--- Log for 10.03.103 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 13 days and 13 hours ago 00.00.25 # LinusN: Sounds like something you and QInter should work out in private. Kidding. As long as it works, I'm not choosie. 00.01.33 # LinusN: What a silly mistake. I'll will fix this. 00.01.39 # nikkelitous: i think winamp can use any format it wants, why should rockbox care? 00.02.29 # still, if someone writes a small bs4 parser, we can always add it to rockbox 00.02.39 # Does anyone know of any other fonts available for use with the Rockbox firmware besides what's on the Rockbox website? 00.02.55 # Norrin: any BDF font will do 00.03.10 # as long as it is smaller then 16 pixels 00.04.14 # read the text below the list of fonts on http://rockbox.haxx.se/fonts/ 00.06.37 # I think that Rockbox should accept new technology to improve itself. 00.09.56 # .B4S is a powerful new format. Easily parsed. I think it would be worth it to use it. 00.10.31 # what can be more easy to parse than m3u? 00.12.02 # LinusN: I'm confused. The colon (--> : ) is written by the cfg saver. 00.12.15 # Not much but it's easy enough to add .b4s support. 00.15.56 # do you know where i can find a b4s specification? 00.20.27 # Right now Nullsoft hasn't released one. 00.20.28 Quit GreyShadow (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.20.52 # I can write one up or I can give you a M3U and B4S that have the same files. 00.20.52 # nikkelitous: so much for easily parsed, standard, open formats 00.21.30 # It's easy enough. 00.21.34 # 95% of the Winamp documentation is about skinning, talk about silly 00.21.57 # heh, a fileformat without a specification? is that a joke? :) 00.22.00 # do you notice that i'm not a winamp fan? :-) 00.22.32 # Yeah. I figured. 00.22.33 # 00.22.33 # 12 Stones - The Way I Feel 00.22.33 DBUG Sent KICK nikkelitous to server 00.22.33 # 227325 00.22.33 # 00.22.33 Kick (#rockbox nikkelitous :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se 00.22.36 # QInter/LinusN: I could have sworn the : wasn't there the first time. Sorry. Quick question, from the filename screen for saving the CFG file, what button do you push to save? 00.22.38 # heh 00.22.46 # XML parser in rockbox :) 00.23.16 # Norrin: Try the ON button... 00.23.19 # well I guess it was coming :) 00.23.27 Join nikkelitous [0] (~a@tcsndslgw8PoolB9.tcsn.uswest.net) 00.23.30 # hehe 00.23.31 # Oops 00.23.32 # Thanks. 00.23.36 # Didn't mean to send that. 00.23.43 # Just wanted to put it in my bar. 00.23.53 # so the playlist contains information that should be in the ID3 tags 00.24.10 # Norrin: The second keyboard screen is used to enter a comment line. 00.24.35 # LinusN: well, you can have different names for the same song in different playlists ;) 00.24.37 # QInter: Was wondering what that was. Cool. 00.24.39 # All playlists do that. 00.24.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.24.55 # err - m3u is just a list of files - it carries no extra information 00.25.07 # the .M3U spec allows for the info in a comment. 00.25.10 # Have a good night everyone, keep up the great work. Cheers. 00.25.24 Quit Norrin () 00.25.26 # Hadaka: well, the winamp perverted it to contain silly comments with all kinds of meta information 00.25.44 # It always had that meta information. 00.25.54 # err 00.26.12 # But it was designed so that you don't have to read the ID3 tags. 00.26.30 # It was made so that you read 1 file and knew what you were playing. 00.26.39 # If you want to ignore that part you could. 00.26.42 # in my opinion, that info belongs in the mp3 file 00.26.57 # anyway, this all touches a bit on a subject that's not solved by ID3 or ID3v2 tags alone 00.27.16 # what people wish to play is not merely a list of files 00.27.20 # is there an .M3U specification? 00.27.27 # You could just have it find the song after the MT: me too 00.42.01 # It is supposed to be more flexible. 00.42.16 # I don't know about that though. 00.42.26 # whats more flexible than a newline seperated list of file? 00.42.27 # right now, there's no reason to implement b4s support 00.42.33 # i think it's more like XML masturbation 00.42.38 # MT: something that can have a variable amount of metadata 00.42.47 # it's a hype thing imho 00.43.09 # along with 90% of xml 00.43.10 # xml is a quite flexible format 00.43.31 # anyway, it might be considered if there starts to be a reasonable amount of b4s files around and that users are really bothered by having to convert them 00.43.43 # Hadaka: agreed 00.43.44 # what rockbox would want out of b4s is just the filenames anyway 00.44.11 # atleast until rockbox grows some real jukebox capabilities 00.44.14 # Yeah. 00.44.23 # it would almost certainly be easier to supply a tool to convert to m3u 00.44.32 # not for the user 00.44.50 # I think that making the tool might be the easiest step. 00.45.03 # I'll see if there are any out there. 00.45.20 # heh, writing one takes less than 5 minutes :) 00.45.46 # perl, python, xslt - take your pick :) 00.46.08 # i choose perl 00.46.16 # If only I knew any of those scripting languages. 00.46.20 # regex rox 00.46.37 # err, you don't want to use regexps here, you want to use XML parsing :) 00.47.05 # I only have intermediate C/C++ knowledge. 00.47.09 # i only want the filename tag, easily extracted with a regexp 00.47.19 # or grep 00.47.36 # grep | sed 00.47.42 # LinusN: nope - take into account character entities, attribute escaping, odd places for newlines and other bogosities that may be in the file 00.48.36 # Hadaka: yes, that is possible, but i don't think winamp will generate the files like that 00.49.05 # but sure, i guess there is an xml parser at CPAN 00.49.17 # There are a few other programs that are beginning to use .B4S 00.50.24 # i think B4S should be avoided until there is a specification 00.50.47 # i hate de facto file formats, like m3u for i nstance 00.54.02 # Well... I'll toss a message off to Nullsoft asking for a finished spec. 00.54.23 # do that 00.54.26 # a DTD is enough 00.54.39 # yeah, it should be enough 00.56.57 # Time to sleep, have a good night everyone. 00.57.07 Quit QInter ("Leaving") 00.57.34 # Hey. Can I get an estimate on the number of people that use RockBox? 00.58.20 # i have no clue 00.58.55 # Ahh. Ok. 00.59.09 # Are there any usage statistics that you have? 01.02.50 # only download stats 01.03.18 # Can I see them? 01.03.56 # i don't have them, bagder has them 01.04.03 # Oh ok. 01.04.53 # And one question that has been annoying me. In the features list it says that, while the Archos firmware supports VBRI header, Rockbox doesn't. What is a VBRI header? 01.06.32 # hehe: 01.06.37 # $ wc m4s2m3u.pl 01.06.37 # 8 33 210 m4s2m3u.pl 01.06.55 # heh 01.07.28 # hmh, I think I could fit this within 75 characters if I tried ;) 01.07.32 # nikkelitous: a vbri header is a header in VBR files encoded by the Fraunhofer encoder 01.07.35 # In C++ it would be at least 120 lines. 01.07.44 # Ahh. So what does it do? 01.07.59 # converts m4s to m3u? 01.08.43 # b4s but yeah. 01.08.46 # At least. 01.08.47 # it contains the number of frames in the file, and a table that tells where in the file to seek for specific points in time 01.08.56 # Ahh. 01.09.04 # oh, the header, right :) 01.09.09 # sorry :) 01.09.28 # Xing headers do the same thing, but different, and more important WITH A PUBLIC SPECIFICATION 01.09.29 # No I meant that the converter would be at least 120 lines in C++ 01.09.39 # Thats a good thing. 01.09.56 # i have written code that parses vbri headers 01.10.09 # i just haven't integrated it into Rockbox 01.10.10 # So rockbox supports the Xing but not the VBRI? 01.10.32 # soon vbri too, without the Table Of Contents 01.10.40 # So people who use the VBRI can't FF a file? 01.10.49 # Until your code gets in. 01.10.56 # they can, it will not be 100% accurate 01.14.47 # I must say that XML parsing with perl is trivial as hell :) 01.14.53 # nice 01.15.14 # you needed an extra package? 01.15.23 # use XML::Parser; my $p = new XML::Parser(Style => 'Subs'); $p->parse(STDIN); sub entry { my (undef,undef,@a) = @_; lc shift @a eq "playstring" ? print "".(shift @a)."\n" : shift @a; } 01.15.24 # or was it part of the distro? 01.15.33 # XML::Parser should be part of the base nowadays, I think 01.15.38 # nice indeed 01.16.03 # Hadaka: tidy it up a little, and submit it 01.16.33 # oh come on, it's a 5 minute hack, let it rest in peace :) 01.16.48 # :-) 01.17.17 # my clock stopped at 6:34 01.17.38 # a 6:34-minute hack 01.17.46 # :-) 01.18.29 # heh :) 01.27.52 # The rockbock source is well written and very hackable. Thank you! 01.28.45 # ScottE: thank you, we really try to KISS it 01.28.50 # s/ock/ox of course... eep 01.28.55 # Keep It Simple Stupid 01.29.16 # Well, I see some really bad code in my day job. I wish this is the sort of stuff I got to see more often :) 01.30.34 # we see rockbox as a kind of therapy in that respect :-) 01.30.48 # it's nice to be able to do it right for once 01.30.58 # I can understand that! 02.07.44 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 02.12.29 Part LinusN 02.20.43 Join Zakk1 [0] (jirc@AC8DF518.ipt.aol.com) 02.21.05 # Hello 02.22.05 # I have a question about rockbox 02.22.39 # hi. i have a statement about questions regarding rockbox. 02.23.00 # It's just a simple one 02.23.14 # so is this 02.23.22 # What? 02.23.34 # ask your questions instead of announcing them. 02.23.44 # :p 02.23.53 # Sorry, I though it wasn't working correctly 02.24.06 # thats ok, i'm just being silly 02.24.18 # lots of people come on and announce the fact that they have questions 02.24.39 # Okay, well my question was this: Does the accidental 'harddrive password error' happen often, or just sometimes, or not at all often? 02.24.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.24.56 # It's sort of keeping me from upgrading my Jukebox Recorder 02.25.03 # afaik, that was something that happened durring a particular stage of development 02.25.11 # i don't think i've heard of it happening any time recently 02.25.22 # and it's not hard to fix when it does, the instructions are there somewhere 02.25.22 # So it's basically a fixed bug? 02.25.29 # Yes yes. 02.25.37 # it's never happened to me 02.25.53 # Just the thought of disassembling my Archos, buying an adapter, all that he-haw 02.26.17 # And it's reversible and all, right? So I could remove it without a trace? 02.26.18 # oh you don't even need to do all that i don't think 02.26.31 # there's a patch to the linux driver that'll do it automatically when you hook it up to USB 02.26.34 # That's all I thought you could do. 02.26.44 # Even if you're not on Linux? 02.26.54 # i imagine there's something that's similarly easy for windows 02.27.20 # I'm not thinking much of it anymore 02.27.30 # and if all else fails, you could always make a little linux installation to fix it with before going out and buying stuff and taking things appart etc 02.27.33 # heh 02.27.36 # Seems there's just more and more people talking about how excellent it is ;) 02.27.56 # and yeah very few people ever experienced it, and like i said, i haven't heard of anybody recently having it 02.28.23 # i wouldn't worry about it 02.28.32 # and yes, rockbox is excellent 02.28.34 # * PsycoXul loves it 02.28.52 # Yeah it looks awesomely excellent 02.29.15 # And so if by any chance my Archos died at anytime, even after installation and uninstallation of RockBox, if Best Buy interrogated the thing, would they know that Rockbox was installed? 02.29.31 # Y'know, still have that 4-year warranty! 02.29.43 # all i've heard about bestbuy servicing the archos' 02.29.55 # is that somebody took a player to them 02.29.58 # and they gave them back a recorder 02.30.02 # and then they took the recorder in 02.30.02 # They don't even take it out of the box you return it in 02.30.05 # and got an FM recorder back 02.30.05 # heh 02.30.09 # Cool 02.30.16 # Yeah that was the guarantee 02.30.38 # "If it gets outdated and dies within the 4-year service plan, we'll replace it with the latest model!" 02.30.44 # i don't think they'll even know how to see that rockbox is on there or is anything other than what should be on there 02.30.54 # yeah 02.30.56 # i need to take mine in 02.31.01 # it's not charging the batteries anymore 02.31.08 # What do you have? 02.31.12 # i've got a studio20 02.31.13 # Recorder 20gb? 02.31.16 # basically just a 20g player 02.31.17 # studio eh? 02.31.22 # so maybe i'll get a 20g FM recorder back 02.31.23 # heh 02.31.27 # be a nice upgrade 02.31.29 # Perhaps 02.31.31 # Zakk1: To downgrade from rockbox, all you have to do is delete the .rockbox directory and ajbrec.ajz file. That's it... no traces left, and it will boot factory firmware like before. 02.31.41 # But, you won't want to... :) 02.31.42 # Cool 02.31.46 # I know I wont 02.31.54 # BUt I will use rolo occasionally 02.32.04 # For recording purposes only. 02.32.37 # Oh, and to make sure you get the FM Recorder upgrade.... ;) there's a way to do so 02.32.49 # Remeber this 02.33.11 # bbl dinner 02.33.15 # Beforehand go into the aisle, pick out all the Studio models and stuff 'em behind a rack 02.33.25 # They won't know about it 02.33.26 # hehe 02.33.38 # What they gotta do ;) 02.33.49 # i sorta doubt they even have them anymore 02.33.54 # but i'll be sure to check when i bring it in hehe 02.34.00 # I know I didn't see em recently 02.34.07 # TRy and stuff the Recorders too 02.34.20 # Even try to get a Multimedia lol 02.34.50 # heheheh 02.35.01 # yeah but the multimedia doesn't support rockbox 02.35.10 # Forget it! 02.35.12 # and probably won't, since it's an entirely different machine 02.35.25 # anyway, my salad's waiting for me 02.35.27 # They have to exchange it for whatever they have that's the cheapest and lowest model 02.35.30 # Alright 02.35.54 # If the FM Recorder is that, then may it be. 02.39.50 Part ScottE 02.40.16 # Oh and by the way, anyone, do you plan to add a record feature to the Rockbox? 02.42.20 # its there already? 02.44.33 # Not that I know of 02.44.40 # From what you said anyhows 02.44.58 # By 'you' I mean the website, rockbox.haxx.se 02.47.43 # Looks like you guys've come a long way. 02.48.26 # From disassembling the code, to playing 4 seconds of audio, to scrolling some text, to having the entire thing 5x better than the Archos firmware. 03.00.08 # er, main menu, recording :) 03.00.21 # In RockBox? 03.00.28 # yes indeed 03.00.34 Quit Zakk1 ("Leaving") 03.00.40 # heh 03.00.46 Join Zakk1 [0] (jirc@AC8DF518.ipt.aol.com) 03.00.53 # Opps 03.00.59 # In v1.4? 03.01.33 # Or the not-yet released 1.5? 03.02.12 # oh, 1.4 is ancient :) 03.02.19 # its the not yet released 2.0 03.02.24 # that is fully released 03.02.25 # :) 03.02.27 # Oh heh can't wait 03.02.33 # It's release? 03.02.35 # well download a daily build 03.02.39 # Oh 03.02.59 # Is it buggy? 03.03.56 # And how do I? Is it that .tar.gz file or whatever, or the plain .ajbrec? 03.04.10 # what model do you have? 03.04.16 # Recorder 20GB 03.04.36 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/auto/build-recorder/ajbrec.ajz 03.04.51 # Let me see for myself 03.05.02 # What new features? 03.05.49 # So if one wanted, could I put in a firmware folder, running 2.0 and be able to have 1.4 in there as well as Archos Original? 03.05.56 # yep 03.06.07 # its not 'officially' 2.0 03.06.18 # but theres not much missing over it 03.06.19 # Well, the next step up ;) 03.06.29 # and the stuff that is in there works a lot better than 1.4 03.06.40 # Still a screensaver? 03.06.49 # all the bugs that have been fixed since 1.4 are in there 03.06.52 # and thats a lot 03.06.56 # Heh I like that... a SCREENSAVER... wow 03.07.30 Quit nikkelitous () 03.08.01 # So there's all the same features, if not new ones, and mainly bugs fixed, including the non-record one? 03.11.17 Join nikkelitous [0] (~a@tcsndslgw8PoolB9.tcsn.uswest.net) 03.11.34 # I HATE Windows 03.13.08 # Why? 03.13.18 # Oh oh oh you wanna switch to Mac? 03.13.51 # OSX seems pretty nice 03.13.59 # Haha 03.14.04 # Got a pretty hilario video 03.14.11 # i liked that i could pop up a term and run bash 03.14.12 # Parody 03.14.13 # http://home.attbi.com/~webposts/Switch-384.wmv 03.14.20 # watch it lol 03.16.27 # heh 03.16.52 # Gets me every time 03.16.58 # http://www.ubergeek.tv/switchlinux 03.17.00 # i like that one better 03.17.15 # here's another paradoy specific to mac http://www.ubergeek.tv/switchback 03.18.38 # Oh yeah seen them too 03.19.09 # heh 03.19.13 # If you wanted to see a downright corny something, hang on a sec... 03.19.15 # "my dad used to beat me... with his.. PC" 03.19.36 # ha 03.19.49 # I just don't see why everybody doesn't run Linux 03.20.08 # He he, I guess then they'd all be supervillians 03.20.18 # I'm steve, and I'm a supervillian. 03.20.26 # Is that right? Steve? 03.20.53 # yeah 03.22.34 # go to onetrick.net, on the side there's a Switch thing, click the '1' and watch em and then the '2' and watch em 03.22.43 # A bit off the 'Switch' point, but... 03.23.13 # I like Macs. 03.23.16 # OSX is cool. 03.24.19 # Not bad, I actually might like it if I had it 03.24.32 # I especially like how it's unix based. 03.24.50 # Seems near creash-proof 03.25.08 # Just Like XP (JLXP) 03.25.18 # heh 03.25.19 # XP sucks 03.25.19 # XP seems less crash proof than OSX though 03.25.29 # What are you running 03.25.33 # XP still crashes and does dumb shit a lot 03.25.35 # i use linux 03.25.40 # my mom and stepdad both have XP boxes though 03.25.50 # it's better than win98, which is what they had before 03.25.51 # Hm 03.25.59 # but not so much better as to call it near crash-proof 03.26.00 # heh 03.26.02 # I use XP but only cause it plays my games. 03.26.13 # linux plays my games 03.26.16 # and better than windows at that 03.26.31 # but i only play a few games 03.26.32 # TuxRacer 03.26.35 # actualy only atitd lately 03.26.38 # fun fun fun 03.26.45 # i used to play q3 and q3ut2 a lot 03.26.49 # but got sick of it 03.26.50 # heh 03.26.54 # Move to Iceland 03.27.17 # Do you 'like' Linux, Psyco? 03.28.09 # I have to run again. 03.28.10 # i love linux 03.28.10 # heh 03.28.13 Quit nikkelitous () 03.28.17 # Profusely? 03.28.23 # i started with redhad in march of 98 03.28.26 # redhat even 03.28.31 # and currently am running LFS 03.28.34 # Stuck with it all this time? 03.28.37 # (linux-from-scratch, if you don't know) 03.28.51 # in other words, i've built my own linux system from scratch heh 03.28.57 # Cool 03.28.57 # compiling every piece of software myself 03.29.08 # indeed, i'd say i love it profusely :p 03.29.16 # haha 03.29.21 # now i'm more frustrated with the primitive state of computers in general than my OS 03.29.27 # That's completely respectable 03.29.34 # nothing i can do about that though 03.29.44 # I like... the erm, screensavers, yeah.... 03.29.50 # heh 03.29.55 # i don't 03.29.56 # Uh huh they are 'in tha howse' 03.29.59 # i just use a blank screen 03.30.01 # :p 03.30.06 # They're different! 03.30.18 # too much CPU to use for something that only runs when nobody's looking 03.30.29 # Oh wow 03.30.38 # And when no one's looking, the computer's doing nothing. 03.30.45 # not necessarily 03.30.46 # :p 03.30.48 # So what's the biggie dealie? 03.30.55 # Like burning my backup archos at 6X 03.31.48 # So what do you do for the Rockbox team, Psyco? 03.32.09 # uh 03.32.11 # I like the look of your double-line-test thingy 03.32.20 # i sent a couple little patches some time ago 03.32.21 # heh 03.32.33 # Thus you're a member? 03.32.37 # i wrote some code for other crap on my own that they looked at and gave me credit for, and probably didn't do anything... 03.32.44 # er probably didn't do anything with 03.32.54 # and uh contributed ideas and encouragement 03.32.54 # Hey could I do that lol 03.32.55 # heh 03.33.08 # and yeah i've done testing of things like that and stuff 03.33.18 # and testing in general :p 03.33.23 DBUG Sent KICK Zakk1 to server 03.33.23 # 4I would love to test. 03.33.23 Kick (#rockbox Zakk1 :Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se 03.33.37 Join Zakk1 [0] (jirc@AC8DF518.ipt.aol.com) 03.33.38 # heh :p 03.33.41 # Oops 03.33.52 # Sorry logbot, heh 03.34.33 # be RIGHT back 03.34.46 # n/m 03.35.57 # The "suspicious figure" video was borderline retarded. Eat a bowl of dicks. Thanks. 03.36.01 # anonymous 12/10 03.36.03 # heh 03.37.17 # i'm downloading that one right now 03.40.52 # heh 03.40.55 # it was pretty dumb :p 03.40.56 # It's okay 03.41.06 # Last one's funny 03.41.09 # Did you see it? 03.41.14 # almost done 03.41.23 # d/ling? 03.41.27 # or playing? 03.41.31 # dling 03.41.42 # Not that funny but oh well 03.41.46 # Off the topic too 03.42.17 # hehe 03.42.28 # reminds me of a guy i know in spain 03.42.35 # he's "gay" 03.42.54 # but doesn't like getting it up the butt 03.43.01 # and has never done it 03.43.04 # nor has he done it to anybody else 03.43.05 # heh 03.43.10 # Weird 03.43.13 # or afaik had any sexual experience with another guy 03.43.14 # heh 03.43.35 # My name is ____, and,.... I'm gay. 03.44.41 # Running man's pertty good 03.44.47 # "FIDDLE STICKS!!!" 03.45.18 # Where do they get the Mac Switch music anyways? 03.45.24 # I like it, it's catch 03.45.30 # dunno 03.45.35 # i never seen any of the real commercials that i recall 03.45.36 # heh 03.45.44 # Like, du dum da dum dum, da dada da da da da la dada da 03.45.55 # da dada tada 03.46.03 # yah-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta 03.46.31 # So you say the HD Password has been last seen near a year ago? 03.46.47 # afaik, something like that yeah 03.46.54 # good 03.47.06 # maybe you wanna search the mailing list... 03.47.09 # And recording's implemented into the Daily Build's version? 03.47.13 # yes 03.47.34 # it's still not full-featured, but it's there and works, and works better than the archos firmware according to what i've heard lately 03.47.53 # So it's NOT the same as the 1.4 version of Rockbox! 03.48.04 # oh definately not 03.48.06 # With a few added features, is it? 03.48.10 # a lot's changed since 1.4 03.48.10 # It's way different? 03.48.14 # well i mean 03.48.16 # And a lot's missing? 03.48.17 # it's not like totally new 03.48.24 # just a lot of new stuff 03.48.26 # heh 03.48.27 # But are the old things there? 03.48.30 # and bugfixes and stuff 03.48.40 # So is it OLD with BUGFIXES and new FEATURES? 03.48.47 # Or NEW with NOTHING OLD 03.48.49 # i think they're planning on releasing 2.0 here in the near future 03.48.57 # it's not a rewrite, if thats what you're asking 03.49.05 # it's still the same firmware, just with new stuff and bugfixes 03.49.06 # Just anything added to it? 03.49.09 # Great 03.49.12 # SAme games? 03.49.16 # afaik... 03.49.22 # the player doesn't have games so heh 03.49.27 # Yes 03.49.34 # Snake, tetris and sokoban 03.52.11 # Thanks a bunch for all the answers to my questions and for occupying me while I was bored 03.52.23 # I have to go for a bit now, but I might pop in a bit later 03.54.14 # hehe ok 03.54.15 # np 03.54.20 # `thanksagainbyebyenow 03.54.25 Quit Zakk1 ("Leaving") 04.24.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.28.08 Join Zakk1 [0] (jirc@AC8DF518.ipt.aol.com) 04.29.05 # Just so you know, I'm here. 04.29.33 # heh 04.29.36 # hi 04.29.52 # Hi again 04.35.31 # Did you say that you have a studio model, Psyco? 04.36.27 # yeah 04.36.46 # So that differs greatly Rockboxwise from the Recorder 04.37.02 # With the bigger dots, and different interface right? 04.37.05 # the studio's just a player 04.37.22 # just like the original archos jukebox 6000 04.37.30 # You're right. Get it exchanged hehe 04.37.39 # hehe 04.37.45 # yeah 04.37.50 # not just bigger dots 04.37.54 # it's charcell 04.38.00 # 2 lines of 11 chars 04.38.02 # Yeah that SUCKS 04.38.20 # The recorder, though, has like 7 lines and stuff 04.38.48 # the recorder has a bitmap screen 04.38.57 # so the number of lines depends on the font you're using hehe 04.39.11 # Remeber the tip I gave you - hide all Studios and Recorders if the FM recorder is available. And if it's not hide anything inferior to the top-of-the-liniest model you can get ;) 04.39.23 # hehe 04.39.46 # actualy i think the bestbuy here keeps them all locked up 04.39.54 # but i'm not sure, they've changed stuff a few times 04.39.56 # Not at mine! 04.40.24 # heh 04.40.29 # man i came up with this thing on my guitar 04.40.32 # That's unfair. 04.40.38 # and then i used a software drum machine to make up a drum track for it... 04.40.43 # and when i try to play along with it 04.40.46 # it really doesn't go at all 04.40.46 # heh 04.40.53 # What doesnt? 04.41.00 # On the Studio you mean? 04.41.02 # no 04.41.10 # nothing to do with the studio 04.41.19 # What are you talking about? 04.41.22 # studio's just a dumb name they gave that, it's really just a player with a 20G harddrive 04.41.28 # Yeah 04.41.54 # i'm talking a thing i came up with on my guitar, and a drum track i made in a software drum machine to play it along with, and the 2 just don't mesh when i finaly tried to play along with the drum track heh 04.42.17 # Not fitting together eh? 04.42.39 # nope 04.42.57 # You must've heard it beforehand that it shouldn't fit... 04.43.23 # heh 04.43.34 # nah i came up with a beat while playing it that seemed like it'd go 04.43.40 # and so then i sat down and did the beat 04.43.51 # though i doubt the implimentation was the same as i had in my head exactly 04.43.51 # And it didn't go? 04.43.57 # Ha 04.44.05 # and getting the bpm right i dunno heh 04.44.07 Join CW-EGM92 [0] (~CW-EGM92@CPE00045af8ed32-CM014340000355.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 04.44.31 # Tough stuff 04.44.35 # Hey guys 04.44.59 # umm do u guys do firmware for multimedia players also? 04.45.02 # Hello 04.45.06 # No they don't sorry 04.46.07 # damn, I just sold my JB and I was wondering if you guys still did, you guys really should!!, ARCHOS FIRMWARE LICKS SACK! 04.46.18 # I'll second that 04.46.19 # heh 04.46.25 # I have the Recorder 04.46.27 # the jbmm is a totally different machine 04.46.32 # it needs whole new firmware 04.46.36 # Not a SINGLE UPDATE since June 8th, the release date 04.46.58 # Are you gonna be working on that, Psyco? 04.47.00 # Yea 04.47.01 # Zakk1: some people get newer firmware on the units they buy than what archos has on their website :p 04.47.20 # Or does Rockbox have enough on it's hand trying to squash bugs on Jukebox Players and Recorders? 04.47.29 # 1.28 it ships with 04.47.34 # heh 04.47.35 # 1.27d is the lastest 04.47.39 # lol 04.47.42 # BUt 04.47.45 # i'm not doing anything :p 04.47.50 # They sayt hat 1.27d is the same as the 1.28 04.47.54 # i'm working on music and odd technology from dreams :p 04.47.59 # I meant, like the Rockbox team 04.48.06 # Psyco get busy on my firmware!! 04.48.11 # lol 04.48.13 # heh 04.48.21 # He don't so that stuff 04.48.23 # the rockbox team has no plans to support the jbmm 04.48.30 # they don't even have one, afaik 04.48.31 # heh 04.48.39 # lol 04.48.47 # poor sobs.... 04.48.56 # One meaning a JBMM or one meaning a plan? 04.49.08 # one meaning a jbmm 04.49.18 # i meaning that's dumb 04.49.22 # I know why though 04.49.35 # 'Cause they can't use Rockbox firmware on it! 04.49.45 # heh 04.49.47 # personally 04.49.50 # What's the point in getting something not even your own software runs on? 04.49.59 # i wouldn't get one till like the 2nd or 3rd generation of such devices 04.50.07 # One guy got it 04.50.10 # that screen is just too small 04.50.10 # Hated it 04.50.11 # heh 04.50.35 # Yes 04.50.36 # and whats up with it's only supported resolution 04.50.42 # and only supported format 04.50.43 # lol 04.50.43 # But outputted to a TV, excellente 04.50.45 # its kinda lame 04.50.47 # my pda can play more 04.50.53 # and has a bigger screen 04.50.57 # http://www.epinions.com/content_91133808260 04.50.58 # though no TV out 04.50.58 # heh 04.51.04 # acutally ur pba cant play more 04.51.09 # but it only cost $114 04.51.25 # What is it? 04.51.25 # tell me when was the last time you wtched a full anime series 2.9gb on your pda? 04.51.31 # LOL 04.51.34 # CW-EGM92: my pda can play divx AND mpeg 04.51.40 # and mp3 and ogg and wav... 04.51.45 # What PDS? 04.51.46 # CW-EGM92: as soon as i get it back... 04.51.47 # PDA 04.51.54 # yes, same here, I can also play .APE audio files 04.51.54 # CW-EGM92: i've got a network card for it :p 04.52.10 # it's being rma'd right now 04.52.15 # networks only reach soo far 04.52.31 # browsing the web while streaming oggs, it locked up, and it's never booted again 04.52.35 # heh 04.52.41 # What brand/model PEE DEE AYE? 04.52.47 # AYE=EHH 04.52.59 # casio cassiopeia be-300 04.53.02 # heh 04.53.12 # Cassiopeia 04.53.15 # You liar 04.53.22 # the cheapest wannabe pocketpc that's not a one 04.53.26 # but almost is 04.53.26 # heh 04.53.35 # i was running expod on it 04.53.37 # using pocketie 04.53.38 # Cassiopeia? 04.53.40 # and gsplayer 04.53.54 # cassiopeia is a line 04.53.59 # lol 04.53.59 # I can't even spell that and it's a PDA? 04.54.07 # including the cheap be-300 "pocket manager" and a few pocketpc's i think 04.54.24 # heh 04.54.26 # SO 04.54.29 # I have a Compaq Jordan 5650 big screen but no fuckign blue tooth for it too expensive 04.54.29 # it's the name of a constellation 04.54.35 # You can fit a DivX movie on a 16MB PDA? 04.54.47 # it's got a compactflash slot :p 04.54.48 # nope lol 04.54.54 # and i got a network card for it 04.54.55 # heh 04.54.58 # BUT I CAN FIT A 900MB XVID ON MY ARCHOS 04.54.58 # like i said 04.55.01 # oh on a 32MB CF card I see 04.55.15 # Lol more like a Microdrive 04.55.18 # a WIRED network card since i never leave the house and don't have a WAP 04.55.23 # heh 04.55.28 # nah i just play it from an SMB share 04.55.29 # :p 04.55.40 # actualy i couldn't quite get it to work before it died on me 04.55.42 # SMB share? 04.55.44 # but others have heh 04.55.48 # I gotta catch up with the times 04.55.57 # yes, SMB you know the protocol windows uses for sharing files... 04.56.02 # NOT REALLY 04.56.09 # "windows shares" 04.56.14 Join _seb_ [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 04.56.15 # is what most people call it 04.56.21 # since most windows users don't know it's called SMB 04.56.21 # heh 04.56.28 # You think I care about SMB when Archos firmware licks sacs? 04.56.43 # hey honestly SMB sucks 04.56.44 # I SECOND THAT! 04.56.51 # Thankyou 04.56.55 # Even HE seconds that 04.56.55 # my linux kernel and glibc support >2G files... 04.57.03 # my samba supports >2G files 04.57.08 # winxp witnh NTFS supports >2G files 04.57.11 # but SMB doesn't 04.57.28 # so i have to use ftp or some other lame work-around to copy >2G files between my linux box and the windows boxes 04.57.31 # it's lame 04.58.09 # I PUISS ON YOUL LINUX KERNAL! 04.58.14 # i dunno why samba even support >2G files if the protocol it's the linux implimentation for doesn't... heh 04.58.53 # Okay listen here 04.59.09 # I am computer smart so stop making me sound dumb 04.59.21 # i second that!! 04.59.27 # NO you don't 04.59.34 # Yes you do 04.59.35 # new simpsons bbl 04.59.36 # :p 04.59.40 # NO 04.59.47 # Wher are you Psyco? 05.00.00 # I SEEN THAT SIMPSONS HOURS AGO 05.00.04 # it sucks 05.00.04 # Lol 05.00.07 # what happens? 05.00.15 # krust wins the vote 05.00.21 # by getting the southern guy drunk 05.00.35 # I think I'll watch it 05.00.38 # lol bbl 05.00.44 # see if you're right 05.00.45 # and lisa uses a "paper clip" which is a holy tool in the congress to make the planes stop from gonig over their house 05.00.48 # Stay here eh 05.00.54 # ok i will 05.01.03 # I wanta see you afterwards 05.01.08 # But I need to watch it now 05.01.20 # there's a plane that crashs through the house and krusty get's a bill passed in 3 hours with the help of a janitor 05.01.25 # ok 05.01.26 # lol 05.01.30 # That's enuff 05.01.34 # I'll remember that 05.01.39 # lol ;) see you in a bit 05.01.50 # BUT HOLD ON!! 05.02.03 # I HAVENT GIVN U ALL OF THE PLOT HOLES! 05.11.55 # Ok 05.11.57 # commercial 05.12.17 # So the planes fly over the house righ 05.12.36 # and they wanna sell it, then homer puts up the "krusty for Kongress' sign 05.12.42 # And then commercial 05.12.45 # What next? 05.13.09 # Hurry hurry 05.13.37 # Commercial breaks almost over 05.14.09 # finish up if your typing 05.14.18 # I'm leaving in ten seconds 05.14.32 # 5 05.14.36 # 4 05.14.42 # lol 05.14.45 # umm next 05.14.49 # hurry 05.14.49 # is he talksto the people 05.14.56 # krusty talks to the public 05.14.57 # funny 05.14.59 # haha 05.15.00 # Not yet 05.15.03 # ok 05.15.04 # watch at the end 05.15.10 # At the end? 05.15.16 # homer is gonig to drink the sounthern guy under the table 05.15.25 # and bart isgoing to black ale some guy with a tape 05.15.26 # Okay 05.15.35 # got to go 05.15.43 # commercials over 05.16.15 # k 05.21.55 # okay 05.22.00 # next commercial break 05.22.21 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 05.24.40 Quit Zakk1 ("Leaving") 05.31.59 Join Zakk1 [0] (jirc@AC8DF518.ipt.aol.com) 05.32.13 # That wasn't very good episode 05.34.32 # Pretty dumb if you ask me 05.34.38 # But there were funny parts 05.35.36 # Thanks for giving it away CW lol 05.43.10 # lol 05.43.13 # i know 05.43.14 # im goof 05.43.16 # good 05.43.51 # Where do you live? 05.43.54 # Canada 05.44.26 # So you are 'ahead of the times' literally 05.45.27 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.80) 05.45.40 # ?????? 05.46.12 # You saw it before me 05.46.20 # Thus, ahead of the time(s) 05.48.27 # hmm 05.48.30 # i liked it 05.48.31 # heh 05.48.53 # It was funny the part when he talked to them all 05.48.56 # and plot holes... in the simpsons? thats just silly :p 05.49.13 # thats almost as bad as complaining about something happening thats unrealistic 05.49.14 # heh 05.49.22 # Then marge came up with a finger and ointed out something 05.49.32 # ointed-pointed 05.52.18 Quit Zakk1 ("Leaving") 05.58.48 Join Zakk1 [0] (jirc@AC8A9FFE.ipt.aol.com) 05.58.55 # Psyco 05.59.02 # Need a bit o help 05.59.09 # Going to upgrade rightnow 05.59.26 # So the .ajz file goes in root directory right? 06.00.06 # Unzip the thing to the directory of archos? 06.00.35 # here goes 06.00.39 # rename the original .ajz file to something else .ajz 06.00.47 # and name the rockbox one to the same name as the original 06.01.06 # There was no original 06.01.07 # ajbrec.ajz is it? 06.01.11 # yes 06.01.16 # hmm 06.01.22 # Unless it's hidden 06.01.37 # not there 06.01.38 # you've got 1.28 in rom? 06.01.43 # yes 06.01.56 # I unzipped 1.4 to try it 06.02.00 # weird, i thought it was a file that came on it heh 06.02.06 # heh why? 06.02.07 # Im putting in 2.0 in a sec 06.02.10 # ah 06.02.11 # heh 06.02.19 # oh man here goes 06.02.22 # im skeptical 06.05.01 # it works! 06.07.13 # kool 06.09.37 # [Lag: 6.66] 06.09.40 Part mecraw 06.09.45 # EVIL!!! 06.09.52 # :p 06.10.04 # EXCELLENT 06.10.06 # I like it 06.10.14 # But does 2.0 add in the key lables? 06.14.07 # key lables? 06.14.33 # Hang on 06.14.46 # For the three function keys 06.16.42 # this is awesome 06.22.20 # seeya thanks again 06.24.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.25.11 Quit Zakk1 ("Leaving") 08.00.34 Quit CW-EGM92 ("(i was using polaris) version:[2.05c] webpage:[http://www.polaris-central.com]") 08.03.57 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@12-252-136-249.client.attbi.com) 08.17.05 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.24.11 Join Zagor- [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 08.24.31 Nick Zagor- is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 08.25.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.40.35 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@213.70.99.17) 08.41.34 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 08.43.17 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 08.48.53 Quit adi|home ("Client Exiting") 08.58.40 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-11.216-194-24-255.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 09.54.28 # moin 09.59.42 # hi 10.02.43 # Moinsens! :D 10.17.51 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 10.17.59 # morning to all 10.25.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.34.28 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.34.48 # yo LinusN 10.34.54 # i want to report a bug 10.35.00 # go away :-) 10.35.15 # the recording does not work in 1.4 10.35.17 # :-) 10.35.26 # i tried several times 10.35.39 #>> "kick linusn" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.35.42 # :-) 10.36.03 # Linus! :D 10.36.06 # Hello Linus! 10.36.10 # nice way to start the week: two of those "bugs" within a few hours 10.36.13 # I SALUTE THEE! 10.36.15 # :) 10.36.19 # * dwihno got a new font 10.36.25 # Which makes the term all spiffy 10.36.26 # hi dwihno! 10.36.42 # any starka såsen lately? 10.36.52 # Not really, I'm waiting to buy you a kebab :) 10.37.26 # hi LinusN!! 10.37.35 # Hola quel 10.38.18 # hi jose 10.38.19 # well.. until linus came. all of you were asleep... 10.38.29 # hi dwihno 10.38.30 # :P 10.38.30 # i feel popular :-) 10.38.37 # haha 10.38.45 # no LinusN, they all want your head 10.41.45 # * LinusN hides 10.42.01 # Zagor: the slow xing vbrfixer was a bug 10.42.29 # LinusN: oh, nice. how fast is it now? 10.42.31 # now it isn't *that* slow anymore 10.42.43 # but it still takes a wile 10.42.46 # while 10.44.05 # 20 seconds for 5 megabytes 10.45.08 # with nice % progress meter 10.45.25 # Linus is the hero, never forget that quel... 10.45.34 # the hero! 10.45.41 # * LinusN wants flush() and on-play menu 10.46.41 # dwihno: even heros can get their head chopped off their body ;) 10.47.03 # i had a look at the ID3edit patch 10.47.16 # not very beautiful 10.57.05 # :-( 11.02.13 Part Zagor 11.03.46 # Hmm 11.04.07 # LinusN: Getting a 250 gig disk to work in an external USB2 case will require some black magic? 11.07.02 # dwihno: black magic? why? 11.07.51 # it should work if the controller in the case supports those large disks 11.13.02 # Hmm 11.13.10 # That's black magic! :/ 11.13.17 # I don't think there's such cases. 11.14.53 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 11.17.25 # dwihno: 250 GB??? 11.17.30 # for what? 11.18.29 # quelsaruk: I need somewhere to store my goats 11.20.59 # do you have goats? or Godzillas?? 11.21.17 # The name is Gojira! ;D 11.21.24 # ;) 11.21.30 # btw 11.21.45 # i have my new case 11.21.46 # :) 11.21.48 # it's cool 11.22.14 # but i dunno why my win XP at home says it has an error and can't install the case :( 11.22.16 # Very cool? 11.22.23 # is the disk formatted? 11.22.36 # of course 11.22.37 # :) 11.22.47 # i can use it in the laptop 11.22.51 # and at work 11.29.42 Join Bagder [0] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) 11.31.40 # yo Bagder! 11.32.22 # Linus: Have you seen ATA-133 capable USB2 boxes? 11.33.27 # hey ho Linus the man 11.33.55 # dwihno: i haven't looked 11.43.31 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Philipp@212-204-020-105.dsl1.versanet.de) 11.44.01 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@62.4.7.1) 11.49.50 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 11.49.54 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12.02.30 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB54070.ipt.aol.com) 12.02.57 # MORNING 12.02.58 # :-) 12.03.24 # morning 12.03.35 # morning Badg 12.03.37 # how are you? 12.03.49 # I'm just fine 12.03.56 # you? 12.04.00 # HELLO! D: 12.04.00 # very well 12.04.07 # Just been snapping with my digital camera 12.04.18 # Hi Dwihno 12.05.15 # I still like the concept of the Archos Multimedia :-) 12.05.18 # Hi track! :D 12.05.31 # ello 12.05.31 # :D 12.05.33 # All 200 gig disks are ATA-133 by law? :) 12.05.41 # erm..... 12.05.43 # dunno 12.05.56 # dwihno: yes 12.06.20 # older ata standards just can't handle that large disks 12.06.34 # Where's the boundaries? 12.06.43 # 128gb i think 12.06.44 # 128 GB 12.06.46 # im looking forward for the 2.5Tb drives to come out 12.06.51 # the holographic ones 12.06.52 # but they call that 138GB 12.06.58 # since they count badly 12.07.15 # badly == they use ISO prefixes 12.07.26 # 1k == 1000 12.07.31 # yes, and that's bad 12.07.43 # since megabytes and gigabytes aren't in all other occations 12.07.49 # Why can't 1000Mb = 1Gb rather than 1024Mb = 1Gb 12.07.55 # Linus: I found a fishy thing! HD Caviar SE/200GB UIDE100 7200rpm 8MB cache 12.08.03 # tracktheripper: because of how computers work 12.08.20 # yes but when you think about it, 1000Mhz = 1Ghz 12.08.36 # tracktheripper: yes, but that is a different thing 12.08.54 # but its still using "megas" and "gigas" 12.08.56 # heehee 12.09.01 # when it comes to memory size, it isn't practical to use 1000 12.09.18 # thing is, you use Kbytes, not kbytes 12.09.24 # lol 12.09.27 # 1K == 1024 12.09.30 # 1k == 1000 12.09.40 # they reckon the 1Thz prosessor will be out in 10 years 12.10.32 # but i agree that it may be confusing for "normal" people 12.10.42 # heehee 12.11.06 # * Bagder learns that is nice 12.11.25 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.11.26 # thead? 12.11.34 # Bagder: tried to print a long table? 12.11.37 # yes 12.11.41 # i think he means Thread Zagor 12.11.43 # ah 12.11.49 # but IE doesn't grok it, only mozilla ;-) 12.11.54 # really? 12.12.02 # why am I not surprised? 12.12.51 # I saw in Sourceforge something about a .B4S playlist file? 12.12.56 Join TotMacherr [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 12.13.00 # wots wrong with .M3U? 12.13.12 # .m3u is plain stupid 12.13.15 # tracktheripper: XML is c0o0ol :-) 12.13.16 # for anything but song names 12.13.25 # ohhhhh 12.13.35 # well I look forward to see it implemented then :-) 12.13.37 # they want to add various other info besides song names, and then .m3u is no good 12.13.51 # lol 12.14.01 # but b4s is one stupid extension name ;-) 12.14.26 # lol 12.14.33 # supposed to look like "bass" 12.14.33 # heehee 12.14.39 # it is? 12.14.40 # Let's grok! 12.14.43 # GROK GROK GROK! 12.14.44 # even worse then ;-) 12.14.57 # in that case what does m3u stand for? 12.15.01 # searching for "winamp" and "b4s" only returns vulnerability reports :-) 12.15.08 # hehe 12.15.11 # manchester united score 3? 12.15.15 # heehee 12.16.39 # i'm not too fond of needing an XML parser just to load a list of songs 12.17.02 # well don't the ID3 tags carry song data not the playlist itself? 12.17.37 # I'm also a bit scared of all the other info people will expect us to "understand" when we start to load .b4s files 12.17.57 # Bagder: yes 12.18.10 # well in that case stick with tried and tested m3u 12.18.12 # for playlist 12.18.27 # and the basic B4S format contains fields for "song lenght" and "song name". silly as silly can be! 12.18.33 # I'm convinced someone will write a .b4s patch soon 12.18.51 # :-) 12.18.51 # :-( 12.19.23 # Linus could you "tweak" the recording level adjuster so you don't have to keep clicking it to adjust rec level? 12.19.27 # i.e just hold it down? 12.20.30 # sure 12.21.03 # because when you click to adjust during mic recording a lot of clicks get recorded 12.21.42 # just a suggestion Linus 12.24.00 # done 12.24.08 # check out the next bleeding edge 12.24.19 # should be there in about 15 minutes 12.24.25 # cheers 12.24.40 # I sent that as a request in Sourceforge "One Click Level Adjust" 12.25.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.25.39 Part Zagor 12.39.02 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 12.40.15 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.55.14 # Bagder: do you have the time to deal with the apps/string.c issue? 12.57.21 # Linus: I've found a cool thing, check it out: http://www.xpcgear.com/35slimexhard.html 12.57.43 # ATA/133 and all :D 12.57.54 # [~] whois www.xpcgear.com 12.57.54 # Segmentation fault 12.57.57 # very good ;) 12.58.34 # which chip is it using? 12.58.37 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 12.58.48 # dunno really 12.59.01 # All I can read is ATA/133 ;) 13.01.16 # it only mentions that it can *fit* an ata-133 drive, not that it supports large disks :-) 13.03.30 # Hmm 13.03.33 # :-( 13.03.38 # I want such a box 13.03.43 # It rould rox 13.05.49 # LinusN: what app/string.c issue? 13.08.32 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 13.09.14 # no prototype for num2max5() 13.09.28 # should be a string.h file for that, but....ooops! :-) 13.11.03 # hehe 13.11.05 # how silly 13.14.04 # call it misc.c or whatever 13.14.09 # yeah 13.15.44 # would be nice with X.XGb in num2max5() too 13.16.21 # it would break the system 13.16.28 # i know 13.16.28 # it shows as many digits as possible 13.16.56 # never mind 13.19.53 # committed 13.21.14 # great 13.41.06 Part TotMacherr 13.57.28 # can anyone think of a key combination for screen dumps, that will work in any screen? 14.07.07 # could do 'screenshot on next charger plugin' :) 14.07.21 # Schnueff: not bad 14.07.31 # or smth like this 14.17.19 # LinusN: MAXTOR Personal Storage 5000XT, 250GB extern hårddisk USB2.0 + FireWire (5400 rpm) - how about that? :) 14.17.31 # 5400 RPM's but who gives a darn ;D 14.17.49 # url? 14.18.12 # double disks 14.18.52 # LinusN: how about ON+UP+DOWN 14.19.34 # will work if all present ON keypresses react on button-up only 14.19.40 # Linus: http://www.sumodata.se/k007u006s007.htm 14.19.54 # imagine wanting a screenshot of thewps 14.19.57 # the wps 14.20.05 # wps is ON|UP 14.20.23 # due to the pitch screen 14.20.41 # Linus: good or bad? 14.21.14 # Zagor: so if i hold on and try to press UP+DOWN i will end up in the pitch screen? 14.21.26 # ah, right 14.21.50 # charger would be okay, i think 14.22.14 # maybe to assist doing multiple screenshots, a setting that makes one whenever charger inserted changes 14.22.40 # ON+F3 isn't used anywhere. or ON+F3+DOWN to make it a little less likely to press by accident 14.22.44 # dwihno: that's only a price list, do you have an url for the spec sheet? 14.23.02 # Linus: I'm trying to find it... 14.25.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.27.32 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-school (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.29.37 # is there a major speed difference between 5200 and 7200 RPM disks? 14.35.18 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.36.25 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.80) 14.37.40 # A megabyte means 1,000,000 bytes. A gigabyte means 1,000,000,000 bytes. 14.37.46 # According to Maxtor ;) 14.38.02 # according to all hard disk manufacturers 14.38.18 # Linus: I read the spec sheet. It says nothing about the hardware being used. 14.38.19 # quantum started the trend 14.39.04 # Hm 14.39.41 # mkay 14.39.49 # how about the 5200/7200 RPM issue? 14.40.18 # yes, how about it? 14.40.32 # How big is the difference? :) 14.40.38 # (and don't say 2000 RPM) ;) 14.40.46 >>> "pass" used by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) [snoop prevented] 14.41.00 >>> "1+1" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 14.41.04 >>> "calc 1+1" by Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 14.41.31 # dwihno: about 25% 14.41.57 # Mkay 14.42.05 # theoretically 14.45.27 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-020-105.dsl1.versanet.de) 14.52.07 # LinusN: feel like testing a flush() patch? 14.52.07 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.52.44 # In theory, we can all fly! :D 14.53.16 # * dwihno passes on the kokosbollar to everyone 14.53.54 # Zagor: sure 14.58.42 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-020-105.dsl1.versanet.de) 15.16.03 # yikes, who fixed combo keys in the X11 sim? it rocks! 15.19.35 Join Kuji_ [0] (~kuji@m81-mp1.cvx2-c.lng.dial.ntli.net) 15.20.03 # hallo 15.20.08 Nick Kuji_ is now known as kuji (~kuji@m81-mp1.cvx2-c.lng.dial.ntli.net) 15.20.11 # yo 15.20.20 # how ya doon 15.20.50 # fine i guess 15.20.58 # Smoking the cpu I fear. 15.21.00 # heh 15.21.18 # think I found a bug.. just getting latest bleed edge to recheck 15.21.31 # a bug? naaaaah! 15.21.57 # ahh .. fixed in this one 15.22.04 # what was it? 15.22.14 # the last bleed edge build I had wouldnt continue to the next track 15.22.20 # even if you selected next 15.22.21 # we don't deal in bugs. move on. 15.22.21 # ;) 15.22.23 # weird 15.22.27 # hehe 15.22.41 # still fixed.. 15.22.43 # nice 15.22.57 # thanks for excellent stuff linus 15.22.58 # kuji: i don't think we have fixed such a bug 15.23.12 # how old 15.23.14 # well there's this _feature_ that dynamic wps tags don't get updated in scrolling lines ... :) 15.23.15 # then, the better :) 15.23.20 # was the version that had the bug? 15.23.21 # linus... weird thing it was ok until the fat bug was fixed 15.23.45 # it was the bleed edge build from the moment that fat bug applied.. 15.23.52 # I just overwrote the file.. oops 15.23.56 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.23.59 # still it works.. glitches come n go 15.24.00 # langhaarrocker: did we ever support that? 15.24.00 # hheeh 15.24.04 # hi all! 15.24.08 # Zagor: no 15.24.16 # yes we do 15.24.26 # Bagder: i stand corrected 15.24.48 # Bagder: it's documented to be unsuppported in the manual 15.24.51 # :) 15.24.57 # at least we've been fighting to make it work and it works at times but that bug seems to turn up all the time ;-) 15.25.20 # I've seen it work ;-) 15.25.31 # how is recording at moment... still chopping files ? 15.25.33 # It's a zombie bug. A special case for quelsaruk. 15.25.46 # just toss some goats 15.25.59 # a lot of patch and improvements have been made this days.... 15.26.33 # good for futur rockbox release... 15.27.25 # kuji: chopping files? 15.27.58 # kuji: that was fixed with the fat bug 15.28.05 # it works perfectly now, i think 15.29.43 # Now the disasters only happen on the other side of the microphone. 15.35.55 # I tried after the fat bug and a 60min recording was just 38mins 15.36.05 # I will set it recording for an hour see what I get 15.36.26 # kuji: did you use a stop watch? 15.36.41 # no a clock... good enough.. 15.36.42 # heh 15.36.48 # od did you trust the (wrong) information in the WPS screen? 15.37.08 # right starting now.. 15.37.12 # 2:37 my time 15.37.21 # Someone should implement a fast forward while recording. For the ease of debugging. 15.37.24 # lets see... back in an hour 15.37.37 # kuji: i mean, when playing back the recorded file 15.37.46 # nono it chopped the end off 15.37.54 # missed the last half of the mix I did 15.38.20 # will see where this gets to.. 15.38.30 # back in a bit.. let you knwo 15.38.32 # langhaarrocker: :-) 15.39.54 # someone know the status of the XING VBR header feature ? 15.40.39 # linus the wizard perhaps :) ? 15.40.58 # i know 15.41.04 # it's working 15.41.14 # i am about to commit it 15.41.17 # good news!!! 15.42.00 # Sounds like V2.0 is about to be released? 15.42.07 # getting closer 15.42.24 # With all news feature, the original firmware seems to be so far behind... 15.42.29 # * Bagder votes on Linus for president 15.42.31 # Now let's all calm down! :) We don't want to stress this baby 15.42.38 # um, my outburst over x11 key combos was a bit early :-) 15.42.47 # well, we still need to run the new code a little to look for bugs 15.43.36 # Zagor said bug are not available. 15.43.52 # "bugs are not an option" 15.44.30 # Zagor: yellow build! 15.44.47 # yeah, noticed. silly warning. 15.45.08 # all warnings are silly, i know what i am doing :-) 15.46.17 # Is it possible to make cross-tunes navigation faster? 15.46.29 # dwihno: huh? 15.46.44 # quick skip? only at big effort. 15.46.47 # you mean next/prev? 15.48.43 # uhu 15.48.44 # :-) 15.55.02 # Alexander Eickhoff's ON-LEFT/RIGHT idea for keyboard cursor movement is pretty good 15.55.18 # dwihno: have a look at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=668528 15.55.18 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-02/0720.shtml 15.55.37 # langhaarrocker: how does it work for Players 15.55.39 # ? 15.56.10 Quit Bagder ("Client Exiting") 15.56.14 # ? how works what for players? 15.57.29 # aah 15.57.37 # pre-buffer algorithm :)~~~ 15.58.21 # langhaarrocker: keyboard.c 15.58.32 # that was me :-) 15.58.53 # it doesn't, of course. they don't have an ON button. but keyboard is wholly different for rec and player anyway 15.59.20 # I haven't provided any bugs for a long time :( 15.59.44 # * Zagor is knocked by Linus' commit 16.00.06 # Linus got some evil commits going on?! :DO 16.00.17 # it is one of those "nothing should have changed" commits 16.00.22 # hehe 16.00.43 # look for id3 and sound gap bugs 16.01.02 # the id3 parser is a bit enhanced 16.01.46 # to cope with silly extra data in the id3 frames 16.02.00 # Linus: Now behave! Silly is GOOD :) 16.02.20 # and skip compressed/encrypted frames and stuff 16.02.20 # still need a next track button when recording imo. 16.02.33 # kuji: coming up 16.02.37 # kewl 16.02.40 # thats handy 16.02.47 # 30mins to go.. 16.02.47 # heh 16.02.48 # i wonder which key to use 16.03.12 # there should be a mode switch. we can't hog the keys for gain adjustments all the time 16.03.13 # combo? 16.03.34 # Zagor: agreed, i am not happy with the ui as it is now 16.04.21 # some combo key (ON+UP/DOWN is nice) could select mode. gain, record, keylock 16.04.42 # keylock could be the same as WPS 16.04.47 # yeah 16.04.56 # ON+PLAY could be "next" 16.05.05 # just Play would be "pause" 16.05.25 # ON+NEXT is better imho 16.05.33 # maybe set gain before recording 16.05.34 # or maybe not 16.05.40 # then the keys change when recording 16.05.44 # i'm not sure that RIGHT is a good choice for Next 16.05.49 # I wouldnt change gain in the middle of recording 16.05.57 # since there is no Prev 16.06.09 # if we call it "start new file" rather than "next file", on+play is good 16.06.14 # kuji: people want to change gain while recording 16.06.17 # kuji: I would. That's why I can't buy Sony MD recorders 16.07.05 # maybe set an option in main settings 16.07.05 # Zagor: ON+PLAY or PLAY|REPEAT would be good i guess 16.07.12 # kuji: when recording a live performance and you notice clips then you don't have the options to rerecord from start. 16.07.17 # ye true 16.07.39 # PLAY|REPEAT for the one-handed guys 16.08.39 # why not change the F functions in recording mode.. 16.08.49 # no need to change things on f3 for instance 16.08.52 # when recording 16.09.04 # it's difficult to switch files frame-accurately 16.09.38 # kuji: now when you bring it up, i want to ditch the F2 and F3 screens in the recording UI 16.09.53 # cool 16.10.02 # that leaves more options 16.10.26 # maybe use f2 + whatever to change gain .. leaving you to select next file normally 16.10.28 # next 16.10.31 # or whatever 16.11.35 # langhaarrocker: is patch #632667 still valid? 16.11.45 # Some kind of quick navigation, such as ON+left or ON+right... 16.11.48 # * langhaarrocker looking 16.11.57 # That would use some kind of smart pre-buffering algo! 16.11.59 # Yes yes... 16.12.02 # Very good 16.12.07 # I second that motion 16.12.13 # Me too! 16.12.15 # :-D 16.12.16 # Yay! 16.12.28 # dwihno: smart buffering has to be done *before* you press the key, so a dedicated key combo is pointless 16.12.54 # Zagor: the first key press could activate the buffer algo... 16.13.07 # no, it's too late then. 16.13.13 # Zagor: bugfix 632667 is obsolete 16.13.15 # you need to have it enabled when loading the previous track 16.13.20 # It's never too late, Zagor! 16.13.20 # langhaarrocker: ok, thanks 16.14.15 # someone called me? 16.14.21 # langhaarrocker ? 16.14.50 # quel, I bet your highlight goes off when the magic word appears 16.14.51 # my cpu burned. I need some cold blooded technopriest for liquid cpu cooling with goat blood. 16.14.51 # ... 16.14.53 # GOAT 16.15.07 # i had a lot of work today and forgot to put quel|out :) 16.15.52 # ummm 16.15.58 # did you see the fire? 16.16.00 # smoke? 16.16.07 # or just went off? 16.17.10 # The plastic nose where a clamp fixes the cooler on the cpu broke off -> heat death of cpu. cpu = piece of coal. 16.18.47 # GREAT!!! 16.18.47 # I assume that the little smoke signals to indicate it went for the eternal hunting grounds of electronics were sent unseen while I was at home over the weekend. 16.19.02 # this happened at work? 16.19.08 # yes 16.19.25 # the good thing is that you don't have to pay it :) 16.19.36 # i hope... 16.19.57 # have you tried to drop some tears over the cpu? 16.19.59 # That's true, and my new cpu is faster, too 16.20.11 # that's how i revived my 30 GB HD 16.20.36 # (langhaarrocker then you don't need a technopriest.. you are lucky) 16.21.31 # void bookmark_write(bool autobookmark) 16.21.32 # { 16.21.39 # char new_bookmark[MAX_BOOKMARK_SIZE]; 16.21.52 # char bookmarks[MAX_BOOKMARKS][MAX_BOOKMARK_SIZE]; 16.22.00 # #define MAX_BOOKMARKS 10 16.22.05 # #define MAX_BOOKMARK_SIZE 440 16.22.17 # that's 5KB of stack, right there 16.23.31 # If you think that's problematic you'll kill me when you see the customizable key code... 16.23.39 # #define DEFAULT_STACK_SIZE 0x400 /* Bytes */ 16.24.03 # langhaarrocker: haha 16.25.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.25.21 # LinusN: tried flush() yet? 16.25.38 # nope, nut yet 16.27.34 # 10 mins left for record test 16.27.38 # ho hum 16.31.42 # I can't do any record tests: my microphone has been claimed by the band and is installed somewhere on the drums now. :( 16.33.08 # :( 16.36.37 # 30secs.. 16.38.28 # whats the quickest way to check the real time length 16.38.37 # kuji: then you have another hour to listen and check the recording... :-) 16.38.55 # kuji: run VBRfix on it 16.39.20 # its all there.. woot 16.39.24 # wheres vbrfix 16.39.37 # got it 16.39.50 # Isn't there a phone number that keeps telling the time? Record that! 16.40.18 # langhaarrocker: in Sweden, it hangs up after 1 minute 16.40.37 # useful prog 16.41.06 # does it record ok say about 8hours now / 16.41.16 # Im gonna record a psytrance party 16.41.21 # LinusN: then use another coutries time service :) 16.41.32 # langhaarrocker: sounds cheap :-) 16.41.46 # perfect recording 16.41.48 # nice 16.41.56 # kuji: very long recordings may screw up, depending on how your HD is formatted 16.42.00 # LinusN: The paypal money must be used on something. 16.42.02 # or you can buy a nuclear clock 16.42.12 # hm anoncvs down? 16.42.19 # kuji: i am working on this as we speak 16.42.45 # lin.. ok cool 16.43.07 # ah worx again 16.45.33 # LinusN: the vbrfixer is not yet committed, is it? 16.47.02 # no it isn't 16.47.11 # k 16.47.27 # i hope, once committed, i can make a stand-alone tool from it :) 16.48.57 # remember that it only adds a xing header and does not attempt to fix corrupt files 16.49.15 # LinusN: red sim builds soon 16.49.38 # corrupt in the sense of wrong information in the xing header? 16.50.03 # Zagor: why? 16.50.18 # Schnueff: corrupt in the sense of bad MP3 data in the file 16.50.22 # /home/bjst/rockbox/uisimulator/x11/../../firmware/id3.c:467: undefined reference to `get_mp3file_info' 16.50.41 # uh, maybe I just haven't updated :-) 16.50.54 # try that, it will help 16.50.54 # LinusN: ok, yes, no reason it should fix mp3 data 16.55.21 # LinusN: where is that tool? 16.55.33 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-154-110-74.bct.bellsouth.net) 16.56.30 # quelsaruk: VBRFix? use google 16.56.52 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 16.56.55 # rehi 16.56.59 # yo 16.57.05 # ahhh.. i thought it was a tool made by you 16.57.09 # can you use sourceforge CVS? 16.57.17 # i can't 16.57.20 # anoncvs worked a moment ago 16.57.22 # I can 16.57.25 # * Bagder tries 16.57.26 # but two moments ago it didnt 16.57.29 # :) 16.57.34 # just committed %pv 16.57.35 # the anon one goes up and down 16.57.36 # non-stop 16.57.45 # * Bagder updates fine just now 16.57.46 # LinusN: it works for me 16.58.41 # Connection closed by 66.35.250.207 16.58.42 # cvs [update aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) 16.58.42 # [ 16.58.45 # LinusN: anoncvs seems broken 16.58.58 # i don't use anon 16.59.05 # you sure? 16.59.13 Quit kuji (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.59.47 # LinusN: :ext: works :pserver: seems broken. 17.00.11 # check your CVS_RSH variable 17.00.15 # CVS/Root contains :ext:linusnielsen@cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rockbox 17.01.17 # LinusN: strange. Your getting the error I'm getting for :pserver:! :ext: works for me. 17.01.32 # i did add a certificate at SF a few hours ago 17.02.11 # you deposited a key? 17.02.16 # that takes some time iirc 17.02.32 # yes, but it shouldn't cause those errors 17.02.32 # but the old approach should still work until the key works 17.02.45 # Bagder: it worked untila few minutes ago 17.03.10 # SF's cvs is very shaky 17.03.25 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|out (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 17.03.35 # (mentioned that publicly a few weeks ago and got mailed by an SF admin...) 17.03.58 # what did the admin write? 17.04.07 # they say they have a load problem with a very large amount of cvs accesses 17.04.28 # I can imagine 17.04.28 # woo, works from my other machine (labb.contactor.se) 17.04.53 # with the key or with passwd? 17.04.59 # another key 17.05.21 # maybe my firewall needs some tweaking... 17.05.53 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 17.06.24 # How is the relase going? Status? 17.06.48 # quick poll: should we write CRLF or LF to the generated .cfg files? 17.07.00 # lf 17.07.04 # lf 17.07.07 # lf 17.07.23 # yeah, that's what I though too. just wanted to check. :-) 17.07.36 # poll result: 4 - 0 17.07.41 # :-) 17.08.42 # Strange thing though. all windows lamers will have a problem with this while we linux freaks hardly will notice the difference ;-) 17.08.42 # damn. I was to late. 17.09.08 # crlf! 17.09.09 # crlf! 17.09.09 DBUG Sent KICK dwihno to server 17.09.09 # crlf! 17.09.09 Kick (#rockbox dwihno :Stop repeating yourself) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se 17.09.13 # I don't think windows people will have a problem, only those that'll load it with notepad 17.09.14 # hahahahaha 17.09.14 Join dwihno [0] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 17.09.16 # crlf! 17.09.18 # crlf ! 17.09.21 # :-) 17.09.22 #>> "rocks" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 17.09.31 # * dwihno rocks logbit 17.09.34 # logbit 17.09.38 # erhm, blah 17.09.46 # Men åååh 17.09.48 # matsl: no. windows users expect a gui. They won't bother with text files. 17.09.49 # Jag är hungrig! 17.09.59 # Bagder: don't windows users just do that ;-) 17.10.00 # does notepad require crlf? 17.10.06 # yes 17.10.06 # jupp 17.10.08 # notepad wants crlf, yes 17.10.10 # mooo 17.10.25 # Use write instead -> but don't save it in rtf :) 17.10.27 # that's really weird, since windows normally uses LF. doesn't it? 17.10.32 # matsl: no, since .cfg won't be associated with that app ;-) 17.10.41 # it's my certificate that f*cks it up 17.10.42 # .cfg is probably already used by some weird app 17.10.48 # and people will double-click on it ;-) 17.10.57 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 17.11.02 # Bagder: right! So we can safely use lf then! 17.11.07 # lf! 17.11.09 # hehe 17.11.31 # I'd prefer rotfl 17.11.32 # but .. imagine all the bug reports created .. 17.11.36 # .. maybe crlf :) 17.12.37 # yeah, i'm thinking that too. 17.12.53 # (because under linux there's some mount options to translates those automatically?) 17.12.55 # ok then 17.13.29 # hm but its not triggered for .cfg files 17.13.58 # ah no, the other way round 17.14.35 # but i wouldn't use auto-conversion anyway :) 17.15.19 # maybe we should add fprintf(). doing snprintf();write() gets a bit boring in the long run... 17.15.27 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 17.15.46 # still, i'm not going to write vprintf :-) 17.16.23 # the best way is to make a little macro/function for the core, and use that from all those functions 17.27.00 # btw, Linus and I discovered that the FM recorders can wake up from RTC! 17.27.09 # great! 17.27.34 Join xam [0] (~xam@tqpc.ucc.ie) 17.28.22 # OT: Is there accidently some tube-amp-electrician-guru around? 17.28.46 # first you burn hi-tec processors, then u switch to tubes? :) 17.29.24 # :) 17.31.06 # gotta go 17.31.07 Part Zagor 17.35.51 # anyone ever used cmake? 17.35.57 # (www.cmake.org) 17.36.28 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.37.04 Join ken0_ [0] (~marklar2@80.178.36.80) 17.43.20 # Bagder: How things going with the relase? 17.43.35 # I don't really know 17.44.02 # Ok. zagor knows? 17.44.42 # matsl: we are all waiting for me 17.44.43 # zagor knows everything! ;-) 17.45.23 # Bagder: is that a healthy atitude between brothers? 17.45.45 # hey, he's not here then I can say nice things about him 17.45.45 # LinusN: Ok. So what are you up to then? 17.45.50 # just don't tell him I did ;-) 17.46.01 # i am working with the recording 17.46.05 # he might readthe logs. 17.46.15 # I'll edit them ;-) 17.47.16 # LinusN: So if you take a really long time we will have lots of features in the next release. 17.47.50 # haha 17.48.02 # it's not about features 17.48.45 # no not your job. I was thinking of what the rest will do while you'r busy doing real stuff. 17.49.42 # Anyway. I was just trying to see if there were something I could do to help. 17.51.25 # there are bugs and patches to work on 17.56.47 # LinusN: you mean. Just grab any nonsolved bug on the bug reports page and fix it. 17.58.28 # eg: dynamic tags in wps aren't updated when in a scrolling line :) 17.58.47 # matsl: sort of 17.58.49 Part langhaarrocker 18.00.14 # LinusN: sort of means that there are bug reports that should simply be rejected? 18.00.22 # or wait until after 2.0 18.00.39 # i have a question for you recorder guys 18.00.55 # generating a xing header takes time, lots of time 18.01.27 # LinusN: So we are back to square one where I wanted some task assigned from one of the gurus! ;-) 18.02.02 # when finishing a recording, do we want to: 18.02.28 Quit pyvasene ("I'm going away") 18.02.33 # a) generate an empty xing header, so the playback will at least show that it is a vbr file 18.02.46 # b) save it without a header 18.03.05 # the a) alternative will show the wrong bit rate and wrong time 18.03.15 # but so will b 18.03.33 # too 18.03.35 # right? 18.03.38 # yes 18.03.58 # the a) alternative has one advantage 18.04.29 # yes, you can fill-in the info later without having to rewrite the whole file 18.04.30 # it will be nicer to the buffer threshold calculations 18.04.55 # if only the MAS could provide me with how many frames it has recorded, all would be fine 18.05.31 Join barker [0] (~sdb@adsl-68-74-103-158.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 18.06.26 # but the MAS stops counting at 0xfffff and doesn't wrap 18.06.42 # that happens after about 3hours 18.06.51 # that is so stupid 18.07.04 # and I guess re-starting it makes a glitch 18.07.22 # yup 18.20.25 Nick quel|out is now known as quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 18.20.27 # re 18.24.46 # hi 18.25.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.25.27 Join webmind_ [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 18.27.52 # rc5-72: " we'll 18.27.52 # hit 100% in 686,256 days at yesterday's rate. 18.27.59 # " 18.28.15 # it could take a while... :-) 18.32.14 # * quelsaruk calculates.... 18.32.31 # maybe i'm still young that day 18.32.38 # :) 18.35.17 # bbl 18.35.19 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 18.36.27 Join jzoss [0] (~none@jkzoss.datasys.swri.edu) 18.36.59 Quit webmind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.37.21 # LinusN: I read your comments on my editID3 patch 18.37.33 # I follow most of them, and I'll get on those tonight 18.37.56 # Lots o' cleanup to do. =) Sorry about the mixed-case variable/func names. Missed that part of docs/contributing 18.38.11 # np 18.38.23 # Anyway, can you explain further what you meant by "Would prefer resize_id3v2 to create a new file"? 18.38.24 # LinusN: send inquisition to jzoss :) 18.38.42 # Sigh. I'm sitting through 3 other inquisitions as we speak. Not another one! 18.39.42 Quit xam (Remote closed the connection) 18.42.30 # Are you saying change the func prototype to something more like resize_id3v2(filename, size)? So func can create new file, copy all data, delete the old file, rename new file to old filename? 18.43.41 # jzoss: sort of, yeah 18.43.59 # The advantage being less data shuffling, I assume. 18.43.59 # would probably be a lot faster 18.44.18 # the seek() operation is painful 18.44.31 # Okay. Fair enough. 18.44.48 # While I've caught you online, anything else that struck you as needing rework? 18.45.05 # hmmm 18.45.27 # The patch includes a quickie cfg loader/saver just for recording settings. 'Cause I didn't want to piggyback on the existing load/save that's just for cfg-block settings. 18.45.28 Quit TotMacher () 18.45.46 # But with the new load/save .cfg-file code, it might be preferrable to call that code 18.45.51 # yup 18.46.20 # jzoss: what do you do when there is no ID3 tag at all in the file? 18.46.28 # expand? 18.46.32 # Yup. 18.47.08 # And take whatever default ID3 tags come out of the read-ID3 parser (probably NULL and empty values) 18.47.11 # you should check out the ID3/MP3 parser code i committed today 18.47.28 # Okay. I read the CVS commit notice 18.47.39 # it can find out if there is room even if there is no ID3 tag (all zeroes) 18.48.06 # the recorded files reserve 4K data in the beginning of the file 18.48.39 # use the mp3info() function to get the needed information 18.48.49 # Ahhh..I was pre-reserving an extra 500 bytes (or so) before recording, since I didn't know recording was doing that. 18.49.05 # then you will get id3 size, plus the space from the tag to the first playable frame 18.49.06 # Yes, it does use mp3info now. 18.49.27 # I just wasn't checking all that fun additional info 18.49.29 # jzoss: the recording didn't reserve space when you wrote your code, i added that today 18.49.37 # gotchya 18.49.53 Join randomnick [0] (~chatzilla@ak.nlc.com) 18.50.13 # jzoss: use the first_frame_offset and the xing_header_offset properties 18.50.29 # Xing_header comes before first_frame, right? 18.50.35 # yes, if it exists 18.52.01 # oops 18.54.49 # Question on how to best handle "uninitialized" id3 info: Right now, I always write all supported tags, even if they're just empty strings. 18.55.02 # Should probably only selectively write tags that have been set to something meaningful. 18.55.04 # don't do that 18.55.16 # i mean only write tags that have info 18.55.40 # So "don't selectively write tags", or "don't always write all tags" =) 18.56.11 # i mean only write tags that have info 18.56.17 # Right. I agree 18.56.40 # It works well for most, but we are currently initializing genre to 0. Which is a valid value ("Blues") 18.56.55 # where do we do that? 18.56.57 # Should genre be int instead of uchar and initialize to -1 or some such? 18.57.08 # good idea 18.57.27 # In setid3v2title, e.g. 18.58.07 # Mp3info inits to 0xff, but then calls setid3v2title 18.59.22 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.80) 18.59.23 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.00.49 # Init to 0xff is probably okay, since it looks like "known" tags only go up to 125. 19.01.21 # ok 19.01.37 # Anyway, I'm off to lunch. Thanks for looking at the patch. I'll cleanup some and hopefully work closer to something reasonable. =) 19.02.19 # great 19.02.29 Part jzoss 19.07.44 Join PsycoXuul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-6.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 19.12.29 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.13.05 Nick PsycoXuul is now known as PsycoXul (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-6.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 19.28.03 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.80) 19.28.03 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.41.31 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB71544.ipt.aol.com) 19.41.41 # Evening friends 19.41.42 # :-) 19.47.10 # I wouldn't mind writing a manual for Rockbox in .doc or .txt format for this site 19.47.25 # if one could submit me how everything works i'd convert that into a manual 19.47.28 # a tex/pdf manual is in the works 19.47.41 # yea but I wouldn't mind writing it Linus 19.50.08 # errr LINUS where are the file extensions in SUPPORTED mode? 19.50.09 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.50.14 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.80) 19.50.36 # tracktheripper: known extensions are removed in supported mode 19.50.47 # ohhhh 19.51.01 # I thought my Archos was faulty when I saw the missing extensions 20.17.58 Quit randomnick ("ChatZilla 0.8.13c [Mozilla rv:1.3b/20030210]") 20.25.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.51.23 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 20.51.52 # rehej 20.52.02 # ha det sa bra Bagder? 20.52.08 # hehe 20.52.25 # that's more of a good-bye thing to say 20.52.29 # Hi Badger 20.53.19 # really? 20.53.41 # quelsaruk: yes, like "have a nice day" kind-of-saying 20.53.52 # i thought it was a "how are you".. but seems i was in a great error ;) 20.54.20 # so how is how are you? 20.54.38 # "hur mår du?" 20.54.50 # arrrgg!! 20.55.00 # that sounds satanic or something like that 20.55.06 # it is 20.55.08 # inkisition may punish you! 20.55.11 # we are all satanists 20.55.21 # we believe in the power of goats 20.55.28 # goats are not satanic 20.55.31 # poor goats 20.55.32 # they're not? 20.55.32 # :( 20.55.42 # they love heavy metal 20.55.44 # :) 20.55.47 # not death metal 20.56.08 # Bagder: scrolling information can't be updated in the current rockbox version as far as i can see 20.56.43 # i don't see a function that updates the scrolled information without resetting the scroll 20.56.45 # well, that's a bug isn't it? 20.57.06 # I've seen it scroll with updated info in the past 20.57.13 # in your dreams 20.57.15 # :-) 20.57.16 # nope 20.57.18 # in the sim 20.57.25 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-154-110-74.bct.bellsouth.net) 20.57.34 # i tried it today 20.57.37 # or was it a sim of my dreams? 20.57.40 # :-P 20.58.03 # the code doesn't update scrolled lines, and if it does, the scroll starts over 20.58.04 # well, the bug reports says it doesn't work, so I'm not that surprised it doesn't work ;-) 20.58.32 # scrolling the same line on the same place shouldn't restart the scroll 20.58.43 # that could be a solution perhaps 20.58.57 # yea Linus Ive just emailed you what I have done so far, Im gonna continue tommorow as I have to be up early for work and Im feeling a bit tired 20.58.58 # how does lcd_puts_scroll() know if the line hasn't changed? 20.59.06 # tracktheripper: sure 20.59.08 # good q 20.59.30 # I got your friend's email Linus, thanks 20.59.44 # good, and join the mailing list 21.00.20 # :-) 21.00.39 # Ill sign up to the mailing list once everyone is happy wiv the layout so far 21.02.32 # <----- is no longer gonna submit feature requests. 21.02.53 # im gonna concentrate on the manual instead 21.03.31 # but if you do so, you'll make bagder a happy man! 21.03.36 # you can't! 21.03.49 # whats that Quel? 21.04.31 # if you stop submiting features... 21.04.41 # haha 21.05.12 # * quelsaruk fears the day logbot kicks him 21.05.38 >>> "kick quelsaruk" by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 21.06.34 # * Bagder faints 21.06.45 # * Bagder got a one-shot donation of 300 US$ for curl 21.07.27 # nice! 21.07.52 # wao! 21.08.17 # for whom or for what are those dollars? ;) 21.08.43 # donation from a friendly chap as a thanks for my tool and library curl 21.09.21 # ahhh... i remember that program :) 21.09.24 # :-) 21.12.04 # i bet you he's not spanish 21.12.47 # Quel why u upset im no longer submitting requests? 21.13.27 # nevermind tracktheripper, another spanish joke 21.13.50 # :-) 21.14.04 # funny guys, those spanish fellows... :-) 21.14.15 # yea 21.14.33 # Linus is it best if I write the manual when Notepad is fully maximised? 21.14.36 # locos! 21.14.40 # :-O 21.14.51 # tracktheripper: it shouldn't matter 21.15.13 # ok :-) 21.15.20 # notepad? 21.15.21 # heh 21.15.24 # yea Im gonna continue tommorow afternoon 21.15.31 # should have far more information 21.15.33 # tracktheripper: maybe consider a better text editor 21.15.44 # all I have is Notepad 21.16.05 # there are zillions of freeware text editors out there 21.16.17 # ohhh 21.16.26 >>> "cmd" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.16.31 # there's even vim for windows 21.16.35 # but i don't wanna traumatize you 21.17.03 # Windows - from the guys who brought you Edlin 21.17.05 # "its simple, just press :q! and nothing is damaged!" ;-) 21.17.20 >>> "sview" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.17.27 # hehe 21.17.41 >>> "cmd explain" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.17.57 >>> "explain *" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.18.04 # Linus ive changed the font to Times New Roman in Notepad 21.18.07 >>> "help expadd" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.18.08 # makes it much easier to read 21.18.41 >>> "expadd Rockbox = A firmware replacement for the Archos MP3 players, http://rockbox.haxx.se/" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.18.47 >>> "pass" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] 21.18.53 >>> "newpass" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] 21.18.54 # spanish are not crazy 21.18.55 # just me 21.18.57 >>> "expadd Rockbox = A firmware replacement for the Archos MP3 players, http://rockbox.haxx.se/" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.18.57 # remember that!! 21.19.02 # i'm the one 21.19.03 # ;) 21.19.59 >>> "expadd quelsaruk=Crazy spanish person. Techno priest. Known to sacrifice goats at midnight to please the debugger gods." by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.20.13 #>> "explain quelsaruk for us please?" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.20.22 # aaaah 21.20.24 # that explains it 21.21.07 # ;) 21.21.44 >>> "expadd Zagor=The dark overlord of the Rockbox cult." by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.24.25 >>> "explain logbot=I am me" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.24.32 >>> "expadd logbot=I am me" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.24.50 >>> "explain *" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.24.58 #>> "explain zagor" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.24.59 # <--------- is busy working on the Manuel 21.25.53 # logbot: explain bagder 21.26.04 # logbot: explain psycoxul 21.26.06 # heh 21.26.09 # logbot explain linusn 21.26.21 # * LinusN is disappointed 21.26.25 # hehe 21.26.32 # logbot: explain linusn 21.26.37 # booh 21.26.39 # he's picky who he talks to ;-) 21.27.22 >>> "expadd LinusN=He Who Make The Sounds Go Beep" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.27.29 #>> "explain LinusN" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.27.36 # :-) 21.27.38 # buuuuu 21.27.42 # :P 21.30.41 >>> "op" used by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) [snoop prevented] 21.30.41 DBUG sent MODE #rockbox +o Bagder 21.30.41 Mode "#rockbox +o Bagder " by logbot (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 21.31.49 >>> "help sview" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.31.56 >>> "sview linusn" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.32.13 >>> "help useradd" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.32.32 >>> "useradd linusn 200" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 21.34.17 # time to go home! 21.34.23 # cu tomorrow! 21.34.48 # night quelsaruk 21.35.21 # bye Bagder, LinusN, i hope we see you here more continously 21.35.54 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 21.37.55 Nick Snorlax is now known as Snorlax|ZzZ (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 21.39.18 Nick Snorlax|ZzZ is now known as Snorlax (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 21.39.19 Join bu88a1 [0] (~jirc@cbord.com) 21.39.28 Quit bu88a1 (Client Quit) 21.39.31 Nick Snorlax is now known as Snorlax|ZzZ (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 21.52.34 Quit Snorlax|ZzZ () 21.55.18 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 21.55.35 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@gerimenu.com) 21.56.13 Quit bu88a1 (Client Quit) 21.59.13 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 22.13.49 Join Snorlax|ZzZ [0] (Snorlax@h13n2fls34o883.telia.com) 22.15.01 Join nikkelitous [0] (~a@tcsndslgw8PoolB247.tcsn.uswest.net) 22.20.42 Join MastaKeev [0] (jirc@cs67101-15.houston.rr.com) 22.20.54 # hey... anybody awake? 22.21.53 # Yeah. 22.22.01 # I can't help much but I'm awake 22.22.19 # lol 22.23.03 # So is there anything I can do for ya? 22.23.17 # ::shrug:: just a question... when you buy a new recorder, does it only use the rom firmware or does it have it on the hd already too 22.23.48 # directory snoop doesn't show anything that even resembles firmware 22.24.02 # Hmm. I dunno. 22.24.19 # It probably has a rom firmware but anything on the disk probably overrides it. 22.24.52 # yeah... i know thats how it works, im just lookin for the stupid firmware on the hd 22.24.54 # :-) 22.24.55 # MastaKeev: usually has nothing on the HD 22.25.17 # MastaKeev: if you want the "original" firmware, you have to download it from the net 22.25.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.25.25 # You probably have to put one on there. 22.25.25 # heheh archos is so cheap though, i hate that... they fix up archos'es that were returned and send em back out 22.25.41 # Thats the way everyone does it. 22.25.43 # don't even bother to delete the HD... lol 22.25.49 # Oh ok. 22.26.01 # Thats odd. Did it have some songs on it? 22.26.06 # err 22.26.15 # they don't fix FM recorders anymore I think 22.26.22 # they replace them 22.26.40 # atleast that's what Linus guessed when he opened one up 22.27.13 # that's the feeling i got when i opened mine up, yes 22.27.19 # ::shrug:: probably 22.27.32 # but it might just have been me 22.27.44 # mine had like 1gb of music still on it from the previous owner when i opened it up 22.28.00 # MastaKeev: see it as a bonus :-) 22.28.08 # i cant wait for the day when someone opens up the multimedia archos and finds gigs of porn... 22.28.11 # Thats what I'd say. 22.28.17 # hehehe. 22.28.29 # LinusN: hah if i could understand any of it... it was in french 22.28.32 # I'll have to do a check on mine when it gets here. 22.28.49 # Foreign music is funny. 22.29.04 # i like french pop 22.29.25 # nikkelitous: spanish death metal :-) 22.30.19 # Hadaka: i have improved my Fmrec opening skills since then, btw 22.30.32 # LinusN: hehe did i ever say i deleted it? :-) 22.30.36 # te-hehe. 22.30.38 # swedish metal is strange enough, we get some on the radio here 8-) 22.30.46 # hi hes! 22.30.53 # hi there. 22.31.12 # Swedish metal? What about Japanese metal. 22.31.19 # Now thats some weird music. 22.31.35 # LinusN: I never even heard the final results of that first dissection :) 22.31.41 # hah yeah... hey LinusN... i was gonna do some playing around with the firmware myself 22.31.45 # Hadaka: i am working on it 22.32.05 # mind saving me a little trouble and telling me how it 'scrambles' it 22.32.09 # :- 22.32.11 # ) 22.32.11 # i have photos and schematics coming up 22.32.42 # bad news is that the remote control isn't supported anymore 22.32.53 # aww 22.32.55 # and i can't see how digital I/O could work 22.32.58 # cool! photos rock :) 22.33.07 # hmmh, well that's bad 22.33.17 # good news is that fmrec can poweron with RTC alarm 22.33.45 # the fm radio part has no RDS 22.33.50 # :-( 22.34.19 # digital I/O ... no SPdif at all? 22.34.42 # the manual says it should work, but nothing comes out of it 22.34.56 # it is supposed to share the LineIn jack 22.35.02 # I think I went and accidently mirrored the Rockbox website. 22.35.28 # and it's not optical? 22.35.33 # no 22.36.07 # the internal mic is better isolated 22.36.15 # some MD devices have a 3.5mm stereo jack with an optical SPdif input inside it too 22.36.15 # but not good enough 22.36.25 # together with the analog input 22.36.45 # but coaxial SPdif with analog audio, that's... strangish 8-) 22.36.51 # yes 22.37.11 # I wish I could figure out WTH that meant. 22.38.08 # * Hes is playing with a quakeworld server... slightly retro 22.38.49 # Hardware work is way beyond me. I can barely tell the difference between a resistor and a transistor. 22.39.21 # lol 22.40.09 # ::shrug:: just smile and nod nikkelitous... thats what i do 22.42.04 # Ahh ok. Smile and nod. 22.42.37 # ::yawn:: hey LinusN... exactly how many lines of code is the disassembly 22.42.45 # I'm only an expert at one thing when it comes to tech: Operating systems. Almost any OS I can or am already a master of. 22.42.54 # MastaKeev: the disassembly? 22.44.05 # of the descrambled .ajz f 22.44.21 # i have no idea 22.44.54 # i only looked at it a few times, looking for specific h/w usage 22.45.32 # enough to bring my 2.7ghgz, 1gig ram to a crawl 22.46.00 # the disassembled ajz was of quite little use when reverse engineering the jukebox 22.46.24 # i just need the first 1000 lines or so to 22.46.36 # see how it starts up 22.46.44 # why? 22.47.09 # why do you bother about the original firmware? 22.47.12 # I have a question: What is needed to compile the UISimulator for Win32? 22.47.30 # make the most obfuscated "hello world" program ever :-) 22.47.33 # nikkelitous: a compiler 22.47.55 Quit ken0 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.47.56 # nikkelitous: read /docs/UISI 22.48.06 # MastaKeev: i don't follow you 22.48.19 # MULATOR 22.49.13 # LinusN: see if i can get it to boot up and say "hello world" or something... i know im re-inventing the wheel, but im bored and it sounds interesting 22.49.37 # Hello World 22.50.18 # MastaKeev: then why disassemble the firmware? Use the source code instead 22.51.32 # good question... but i'd probably understand the whole process a bit better if i looked at the firmware... 22.52.14 # ::shrug:: i guess it would be a bit easier to look at the source... any specific files i should start with? 22.52.19 # MastaKeev: the source code *is* the firmware 22.52.39 # crt0.S, main.c 22.52.45 # system.c 22.53.09 # MastaKev: I read that but it only says 'No info yet.' for win32. 22.53.51 # the source of your firmware... i was looking at the disassembly of theirs 23.01.44 Nick seb-school is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 23.02.29 # I get 3 errors when I try to compile the UISimulator. All three are where a variable is undeclared. 23.04.27 # How big is the screen on the recorder? Pixelwise. 23.07.56 # nikkelitous: 112x64 23.08.05 # nikkelitous: what errors? 23.08.05 # Ok. Thanks. 23.08.16 # LCD Height and Width. 23.08.31 # Both are apparently supposed to be constants but are never declared. 23.08.44 # nikkelitous: how are you trying to compile? 23.08.49 # and BUTTON_MENU 23.09.06 # did you use the configure script? 23.09.16 # I tried 33 different ways. Dev-C++, GCC, and Cygwin GCC. 23.09.47 # in Cygwin I just did a make. 23.09.54 # 3 different ways. Not 33 23.10.20 # What is BUTTON_MENU supposed to do? 23.11.06 # I think it is supposed to be the menu button but why does it need to be declared? 23.11.09 # i have never compiled the win32 simulator, but i'm pretty sure that you are not supposed to compile in the source code directory 23.11.56 # What do you mean? 23.12.35 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB65A60.ipt.aol.com) 23.12.53 # when i build the x11 simulator, i create a dir in the rockbox dir, for example rockbox/mysim 23.13.15 # i go there and run ../tools/configure and answer the questions 23.13.20 # then i get a makefile 23.13.35 # But there is no config for win32. 23.13.36 # but that's for x11 23.13.53 # I know I should just reboot to Linux but I've been doing things in Windows. 23.13.56 # win32 may be special 23.14.16 # everything is twice as difficult in Bill's world 23.14.25 # Of course Win32 is special. Anything made by Microsoft is retarded. 23.14.58 # Ok. I found the define for BUTTON_MENU. Why doesn't it work? 23.15.22 # It is defined and loaded. Why does the compiler say it isn't defined? 23.16.14 # Whats an #elif? 23.16.40 # else, if 23.17.09 # nikkelitous: i am pretty sure that you need to configure your makefile 23.17.14 Quit tracktheripper (Client Quit) 23.17.32 # just typing "make" in the win32 dir is not going to work 23.18.33 # Found the problem. For some reason you use BUTTON_MENU but it only gets defined if you are emu'ing a player. It doesn't happen for recorder. 23.22.20 # Working. I just made it so that the BUTTON_MENU gets declared no matter what. But it still only does anything using the player. 23.23.26 # nikkelitous: care to fix it and send a patch? 23.23.35 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 23.23.40 # It's a bad hack. 23.23.52 # no, i said "fix it" 23.23.53 # I might submit a patch once I get the whole thing working. 23.24.34 # where in the code do we use BUTTON_MENU when simulating a recorder? 23.25.00 # are you using cygwin? 23.25.02 # You don't. 23.25.16 # Cygwin and Win. 23.25.27 # I was trying Cygwin to see if it worked there. 23.25.33 # And to run the makefile. 23.25.41 # I don't have make in winblows. 23.29.00 # Why does file.h get loaded multiple times? 23.29.42 # Now I'm confused. 23.29.55 # There seems to be 2 different file.hs. 23.31.43 # It also seems like this was designed to be compiled using visual c. 23.31.48 # Now isn't that silly. 23.32.37 # nikkelitous: what rockbox version are you trying to build? 23.32.53 # I'm trying to build the UISimulator. 23.33.24 # version, as in age 23.33.30 # CVS 23.33.35 # Brand new. 23.33.45 # ok 23.33.59 # I know thats bad form but I couldn't find it anywhere else. 23.34.42 # Ok... now all the errors I am getting are in ASM so I'm getting closer. 23.35.06 # The CVS included a VisualC project file. 23.35.37 # Too bad I'm on a boycott of all Visuals. 23.36.06 # I think that a cross-platform language should be capable of going cross-platform. 23.36.24 # J++? What is the advantage of that? 23.38.01 # My brand-new Archos just arived. 23.38.27 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.39.08 Join PsycoXul [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-2.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 23.42.23 Part barker 23.43.53 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB65A60.ipt.aol.com) 23.44.04 # ello :) 23.44.35 # lots of jirc's on aol 23.44.44 # :p 23.44.55 # yes, AOL is my ISP 23.45.00 # ((unfortunatly)) 23.47.14 # :-( 23.47.17 # companies that big are like those inflatable things that kids bounce around in 23.47.27 # and the customers are the air inside 23.47.31 # it's always leaking out, cause they blow 23.47.39 # but marketting is the pump that keeps it full 23.48.30 # :-| 23.49.08 # it's a screwed up system that makes the most successful companies me analogous to those inflatable things 23.49.11 # he 23.49.14 # h 23.49.20 # s/me/be/ 23.49.45 # talk properly 23.49.46 # :-) 23.50.26 # eye yam tawlkeen prawpoorley 23.50.41 # :-( 23.50.48 # (((starts fuming))) 23.50.48 # :-) 23.51.07 # * PsycoXul can smell the fumes 23.51.22 # Breath deep. 23.51.50 # I only have USB 1.1 :(. Need to buy a 2.0 PCMCIA card. 23.51.59 # breathes deeply 23.52.15 # Laptops suck. 23.52.24 # They are hard to upgrade. 23.52.29 # well at least they are "moveable" 23.52.34 # try using your PC on the train :-) 23.52.39 # But Laptops are the only systems that seem to use 'silent' technology. 23.52.54 # I don't move it. It stays right where it is. 23.52.56 # yea they don't whirr like a helicopter taking off :-) 23.53.11 # I have VERY sensitive ears so I refuse to use noisy fans. 23.53.21 # awww 23.53.23 # I might get a desktop with a passive water cooling though. 23.53.35 # I took the fans out and used a Flower heatsink :-) 23.53.43 # That works too. 23.54.01 # But it's hard to take the fan out of the power supply. 23.54.03 # yea 23.54.13 # just rip the damn thing out :-) 23.54.33 # But then the system seems to shoot sparks and send up a lot of smoke 23.54.44 # :-| 23.54.46 # I was young and stupid. Ruined a perfectly good P90. 23.54.52 # awwww 23.55.03 # Cost over $1000 to get a new one. 23.55.09 # You can even buy "processor refrigeration units" 23.55.18 # nikkelitous: i just built a win32 simulator for the very first time in my life 23.55.23 # I hate fridges. 23.55.41 # Really? You had more luck than I did. 23.56.07 # How are they gonna cool the new 1Thz processors when they come out? 23.56.09 # I live in a 5 bedroom house. I am in the smallest room because it is the farthest from the noisy fridge. 23.56.11 # Liquid Nitrogen? 23.56.13 # i installed cygwin and compiled it like i use to compile the x11 simulator and the target firmware 23.56.33 # using the configure script, like i told you 23.56.38 # heh. I'll just have it at the house next door. 23.56.50 # LinusN: I agree... I am an idiot. 23.56.51 # lol 23.56.57 # heehee 23.58.04 # :-( 23.58.07 # I really don't know too much about real-world programming. 4 years of school but around 4 days of experience. 23.58.11 Join Low009 [0] (Mp3@212.116.168.39.knet.co.il) 23.58.19 # read docs/README 23.58.31 # I read all the docs. 23.58.44 # what is the dir called where you have the rockbox source? 23.58.47 # I read everything on the site before I ever came to the IRC.