--- Log for 08.03.103 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 11 days and 13 hours ago 00.09.54 Quit _seb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.15.16 Join _seb_ [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 00.21.37 # anyone know what the policy would be for introducing another buffer? 00.22.08 # atm ive just added one in, but just realised probably need slightly more strict mem management on a machine this small :) 00.23.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.24.44 Quit edx () 00.45.46 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB66081.ipt.aol.com) 00.46.03 # Hiii 00.47.53 # Why do so many rejected requests contain the line "This is not possible to implement, due to hardware limitations"? 00.48.21 # because so many people request stuff that is not possible to impliment, due to hardware limitations 00.48.34 # yes but its always that same sentence :-) 00.48.36 # heehee 00.49.11 # ah, well, who knows 00.49.46 # all rejected by the same person? everybody doing the rejecting likes that sentence? maybe there's a form for rejections with a drop-down box of previously used reasons you can select from instead of typing a new one... 00.49.52 # yea was just checking out Feature Requests and noticed that 95% of the rejected ones contain that same exact sentence 00.49.52 # lol 00.50.54 # just being curious 01.04.05 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 01.05.28 # hey Linus :) 01.05.32 # yo 01.05.56 # whats up mate> 01.05.57 # :) 01.06.08 # not much 01.06.27 # awwww 01.06.37 # have you tried Jzoss's ID3 tag editor? 01.07.06 # nope 01.07.36 # i have the ajbrec.ajz file he did for me and the ID3 tag editor is superb 01.07.43 # works flawlessly 01.08.17 # nice 01.08.31 # :-) if you give me your email address ill forward it onto you 01.09.52 # there is no patch available? 01.10.12 # well he applied the patch for me 01.10.19 # he just emailed me the ajbrec.ajz file 01.10.35 # so if u wanna see it in action I can forward it to you if u give me ur addy 01.11.08 # i don't have time for it right now, i'll apply the patch myself when i'm ready 01.11.11 # but thanks 01.11.42 # no problemo 01.12.06 # Linus is there a pre-defined sentence for rejected requests? 01.13.26 # perhaps, why? 01.14.28 # A great deal of rejected requests have "This is not possible to implement due to hardware limitations" That always appears when Zagor rejects a request 01.15.22 # i guess that is predefined, yes 01.16.04 # ohhhh 01.16.05 # lol 01.22.37 Quit tracktheripper (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.22.37 NSplit sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.22.55 Join PH [0] (jirc@dslam181-25-166-62.adsl.zonnet.nl) 01.22.55 NHeal sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.22.55 NJoin tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB66081.ipt.aol.com) 01.24.01 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 01.24.01 Quit PH (Client Quit) 01.24.04 Join PH [0] (jirc@dslam181-25-166-62.adsl.zonnet.nl) 01.24.15 # Hi 01.24.33 # I have a question about Rockbox 01.24.51 # Can I use a peakmeter on the player? 01.26.09 # hello, someone here?? 01.28.02 # Nope??? 01.29.21 # oh 01.29.33 # no, you can't have a peak meter on player models 01.30.22 # Darn, well thanks for the awnser anyway 01.30.46 # I leave, bye 01.30.59 Quit PH ("Leaving") 01.34.29 # LinusN: I'm having some problems programming :) 01.35.01 # i'm trying to access the playlist struct from playlist.c outside of playlist.c 01.35.22 # and i cant quite find the right way to do it, and some people I aksed told me I couldnt do it :/ 01.49.13 # ??? 01.51.35 # just #include "playlist.h" 01.53.53 # hmm - i mean the actual static instance of the paylist_info struct 01.54.02 # yes 01.54.13 # it is called 'playlist' 01.54.31 # i get a linker error when i do that :/ 01.54.39 # playlist.index = 1; 01.54.56 # printf("%s\n",playlist.filename); 01.55.09 # should work 01.55.10 # i get undefiend reference to playlist 01.55.13 # :/ 01.55.48 # /home/tom/rockbox/rockbox-devel/builds/jumpf.o(.text+0x2f): In function `jumpf_screen': 01.55.56 # /home/tom/rockbox/rockbox-devel/uisimulator/x11/../../apps/jumpf.c:20: undefined reference to `playlist' 01.56.03 # collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 02.00.51 # ah now i see 02.00.57 # it is static 02.01.03 # i wonder why 02.01.46 # hmm 02.01.59 # i shall have to put some of my code inside playlist.c then 02.02.12 # probably, yes 02.02.35 # i guess there is a reason for declaring 'playlist' static... 02.02.52 # probably :) 02.06.12 # also - i'm playing with iterating through the current playlist, filtering it - do you think using playlist_peek() or manually parseing the playlist would be best? 02.08.00 # it depends, i guess 02.08.16 # i'll try it both ways 02.08.17 # what is the filter function doing? 02.08.32 # im doing a "jump to .." function 02.08.37 # aha 02.08.43 # like the jump to on winamp or xmms 02.08.45 # do whatever you feel is best 02.09.00 # which ever gives the cleanest code 02.09.06 # okay 02.23.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.52.42 Join jlamar_ [0] (jirc@hwdpub01.multnomah.lib.or.us) 02.52.48 Part jlamar_ 03.09.07 Join jzoss [0] (jzoss@cs6711155-229.satx.rr.com) 03.50.19 Quit jzoss ("BitchX: the original point-and-click interface.") 04.23.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.29.55 Part LinusN 05.50.16 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.23.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.29.57 Join PsycoXuul [0] (psyco@adsl-64-161-172-144.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 06.35.01 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.47.47 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.55.46 Nick PsycoXuul is now known as PsycoXul (psyco@adsl-64-161-172-144.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 07.44.00 Join Ryono [0] (jirc@h24-64-98-48.ed.shawcable.net) 07.44.38 # Hey... does anyone else have a problem with their archos's hard drive not spinning up? 07.46.24 Quit Ryono (Client Quit) 07.46.38 Join Ryono [0] (jirc@h24-64-98-48.ed.shawcable.net) 07.46.52 # Can anyone see this? 07.50.24 # I hate to be obnoxious but, Hello?? 07.52.00 Quit Ryono ("Leaving") 08.23.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.23.59 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 11.09.24 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 11.09.30 # morning 11.32.39 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB40BD9.ipt.aol.com) 11.55.00 Quit tracktheripper (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.00.38 # i need to make a low level format to a toshiba hdd 12.00.51 # anyone has an utility that can help me? 12.13.32 # what os? 12.16.14 # windows 2k 12.16.42 # toshiba website is horrible 12.17.08 # i've found seaget utility.. ibm utility, but i can't fing toshiba utiliy 12.17.10 # :( 12.24.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.25.46 # great.. 12.25.57 # now it works... 12.27.51 # moin 12.28.02 # hi Schnueff 12.55.13 # i don't understand windows 12.56.54 Quit Snorlax (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.15.31 # well.. time to go home 13.16.20 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 13.28.19 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA92AE.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.51.43 Quit seb-sleep (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.15.51 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 14.16.12 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB4EFBB.ipt.aol.com) 14.18.29 Quit tracktheripper (Client Quit) 14.24.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.02.55 Join Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 15.18.51 Quit GreyShadow ("going, going, gone.") 16.21.48 Join Dracoony [0] (~Dracoony@p5084B03F.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.22.06 # moin! 16.22.55 Join seb-sleep [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 16.23.15 # dum di dum.... 16.23.28 Part Dracoony 16.24.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.10.20 Join jzoss [0] (jzoss@cs6711155-229.satx.rr.com) 18.16.34 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB78DA5.ipt.aol.com) 18.19.31 Join edx`busy [0] (edx@pD9EAA732.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.23.10 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 18.24.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.37.11 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.55.13 Nick edx`busy is now known as edx (edx@pD9EAA732.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.58.36 Join gclark [0] (~glc@user-119ah2f.biz.mindspring.com) 18.59.23 Quit gclark (Client Quit) 19.00.58 Join gclark [0] (~glc@user-119ah2f.biz.mindspring.com) 19.01.10 Quit gclark (Client Quit) 19.12.58 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.14.23 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB78DA5.ipt.aol.com) 19.14.30 # hi 19.23.41 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 19.38.10 Nick edx is now known as edx`off (edx@pD9EAA732.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.40.33 # hiya, track 19.50.26 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 19.50.38 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB78DA5.ipt.aol.com) 19.50.53 # Hi Jzoss, Linus and Zagor 19.53.14 # any news? 19.53.32 # i and zagor met today and discussed 2.0 19.54.01 # ohhhh 19.54.06 # wish I could meet Zagor 19.54.21 # looks like 2.0 is coming pretty soon 19.54.33 # yea 19.54.44 # will it include the "inverted video line" and the ID3 tag editors? 19.54.50 # tracktheripper: why are you drooling so much over 2.0? 19.55.08 # because im a techno-freak thats why :-) 19.55.10 # the daily builds have all 2.0 features 19.55.15 # (almost) 19.55.34 # and Im a mega die-hard obsessed MP3 fanatic :-) 19.55.52 # still, what's wrong with using a daily build? 19.56.16 # because according to the website "the daily builds are guaranteed to have bugs" 19.56.42 # yeah, it says so 19.57.06 # I just dislike the way Zagor comments on some of my feature requests 19.57.15 # he keeps thinking im trying to be funny when Im not 19.57.26 # example? 19.57.56 # like the "drive partitioning" one. He replied, "Do you use Winamp to partition your deskstop PC?" 19.59.30 # he misunderstood your request 19.59.49 # he thought you wanted a partitioning menu option in rockbox 20.00.36 # well it was just a thought. he didn't have to be rude 20.01.12 # still, why not use a dedicated partitioning tool? 20.01.39 # i though xp had a hadr disk manager 20.01.45 # yea It does 20.01.48 # just figured it out 20.01.59 # i have a 2nd partition formatted as NTFS 20.02.04 # for my data files 20.02.37 # you have to understand that zagor and the rest of the crew get a lot of very silly requests 20.02.54 # yea I can see them 20.03.12 # like "Show JPEG pictures on a TV with a video RF cord2 20.03.26 # we sometimes have a hard time explaining to people why things can't be done, and why they should read the FAQ before submitting stupid requests 20.03.41 # true 20.03.50 # too bad there's not a bugzilla-style rating system where the rest of us could moderate out all the silli-est requests for you. =) 20.03.59 # do the two partitions show up as two drives? 20.04.12 # well to be honest it took me a long time to figure out why pitchshift is possible and timestretching isnt 20.04.57 # yea Linus both partitions show in My Computer 20.05.00 # nice 20.05.10 # the NTFS partition does NOT show in Rockbox or Archos firmwares 20.05.21 # no, only the first partition 20.05.28 # why ntfs? 20.05.41 # because NTFS supports native compression 20.05.51 # squeeze more files onto the partiton 20.05.58 # track clearly does not run linux. It makes me sad that NTFS support is not quite there in linux yet. =) 20.06.14 # JZOSS I use Windows XP you fool :-) 20.06.24 # jzoss: ntfs is evil anyway 20.06.30 # I dual-boot, so I still format my data drive as Fat32. 20.06.35 # there is nothing wrong with NTFS 20.06.42 # tracktheripper: yes there is 20.06.43 # Well, when you dual-boot, you gotta live with what MS supports. :S 20.06.51 # it's proprietary 20.07.13 # Heh. Even getting simple NFS/NIS to work under MS is a royal pain. 20.07.15 # Linus does Zagor really have something against me? 20.07.26 # i dunno 20.07.46 # dunno what I have done to upset him 20.09.06 # <--- bursts into tears 20.10.19 # ok ok I do admit I sent a duff request once 20.10.26 # im not denying it 20.15.33 # where is everyone? 20.16.14 # * LinusN phones home 20.17.40 # ahhh there u are Linus 20.17.44 # I'm runnin around making lunch =) 20.17.56 # <---- is very very very upset 20.18.21 # * jzoss thinks track is being a *little* bit melodramatic =) 20.18.30 # * jzoss gives track a hug 20.19.00 # awwwww 20.19.17 # Im upset that no-one has fixed my "Auto Voice Transcriber" request 20.19.26 # :-) 20.19.39 # (smiles) 20.20.20 # and im upset that Zagor isnt here :-) 20.20.23 # well, it *is* technically feasible with the hardware... so the standard response doesn't quite work ;) 20.21.03 # and my stupid attempt to play WMA files on my JB was hilarious 20.21.12 # what I did was rename the .wma extension to .mp3 20.21.57 # and you wonder why people think you're a goofball, track? lol 20.22.30 # (((gives Jzoss a damn good hiding))) 20.22.31 # :-) 20.22.44 # heh. i'm just kidding, dude 20.22.50 # i know u are :-) 20.22.52 # so am I 20.23.07 # I feel I have more spirit than anyone else in IRC 20.23.07 # lol 20.24.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.28.54 # well at least I didn't submit the "Make Plain recorder receive FM like the FM recorder request" 20.29.11 # :) 20.30.02 # or "Make the Recorder 20 make the tea" request! 20.32.16 # lol 20.32.35 # Linus I can tell u why im sooooo excited about version 2.0 20.37.42 # shoot 20.39.14 # because ever since I got my Archos after ditching the Creative Labs Nomad, Ive been using it non-stop Every day with no trouble. Rockbox brought mega improvements to the Archos firmware, and the sheer appeal of the Archos body design makes it impossible for me to leave the Archos and Rockbox alone 20.41.24 # it's funny how things have developed 20.41.51 # when we started the rockbox project, all we had in mind was hacking the jukebox for fun 20.44.25 # yea 20.44.38 # Linus Im practically married to my Archos Recorder 10 20.44.43 # would never swop it for anything else 20.45.06 # it's a cool toy 20.45.28 # yea but if somene offered to swop my 10 for an FM recorder, i'd say "no" 20.45.29 # lol 20.46.16 # mine even has a "beauty scar" where I dropped it once 20.47.35 # Linus can u settle something for me once and for all please? 20.47.43 # sure 20.48.10 # Tell me EXACTLY why Pitch shift works and why timestretch will not 20.48.31 # ok 20.48.41 # please? 20.48.56 # after all both timestretch speed up and slow down music 20.49.01 # and pitch shift 20.49.41 # digital sound consists of a number of sampled voltage levels, right? 20.49.54 # yes 20.50.10 # i know that bit 20.50.27 # so when you sample a waveform at 1000hz you need to play it back at 1000hz to reproduce it 20.50.40 # yes i understand that too 20.51.04 # if you play it back at 2000hz you produce a waveform with all frequencies doubled 20.51.18 # yea? 20.51.45 # 1 second of 1000hz sampled data gives 1/2 second data at 2000hz 20.51.59 # oh right which produces a higher pitch? 20.52.03 # yes 20.52.17 # ok what about timestretch? 20.52.24 # all we do is to play the digital data at a higher sample rate than it is recorded with 20.52.31 # ohhh 20.52.34 # i see 20.52.56 # timestretch is a lot more difficult 20.53.03 # why? 20.53.11 # 1 second of 1000hz sampled data gives 1/2 second data at 2000hz, agreed? 20.53.19 # yes 20.53.29 # sounds straightforward 20.53.42 # so what timestretch does is to recalculate the data so the number of samples is constant 20.53.51 # erm..... 20.54.03 # like interpolation? 20.54.06 # sort of 20.54.44 # so it analyzes the frequency information and recalculates the waveform 20.54.58 # so tell me if im right or not, to make a 1000Hz signal twice as long with altering the pitch would involve making interpolations to make the waveform physically "longer" thereby keeping the pitch the same? 20.55.23 # yes 20.55.35 # right 20.55.36 # sorted 20.55.53 # and the tiny processor in the Archos isnt powerful enough to timestretch? 20.56.14 # the toughest part is to retain the "attack" portions in drums, for example 20.56.28 # oh right like the crack and snap of snare drums? 20.56.32 # simple timestretch will kind of smear it out 20.56.38 # ohh 20.56.52 # the processor is not powerful enough, no 20.57.00 # ok fair enough 20.57.01 # and the MAS can only play MP3 20.57.20 # Its just that i am fortunate to own a copy of Soundforge and that timestretches effortlessly 20.57.34 # makes it 20.57.45 # appear simple, yes 20.58.28 # mind you, the only think I dislike about timestretch is that when you increase the speed, some parts of the sound appear missing (like the snap of a snare drum) and if you make a song too slow you get a lot of echo and distortion 20.58.50 # there are algorithms that combat those artifacts 20.59.05 # do you have to do FFT for timestretching? 20.59.06 # but they are proprietary 20.59.12 # yea but even in Soundforge if you overdo it you get those said distortions 20.59.16 # Hadaka: i supppose so 20.59.51 # and you have to keep track of phase information 21.00.01 # yea 21.00.14 # tricky stuff indeed 21.00.16 # so pitch shift is really easy? 21.00.28 # yes it is, just change the sample rate 21.00.34 # ohhhhhhh 21.00.45 # ok ill shut up about timestretch now I know the ins and outs 21.00.45 # or resample the waveform (interpolate) 21.00.51 # :-) 21.01.07 # actually, the MAS can do timestretch 21.01.29 # WHAT?!?!?! 21.01.37 # you are contradicting yourself now! 21.01.46 # not really 21.01.50 # hang on... 21.01.58 # u said just now the MAS CAN timestretch! 21.01.59 # lol 21.03.03 # ((is confused)) 21.04.58 # yes it can, it is a DSP 21.05.27 # and timestretch has been implemented in the MAS3507D (the player model) 21.05.54 # as a custom DSP code downloaded into the MAS RAM memory 21.06.02 # so why can't you implement it? 21.06.13 # heh, my archos just ran out of battery, so it couldn't spin up the HD - and rockbox faded the MP3 playing to stop :) 21.06.20 # because it is proprietary and secret 21.06.24 # http://www.m3po.com/_eng/index_eng.html 21.06.38 # Hadaka: nice 21.06.56 # "Variable playback speed possible without affecting pitch" 21.07.47 # so couldn't u ask Micronas very nicely to disclose the details? 21.07.52 # not micronas 21.07.59 # terratec 21.08.16 # I thought Micronas make the chip in the Archos 21.08.31 # yes, but i assume that terratec made the dsp code for the timestretch 21.08.43 # ok 21.08.52 # and those things are called "trade secrets" in their world 21.09.11 # lol 21.09.13 # Micronas are very not-helpful if there is no money involved 21.09.31 # i have tried getting help from them before 21.09.35 # is there an EEPROM part in the Micronas chip for DSP codecs? 21.09.52 # doing timestretch code with a decent DSP isn't too difficult - if only the specs were out 21.09.54 # the first question they asked was what chip i needed hehlp with 21.10.34 # the second was how many chips i wanted to buy 21.11.53 # lol 21.12.57 # so it looks like we can only dream about timestretch :D 21.13.07 # yes, or pay for it :-) 21.13.15 # :-( 21.13.29 # ill stick to Soundforge if i wanna timestretch songs then 21.14.31 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.14.56 # <--- is timestretching a song right now 21.15.14 # have you tried MixMeister? 21.15.43 # nah I prefer Soundforge 21.15.49 # have you tried MixMeister? 21.16.06 # no 21.16.13 # coolness 21.16.18 # www.mixmeister.com 21.16.20 # Linus Could pitch be altered without affecting song duration? 21.16.38 # real cool mp3 music mixing program, with timestretch 21.16.52 # well Soundforge offers that as well 21.17.06 # tracktheripper: altering pitch without affecting duration is technically the same thing as timestretch 21.17.16 # tracktheripper: not with automatic beat mixing 21.17.21 # oh ok fair enough 21.20.26 # lol pitch shift has the same effect as slowing a record down with your fingertips 21.20.45 # try doing timestretch on a record turntable!! (laughs)) 21.22.58 # ;) 21.30.47 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 22.12.07 Quit Snorlax () 22.14.36 Join juz [0] (juz@ACBDE3BA.ipt.aol.com) 22.14.59 # Is there anybody??? 22.15.05 # i'm here 22.15.08 # yah, I'm here... 22.16.12 Join Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 22.16.26 # can you help me about rockbox?? 22.16.33 # shoot 22.18.22 # i want to update my language, i think i have to make the .lng file with the .lang but i don t know how i do 22.19.16 # you use the 'binlang' tool 22.19.40 # binlang??? 22.21.39 # binlang is a tool for converting .lang files to .lng files 22.22.09 # you use the latest daily or what? 22.22.13 # ok it is wath i want 22.22.37 # yes i use the latest daily 22.22.50 # where i can download it?? 22.23.01 # and you want the latest language file for it? 22.23.28 # no i have it thank you 22.24.05 # then what is your problem? 22.24.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.24.32 # you made a translation? 22.24.36 # i don t have binlang but i have my .lang file 22.25.50 # windows or linux? 22.26.14 # windows 22.26.19 # oh 22.26.33 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.26.40 # yes i know..... 22.27.01 # you need perl 22.28.08 # ok i download it on rockbox site 22.30.15 # need i "Setting up a minimal Win32 SDK"?? 22.30.23 # no 22.30.42 # just install Perl and download the binlang tool 22.31.35 # it is on Rockbox web site??? 22.31.41 # no 22.31.48 # try www.activestate.com 22.32.08 # ok 22.34.57 # Is it ActivePerl?? 22.36.02 # yes, that's one Perl distribution, there are many 22.37.52 Join nikkelitous [0] (~a@67.41.27.106) 22.38.01 # Hello 22.38.39 # hi 22.38.46 Quit jzoss (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.39.32 # How is everyone? 22.40.15 # fine i guess 22.41.03 Join archtelamon [0] (archtelamo@du184038.spa.ptd.net) 22.41.07 # hey guys 22.41.17 # yo 22.41.31 # how do i get a m3u playlist to startup automatically when i turn my Archos on? 22.41.33 # i m downloading ActivePerl where can i find Binlang please?? 22.41.33 # ne clue 22.41.34 # like 22.41.40 # when i start it up 22.41.42 # archtelamon: you don't 22.41.46 # goddamnit 22.41.49 # u kiddin me 22.41.52 # that would be a good idea 22.42.02 # auto-start up playlist 22.42.12 # use the resume function 22.42.18 # how 22.42.30 # im technically inept 22.43.25 # go to general settings->playback->resume, set it to Yes 22.45.02 # where can i find Binlang please?? 22.45.47 # http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/rockbox/tools/binlang?rev=1.6 22.46.01 # ok yhank you very much 22.47.52 # thanks 22.48.03 # archtelamon: was that what you wanted? 22.48.06 # ok i m understanding it is the source of a prgr which make the .lng fil with the .lang 22.48.15 # perl code 22.48.26 # use it in a DOS window 22.48.29 Quit archtelamon ("Leaving") 22.48.36 # ok with Perl 22.48.37 # perl binlang 22.49.00 # but why do perl take 10mo?? 22.49.06 # call it without arguments for a usage description 22.49.13 # ok 22.49.17 # because perl is a large language 22.49.44 # ok 22.50.20 # perl is an entire programming language - it's actually rather small for what it does 22.51.30 # ok it is the best and we can programming an archos fireware in this language 22.51.59 # and does the official fireware is in Perl?? 22.52.04 # nono 22.52.12 # it's only for the language files 22.52.19 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.52.26 # ok 22.52.31 # everything else is just plain C 22.52.41 # and wath is the language of fireware? 22.52.59 # rockbox is coded in C 22.53.18 # except for small bits in native assembler for the processor 22.53.20 # so you work in C and Perl?? 22.53.31 # Hey. I just thought of a question. Where can I see the info on the firmware scramble algorithm? 22.53.44 # juz: and bash shell scripts 22.53.47 # the original firmware is most probably coded in C as well, but there's no way to tell 22.54.21 # nikkelitous: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/rockbox/tools/scramble.c?rev=1.2 22.55.10 Quit Snorlax () 22.59.42 # so Thank you for information ,i go, Rockbox is exelent 22.59.44 Part juz 23.00.25 # LinusM: Thanks 23.00.31 # yw 23.07.16 Join Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 23.08.04 Quit Snorlax (Client Quit) 23.32.15 Join Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 23.34.00 Join rambock [0] (~jirc@pD9EBE314.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.34.30 # hi 23.35.28 # any from germany ? 23.36.52 Join Stefan98777 [0] (~jirc@chello080110099242.508.15.vie.surfer.at) 23.37.22 Quit rambock (Client Quit) 23.37.30 Join guest [0] (~jirc@pD9EBE314.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.37.38 # hi 23.37.41 Quit guest (Client Quit) 23.46.17 # ls 23.46.21 # oops 23.49.28 # hi all! 23.49.35 # hi 23.49.43 # I have another question. Is there any unified effort into figuring out the Multimedia Jukebox? I know that Rockbox doesn't support it but I wonder if there is already a group of people working on it. 23.50.07 # not that i know of 23.50.11 # If there isn't it might be a good idea to create something to bring the users together. 23.50.28 # They shouldn't all be going about it on their own. 23.50.33 # there is some discussion in a yahoo group, but nothing more than talk 23.50.37 # That is very counter-productive. 23.51.44 # let the JBMM users hack their devices 23.52.20 # the jbmm is a completely different beast 23.52.24 # Yeah. The MMJB users should do it themselves but I wonder if they are trying to do it without all on their own. 23.52.42 # i've just d/l the latest bookmark.diff; does anybody know how to apply such a *diff ?? 23.53.11 # Stefan98777: do you have the c compiler and stuff installed? 23.53.20 # I read the FAQ. I realize that it is a very different device but is the biggest problem with the MMJB the different scramble algorithm? 23.53.50 # scrambling algorithm is the least problem 23.53.50 # yes, i did. cygwin. i can compile a "normal" *ajz 23.54.07 # Stefan98777: patch < patchfile.diff 23.54.28 # nikkel.. its diff hardware 23.54.28 # now i wanna add the bookmarking feature to it with the *.diff 23.54.33 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/patch.html 23.54.34 # How sould one go about figuring out the scramble? 23.54.35 # it loads the firmware diff 23.54.43 # tnx, i'll try that :) 23.54.48 # nikkel.. the scramble is the least of the prob 23.54.54 # rockbox is not going to work on the MM 23.55.17 # I understand the differences in hardware but hardware is a fairly straight-forward setup. 23.55.34 # nikkelitous: ??? 23.55.37 # you are asking in the wrong place 23.55.42 Quit Snorlax () 23.55.45 # I'm sorry. Bad grammar. 23.55.59 # if we a. wanted to, b. had the time to c. felt the need to.. rockbox would already be ported to it 23.56.06 # LinusN: i am getting an error msg.: 'can't find file to patch at input line 1224' 23.56.35 # I know I was in the wrong place but this place is the closest thing to what I'm looking for. I don't know anywhere else to go. 23.56.47 # If I had any other leads I would head out to those. 23.57.02 # patch -pX (read the url i gave you) 23.57.27 # How would a person figure out the scramble algorithm? 23.57.41 # nikkelitous: is there one? 23.58.01 # Is there one what? A scramble algorithm? 23.58.07 # yes 23.58.30 # I have been told there is a scramble on the MMJB's firmware. I don't know how to verify it myself. 23.58.38 # first, think about how an unscrambled file would look like