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00.15.48 #       <josh966_> anyone here have the remote control?
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00.17.05 #       <Temfate> is the CVS server having problems? Anyone?
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00.25.31 #       <adi|work> not as far as i know
00.25.48 #       <adi|work> nope.. seems fine to me..
00.25.49 #       <adi|work> why?
00.27.03 #       <adi|work> <jedix> so, what is the firmware coded in?
00.27.03 #       <adi|work> <Linus> C
00.27.03 #       <adi|work> <jedix> really? I was expecting some sort of assembly
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00.27.03 #       <adi|work> <Zagor> some assembly required :)
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00.27.10 #       <adi|work> hehe i love that one...
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00.31.30 #       <Temfate> nevermind... it was just being slow... gave me an EOF a few times....
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00.32.39 Topic   "Voice your opinion http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archosjukebox6000/surveys?id=1050136" by adiamas (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net)
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00.35.21 #       <Temfate> anyone know of a easy way to get a memory dump while still running archos firmware? trying to find fm tuner adjustment calls... 
00.44.27 #       <adi|work> nope.. you need to wait for zagor or bagder for that
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01.02.05 #       <elinenbe> has anyone seen this: http://mike.metalhead.ws/
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04.57.41 #       <thu> hello
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08.03.11 #       <adi|home> zagor.. just so you know.. i hosed the FAQ on the web..
08.03.15 #       <adi|home> i fixed it.. 
08.03.24 #       <adi|home> but until it updates.. itll looked hosed
08.03.29 #       <Zagor> hehe, ok
08.04.14 #       <adi|home> made the mistake of leaving #!/usr/local/bin/perl when it should have bin /usr/bin/perl :)
08.04.55 #       <Zagor> aha
08.09.37 #       <adi|home> but is fixed :)
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08.32.14 #       <adi|home> zagor.. if im reading the sokoban levels file, i should take \r\n into account, not just \n correct?
08.32.59 #       <Zagor> \n is ok, imho. that is not a file many people should be messing with
08.33.40 #       <adi|home> cool... makes life easier :)
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08.36.39 #       <Nexus> hello
08.36.41 #       <Nexus> anyone here?
08.36.57 #       <Nexus> had a Question
08.37.35 #       <Nexus> when i plug my wall power adapter into the jukebox, (studio 20)
08.37.47 #       <Nexus> in the dc in port
08.38.15 #       <Nexus> it never seems to want to register properly, the green light at the top wont' stay on....i have to twist the plug in till it's at the right angle
08.38.23 #       <Nexus> before it will stay recharing
08.38.30 #       <Zagor> hardware glitch
08.38.35 #       <Nexus> and if it gets bumped u have to twist it till it's in th right place
08.38.47 #       <Nexus> any way to fix that?
08.39.07 #       <Nexus> i was gonna take it apart and try to clean out any dust or other crap in the port
08.39.14 #       <Nexus> shoudl i even bother?
08.39.29 #       <Zagor> it's probably a bad solder. try resoldering the DC connector to the board.
08.39.42 #       <Nexus> aight
08.39.43 #       <Zagor> shouldn't be difficult
08.39.46 #       <Nexus> i will try that
08.39.48 #       <Nexus> thnx zagor
08.40.02 #       <Nexus> :)
08.40.09 #       <Zagor> no problem
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09.14.50 #       <Nexus> zagor u there?
09.14.56 #       <Zagor> yup
09.15.10 #       <Nexus> i've never opened one of these puppies before
09.15.16 #       <Nexus> i've taken off all the plastic stuff
09.15.28 #       <Nexus> but that's as far as i've gotten
09.15.45 #       <Nexus> i have a web cam and could take a picture to show u where i'm at
09.15.54 #       <Nexus> not too sure where i go next...
09.16.13 #       <Zagor> have you read here: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/
09.16.14 #       <Nexus> oh i see four screws on the bottom
09.16.19 #       <dwihno> It's easy as 1, 2, 4 ;)
09.16.22 #       <Nexus> yay
09.16.27 #       <dwihno> YAY! :D
09.16.29 #       <Nexus> that helps
09.16.30 #       <Nexus> !
09.16.30 #       <Nexus> =-)
09.16.32 #       <Nexus> didn't see that
09.16.38 #       <Nexus> http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/bjorn.html
09.16.40 #       <Nexus> that's where i was
09.23.44 #       * Nexus can smell the hair burning from inside his studio 20
09.24.03 #       <Nexus> :D
09.26.24 #       <webmind> morning 
09.26.30 #       <dwihno> Howdy ho!
09.26.44 #       <adi|home> zagor we have an isspace() right?
09.27.04 #       <adi|home> nm.. got it
09.27.19 #       <Zagor> :)
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09.30.21 #       <quelsaruk> sunny morning
09.31.31 #       <dwihno> indeed
09.31.34 #       <dwihno> very nice weather
09.31.38 #       <dwihno> perfect for a fish :D
09.31.43 #       <quelsaruk> :)
09.32.04 #       <quelsaruk> we had a lot of clouds and rain 'till this morning
09.32.37 #       <Nexus> anyone know what would be a good alternative to desoldering braid?
09.32.43 #       <quelsaruk> we passed from 25ºC to 10ºC last weekend, and weather is getting warmer again
09.33.49 #       <dwihno> We have 0 degrees
09.33.52 #       <dwihno> (c)
09.34.06 #       <dwihno> -5.0°C
09.34.11 #       <dwihno> woops, colder than I thought
09.34.56 #       <quelsaruk> uppss
09.35.06 #       <quelsaruk> i'm never going to sweden ;)
09.35.13 #       <dwihno> :)
09.35.19 #       <adi|home> okay.. next interesting sokoban question..
09.35.40 #       <adi|home> how do i tell if a) they have beaten all the levels, or b) we failed to find a valid map
09.36.04 #       <adi|home> should i assume that once we load a single good map, that the next failure to read, or to find a valid map means you won?
09.36.41 #       <quelsaruk> adi|home: does a person win if he completes all maps? or just i he completes the last one?
09.36.58 #       <adi|home> i dunno.. i dont know the rules :)
09.37.14 #       <quelsaruk> isn't sokoban your game?
09.37.17 #       <quelsaruk> ;)
09.37.30 #       <adi|home> nope :)
09.37.34 #       <adi|home> im just maintainer sorta
09.37.39 #       <adi|home> i stole it from eric :)
09.37.55 #       <quelsaruk> i haven't played sokoban in a long time, but there's a multi-resume or something like that or not?
09.37.59 #       <adi|home> it needed oh-oh-ifing as it were...
09.38.05 #       <adi|home> nope..
09.38.10 #       <adi|home> right now..
09.38.13 #       <adi|home> you either beat a level
09.38.16 #       <adi|home> or come back to it
09.38.20 #       <adi|home> but we have a 5 move undo now
09.38.24 #       <quelsaruk> ahhh
09.38.27 #       <quelsaruk> multi-undo
09.38.29 #       <quelsaruk> :)
09.38.45 #       <quelsaruk> well...
09.38.45 #       <adi|home> nods
09.38.53 #       <adi|home> one of my cleaner hacks if i do say so :)
09.39.16 #       <quelsaruk> could you store which one is the last level the guy solved?
09.39.26 #       <adi|home> i could, but not yet :)
09.39.39 #       <adi|home> once i get dynamic level loading
09.39.50 #       <adi|home> my next step is to store a game, so you can midgame resume :)
09.39.53 #       <Schnueff> i think level file should stop loading on first error
09.39.54 #       <quelsaruk> i mean.. if i've done just 'till number 13, i can jump up to  level 14, not to 15 or 30
09.40.16 #       <adi|home> well.. right now you can fastforward through them all...
09.40.23 #       <quelsaruk> i know
09.40.25 #       <adi|home> id like to turn that off once level saving is made
09.40.43 #       <adi|home> you can go backwards all you want... jumping forward feels like a cheat to me :)
09.40.52 #       <quelsaruk> adi|home: i say this, so when you finish all maps, you can say "i've won"
09.41.18 #       <adi|home> right, but my prob is detecting when you have beaten all the maps, vs a map failing to load...
09.41.21 #       <Schnueff> adi|home: about the undo: is it undoing a single movement step?
09.41.23 #       <quelsaruk> but if you jump to last map and next one is an error map, could you say "you've won" ?
09.41.35 #       <adi|home> Schnueff: no.. you have 5 moves you can undo..
09.41.45 #       <adi|home> classic version says 1 move, we are more generous
09.42.01 #       <Schnueff> yeah okay, but move = one step of me
09.42.09 #       <adi|home> quelsaruk i have no way of know what the last map is.. thats what im saying..
09.42.15 #       <adi|home> yes Schnueff
09.42.15 #       <quelsaruk> ah
09.42.17 #       <adi|home> :)
09.42.19 #       <Schnueff> technically one could also undo to the last crate move
09.42.25 #       <adi|home> yes
09.42.26 #       <quelsaruk> sorry adi|home, i'm still asleep :)
09.42.31 #       <adi|home> np quelsaruk
09.42.51 #       <quelsaruk> don't you know how many levels are there??
09.42.52 #       <adi|home> quelsaruk: im parsing the level file by looking for a blank line, that is all that is need to seperate levels...
09.42.55 #       <adi|home> nope
09.43.02 #       <quelsaruk> great ;)
09.43.06 #       <adi|home> players could add levels as they wish, where they wish :)
09.43.53 #       <Nexus> *sob*
09.43.56 #       <adi|home> Schnueff: the undo are store as 3 blocks on screen, because each movement effects a max of 3 spots (where you were, where you are going, and where you can push a block)
09.44.02 #       <Nexus> i can't get my studio 20 apart
09.44.03 #       <adi|home> whats the matter Nexus?
09.44.07 #       <adi|home> lol :)
09.44.08 #       <adi|home> sorry
09.44.12 #       <Nexus> lol
09.44.17 #       <adi|home> Schnueff: that help?
09.44.23 #       <Nexus> i've taken apart an xbox and installed a mod chip
09.44.26 #       <Schnueff> adi|home: yes okay
09.44.27 #       <Nexus> but i can't open this damnnnn thing!!!!!!
09.44.41 #       <Nexus> the tutorial is wrong
09.44.54 #       <Nexus> there Isn't just 3 soldering points that hold the top board down
09.44.59 #       <Nexus> there's two more at the very top
09.45.00 #       <Nexus> fat ones
09.45.19 #       <Schnueff> adi|home: the problem with this move-undo is, that if i move a crate and then run a long distance, I can't undo that crate move
09.45.28 #       <Nexus> connecting the small rectangular board sitting on its side to the flat main board
09.46.09 #       <adi|home> Schnueff: correct
09.46.11 #       <Schnueff> adi|home: so, i thought, one could also undo to the last crate move, but this is only an idea
09.46.20 #       <adi|home> you only get 5 moves to undo..
09.46.20 #       <Schnueff> (data structure would be very similar)
09.46.29 #       <adi|home> nope.. we count your moves
09.46.35 #       <adi|home> not crate movements
09.46.55 #       <adi|home> namely.. you move 1 spot left, then back then left again etc...
09.47.00 #       <adi|home> then you can only undo those movements
09.47.08 #       <Schnueff> yes
09.47.35 #       <adi|home> i thought about your way to, but there was no easy way to store the history,
09.47.45 #       <adi|home> because you need to know where the player is when the crates move...
09.47.47 #       * Nexus breaks down into a sobbing heap of tears
09.47.53 #       <adi|home> and all the locations in between.
09.48.06 #       <Schnueff> and if one skips the locations in between, the players would understand it
09.48.13 #       <Schnueff> eh perhaps wouldnt understand it
09.48.20 #       <adi|home> hehe yup :)
09.48.23 #       <Schnueff> like undo -> person jumps, crates moves
09.48.30 #       <adi|home> nods
09.48.32 #       <adi|home> exactly
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09.48.36 #       <adi|home> Bagder!
09.48.39 #       <dwihno> Bag!:D
09.48.45 #       <adi|home> i have a splash question for you
09.48.53 #       <Bagder> fire away!
09.49.05 #       <Schnueff> not this morning
09.49.15 #       <adi|home> splash(0, 0, "%s\n%s\n%s", "this", "is", "test");
09.49.19 #       <adi|home> what should we expect?
09.49.20 #       <adi|home> this
09.49.21 #       <adi|home> is
09.49.21 #       <dwihno> Splash(tm) - "Because it simply rocks!"
09.49.22 DBUG    Sent KICK adi|home to server
09.49.22 #       <adi|home> test
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09.49.44 #       <adi|home> damnit
09.49.45 #       <Bagder> evil bot
09.49.55 #       <Bagder> we don't have newline support in the splash code
09.50.07 #       <adi|home> ahh okay.. thats what i thought  :)
09.50.10 #       <quelsaruk> hehehe
09.50.15 #       <adi|home> you may want to put that as a comment somewhere...
09.50.28 #       <adi|home> splash won't work nicely for game instructions then :(
09.50.29 #       <quelsaruk> adi|home: people hate you ;)
09.50.31 #       <Bagder> good idea
09.50.46 #       <adi|home> quelsaruk: not ppl.. just women and god.
09.51.07 #       <adi|home> but satan loves me.. he even gave me this shiny nickel for my soul :)
09.51.27 #       <quelsaruk> then... don't come to spain, a lot of women.. and inkisition :)
09.51.41 #       <adi|home> inkisition?
09.52.09 #       <adi|home> know what i need to do? i need to do a european rockbox tour
09.52.16 #       <Bagder> inquisition
09.52.24 #       <adi|home> stop off.. visit ppl.. stay for free.. treat ppl to dinner.. etc :)
09.52.28 #       <Bagder> yay
09.52.37 #       <Bagder> devcon every day tour 2003! ;-)
09.52.42 #       <adi|home> lol
09.52.46 #       <adi|home> no no no.. 
09.52.52 #       <adi|home> Devcon a day tour 2004!
09.52.56 #       <adi|home> needs to rhyme
09.53.00 #       <Bagder> haha
09.53.25 #       <adi|home> hehe nice to know that i gots ppl to pester all over the world :)
09.53.29 #       <dwihno> DEVCON! D:
09.53.30 #       <dwihno> :D
09.53.59 #       <adi|home> like i said before.. once im outta this shit hole.. anyone comes to the states.. they are more then welcome to state at my pad...
09.54.02 #       <quelsaruk> oh no!
09.54.10 #       <adi|home> im like 25-30 mins from NYC, and 40 mins from ocean
09.54.35 #       <adi|home> and only like.. mhmmmm.. 98 hrs from LA :)
09.55.16 #       <adi|home> quelsaruk: seriously though.. is there much anti-american sentiment where you are?
09.55.27 #       <quelsaruk> here?
09.55.30 #       <quelsaruk> not really
09.55.33 #       <adi|home> your in spain right?
09.55.38 #       <quelsaruk> yups
09.55.43 #       <adi|home> nods
09.55.59 #       <dwihno> in tortillas des españoles!? :)
09.56.01 #       <adi|home> i mean.. i know the french hate us.. but thats just because we took jerry lewis off the air
09.56.17 #       <quelsaruk> everyone hates french ;)
09.56.27 #       <quelsaruk> we had a lot of wars in the past
09.56.33 #       <Nexus> we canadians love you americans ;)
09.56.34 #       <quelsaruk> french vs spain and so on :)
09.56.55 #       <adi|home> Nexus: of course.. next to us, you guys are angels :)
09.57.00 #       <dwihno> Americans are cool, they have got all those weird food and popular culture ;D
09.57.06 #       <adi|home> dont forget spain vs england :)
09.57.26 #       <dwihno> Time to suffer. Time to feel the spain
09.57.30 #       <dwihno> ;-)
09.57.33 #       <quelsaruk> :P
09.57.34 #       <adi|home> lol
09.57.46 #       <quelsaruk> that sounded cool
09.58.26 #       <adi|home> "America is a country which produces citizens who will cross the ocean to fight for democracy, but won't cross the street to vote."
09.59.48 #       <quelsaruk> you mean North-america ;)
10.00.17 #       * dwihno crosses all the streets.
10.00.44 #       <quelsaruk> btw.. i've lived in usa :)
10.00.55 #       <adi|home> "Bill Gates is just a monocle and a Persian Cat away from being one of the bad guys in a James Bond movie."
10.02.26 #       <quelsaruk> i need a coffee
10.02.33 #       <quelsaruk> brb
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10.06.23 #       <Nexus> yayyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!1
10.06.26 #       <Nexus> mother fuking god i'im good!!!
10.06.30 #       <Nexus> finally!!!!!
10.06.33 #       <Nexus> the mcaiver way!
10.06.34 #       <dwihno> What did U do?
10.06.40 #       <Nexus> who needs desoldering braid!!!!!
10.06.47 #       <Nexus> i OPENED MY STUDIO 20!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10.06.50 #       <dwihno> You used toothpaste to create plastic explosives? :)
10.07.04 #       <Nexus> oh man i'm a hacker :)
10.07.12 #       <Nexus> .... er something
10.08.09 #       <adi|home> "Somewhere, in the back reaches of my mind, a single piece of straw turns a camel into a paraplegic..."
10.08.58 #       <Nexus> k guys
10.09.03 #       <Nexus> i've removed the top of this baby
10.09.15 #       <Nexus> i was having problems with plugging in my charger
10.09.38 #       <Nexus> i would have to twist the lilttle plug in till it would work 
10.09.47 #       <Nexus> then i had to make sure that it didn't move so it could recharge
10.09.48 #       <Nexus> i wanna fix that
10.09.53 #       <Nexus> just resolder the DC point?
10.09.57 #       <Nexus> i dont' see this
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10.12.54 #       <Nexus> ohhh
10.12.57 #       <Nexus> u guys really don't help noobies
10.13.21 #       <Bagder> we don't?
10.13.26 #       <Bagder> good! ;-)
10.13.31 #       <Nexus> :(
10.14.30 #       <Nexus> wow, very supportive and patient aid for those who need it
10.14.41 #       <Zagor> Nexus: http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/6k_top.jpg
10.15.16 #       <Bagder> yes, and whining is the perfect way to get help
10.15.25 #       <Zagor> to the far right in the picture you see big blobs of solder. those are what keeps the DC connected. resolder them.
10.15.44 #       <Nexus> all of them?
10.15.57 #       <Zagor> there's only three points for the DC connector
10.17.03 #       <adi|home> http://www.bash.org/?1578
10.17.09 #       <adi|home> okay.. laughing.. to.. hard
10.17.54 #       <adi|home> if by "help" you mean, beat about the head and neck with a defrosted frozen rainbow lake trout.. then yes.. we are very friendly.
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10.21.22 #       <tracktheripper> mornings
10.29.07 #       <dwihno> hello hey!
10.29.14 #       <tracktheripper> heya dude :-)
10.29.16 #       <tracktheripper> whats up?
10.30.31 #       <tracktheripper> I really like that graph in Debug>Battery that increases when charging up :-)
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10.33.42 #       <dwihno> :-D
10.33.50 #       <dwihno> looks pretty nice ya
10.34.18 #       <dwihno> I haven't seen splash yet :(
10.34.22 #       <dwihno> When is it being used?
10.34.43 #       <tracktheripper> its already in use when playing playlists
10.34.53 #       <dwihno> gotta test that during lunch
10.35.00 #       <tracktheripper> :-D
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10.36.49 #       <Nexus> does anyone hear live near canada?
10.37.15 #       <Nexus> *here
10.37.26 #       <Nexus> i'm willing to pay money to get this damn thing sorted out
10.37.33 #       <Nexus> if any of you have the time
10.37.36 #       <Nexus> or patience
10.38.02 #       <Zagor> you can probably get any electronics repair shop to fix that for you
10.38.14 #       <dwihno> true
10.38.16 #       <Nexus> but would they know what they're doing?
10.38.34 #       * dwihno gets a crazy idea. Perhaps I could bribe them to do a 8MB mod for me? :)
10.38.44 #       <Nexus> i'll try that '
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10.40.17 #       <tracktheripper> Hi Zagor
10.40.17 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
10.41.03 #       <Zagor> hi :)
10.41.20 #       <tracktheripper> long time no chat :)
10.41.28 #       <tracktheripper> sorry if i upset u in the past :)
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10.53.15 #       <Bagder> one of these days we'll be forced to stop the feature request tracker
10.53.31 #       <dwihno> any special reason?
10.53.39 #       <Bagder> too many funny persons
10.54.04 #       <Bagder> there are so many weird requests
10.54.13 #       <Bagder> and I bet most of them are done weird on purpose
10.54.30 #       <Bagder> they drain resources from "real stuff"
10.54.55 #       <Zagor> we could require a login to file a request
10.55.06 #       <Zagor> at least I think we can
10.55.34 #       <Zagor> yes we can
10.55.51 #       <Bagder> yeah "Allow non-logged-in postings"
10.55.51 #       <Zagor> two options: "Publicly Available" and "Allow non-logged-in postings"
10.56.43 #       <Zagor> sounds like a good idea
10.56.45 #       <tracktheripper> Badger what the hell are u on about?
10.56.48 #       <tracktheripper> :(
10.56.51 #       <Bagder> I think it is goodness, yes
10.56.57 #       <Bagder> tracktheripper: you can't read?
10.56.58 #       <Zagor> fixed
10.57.04 #       <Zagor> posting to the list
10.57.05 #       <adi|home> id rather leave it open and just deal with it..
10.57.14 #       <adi|home> we do get a fair amount of good requests from anonymous
10.57.15 #       <tracktheripper> sorry badger i can't :-)
10.57.19 #       <tracktheripper> ((joke))
10.57.37 #       * Bagder doesn't understand jokes ;-)
10.57.46 #       <Zagor> adi|home: I think we'll still get many good requests. logging in isn't very painful.
10.57.48 #       <adi|home> that just means your swedish
10.57.49 #       <adi|home> :)
10.58.03 #       <Bagder> can you please write the jokes in swedish? :-P
10.58.13 #       <adi|home> yeah.. but we can't get ppl to read the faq, and you wnt to require them to log in :)
10.58.19 #       <adi|home> sure...
10.58.41 #       <adi|home> <font="swedish_chef">hurdy gurdy... ba furdy</font>
10.58.42 #       <adi|home> :)
10.59.03 #       <tracktheripper> ok why don't you no longer allow requests from "Nobody"
10.59.10 #       <tracktheripper> i'd they must log in from now on?
10.59.14 #       <Zagor> tracktheripper: yes
10.59.15 #       <Bagder> yes
10.59.23 #       <tracktheripper> ok :-)
10.59.24 #       <Bagder> but that's no effort on your behalf
10.59.28 #       <tracktheripper> lol
10.59.36 #       <tracktheripper> I always log in if i wanna submit something
10.59.36 #       <Bagder> but it'll save efforts on our ends
10.59.44 #       <tracktheripper> yea
10.59.49 #       <quelsaruk> i think that people that have a good idea can win the challenge of "creating a new account and loggin in"
10.59.58 #       <quelsaruk> just an idea
11.00.00 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
11.00.19 #       <adi|home> i have just 2 words for you... "stupid people suck"
11.00.23 #       * adi|home is away: bed
11.00.42 #       <tracktheripper> :-(
11.01.05 #       <tracktheripper> well wiv something so hackable as the Archos what do u expect?
11.01.05 #       <tracktheripper> lol
11.01.18 #       <adi|home> oh.. before i run... i have the level loading mostly done..
11.01.29 #       <adi|home> should i wait until just before 2.0 to put it in?
11.01.40 #       <adi|home> so ppl grab the sokoban.level file when they upgrade?
11.01.47 #       <adi|home> and where in the CVS do i put sokoban.level?
11.01.48 #       <Zagor> yes, I think so
11.02.31 #       <Bagder> Zagor: I have a daily build for rec8mb now in the daily-build dir, in the same style as the others
11.02.48 #       <Zagor> yup. i've updated the daily page
11.02.53 #       <Zagor> and checked it in too :)
11.02.59 #       <Bagder> gosh, neato
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11.03.11 #       <tracktheripper> <--- Wishes Bjorn and co would cheer up from time to time :-)
11.03.50 #       * Bagder sings a happy song to cheer up the crowd ;-)
11.03.56 #       <Schnueff> yohoo
11.03.59 #       <tracktheripper> ;-)
11.04.00 #       <Schnueff> fine entertainment
11.04.00 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
11.04.04 #       * langhaarrocker inserts earplugs
11.04.29 #       <Bagder> now why is the people around me looking at me like this?
11.04.31 #       <tracktheripper> yep
11.04.55 #       <tracktheripper> well 1 out of 3 isn't bad :-)
11.05.24 #       <langhaarrocker> you mean the notes he actually hit?
11.05.32 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: we have a free room here in "mi casa de locos"
11.05.49 #       <Bagder> nice and cosy with soft walls in it?
11.06.03 #       <quelsaruk> of coruse, white walls... and a lot of drugs
11.06.05 #       <quelsaruk> :)
11.06.09 #       <quelsaruk> *course
11.06.10 #       <Bagder> sign me up!
11.06.10 #       <tracktheripper> I mean that only Badger is singing, unlike Zagor and Adimas :-)
11.06.12 #       <tracktheripper> heehee
11.06.21 #       <langhaarrocker> You mustn't stuff Bagder into a room without a internet connection.!
11.06.34 #       <Schnueff> heh
11.07.08 #       <quelsaruk> langhaarrocker: if i'm here this means we have internet
11.07.09 #       <quelsaruk> :P
11.07.32 #       <langhaarrocker> ok
11.08.10 #       <quelsaruk> i need a good microphone to record the iron maiden's concert 
11.08.11 >>>     "pass" used by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) [snoop prevented]
11.08.11 #       <tracktheripper> (gives Quelsaruk a slap) :P
11.08.11 #       <quelsaruk> :(
11.08.24 >>>     "explain *" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se)
11.08.56 >>>     "expadd Bagder Sorry, that thing can't be explained. It's against my nature." by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se)
11.08.59 #       <langhaarrocker> You need good earplugs to make your ears survive.
11.09.03 >>>     "explain bagder" by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se)
11.09.10 #       <quelsaruk> not too expensive, and still good enough to make a fin record
11.09.32 >>>     "expadd Badger An anmial. Frequently misspelled Bagder." by Bagder (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se)
11.09.38 #       <quelsaruk> langhaarrocker: no prob. I've survived a lot of concerts ;)
11.09.53 #       <Bagder> quelsaruk: buy the archos mic then I guess
11.10.29 #       <quelsaruk> and i don't need to rise my rockbox volume more than 75% while walking at the city
11.11.09 #       <tracktheripper> Rockbox seems to go louder than the Archos firmware
11.11.15 #       <Bagder> it does
11.11.20 #       <Bagder> lower too
11.11.54 #       <tracktheripper> yea
11.12.07 #       <quelsaruk> who wants it lower??
11.12.39 #       <tracktheripper> look forward for Bjorn and co to implement FM in the FM recorder
11.13.07 #       <Bagder> I have a feeling Björn won't do that ;-)
11.13.16 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: if i haven't read wrongly the new car charger adaptor.... it uses a external box and needs no internal mod, no?
11.13.42 #       <Zagor> tracktheripper: I don't have an FM unit, so I can't do that.
11.13.45 #       <Bagder> car charger adaptor?
11.13.58 #       <quelsaruk> ummm
11.14.00 #       <Zagor> changer adaptor
11.14.03 #       <tracktheripper> i wasn't just asking you Zagor, I meant any rockbox member
11.14.07 #       <Zagor> quelsaruk: you are right
11.14.10 #       <Bagder> ah that CD thing
11.14.42 #       <quelsaruk> Bagder: i'm normally a closed book, i thought you knew that now :)
11.15.05 #       <quelsaruk> you have to translate from "quelsarukian" to normal english
11.15.20 #       <Bagder> I forgot my quelsaruk dictionary at home this morning
11.15.22 #       <Bagder> I'm all lost
11.15.29 #       <tracktheripper> awwwww
11.15.40 #       <tracktheripper> why don't you use UP in the F2 and F3 menus
11.16.02 #       <quelsaruk> Zagor: i suppose i can ask those guys to show some schematics of their "thing"
11.20.27 #       <quelsaruk> rebooting this f****** windoze 
11.20.33 #       <quelsaruk> cu in a moment
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11.21.00 #       <tracktheripper> the Player could display album covers if u could squeeze one into one of the Player's character cells
11.21.17 #       <Zagor> tracktheripper: because it's impossible. we have already answered that request.
11.21.24 #       <tracktheripper> lol
11.21.26 #       <tracktheripper> :-(
11.22.13 #       <tracktheripper> but even so could the Recorder display basic one bit images?
11.22.24 #       <Zagor> yes
11.22.30 #       <tracktheripper> ohh
11.22.31 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
11.23.11 #       <tracktheripper> i wanna put a larger hard drive in my Archos but don't wanna risk damaging my Jukebox
11.23.24 #       <Bagder> chicken! ;-)
11.23.33 #       <tracktheripper> hey! :-(
11.24.03 #       <langhaarrocker> tracktheripper: try the 8MB mod first. If you succed the hd chjjange will be easy.
11.24.22 #       <dwihno> How about a 16MB mod? :)
11.24.24 #       <tracktheripper> yea but where do I source the 8mb chip?
11.25.13 #       <Bagder> people have mentioned various sources
11.25.22 #       <tracktheripper> ohh
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11.26.30 #       <quelsaruk> back again
11.29.21 #       <langhaarrocker> just having a discussion here: you don't need c++ to have the increment operator? It's available in standard c? Or am I completely nuts now?
11.31.02 #       <langhaarrocker> (Just because a collegue tries to convince me that c++ got it's name because of that ++ operator)
11.31.18 #       <quelsaruk> ufff
11.31.19 #       <Zagor> "var++" is C
11.31.44 #       <Zagor> it did get it's name from the operator. it implies "incremented C"
11.32.03 #       <langhaarrocker> ah
11.32.40 #       <quelsaruk> Grandpa zagor has answered our questions :)
11.38.36 #       <langhaarrocker> Are there any standarized mass-storage-drivers for the serial port? Like would it make sense to implement something in rockbox (with hw mod) so that it could be used as an external hd via serial port?
11.41.50 #       <Bagder> I'm not aware of any such standard
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11.54.16 #       <bobTHC> hi all!
11.54.20 #       <quelsaruk> hi bobTHC
11.54.44 #       <quelsaruk> we have all agreed in invading france today
11.54.53 #       <bobTHC> hehe...
11.54.59 #       <quelsaruk> :P
11.55.13 #       <bobTHC> what's up ?
11.55.20 #       <quelsaruk> we have to asault archos central buildings 
11.55.38 #       <bobTHC> to get dsp infos?
11.55.49 #       <quelsaruk> and steal some archos models ;)
11.55.50 #       <bobTHC> :)
11.56.04 #       <quelsaruk> just for research 
11.56.06 #       <langhaarrocker> How do you want to damage the central buildings? With all those blue rubber edges?
11.56.29 #       <quelsaruk> i will use my goats' army
11.56.52 #       <bobTHC> and my frog army ! :)
11.56.58 #       <langhaarrocker> Will look funny with all those goats stuck in the rubber.
11.57.29 #       <langhaarrocker> bobTHC: You'd better make dried frog pills of them. :)
11.58.20 #       <bobTHC> of course, more efficient...
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13.13.58 #       <langhaarrocker> mjamjam chinamann
13.15.03 #       <Bagder> rehi
13.17.14 #       <quelsaruk> buuuuuuhhh!! Bagder get out of here!!
13.17.16 #       <quelsaruk> ;)
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14.07.17 #       <quel|lunch> i'm hungry....
14.07.22 #       <quel|lunch> like muzzy :)
14.12.50 #       <dwihno> Muzzy?
14.27.30 #       <langhaarrocker> Probably one of his goats.
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14.32.28 #       <dwihno> :-)
14.32.38 #       <Bagder> muzzy the goat
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14.32.55 #       <tracktheripper> Hiiiii
14.32.56 #       <tracktheripper> >:D<
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14.54.17 #       <langhaarrocker> I don't understand all that hubub about rockbox detecting the memory size. What's wrong with different build targets? If someone really does the 8MB mod he won't mind downloading another rockbox build.
14.54.36 #       <Bagder> exactly
14.55.25 #       <Zagor> people in general have a hard time understanding how we can live without malloc()
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14.55.53 #       <Bagder> they all want to help us by suggesting ways on how to solve it
14.57.15 #       <langhaarrocker> occasionally I missed dynamic memory, too. But there usually are ways around it.
14.59.27 #       <elinenbe_> there are only about 5 people who have even done that mod.
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15.00.37 #       <langhaarrocker> And if it were 1000 people - Once you have the mod you have it. The memory won't change with every boot. There is no need to detect it dynamically.
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16.54.14 #       <elinenbe> what is keeping away a 2.0 release?
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17.05.45 #       <Zagor> elinenbe: bugs :-)
17.06.01 #       <elinenbe> thanks for the gret explanation!
17.06.06 #       <elinenbe> s/gret/great
17.06.45 #       <dw|gone> And a missing inverted cursor display. I'll fix that during the weekend, misa thinks.
17.06.50 #       <Zagor> there is a problem with the vbrfix code that needs to be fixed before release. and the ata bug would be nice to fix, although I don't have much hope :-(
17.07.12 #       <dw|gone> Zagor: ATA = RED LED DEAD?
17.07.15 #       <Zagor> yes
17.07.32 #       <dw|gone> Mkay. I'm gone now however ;D
17.08.33 #       <elinenbe> who gets the ata bug?
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17.08.56 #       <elinenbe> what like .5% of users?  I would just say screw that.... it's good to go! ;)
17.08.57 #       <Zagor> elinenbe: mostly fm users, it seems
17.09.07 #       <elinenbe> ah... forget them.
17.09.13 #       <Zagor> :-)
17.09.32 #       <quelsaruk> evening
17.09.34 #       <elinenbe> does Linus usually use the FM or the Recorder.
17.09.36 #       <quelsaruk> or afternoon
17.09.39 #       <langhaarrocker> I'm a recorder user with Red Led Dead bug experiences. Do you want to forget me, too?
17.09.45 #       <quelsaruk> y never know where the change is :)
17.09.49 #       <elinenbe> langhaarrocker: yeah
17.10.12 #       <langhaarrocker> Pfüh!
17.12.54 #       <langhaarrocker> quelzaruk: who is muzzy?
17.13.33 #       <quelsaruk> a green monster that comes from outer space and loves eating metal.
17.13.47 #       <hardeep> zagor: btw, i'm encountering a skip problem at song startup on my ajbr6.
17.13.50 #       <quelsaruk> it was a program to teach english to young children
17.14.39 #       <elinenbe> all children here know english though!
17.14.41 #       <elinenbe> ;)
17.14.59 #       <quelsaruk> ;)
17.15.25 #       <Zagor> hardeep: explain
17.16.46 #       <hardeep> zagor: songs either skip or go silent a few seconds after starting... it's because the songs are starting too quickly...  there's a hacky workaround at http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/patches/mpeg.diff but I haven't had a chance to look closer since monday
17.17.03 #       <hardeep> i've told linus about it
17.17.23 #       <quelsaruk> langhaarrocker: http://www.early-advantage.com/
17.17.41 #       <Zagor> hardeep: ok
17.17.45 #       <elinenbe> rebooting
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17.19.05 #       <quelsaruk> none of you knew muzzy? now i understand why you are all so extrange ;)
17.19.25 #       <langhaarrocker> I assumed it was one of your goats
17.20.48 #       <quelsaruk> i'll call muzzy to the next goat i buy :)
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19.05.34 #       <Zagor> hi
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19.12.36 #       <Temfate> anyone know of a easy way to get a memory dump while still running archos firmware? trying to find fm tuner adjustment calls...
19.12.47 #       <Temfate> I was told to ask Zagor or Badger earlier!
19.13.48 #       <langhaarrocker> Are you trying to reverse engeneer the archos firmware?
19.14.27 #       <Zagor> Temfate: I suggest using Rockbox code to dump the ROM code to a file
19.14.47 #       <Zagor> that, or descramble on of archos' firmware files
19.15.14 #       <Zagor> there is no way to get a mem dump while running the archos firmware
19.15.18 #       <langhaarrocker> Is the rockbox code of any use? Do we have fm tuner calls in it?
19.15.41 #       <Zagor> langhaarrocker: no, but he can use the rockbox file writing code to create a file to store the ROM contents in
19.16.05 #       <langhaarrocker> ... and thus get a copy of the rom image?
19.16.08 #       <Zagor> but admittedly just descrambling the archos ajz files are a lot simpler :-)
19.16.09 #       <Zagor> yes
19.17.28 #       <langhaarrocker> Probably for programming the fm tuner it's easier to wait for Linus to finish the schematic and investigate the data sheets of the used chips.
19.17.48 #       <Zagor> yeah. but who wants to wait? ;)
19.18.35 #       <langhaarrocker> Then get a beeper for <10 EUR and make the schematic yourself :)
19.19.09 #       <Zagor> haha
19.20.00 #       <langhaarrocker> Zagor: have you ever investigated wether the original firmware _sends_ on the unused serial out line?
19.20.43 #       <Zagor> not specifically. but i'm 99.6% sure it doesn't
19.21.04 #       <Zagor> btw, what unused serial out?
19.21.12 #       <Zagor> there is only one serial pin
19.21.24 #       <langhaarrocker> That's the one I'm speaking of.
19.21.49 #       <Zagor> that pin is set to "input" and then never changed
19.21.51 #       <langhaarrocker> I just wanted to make clear that I'm aware that it isn't connected to the outside world without hw mod
19.22.10 #       <langhaarrocker> ?!?
19.22.12 #       <Temfate> sorry; was afk... So dis-asm the original is easiest in your opinion? Anyone know what address to start looking at first?
19.22.19 #       <Zagor> yes. it ends in a pad on the board
19.22.53 #       <Zagor> Temfate: the code starts at offset 0x200 in the file. then just follow... :-)
19.22.57 #       <Temfate> I already went ovber the spec sheets for the FM tuner chip...
19.23.03 #       <Temfate> Cool.
19.23.05 #       <Temfate> Thanks
19.23.25 #       <Temfate> SH1 proc?
19.23.28 #       <Zagor> yup
19.23.30 #       <langhaarrocker> Temfate: you have to descramble the *.ajz first
19.23.47 #       <langhaarrocker> The tool can be found in the tools directory of rockbox
19.23.52 #       <langhaarrocker> (source)
19.23.55 #       <Temfate> Maybe I should start at the beginning; they encrypt/scramble it?
19.23.55 #       <Zagor> Temfate: this could give some hints: http://rockbox.haxx.se/notes.html
19.24.09 #       <Zagor> although it's for the player models
19.24.33 #       <Zagor> Temfate: yes, read the front page. :-) (the last few paragraphs)
19.25.11 #       <Zagor> oh, it doesn't actually say there that it's scrambled...
19.25.22 #       <Temfate> hey that page it great... Why isn't it linked to on the homepage?
19.26.02 #       <Zagor> it is. Documentation->Research Notes
19.26.10 #       <Zagor> also from the bottom of the front page
19.26.15 #       <thu> how are things looking for rockbox on the FM Recorders?
19.26.36 #       <Zagor> thu: everything works except the fm tuner
19.26.51 #       <thu> heh.. my fm tuner doesn't work much anyway
19.26.56 #       <thu> it needs an antenna or something
19.27.19 #       <Temfate> it's pretty crummy; but rockbox should implement it to be the perfect firmware for the archos.
19.27.21 #       <thu> Zagor: what about that battery life problem?
19.27.37 #       <Zagor> which battery life problem?
19.27.51 #       <thu> uhm.. actually battery charging problem
19.28.19 #       <thu> last time I checked there were some battery-related problems with rockbox and the FM-R
19.28.34 #       <Zagor> the charging is handled completely in hardware so it's not much of a Rockbox issue
19.29.01 #       <langhaarrocker> Interesting.
19.29.28 #       <langhaarrocker> Do you know wether it's the same kind of hardware as in the players?
19.29.35 #       <thu> btw.. are there any usb-host controllers that could be added to an archos?
19.29.50 #       <thu> it would be great to connect it to various devices that need storage
19.30.11 #       <Zagor> thu: I don't think so. I've never seen it.
19.30.32 #       <thu> that's too bad
19.30.52 #       <langhaarrocker> thu: you need a master usb device. Digicams and similar usually are slaves.
19.31.18 #       <thu> langhaarrocker: that was the point.. some master device that could connect a camera/palmtop/whatever to an archos
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19.32.00 #       <langhaarrocker> What kind of device are you thinking of? I can only think of computers.
19.32.01 #       <tracktheripper> HI
19.32.06 #       <tracktheripper> everybody!!1
19.32.14 #       <langhaarrocker> hi
19.32.34 #       <PsycoXul> hmmm
19.32.34 #       <Zagor> it would need a lot of complexity, since the master initiates all transfers. how would the palm/camera read/write to the disk?
19.32.43 #       <PsycoXul> langhaarrocker: hey you're around heh
19.32.57 #       <langhaarrocker> yes, a very little bit.
19.33.04 #       <thu> I guess that's why there aren't any out there
19.33.39 #       <PsycoXul> langhaarrocker: i'm gonna send you something
19.34.59 #       <tracktheripper> wots the latest??
19.35.00 #       <tracktheripper> :)
19.35.01 #       <Temfate> zagor: Does the descrambling take place somewhere in the archos firmware; do you know the address?
19.36.07 #       <langhaarrocker> there's a tool for that. Get the source from cvs or tarball and you can find it in tools directory.
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19.36.49 #       <Temfate> got the tool; just curious...
19.37.21 #       <Zagor> Temfate: the descrambling is done in ROM firmware. i don't think the loadable firmware contains it.
19.37.42 #       <Temfate> ah ok; how the heck did you guys crack it???!!!
19.37.54 #       <Zagor> hard work... :-)
19.39.00 #       <langhaarrocker> When I first read about this rockbox idea I really believed that those guys didn't have any clue what they were up at. But it proved that they knew and were in fact willig to take the effort. Geeks.
19.42.16 #       <Zagor> hehe
19.45.04 #       <langhaarrocker> I'd probably had given up as soon as I had realized the firmware was scrambled.
19.45.49 #       <Zagor> well the project wasn't born until the scrambling was cracked.
19.47.57 #       <langhaarrocker> Oh, yes. Those old days, when I used to hang around in the archos6000 yahoo group...
19.48.04 #       <Zagor> hehe
19.48.18 #       <Zagor> nostalgia isn't what it used to be
19.48.30 #       <langhaarrocker> los
19.48.34 #       <langhaarrocker> lol
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19.53.13 #       <quelsaruk> nostalgia??
19.55.43 #       <langhaarrocker> don't confuse with nostrils.
19.57.15 #       <quelsaruk> ¿???
19.57.33 #       <langhaarrocker> :)
20.01.42 #       <quelsaruk> i'm what in spanish is called a "empanado"
20.02.08 #       <Zagor> goat sheperd?
20.04.15 #       <langhaarrocker> now he's becoming greedy. First he wants to be a techno priest and now he wants to improve his position to a goat sheperd.
20.04.28 #       <quelsaruk> a person that is always in "sleep mode" and you can't re-activate his mind, so he doesn't get nor even half of the things that occur around him.
20.04.39 #       <quelsaruk> more or less
20.04.58 #       <quelsaruk> i'm happy as a techno pirest...
20.05.05 #       <quelsaruk> :P
20.06.33 #       <langhaarrocker> Nostalgia is when old grandad sits in the sunset and talks about the good old days. When I talk about good old days nostalgia isn't what it used to be. 
20.06.38 #       <quelsaruk> i know
20.06.43 #       <quelsaruk> that's a spanish word
20.06.56 #       <quelsaruk> or at least in spanish it's the same than in english
20.07.07 #       <quelsaruk> but i dunno why you said anything about nbostalgia
20.07.36 #       <Zagor> we were talking about the start of the rockbox project
20.08.47 #       <quelsaruk> ahhh
20.09.41 #       <quelsaruk> well.. i knew about rockbox in august, and tried to make my first patches in september.. so i'm still young here... ( i hope)
20.10.10 #       <langhaarrocker> So you don't know those days when I didn't pollute this chat with offtopic 'jokes' because this channel didn't exist.
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20.12.01 #       <quelsaruk> nops
20.13.00 #       <quelsaruk> i wasn't *that* lucky
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20.17.10 #       <quelsaruk> great.. i've nearly jumped from 10.000 meters high and i just hope i have a parachute :(
20.18.38 #       <langhaarrocker> I don't use parachutes. I prefer paragliders. I'm quite confident with my Nova Pelix 23 :)
20.18.53 #       <adi|home> why would you need a parachute from 10 meters?
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20.19.02 #       <quelsaruk> 10000 meters
20.19.11 #       <quelsaruk> it's just an expresion
20.19.23 #       <adi|home> no.. you said 10.000 :)
20.19.46 #       <langhaarrocker> that's a bit difference. At 10000 meters I'd want oxygen, too.
20.19.48 #       <quelsaruk> to say you've done something really weird without knowing what results expect
20.21.10 #       <josh966_> anyone here have the remote control?
20.21.12 #       <langhaarrocker> Have you used an uncertified ceremonial knife?
20.21.12 #       * langhaarrocker is guessing</BODY></HTML>
20.21.28 #       <langhaarrocker> josh966: not me
20.21.36 #       <quelsaruk> neither me
20.22.12 #       <josh966_> hm, i see it is not offered for fmrec and was curious why
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20.23.02 #       <tracktheripper> Good evening
20.23.05 #       <tracktheripper> hows everyone
20.23.18 #       <langhaarrocker> about to leave work and have a naü
20.23.21 #       <langhaarrocker> nap
20.23.27 #       <tracktheripper> lol
20.23.36 #       <tracktheripper> its 7:25pm uk time here
20.23.58 #       <quelsaruk> langhaarrocker: will you try to get that "fairytale" ??
20.24.07 #       <tracktheripper> hi Quelsaruk
20.24.12 #       <quelsaruk> hi tracktheripper
20.24.18 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
20.24.19 #       <tracktheripper> how r u
20.24.25 #       <quelsaruk> not quite well
20.24.30 #       <tracktheripper> awwwwwww
20.24.33 #       <tracktheripper> :-(
20.24.40 #       <quelsaruk> but doesn't really matter
20.24.43 #       <quelsaruk> :)
20.24.46 #       <tracktheripper> good :)
20.24.50 #       <langhaarrocker> quelsaruk: I can't get through the firewall here at work. And I really prefere not to ftp it at home with 56 kBit
20.25.04 #       <tracktheripper> Quel what do u really think of the redesigned chassis of the FM recorder>
20.25.04 #       <quelsaruk> of course...
20.25.23 #       <quelsaruk> no comments today ;)
20.25.38 #       <quelsaruk> langhaarrocker: i'll try to hang it on a web server or so
20.25.39 #       <tracktheripper> just a simple question
20.25.46 #       <tracktheripper> i think it looks boring myself
20.25.55 #       <langhaarrocker> quelsaruk: :)
20.25.59 #       <quelsaruk> i know tracktheripper, but i dunno
20.26.17 #       <tracktheripper> and it doesnt feel as high quality
20.26.20 #       <tracktheripper> feels somewhat cheeper
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20.27.30 #       <tracktheripper> im thinking of a few ways to dim the backlight
20.28.25 #       <tracktheripper> <-- wonders if a variable resistor could be used
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20.36.24 #       <langhaarrocker> normal pots can handle about 1/4 Watt. -> I assume it should work.
20.36.38 #       <tracktheripper> :)
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20.36.59 #       <tracktheripper> just playing with Quel's ID3 tag editor
20.38.34 #       <quelsaruk> quel's??
20.38.37 #       <quelsaruk> which one is that?
20.38.49 #       <quelsaruk> i haven't done any id3 tag edito
20.38.58 #       <tracktheripper> he personally emailed it to me
20.39.10 #       <quelsaruk> ummm
20.39.12 #       <langhaarrocker> quelsaruk: why haven't you?
20.39.13 #       <tracktheripper> he compiled it for me thats why its NOT in the daily builds
20.39.31 #       <quelsaruk> ........
20.39.33 #       <tracktheripper> it works superb
20.39.43 #       <tracktheripper> you can even choose genres for songs out of a lise
20.39.44 #       <tracktheripper> list
20.39.48 #       <quelsaruk> sorry
20.39.56 #       <quelsaruk> i'm lost
20.40.01 #       <tracktheripper> sorry Quel it wasnt you it was someone else
20.40.06 #       <tracktheripper> wiv a similar name
20.40.15 #       <tracktheripper> but anyway the ID3 tag editor is superb
20.40.29 #       <langhaarrocker> quelsaruk: do you have an alter ego sometimes?
20.40.52 #       <tracktheripper> :-P
20.41.19 #       <quelsaruk> langhaarrocker: i'm trying to suspect that...
20.41.54 #       <quelsaruk> maybe the demons i exorcice from my archos get into myself and make me do strange things
20.42.11 #       <tracktheripper> if only hard drive makers could usea bit more "pixie dust"
20.42.59 #       <tracktheripper> i want a 200Gb drive for my Archos
20.43.33 #       <langhaarrocker> do you have usb2.0?
20.43.38 #       <tracktheripper> no
20.43.44 #       <tracktheripper> but usb1 works fine for me
20.44.05 #       <tracktheripper> USB2 is only good if you are severly impatient :-)
20.44.16 #       <langhaarrocker> I'd want usb7.0 before adressing 200GB :)
20.44.25 #       <tracktheripper> :)):)):))
20.44.47 #       <tracktheripper> actually im gonna put a 50Tb holographic drive in mine ;-)
20.44.54 #       <Temfate> I still say just add an external ata port on the archos for fast access...
20.45.22 #       <langhaarrocker> 50Tb? You mean the tesa drive? :)
20.45.37 #       <tracktheripper> no 50Tb - 5,000Gb
20.45.46 #       <tracktheripper> sorry 50,000Gb
20.46.30 #       <langhaarrocker> There have been experiments with tesa film as a holographic storage medium. They could store data in the magnitude of Terabytes on a single roll of tesa film.
20.46.45 #       <tracktheripper> lol
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20.46.52 #       <langhaarrocker> that's no joke.
20.46.56 #       <tracktheripper> heehee
20.46.59 #       <TBoy> yep would be kwl
20.47.12 #       <TBoy> but I don'T like the sound of roll
20.47.20 #       <tracktheripper> maybe someone will submit a request  "Support for a 200Gb tape drive instead of a hard drive :-)"
20.47.37 #       <langhaarrocker> would be easy to fix at least.
20.47.43 #       <tracktheripper> lol
20.47.47 #       <TBoy> I mean that kinda makes me think of dats or normal tapes
20.47.57 #       <TBoy> I don't like that
20.48.14 #       <tracktheripper> well a tape cartridge can hold more than a hard-drive :-)
20.48.24 #       <TBoy> I know that
20.48.28 #       <tracktheripper> and they are about the same size as an Archos :-P
20.48.38 #       <langhaarrocker> They didn't unroll the tape. Just fired with lasers on the roll and melted the glue slightly.
20.48.46 #       <tracktheripper> lol
20.48.50 #       <TBoy> hehe
20.49.17 #       <TBoy> yeah but rew/ff on the tape and thinking of that the tape could rip
20.49.23 #       <TBoy> but would be kwl
20.49.28 #       <tracktheripper> :-(
20.49.28 #       <TBoy> I would try it
20.50.14 #       <tracktheripper> well a tape cartridge and hard-disk are both magnetic
20.50.14 #       <tracktheripper> so whats the difference?
20.50.47 #       <TBoy> tape rippable hd not rippable
20.50.53 #       <TBoy> but hd scratchable
20.51.02 #       <tracktheripper> well there u go, swings and roundabouts
20.51.05 #       <tracktheripper> :-P
20.51.05 #       <TBoy> but I think dats or slower
20.51.20 #       <tracktheripper> well why don't they make a 20Gb flashmemory chip?
20.51.25 #       <tracktheripper> would be sooooooo cool :-)
20.51.45 #       <TBoy> haha that would be kwl but would cost as much as an bentley
20.51.51 #       <TBoy> a bentley
20.51.57 #       <tracktheripper> well it would be blazingly fast :-)
20.52.32 #       <tracktheripper> and flashmemory does not require defragging
20.53.57 #       <tracktheripper> is it possible to defragment a 200Gb tape cartridge?
20.54.04 #       <langhaarrocker> http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,39082,00.asp
20.54.04 #       <tracktheripper> (don't laugh - a serious question)
20.54.05 #       <tracktheripper> :)
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20.56.35 #       <TBoy> now thats something else than dats
20.56.41 #       <TBoy> and thats kwl
20.56.47 #       <tracktheripper> lol
20.57.06 #       <tracktheripper> :-(
21.02.02 #       <langhaarrocker> cu
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21.03.13 #       <tracktheripper> ciao
21.03.15 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
21.05.22 #       <tracktheripper> :)
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21.44.12 #       <TBoy> why the sad face track
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