--- Log for 17.03.103 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 20 days and 14 hours ago 00.28.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.35.22 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.35.23 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.36.08 Mode "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 00.48.11 Quit Snorlax (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.48.11 Join Snorlax_ [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 00.48.27 Nick Snorlax_ is now known as Snorlax (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 00.53.29 Quit adi|home (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.30.03 Quit Snorlax () 01.34.48 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB677F1.ipt.aol.com) 01.34.53 # HI 01.34.54 # everyone 01.34.57 # yo 01.35.04 # hey LinusN 01.35.07 # hows u? 01.35.16 # fine i guess 01.35.27 # What on earth is that request "Make layout of studio 10 like studio 20?" 01.35.35 # beats me 01.35.51 # I thought the Players have the same interface as one another 01.36.04 # they do as far as i know 01.36.07 # be it a 6,10 or 20 01.36.16 # :-) 01.37.28 # Linus is the "firmware menu on bootup" possible? 01.37.34 # its on one request 01.39.00 # easy as pie 01.39.23 # just create a new firmware module 01.39.43 # :-) 01.40.03 # ok ill leave it in ur capable hands :-) 01.40.25 # i doubt that any of the core team members will do it 01.40.47 # oh ok 01.41.01 # we don't feel the need for it, that's all 01.41.08 # anyone can do it though 01.41.37 # yea 01.41.52 # i can see that Rockbox is very close to the 200kb limit now 01.42.00 # yup 01.42.24 # so what would happen once the limit is reached? 01.42.42 # it will be ignored by the ROM firmware 01.42.53 # and rockbox won't be loaded 01.43.03 # aww 01.43.06 # :-( 01.43.22 # unless you could do Rockbox in "two parts" 01.43.28 # yup 01.43.35 # once the first part is loaded then the second part will load 01.43.42 # or use plugin modules for the extra stuff 01.43.53 # like the games 01.44.01 # cool 01.49.01 # L( 01.49.03 # L) 01.49.06 # :-) 01.49.12 Join adi|home [0] (~adiamas@as5300-11.216-194-25-61.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 01.50.00 # hi 01.51.04 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-192-65.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 01.56.19 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 02.28.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.59.29 Mode "#rockbox +o logbot " by LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 02.59.30 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.02.28 Join Blankjeff [0] (~jirc@evrtwa1-ar15-4-65-231-194.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net) 03.03.19 # 'evening. 03.03.28 # hi 03.04.08 # Just installed rockbox, pretty cool. 03.04.14 # thanks 03.04.22 # I'll have to get a linux machine running so I can do some work on it 03.04.36 # great 03.06.50 Part LinusN 03.06.54 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 03.11.00 # well.. you can develope on a windows machine.. 03.11.10 # but linux is just better in general for dev :) 03.11.22 # LinusN: I have sokoban level loading working... 03.11.39 # >shrugs< I've deved on both, don't much care which I use, this seems more suited to linux 03.11.47 # preliminary anyways.. just a few things i need some ideas on if/when you get a sec... 03.12.43 # adi|home: k00l! 03.18.00 # adi|home: I'd say windows with a couple of remote shells and a windows x-windows server is best for devel :) 03.18.24 # all of the funcitonality of linux with the ui benefits of windows 03.18.50 # and frankly, xfree86 is piss poor, I wouldnt have that running on any machine if I could help it ;p 03.19.06 # Heh. I typically just use what I'm getting paid to use. 03.19.33 # i use what i want to use, unless i have to use something else 03.19.45 # well its alright for me, freelance web programmer, i work with whats best for me :) 03.19.49 # i use Windows i i'm forced to 03.19.59 # as long as the end product is what the customer wants ;) 03.20.15 # I work for MS, so you can imagine what I have to use :) 03.21.00 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 03.21.00 # * LinusN is has his fingers on the /kick button 03.21.06 # lol 03.21.13 # >g< 03.21.31 # i tend to use windows as a more advanced and usable x11 ;) 03.21.49 # most of the time im tapping into a ssh 03.22.19 # adi|home: you wanted to discuss something? 03.25.24 # hmm 03.37.14 # any of you headphone junkies? 03.37.20 # I want to buy a pair of good quality headphones... 03.37.45 # goodcans.com seems like they have good advice on the subject 03.37.53 # i use Sony EX-70 buds, i know little about headphones 03.37.58 # i'd get a pair of grado's if i was gonna spend the money on a good pair 03.38.13 # or the only closed-canned sennheisers they reccomend on that site 03.38.16 # either or 03.38.23 # all i've got now is a pair of sony mdr-280's 03.38.38 # which are ok but not as good as i hoped they would be 03.39.11 # i bought them when i thought $30 was a lot for a pair of headphones 03.39.12 # yea 03.39.15 # I have little sony ones 03.39.18 # alright, but leak so much 03.39.20 # do Grados leak? 03.39.24 # only to realize later that $100 is about the least you'll spend on a really good set 03.39.50 # yes 03.39.53 # grado's are open 03.39.56 # hmm 03.40.05 # most of the audiophiles seem to consider the open ones higher quality 03.40.08 # less of a 'tin can' soud 03.40.10 # sound 03.40.47 # thats why i lean towards the closed sennheiser's on that site 03.40.57 # they apparently sound about the best of the closed type ones 03.41.07 # and i really would like a pair that don't leak and that block out external noise well 03.41.33 # if i had an income i'd probably buy both :p 03.41.38 # and see 03.41.46 # the grado's seem kinda weird... 03.41.58 # most of their models, while a pretty big range of prices, all look the same 03.42.08 # i dunno if you could tell the diff by looking between their $100 ones and $300 ones 03.42.27 # and also apparently the earpads are sorta uncomfortable especialy for long periods 03.42.35 # and so it's recomended that you mod them for better earpads 03.43.12 # which the guy who runs goodgans.com says slices of those foam beer/soda can cooler things are the best for 03.43.16 # heh 03.43.59 # maybe it's just me, but spending $100+ on a pair of headphones, and then replacing their padding with a slice of a beer cooler from pic 'n save 03.44.04 # seems really odd :p 03.47.19 # lol 03.47.20 # yea 03.47.23 # I dont want oen ones 03.47.24 # open ones 03.47.37 # .. 03.48.03 # you can spend $1000 on a pair of headphones and a headphone amplifier 03.49.44 # heh 03.50.57 # i use a pair of £15 JVC closed cans 03.51.06 # seem pretty good to me :) 03.51.18 # heh yeah 03.51.28 # i saw the $14k or whatever it was ones on sennheiser.com 03.51.36 # that comes with an all-tube amplifier or whatever 03.51.36 # heh 03.51.44 # heh 03.55.53 Quit Blankjeff (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.56.33 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-192-65.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 04.00.00 Join Blankjeff [0] (~jirc@evrtwa1-ar15-4-65-231-194.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net) 04.00.25 # time to sleep. nite all! 04.00.39 # Got the build working, but the archos doesn't boot it. 04.01.03 # Blankjeff: windows? 04.01.08 # yeah 04.01.23 # player or recorder? 04.01.26 # does the 'recorder' config work with FM recorder too? Seems like it should, but figured I should ask :) 04.01.47 # Blankjeff: the config asks for fm recorder 04.02.07 # different beasts, you need a seperate build for fm recorder 04.02.19 # Hmm, I didn't get that option...I'm grabbing new source now, maybe i had old versions 04.02.32 # Blankjeff: use the latest 04.04.34 # Ahhh, I had an old version...weird, building again 04.05.20 # hmm, now I get 'SYS_TIMEOUT' undeclared... must have done something wrong :) 04.05.51 # are you getting the sources from cvs? 04.06.03 # No,just grabbing the tarball 04.06.12 # suppose I should go through CVS 04.06.33 # you should if you're serious about developing 04.09.23 # i gotta go 04.09.25 Part LinusN 04.11.15 # ls 04.11.21 # heh, wrong window 04.16.15 # That's got it, very nice. Thanks everyone. 04.16.38 # No we'll see if I have the time to actually do what I want to with it. 04.17.43 Quit Blankjeff ("Leaving") 04.28.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.35.29 Join elinenbe [0] (~chatzilla@user-0cev153.cable.mindspring.com) 04.35.29 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.36.35 Quit elinenbe (Remote closed the connection) 04.46.52 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev153.cable.mindspring.com) 05.02.42 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 05.09.43 Quit Jet8810 ("Client Exiting") 06.17.56 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-192-65.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 06.28.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.57.26 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 07.57.26 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.18.07 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-192-65.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 08.18.30 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.18.37 # * dwihno brings out the komplicerade köttkvarn 08.28.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.30.19 Part Zagor_ 08.30.42 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 08.42.43 Quit webmind_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.43.44 Join webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 08.54.59 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp86.contactor.se) 09.11.14 Quit alfieAWAY () 09.11.14 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09.21.22 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-020-227.dsl1.versanet.de) 09.24.30 Join ken0__ [0] (marklar2@80.178.44.106) 09.29.19 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 09.29.25 # morning! 09.47.45 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: its not your ordinary stick of gum") 09.58.15 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB6DC0F.ipt.aol.com) 09.58.20 # hi tracktheripper 09.58.26 # hey:-) 09.58.33 # wats up? 09.59.30 # :D 09.59.45 # Muskelkater 10.00.00 # What's Muskelkater in english? 10.00.04 # heh 10.00.07 # musclecat 10.00.23 # :) 10.01.09 # :( 10.01.11 # ......... 10.02.14 # Muskelkater is that feeling that a completely untrained nerd experiences after taking part at the 'iron man'. 10.02.46 # ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 10.03.14 # * quelsaruk searching a psikiatric in germany 10.03.17 # ;) 10.06.01 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 10.06.25 # hi LinusN 10.06.28 # hi 10.06.33 # Howdy ho! 10.06.33 # bonjour! 10.06.33 # :) 10.06.53 # Hi Linusn:-) 10.09.10 # dwihno: you just wake up to say "hi" to linus? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 10.10.11 # :-) 10.10.14 # quel did u get my email? 10.10.54 # conecting de IMAP server :P 10.11.14 # :D 10.17.51 # oi Quel wakey wakey :P 10.19.47 # ¿?? 10.19.53 # i'm tired 10.19.56 # :) 10.24.12 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.25.53 Nick quelsaruk is now known as quel|coffee (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 10.26.13 # morning Zagor :-) 10.26.43 # morn 10.27.10 # ;-) 10.27.22 # mourn :) 10.27.41 # <--- wishes Zagor would smile from time to time :-) 10.27.52 # :-) 10.28.40 # lol thats better :-) 10.28.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.29.05 # Seems in the web emoticons replace punctuation marks. 10.29.37 # ??? 10.29.45 # well here doesnt have smileys like Yahoo or MSN 10.30.11 # -> upgrade :) 10.30.26 # my trillian does. 10.31.22 # :-) = smile, :-( = frown, :-| = straight, ;-) wink, :-O shocked, :-x = kiss, :-P = stick your tounge out 10.32.31 DBUG Sent KICK langhaarrocker to server 10.32.31 # in trillian: 01,99(pee)01,99 == funny toilet symbol 10.32.31 Kick (#rockbox langhaarrocker :Colourcodes are *not* appreciated here!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se 10.32.52 # quel|coffee: Hah! You know it! 10.33.27 # please don't kick me out, pretty please :-) 10.37.01 # :-) 10.37.09 # quel its about time you defragmented your hard drive ;-) 10.41.54 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 10.49.40 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 10.55.11 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-192-65.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 11.04.47 Quit LinusN ("disconnecting from stoned server.") 11.09.29 Join Bagder [241] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) 11.48.53 # Zagor: Any ideas where to get a Linux USB-mass storage boot floppy? 11.48.53 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.54.10 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 11.54.19 # hey ho LinusN 11.54.28 # yo 11.56.55 # we need a splash(int numticks) function for message displaying 11.57.10 # with wordwrap 11.57.30 # good idea 11.58.04 # possibly also with a keymask for button presses 11.58.45 # i need it badly for the recording 11.58.58 # but i have no time to write it 11.59.09 # I'll try to have a go at it tonight 11.59.17 # cool 11.59.18 # Anja's away for a few days! ;-) 11.59.31 # ;-) 11.59.57 # Help me :) 12.00.03 # I need a USB boot floppy :) 12.00.39 # http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ ? ;-) 12.01.36 # :( 12.01.39 # Too much work 12.02.32 # I bet you won't find any premade one 12.02.50 # so find a suitable project that is close enough 12.03.00 # and adjust accordingly 12.04.33 # Hm,. 12.04.36 # Ya 12.04.38 # *brr* 12.11.33 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|away (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 12.16.22 # * matsl is away: I'm busy 12.28.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.53.35 # * matsl is back (gone 00:37:13) 12.57.26 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.44.106) 12.57.26 Quit ken0__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.09.41 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-192-65.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 13.12.52 # brb 13.12.53 Part elinenbe_ 13.53.17 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe_@user-0cev153.cable.mindspring.com) 13.53.17 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.53.20 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe_@user-0cev153.cable.mindspring.com) 14.07.56 # elinenbe: why did you ask me last week if i liked cycling?? 14.13.09 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 14.16.12 # ej _seb_ 14.23.27 # quel|coffee: I was just wondering. 14.28.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.52.15 # guys, I have been away for the last week, and I can't believe the progress that rockbox has made in the past 10 or so days. Great work! 14.55.15 # :-) 14.55.19 Quit MT (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.56.09 # however, I was expecting a cross-fader and at VERY MINIMAL I figured I could use the jukebox as a gsm phone by today. 14.56.28 # :) 14.57.08 # well u can use rockbox as a gsm phone as of today - just don't expect too much calls :) 14.57.29 Join MT [0] (mt@phhhwwwooooaaarrrr.annwiddecombe.com) 14.57.37 # * Bagder giggles 15.01.50 # * dwihno solved it 15.01.59 # Thanks to FreeBSD startup disks ;D 15.02.00 Join ken0__ [0] (marklar2@80.178.41.59) 15.05.00 # dwihno: any improvement with the new disk code? 15.10.20 Quit ken0 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.15.51 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-192-65.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 15.29.50 # it 15.30.12 # s official -- if you choose to build with demos and games, then then binary is over 200k 15.30.35 # uuuu 15.30.54 # btw 15.30.59 # still works for me though 15.31.02 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/screenshots/ 15.31.07 # I was bored yday 15.31.46 # nice 15.32.02 # more up-to-date than those old ones 15.32.06 # Bagder: nice. 15.32.11 # I like them =) 15.32.27 # I plan to make a few more using different fonts and different languages too 15.32.29 # just to show off more 15.32.50 # make some of the recording screen too! 15.32.56 # maybe we should have some with another font, too. the prop font support makes a big difference. 15.33.03 # yeps 15.33.20 # I could do them side by side or so 15.33.30 # yeah 15.33.53 # the main screenshots link could link to this page instead now 15.34.02 # next time you are bored implement recursive directory playing =) 15.34.10 # haha 15.34.24 # create playlis should do that 15.34.28 # +t 15.34.39 # elinenbe: i have the sokoban level loader almost working.. 15.34.53 # i need opinions first 15.34.56 # I just spent the last week in France... they hate Americans there :O 15.35.08 # adi|home: sounds nice :) 15.35.10 # thats not fair.. the french hate everyone... 15.35.43 # isn't it the other way around? 15.35.48 # 1. how should i decide when the game is won, since the level count is no longer a fixed level. should i parse the file and do a level count? or just keep going till i find no more levels? 15.35.58 # zagor.. the two are not mutually exclusive :) 15.36.12 # just keep going until you find no more levels --thn you win! 15.36.36 # if you parse beforehand, then it will take too long 15.36.41 # and it is unecessary! 15.36.50 # 2. how should i handle a level not loading properly? ie, level 10 is not found.? (assuming that there is a 9, 11... etc) 15.37.02 # i agree. whats why im getting opinions :) 15.37.10 # how do you know what level it is? 9, 11? 15.37.11 Join _MT [0] (mt@phhhwwwooooaaarrrr.annwiddecombe.com) 15.37.21 # each level in the file is just the "next" level 15.37.22 # easy, whatever the last level + 1 15.37.35 # oh. you mean that way.. 15.37.48 # well.. right now there is a level: # tag added 15.37.49 # one could leave the level labels away then 15.38.04 # but i could just as easily just parse for a '\n\n' 15.38.12 # and poof, thats the next level... 15.38.20 # thats not diff... prob better way of handling it.. 15.38.51 # yeah -- we don't need a level: # tag 15.39.03 # levels are separate by white-space lines for example 15.39.10 # works for me... 15.39.14 # * adi|home thinks 15.39.15 # that is good here too. 15.39.36 # that may be it... gotta run to work.. should have a committed version sometime today or so 15.39.58 # cool 15.40.03 # oh, right.. where should the sokoban.levels file go? 15.40.06 # .rockbox? 15.40.12 # yes 15.40.14 # k 15.40.19 # * adi|home is away: work 15.47.56 Quit MT (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.49.35 # what menu was changed in the last week? ON+PLAY? 15.49.51 # where did queue go? 15.51.08 # also, does "disk poweroff" really increase the batterylife much? does anyone use this? 15.51.45 # elinenbe: I do 15.51.57 # Zagor: where did queue go? 15.52.14 # it's still there 15.52.48 # where? in ON+PLAY in browse mode, I get Delete,Rename,VBRFix 15.53.03 # you must be playing to see queue 15.53.18 # ah! duh! 15.53.42 # now, ON+ANYTHING in the WPS is "pitch change" 15.54.05 # that seems bad. 15.54.26 # it's been like that for months 15.55.14 # oh -- well, I just noticed it, and it seems odd. 15.55.42 # also, I think that the ON+PLAY menu should also appear in the main menu as "File Operations" 15.55.43 # yeah, the pitch screen should move to the menu. i'll do that post-2.0 15.55.45 Nick _MT is now known as MT (mt@phhhwwwooooaaarrrr.annwiddecombe.com) 16.01.14 # Pitch should be in the menu under sound options? 16.01.39 # nah, pitch is more an action than a setting 16.02.13 # damn, I lost ;-) 16.02.29 Quit quel|coffee (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.02.43 # hehe 16.06.46 Quit MT (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.07.32 Join ScottE [0] (~ScottE@dsl093-044-065.sac1.dsl.speakeasy.net) 16.11.50 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 16.11.58 # re-hi 16.13.34 Quit quelsaruk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.14.51 # Zagor: I've noticed no skipping yet. 16.18.26 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-020-227.dsl1.versanet.de) 16.19.39 Quit ScottE ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 16.20.02 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 16.20.04 # re 16.28.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.29.07 # Is there anybody who develops rockbox using knoppix? 16.29.51 # langhaarrocker: I sometimes use the knoppix CD. 16.30.48 # I have failed to mount the rb with knoppix. Have you succeded? 16.31.27 # I have not used it recently. 16.31.36 # langhaarrocker: where is the split editor? =) 16.31.47 # * langhaarrocker blushes 16.32.20 # I have been in the air again on the weekend. Afterwards i really needed a bath tube -> no rockbox development 16.33.02 # But our singer quit the band -> seems I won't waste time recording and mixing for a while. 16.33.09 # that sucks. 16.33.20 # yes. 16.33.39 Join TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.114.242.216) 16.35.05 # But before I start the split editor again I assume I'll dig myself into the user bindable keys. Maybe meanwhile someone develops the modules-capability of rockbox. The spliteditor is predestined to be a module. 16.35.21 # yeah -- that is true 16.36.41 # so maybe around xmas ... 16.39.13 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 16.41.26 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-17-210-2.mia.bellsouth.net) 16.42.54 # Have there been discussions about a clipboard yet? 16.43.50 # clipboard? 16.44.03 # copy buffer? like cut & paste? 16.44.21 # copying what? 16.44.23 # eg. for moving files, copying text from id3 tag field to another. 16.44.28 # aha 16.44.51 # we likely won't be using a high-level clipboard for that 16.45.28 # I guess something simple like a fixed sized string would be sufficiant. 16.45.37 # yes 16.46.40 # But that would exclude eg. multiselections in the browser. 16.47.18 # (for moving, copying) 16.47.57 # move, copy files would be nice. 16.48.20 # * langhaarrocker sighs 16.48.54 # langhaarrocker: as I said, we don't need a single method for handling copy/paste. every application can do it differently 16.49.46 # And yet it would be a plus if we could exchange the data. Eg if you want to name a file after some id3 tag you could copy & paste it. 16.50.03 # yeah 16.51.38 # anybody wanna sell me some beyer headphones? 16.52.10 # I have a broken one. (Left side dead). If you want it ... 16.52.40 # But then maybe it's my left ear that's dead... 16.52.54 # yay! i found how to bind 'z' to "back" in mozilla 16.53.03 # heheh go you :) 16.53.22 # in a flash, Mozilla becomes usable :-) 16.53.24 # Don't press z or you'll loose your knowledge! 16.53.43 # i use opera.. so cant say as it helps me :) 16.54.08 # I use Opera too. that's why I'm addicted to the z fastkey 16.54.26 Quit ken0__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.54.33 # hehehe 16.54.42 # I'm a windows user. I use a mouse. BTW: where is that z key? 16.55.14 # langhaarrocker: in the bottom left, where the rest of the (non-german) world has it :-) 16.56.45 # I "love" the fact that there *is* no list of bindable mozilla commands on the net. You must read the source... 16.56.46 # Strange. Doesn't work with internet explorer. :) 16.57.04 # Maybe time to reinstall windows. 16.58.18 # Zagor: If I ever finish that &% key bindings it'll be better: I can already generate html docs from the list of available commands. 16.59.06 # btw... any word on updateing the docs to match our command set? im already _really_ lost on all our commands 17.00.00 # feel free to update :-) 17.00.17 # so that all of us are lost, too? 17.00.43 # hehe, I mean update the docs... 17.07.13 # difficult for me to update for commands i don't know ;) 17.07.24 # wuss ;) 17.07.26 # gotta go 17.07.29 Part Zagor 17.07.30 # damn right 17.09.09 Join Nomad__ [0] (nomad@24-216-225-11.charter.com) 17.09.19 # morning 17.09.21 # got a live bug I think 17.09.28 # I09: CPU error 17.09.33 # worth debugging or just restart? 17.11.15 # Nomad__: just make sure you write down all the info displayed on the screen and describe exactly what you were doing when it occurred 17.11.25 # Nomad__: and report it as a bug 17.11.26 # it's happening right now is the thing 17.11.45 # didn't know if anyone would like to poke it while it's happening or just do a bug report and restart 17.11.53 # Nomad: Ask quelsaruk for a goat. 17.12.17 # Nomad__: there's not really much poking around that can be done 17.12.32 Join Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h53n1fls34o883.telia.com) 17.12.44 # ok, didn't know if being able to ask questions of a live problem would be of any help 17.13.07 # langhaarrocker: um, splain :> 17.13.45 # need to download today's daily build anyway while I'm there 17.13.47 # Nomad__: what does the panic message say? And how did it happen? 17.14.00 # and what version are you running? 17.14.03 # just sittin on my desk playing (I was out of my office when it actually happened) 17.14.10 # it's the daily build from friday morning 17.14.21 # I09:CPUAdrE 17.14.23 Quit TBoy (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.14.25 # at 0000000F 17.14.34 # that's all that's currently on the display 17.14.40 # haven't touched any buttons yet 17.14.41 # Nomad__: then the bug may be solved, if the file is a 320kbit/s file 17.14.45 # and the red light is flashing 17.14.52 # no, should be 192 17.14.55 # ok 17.15.04 # all my stuff is encoded at 192 I believe, some may be 128 17.15.08 # try to repeat it 17.15.23 # we need to be able to repeat it 17.15.25 # anybody wanna buy my 900mhz wireless headphones? 17.15.25 # anything you wnat me to do while it's in this state? (aka guinea pig available) 17.15.36 # Nomad__: nothing to do 17.15.37 # wonder what song it was on 17.15.53 # It was randomly playing out of 8Gigs of music 17.16.28 # I like the resume 17.16.37 # hmm, power off and then on/resume locks right back up 17.17.09 # grr, don't recognize the sone 17.17.18 # so I can't get stats on it 17.17.56 # badness 17.18.10 # sounded like Shaggy, let me try a few 17.18.26 # good luck... 17.18.42 # Shaggy is good :) 17.18.58 # Nomad, msg me what lyrics you remember 17.19.00 # im a reggae junkie 17.19.02 # All I get is one refrain of the chorus "don't you underestimage me" 17.19.13 # walking in my shoes 17.19.14 # Shaggy 17.19.19 # on his new album, Lucky Day 17.19.20 # lol 17.19.25 # That's the only album on here 17.19.34 # I used to have a bunch of his albums but alot got lost/destroyed 17.19.40 # yea 17.19.45 # I have 12 gigs of just Reggae :) 17.19.51 # erf 17.20.06 # I want more, also need to buy some more santana 17.20.10 # heh 17.20.11 # Nomad__: when you find the crashing song, please make it available to us, either attached to a bug report or a URL that I can download it from 17.20.19 # do ytou have high quality headphones Nomad? 17.20.20 # or cheapies? 17.20.22 # will do 17.20.32 # i'm off to eat 17.20.37 # Jet8810: just some cheap ones that work on my motorcycle otherwise I don't use any 17.20.49 # Jet8810: why does it have to be beyer dynamic? 17.20.52 # Jet8810: what # on the album is that song? 17.21.01 # langhaar...I want high quality ones that dont leak 17.21.04 # Beyers seem like the key 17.21.13 # Grados seem to leak too much, as do these $100 pair of sonys my bro has 17.21.15 # bingo #13... figures 17.21.22 # trying to reproduce 17.21.41 # Jet8810: leak in or leak out? 17.21.44 # leak out 17.21.47 # so others cazn hear music 17.21.49 # I dont want that 17.22.16 Part LinusN|away 17.22.22 # well it might be better to know which song you try to sing along ... :) 17.22.28 # Jet8810: have you checked out headphone.com... they have several beyer dynamics 17.24.47 # lol 17.24.51 # thanks 17.25.03 # playted straight through 17.26.42 # Nomad__: with same daily build or latest? 17.26.54 # what's the odds that zagor's fix listed 3/17 is in the "bleeding edge build" that's on the page today 17.27.09 # hardeep: same build and thinking about it it was the bleeding edge posted friday 17.27.22 # -rw------- 1 rharris rharris 111762 Mar 14 09:43 archos-bleeding-20030314.mod 17.27.34 # that's the file (size listed for ID) 17.27.49 # Nomad__: bleeding edge builds are updated every 20 mins so they're always up to date 17.27.54 # ok, cool 17.28.04 # ok, just played the same song through twice without a hang 17.28.11 # so it wasn't the individual song. 17.28.16 # still want me to include it? 17.29.12 # don't see the error code on the bug page so I'll post it 17.33.12 # hmm 17.33.12 # http://www.headphone.com/layout.php?topicID=3&subTopicID=26&productID=0020112508 17.33.18 # those look kickass...and fucking expensive :) 17.45.44 Join MT [0] (mt@phhhwwwooooaaarrrr.annwiddecombe.com) 17.58.48 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 18.18.07 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.18.08 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.18.08 Quit quelsaruk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.27.15 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAAE64.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.29.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.31.51 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 18.32.05 # Nomad__: i want the crashing MP3, not the mod 18.33.19 # He found out it wasn't file specific. 18.37.48 # ok 18.38.01 Join ken0__ [0] (~marklar2@80.178.41.94) 18.44.05 Quit Bagder ("Client Exiting") 18.44.55 Join TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.114.242.216) 18.45.29 # Wich one of you guys uses windows, and what program do you use to code 18.46.03 # i use windows occasionally, and i use emacs to code 18.46.40 # ok cause I want I prog that has a helpful help file like most borland products 18.46.57 # huh? 18.47.34 # for unix users: man pages with gui :) 18.47.35 # yea in borland help files the list alot of function aso. 18.47.42 # aha 18.47.52 # i have used visual C++ and i liked it back then 18.48.04 # i also used C++ builder and i liked that one too 18.48.09 # I have borland c++builder 18.48.22 # but it doesn't show me C code 18.48.37 # i rarely do windows GUI programs though, 18.48.46 # reminds me.. 18.48.50 # LinusN: opinion 18.48.57 # if im looking for a blank line in a file... 18.49.12 # should i be comparing to \n\n or should i take \r into account as well? 18.49.21 # Linux: yeah, I was trying to attach both and hit submit by accident 18.49.59 # adi|work: it depends on who created the file and how 18.50.40 # didn't think you wanted a separate bug report just for me to upload the mp3 18.50.48 # well.. its for the sokoban levels file... 18.50.57 # so its possible it will be edited/created in windows.. 18.51.07 # so i should assume for \r i would think? 18.51.09 # you agree? 18.51.17 # i suggest you create a get_line() function that returns the string up to the next \r or \n 18.51.26 # one more thing 18.51.28 # and then strlen() to check for the empty string 18.51.33 # nods 18.52.18 # Nomad__: you can add files to anm existing report 18.52.29 # ok 18.52.31 # do you guys know of such a documentation 18.54.05 # TBoy: what documentation 18.54.13 # Linux: any idea wht the Bug # was? 18.54.42 # Nomad__: nope, not yet, but i suspect it had to do with the recent file system bug 18.54.54 # ok, 18.56.35 # odd, it's not there (nothingon the page with today's date) 18.58.56 # need to find someone who'll swap my Studio10 and cash for a studio10 with an 8meg chip... blah 19.01.18 Join sdbarker [0] (~sdb@adsl-68-74-103-158.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) 19.01.34 # bleah, don't you just hate it when you add debug code to track down a bug and then it doesn't reproduce 19.01.34 # Kudos to whoever did the Resume feature as well as the shuffler 19.02.32 # * LinusN goes to read a fairy tale to his son 19.02.35 # LinusN: I'm encountering skips every now and then on my AJBR6... still trying to track down what exactly is causing it 19.02.42 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|fairytale (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 19.02.50 Quit TotMacher () 19.02.52 # LinusN: yea like the one I was talking about 19.03.00 # hardeep: aha 19.03.12 # hardeep: vbr? 19.03.29 # LinusN: no, I'm only seeing it on CBR 19.03.35 # oh 19.03.36 # LinusN: right when the song starts... 19.03.51 # I'm thinking it's because it's starting too early... that's where i'm debugging right now 19.04.07 # good luck 19.04.12 # my sin calls 19.04.18 # have fun. :) 19.05.00 # son :-) 19.05.43 # well - occasionally a son results from a sin... 19.06.00 # but that's another fary tale 19.06.23 # "programming is like sex, one mistake and you have to support it for life" 19.06.45 # :) 19.06.50 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 19.07.40 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Dr. Kavorkian would KILL to use BitchX. Shouldn't you?") 19.26.12 # Probably Linus reads Godzilla vs Zombies meets Vampires. 19.26.34 # hehehe 19.28.21 # i thought it was "how the sound bug afected rockbox" 19.29.18 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 19.30.22 # doesn't sound very violent -> wouldn't satisfy kids in these times 19.34.44 Quit Bluechip (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19.35.47 # then... 19.35.55 # langhaarrocker: i have a story for you 19.35.56 # :) 19.36.13 # the warriors' prayer 19.36.40 # granpa Linus told me once and i recorded it 19.37.41 # * langhaarrocker shivers 19.38.40 # let me guess: and just before the plot comes to the end the dictataphone memory of your s55 was full? 19.41.31 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 19.45.12 # not really 19.45.21 # let me check i have it here 19.46.37 Nick LinusN|fairytale is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 19.46.54 # Bagder: don't forget the splash function 19.47.09 # you want the text centered horizonally ? 19.47.15 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|away (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 19.47.16 # no 19.47.18 # LinusN: who got more sleepy? you or your son 19.47.32 # i always fall asleep, but not this time 19.47.47 # gotta go 19.48.07 # splash coming 19.48.07 # cu 19.49.51 Quit ken0__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.50.01 Quit langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 19.55.42 Quit quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 19.56.23 # hmm Bagder? 19.58.59 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-192-65.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 20.00.06 # yes? 20.00.51 Quit edx () 20.01.08 # Hmmmm... i'm only getting the skips at startup if peakmeter is enabled... anyone else seeing this? 20.02.01 # I don't use the peakmeter 20.22.37 Join Pete [0] (jirc@pD9E141F2.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.22.37 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.24.22 # I like to measure my jb runtime. Debug -> View Runtime definetly shows incorrect value. 20.24.34 # Is it a bug? 20.25.21 # possibly, yes 20.26.10 # Ok then. I thought I might be doning something wrong. 20.29.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.45.37 Quit Pete ("Leaving") 20.56.08 Quit Nomad__ ("No windows for this server") 20.58.26 Join quelsaruk [0] (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es) 21.04.33 # is there a float to string function in C and what is it 21.04.49 # TBoy: sprintf() 21.04.50 # sprintf 21.05.03 # LinusN|away: like the splash? 21.05.27 # haven't seen it 21.05.30 # oh 21.05.33 # ok thx 21.05.34 # its committed anyway 21.06.27 # looks usable 21.06.40 # should be a start if nothing else 21.06.44 # we can use that in several places 21.06.49 # yes 21.06.57 # we could replace some other code to use this instead 21.06.58 # like the kaylock/mute splashes 21.10.46 # and the language loaded 21.12.50 # but they might want the text centered... :-) 21.13.09 # i see an extra parameter coming up 21.13.23 # hehe, yeah, and more complicated code 21.14.58 # time to go home! 21.15.09 # bye quelsaruk 21.15.09 # have a nice night 21.15.11 # where is the clock code 21.15.21 # TBoy: the clock code? 21.15.35 # where the clock gets shown on the status bar 21.15.46 # status.c i guess 21.15.51 # ok thx 21.17.00 # Bagder: maybe we should consider splashf(...)? 21.17.28 # ah, you need that? 21.17.45 # i though it would be nice for %-formatted LANG strings 21.17.53 # it would 21.18.06 # then the caller wouldn't need to sprintf into a local buffer all the time 21.18.09 Part quelsaruk (""Eve's Avatar - Avatar's Eve"") 21.18.10 # I fix 21.19.07 # darn windows sim got yellow 21.20.17 # LinusN: the startup skip i'm encountering is because playing is starting too soon (not enough data swapped) on my AJBR6 21.21.11 # i'm only seeing it with peak meter enabled right now... but i think it might happen even without it 21.23.21 # the following quick fix solves the problem... but it's probably not right right solution: http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/mpeg.diff 21.23.39 # er, s/right right/the right 21.25.22 # anyone remember the url for that sliders demo? 21.25.25 # the horizontal one? 21.25.49 # nope 21.26.39 # damnit.. gotta dig into the mailling list again 21.37.15 # LinusN|away: adding a center parameter as well 21.47.44 # whats the max volume we can have? 21.47.46 # 100? 21.47.55 # and is that defined somewhere? 21.48.37 # mpeg.c 21.49.28 # this is the code that shows the time, right? 21.49.28 # #ifdef HAVE_RTC 21.49.28 # tm = get_time(); 21.49.28 DBUG Sent KICK TBoy to server 21.49.28 # statusbar_time(tm->tm_hour, tm->tm_min); 21.49.28 Kick (#rockbox TBoy :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se 21.49.43 Join TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.114.242.216) 21.49.47 # he he 21.50.33 # guys did anyone get my flood 21.50.54 # that's clock code, yes 21.51.02 # ok 21.55.27 # splash(int ticks, int keymask, bool center, char *fmt, ...) 21.56.33 # center looks nice! 21.59.48 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/screenshots/ <= new screenshots I made yday 22.00.09 # could I just get/copy the time output from the status.c to the wps 22.00.16 # wps-display.c 22.00.41 # why would you? get_time() returns the time 22.01.21 # oh excuse me, *cough* noobs on patrol *cough* 22.01.28 # hehe 22.01.36 # just use that function wherever you want the time 22.02.08 # ok thx 22.02.12 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-192-65.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 22.10.43 Join josh966 [0] (~chatzilla@ak.nlc.com) 22.11.11 # alarming bug! the credits are rolling using the wrong font 22.14.32 # bagder you should update the link on your site to the new screenshots 22.14.42 # it still directs to the old ones 22.14.49 # yes 22.14.57 # I'll do that 22.16.08 # how could I make the statusbar use the same font as my wps 22.16.32 # lcd_setfont 22.16.48 # ok 22.16.54 # thx once again 22.19.44 Join bu88a1 [0] (~dlr@catermate.com) 22.19.47 Quit bu88a1 (Client Quit) 22.21.55 # cu 22.22.15 Quit TBoy () 22.29.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.35.18 # hmmm we don't have a way to write a string based off a pixel location do we... only by char location 22.35.36 # yes we do 22.35.43 # lcd_puts places by char.. 22.35.47 # what should i be using 22.35.54 # lcd_putsxy(x, y, string) 22.36.09 # ahh oaky 22.50.41 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@user-0cev108.cable.mindspring.com) 22.51.33 # http://phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/window.png 22.51.40 # what do you think? step in the right direction? 22.51.50 # nothing works on it yet.. im working on the drawing part first 22.52.07 # its looking good 22.52.25 # you need to consider how to mark the active one too 22.52.29 # adi|work: I would make sure you have the numeric values in there too. 22.52.42 # right, add the numerical one too 22.53.03 # yup.. i plan on it... 22.53.07 # nods 22.53.16 # im going to follow http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/suggest/graph_sound_digital_sliders3.png 22.53.19 # as much as possible 22.53.30 # goodie 22.53.38 # that one looks nice 22.54.05 # should the cursor always stay in the center and the screen scroll behind it, or should it scroll to the top, then scroll the screen? 22.54.10 # that one looks like it's got half-full boxes too heh 22.54.31 # hehe yeah.. i won't be doing that.. 22.54.34 # either full or not... 22.54.37 # adi|home: I say it should scroll to the top and then move the screen 22.54.42 # 25 boxes should be enough across the screen 22.56.21 # know what would be nice? an sprintf function that wrote to the lcd 22.56.26 # * Bagder walks off to take a shower 22.56.27 # like lcd_sprintf 23.04.54 Part sdbarker 23.05.20 # mmm, ice cream 23.07.19 # with my remake of the sprintf code, a lcd_printf() would be really easy to add 23.10.50 # added a few more shots at http://rockbox.haxx.se/screenshots/ 23.25.12 # SLEEP! 23.25.13 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 23.25.28 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23.40.48 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m131.net81-67-41.noos.fr) 23.40.48 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.40.54 # Hiiiiiiii 23.43.17 Quit elinenbe_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))