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00.02.24 #       <adi|work> phobos.ramapo.edu/~rhak/misc/window.png
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00.02.39 #       <adi|work> work for you?
00.02.48 #       <Bagder> I like it
00.02.50 #       <adi|work> k
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00.03.20 #       <adi|work> do the same with shuffle?
00.03.39 #       <Bagder> I doubt we need to show the shuffle text
00.04.03 #       <Bagder> I use a 3400 song playlist all the time, I hardly see that text
00.04.03 #       <adi|work> comment it out for now? see if anyone notices? or just remove it?
00.04.09 #       <adi|work> heheh k
00.04.15 #       <adi|work> ill remove them.. less updates
00.04.30 #       <Bagder> yes, I think that's fine
00.04.42 #       <adi|work> i assume i should leave the status_draws in?
00.04.55 #       <Bagder> hm
00.05.01 #       <Bagder> I think not
00.05.04 #       <adi|work> k
00.05.11 #       <Bagder> the splash() may in fact overwrite the status bar
00.05.20 #       <Bagder> well
00.05.24 #       <Bagder> at least in theory
00.05.28 #       <adi|work> k
00.05.44 #       <adi|work> well.. ill leave the loading now, because i need to run.. ill get the rest of the playlist stuff later
00.05.58 #       <Bagder> sure
00.06.04 #       <Bagder> no rush
00.08.39 #       <adi|work> Playing... could go away to right? i never see that either
00.08.45 #       <Bagder> yeah
00.11.25 #       <adi|work> updated.. so long
00.12.51 #       <MT> hmm
00.13.00 #       <MT> i wonder if i could code some funky transitions
00.13.12 #       <MT> perhaps a dissolve
00.13.36 #       <adi|work> that would be cool :)
00.13.53 #       <Bagder> well, we don't actually store what the screen looked like before the splash pops up...
00.13.58 #       <MT> heck, i coded a spectrograph for my 48k spectrun, should be able to cope with one for my 2 MB jukebox \o/
00.24.39 #       <Bagder> hahaha
00.24.39 #       * Bagder reads a feature-request
00.24.43 #       <Bagder> "tweak the firmware so the Archos will put an end to the iraqi crisis."
00.24.56 #       <MT> its doable tbh
00.25.07 #       <MT> are you hiding WMD in there?
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00.29.32 #       <Bagder> night
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00.57.02 #       <REBELinBLUE> w00t! I just wrote my first rockbox function :D
00.59.11 #       <REBELinBLUE> OK so it's crappy, buggy as hell and barely works but still :D
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01.44.56 #       <Temfate> in regard to the 400 maximum files in a directory... Do sub-directories count???
01.51.51 #       <PsycoXul> no
01.56.12 #       <elinenbe> no
02.09.06 #       <Temfate> Next question; anyone know if someone is working on the FM tuner code yet? Also; is there any public info on how/what triggers the pll tuning?
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04.48.56 #       <Guest3> I was wondering if anyone could reccommend a recent target build or better still a stable daily.  Been having hd freezing probs with daily 030312
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08.16.12 #       <adi|home> howdy
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08.34.38 #       <adi|home> bagder!
08.34.42 #       <Bagder> morning
08.34.47 #       <adi|home> morning
08.35.32 #       <Bagder> I like the loading thing you fixed
08.36.25 #       <Bagder> the new splash is good eye candy
08.37.57 #       <dwihno> :-)
08.38.07 #       <dwihno> Yum! I like Splash bigtime!
08.38.24 #       <dwihno> What is the --nogap LAME option really?
08.39.05 #       <Bagder> "gapless encoding for a set of contiguous files" :-O
08.39.26 #       <dwihno> Erhm
08.39.36 #       <dwihno> Producing a single file out of all supplied arguments?
08.39.52 #       <dwihno> Say "jarå" and I'll shuddup ;D
08.40.19 #       <Bagder> I *think* it keeps data and info from the previous file, when multiple files are encoded 
08.40.45 #       <Bagder> its for encoding multiple files that are a single recording split up
08.40.53 #       <dwihno> ah
08.41.13 #       <Bagder> so when used, it can make players play them gapless
08.41.33 #       <dwihno> How about those CD's with zero-gap tracks? (such as remix CD's)
08.41.49 #       <Bagder> it can probably be used on those
08.43.16 #       <Hes> It moves a bit of audio data from the end of the previous track to the start of the next track (or the other way around) so that the audio ends on an MPEG frame boundary
08.43.32 #       <dwihno> mkay
08.44.05 #       <Hes> I did a similar perl script for raw audio data files, for mastering CDs - they have a very similar problem since audio tracks must be multiples of CD sector size
08.44.23 #       <Hes> (2352 bytes)
08.44.52 #       <Bagder> btw
08.45.02 #       <Bagder> how fast do the playlist load on your units?
08.45.27 #       <Bagder> it's darned fast on mine
08.45.52 #       <dwihno> Hmm, my 4000-something loads in 2 "ticks"
08.45.55 #       <Bagder> the 2000 - 3500 speed I wrote in the features docs seems like an understatement
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08.46.44 #       <adiamas> that splash screen is sweet :)
08.47.13 #       <Bagder> I just tried resuming and it looks neat then too
08.48.06 #       <dwihno> Bagder: would be neat with a counter in the debug info perhaps
08.48.21 #       <dwihno> Playlist loading speed or something like that
08.51.23 #       <Bagder> not a bad idea, no
08.53.40 #       <dwihno> Ideas for free - that's me ;D
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08.53.52 #       <dwihno> I really do enjoy the Splash btw. It's neato^2!
08.55.03 #       <PsycoXul> http://psyco.yi.org:8042/bitwave.html
08.56.59 #       <adiamas> how would you have a playlist loading speed in debug?
08.57.10 #       <adiamas> would it change each time you laod a new playlist?
09.00.23 #       <Bagder> yes
09.02.40 #       <PsycoXul> that bitwave.html is what sony's DSD, which is used on SACD, looks like, or at least similar
09.02.48 #       <PsycoXul> for a 1760hz sine wave
09.04.10 #       <PsycoXul> that's about 0.001 seconds worth heh
09.04.43 #       <adiamas> CVS Repository ( 4,310 commits, 966 adds )
09.04.46 #       <adiamas> hehehe
09.06.22 #       <adiamas> damn 10k + page veiws on the 17th
09.07.37 #       <Bagder> it would be cool to know how many people that run rockbox
09.08.59 #       <dwihno> 10? :)
09.09.21 #       <Bagder> no, it gotta be at least 12!
09.09.35 #       <dwihno> That sounds awfully much! ;)
09.10.01 #       <adiamas> perhaps we need a web pole, or something on the forums?
09.13.31 #       <adiamas> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/surveys?id=954399
09.13.32 #       <adiamas> :)
09.25.02 #       <Bagder> crapage
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09.25.13 #       <Bagder> hey dr zivago
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09.25.16 #       <Zagor> yo
09.26.24 #       <Bagder> check the compile stats
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09.26.34 #       <dwihno> Zagor: I got RED LED DEAD today, but I noticed something as well. The time counter kept running, until I pressed stop. Then everything froze.
09.26.58 #       <Zagor> yeah. the counter and loader are two separate threads
09.29.09 #       <Bagder> Zagor: you should rebuild things with the new head.t on the site
09.29.21 #       <Bagder> for the new screenshot url
09.29.40 #       <Bagder> Zagor: can you attempt to measure your playlist loading speed?
09.29.54 #       <Bagder> I suspect it is much faster than 3500 songs/sec now
09.30.15 #       <Bagder> in fact, with the removed "counter" it feels even faster
09.30.24 #       <Bagder> imho
09.30.37 #       <Zagor> Bagder: it parses about 4000 entries/s as far as I see.
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09.30.46 #       <Bagder> ok
09.30.51 #       <Zagor> the first display shows ~1000 and the next ~5000 
09.31.04 #       <adi|home> stupid machine
09.33.36 #       <dwihno> Playlist parsing at the speed of lightning :D
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09.41.50 #       <Bagder> silly bot
09.44.03 #       <dwihno> ><))))8> ?
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10.40.05 #       <quelsaruk> hi
10.40.34 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: the op status is to remind me i must be quiet 'till 2.0 is released?
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10.41.02 #       <Bagder> :-)
10.44.38 #       <Zagor> which showstoppers are left?
10.45.01 #       <Zagor> the ata problem will probably have to stay through 2.0
10.45.49 #       <Bagder> we should ask linus
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10.48.12 #       <quelsaruk> :)
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11.14.22 #       <Dinsdale> hello
11.14.27 #       <Bagder> hey
11.14.35 #       <Dinsdale> ?
11.15.11 #       <Dinsdale> is it possible to ask a question about the archos studio 20 in here?
11.15.24 #       <Bagder> try us
11.15.54 #       <Dinsdale> this might be very basic...please forgive me if it's an obvious question...
11.16.09 #       <Dinsdale> what should I see on the archos lcd after the firmware information?
11.17.00 #       <Bagder> I guess it should change screen and display something else, like a menu or dir contents
11.17.02 #       <Dinsdale> the reason I ask, I can xfer files to the archos as a hd...
11.17.02 #       <Dinsdale> the OS sees the drive
11.17.05 #       <Bagder> are you running rockbox?
11.17.11 #       <Dinsdale> not yet
11.17.18 #       <Dinsdale> here's the rub...
11.17.28 #       <Dinsdale> the lcd does not advance past the firmware information
11.17.47 #       <Dinsdale> and If I place the unit next to my ear, I hear "lots" of hd activity
11.17.56 #       <Dinsdale> I never get a navigation or any menu
11.18.22 #       <Dinsdale> this was with both the archos.mod from archos, and the archos.mod from rockbox
11.18.35 #       <Dinsdale> it's a new unit...I'm wondering if something is buggered in it...
11.18.45 #       <Bagder> sounds like it bugs
11.19.13 #       <Dinsdale> bugs as in it's toast, or it's got firmware / os bugs?
11.19.17 #       <Zagor> Dinsdale: have you tried without any archos.mod at all?
11.19.18 #       <Bagder> I've never seen a studio 20 boot so I don't know what follows the fm ver screen
11.19.33 #       <Bagder> fw even
11.19.47 #       <Dinsdale> zagor: yes, without, with archos and with rockbox
11.19.57 #       <Dinsdale> same non-responsiveness
11.20.04 #       <Dinsdale> it functions fine as a hd
11.20.19 #       <Dinsdale> I just cant get it to play an mp3!
11.20.42 #       <Zagor> it's broken. take it back and ask for a new one.
11.20.56 #       <Dinsdale> I thought as much...
11.21.09 #       <Dinsdale> I was "hoping" there was something I wasn't doing properly...
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11.22.11 #       <tracktheripper> morning
11.23.54 #       <Dinsdale> just a thought folks...
11.24.14 #       <Dinsdale> does anyone know if the studio 20 was shipped with mp3's already on it?
11.24.19 #       <Dinsdale> say 3, or 4?
11.24.27 #       <tracktheripper> yea
11.24.28 #       <tracktheripper> mine was
11.24.45 #       <Dinsdale> jack: u got a studio 20?
11.25.01 #       <PsycoXul> yeah i think mine did
11.25.28 #       <Dinsdale> guys, if you have, or are familar with a studio 20...
11.25.28 #       <tracktheripper> well mine is actually a recorder 10 but i think all archoses come wiv free mp3s
11.25.46 #       <Dinsdale> how long does it take to get to the menus (boot) after the firmware info?
11.25.53 #       <PsycoXul> mine's a studio20
11.26.05 #       <PsycoXul> dunno
11.26.12 #       <PsycoXul> with archos firmware or rockbox?
11.26.14 #       <PsycoXul> either way i never timed it
11.26.15 #       <PsycoXul> heh
11.26.24 #       <Dinsdale> nothing like 3 or 4 minutes or more, I hope?
11.26.45 #       <Dinsdale> mine seems to "hang" on the firmware screen
11.26.46 #       <tracktheripper> takes just a few seconds
11.27.12 #       <Dinsdale> damn...
11.27.26 #       <tracktheripper> Are Badger's splashscreens implemented in Rockbox yet?
11.27.31 #       <Dinsdale> One left on the shelf, and I pick one that's TU....just my luck
11.27.48 #       <Dinsdale> thanks for the input folks...
11.27.51 #       <PsycoXul> heh no not that long
11.27.57 #       <tracktheripper> well if its faulty take it bakc
11.27.58 #       <tracktheripper> back
11.28.20 #       <Dinsdale> you bet I will...but it was the only one in the store! :(
11.28.25 #       <PsycoXul> does the HD spin up or does it sound "stuck" too like it keeps trying?
11.28.28 #       <tracktheripper> awwwwww
11.28.49 #       <tracktheripper> Should you take it back get a Recorder, don't get a Player
11.28.51 #       <Dinsdale> Psyco: it spins up, and "clicks"....
11.29.01 #       <PsycoXul> clicks?
11.29.08 #       <Dinsdale> head clicking
11.29.23 #       <PsycoXul> repeatedly or just like normally like HD's do when reading data?
11.29.26 #       <Dinsdale> if you hold it to your ear you can hear the head access across the cylinders
11.29.37 #       <Dinsdale> sounds like normal data access.
11.29.54 #       <Dinsdale> but I 'never' get a navigation, or playback menu on the lcd
11.30.06 #       <Dinsdale> works fine as a usb hd tho
11.30.11 #       <tracktheripper> Dinsdale does it work when u plug the USB cable in?
11.30.12 #       <PsycoXul> with archos firmware or rockbox?
11.30.18 #       <Dinsdale> either
11.30.23 #       <PsycoXul> hmm
11.30.33 #       <PsycoXul> odd
11.30.35 #       <Bagder> Dinsdale: tried removing the .mod completely?
11.31.00 #       <tracktheripper> Hi Badger
11.31.07 #       <Bagder> 'lo
11.31.12 #       <PsycoXul> hehe
11.31.16 #       * PsycoXul lets the master take over
11.31.19 #       <PsycoXul> i'm off to bed, goodnight
11.31.21 #       <tracktheripper> how are ya?
11.33.18 #       <tracktheripper> What does VBRFix do?
11.33.24 #       <tracktheripper> its found in the same screen as Rename
11.33.41 #       <Bagder> it attempts to fix the xing header in a vbr mp3
11.33.48 #       <tracktheripper> ohhh
11.34.07 #       <tracktheripper> im just having thoughts about the inverted video line
11.34.20 #       <tracktheripper> It looks pretty but is somewhat slower to refresh than the cursor
11.42.13 #       <dwihno> indeed
11.42.17 #       <dwihno> that's the price you pay
11.43.17 #       <tracktheripper> yea
11.43.31 #       <tracktheripper> ive just been playing wiv it on Joauams interface
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11.54.03 #       <elinenbe> morning!
11.56.27 #       <quelsaruk> morning
11.57.02 #       <langhaarrocker> quelsaruk as an Ops? Isn't that to dangerous?
11.57.26 #       <tracktheripper> MORNING!!!!!!!
11.57.33 #       <quelsaruk> quite dangerous
11.57.46 #       <quelsaruk> but Bagder is today really crazy, he's gone wild
11.57.49 #       <quelsaruk> so i have the power
11.57.54 #       <quelsaruk> ;)
11.57.57 #       <tracktheripper> awwwww
11.58.31 #       <tracktheripper> :-O
11.58.32 #       <langhaarrocker> apropos crazy: If you ever encounter Apocalyptica in your hometown - don't miss it.
11.58.33 #       <tracktheripper> :-P
11.59.40 #       <quelsaruk> sure!
12.00.07 #       <tracktheripper> so no more cruelty to Archos Jukeboxes then :-)
12.08.18 #       <elinenbe> I love the new splsh screens -- it makes the rockbox look very professional
12.08.52 #       <tracktheripper> they are only on playlist right now
12.08.56 #       <Bagder> yeps, really neat eye candy
12.09.44 #       <tracktheripper> when will we see more splashes Bagder?
12.10.21 #       <Bagder> when time permits
12.10.24 #       <langhaarrocker> feature freeze doesn't seem to be very strict :)
12.10.42 #       <Bagder> oops ;-)
12.10.53 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: remember my idea about "windows comment boxes"
12.10.55 #       <quelsaruk> ;)
12.10.56 #       <Bagder> it was actually a request from linus for his recorder stuff
12.11.20 #       <Bagder> not a new feature, only making a generic function for this kind of pop-up stuff
12.11.30 #       <Bagder> then it turned out so much nicer than before ;-)
12.11.50 #       <dwihno> :)
12.12.24 #       <tracktheripper> Badger go the whole hog and do a total Windows interface for the recorder :-)
12.13.38 #       <langhaarrocker> Are there any usb mice with usb master capabilities? They could write the position on hd so we can read it. With hd cache that shouldn't be that slow... :)
12.15.38 #       <quelsaruk> langhaarrocker: why don't we use the scrren as a "touch" mouse
12.15.59 #       <quelsaruk> we could press with our fingers and use it as a mouse :)
12.16.46 #       <langhaarrocker> Or we could record the sound when you shove the archos over the table, analyse it and calculate the direction of the motion. voila.
12.17.08 #       <tracktheripper> or being sensible use the Recorder's arrow keypad to move the arrow around and Play/pause to click
12.18.18 #       <langhaarrocker> Nah, the arrow keys becomes a jog dial. You must rub your finger over them cirucular.
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12.18.44 #       <tracktheripper> and on the Players the ON button will be used as the circle keypad doesn't have a middle play button
12.18.44 #       <LinusN> Zagor: you were asking about showstoppers
12.19.23 #       <LinusN> i want the remote control to work when keylock is on
12.19.41 #       <quelsaruk> hi LinusN
12.19.47 #       <LinusN> i want working S/PDIF feedback (i'll do this tonight)
12.19.50 #       <tracktheripper> Hi Linusn
12.19.50 #       <tracktheripper> N
12.19.53 #       <LinusN> hi all
12.20.04 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
12.20.06 #       <tracktheripper> lo all :-)
12.20.13 #       <LinusN> i want to complete the C
12.20.18 #       <LinusN> the VBRfix code
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12.21.37 #       <quelsaruk> LinusN: that means that nowadays we can't use digital in to record??
12.22.14 #       <tracktheripper> <------- is Away be back later
12.23.46 #       <LinusN> quelsaruk: it works, but the levelk meter
12.23.53 #       <LinusN> but the level meters don't
12.24.03 #       <quelsaruk> ammhh
12.24.22 #       <LinusN> i finally got myself a S/PDIF device to test with
12.24.29 #       <quelsaruk> i tried it last week, and thought it wasn't usable yet :)
12.25.05 #       <LinusN> i discovered that my laptop had an S/PDIF output (in the S-video connector)
12.25.13 #       <elinenbe> LinusN: I was wondering.. when you make a recording does it automatically implement the VBRFix?
12.25.29 #       <LinusN> elinenbe: no, it doesn't. that would take too much time
12.25.48 #       <LinusN> not possible to do in real-time
12.25.58 #       <LinusN> so you have to post-process it
12.26.03 #       <elinenbe> oh.
12.26.14 #       <LinusN> but it inserts an empty Xing header
12.26.17 #       <elinenbe> could it be done in the background while another recording is being made?
12.26.28 #       <LinusN> so the file is recognized as a VBR file
12.26.58 #       <LinusN> the vbrfix code uses the entire mp3 buffer
12.27.20 #       <elinenbe> oh.  what does the wps end up showing for the bitrate?
12.27.22 #       * LinusN remembers that he forgot to add the "please stop the music" splash in vbrfix
12.27.36 #       <LinusN> 0 kbps
12.27.39 #       * elinenbe likes the new splash
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12.28.31 #       <langhaarrocker> LinusN: I haven't tried for a while - but did you know that when you use the jukebox as a spdif source it used to interrupt the spdif stream when songs changed? The interruption makes the spdif drain resyncronize and drop some audio.
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12.41.17 #       <Linus|away> langhaarrocker: it shouldn't do that unless there is a gap in the mp3 stream
12.41.35 #       <Linus|away> all gaps whould be gone in the current builds
12.41.38 #       <Linus|away> should
12.42.22 #       <langhaarrocker> I know that you improved the id3 tag skip stuff thus I wouldn't be surprised if the problem has gone.
12.42.34 #       <langhaarrocker> Haven't tried since then.
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12.52.18 #       <dwihno> Glögg?
12.52.33 #       <langhaarrocker> LinusN: I'm not sure but it might be an interesting idea to intentionally interrupt the spdif stream on song changes. There are md recorders that note this as a track change and generate a new track on the md. Good for copying whole albums.
12.52.53 #       <matsl> dwihno: I just ran out of it.
12.53.08 #       <Linus|away> langhaarrocker: good point
12.53.09 #       <dwihno> matsl: That's bad news indeed :~(
12.53.13 #       <dwihno> *installing JRE*
12.53.15 #       <matsl> dwihno: Sorry. bb next year.
12.53.16 #       * dwihno does not like java
12.53.49 #       <langhaarrocker> java is cool
12.53.51 #       <elinenbe> langhaarrocker: that would be better off as an option
12.54.01 #       <Linus|away> elinenbe: of course
12.54.06 #       <langhaarrocker> elinenbe: yes definitly
12.54.08 #       <matsl> dwihno: are you installing it just so that you can delete it?
12.55.10 #       <elinenbe> I think we should have an "errata" for the 2.0 build.
12.55.20 #       <elinenbe> bugs which are known about but not yet fixed
12.55.31 #       <elinenbe> unless, of course, all bugs are fixed!
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13.03.14 #       <dwihno> matsl: I don't like JRE... But I need it for some (dumbass) management utility
13.16.51 #       <Bagder> elinenbe: feel free to make/start such a list ;-)
13.17.47 #       <Linus|away> we really need to fix the remote control keylock issue, it's embarrassing
13.18.18 #       <Bagder> I disagree
13.18.21 #       <Zagor> Linus|away: I disagree
13.18.29 #       <Zagor> very few people use the remote.
13.18.30 #       <Linus|away> that's because you don't use the remote
13.18.39 #       <Zagor> it's a silly problem. but it's not critical.
13.18.43 #       <Bagder> if people really cared that much, we would've gotten a patch long ago
13.19.12 #       <Linus|away> only clueless people have a remote, so they can't make a patch :-)
13.19.19 #       <Bagder> hehe
13.19.30 #       <Linus|away> (zagor has one)
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13.20.25 #       <elinenbe> I think the most important issue pending 2.0 is the doom port
13.20.39 #       <Linus|away> yeah, it still has bugs
13.22.03 #       <Linus|away> the drive spins up when i fire the rocket rifle
13.22.18 #       <Linus|away> and the explosions are distorted
13.22.32 #       <elinenbe> and the sounds need to be updated to 320kbps mp3s
13.22.38 #       <Linus|away> yeah
13.23.00 #       <elinenbe> also, I don't like the slowdown with over 30 sprites on the screen
13.23.07 #       <elinenbe> that should be addressed
13.23.14 #       <Linus|away> and the graphics on the player version is still a bit rough
13.23.16 #       <Bagder> I think I've noticed slight bad fps-rates when I see more than 20 enemies on the screen at the same time
13.23.45 #       <Linus|away> Bagder: did you use the "turbo" option?
13.24.17 #       <elinenbe> but, whoever did the patch that updates the player to the recorder display without any harware modifications has fixed that pretty well.
13.24.32 #       <Bagder> nope, I only used the super-boost option, I thought that implied turbo
13.25.30 #       <elinenbe> no, you also have to select turbo -- I am fixing that right now.
13.28.11 #       <elinenbe> brb
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13.49.48 #       <langhaarrocker> shriek
13.50.02 #       <Bagder> cool huh? ;-)
13.50.10 #       <langhaarrocker> yea.
13.50.18 #       <Bagder> its actually only in the cvs build table atm
13.51.11 #       <langhaarrocker> I still wonder wether I want to do the mod: there really is no reason to do so besides just for doing it.
13.51.43 #       <Bagder> slightly longer battery life
13.52.30 #       <langhaarrocker> I've never run out of batteries yet. I use the thing on train journeys mainly which hardly take longer the half an hour.
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15.19.10 #       <langhaarrocker> weather calls me. Must go flying
15.19.21 #       <langhaarrocker> cu
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15.28.00 #       <elinenbe> quick question... splash() works on both player and recorder, so I can just make a call to it without and #ifdefs
15.28.09 #       <Bagder> yes
15.28.28 #       <Bagder> as long as you use a keymask that both units have
15.29.07 #       <elinenbe> cool
15.29.58 #       <Zagor> Bagder: did you fix the "side borders"?
15.30.24 #       <Bagder> nope
15.30.35 #       <Bagder> room for improvement
15.33.06 #       <Bagder> should be an easy fix of course
15.33.46 #       <Bagder> we should also try to get the second line scrolling on players, in case it doesn't fit
15.34.19 #       <dwihno> Do you guys know why USB2 disk transfers are < 480 mbit/s?
15.34.30 #       <Bagder> because the disk isn't fast enough
15.34.41 #       <elinenbe> Because your processor is a 485
15.34.44 #       <elinenbe> 486
15.34.45 #       <elinenbe> !
15.35.30 #       <Bagder> off
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15.36.53 #       <dwihno> No way! The disk is fast as foo!
15.37.38 #       <elinenbe> maybe your disk is slow as foo!
15.40.15 #       <elinenbe> splash() does not seem to work with scrolling wps lines
15.40.47 #       <Zagor> elinenbe: you mean the scroll doesn't stop?
15.41.05 #       <elinenbe> I have changed the keylock and mute texts to splash
15.41.16 #       <elinenbe> and lines that scroll just overwrite it.
15.41.23 #       <elinenbe> blah!
15.42.15 #       <elinenbe> Zagor: get to work on it! ;)
15.42.24 #       <Zagor> :)
15.43.14 #       <elinenbe> is it easy to stop scrolling under that?
15.43.38 #       <Zagor> lcd_stop_scroll() 
15.43.50 #       <elinenbe> well, that is too easy.
15.43.58 #       <elinenbe> wiil that stop all lines scrolling?
15.46.00 #       <elinenbe> Zagor: how do you restart scrolling lines/
15.46.28 #       <Zagor> you don't... :-)
15.46.35 #       <Zagor> wps_refresh() or something like it
15.46.42 #       <elinenbe> okay =)
15.53.46 #       <elinenbe> a problem with wps_refresh is it resets all the scroll lines.
15.54.00 #       <Zagor> yes
15.54.14 #       <elinenbe> blah.
15.54.46 #       <elinenbe> I'll let someone else fix it. I have to go fix our server here.
15.56.27 #       <elinenbe> hint (Zagor) ;)
15.56.55 #       <Zagor> "introducing the car CD changer project"   <---- yay!
15.57.07 #       <elinenbe> that is really nice.
15.57.34 #       <elinenbe> it can be powered on using uwe's alarm mod -- right?
15.57.53 #       <Zagor> only timed power-on
15.58.11 #       <elinenbe> couldn't you connect the power on to the cd changer power on?
15.58.31 #       <elinenbe> it could be done pretty easily with a mod
16.00.34 #       <Zagor> yeah, but the changer project aims to not need any mods
16.01.11 #       <elinenbe> well, how is it going to plug into the car changer harness?  I thought they already modded it.
16.01.53 #       <Zagor> no, they use a more complex serial code to make half-duplex read/write possible
16.02.58 #       <elinenbe> I see that... so, you are able to read/write to the remote pin on the archos?
16.03.49 #       <elinenbe> the remote is a 4 headed plug -- right?
16.04.22 #       <Zagor> yes
16.04.48 #       <Zagor> but you need an equally complex half-duplex device on the other end...
16.05.08 #       <elinenbe> ah, so theoretically if you had a nice data protocol written you could send a song from one jukebox to another with a 4head-4head cable (albiet slowly)
16.05.24 #       <Zagor> yes
16.05.34 #       <elinenbe> this is exciting.
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16.16.05 #       <quelsaruk> hey..
16.16.13 Mode    "#rockbox -o quelsaruk " by quelsaruk (~zaknafein@faerun.ugr.es)
16.16.23 #       <quelsaruk> if bagder is not op.. i'm not op :)
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16.38.51 #       <elinenbe> quelsaruk: you can make me op.
16.43.02 #       <quelsaruk> nops
16.43.06 #       <quelsaruk> i'm not op
16.43.26 #       <quelsaruk> zagor, bagder, linus and dunno who's else op
16.47.45 #       <quelsaruk> :(
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16.51.49 #       <elinenbe> bye
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17.16.54 #       <TBoy> hey I got an idea
17.17.13 #       <webmind> ?
17.17.16 #       <TBoy> it would be cool to use the splash to show the queue delete vbr fix aso.
17.17.23 #       <TBoy> while browsing the songs
17.17.32 #       <TBoy> get my drift?
17.18.03 #       <Zagor> gotta go
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17.18.08 #       <quelsaruk> ummm
17.18.22 #       <quelsaruk> not me...
17.18.25 #       <quelsaruk> i mean
17.18.34 #       <quelsaruk> i can't follow your thought
17.18.42 #       <TBoy> are you talking to me?
17.19.32 #       <quelsaruk> yups
17.19.33 #       <quelsaruk> :)
17.19.58 #       <TBoy> I mean if I press the play+on button. That it would be cool to then show it up as a msg type box to ask you what you want
17.20.07 #       <TBoy> to do
17.21.01 #       <quelsaruk> yes
17.21.19 #       <quelsaruk> but isn't that a quick menu screen?
17.21.44 #       <TBoy> yeah could be, I just called it msg box
17.21.44 #       <quelsaruk> you mean using QMS like popup boxes?
17.21.50 #       <TBoy> yea
17.21.53 #       <quelsaruk> ummm
17.21.56 #       <TBoy> exacly
17.21.57 #       <quelsaruk> could be interesting
17.22.28 #       <TBoy> that way it would be possible to see what song/file you or working with
17.22.52 #       <quelsaruk> now i'm lost again
17.22.53 #       <quelsaruk> sorry
17.22.56 #       <quelsaruk> i'm asleep
17.22.59 #       <TBoy> hehe
17.23.19 #       <TBoy> ok I meant I could then still see in what folder I was and so on
17.23.30 #       <quelsaruk> ahhh
17.24.05 #       <quelsaruk> i must go
17.24.06 #       <quelsaruk> sorry
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17.25.25 #       <TBoy> ok
17.28.42 #       <TBoy> can somebody tell me where the startup logo is
17.29.21 #       <TBoy> in what file
18.19.53 #       <TBoy> never mind
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18.34.28 #       <quel|out> TBoy: isn't ther a icon.c or something like that??
18.34.33 #       <quel|out> *there
18.48.02 #       <TBoy> yeah but I meant where it is 
18.48.20 #       <TBoy> so that I can put some of those splashes like bagder did on his examples
18.48.36 #       <adi|home> you don't need to mess with icon.c to have the splashes
18.48.47 #       <adi|home> just include screens.h
18.48.51 #       <adi|home> and then call splash
18.49.01 #       <TBoy> I knew that
18.49.26 #       <adi|home> so why worry about icon.c?
18.49.27 #       <TBoy> but where does the rockbox sign at bootup appear in the code
18.50.10 #       <adi|home> you want to put splash with the logo in it?
18.50.20 #       <TBoy> yeah
18.50.21 #       <TBoy> no
18.50.35 #       <TBoy> I mean I want the logo to have a splash on it 
18.50.46 #       <adi|home> what do you want in the splash?
18.51.03 #       <TBoy> http://www.contactor.se/~dast/splash2.png
18.51.06 #       <TBoy> something like this
18.51.37 #       <adi|home> ahh...
18.51.44 #       <adi|home> okay.. one sec
18.52.08 #       <TBoy> I just want to know in wich file i should put it
18.52.18 #       <TBoy> the rest I want to try myself
18.52.56 #       <adi|home> the logo is displayed in main_menu.c
18.53.06 #       <TBoy> ok
18.53.08 #       <adi|home> specifically, show_logo()
18.53.19 #       <TBoy> ok
18.53.38 #       <adi|home> im off
19.06.07 #       <quel|out> that cd charger project sounds good
19.06.08 #       <quel|out> :)
19.09.09 #       <TBoy> whats that
19.09.32 #       <quel|out> a new mail sent to the list
19.09.42 #       <TBoy> ok I'll look at it
19.10.13 #       <quel|out> 3 guys that have made a bidirectional i/o box for rockbox, so you can control it with your cd charger on the car
19.11.31 #       <TBoy> oh kwl
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19.34.20 #       <quel|out> hi again Bagder
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19.34.27 #       <Bagder> good evening
19.34.34 #       <quelsaruk> buenas tardes 
19.34.40 #       <TBoy> good evening
19.34.49 #       <TBoy> uhm
19.34.58 #       <TBoy> what good is the bookmark feature
19.35.39 #       <Bagder> it makes multiple resume points
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19.37.44 #       <TBoy> so basicly I could bookmark my favorite positions in some songs
19.37.55 #       <Bagder> yes
19.39.47 #       <TBoy> pretty cool
19.40.06 #       <TBoy> so when will it be implemented or will it?
19.40.30 #       <quelsaruk> 2.1
19.40.37 #       <quelsaruk> if i'm not wrong
19.40.38 #       <TBoy> ok 
19.41.12 #       <TBoy> so will I be able to do some key combination and then select bookmark or haven't you thought about it yet
19.41.39 #       <quelsaruk> dunno.. ask Bagder
19.43.03 #       <TBoy> ok, bagder : )
19.46.06 #       <TBoy> splash(1000, 0, true, 'Moin');
19.46.14 #       <TBoy> guys what is wrong with that line
19.46.32 #       <quelsaruk> i haven't seen splash() yet...
19.46.45 #       <quelsaruk> :(
19.46.48 #       <TBoy> It now only shows the build version and not the rockbox pic
19.46.56 #       <TBoy> and if I do it this way
19.47.00 #       <TBoy> splash(2000, 0, true, "Moin");
19.48.12 #       <TBoy> it just shows a Box that goes beyond
19.48.38 #       <TBoy> the screen that is
19.49.41 #       <TBoy> Bagder: when you come back can you maybe answer my question
19.49.42 #       <Bagder> what exactly are you doing and what is your question again?
19.50.36 #       <TBoy> I want to do the same you did on your examples with splash
19.50.43 #       <TBoy> and my line looks like this splash(2000, 0, true, 'Moin');
19.50.55 #       <Bagder> those ' are plain wrong
19.51.13 #       <TBoy> so what should it be
19.51.22 #       <Bagder> "this is a test beep beep"
19.51.35 #       <TBoy> yeah I did that to
19.51.38 #       <Bagder> I used splash(HZ*10, 0, true, "the string");
19.52.15 #       <TBoy> but then the it just makes a box that goes beyond the screen
19.52.39 #       <Bagder> please explain how it can go "beyond" the screen
19.53.00 #       <quelsaruk> i suppose that he gets the logo in top of the box
19.53.00 #       <TBoy> yeah it just shows two lines with nothing in siede
19.53.01 #       <TBoy> side
19.53.09 #       <TBoy> no it looks like this 
19.53.12 #       <quelsaruk> well.. not really ;)
19.53.15 #       <TBoy> logo
19.53.19 #       <TBoy> -----
19.53.26 #       <TBoy> _____
19.53.29 #       <TBoy> logo
19.53.33 #       <TBoy> build version
19.53.35 #       <TBoy> like that
19.53.58 #       <Bagder> you mean without vertical lines on the sides?
19.54.02 #       <TBoy> yep
19.54.10 #       <Bagder> its on purpose
19.54.14 #       <TBoy> and my msg isn't there
19.54.15 #       <TBoy> ohh
19.54.16 #       <Bagder> when the text gets too wide
19.54.18 #       <Bagder> oh
19.54.20 #       <Bagder> not there?
19.54.25 #       <TBoy> no its blank
19.55.06 #       <Bagder> you run it in the sim?
19.55.55 #       <TBoy> nope on the FM
19.56.12 #       <Bagder> but the loading works when you play a playlist, right?
19.56.17 #       <Bagder> the "loading" I mean
19.56.17 #       <TBoy> yep
19.56.21 #       <TBoy> that work
19.56.22 #       <TBoy> s
19.56.37 #       <Bagder> I don't have an explanation
19.56.40 #       <Bagder> might be a bug
19.56.50 #       <TBoy> ok I'll try something
19.57.20 #       <TBoy> bagder I had an idea
19.58.15 #       <Bagder> ideas are good
19.58.19 #       <TBoy> wouldn't it be cool to use the splash to show the queue, delete and the vbr fix to appear as an popup box?
19.58.42 #       <Bagder> well
19.58.49 #       <Bagder> that would require an improved splash 
19.58.58 #       <Bagder> because currently it can't deal with newlines
19.59.09 #       <Bagder> and certainly no cursor or anything
19.59.32 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: nor even using a "touch pad"??
19.59.47 #       <quelsaruk> archos screen is big enough for that ;)
20.05.27 #       <TBoy> I don't get your drift quel?
20.05.45 #       <TBoy> or maybe its not my business, hehe ; )
20.05.49 #       <Bagder> he's on the lose from a mental institution ;-)
20.06.05 #       <TBoy> hehe
20.07.17 #       <Bagder> "la casa de los locos"
20.07.24 #       <TBoy> no seriously, using it as a touch pad
20.07.29 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: ask logbot to define me, so tboy who am i :)
20.07.45 #>>     "explain quelsaruk for the rest of us please please please" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se)
20.07.58 #       <quelsaruk> ;)
20.08.00 #       <TBoy> haha
20.08.10 #       <Bagder> and logbot is never wrong
20.08.36 #       <quelsaruk> TBoy: if you can use archos screen as a touch pad.. you're the coolest man on the world ;)
20.08.42 #       <TBoy> keep up the sacrificing
20.09.16 #       <TBoy> yeah but that would require extra hardware modification
20.09.36 #       <quelsaruk> a lot of hardware mod
20.10.11 #       <TBoy> bagder: I did another test and with this line it doesn't show the rb logo nor the box/lines or my msg
20.10.18 #       <TBoy>  splash(1000, 0, true, "Moin");
20.12.02 #       <Bagder> http://storebror.haxx.se/moin.png
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20.12.16 #       <TBoy> with that line
20.12.26 #       <Bagder> yes
20.12.29 #       <TBoy> hmmm
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20.12.42 #       <TBoy> maybe I placed it on the wrong line
20.12.50 #       <tracktheripper> Evening All
20.12.59 #       <TBoy> evening
20.13.03 #       <Bagder> 'lo trackie
20.13.04 #       <tracktheripper> hi Tboy
20.13.04 #       <tracktheripper> :)
20.13.10 #       <tracktheripper> hey Badger
20.13.16 #       <tracktheripper> I do like ur new splashscreen
20.13.21 #       <tracktheripper> looks very smart
20.13.22 #       <TBoy> bagder I placed it on line 138
20.13.32 #       <TBoy> under the show_logo()
20.13.46 #       <Bagder> I put it in the ask_resume() function
20.13.58 #       <TBoy> in the function
20.14.02 #       <tracktheripper> Badger that new WPS tag that shows approximate time left in battery takes ages to update itself
20.14.21 #       <tracktheripper> I tried it and it only refreshes it in 15-20 minute chunks
20.14.35 #       <Bagder> I don't know how that works
20.14.40 #       <tracktheripper> ohh
20.14.54 #       <TBoy> in what file I'm placing it in the main.c
20.14.59 #       <tracktheripper> I wasn't sure whether or not to submit that as a bug reportg
20.15.07 #       <TBoy> maybe thats what makes my the n00b that I am
20.15.31 #       <TBoy> to n00b or not to n00b that is the question
20.15.43 #       <tracktheripper> :-|
20.16.04 #       <Bagder> rockbox is right now more than 50000 lines of C code
20.16.14 #       <Bagder> its hard to know everything in there
20.16.14 #       <tracktheripper> What is the Xing vbr header in vbr files anyway
20.16.22 #       <Bagder> the xing is like an index
20.16.32 #       <tracktheripper> yea but what does it do?
20.16.36 #       <TBoy> ahh regarding the wps
20.16.50 #       <TBoy> the current volume tag
20.17.01 #       <tracktheripper> well im not particulary worried as I don't like vbr files anyway
20.17.04 #       <Bagder> tracktheripper: it has 100 positions for each percentage of the file
20.17.11 #       <Bagder> so that you can fast-jump in the file
20.17.15 #       <tracktheripper> prefer CBR at 192kbs for all my files
20.17.19 #       <Bagder> and even estimate average bitrate etc
20.17.24 #       <tracktheripper> oh
20.17.27 #       <tracktheripper> :-(
20.17.40 #       <TBoy> it only gets updated when a new song i get played or I go in the menu
20.18.10 #       <tracktheripper> when is version 2.0 coming?
20.18.20 #       <Bagder> soon
20.18.33 #       <tracktheripper> ok
20.18.34 #       <tracktheripper> :-
20.18.36 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
20.19.01 #       <tracktheripper> Badger in your honest opinion, what do u think is better, the inverted video line or the cursor?
20.19.09 #       <Bagder> no idea
20.19.14 #       <Bagder> never used the inverted one
20.19.17 #       <tracktheripper> im not sure myself
20.19.28 #       <tracktheripper> the inverted line looks nice but is very slow to refresh
20.19.33 #       <tracktheripper> on Joquams interface
20.19.47 #       <tracktheripper> but then its swings and roundabouts
20.19.48 #       <tracktheripper> lol
20.20.48 #       <quelsaruk> only 5000 lines??
20.20.49 #       <quelsaruk> pse...
20.20.55 #       <Bagder> add a 0
20.21.11 #       <quelsaruk> i thought you were clever enough to keep all that in mind Bagder ;)
20.21.13 #       <Bagder> 58851 lines
20.21.18 #       <Bagder> 1684145 bytes
20.21.31 #       <Bagder> I'm only pretending I do good things
20.21.38 #       <quelsaruk> :P
20.21.38 #       <Bagder> I fake it
20.21.39 #       <tracktheripper> is having his dinner be back later
20.22.04 #       <TBoy> thats the way ahha bag likes it ahhahaha
20.22.12 #       <TBoy> :-D
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20.32.07 #       <tracktheripper> is back
20.32.08 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
20.33.39 #       <TBoy> ehm
20.33.47 #       <quelsaruk> yups?
20.34.24 #       <TBoy> I put it in the splash line in the ask_resume function and it also doesn't show the the msg nor the logo
20.34.33 #       <TBoy> I must be doing something wrong
20.34.54 #       <quelsaruk> why sould it show the logo?
20.35.07 #       <quelsaruk> ummm
20.35.11 #       <quelsaruk> well..
20.35.16 #       <quelsaruk> i suppose that it's logical
20.35.24 #       <quelsaruk> resume is on start up...
20.35.27 #       <quelsaruk> :)
20.35.48 #       <tracktheripper> :-(
20.36.00 #       <quelsaruk> as i told you before, i haven't had the pleasure to test the splash function
20.36.11 #       <TBoy> well bagder told me that he put it there
20.37.30 #       <quelsaruk> i'll try that function tomorrow, until then.... i can't tell you anything
20.37.48 #       <TBoy> okey dokey
20.38.01 #       <Bagder> it works for me
20.38.17 #       <quelsaruk> TBoy: try to sacrifice a goat
20.38.20 #       <TBoy> man there is one thing I can tell you
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20.38.29 #       <quelsaruk> *that* works for me most times :)
20.38.36 #       <TBoy> It sux not to have the knowledge of you guys
20.39.29 #       <quelsaruk> my knowledge?? i have none ;)
20.39.39 #       <quelsaruk> just luck and patience
20.39.40 #       <tracktheripper> Tboy i know a bit about the Archos that is not code-related
20.39.58 #       <TBoy> well then excluding quelsaruks knowledge, hehe
20.40.09 #       <TBoy> and trackers hehe
20.40.20 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
20.40.41 #       <tracktheripper> Just wondering what is the most outrageous feature request in Sourceforge
20.40.54 #       <quelsaruk> i know which one is...
20.40.56 #       <quelsaruk> :)
20.41.03 #       <tracktheripper> wots that Quel?
20.41.55 #       <quelsaruk> fm support for normal recorder
20.41.57 #       <quelsaruk> :P
20.42.01 #       <tracktheripper> lol
20.42.08 #       <TBoy> yep thats crazy
20.42.09 #       <tracktheripper> well i did NOT submit that one :-)
20.42.42 #       <quelsaruk> of course....
20.42.53 #       <quelsaruk> i didn't even try to say that
20.43.18 #       <quelsaruk> that's to weird, *even* for you ;)
20.43.27 #       <tracktheripper> hey!!!
20.43.34 #       <tracktheripper> I never submit funny requests!!!
20.43.38 #       <quelsaruk> :)
20.43.49 #       <Bagder> I liked the iraqi request
20.44.01 #       <tracktheripper> Badger I did not sumbit that one :-)
20.44.10 #       <tracktheripper> (((begins to blush)))
20.44.16 #       <quelsaruk> iraki request?
20.44.20 #       <quelsaruk> which one was that?
20.44.24 #       <Bagder> #705949
20.44.26 #       <tracktheripper> ((turns beetroot))
20.44.38 #       <Bagder> it was rejected ;-)
20.44.44 #       <tracktheripper> :-(
20.44.46 #       <TBoy> bagder: give me a hint
20.44.47 #       <Bagder> "tweak the firmware so the Archos will put an end to the iraqi crisis."
20.44.52 #       <TBoy> there are 3 ask_resume
20.45.04 #       <TBoy> in a row, with code between them
20.45.10 #       <TBoy> is it 1, 2, 3
20.45.19 #       <tracktheripper> <---- runs off
20.45.20 #       <TBoy> I always fail,
20.45.21 #       <Bagder> there is only one
20.45.27 #       <TBoy> ???
20.45.34 #       * TBoy falls down dead
20.45.43 #       <Bagder> on line 474 in tree.c in my copy
20.45.55 #       <quelsaruk> i must go home
20.45.57 #       <quelsaruk> cu tomorrow
20.45.59 #       <tracktheripper> im sure the iraqi request is possible :-0
20.46.00 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
20.46.02 #       <Bagder> night q
20.46.03 #       <quelsaruk> bye!!!
20.46.19 #       <quelsaruk> ha det sa bra Bagder :)
20.46.31 #       <Bagder> :-)
20.46.35 #       <Bagder> haha, I will!
20.46.48 #       * TBoy rises again and climbes up to his chair
20.46.49 #       <quelsaruk> i expected a "detsamma" from you
20.46.57 #       <quelsaruk> :P
20.47.02 #       <Bagder> lo misma
20.47.09 #       <quelsaruk> great!
20.47.11 #       <quelsaruk> bye
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20.47.19 #       <tracktheripper> seeya 
20.47.19 #       <tracktheripper> :D
20.48.28 #       <TBoy> so bagder now its only us the noobs and bagder and alot of other silent guys
20.48.51 #       <Bagder> I'm about to leave soon too
20.49.08 #       <TBoy> that cd-control code-thingy is cool
20.49.15 #       <tracktheripper> I think you could "hardware mod" the Archos to pick up FM
20.49.17 #       <Bagder> some people are nuts
20.49.25 #       <TBoy> the project those guys are working on
20.49.36 #       <Bagder> tracktheripper: yeah, receive fm and feed the line in ;-)
20.49.39 #       <Obiwan> hey everybody
20.49.49 #       <tracktheripper> :-(
20.49.49 #       <TBoy> hey obi
20.49.51 #       <Bagder> 'lo 
20.50.14 #       <Obiwan> I'm using the fm recorder thanks for starting to support it
20.50.33 #       <Bagder> hehe, we support everything people write code for! ;-)
20.50.36 #       <tracktheripper> yea its a shame Bjorn and co wont support the Multimedia
20.50.53 #       <Obiwan> I was wondering, if i want to rename, delete etc...
20.51.03 #       <Obiwan> what f keys or combos do i use
20.51.12 #       <Bagder> with a recent daily build, use on+play
20.51.16 #       <Bagder> in the dir browser
20.51.21 #       <Obiwan> oh ok
20.51.36 #       <Bagder> I wish I could say "read the docs" ;-)
20.51.39 #       <tracktheripper> Badger why wont Bjorn and co support the multimedia?
20.51.48 #       <Obiwan> how's the radio support going?
20.51.57 #       <Bagder> "Björn and co" support everything we get code for
20.52.12 #       <Bagder> if no one writes code for multimedia, then we don't support it
20.52.19 #       <Bagder> and I doubt anyone ever will
20.52.33 #       <Obiwan> whole different animal
20.52.37 #       <Obiwan> :)
20.52.47 #       <TBoy> its so ironic how everything I try to edit in the code results to another problem
20.52.53 #       <TBoy> I got the msg bagder
20.53.02 #       <TBoy> but know the rocbox logos gone
20.53.07 #       <Bagder> Obiwan: AFAIK, there is only one person who even thinks about adding FM receiver code and that is Linus, who's bogged down with other stuff and a tough personal life atm
20.53.24 #       <Obiwan> ah i see
20.53.34 #       <Obiwan> its not that big of a deal i guess
20.53.41 #       <TBoy> isn't he the only one of you that has one
20.53.43 #       <Obiwan> the radio isnt very good
20.53.51 #       <TBoy> thats true
20.54.00 #       <TBoy> I aint that much a fan of radio
20.54.19 #       <Bagder> I sometimes pretend I have a life
20.54.24 #       <tracktheripper> For those who own an FM radio what is the radio qualiry like?
20.54.43 #       <TBoy> but what is really strange the first time I got my FM and I tried the fm function and the first radio station I found was talking about Porn
20.54.53 #       <Obiwan> I live in san francisco so i can get most local stations well
20.54.54 #       <TBoy> and the definition of the word Pron
20.55.00 #       <tracktheripper> :-P
20.55.01 #       <Obiwan> but even then its not great
20.55.09 #       <tracktheripper> im thinking of getting a Multimedoa
20.55.14 #       <tracktheripper> sound really handy to have'
20.55.19 #       <TBoy> I live in germany and it work ok but it is pretty sensitve 
20.56.13 #       <TBoy> yeah I could have got the fm for the same price as my fm
20.56.19 #       <TBoy> I mean the multimedia
20.56.20 #       <tracktheripper> woat are the proprietrory batteries like in the FM recorder?
20.56.51 #       <tracktheripper> i want a multimedia with the camera attachment
20.57.10 #       <TBoy> archos made some sort of mistake with the multimedia the put some 1100 mah
20.57.21 #       <TBoy> batterys in
20.57.22 #       <tracktheripper> ???
20.57.31 #       <tracktheripper> I want to get 2000Mah batteries but cant find them
20.57.46 #       <TBoy> instead of the 2200 they said
20.57.52 #       <TBoy> but the fm got some 2200
20.57.57 #       <Obiwan> yay! the delete and rename are mine muh ah ah ha ha
20.57.58 #       <Obiwan> :)
20.58.00 #       <tracktheripper> well you still get 9 hour battery life
20.58.08 #       <tracktheripper> on the Multimedia
20.58.12 #       <TBoy> and I get aprox. 12-14
20.58.19 #       <TBoy> yeah now but the first editon
20.58.30 #       <TBoy> they got ones that only last 3 hours
20.58.39 #       <TBoy> but its a cool box though
20.58.52 #       <TBoy> I mean I like the idea to see vids
20.58.58 #       <TBoy> but I just want my rockbox
20.59.03 #       <tracktheripper> and to take digital snaps
20.59.05 #       <TBoy> I want my Rockboy!
20.59.07 #       <TBoy> hehe
20.59.16 #       <Bagder> I bought my unit largely for being able to do rockbox
20.59.27 #       <tracktheripper> and I want timestretching in Rockbox :-)
20.59.29 #       <Bagder> now I wouldn't dream of getting one I can hack
20.59.32 #       <Bagder> can't
20.59.39 #       <tracktheripper> :-(
20.59.39 #       <Obiwan> in the battery capacity settings, what do you guys use?
20.59.52 #       <tracktheripper> timestretch is sooooooooooooooooooo cool 
21.00.02 #       <Bagder> Obiwan: you should set it to what your batteries are
21.00.11 #       <Obiwan> I didnt really know so i just left it at 1500
21.00.18 #       <Bagder> its used for the life-time expectancy evaluation
21.00.30 #       <Bagder> which I believe is rather shaky anyway ;-)
21.00.49 #       <Obiwan> so 1500 is good for the fm recorder standard batteries?
21.00.51 #       <Bagder> the recorder has 1500mAh ones from factory
21.00.58 #       <TBoy> no for the fm its 220
21.01.00 #       <Bagder> don't know about the fm
21.01.00 #       <TBoy> 2200
21.01.00 #       <Obiwan> ok
21.01.08 #       <TBoy> I got the fm too
21.01.09 #       <Obiwan> really?
21.01.11 #       <TBoy> yep
21.01.24 #       <Obiwan> ok i guess i should change it up
21.01.28 #       <tracktheripper> ill buy an FM of someone :-)
21.01.34 #       <tracktheripper> if someone no longer wants it
21.01.35 #       <TBoy> we got 2200 mah li-ons
21.01.41 #       <Obiwan> sweet!
21.01.45 #       <TBoy> yep
21.01.52 #       <TBoy> neato!
21.02.24 #       <Obiwan> so that'll give me more play time? or...
21.02.31 #       <Obiwan> if its set properly
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21.03.08 #       <TBoy> I think so
21.03.15 #       <TBoy> you'll have to ask bagder
21.03.25 #       <Obiwan> well good enough for me
21.03.37 #       <Bagder> the setting doesn't change runtime
21.03.46 #       <Bagder> it just change how it calculates how long it'll live
21.04.03 #       <TBoy> I'm just the friendly guy which hangs aroung here argueing bagder and the rest of his soldiers
21.06.42 #       <Obiwan> well thanks guys, i'm sure i'll be around more and more. keep up the good work
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21.07.16 #       * Bagder just detected Archos sells a "de luxe" version of the recorder
21.07.44 #       <TBoy> bagder: what is different while compiling the normal and the debug version
21.07.48 #       <Bagder> its the exact same thing, but with the travel kit included, by the look of it
21.07.52 #       <TBoy> yeah
21.08.05 #       <TBoy> I know that was some how cheap to call it de luxe
21.08.07 #       <Bagder> TBoy: the debug version is for gdb-ing on target
21.08.14 #       <TBoy> oh ok thx
21.09.27 #       <Bagder> adi|home: you alive?
21.09.31 #       <adi|work> yup..
21.09.39 #       <adi|work> i got the FAQ email :) im working on it ":)
21.09.44 #       <Bagder> ah
21.09.45 #       <Bagder> hehe
21.09.50 #       <Bagder> you pre-empted my q then
21.09.54 #       <adi|work> :)
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21.10.10 #       <Bagder> those commit mails are useful ;-)
21.11.47 #       <Bagder> see ya tomorrow
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