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01.57.59 #       <BoD[]> hi !
01.58.03 #       <LinusN> yo
01.58.49 #       <BoD[]> sava?
01.59.06 #       <LinusN> ca va bien merci, et toi?
01.59.10 #       <BoD[]> sava:)
01.59.53 #       <BoD[]> koid9?
02.00.03 #       <LinusN> ?
02.00.14 #       <BoD[]> :) means what's up
02.00.31 #       <LinusN> oh
02.00.48 #       <LinusN> well, killing bugs as usual
02.01.21 #       <BoD[]> no new features ?
02.01.32 #       <LinusN> feature freeze, remember?
02.01.40 #       <BoD[]> oh yeah right
02.01.46 #       <LinusN> 2.0 is very close
02.02.02 #       <BoD[]> too bad :) features are more fun than bugs
02.02.07 #       <LinusN> indeed
02.03.17 #       <BoD[]> but 2.0 needs to be oyt
02.03.18 #       <BoD[]> out
02.03.25 #       <BoD[]> too long time since last release
02.03.35 #       <LinusN> absolutely
02.08.39 #       <BoD[]> and what's up in your personal life ? :)
02.08.41 #       <BoD[]> if any
02.09.22 #       <LinusN> i am home for a couple of days, to see to the appartment
02.10.16 #       <BoD[]> the appartment?
02.10.32 #       <LinusN> where we normally live, i and sara
02.13.00 #       <BoD[]> me i lost my job today
02.14.05 #       <LinusN> ouch
02.14.57 #       <LinusN> what do/did you work with?
02.15.52 #       <BoD[]> i'm a java programmer :)
02.16.04 #       <BoD[]> I worked in the terminal emulation business
02.16.13 #       <LinusN> oh, that one :-)
02.16.27 #       <BoD[]> :))
02.16.34 #       <BoD[]> now i'm free
02.17.03 #       <LinusN> i, zagor and bagder had a talk today, and we have a cool project for you
02.18.08 #       <LinusN> we would like a Java applet for WPS config editing to put on the rockbox site
02.18.58 #       <BoD[]> well I have a lot of free time now :)))
02.19.12 #       <BoD[]> I can do that
02.20.40 #       <LinusN> that would be cool
02.20.59 #       <LinusN> a nice visual way of creating a wps screen
02.21.43 #       <BoD[]> ok
02.21.56 #       <BoD[]> :)
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02.29.38 #       <BoD[]> i'll look at it tomorrow
02.29.57 #       <LinusN> nice
02.30.11 #       <BoD[]> but now i go to bed :) see you, bye
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02.44.47 #       <Sparks> anyone alive in here!?
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02.46.52 #       <Sparks> I have got the FM Recorder, and I want the ability to switch to the origanal firmware without plugging the unit into my PC - i have read the FAQ, and it simply tells me to save the firmware file as a .ajz file, then "play" it - trouble is, i have done this, but cant seem to see it in the list!?!
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02.47.35 #       <LinusN> Sparks: you must set the File View option to "all"
02.47.55 #       <Sparks> Oh right!
02.48.09 #       <Sparks> (Might be a good idea the add that to the FAQ!
02.48.44 #       <LinusN> oh, isn't it mentioned?
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02.49.02 #       <Sparks> not in the rolo secition
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02.50.33 #       <Sparks> the only problem is now i can see all the files (.rockbox for example) this is not good :( - is there any chance of having a "music & firmware" option!
02.50.52 #       <LinusN> try "supported"
02.51.40 #       <Sparks> :)  thanks ;)
02.53.15 #       <Sparks> alos, on the FM, if the disk is spinning, when the backlight goes off, it just goes off, but if the disk is not spinning, it will fade out - is ths a fixable issue?
02.53.44 #       <LinusN> it should be, but it might be a hardware issue
02.54.01 #       <LinusN> i recall seeing this "feature" with the original firmware as well
02.54.26 #       <Sparks> ok, (havent used that is ages :P
02.54.48 #       <LinusN> please try to see if the fade is there with the original too
02.54.57 #       <Sparks> ok, i sec..
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02.55.24 #       <midknight2k3> Hello all
02.55.33 #       <Sparks> Evening!
02.55.41 #       <midknight2k3> I was just wondering about the battery meter on Rockbox
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02.56.00 #       <midknight2k3> Now, 1.4 says it's about 60% and dailybuilds say that it's 38%
02.56.04 #       <midknight2k3> Which is right?
02.56.08 #       <midknight2k3> 1.4, no?
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02.56.21 #       <midknight2k3> Now, 1.4 says it's about 60% and dailybuilds say that it's 38%
02.56.25 #       <midknight2k3> Which is right?
02.56.27 #       <midknight2k3> 1.4, no?
02.56.29 #       <LinusN> midknight2k3: you use the original batteries?
02.56.32 #       <midknight2k3> yes
02.56.47 #       <midknight2k3> i'm going to replace them very soon
02.56.49 #       <LinusN> the daily build is supposed to be more accurate
02.57.04 #       <midknight2k3> Archos seems to be closer to 1.4's meter
02.57.17 #       <midknight2k3> by 'archos' i mean, archos firmware
02.57.58 #       <LinusN> the daily builds have a different battery precentage algorithm
02.58.12 #       <midknight2k3> I knew something like that had to have happened
02.58.19 #       <LinusN> it trieas to calculate the remaining playtime left, rather than just the voltage
02.58.33 #       <midknight2k3> Ahhh
02.58.41 #       <LinusN> Sparks: FAQ updated
02.58.51 #       <Sparks> ok, there is the same "feature" with the origanal firmware with the backlight (if not worse!)
02.59.16 #       <LinusN> then we have slightly less hope of getting that fixed... :-(
02.59.30 #       <Sparks> ok, nevermind
02.59.42 #       <Sparks> did you update http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html ?
02.59.59 #       <LinusN> it will update itself in an hour or so
03.00.14 #       <Sparks> ah, ok, wonderd why i didnt see the change!
03.00.56 #       <Sparks> another thing... do you know of anyone eho has changed the backlight LED's yet?
03.01.38 #       <midknight2k3> Oh one more thing people - i know that Rockbox has a setting for the Battery MAH level right?
03.01.57 #       <LinusN> yes
03.02.08 #       <midknight2k3> So that fixes charging in Rockbox... but what if you just plug it in and it charges under the Archos-type charge thing
03.02.09 #       <LinusN> Sparks: not that i know of
03.02.19 #       <midknight2k3> will it hurt the archos?
03.02.26 #       <LinusN> midknight2k3: not at all
03.02.35 #       <Sparks> ok, looks like i will have to source them myself :P
03.02.35 #       <midknight2k3> good
03.02.48 #       <midknight2k3> now to find some good powerful batteries
03.02.50 #       <LinusN> the mAh setting is only for the percentage calculation
03.03.21 #       <midknight2k3> So if i had the 1500's and i put the setting on 2000 it would display wrong?
03.03.27 #       <LinusN> yes
03.03.42 #       <midknight2k3> okay
03.05.08 #       <midknight2k3> Do you think that the Archos could be disassembled to the point where best buy wouldn't notice in case it had to be returned in a month or a year or something?
03.05.16 #       <Sparks> another mAH question, I have the FM, this has a different battery (2200 mAh Li Ion) - do i set it to 2200?
03.05.40 #       <Sparks> or does it not make a differance with the FM?
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03.07.40 #       <LinusN> we haven't really calibrated the voltage curve of the LiIon battery, but you should set it to 2200
03.08.23 #       <midknight2k3> Linus, what model Archos do you use (or are ou associated with all of them)?
03.08.29 #       <Sparks> Ok, ta
03.09.29 #       <LinusN> i have a Player, a Recorder 20 and an FM Recorder
03.09.45 #       <midknight2k3> what batteries do you use in the recorder 20?
03.09.48 #       <LinusN> i mainly use the rec20
03.10.03 #       <LinusN> 1800mAh
03.10.24 #       <midknight2k3> Is there a good place online to get some powerful ones, like 2000 or so?
03.10.32 #       <LinusN> i dunno
03.10.35 #       <LinusN> probably
03.10.51 #       <midknight2k3> most i've seen at best buy is about 1850
03.11.02 #       <midknight2k3> which would work great but the biggest would be the best
03.12.58 #       <Sparks> LinusN, Have you taken your FM apart before?
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03.18.04 #       <LinusN> Sparks: yes
03.18.12 #       <LinusN> in small pieces
03.18.20 #       <LinusN> even took apart the radio
03.18.23 #       <Sparks> and did you find any warrenty seals?
03.18.27 #       <LinusN> nope
03.18.39 #       <Sparks> same here, though that was a tad odd
03.19.03 #       <midknight2k3> Speaking of which
03.19.09 #       <midknight2k3> ANy seals on the REcorder?
03.19.11 #       <midknight2k3> oops
03.19.18 #       <midknight2k3> hate those seconds capital letters
03.20.47 #       <midknight2k3> There's a lot of crap in between the plastic screen cover thing and the screen itself
03.21.04 #       <midknight2k3> wanted to clean it out but worried about voiding the warranty
03.21.30 #       <LinusN> midknight2k3: the recorder top cover can be opened without breaking the seals
03.22.05 #       <midknight2k3> so Best Buy wouldn't know?
03.22.10 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.22.17 #       <Sparks> so long you dont break it!
03.22.31 #       <midknight2k3> i know ver very careful operation
03.23.13 #       <Sparks> just make sure you take your time, use the correct tools (most important) and have plenty of light
03.23.49 #       <LinusN> and watch out for ESD
03.24.10 #       <Sparks> ESD is evil :P
03.24.52 #       <Sparks> anyway, gotta go - Thanks for the info LinusN!
03.24.57 #       <midknight2k3> be right back
03.25.16 #       <LinusN> Sparks: yw
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03.36.33 #       <midknight2k3> okay
03.36.37 #       <midknight2k3> so what ive got is this:
03.37.10 #       <midknight2k3> remove the top and bottom screws (not the sides)
03.37.20 #       <midknight2k3> take off cover and be careful not to touch anything
03.37.29 #       <midknight2k3> and clean the screen and replace cover
03.37.32 #       <midknight2k3> that's right?
03.38.43 #       <LinusN> yes
03.38.54 #       <midknight2k3> Thanks a bunch
03.38.58 #       <LinusN> yw
03.39.05 #       <LinusN> gotta sleep, goodnight
03.39.10 #       <midknight2k3> one sec
03.39.13 #       <LinusN> ok
03.39.18 #       <midknight2k3> have you ever disassembled a rioriot?
03.39.27 #       <midknight2k3> i doubt it but I keep searching
03.40.31 #       <LinusN> no, i haven't
03.40.40 #       <midknight2k3> oh well
03.40.43 #       <midknight2k3> see you goodnight
03.40.45 #       <LinusN> nite then
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03.46.20 #       <midknight2k3> can anyone see this msg?
03.46.26 #       <midknight2k3> n/m
03.58.18 #       <midknight2k3> i did it!
04.10.08 #       <midknight2k3> Anyone alive in here
04.10.09 #       <midknight2k3> ?
04.13.41 #       <midknight2k3> Please i have a question
04.14.02 #       <midknight2k3> What, under the latest dailybuild, is 'Bidirectional Scroll Limit'?
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04.45.12 #       <{SoBs-R}Stumpy> is anyone here?
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04.46.05 #       <midknight2k3> i am
04.46.20 #       <midknight2k3> you a rockbox 'crew member'?
04.46.52 #       <Bryant> no
04.47.01 #       <Bryant> i just come here every now and then and ask a couple questions
04.47.16 #       <Bryant> i was wondering if anyone here knows how to build a playlist?
04.47.17 #       <midknight2k3> i'm not either but if you have a question i might be able to answer it
04.47.19 #       <Bryant> on the recorder 20
04.47.25 #       <midknight2k3> Which version of rockbox?
04.47.34 #       <midknight2k3> dailybuild?
04.47.53 #       <midknight2k3> or with normal archos firwmare?
04.48.05 #       <Bryant> rockbox dailbuild
04.48.19 #       <midknight2k3> CRAP APPLES
04.48.28 #       <Bryant> i believe i have an april 3rd version
04.48.31 #       <Bryant> ?
04.48.31 #       <midknight2k3> i effed it up again
04.48.40 #       <Bryant> what?
04.48.42 #       <midknight2k3> stupid effin retard i am
04.49.04 #       <midknight2k3> took off the cover
04.49.09 #       <midknight2k3> now a button dont work
04.49.10 #       <midknight2k3> AGAIN.
04.49.39 #       <midknight2k3> if you wait like 5mins i can twll you how
04.50.13 #       <Bryant> haha ok
04.50.26 #       <midknight2k3>  gotta take it apart again
04.52.26 #       <midknight2k3> found the problem
04.54.01 #       <midknight2k3> ALL FIXED YAHHOO
04.56.09 #       <midknight2k3> hmm
04.56.29 #       <Bryant> ok
04.56.34 #       <Bryant> so how do you build a playlist?
04.56.43 #       <adam> create playlist in root
04.56.59 #       <Bryant> wait... when i say "create playlist" it creates the the root file
04.57.03 #       <Bryant> so what do i do now?
04.57.04 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
04.57.08 #       <adam> go to the playlist
04.57.12 #       <adam> it'll be root.m3u
04.57.13 #       <Bryant> go to root?
04.57.16 #       <Bryant> ok 
04.57.23 #       <midknight2k3> so you can only make a playlist out of the root file?
04.57.27 #       <adam> no.
04.57.31 #       <adam> but I do.
04.57.37 #       <adam> just 'create' playlist in your current directory
04.57.41 #       <adam> it's found in settings
04.57.46 #       <Bryant> ok done
04.57.46 #       <midknight2k3> yeah weird
04.57.54 #       <midknight2k3> so you cant take diff tracks from elsewhere?
04.58.03 #       <adam> uh
04.58.04 #       <midknight2k3> like one from root and two from a folder into one playlist?
04.58.04 #       <adam> no
04.58.06 #       <midknight2k3> rats
04.58.09 #       <midknight2k3> but ok
04.58.14 #       <adam> but you can shuffle.
04.58.16 #       <midknight2k3> are you a rockbox guy adam?
04.58.19 #       <adam> which is the main use of it.
04.58.20 #       <adam> no.
04.58.32 #       * adam just has seen this project from the early beginnings to the present
04.58.40 #       <midknight2k3> do you know what 'bidirectional scroll limit' is?
04.58.43 #       <adam> yes
04.58.48 #       <midknight2k3> what's it do?
04.58.49 #       <adam> your scroll goes back and forth
04.58.57 #       <adam> so you can adjust how much it does that
04.59.13 #       <midknight2k3> so what does 50% do as opposed to 200%?
04.59.26 #       <adam> scrolls more or less of the text
04.59.30 #       <adam> not really worth worrying about
04.59.39 #       <midknight2k3> hmm
04.59.43 #       <midknight2k3> so just leave it on 0?
04.59.50 #       <adam> uh, whatever
04.59.53 #       <adam> it's two way scroll
04.59.57 #       <adam> I like one way scroll
05.00.00 #       <adam> so 0 is good
05.00.00 #       <midknight2k3> but i wanna understand lol
05.00.16 #       <midknight2k3> so 0 makes it one way and 200 makes it two way
05.00.18 #       <midknight2k3> right?
05.00.21 #       <adam> no
05.00.27 #       <midknight2k3> opposite?
05.00.36 #       <adam> it goes two way if it's anything above one
05.00.45 #       <midknight2k3> oh tahnks lol
05.00.47 #       <adam> it's just how much it goes before turning back
05.01.24 #       <midknight2k3> i see
05.01.24 #       * adam wants archos to release the AV 140 like, now :P
05.01.26 #       <midknight2k3> it works
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05.01.40 #       <midknight2k3> that the one with the huge screen?
05.01.46 #       <adam> no
05.01.48 #       <adam> that's the 340
05.01.54 #       <adam> I prefer the standard build style
05.01.58 #       <adam> since I'll mainly use it for mp3s
05.01.58 #       <midknight2k3> hm
05.02.09 #       <adam> and a huge screen is way too vulnerable
05.02.12 #       <adam> especially a touch screen
05.02.31 #       <midknight2k3> yeah it's really
05.02.33 #       <midknight2k3> um
05.02.36 #       <midknight2k3> bulky?
05.02.39 #       <adam> naa
05.02.43 #       <adam> probably the same form factor
05.02.50 #       <midknight2k3> 340?
05.02.52 #       <midknight2k3> no way
05.02.56 #       <adam> the 340 isn't that much bigger
05.02.59 #       <midknight2k3> it's like a square fool lol
05.03.03 #       <midknight2k3> fool=foot
05.03.06 #       <adam> no it isn't
05.03.13 #       <midknight2k3> i know but it's big is all
05.03.14 #       <adam> it uses a 3 inch screen
05.03.45 #       <adam> 340 is stupid, anyways
05.03.56 #       <midknight2k3> hey!
05.03.59 #       <adam> I couldn't even watch a movie on a screen that size
05.04.03 #       <adam> I need the TV out
05.04.11 #       <midknight2k3> 3"?
05.04.18 #       <midknight2k3> When they have the MMJB with a 1.5"
05.04.31 #       <midknight2k3> I mean come on perhaps not a movie but it's watchable
05.04.43 #       <adam> uh
05.04.44 #       <midknight2k3> the 140 looks cooool
05.04.55 #       <adam> I'll more likely just get the 120
05.05.02 #       <adam> what I want is the higher resolution divx playback
05.05.04 #       <midknight2k3> what's that lol
05.05.10 #       <adam> 120 == 20 gig version
05.05.16 #       <adam> I know I can easily replace the drives, either way
05.06.00 #       <midknight2k3> the 140 is 40GB?
05.06.50 #       <adam> yes
05.07.03 #       <midknight2k3> 320 has big screen but is 20GB?
05.07.05 #       <midknight2k3> am i right there?
05.07.13 #       <adam> I don't know if they'll release a 320
05.07.22 #       <midknight2k3> they will
05.07.27 #       <midknight2k3> i think it's in 2004 tho
05.07.29 #       <adam> but yeah, that seems to be their stance
05.08.01 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.08.17 #       <midknight2k3> i hope best buy never finds out i popped the archos' cover off 3 times
05.08.28 #       <midknight2k3> my 3 year extended warranty is at stake
05.08.39 #       <adam> asides from the screen, I think the AV 120 is the best bet for cheap TV out
05.08.47 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.08.59 #       <adam> the normal one can do it, I suppose
05.09.09 #       <adam> but I find the resolution limit to be offensive
05.09.16 #       <midknight2k3> well i dunno you plannin to rip dvds?
05.09.20 #       <adam> no
05.09.25 #       <midknight2k3> ohkay
05.09.26 #       <adam> I don't want a video ripper module
05.09.28 #       <midknight2k3> sucks for that
05.09.33 #       <adam> I'll get one when I need one :P
05.09.43 #       <midknight2k3> the mmjb can do that
05.09.53 #       <midknight2k3> but its a real big pain getting it right
05.09.54 #       <adam> but yeah, the newer one can easily do much higher quality rips
05.10.00 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.10.10 #       <adam> since it uses the TI DSC25
05.10.14 #       <adam> as opposed to DSC21
05.10.20 #       <adam> just a faster video processor
05.10.57 #       <adam> as for the battery life, I've never found myself lacking access to an adapter to leave it on for a few hours
05.11.19 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.11.32 #       <midknight2k3> jesus crappers
05.11.41 #       <adam> ?
05.11.42 #       <midknight2k3> the archos has been plugged in for about half an hour
05.11.46 #       <midknight2k3> the battery isn't going up
05.11.53 #       <adam> which model?
05.11.56 #       <midknight2k3> I JUST KNOW THAT THE DAILYBUILDS HAVE BATTERY ISSUES!
05.11.59 #       <midknight2k3> recorder 20gb
05.12.08 #       <adam> I had a Recorder FM for awhile
05.12.28 #       <midknight2k3> i got an open box recorder and a 3 year warranty
05.12.30 #       <adam> Studio 20 for a few years
05.12.38 #       <midknight2k3> for the same price as a new one
05.12.50 #       <adam> yeah, you're taking a risk, though
05.12.59 #       <adam> but archos factory workers are muppets anyways
05.13.06 #       <adam> if there is something wrong, you'll notice quickly enough
05.13.17 #       <adam> whoever they hire to build these things sucks
05.13.18 #       <midknight2k3> but the best thing is:
05.13.19 #       <adam> really bad :P
05.13.39 #       <midknight2k3> i can get it replaced free for longer than a new one and i get free upgrades
05.13.46 #       <midknight2k3> if they have a new model out that is
05.13.55 #       <midknight2k3> i back it up regularaly so it's all good :)
05.14.09 #       <adam> well, why don't you trade it in for a Recorder FM?
05.14.31 #       <midknight2k3> well they only give it out when the recorder is obsolete or at least perhaps when it dies
05.14.36 #       <midknight2k3> im in no mood to kill it
05.14.38 #       <midknight2k3> i like it
05.14.46 #       * adam is just stuck with the archos style of controls
05.15.04 #       <adam> the recorder and multimedia style > *
05.15.06 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.15.09 #       <midknight2k3> like them
05.15.09 #       <adam> non-cludgy interface
05.15.10 #       <adam> clean
05.15.13 #       <midknight2k3> loo
05.15.15 #       <midknight2k3> LOL
05.15.24 #       <midknight2k3> like the RioRiot too
05.15.29 #       <adam> never had one
05.15.42 #       <midknight2k3> like it alot
05.16.12 #       <adam> well
05.16.24 #       <adam> I'm just irritated by the lack of archos action on the multimedia part
05.16.32 #       <adam> it's like, they held back their original multimedia for a year
05.16.40 #       <adam> just because they didn't feel that anyone was remotely ready for them :P
05.16.55 #       <midknight2k3> brb
05.16.59 #       <adam> I don't want to see that again
05.17.02 #       <midknight2k3> forgot to make the cornbread lol
05.17.04 #       <midknight2k3> dont leave
05.17.34 #       <adam> uh
05.20.46 #       <midknight2k3> im back
05.21.19 #       <midknight2k3> i can't wait to see how iriver's iHP thing goes
05.22.00 #       <adam> eh
05.22.44 #       * adam is really reluctant about trying anything outside of archos
05.22.47 #       <adam> I know these things mess up
05.22.53 #       <adam> and I know what to do in that circumstance :P
05.23.59 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.24.03 #       <midknight2k3> smash it to bits?
05.24.09 #       <adam> no, send it in
05.24.19 #       <midknight2k3> oh lol
05.24.23 #       <adam> they sent me a new studio 20 for my last one that had a broken LCD
05.24.35 #       <midknight2k3> yeah archos man...
05.24.48 #       <midknight2k3> they're the best in mp3 players
05.24.49 #       <adam> the LCD was literally shattered :P
05.24.52 #       <midknight2k3> well almost
05.25.02 #       <midknight2k3> how'd that happen?
05.25.04 #       <adam> well, for me it's compatibility
05.25.17 #       <adam> midknight - probably came in contact with a hard elbow
05.25.19 #       <adam> or weight
05.25.21 #       <adam> or something
05.25.30 #       <midknight2k3> i mean they're cheap and they're reliable and they're excellent about fixing stuff and keeping you ahppy
05.25.37 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.25.42 #       <adam> I wouldn't call them reliable
05.25.45 #       <adam> cheap, yeah
05.26.06 #       <adam> the nice thing is the whole hackability
05.26.12 #       <adam> you can't crack open iPods
05.26.15 #       <adam> or Zen players
05.26.19 #       <adam> or even replace their batteries :P
05.26.27 #       <midknight2k3> ipods are crackable
05.26.31 #       <midknight2k3> just not too easy to do
05.26.37 #       <adam> okay
05.26.38 #       <midknight2k3> you risk shattering it
05.26.41 #       <adam> most people wouldn't risk it
05.26.49 #       <midknight2k3> yeah tho archos is pretty reliable
05.26.58 #       <adam> uh
05.27.00 #       <midknight2k3> their support and all make them good
05.27.06 #       <adam> assuming yours wasn't made by a muppet
05.27.10 #       <midknight2k3> Lol
05.27.13 #       <adam> there are lots of defects
05.27.14 #       <midknight2k3> let me elaborate
05.27.18 #       <adam> and somehow, they manage to get past
05.27.19 #       <midknight2k3> ok here goes
05.27.46 #       <midknight2k3> their products are pretty good, but their support is pretty excellent so you get it fixed if it's broken making them reliable
05.28.17 #       <adam> heh
05.28.25 #       <midknight2k3> if your archos breaks...
05.28.31 #       <adam> currently, my most reliable thing is this ancient sony boombox I've had for 10 years
05.28.37 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.28.41 #       <adam> which I am currently listening to one of my ancient metallica CDs on
05.28.43 #       <midknight2k3> yeah they're pretty reliable too
05.28.48 #       <adam> on my new earbuds
05.28.51 #       <midknight2k3> ooh
05.28.55 #       <adam> since my studio 20 is in a state of disrepair
05.29.05 #       <midknight2k3> hey if your archos breaks tho
05.29.10 #       <midknight2k3> send it to them -->   http://www.rickandrak.com/fatkidtv_small.wmv
05.29.14 #       <midknight2k3> watch it
05.29.45 #       <midknight2k3> uless your on 56k
05.30.17 #       <adam> I eh
05.30.23 #       <adam> I've got either the U's broadband
05.30.25 #       <adam> or home cable
05.30.40 #       <adam> it's a matter if I've got the right program for it on this craptop
05.30.58 #       <midknight2k3> ouch
05.31.11 #       <midknight2k3> are you watching it?
05.31.18 #       <midknight2k3> cause if you're not, don't
05.31.27 #       <midknight2k3> well, go ahead
05.31.30 #       <midknight2k3> never mind
05.32.24 #       <adam> uh
05.32.38 #       <midknight2k3> yes?
05.33.40 #       <adam> what does this have to do with anything?
05.33.51 #       <midknight2k3> well they'd love donations
05.34.17 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.34.19 #       <midknight2k3> one more
05.34.20 #       <midknight2k3> http://negativepositive.org/rioburnlg.wmv
05.34.24 #       <midknight2k3> that one's best
05.36.36 #       <adam> heh
05.36.44 #       <adam> screw fucking 'wrestling moves' on monitors
05.36.54 #       <adam> I'll go get the marlin .45-70 guide gun
05.36.54 #       <adam> :P
05.36.58 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.37.06 #       <midknight2k3> you aint seen their worst lol
05.37.06 #       <adam> blow a hole 8 inches wide in it
05.37.18 #       <midknight2k3> that was nothin
05.37.33 #       <midknight2k3> what with private joe messing around
05.37.41 #       * adam can think of better things to waste bandwidth on
05.37.48 #       <midknight2k3> http://www.rickandrak.com/abobosmashouttakes.wmv
05.37.51 #       <midknight2k3> NO
05.38.02 #       <midknight2k3> small one
05.38.04 #       <midknight2k3> http://www.rickandrak.com/monstermonitordrop.mpg
05.38.09 #       <midknight2k3> thumbs up eayh
05.40.15 #       <adam> hmm
05.40.59 #       <midknight2k3> one more teeeeeeeeeeny video and thats it ok?
05.41.03 #       <midknight2k3> http://www.rickandrak.com/ghostpoo.mpg
05.41.04 #       <adam> uh. No.
05.41.11 #       <midknight2k3> but it's smalll
05.41.14 #       * adam is more concerned with the new Archos releases
05.41.15 #       <midknight2k3> 3.1mb it's funny
05.41.18 #       <midknight2k3> LOL
05.41.24 #       <adam> I've seen enough crap in my lifetime
05.41.49 #       * midknight2k3 thinks adam is a fruitcup that's too busy with archos this and archos that to enjoy some poop all over the bathroom floor.
05.42.14 #       <adam> and if it's mpg and wmv, that doesn't make me want to see it anymore...
05.42.33 #       * adam contemplates some Evangelion
05.42.38 #       <adam> screw 'poop' on the floor
05.43.03 #       * adam goes the whole 9 yards to madness
05.43.21 #       * midknight2k3 says, "poop!"
05.43.38 #       <midknight2k3> watch it lol
05.43.40 #       <midknight2k3> just once
05.44.28 #       * adam notes he doesn't want his cousin and her kids to move in with him
05.44.35 #       <adam> even temporarily.
05.44.37 #       <adam> Hate kids.
05.44.41 #       <adam> Kids must die.
05.45.02 #       <midknight2k3> you want me dead?
05.45.10 #       <adam> how old are you?
05.45.17 #       <midknight2k3> not necesarily a kid
05.45.18 #       <midknight2k3> 13
05.45.21 #       <adam> uh
05.45.27 #       <midknight2k3> haahahha
05.45.31 #       * adam is 19
05.45.34 #       <midknight2k3> the inevitable 'uh'
05.45.41 #       * midknight2k3 is...
05.45.46 #       * midknight2k3 is smart.
05.45.53 #       <adam> I started IRC'ing when I was about 13
05.46.03 #       <adam> then I just stopped for several years
05.46.21 #       <midknight2k3> well i got to go
05.46.24 #       <midknight2k3> at least for a little
05.46.27 #       <adam> ?
05.46.45 #       <adam> Your 'mommy' is making you watch the Land before time 2 again?
05.46.50 #       <midknight2k3> no
05.46.53 #       <adam> heh
05.46.54 #       <adam> phew.
05.47.04 #       <midknight2k3> i think i have that movie tho lol
05.47.09 #       <midknight2k3> i got it when i was like 8
05.47.19 #       * adam has anime
05.47.22 #       <midknight2k3> anyways see you later,, or something
05.47.26 #       <adam> but even that's borrowed :p
05.47.32 #       <midknight2k3> Hm..
05.47.34 #       <adam> Boondock Saints is like the only movie I own
05.47.37 #       <midknight2k3> 'phat.... G dog'
05.47.39 #       <adam> but that's because it's good.
05.47.43 #       <adam> later
05.47.47 #       <midknight2k3> okay
05.47.50 #       <midknight2k3> hahahahah
05.47.53 #       <midknight2k3> you die now
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17.16.41 #       <LinusN> i just did the most amazing thing
17.17.11 #       <LinusN> i upgraded my redhat7.2 to 8.0 using the 'upgrade' feature on the install CD
17.17.16 #       <LinusN> and it WORKED!!!
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18.55.52 #       <Guest> HI all, just picked up a Archos FM recorder and was wondering where I could find appropriate Roxbox software for it.
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19.04.14 #       <LinusN> just download the latest daily build for the fm recorder
19.05.06 #       <LinusN> just remember that we haven't made any drivers for the fm radio yet
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19.19.07 #       <Guest> 1thanks
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19.34.33 #       <tracktheripper> Hi
19.35.16 #       <tracktheripper> Hi LinusN and DJBaz :-)
19.35.37 #       <DJBaz> hey tracktheripper
19.35.54 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
19.36.17 #       <tracktheripper> I just had an email from Sourceforge "Jukebox crashes after losing in the Tetris game" - Works For Me 
19.37.09 #       <tracktheripper> Linus Whats that website again for that MP3 mixer u was on about yesterday?
19.37.32 #       <DJBaz> oo
19.37.35 #       <DJBaz> mixmeister?
19.37.45 #       <tracktheripper> yea thats the one
19.37.52 #       <tracktheripper> Is there a trial version?
19.37.58 #       <DJBaz> http://veillard.com/photos/rufus-003.jpg
19.38.04 #       <DJBaz> wrong copy and paste lol
19.38.09 #       <DJBaz> http://www.mixmeister.com/
19.38.09 #       <tracktheripper> :P
19.38.15 #       <tracktheripper> cheers :-)
19.38.18 #       <DJBaz> np
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19.43.08 #       <tracktheripper> wb DJBAz
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19.43.25 #       <DJBaz> cheers tracktheripper
19.43.42 #       <tracktheripper> :D
19.43.53 #       <tracktheripper> Im downloading MixMeister 4 Pro (trial version)
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19.45.06 #       <tracktheripper> DJBaz do you sometimes have trouble with people hogging the bandwidth?
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19.46.10 #       <DJBaz> not really
19.46.13 #       <DJBaz> im on dialup
19.46.23 #       <DJBaz> adsl mite be in my area nxt month :)
19.46.30 #       <DJBaz> i had cable before i moved though :(
19.46.36 #       <tracktheripper> same here
19.47.00 #       <tracktheripper> The only prob wiv broadband is that you get idiots using all the bandwidth to use P2P programs like Kaazaa
19.47.13 #       <DJBaz> yeh
19.47.17 #       <tracktheripper> and they send gigabytes and gigabytes of data, not just the odd file
19.47.26 #       <DJBaz> but the uk broadband companys mainly blueyonder/bt can cope
19.47.54 #       <DJBaz> i dont use kazza etc anyway
19.48.02 #       <DJBaz> i just want broadband cause i use linux
19.48.05 #       <tracktheripper> A mate of mine said BT Openworld kicked off 30,000 of its customers for excessive use of bandwidth for P2P sharing
19.48.16 #       <DJBaz> good
19.48.22 #       <tracktheripper> lol
19.48.22 #       <DJBaz> but i doubt that
19.49.06 #       <tracktheripper> because wiv normal ADSL connections the bandwidth is usually shared with 50 other people
19.49.32 #       <DJBaz> yup
19.50.07 #       <tracktheripper> and if all 50 of those is using Kazaa the bandwidth is gonna get used up fast
19.50.13 #       <DJBaz> i want a 512k adsl
19.50.24 #       <DJBaz> i had 512k cable before and im happy with it
19.50.34 #       <DJBaz> 60k/sec downloads is fast enough for me
19.50.40 #       <tracktheripper> 512 is the usual speed broadband providors offer
19.50.44 #       <DJBaz> yeh
19.50.45 #       <tracktheripper> So why are u switching from cable to ADSL?
19.50.50 #       <DJBaz> i moved house
19.50.57 #       <DJBaz> i had cable in my old house
19.51.10 #       <tracktheripper> What was cable broadband like?
19.51.10 #       <tracktheripper> compared to ADSL broadband?
19.51.15 #       <DJBaz> but my new house 'just been built' doesnt have cable or a bt openworld enabled exchane
19.51.28 #       <DJBaz> same download speed but different hardware
19.51.35 #       <tracktheripper> ohh
19.51.35 #       <DJBaz> but cable can go faster
19.51.40 #       <tracktheripper> oh right
19.51.56 #       <DJBaz> in the uk we can only get a max of 1meg cable/adsl at the moment
19.52.07 #       <DJBaz> the uk is slow for broadband and its pretty expensive 2
19.52.19 #       <DJBaz> $50 a month for 512k broadband
19.52.28 #       <LinusN> we can get 2mbit/s and even 8mbit/s in Sweden
19.52.34 #       <DJBaz> but in america ya can get it for $15
19.52.39 #       <tracktheripper> I was reading a broadband review website and someone said "The people who complain about poor connections with ADSL seem to forget that a 100Mhz signal is sent through a rusty junction box on top of a telegraph pole"
19.52.40 #       <DJBaz> nice
19.52.52 #       <tracktheripper> "so how can the signal be perfect?"
19.53.02 #       <DJBaz> fix the telegraph poles?
19.53.15 #       <DJBaz> lol
19.53.18 #       <DJBaz> get satelite?
19.53.33 #       <tracktheripper> :D
19.53.42 #       <DJBaz> cmon
19.53.50 #       <DJBaz> its taking ages to install mandrake 9.1 on a 233
19.54.11 #       <Jet8810> yuck
19.54.12 #       <Jet8810> mandrake?
19.54.13 #       <LinusN> i did the most crazy thing today
19.54.14 #       <tracktheripper> I want a 64Mb leased line
19.54.14 #       <tracktheripper> :D
19.54.19 #       <DJBaz> yep
19.54.22 #       <Jet8810> whgat is that Lnux?
19.54.24 #       <Jet8810> err
19.54.25 #       <Jet8810> Linus
19.54.38 #       <tracktheripper> what Liunus?
19.54.47 #       <Jet8810> heh
19.54.51 #       <LinusN> i upgraded my redhat installation from 7.2 to 8.0 using the 'upgrade' option on the installation CD
19.54.59 #       <DJBaz> yeh u said :>
19.55.02 #       <Jet8810> wow!
19.55.03 #       <Jet8810> :)
19.55.04 #       <LinusN> and it WORKED!!!!
19.55.05 #       <Jet8810> hmm
19.55.10 #       <tracktheripper> apparantely the best Linus is "Red Hat" or "Suse"
19.55.11 #       * LinusN is truly amazed
19.55.14 #       <Jet8810> I have windows XP installed and using the entire 80gb partition now
19.55.29 #       <DJBaz> heh
19.55.30 #       <Jet8810> if I resize partition using say, partition magic, then install redhat will I be dual booting just fine?
19.55.37 #       <Jet8810> or must I do it redhat, then reinstall windows again?
19.55.44 #       <tracktheripper> I was thinking of getting the "Red Hat" version of Linus
19.55.46 #       <DJBaz> i have a 80 gig hard drive the now, got linux installed on 76gig of it
19.55.51 #       <DJBaz> the other 3 gig is for xp
19.55.55 #       <Jet8810> haha
19.55.55 #       <LinusN> i have win2k, win98 abd linux
19.55.57 #       <DJBaz> but ive only booted into xp once
19.56.00 #       <Jet8810> but does the order which you install matter?
19.56.09 #       <LinusN> i use the win2k boot loader
19.56.10 #       <Jet8810> will redhat overwrite my boot record and fuck it up?
19.56.10 #       <DJBaz> not if ur good Jet8810 :P
19.56.15 #       <LinusN> i installed linux last
19.56.20 #       <DJBaz> LinusN: i use the lilo boot loader
19.56.21 #       <Jet8810> alright
19.56.25 #       <tracktheripper> Does Windows proggys work on Linus?
19.56.33 #       <MT> i dunno
19.56.33 #       <DJBaz> sort of
19.56.37 #       <LinusN> actually, i use win2k, which in turn loads lilo...
19.56.40 #       <MT> Linus: do windows programs work on you
19.56.51 #       <DJBaz> u either need wine or another app like win4lin
19.56.59 #       <DJBaz> wine opens some apps with no microsoft software
19.57.02 #       <MT> (pointing out the difference between 'x' and 's')
19.57.09 #       <LinusN> MT: some may do, with Wine
19.57.12 #       <DJBaz> wine4lin lets ya install windows on linux and run it in a window
19.57.17 #       <DJBaz> same as vmware
19.57.24 #       <tracktheripper> you didnt answer me.
19.57.36 #       <LinusN> no, they don't work on me
19.57.38 #       <tracktheripper> Will All WINDOWS programs run on LINUS?
19.57.56 #       <DJBaz> tracktheripper: yes if u use win4lin or vmware
19.58.03 #       <DJBaz> if u use WINE some apps work
19.58.03 #       <tracktheripper> oh soz. spelling error
19.58.07 #       <tracktheripper> Will All WINDOWS programs run on LINUX?
19.58.09 #       <tracktheripper> :
19.58.19 #       <DJBaz> or if u use WINEX ya can run most directx games in linux :)
19.58.35 #       <tracktheripper> red, white or rose DJBaz?
19.58.35 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
19.58.36 #       <DJBaz> but i play quake 3 which has been ported to linux by the folk who programmed quake 3 :)
19.58.43 #       <DJBaz> lol tracktheripper
19.58.52 #       <DJBaz> tracktheripper:  goto: www.winehq.com
19.58.56 #       <DJBaz> for more info :p
19.58.58 #       <tracktheripper> prefer red wine myself
19.58.58 #       <tracktheripper> :D
19.59.06 #       <DJBaz> i aint tried red, only white
19.59.12 #       <tracktheripper> :D
19.59.18 #       <tracktheripper> wheres moody Adimas?
19.59.22 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
19.59.29 #       <DJBaz> no idea :p
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19.59.36 #       <Jet8810> heh
19.59.42 #       <Jet8810> alright
19.59.47 #       <Jet8810> now, redhat or suse?
19.59.49 #       <Jet8810> thats the question :)
19.59.56 #       <DJBaz> redhat for server
20.00.01 #       <DJBaz> suse... never used suse
20.00.06 #       <LinusN> why not debian?
20.00.10 #       <Jet8810> heh
20.00.15 #       <Jet8810> I dunno
20.00.18 #       <Jet8810> tried mandrake hated it
20.00.19 #       <DJBaz> debian is a power user OS
20.00.22 #       <Jet8810> gentoo seems to complex for now
20.00.25 #       <DJBaz> i use that on my lappy
20.00.27 #       <Jet8810> not sure where debian stands
20.00.49 #       <DJBaz> debian isnt widely known but it has a good installer standard that everyone in linux knows
20.00.56 #       <Dragonfly1600> Umm.. I have a problem... I downloaded a .mod file off of the rockbox site... I turned my player on and it won't turn on.. and i can't even turn it on to replace the .mod file..
20.00.56 #       <DJBaz> but i use mandrake cause im a noob :p
20.01.14 #       <DJBaz> god i need a shave
20.01.19 #       <LinusN> Dragonfly1600: what does the display say?
20.02.11 #       <Dragonfly1600> umm.. right now, it says Jukebox Wait.. and a flashing #
20.02.20 #       <Dragonfly1600> now it just said File sys. Error
20.02.29 #       <DJBaz> whats wrong Dragon?
20.02.50 #       <DJBaz> brb, gonna check on ma server
20.03.13 #       <Jet8810> dragonfly, delete the .mod file then
20.03.13 #       <Jet8810> ;)
20.03.45 #       <Dragonfly1600> when i hook the usb cable up to it, it doesn't work..
20.04.38 #       <Jet8810> dragonfly, try plugging it in for a little
20.04.41 #       <Jet8810> maybe batteries are dead
20.05.07 #       <Dragonfly1600> nope.. i had the adapter plugged in
20.05.13 #       <LinusN> http://rockbox.haxx.se/lock.html
20.05.51 #       <LinusN> does the disk spin up?
20.06.09 #       <Dragonfly1600> it tries to
20.06.20 #       <LinusN> tries?
20.07.04 #       <Dragonfly1600> well it does but then stops
20.07.15 #       <LinusN> sounds like a battery problem
20.07.59 #       <Dragonfly1600> how can it be a battery problem when i have the adapter plugged into it?
20.08.18 #       <LinusN> the adapter can't power the unit by itself
20.08.36 #       <LinusN> it needs the batteries for the extra "push" to spin up the drive
20.08.52 #       <Dragonfly1600> the icon on my system tray comes up when i hook the usb cable up, but theres an x over it
20.09.03 #       <Dragonfly1600> hmm.. should i let it charge for a while then?
20.09.08 #       <MT> charge it up
20.09.20 #       <LinusN> maybe, but you might have a broken battery as well
20.10.04 #       <Dragonfly1600> i was just using it about 5 minutes ago.. before i changed the .mod file, and i had about half battery power left
20.11.38 #       <Dragonfly1600> so...?
20.12.41 #       <LinusN> so try another set of batteries, or recharge
20.13.00 #       <LinusN> just take out the batteries and reinsert them
20.13.04 #       <Dragonfly1600> hmm.. i just tried to start it again, and it doesn't spin
20.13.06 #       <Dragonfly1600> ok
20.13.18 #       <LinusN> if the drive doesn't manage to spin up, it can't really be a software problem
20.13.41 #       <Dragonfly1600> ok cool
20.14.01 #       <LinusN> i had the same problem myself once
20.14.10 #       <LinusN> it turned out to be a bad battery
20.15.02 #       <Dragonfly1600> it seems weird that it would just happen after i replaced the .mod though
20.15.10 #       <LinusN> indeed
20.17.08 #       <Dragonfly1600> i just tested the batteries (battery tester), and all are registering around a 75% charge
20.17.35 #       <MT> well the .mod cant affect the drive spinning up
20.17.37 #       <LinusN> bad batteries may still show a good voltage, but may not deliver enough current anyway
20.18.05 #       <Dragonfly1600> ok, so hopefully i can just charge it, and it'll turn on later?
20.18.52 #       <LinusN> maybe, if you don't have to replace the batteries
20.19.56 #       <Dragonfly1600> hmm.. ok, should i try replacing them now?
20.20.16 #       <LinusN> sure
20.20.22 #       <MT> if you have a spare set
20.21.14 #       <Dragonfly1600> i do, but it's not the same kind that the origionals are.. it that ok?
20.21.48 #       <LinusN> as long as they are nimh and all of the same capacity
20.21.59 #       <MT> i have fm recorder, so no idea :)
20.22.13 #       <MT> when my batteries die, i have to buy a new unit
20.22.14 #       <MT> heh
20.22.17 #       <LinusN> MT: yeah, that has a high suckfactor
20.22.36 #       <Dragonfly1600> hmm..
20.23.16 #       <MT> LinusN: I'd probably buy a new one, switch the battery out and get it RMA'ed
20.23.21 #       <MT> then give it to a friend
20.23.22 #       <MT> heh
20.23.33 #       <Dragonfly1600> rma'ed?
20.23.51 #       <MT> erm
20.24.00 #       <MT> i wish i could remember what it stood for
20.24.07 #       <MT> returned to manufacturor
20.24.35 #       <Dragonfly1600> haha
20.24.46 #       <LinusN> Return Merchandise on Account
20.24.53 #       <LinusN> or something
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20.30.11 #       <tracktheripper> :D
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20.59.32 #       <LinusN|away> give me a better name for the VBR fix feature in the ON+Play menu, now it is "VBRFix"
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21.00.19 #       <tracktheripper> Linus call it "VBR Repairer
21.00.45 #       <LinusN> "repair VBR file", yeah why not?
21.01.08 #       <tracktheripper> or call it "Auto VBR Repair mode"
21.01.14 #       <LinusN> :-)
21.01.39 #       <LinusN> "update VBR file"...?
21.01.53 #       <LinusN> i mean, it isn't necessarily broken
21.02.02 #       <tracktheripper> HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
21.02.22 #       <tracktheripper> Call it "Auto UPdate VBR Header Mode"
21.02.22 #       <tracktheripper> :D
21.02.42 #       <LinusN> hmm, must use a smaller font then :-)
21.02.49 #       <tracktheripper> or just call it "Adimas" :-)
21.03.56 #       <tracktheripper> A ctually call it "Choose This Option To Update the Xing Header In VBR Files So They Work Properly On The Archos Jukebox c/o Bjorn And Co Of The Rockbox Project" :-)
21.06.46 #       <LinusN> We can just abbreviate it if it feels long, CTOTUTXIVFSTWPOTAJCBACOTRP
21.07.27 #       <tracktheripper> erm, you could always scroll it :-)
21.10.04 #       <TBoy> or header fix
21.10.13 #       <TBoy> ad Xing header
21.10.19 #       <TBoy> add Xing header
21.13.05 #       <tracktheripper> Just call it "Update VBR file"
21.13.09 #       <tracktheripper> short and sweet
21.15.50 #       <LinusN> "Update VBR file" it is
21.16.03 #       <tracktheripper> yay!!!!!!!!!!!
21.16.45 #       <LinusN> "Add Xing header" is nice, but i guess not all people know about Xing headers
21.16.46 #       <tracktheripper> something that hasnt been rejected! :-) :-) :-)
21.16.50 #       <tracktheripper> yea
21.17.17 #       <LinusN> i guess not all people know that the recorded files are VBR either, but what the heck
21.17.49 #       <tracktheripper> lol
21.18.06 #       <tracktheripper> true Zagor :-)
21.21.26 #       <tracktheripper> sorry Linus
21.22.53 #       <tracktheripper> Im thinking of getting a Creative Labs Nomad Zen
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21.34.18 #       <langhaarrocker> Hi LinusN!
21.34.41 #       <langhaarrocker> I had a bug that might interest you with mp3fix
21.36.21 #       <LinusN> ok
21.36.37 #       <langhaarrocker> (vbrfix, of course):
21.36.38 #       <langhaarrocker> It seems to scan all the file (99%) and then I get a I09:CPUAdrEr at 09014200
21.36.51 #       <LinusN> can you put up the file for analysis?
21.37.12 #       <LinusN> is it a recorded file?
21.37.20 #       <langhaarrocker> I'll put some file somewhere within 20 minutes.
21.37.33 #       <langhaarrocker> The file was recorded with rockbox via digital in
21.37.54 #       <LinusN> ok
21.37.57 #       <langhaarrocker> btw: while recording the audio was heavily distorted in the headphones, but the recording was ok
21.39.08 #       <langhaarrocker> And I my dat recorder still seems to get garbage on track changes via spdif which makes it resynchronize -> takes some time -> some audio is dropped.
21.39.08 #       <LinusN> ok
21.39.38 #       <LinusN> strange
21.40.19 #       <langhaarrocker> can that be due to invalid id3 tags?
21.40.28 #       <LinusN> beats me
21.40.49 #       <LinusN> all track changes or just some?
21.41.11 #       <langhaarrocker> I haven't investigated very thoroughly.
21.41.20 #       <LinusN> please do
21.41.24 #       <langhaarrocker> yes
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21.41.39 #       <[rabble]> 'ello there, all..
21.42.08 #       <langhaarrocker> hi
21.42.29 #       <[rabble]> I've got a quick question, if nobody minds....
21.43.13 #       <langhaarrocker> prepare to get answers :)
21.43.17 #       <[rabble]> I'm upgrading the HDD in my Archos, and I found a hard drive w/ a 16MB cache..... will that help me save on power consumption/disk life, and will it work?
21.43.27 #       <[rabble]> I'll past the stats for the drive, just a sec..
21.43.30 #       <LinusN> no saving
21.43.43 #       <LinusN> the 16meg won't buy you battery time
21.44.01 #       <[rabble]> will it help ANYTHING?
21.44.02 #       <[rabble]> TOSHIBA NOTEBOOK 40GB 5400RPM Model# HDD2171/MK4019GAX - OEM, DRIVE ONLY
21.44.03 #       <[rabble]> Specifications:
21.44.03 DBUG    Enqueued KICK [rabble]
21.44.03 #       <[rabble]> Form: 2.5 Inch 9.5mm Height
21.44.03 #       <[rabble]> Designed for Notebooks, and other small devices,
21.44.03 ***     Alert Mode level 1
21.44.03 #       <[rabble]> Size: 40 Gigabytes
21.44.05 #       <[rabble]> Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA-5
21.44.06 #       <[rabble]> Seek time: 12ms
21.44.08 #       <[rabble]> Data Transfer Rate: 100mb/sec
21.44.10 #       <[rabble]> RPM:5400
21.44.12 #       <[rabble]> Cache 16MB
21.44.14 #       <[rabble]> OEM(Drive alone) 1 Year Manufacturer Warranty: Model#: HDD2171/MK4019GAX
21.45.10 #       <langhaarrocker> It will give you 40 gb.
21.45.16 #       <[rabble]> hehe...that's about it, huh?
21.45.43 #       <[rabble]> The rest is just flashiness as far as the Archos is concerned?
21.45.51 #       <langhaarrocker> The drive it shut down whenever possible -> cache contents lost.
21.46.10 #       <[rabble]> So anything over 2MB of cache is just a waste?
21.46.31 #       <LinusN> [rabble]: the cache has nothing to do with it
21.46.57 #       <[rabble]> does the Archos have on-board RAM?
21.47.12 #       <langhaarrocker> (I was talking about drive cache) The ram size of the archos is what matters
21.47.14 #       <LinusN> of course
21.47.20 #       <[rabble]> Ah, i see..
21.47.33 #       <[rabble]> I figured it used the hard drive cache for "RAM"
21.47.36 #       <LinusN> show us the electrical specs
21.47.44 #       <[rabble]> probably a silly assumption
21.48.08 #       <langhaarrocker> There's a very fiddly 8MB mod for the jukeboxes, but it saves only 30% time -> not really worth the effort.
21.48.24 #       <[rabble]> Ok, one more question and I'll leave ya'll alone..
21.48.54 #       <[rabble]> What exactly is the technical name for the 2.5" to 3.5" HDD adapter (I can't for the life of me find one on newegg.com)
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21.49.43 #       <LinusN> i dunno
21.50.17 #       <[rabble]> Ok, how about a different way of putting that... What's a reputable online store that sells both laptop HDD's and would possibly have that adapter?
21.50.21 #       <[rabble]> in the US?
21.53.13 #       <[rabble]> any ideas?
21.53.18 #       <langhaarrocker> I'm from Germany
21.53.23 #       <LinusN> i live in Sweden
21.53.50 #       <[rabble]> hehe..
21.53.54 #       <[rabble]> agh.
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21.54.08 #       <[rabble]> well, thanks anyhoo..
21.54.22 #       <langhaarrocker> Linus: it seems that the vbrfix doesn't happen unless I generated id3 tags with the pc first.
21.54.26 #       <[rabble]> Ya'll have been a ton of help, thanks again....
21.54.31 #       <[rabble]> I'll get outta the way now..
21.54.33 #       <LinusN> langhaarrocker: aha
21.54.33 #       <langhaarrocker> vbrfix bug
21.54.36 #       <[rabble]> werd.
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21.55.46 #       <LinusN> in that case i only need the first 100k or so
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22.04.08 #       <LinusN> midknight2k3: i saw you asking about the bidir scroll limit
22.04.22 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
22.04.30 #       <LinusN> you got the wrong answer
22.04.34 #       <midknight2k3> oh?
22.04.43 #       <midknight2k3> i couldn't figure it out really but i got the idea
22.05.01 #       <midknight2k3> what is it exactly?
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22.05.41 #       <LinusN> the bidir scroll limit is how long the text can be before it starts the wrapping scroll instead
22.06.17 #       <midknight2k3> so then the
22.06.33 #       <midknight2k3> wrapping scroll is when it goes continuously?
22.06.51 #       <LinusN> if you set it to 10%, if the text is up to 10% wider than the screen, it will use a bidir scroll
22.07.01 #       <midknight2k3> oh!
22.07.09 #       <midknight2k3> i get it now
22.08.18 #       <midknight2k3> the front cover disassembly went well ;)
22.08.54 #       <LinusN> saw that
22.09.08 #       <midknight2k3> but i put the button back wrong
22.09.19 #       <midknight2k3> then when i fixed it
22.09.25 #       <midknight2k3> another one got messed up lol
22.09.34 #       <LinusN> :-)
22.10.20 #       <midknight2k3> but it worked out in the end
22.10.34 #       <midknight2k3> have you ever attempted to replace the green leds?
22.11.16 #       <midknight2k3> looks like it wouldnt be too hard
22.12.14 #       <LinusN> no, i haven't, i am quite satisfied with them as they are :-)
22.13.28 #       <langhaarrocker> LinusN: you probably don't rockbox on Windows machines, do you?
22.15.48 #       <LinusN> occasionally
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22.17.59 #       <midknight2k3> i have viruses
22.18.02 #       <midknight2k3> rats
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22.19.07 #       <langhaarrocker> Quick! Someone kick midknight2k3 before he infects us all!
22.19.09 #       <langhaarrocker> :)
22.19.33 #       <midknight2k3> my kazaa stuff is being infected!
22.19.44 #       <midknight2k3> no! my window washer! aaah!
22.20.11 #       <midknight2k3> wait
22.20.16 #       <midknight2k3> did you say, 'kick' me?
22.20.18 #       <midknight2k3> you're mean.
22.20.34 #       <langhaarrocker> :)
22.20.59 #       <midknight2k3> HOW dare you smile.
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22.23.16 #       * langhaarrocker chuckles malicously while tendering a white fluffy cat
22.25.37 #       <midknight2k3> i don't EVEN wanna know what that means.
22.26.55 #       <langhaarrocker> The bad I-Want-To-Rule-The-World guys always tender white fluffy cats while laughing and doing really mean things.
22.27.06 #       <midknight2k3> so you ARE mean.
22.27.22 #       <langhaarrocker> I think that was invented in a bond movie.
22.28.19 #       <midknight2k3> crap
22.28.26 #       <midknight2k3> wanna see my virus problem?
22.28.35 #       <midknight2k3> cause i have a good jpeg of it lol
22.28.55 #       * langhaarrocker is scared of infections
22.29.02 #       <midknight2k3> it's just a picture
22.29.09 #       <midknight2k3> its harmless
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22.32.45 #       <midknight2k3> freaky huh
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22.41.52 #       <langhaarrocker> Linus: Sample that causes error: http://x-phobie.virtualave.net/Cohkka.mp3.wav
22.42.24 #       <langhaarrocker> Please tell me, when you downloaded that, so that I can free the space.
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22.43.25 #       <LinusN> langhaarrocker: done
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22.45.21 #       <BoD[]> hi !
22.45.32 #       <langhaarrocker> lo
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22.48.23 #       * baz_ is away: starting kde
22.48.30 #       <LinusN> langhaarrocker: do you have a suggestion for a better name than "VBRFix"?
22.48.48 #       <LinusN> "Update VBR file" is the best so far
22.49.18 #       <langhaarrocker> It can generate id3 tags, too, doesn't it?
22.49.42 #       <LinusN> it will generate an empty tag if necessary
22.50.45 #       <LinusN> gotta reboot, hang on
22.50.47 #       <langhaarrocker> Does it touch CBR files? (probably - how should it know it's cbr)
22.50.47 Part    LinusN
22.50.57 #       <langhaarrocker> hm. that was void.
22.52.44 #       * baz_ is back (gone 00:04:21)
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22.54.33 #       <langhaarrocker> mobile phone empty? :)
22.55.10 #       <LinusN> no, hung usb-storage module
22.55.44 #       <langhaarrocker> sorry. stupid trillian.
22.57.41 #       <langhaarrocker> Linus: I cut the mp3 with the windows program mp3directcut (http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~pesch/mp3DirectCut.zip). That reported 'Sync errors'  which means it didn't find frame headers for some data. 
22.58.19 #       <LinusN> even after you added the id3 tag?
22.58.43 #       <langhaarrocker> I first cut, then added id3 tag (with MPTagger)
22.59.02 #       <LinusN> langhaarrocker: did you try the very latest build?
22.59.08 #       <langhaarrocker> yes
22.59.23 #       <LinusN> that one should create an empty id3 tag
22.59.27 #       <langhaarrocker> But the recordings were done with the daily build of friday
22.59.38 #       <LinusN> that was what i meant
23.00.05 #       <LinusN> try the very latest and see if the editor still complains
23.00.51 #       <langhaarrocker> The sequence was recording -> mpdirectcut -> mpTagger -> vbrfix. Maybe the mpTagger did bad things.
23.01.39 #       <langhaarrocker> I used the current bleeding edge build, when vbrfix crashed.
23.01.46 #       <LinusN> no, but directcut removed the space i added for id3 tagging
23.02.05 #       <LinusN> but now i create an empty id3 tag instead of just 0's
23.02.16 #       <langhaarrocker> ah
23.04.04 #       <langhaarrocker> You copy the file to insert the id3 tag? No mean magic meddling with the fat?
23.04.29 #       <BoD[]> by the way linusn : i've been working a bit on that applet WPS "designer" today :)
23.04.50 #       <langhaarrocker> BoD: good idea!
23.05.03 #       <BoD[]> :)
23.05.16 #       <LinusN> BoD[]: nice
23.06.18 #       <BoD[]> there should be something usable in the next few days
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23.08.11 #       <langhaarrocker> LinusN: The excerpt that I made you download was a snippet from the middle of the original recording.  -> There was no id3 tag for mp3directcut to remove.
23.09.28 Quit    baz_ ("Client exiting")
23.10.01 #       <langhaarrocker> I recorded a whole album and then splitted it.
23.11.16 #       <LinusN> then i can imagine why you get resynch's
23.11.48 #       <LinusN> the recorded files are not that editable
23.12.22 #       <LinusN> does mp3directcut decode the mp3 data?
23.12.23 #       <langhaarrocker> mp3directcut claims to split at frame borders.
23.12.37 #       <LinusN> yes, but the frames are not independent of each other
23.12.57 #       <langhaarrocker> and that might cause resyncs? :(
23.13.02 #       <LinusN> yes
23.13.24 #       <LinusN> i was about to add a "generate editable files" option, but that has to wait until 2.1 :-(
23.13.37 #       <LinusN> the bit reservoir is the problem
23.13.55 #       * langhaarrocker was searching his brain for that word.
23.14.34 #       * LinusN caresses his cat
23.14.41 #       <langhaarrocker> :)
23.14.53 #       <BoD[]> cats are mad
23.15.06 #       <BoD[]> (that needed to be said)
23.16.06 Quit    midknight2k3 ("-=SysReset 2.53=-")
23.16.15 #       <langhaarrocker> Isn't it usually those bad cat-carressing-I-Rule-The-World guys  who are mad?
23.16.49 #       <BoD[]> nono the cats are mad :)
23.17.26 #       <BoD[]> for example: try to move a thread near a cat...
23.17.45 Quit    Jet8810 ("Client Exiting")
23.17.50 #       <langhaarrocker> Thread? round robin scheduling? :)
23.18.04 #       <BoD[]> mouahahah :)
23.18.12 #       <BoD[]> ok not only cats are mad then ;)
23.18.38 #       <langhaarrocker> I only have command.com. Cat is for unix, I think.
23.19.08 #       <BoD[]> wohohoh
23.21.25 #       <BoD[]> i purchased a game boy camera the other day
23.21.59 #       <BoD[]> but don't have a way to download the pictures to my computer .. this sux
23.22.23 #       <langhaarrocker> ? No usb? No serial cord?
23.22.40 #       <BoD[]> no :) this is a very old thing
23.22.49 #       <BoD[]> it was never meant to connect to a pc
23.23.07 #       <langhaarrocker> oh, analog?
23.23.26 #       <BoD[]> hmmm well no !
23.23.42 #       <BoD[]> how could it be analog ? :)
23.23.59 #       <langhaarrocker> How can it be digital and have no interface?
23.24.58 #       <BoD[]> well actually you can connect it to a small printer
23.25.16 #       <langhaarrocker> With the toy cam of my mobile phone I at least can transfer files via irda
23.25.31 #       <langhaarrocker> or usb
23.25.36 #       <langhaarrocker> or serial cable
23.25.43 #       <BoD[]> you know the game boy ? It's a special cartrige, like a game except it has a small camera .. this takes 128x112 4 grey levels cute pictures
23.26.00 #       <langhaarrocker> lol
23.26.34 #       <BoD[]> i need a cartrige reader for this if I want to download the pictures
23.26.42 #       <BoD[]> but it's rare and/or expensive :)
23.27.55 #       <BoD[]> i'm going to watch tv now .. bye
23.27.58 #       <langhaarrocker> Once upon a time - when the C64 was high-tech - I turned my 9-needle-printer (hey, that's better then 7-needles!) into a scanner.
23.28.29 Nick    BoD[] is now known as BoD[TV] (~BoD@m131.net81-67-41.noos.fr)
23.29.11 #       <langhaarrocker> LinusN: Do you know who made the playlist code?
23.29.29 #       <LinusN> mostly bagder i think
23.29.33 #       <LinusN> why?
23.31.00 #       <langhaarrocker> I had a strange phonomenon: A playlist would play (including changing tracks) but the rockbox ui didn't know it was playing. It stayed in browser mode, wouldn't switch to wps, queueing wasn't available
23.31.35 #       <langhaarrocker> I had that only once and couldn't reproduce it.
23.34.07 #       <LinusN> with the build from friday?
23.34.14 #       <langhaarrocker> yes
23.35.05 #       <LinusN> the 0411 daily build?
23.36.04 #       <langhaarrocker> No, wait. It was the 0410 
23.38.21 #       <langhaarrocker> I remember that the state of rockbox (like playing, paused, ffwd) used to be stored serveral times at serveral places. Like in the status bar and in the mpeg code. That is a pattern prone to bugs like that.
23.38.57 #       <LinusN> yes, that is about to change after 2.0
23.39.15 #       <LinusN> regarding your problem, it was fixed 0411
23.39.30 #       <langhaarrocker> ok
23.39.43 #       <LinusN> zagor "fixed" a prev/next issue and broke a lot of things
23.39.49 #       <langhaarrocker> :)
23.41.58 #       <langhaarrocker> btw: how is your family?
23.43.45 #       <LinusN> same same
23.43.54 #       <langhaarrocker> :(
23.46.59 #       <langhaarrocker> I must sleep now. CU
23.47.12 #       <PsycoXul> the create playlist makes playlists sortof backwards
23.47.33 Quit    langhaarrocker ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)")
23.47.38 #       <PsycoXul> they start from the last track/subdir and end with the first
23.47.48 #       <PsycoXul> though the tracks in the subdirs are in the right order