--- Log for 25.03.103 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 28 days and 13 hours ago 00.00.11 Join _seb_ [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 00.19.31 Join Kuji [0] (~kuji@m121-mp1.cvx2-b.lng.dial.ntli.net) 00.20.49 Part Kuji 00.31.37 Quit edx () 00.32.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.38.32 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-195-212.bct.bellsouth.net) 00.40.12 Quit Jet8810 (Client Quit) 00.46.36 Quit Snorlax () 00.46.41 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 00.46.56 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Josh@adsl-34-195-212.bct.bellsouth.net) 01.01.23 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 01.17.25 # i think i hate ssh 01.17.27 # * adi|work sighs 01.18.27 # why? 01.18.33 # its just giving me issues 01.18.38 # like? 01.18.44 # openssh-3.5p1 isn't playing nice 01.18.51 # compiles fine, installs fine 01.19.06 # heh 01.19.12 # i'm still on 3.4p1 01.19.12 # :/ 01.20.15 # prob i hit is, sshd runs fine, config file looks okay 01.20.18 # i can ssh out no prob.. 01.20.36 # but any connections that come in, the actual password entry fails.. 01.21.38 # hmm weird 01.26.08 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-221-141.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 01.27.12 Join Snorlax [0] (Snorlax@h245n2fls34o883.telia.com) 01.44.29 Nick adi|work is now known as adiamas (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 01.44.29 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.45.02 Mode "#rockbox +o adiamas " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 01.45.29 Topic "Documentation help wanted. Ask what you can do for your Rockbox today!" by adiamas (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 01.45.39 Nick adiamas is now known as adi|work (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 01.45.41 Mode "#rockbox -o adi|work " by adi|work (~adiamas@dogwood.vport.net) 01.45.49 # * adi|work is away: going home 01.49.06 Join elinenbe_ [0] (trilluser@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 01.49.06 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.49.12 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (trilluser@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 02.14.36 Part LinusN 02.32.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.36.40 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 02.45.53 # * PsycoXul wonders if full-duplex is possible 02.46.27 # full duplex what? 02.46.36 # audio? 02.46.37 # um 02.46.43 # simultaneous playback and recording 02.46.57 # record and playback simultaneously? 02.47.01 # nope 02.47.06 # aww :/ 02.49.40 # the bumpers on my new FM recorder really stink 02.49.53 # i mean litteraly, they just smell aweful 02.50.47 # awful too :p 03.00.57 # aha, you bought a rec-fm 03.06.17 # nah, i took my studio20 into best buy and they gave me one 03.06.18 # heh 03.09.16 # you should see the action we got in #ipodlinux !! 03.10.18 # ? 03.13.14 # #ipodlinux is linux on Ipod's "Official" IRC channel! 03.13.17 # it came with a pretty cool song called "Eye" by Mike Zee 03.13.37 # http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net 03.13.44 # PsycoXul: they all do 03.13.59 # we got quite some progress on the project! 03.14.16 # well my studio20 had some other songs on there that i don't even remember and probably rm'd all of heh 03.16.48 # heh i got my pda back from repairs today 03.17.22 # once it's charged i'll finally get to try out linux on there 03.27.23 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-221-141.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 03.40.42 Join OnoSendai [0] (geshtolt@dhcp065-029-079-112.indy.rr.com) 03.40.45 # hello all 03.41.23 # * OnoSendai just switched to rockbox and loves it 03.42.24 Nick Snorlax is now known as Snorlax|ZzZ (Snorlax@h245n2fls34o883.telia.com) 03.43.11 # OnoSendai: congrats 03.43.20 # : ) 03.43.48 # it's a pity that the recording function is the only thing keeping the archos ajz on the drive 03.43.59 # * OnoSendai awaits eagerly 03.44.02 # get the daily build 03.44.05 # use a daily build instead of the old 1.4 03.44.14 # it says they are buggy.. 03.44.20 # not to worry tho? 03.44.30 # not really 03.44.32 # not anymore so than 1.4 (and probably less) 03.44.36 # i think 03.44.36 # sweet 03.45.01 # you may want to back up your jukebox if you are worried 03.45.57 # i didn't think that ajz files would harm data on the drive 03.46.35 # well, imagine that there were a bug in our file system driver 03.46.48 # ah 03.47.15 # i haven't trashed my data yet, though 03.47.52 # do i have to have one ajz named ajbrec or will it let me choose if there isn't a default? 03.48.08 # that's the point of rolo right ? 03.48.15 # ROLO is built into rockbox 03.48.19 # the firmware in ROM loads ajbrec.ajz, else it starts the ROM image 03.48.20 # so you need rockbox booted to use it 03.48.50 # rolo lets you start another firmware by "running" it in the rockbox file browser 03.49.01 # but rockbox must be loaded 03.49.14 # i guess i don't need to worry if it the daily has everything now.. 03.49.36 # some people use the original firmware for playlist editing 03.49.57 # i ROLO the original firmware for the radio on the FM currently... 03.50.12 # not like i listen to the radio much anyway, but it's nice to have since it's there heh 03.50.16 # * OnoSendai has a recorder 20.. 03.50.33 # i rolo the original firmware occasionally to remind me how good rockbox is... :-) 03.50.40 # does anybody worry about re-formatting at all ? 03.50.41 # hehe 03.50.48 # i couldn't believe how fast it was.. ! 03.50.54 # i have a Player 6k, a recorder 20 and an fm recorder 20 03.51.15 # and the rockbox ajz is bigger too ! that just doesn't make sense to me.. 03.51.23 # i used to have a studio20, which bestbuy recently replaced under warranty with an fm recorder 20 03.51.35 # OnoSendai: it's the demos and games heh 03.51.36 # hehe.. sometimes you gotta love bestbuy 03.51.50 # is there a way to remove the games ? 03.51.57 # indeed 03.52.00 # it's a compile-time option 03.52.03 # OnoSendai: why doesn't it make sense that rockbox is bigger? 03.52.33 # OnoSendai: removing the games will not buy you much 03.52.36 # it's faster... which makes me think it takes up less memory.. but the ajz file is bigger... so it must take up more... 03.52.57 # well speed and size aren't always related 03.53.01 # memory usage and speed are two entirely different things 03.53.05 # eh... it's just something i'll never use.. 03.53.26 # but they are usually directly proportional... i guess that just speaks well of the coding... 03.53.30 # gcc seems to generate bigger code the more optimized it is in fact heh 03.53.40 # as far as compiler opts go 03.53.51 # so it can be bigger == faster 03.53.51 # anyway, it's 4am here, i gotta go to sleep 03.53.57 # thanks LinusN 03.53.58 # LinusN: night 03.53.59 # cu guys 03.54.04 Part LinusN 03.54.28 # so do you format at all ? or do i not need to worry about drive maintenance? 03.54.48 # i never did it to my studio20 03.55.00 # which got for xmas of 2001 03.55.11 # and just got replace last week 03.55.31 # right on... i've had mine close to a year... never messed with usb drives before tho... wasn't aware of any maintenance they needed 03.55.37 # if any 03.55.54 # yeah well it's not like you usualy add and remove files a lot to these things 03.56.04 # at least i don't, and don't think most people do 03.56.12 # so you generaly shouldn't get much, if any, fragmentation 03.56.33 # and just general silly little errors a scandisk now and then should fix if any come up 03.56.55 # unless something somehow gets really screwed up and then you'll probably know you should do a reformat heh 03.57.01 # i transfer big files every now and then... maybe a 5 gig a month or so 03.57.16 # i haven't ran a scandisk on it either.. 03.57.19 # ah well yeah it depends on your usage i guess 03.57.29 # i wouldn't worry about fragmentation unless i notice an impact on performance 03.57.54 # : ) which is healthily disguised using rockbox now : ) i'm giddy 03.58.02 # hehe 03.58.12 # i'm gonna go play with the cfg file... 03.58.18 # thanks PsycoXul 03.58.20 # cya 03.58.20 # yeah 03.58.21 # have fun 03.58.28 # i already am 03.58.30 # hehe 03.58.31 Part OnoSendai 04.32.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.27.24 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.35.29 Join mrsubway [0] (mrsubway@ool-18be9bb8.dyn.optonline.net) 05.35.37 # Anyone on? 05.37.30 Join ][ncubus [0] (jirc@gamma334-067.complex1.resnet.yorku.ca) 05.37.37 # <][ncubus> hey all 05.37.59 # <][ncubus> i have a few questions about the Archos 6000, anyone anti idling? 05.39.08 # I have a question too about the battery indicator in version 2 betas? 05.40.34 # The battery indicator always shows the battery life lower than it really is. Now, if the indicator runs out, will rockbox stop the player even though the battery really has more life. 05.40.57 # If you are logging this and can send a reply to mrsubway@optonline.net, I'd appreciate it. All else works damn good! :) 05.41.03 # <][ncubus> how is skipping on the unit, can i walk/run with it or no? 05.41.31 # I've been walking fine with it. I'm too fat to run. :) Are you skipping? 05.41.56 # <][ncubus> im am considering buying one on ebay 05.42.11 # <][ncubus> they're priced competitively 05.42.26 # Oh. If you can afford it, GET IT! Nice unit. I reccomend the Archos Jukebox Recorder 20. That's what I have. 05.42.34 # <][ncubus> 20GB 05.42.34 # <][ncubus> ya 05.42.46 # <][ncubus> they sell for substantially more 05.42.52 # <][ncubus> but obviously they're better 05.43.05 # I've got like 400 songs, and still have 17 gigs left. 05.43.08 # <][ncubus> do you use the recorder functions at all? 05.44.38 Quit mrsubway () 05.58.43 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-221-141.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 06.32.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.56.06 Quit ][ncubus ("Leaving") 06.56.06 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.58.55 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-221-141.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 08.31.19 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 08.31.19 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.32.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.44.06 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.46.27 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 08.46.36 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 08.48.13 Quit uski (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08.52.15 # any difference with the hard reset? 08.52.43 # zagor... 08.52.53 # any chance of having the guy thats bouncing removed from the mailing list? 08.53.09 # johndavidson@jdis.net 08.53.52 # yeah 08.55.50 # ty 08.56.03 # weve had 3 messages bounce if i remember correctly... 08.56.40 # and im home this weekend.. so im going to see if i can put togeather a draft of updated docs for commands etc... 08.56.45 # we are way behind on that.. 08.57.07 # and on that.. im off to bed.. my sciatica is killing me.. 08.57.09 # night 08.58.41 # sleep well 09.59.06 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-221-141.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 10.03.23 Join Mighty [0] (mboss@h72n1fls35o931.telia.com) 10.03.45 # Zagor? He's been idle for 4 weeks with his QuakeNet client ? 10.04.13 # yeah, i'm running an irc proxy 10.04.25 # ahh 10.04.52 # thought you were on vication down on some tropical island 10.04.59 # hehe, not yet :) 10.08.57 Join langhaarrocker [0] (~Phil@212-204-020-027.dsl1.versanet.de) 10.16.13 Join PsycoXul_ [0] (psyco@adsl-63-205-47-208.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 10.18.21 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.21.01 # Has something changed in the key code recently? Sometimes my unit mixes up the up key and the f2 key. The values in the debug menu of the ad converters show values that don't suggest overlapping value ranges for these keys. 10.23.52 Join Bagder [241] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) 10.33.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.37.10 Quit Mighty ("BitchX: use it, it makes hair grow in funny places!") 11.07.07 # nobody tried today's build yet? 11.07.07 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.07.18 # I do. 11.07.35 # red led death is different now. 11.07.41 # how? 11.07.55 Join ken0__ [0] (marklar2@80.178.44.182) 11.08.09 # It returns to the browser after some time but if you want to start a new song it enters the red led death again. 11.08.55 # yes. it appears the drive gets somehow stuck in error mode 11.08.57 # changing the dir in the browser doesn't spin up the drive, no dir shown, no red led. 11.09.25 # weird 11.10.28 # that there's no red led when the browser tries to access the drive in error mode? 11.11.57 # * langhaarrocker tries chan 10, key 70 on the jukebox again 11.12.35 # yes 11.13.51 # Well, there's definitly an improvement: you now can play wormlet while in red led death state :) 11.14.01 # haha 11.17.07 # :-D 11.17.09 # Yay! 11.17.13 # That's a major improvement! 11.22.34 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB47F.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.25.17 Quit ken0 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.43.43 Quit _seb_ (SendQ exceeded) 11.44.14 Join _seb_ [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 11.44.54 # strange: there seem to be different error states. When I now try to change dir / song after "red led death state recovery" the disk spins up. 11.45.42 # it displays no dir / doesn't play songs though. 12.10.30 # Zagor: can't you provoke the error at all? 12.32.50 Nick Snorlax|ZzZ is now known as Snorlax (Snorlax@h245n2fls34o883.telia.com) 12.33.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.37.23 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-221-141.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 13.03.28 # langhaarrocker: no 13.03.28 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.16.35 # Zagor: seems your hd is better than my ibm. 14.33.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.37.34 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-221-141.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 14.41.34 Join Nomad__ [0] (nomad@24-216-225-11.charter.com) 14.41.42 # 'lo again 14.41.44 # Zagor around? 14.42.21 # yup 14.43.09 # Tested the anti-idle yesterday 14.43.35 # basically my Studio10 in a double wrap of foam from a motherboard box in the pocket of my jacket 14.43.44 # doing 75-85 down the highway on my motorcycle 14.43.57 # not anti-idle, anti-skip 14.44.03 # mental dyslexia today 14.44.37 # anti-skip may not be aimed at that scenario but it didn't help 14.44.43 # tried setting for 7 secs and for 3 secs 14.44.46 # no change 14.45.00 # with yesterday morning's bleeding edge build 14.45.17 # anything useful I can do ? 14.45.59 # since yesterday evening the beeding edge contains a hard-reset of the hd. -> red led dead changed symptomatically. 14.46.22 # meaning? 14.46.45 # I won't be on the bike again until Friday since I have to ferry around family 14.46.54 # you can now play wormlet while in red led death. 14.47.08 # cool I guess :> 14.47.10 # (ui doesn't freeze) 14.47.20 # on the bike I can't see the UI or LED's or anything 14.47.26 # Nomad__: you haven't said yet what result you had... 14.47.30 # can't adjust it either, tried to buy a remote 14.47.34 # Zagor: sorry 14.47.38 # lost the train of thought 14.47.55 # it used to timeout and turn off/hang hard when I hit 75'ish for more than a min 14.48.11 # Yesterday though it would start playing again after I'd been under 55 for more than 3 mins 14.48.38 # considering I mostly want the unit running when stuck sitting in traffic that's a big improvement 14.48.59 # it's such an odd problem 14.49.28 # yeah, I figure not many people will likely run into this on a reguar basis (or not report it here, etc) 14.49.43 # actually quite many do :-( 14.49.49 # one reason I appreciate you atleast listening even if you are cussing at the monitor about the idiot on the motorcycle 14.49.58 # :> 14.50.04 # unfortunately, I'm not one of them so I can never test improvements 14.50.26 # yeah, part of why I'm volunteering to do what I can instead of bitching and leaving 14.50.41 # no I use my own archos while riding my bike, so I have the same situation. but for me it works without a hitch. 14.50.44 # could you throw together a custom .mod with extra logging I can send you? 14.50.49 # bicycle faster! 14.50.52 # :) 14.51.12 # It works great until I hit 75+ on the highway then thunka 14.51.16 # Schnueff: i actually go over some pretty rough stuff every day to/from work. but that doesn't seem to matter. 14.51.18 # almost like the drive just can't read 14.51.53 # Nomad__: could the pocket of your jacket start flapping at that speed, or something? 14.52.18 # not really, it's a heavy leather jacket, I've got the loose edge folded under as well 14.52.46 # * langhaarrocker sees funny pocket-flapping-motorcyclers in his imagination 14.52.46 # lol 14.53.22 # langhaarrocker: imagine a thinner chitty chitty bang bang... I'm hoping to acheive flight when I hit 88mph 14.53.37 # :) 15.03.40 # brb 15.03.52 Quit elinenbe (" HydraIRC -> http://hydrairc.sf.net <- IRC has never been so cool") 15.05.46 # I had pretty much problems with skipping & motorcycle last summer 15.06.22 # its the automatic anti-motorcycle device that turns on 15.06.25 # Maybe it's bike dependend, too. 15.06.43 # ArchOS doesn't seem to have it installed. 15.07.11 # they made us install it ;-) 15.07.35 # Who? the police or traffic ministry? 15.08.08 # completely ot: does anybody know a free homepage provider that supports php? 15.10.19 # Hes: did you solve the problem or remove one component? 15.10.33 # I did quite a bit of debugging on the skipping at high speed, we got a little improvement (zagor&friends tuned the ATA stuff several times) 15.10.48 # but it didnt' go away completely 15.10.51 # k 15.11.02 # my biking season will start within a month, will continue on it then 8-) 15.11.03 # I'm riding an 1100 Vtwin, it vibrates pretty well 15.11.08 # Hes: are you saying the stock firmware never skips, or just that it doesn't freeze? 15.11.12 # may just be a problem with physics 15.11.29 # Nomad__: skipping is unavoidable, but it shouldn't stop. 15.11.51 # I don't think I've noticed skipping on the bike. 15.11.52 # yesterday it didn't stop completely 15.12.04 # when I dropped the speed down a good bit it would eventually resume 15.12.16 # I noticed skipping in car once, and rockbox would stop (lousy car, vibrates) 15.12.19 # but the entire time I stayed 75+ (10-15 mins) it didnt' play a note 15.12.23 # Nomad__: 3 minutes is too long. it should take 5-10 seconds max. 15.12.43 # my 750cc 4cylinder doesn't vibrate too much, it's the wind & pocket vibrating 15.13.16 # Hes: admit that it's you who's vibrating in fear of speed! :) 15.13.19 # I tried to eliminate the pocket problems by tucking the fold under and even tried to "hold" it but no good 15.14.11 # in the car i got around the skipping/halting by holding the device on my lap 15.14.34 # I can put it on the center console of my truck as I drive to work and have no problems with skip, etc 15.15.26 # i've been thinking about upgrading to an 1100cc engine but I might have to hold that until the problem is resolved 8-) 15.16.36 # a remote that'd be usable with riding gloves on would be an interesting project too... 15.16.39 # if you stay 4cyl like a Magna you probably won't have a problem 15.17.06 # !!! 15.17.06 # mine is a Virago which has a very "strong" engine for an 1100... 15.17.09 # hey 15.17.11 # what 15.17.17 # uhh... 15.17.28 # Hes: there is a remote but Archos is back ordered on it 15.17.36 # Nomad__: too small buttons. 15.17.39 # it'll work with thin riding gloves but probably not cold weather thick ones 15.17.50 # i only have the latter 8-] 15.17.52 # It's warm enough here in Ga already I'm in my thin gloves :> 15.18.05 # I wear padded fingerless durring warm/hot days 15.18.52 # hmm, what happens when the playlist code fails reading? 15.19.05 # we've only been looking at the mpeg code so far 15.19.13 # ? 15.19.13 # i didn't run playlists 15.19.25 # but that would be another interesting scenario, yes 15.19.26 # I do but I start the playlist before the bike hits 75 :> 15.19.43 # the playlist is read for every new song 15.19.48 # my skipping usually occurs in the middle of the song but it could be when its queueing up the next song as well 15.19.54 # wow, that can be ugly 15.20.03 # My main playlist has 1500 songs easy 15.20.46 # in my case, without playlists, would the directory be looked into after too much skipping on a song & skipping to the next track? 15.20.54 # Nomad__: mine has 7700 songs. it's not a problem. 15.20.55 # and if that directory read would fail, could it jam? 15.21.02 # I need to find someone who'll do a memory upgrade on a Studio 10 and swap my studio 10+ cach 15.21.06 # ok 15.21.17 # I guess the playlists are "small" in ram terms 15.21.22 # Hes: we should look at that 15.21.33 # 8Gigs isn't that long a playlist in reality 15.21.38 # And I don't think the whole playlist is reread at that point anyway? 15.21.51 # no, we just lseek() to the line of the next filename 15.21.59 # because the index of the lines is in memory 15.22.00 # Nomad__: we only keep a seek index of each song in memory, so each song occupies 4 bytes only 15.22.09 # nice 15.22.23 # but the file is accessed. and what if we fail there? I haven't audited that part of the code much. 15.22.44 # that's indeed a subject worth to investigate 15.23.00 # afk a min, brb 15.23.13 # I just tried shaking my archos while filling the buffer. and I can make it skip to next track, but not freeze 15.23.36 # My recorder goes into red led death even in the middle of the song. 15.24.23 # also, we have a variety of disks installed, I think my unit went worse in this respect when I upgraded my disk from the stock IBM 15.24.24 # langhaarrocker: are you sure it's not caching the start of next track? 15.24.37 # Very sure. 15.24.51 # ok :( 15.25.52 # * langhaarrocker verifies 15.29.15 # I can make it red led dead at the second buffer refill with still 3:30 min of a 320kBit encoded Song 15.30.26 # ok 15.32.44 # langhaarrocker: does it ever make a click sound or anything? spin down? or just completely frozen stable. 15.34.08 # Interesting: When I hit the 'next' button it'll play a chunk of audio. Very short but I believe it's a chunk of the current song -> probably data from the old buffer. 15.34.08 # It stops playing, the disk keeps spinning, even after the red led goes off after ~30 seconds 15.34.37 # But when I hit the 'next' button, the red led turns on again. 15.35.14 # what disk model do you have? 15.36.27 # It that ibm 19 GB drive 15.36.27 # IC25N020ATDA04-0 as the drive info of rockbox says 15.36.39 # ok 15.36.42 # back 15.41.11 Join OnoSendai [0] (geshtolt@dhcp065-029-079-112.indy.rr.com) 15.41.13 # hello all 15.41.31 # While shaking I can hear noises that suggest the head searches the track. 15.41.36 # hello OnoSandai 15.42.04 # : ) 15.42.37 # * langhaarrocker can't read / write or neither :) 15.42.51 # ack... what the hell did you do ? 15.43.03 # I misspelled your name 15.43.26 # oh... hehe.. i thought you meant your JB wasn't reading or writing.. hehe 15.44.52 # No. I just realized that a german might feel insulted if he was called the way I misspelled your name. 15.45.41 # do you judge all things by how a german might feel? 15.45.56 # I have no other choice. I am german. 15.46.31 # hehe.. i guess not.. i _was_ born in heidelberg... but we left when i was 4 or 5.. 15.47.01 # never been back.. really want to see it.. i hear it's a cool town. 15.47.08 # I'm half german but no nothing about that side of the family 15.47.17 # courts wouldn't give my mom adoption records 15.47.23 # Zagor: funny! Now I have a flashing red led with "End Of Song List" again. I used to get this before the hard reset yesterday. Today it's the first time. 15.47.54 # is there any doco on this 'red death' ? 15.48.22 # The only docu concerning the red led death should be 'solved' 15.50.10 # ah... cool 15.50.48 # not yet. 15.52.20 # that is interesting 15.52.29 # to get that text, id3 needs to be null 15.52.53 # and the mpeg thread says it doesn't play anything 15.53.05 # Bagder: I believe it tries and fails to load every track in the list 15.53.09 # I just realized that I accidently turned off repeat. Maybe it in fact was the last song of the list. 15.53.48 # Zagor: hm, that might be a lead... 16.00.08 # in the wps_show() function 16.00.20 # what's in charge of keeping the id3 pointer up-to-date? 16.02.30 # update() calls mpeg_current_track() on each button timeout 16.02.57 # ah 16.03.07 # and (!!!) the current path is copied to the settings buffer 5 times per second... 16.03.18 # ehum 16.03.33 # uh, no. only if the file differs. my bad. 16.06.31 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 16.10.21 Join TetraPak [0] (Tetra@p5081302A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.14.28 # there is no doco for the definition of all items in the CFG file.. is there.. ? 16.15.11 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/custom_cfg_format.html 16.15.14 # you mean this? 16.15.51 # yeah.. i've seen that... i just want more details.. 16.15.57 # hmm ok 16.16.04 # like what _exactly_ does disk poweroff do ? 16.16.26 # is there an idle timeout then it powers off ? is that a setting somewhere.. ? 16.17.37 # i think it's a setting but i'm not sure 16.17.41 # Disk Spindown - Rockbox has a timer that makes it spin down the harddisk after being idle for a certain time. You can modify this timeout here. 16.19.00 # disk poweroff is an option that completely cuts the power to the disk after it has spun down. this saves power, but adds a bit more delay (about a second) to the spinup time 16.19.27 # brb 16.19.28 Quit TetraPak ("^^") 16.19.44 # so it's a more severe idle power off.. 16.19.52 # nono 16.20.12 # idle power-off is a setting for turning off the archos when idle for >x minutes 16.20.14 # it's an idle power off just for the hard drive 16.20.32 # there is always an idle-off for the drive. it's the "disk spindown" option. 16.20.45 # the disk poweroff just makes the spindown save even more power 16.21.08 # right on.. 16.22.19 # maybe there should be preset configs one day like "fast ui", "low energy consumption" ... 16.22.57 # yeah, that could be nice. just premade .cfg files 16.23.06 # but with names that a dau understands, too. 16.23.12 # yup 16.23.53 # : ) 16.24.07 # it wa a pleasant suprise to have a 'write .cfg' option 16.24.21 # cuz a cfg file is a bit overwhelming when first looking at it. 16.24.54 # yeah 16.25.32 # i'm trying to find def's in the archives.. 16.25.48 # is auto-volume a dsp normalizer ? 16.25.50 # If now someone did a real texteditor (neither vi nor emacs) we could have wps configurable online, too. 16.26.15 # OnoSandai: Yes, it's some kind of compressor / limiter 16.27.09 # does it work for recording also ? (thanks for being patient) 16.27.18 # no 16.27.50 # Well, it works on the output _while_ recording, but doesn't affect the recorded signal. 16.28.25 # wait wait... you can monitor while recording ? 16.28.33 # of course 16.29.41 # * OnoSendai has to go inflict pain on himself for being stupid 16.30.21 # i coulda swore i tried that, and it didn't work.... this only works with rockbox right? 16.32.36 # I haven't tried for a long time, but I think it was possible with the archos firmware, too. 16.33.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.34.33 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 16.34.38 # yeah.. figured.. oh well... it's a pleasant suprise... i'd always been pissed about that.. i was just wrong.. : ) 16.34.43 # time for nap... thanks guys. 16.35.03 # np 16.38.34 Join Temfate [0] (~Temfate@12-208-243-31.client.attbi.com) 16.54.04 Join sander_ [0] (~sander@209.10.122.251) 16.54.04 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.12.32 Part Zagor 17.22.16 # im off 17.22.19 Quit Bagder ("Client Exiting") 17.23.08 Quit langhaarrocker (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.25.17 Join tracktheripper [0] (~jirc@ACB3CBD3.ipt.aol.com) 17.25.32 # Hi 17.52.39 Quit webmind ("Reconnecting") 17.52.44 Join webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 17.54.15 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.230) 17.54.15 Quit ken0__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.57.20 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 18.05.03 Join josh966__ [0] (~chatzilla@ak.nlc.com) 18.11.48 Quit josh966__ ("ChatZilla 0.8.23 [Mozilla rv:1.3/20030312]") 18.11.56 Join TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.114.242.216) 18.12.08 # hoi 18.12.20 # I got a problem today 18.12.26 # I discoverd 18.12.41 # I was just zappin through my songs 18.13.11 # and all of a sudden the red led went on and just stayed on 18.13.18 # and the music stop playin 18.13.33 # and then after lets say 5-10 min it worked again 18.13.51 # has anyone encountered this type of problem 18.14.13 # I ride a FM recorder :D 18.18.34 Quit webmind ("leaving") 18.18.43 Join webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 18.29.57 Join josh966__ [0] (~chatzilla@ak.nlc.com) 18.33.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.38.47 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-221-141.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 18.41.46 Join uski [0] (~moo@gandalf.digital-network.org) 19.12.21 Nick PsycoXul_ is now known as PsycoXul (psyco@adsl-63-205-47-208.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 19.12.21 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.31.44 # what is S/PDIF 19.32.17 # a digital audio "protocol" 19.32.35 # so what does it do 19.32.59 # or what is it good for 19.33.10 # it's for digital audio 19.33.11 # :p 19.33.17 # electrically noisy environments ? 19.33.25 # where all analog signals get fucked up ? :) 19.33.59 # well the merits of transporting audio digitally is another matter 19.33.59 # heh 19.34.10 # psyco 19.34.16 # I had this prob today 19.34.18 # but thats what S/PDIF "does" is transports audio digitally 19.34.35 # I was just zappin through my songs 19.34.40 # and all of a sudden the red led went on and just stayed on 19.34.47 # and the music stop playin 19.34.48 # TBoy: sounds like the red led dead or whatever problem that some people have been having 19.35.29 # oh 19.35.41 # it's being looked into, but you can tell zagor, i guess, about your particular case of it 19.35.42 # ok 19.36.04 # this has happend to me quite often 19.36.39 # well see if you can find a guaranteed method to reproduce it 19.36.49 # yep 19.36.57 # and tell zagor about it 19.37.15 # or linusn or bagder probably 19.37.16 # heh 19.37.41 # yeah probably linus because we both ride a FM 20.04.30 # can someone help me with a very simple thing ? i need to know the exact error message that a "rockboxed" jukebox 6000 shows when there is no hard-drive attached to it 20.15.51 # huh? 20.18.34 # huh ? :) 20.18.41 # i have a problem with an archos jb6000 20.18.44 # huh :D 20.18.53 # if i access the hdd via the isd200 (= usb) it works correctly 20.19.16 # but when i use the lcd screen to browse the HD, the screen fuck up and i get chars like HgsQSDhtSDqsdgDF instead of the name 20.19.54 # so i would like to know where the problem is comong from; it can be a problem on the lcd controller 20.20.07 # or a problem between the RISC processor and the hard drive 20.20.20 # knowing the exact error messager would allow me to know if the problem comes from the lcd or not 20.24.25 # so if someone could remove the hdd of his jb6000 and tell me the error message, it would be great !!! 20.27.26 # thats alot your asking for 20.28.21 # why ? in 5 minutes it is done, isn't it ? 20.33.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.41.57 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-221-141.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 20.49.45 # no 20.49.51 # because 1. i have to open my case 20.49.56 # 2. risk breaking things 20.49.59 # 3. pull the drive 20.50.01 # and reboot 20.50.10 # and then 4,5,6 do all in reverse 20.54.16 # :\ 20.54.18 # k 20.57.21 # thats what I thought 21.10.53 Join wyfflemunky [0] (~chatzilla@128.227.197.98) 21.26.21 # * TBoy slaps TBoy around a bit with a large trout 21.26.22 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.49.42 Quit wyfflemunky ("ChatZilla 0.8.23 [Mozilla rv:1.3b/20030312]") 21.52.41 Quit edx (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22.01.31 Quit OnoSendai (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.02.42 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-221-141.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 22.08.20 Quit TBoy (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.22.13 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 22.33.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.40.48 Join IDC-Dragon [0] (jirc@pD9E3476A.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.40.48 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.42.29 Quit IDC-Dragon (Client Quit) 22.42.38 Join Guest1 [0] (jirc@pD9E3476A.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.42.46 Quit Guest1 (Client Quit) 22.43.02 Join IDC-Dragon [0] (jirc@pD9E3476A.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.45.15 # Hello, anybody active? Is is this java applet stuck? 22.46.12 # nope 22.46.13 # im here 22.48.15 # Do you know how to apply a patch to a local file? 22.54.31 # read the faq :) 22.54.58 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/patch.html 23.01.02 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 23.07.00 Join rocker92 [0] (ircle@203.217.65.175) 23.07.11 # is anyone around? 23.07.37 # yeps 23.07.48 # hey :) 23.07.56 # is there anywhere to download rockbox 1.3? 23.08.03 # 1.4 onwards don't work on my player 23.08.16 # not at all? 23.08.35 # nope, doesn't load or anything 23.08.46 # just boots up to the default archos os 23.08.56 # then you aren't dling properly... 23.09.03 # it is probably not due to a rockbox problem 23.09.18 # hmm, i don't know 23.09.20 # Bagder: which ssh are you running at home? 23.09.24 # 1.3 and earlier always worked 23.09.32 # rocker92: what is the exact name of the file you are copying to the archos? 23.09.34 # adi|home: OpenSSH_3.4p1 23.09.41 # then it stopped working when they combined the old and new player os 23.09.42 # grrr.. damnit.. 23.09.49 # 3.5p1 is giving me issues.. 23.09.54 # well i rename it to archos.mod 23.09.56 # in the root dir 23.10.07 # what was it named? 23.10.21 # i jusy tried archos20030325.mod 23.10.35 # and the mod from rockbox-1.4-player-old.zip 23.10.39 # and you have a player not a recorder right/ 23.10.45 # nope 23.10.53 # it's an old jukebox 6000 23.11.14 # hmmm... 23.11.26 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/rockbox-1.3-player-old.mod 23.11.47 # I'll be surprised if that works for you 23.11.58 # cool, lemme try 23.12.23 # bagder you know anyone running 3.5p1? 23.12.50 # I don't know any no, but then I don't know what versions people run 23.12.58 # nods 23.13.04 # hmm that didn't work either 23.13.16 # that's what I thought 23.13.36 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#66 23.13.38 # or similar 23.14.04 # well i just formatted my drive 23.14.14 # so i don't think the old mod would be there 23.14.46 # well, something makes the unit not find the .mod file 23.15.03 # i thought maybe it was because i had previously formatted with higher block size 23.15.20 # so i just formatted it with the default settings 23.16.37 # does the drive need to have a specific name? 23.16.45 # no 23.17.01 # lemme get the archos os 23.17.03 # see if that works 23.17.09 # yes, try that 23.17.22 # it that works, it'll truly surprise me 23.19.32 Quit josh966__ ("ChatZilla 0.8.23 [Mozilla rv:1.3/20030312]") 23.19.44 # man this is annoying 23.19.49 # that didn't work either 23.20.12 # i formatted fat32, does the archos want fat? 23.20.21 # i think so.. 23.20.26 # no fat32 if i remember right 23.20.28 # fat32 is fine 23.20.38 # * adi|work assumes the silence position again 23.21.01 # rocker92: and the built-in software works fine when run? 23.21.46 # yeah 23.21.49 # do you have file extentions showing in your windows explorer (or whatever)? 23.22.10 # yeah all that stuff is disabled 23.22.22 # i move files using dos anyway 23.22.27 # ah ok 23.22.28 # nm then 23.23.46 # how come the FAQ doesn't have an index? it looks like it'd be trivial to add, and would make it much more user-friendly 23.24.14 # basicly, it is because the questions are sooooo long 23.24.25 # the index turned out looking really weird 23.24.25 # so? heh 23.24.28 # heh 23.24.39 # but I agree we need one 23.25.11 # or possibly sections 23.25.27 # * adi|work has that on his list 23.30.31 # Now that there's a feature freeze for 2.0 is considered beta at this point? 23.30.45 # probably 23.31.04 # although we don't call it that 23.31.36 # I've been using 1.4 for a while are the daily builds pretty stable on a Studio 10? 23.31.55 # I believe they are 23.32.39 # I'm game to help test, but I need it to work for my own peice of mind when I'm out and about. :) I'll give it a try then. 23.33.00 # you can always save it on the side and ROLO it to start with 23.33.27 # in case you wanna play safe 23.33.32 # hmm I'll try that. 23.33.43 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA9C7F.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.34.14 # I've been really impressed with the project. My only regret is that I didn't get a recorder, because of the smaller text size. 23.34.43 # But of course it was almost double the price at the time, so I can't really complain. 23.36.06 # the recorder also has better sound 23.37.47 # Yeah, and USB2, but I'm still pretty happy. I'm having a hard enough time finding good head phones for the jukebox as it is. Finding good headphones that have a volume control is a pain. 23.54.37 Quit rocker92 ("*")