in My Computer 21.59.36 # I like the "feel" of the Archos compared to the Nomad 22.01.21 # the Archos fits snugly in your hand 22.01.24 # unlike the Nomad 22.03.39 # heehee 22.03.49 # hmm the Archos could be smaller and lighter... but it's always better than a cd player 22.04.17 # yea 22.04.25 # well the FM recorder is smaller and lighter 22.04.51 # but I feel the design of the FM recorder lacks the character of the normal Recorder 22.05.35 # yes, but I prefer the fm design... 22.05.57 # I prefer the industrial design of the normal Recorder to the "melted Ipod" design of the FM recorder 22.06.29 # I had a player before my fm and I think that the blue s were too big... 22.06.47 # they are NOT big :-) 22.06.54 # they are there for a few reasons 22.07.26 # those "blue" thingies you mention 22.07.34 # i think those bumpers are one of the more ingenious aspects of the archos design 22.07.41 # tea 22.07.42 # yea 22.07.43 # makes it much more rugged than any other mp3 player out there 22.07.58 # hmm 22.08.06 # when i drop it, i'm not afraid it's gonna destroy the disk or shatter into a million pieces 22.08.19 # they a) add to the ruggedness of the Archos, they protect the hard drive and they give the Archos its distinctive look 22.08.52 # and b) blue suits the silver very well 22.09.04 # i'd rather they were black 22.09.05 # but oh well hehe 22.09.10 # yuck! 22.09.15 # blue looks better 22.09.16 # black goes with everything 22.09.33 # black and silver? you gotta be kidding! 22.09.36 # i'd also rather the whole casing was made of the brushed aluminum that the back piece is made of 22.09.46 # yea that would be cool 22.09.49 # and that it was unpainted 22.09.57 # but then again it would make it more prone to scratches 22.10.03 # that silver paint just looks silly, the brushed aluminum underneath looks better 22.10.08 # aluminium scratches easily 22.10.19 # ok so painted with a strong clear overcoat :p 22.10.27 # lol 22.10.41 # But do u another MP3 player that has "drag and drop" ease? 22.10.52 # i hate drag and drop 22.10.58 # i much prefer pattern matching 22.11.05 # but same difference :p 22.11.15 # Drag And Drop is soooo much easier 22.11.29 # there's a few others that do act like a generic disk 22.11.33 # hmm packard bell made a mp3 player-usb key ;-) 22.11.47 # you try using Creative Labs Playcenter software 22.11.52 # you will be swearing in seconds :-) 22.11.56 # it can not be compared to an Archos, but it has drag-and-drop 22.12.26 # personaly i prefer cp -R blah /mnt/jb 22.12.32 # but no other MP3 player has the thunderous sound quality like the Archos 22.12.46 # to having to scroll around and click a bunch of stuff and make wild mouse movements 22.12.53 # the Archos is for serious MP3 users (like me) 22.12.57 # but you can do either with the archos heh 22.12.58 # lol 22.13.31 # and they're both better than some vendor-specific proprietary sync software 22.13.37 # yea 22.13.49 # 192kbs is the best setting for CD sound quality 22.13.56 # PsycoXul > with a MP3 player that don't support drag and drop, you can't cp either 22.14.07 # SeeSchloss: right... well usualy anyway 22.14.22 # anything lower than 192kbs sounds shit, anything higher is pointless :-) 22.14.33 # you're more likely to be able to cp than drag&drop on one that doesn't do drag&drop in windows though heh 22.14.48 # I don't think so... 22.15.00 # sure you are 22.15.05 # well I do SeeSchloss :-) 22.15.05 # if it's at all possible 22.15.13 # those that don't drag and drop are not recognized as external disks, so you can't cp 22.15.23 # and the linux hax0rs can figure out how to do it 22.15.24 # 192kbs rules :-) 22.15.26 # then it'll be done 22.15.26 # heh 22.15.31 # heehee 22.15.40 # fat chance that any windows "hax0rs"'ll ever make it drag&drop though 22.16.06 # tracktheripper: optimal bitrate really does depend on content 22.16.11 # no ! 56kbps encoded with wmp is the best !!! ;-) 22.16.12 # also on the encoder 22.16.20 # well Psycoxul 192kbs suits me for everything 22.16.26 # they say "56kbps : CD quality" 22.16.31 # and im using the Franhofer codek 22.16.42 # yuk 22.16.49 # you realize that's optimized for 128kbps don't you? 22.17.02 # ive compared 192kbs compared to WAV files and I cannot tell the difference 22.17.09 # hmm lame is the best, isn't it ? 22.17.13 # and that it won't be as good as lame 192kbps 22.17.18 # no Fraunhofer is better 22.17.32 # and that it'll also take a lot longer to encode :p 22.17.37 # do u know what Lame means? Lame Is Not An MP3 Encoder 22.17.38 # nah lame is best 22.17.38 # :p 22.17.41 # heehee 22.17.47 # yeah, and do you know why it means that? 22.17.48 # wrong, Fraunhofer is better 22.17.57 # cause it was originaly just a patch to the original iso encoder dist 22.18.11 # and it really wasn't an mp3 encoder; just a patch to one heh 22.18.28 # <--- thinks Fraunhofer is best :-) 22.18.41 # i've been using it since those days when you had to seperately download the iso dist and the lame patch and build it yourself 22.18.59 # <--- thinks Blade sounds dreadful 22.19.11 # yeah i used blade for a short while 22.19.15 # and gogo for a short while 22.19.22 # Blade is the worst MP3 encoder 22.19.28 # but i've always come back to lame 22.19.33 # lame is the king :p 22.19.36 # I used Blade once and wish I hadnt 22.19.45 # Wrong Fraunhofer is king :O 22.19.47 # :P 22.20.10 # yea Lame in both senses of the word :P 22.20.11 # heehee 22.20.11 # :) 22.20.26 # lame --alt-preset standard 0wns j00 and j3r m0th3rs 4nus 22.20.37 # :p 22.20.47 # <--- has used MP3s since they first started and still thinks Fraunhofer sounds better 22.20.57 # CBR is for people who don't know any better 22.21.17 # VBR is those who are picky about a lot of things 22.21.37 # if you wanna get down to it 22.21.45 # VBR is best left unmentioned 22.21.47 # heehee 22.21.49 # mp3 isn't for people who care about quality so much as much music 22.22.14 # PsycoXul we will never ever agree :-) 22.22.18 # and even for us... 22.22.21 # ogg is better :p 22.22.21 # so lets talk about something else :-) 22.22.36 # wrong, 192kbs MP3 is better :P 22.22.47 # no, ogg really is better 22.22.59 # ive heard 0gg and it is no better to MP3 22.23.09 # you can't really argue, tests show conclusively that ogg is better quality:size 22.23.23 # or vorbis is rather 22.23.24 # well NOTHING will make me divorce from 192kbs MP3 22.23.26 # heehee 22.23.27 # :-) 22.23.28 # ogg's just a container file format 22.23.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.23.47 # well the Archos CANNOT play Ogg so there ;-) 22.23.53 # yeah 22.23.56 # my pda can... 22.24.04 # but it can't have 20G of storage 22.24.12 # well I have Soundforge that plays Ogg :-) 22.25.05 # and ogg wasn't at it's best till 1.0 22.25.11 # and it'll probably still get better as it goes 22.25.14 # well Psycho lets end this argument and lets listen to WMA instead :-) 22.25.18 # heehee :-) 22.25.26 # hehe 22.25.50 # i'm running around egypt looking for a sheep 22.25.53 # do u wanna know what WMA stands for? 22.26.18 # Windows Messed-up Audio 22.26.19 # heehee 22.26.20 # heh 22.26.34 # lol 22.26.43 # :-) 22.26.56 # you can always get Realizer if you think your compressed files sound shit 22.27.17 # it's a ood thin that the Archos are not able to play wma... 22.27.21 # Realizer ? 22.27.35 # ood thin = good thing 22.27.44 # Realizer is a program that claims to "improve sound quality by restoring the frequencies lost by the MP3 compression" 22.28.14 # hmm... and is it good ? 22.28.19 # No 22.28.27 # ok lol 22.28.32 # of course in reality, nothing's gonna be able to magically put back things that aren't there 22.28.37 # Realizer = "Loudness On Ecstacy" 22.29.15 # heehee 22.29.23 # I sent that as a feature request once 22.29.26 # it makes a lot of noise and wants to hump your couch? 22.29.41 # ???? 22.29.59 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@cbordata.com) 22.30.04 # :p 22.30.11 # well I agree with Zagor that Realizer is just snake oil 22.31.22 Part bu88a1 22.31.47 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@cbordata.com) 22.35.24 Quit bu88a1 () 22.38.42 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@cbordata.com) 22.41.53 Quit bu88a1 (Client Quit) 22.43.11 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@cbordata.net) 22.43.39 Quit bu88a1 (Client Quit) 22.43.50 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@cbordata.net) 22.44.27 Part bu88a1 22.44.38 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@cbordata.net) 22.45.01 # hello..... 22.45.16 # checking out mIRC working?? 22.45.18 # 'lut 22.45.30 # huh 22.45.57 # hah 22.46.15 # thanks works ok. 22.46.46 Quit bu88a1 (Client Quit) 22.49.08 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@cbordata.com) 22.49.14 Quit bu88a1 (Client Quit) 22.49.18 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@cbordata.com) 22.51.11 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 22.52.08 Part bu88a1 22.52.22 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@cbordata.net) 22.52.31 Quit bu88a1 (Client Quit) 22.52.38 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@cbordata.net) 22.55.15 Quit bu88a1 (Client Quit) 23.08.15 Quit SeeSchloss ("FRANCE !! 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