--- Log for 30.04.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 day and 0 hours ago 00.08.45 # Good evening tracktheripper 00.08.45 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.08.46 # how are ya? 00.08.49 # im fine thanx :-) 00.09.16 # good good :-) 00.28.51 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@ACC41FB8.ipt.aol.com) 00.30.12 Quit diddystar5 (Client Quit) 00.49.02 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC8C9DF7.ipt.aol.com) 00.49.14 # Yeee 00.50.27 # hi 00.51.49 # hey hey 00.51.57 # why do you always leave in the middle of something? 00.58.23 # Well hello to you to. 01.05.13 # ignore me! please! 01.10.17 # YES! 01.10.24 # sorry was talking to my tenant 01.11.03 # now it seems you are ignoring me midknight2k3! 01.11.04 # lol 01.11.19 # well 01.11.37 # i got tired of checking back every 5 seconds 01.11.40 # just gonna get my beloved Arcgos 01.11.51 # get it? 01.12.02 # i thought you HAD one 01.12.13 # oh like fetch it 01.12.22 # YES! 01.12.29 # i have a beloved Recorder 10 01.12.34 # haa 01.12.46 # very beloved indeed 01.12.51 # yea 01.12.52 # at least 01.12.54 # I wouldn't change it for the world 01.12.59 # you havea recorder 01.13.04 # yea 01.13.10 # not a crass Player 01.13.45 # i would have a recorder 10 than a studio 30 01.13.45 # yes, 30 (three zero 01.13.51 # two lines, WHAT A JOKE! 01.13.53 # lol 01.14.01 # yea 2 lines of 11 character cells/! 01.14.09 # archos needs to discontinue those 01.14.13 # i mean that's just GAY 01.14.17 # two lines? 01.14.28 # the Players have been discontinued! 01.14.32 # oh yes wow i have the song name and a progress bar he he 01.14.36 # really? 01.14.37 # Why the hell did they put a useless LINE IN on the players! 01.14.43 # HA 01.14.46 # really they did? 01.14.57 # yea 01.15.03 # the Line In on the Players is just for show 01.15.03 # oh my 01.15.05 # does nothing 01.15.15 # well DUH 01.15.29 # yes though recorders must be the best 01.15.34 # even better than ipods i think 01.15.45 # id rather have an archos recorder 10 than an ipod 30 01.15.51 # and WHY, WHY, WHY, do you navigate LEFT AND RIGHT to move the menu up and down on the Players! 01.15.59 # do you have one? 01.16.09 # i have a Recorder 01.16.18 # JUSt a recorder? 01.16.32 # yea 01.16.43 # to me the Ipod looks boring, the Archos looks like an MP3 player at least :-) 01.17.03 # AND 01.17.11 # the redcorder can do basically anything 01.17.23 # it just lets the firmware tell it what to display 01.17.35 # yea 01.17.38 # it doesn't have a HARD CODED charset or anything 01.17.40 # anything you want 01.17.42 # :-) 01.17.45 Join FranzK [0] (jirc@sdcax2-a227.dialup.optusnet.com.au) 01.17.47 # like WORMLET 01.17.48 # YAY 01.17.55 # hello 01.18.10 # I'm not crazy 01.18.19 # ive strutted my funky stuff, jumped, ran, cruised with my Archos and it never ever skips :-) 01.18.37 # how could it lol? 01.18.46 # loads the crap into the buffer in about 2 seconds 01.18.51 # BUT 01.18.57 # and it plays 320kbs files flawlessely 01.18.57 # you have to beware of the squeek 01.19.09 # lol 01.19.13 # if you shake it when it's on and the rw heads arent locked 01.19.17 # thats just the Archos being happy :-) 01.19.19 # it will squeek and grind and DIE 01.19.28 # man it scared me once 01.19.31 # mine never does that 01.19.39 # mine has the trusty Hitachi hard drive 01.19.39 # i kneeled down and it beeped and it started granding 01.19.46 # not the crap Toshiba drive 01.19.51 # it was GRRRRRRRRING 01.19.58 # mine is hitachi too 01.20.19 # I was like 'oh no oh crap shut it off whadoido NOO!' 01.20.29 # lol 01.20.33 # mine doesn't do that :-) 01.20.46 # right now im reasssembling my messed up merriam webster dictionary 01.21.47 # lol 01.21.59 # man i think i killed it 01.22.45 # there are three things i now know: 01.23.02 # archos rocks, my dictionary was expensive and sonicblue is almost dead 01.24.38 # awwwwwww 01.24.53 # what 01.25.03 # u killed ur Archos 01.25.09 # no! 01.25.11 # what? 01.25.27 # i think i killed my dictionary 01.25.59 # but the bateries are prolly just dead 01.26.34 Join Guest23 [0] (jirc@pD951EB33.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.26.35 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 01.27.02 # how can he? 01.27.04 # hello! 01.38.18 Quit Guest23 ("Leaving") 01.46.07 Join Guest883015341 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC90D570.ipt.aol.com) 01.46.12 # crap! 01.46.34 # my midknight2k3 account is still here! how do i get it out 01.46.43 # if it involves clicking something forget it 01.46.52 Quit midknight2k3 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.47.03 # yes! 01.47.07 # brb 01.47.11 Part Guest883015341 01.47.41 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC90D570.ipt.aol.com) 01.47.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.51.23 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-221.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 01.52.24 # Well 01.52.31 # hello 01.54.16 # what 01.55.37 # you talking to youerself midknight? 02.05.47 # ha 02.06.08 # well i was testing out the 'edit' box whatever that is 02.06.21 # 'editbox' 02.06.41 # is no one here? 02.16.34 # never heared about 'editbox'... 02.16.55 # in mirc 02.17.01 # is that what you're using? 02.17.39 # no - i'm using the Jpilot jIRC applet... 02.18.01 # the java rockbox roland thing? 02.18.38 # i used to use it but it always bugs me saying 'This version is not registered' every time you say something 02.19.06 # yeah... but you can not read that in the chat... its just on your screen... 02.19.14 # did you try to register it?? 02.19.20 # yeah but hey it's no big deal 02.19.28 # it's not mine 02.19.28 # i dunno 02.19.37 # i never tried - only the webhost can i think 03.40.54 Join FranzK1 [0] (jirc@sdcax2-b061.dialup.optusnet.com.au) 03.40.54 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.40.54 Quit midknight2k3 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.43.16 Quit webmind (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.44.33 Quit FranzK1 (Client Quit) 03.46.21 Join webmind [0] (webmind@seal.student.utwente.nl) 03.47.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.53.09 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-156-241-247.bct.bellsouth.net) 03.54.21 # everybody, try to light a candle tonight, its Holocaust Remembrance Day...Yom HaShoah 03.59.42 Quit FranzK (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04.01.31 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@ACC9173C.ipt.aol.com) 04.01.46 # hello? 04.02.37 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 04.02.58 # glee! hello! 04.06.37 # hello there. 04.07.09 Quit dw|gone (Remote closed the connection) 04.07.56 Join jzoss [0] (~jzoss@cs6711159-222.satx.rr.com) 04.09.34 # hi 04.09.39 # hiya 04.10.18 # What is '^U^P^'? 04.10.30 # lol. just got home. 04.10.37 # time to check da eeee-mail 04.10.49 # yeeee 04.11.25 # and update my rockbox patches (haven't been touched in a month) =) 04.13.01 # ha 04.13.04 # hee 04.13.09 # im busy watching funny videos 04.16.51 Quit Jet8810 ("Client exiting") 04.19.47 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-221.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 04.23.26 # nibbler? 04.26.03 # jzoss: how are you? 04.26.10 # pretty good! =) 04.26.30 # I haven't been around rockbox for a while... been out of town and upgrading my computer. =) 04.26.35 # jzoss: I haven't seen you around in a while. Any updates to your patches :) 04.26.50 # hehe. That's what I'm working on now, actually. 04.27.08 # Hopefully will have the custom recording filenames patch out today, and the ID3 editor this weekend sometime 04.27.26 # really --- does your patch/es support free form filenames? 04.27.53 # sorry -- freeform genres... 04.28.07 Join dw|gone [0] (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 04.28.14 # No, there's another patch for freeform genres 04.28.31 # I figured I'd let the powers that be decide about that patch first, and retrofit mine as necessary. 04.29.00 # I see. Yeah, that is the patch I was talking about. 04.29.35 # Glee! 04.35.49 # What is differnet in your new patch compared to the one already on the patch tracker? More ID3 fields? 04.36.28 # Nah. Just cleaned up (linus had some suggestions) and updated to work with recent CVS versions. 04.43.59 Quit midknight2k3 () 04.53.20 Quit jzoss (Remote closed the connection) 04.56.43 Join jzoss [0] (~jzoss@cs6711159-222.satx.rr.com) 05.13.34 # jzoss: I really like the style of your ID3 viewer -- I just like the whole patch in general. alot! 05.13.34 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.14.03 # thx. UI is just the default keyboard UI. 05.14.15 # But the back-end code needs some significant clean-up work. =) 05.14.35 # Part of my fixing is also gonna be to preserve existing ID3 tags that rockbox doesn't support 05.23.17 Join Destk [0] (Des@crtntx1-ar6-4-64-083-084.crtntx1.dsl-verizon.net) 05.23.18 # howdy 05.23.43 # howdy! 05.24.13 # just heard about this rock box thing 05.24.23 # do you own an archos? 05.25.38 # yea 05.25.42 # studio 20 05.26.02 # cool. Download rockbox and try it out! =) 05.26.14 # I almost guarantee you'll like it better than the default firmware. 05.26.19 # Or at least many others do... 05.26.38 # can you go back the the default if you dont like it 05.26.39 # ? 05.26.43 # err to 05.26.56 # yes 05.27.04 # how do i install it 05.28.10 # check the manual at: http://rockbox.haxx.se/manual/manual.pdf 05.28.57 # But the short story is, just download a rockbox-2-0-player.tgz file and unzip it into your rockbox root directory 05.29.12 # To revert to the original firmware, there are two methods: 05.29.40 # i got the .zip 05.29.41 # 1) delete (or rename) the archos.mod file that gets created in your root directory. 05.29.43 # yea 05.30.00 # hold up 05.30.12 # unzip it into my rockbox root directory 05.30.13 # ? 05.30.15 # 2) copy an archos firmware (??.mod) to your firmware from their website, and then "play" it from within rockbox. 05.30.23 # Sorry. ARCHOS root directory. On the devices. 05.30.36 # So like E:\ (or whatever) in windows 05.30.41 # ah 05.30.46 # so unzip all the files 05.30.47 # ? 05.31.09 # It should have a .rockbox folder and a .mod file. Right? 05.32.18 # yea 05.32.24 # all thats on my mp3 player now 05.32.48 # so turn it on now and play the .mod? 05.33.09 # Reboot, and that's it! 05.33.20 # ok brb =) 05.33.31 # hey 05.33.31 # Reboot your ARCHOS, not your computer. ;) 05.33.37 # oh =p 05.33.40 # i was like wtf 05.33.57 # Make sure you unmount the archos before unplugging it, right? 05.34.30 # can you make folders with passwords on here? 05.34.54 # It's a standard FAT32 file system, so I don't think so...but I'm not sure. 05.35.06 # If you can do it on a windows FAT partition, you can do it on the archos. 05.35.56 # a red light now? 05.36.13 # red light?? 05.37.13 # yea 05.37.25 # beside the green one now, it used to be green 05.37.41 # disc spindown? 05.37.44 # ?? As in, things aren't booting up, or what? 05.38.03 # The red light is used to show disc access. I don't know what the archos firmware uses it for 05.38.08 # nope its workign 05.38.13 # cool. 05.38.13 # just this light used to be green 05.38.14 # not red 05.38.48 # Hmmmm... {shrug}. I dunno. It's not constantly red, right? Just when the disk spins up? 05.39.10 # yea 05.39.24 # yah, that's expected. 05.39.49 # To get back to default (archos) firmware, the easiest way is to download a firmware "update" from archos's website. 05.40.17 # Copy that file to somewhere on the archos disk, and rename to something like "archosFW.mod" (doesn't matter, just not the default) 05.40.41 # If you "play" that file in Rockbox, it'll load that archos firmware. 05.40.52 # Then you can reboot (the archos) to get back into rockbox 05.41.14 # sleep timer is cool 05.41.37 # You should browse the manual. There's all sorts of cool features that are not immediately obvious. =) 05.42.20 # see i had the old shit 05.42.22 # with only 999 05.42.24 # so i made folders 05.42.27 # for each artist 05.42.37 # 276 artists 05.42.46 # Ahhh. Rockbox has some limits, too. But they're different than the Archos ones. 05.42.54 # what do you mean 05.42.58 # And configurable, if you want to compile it yourself...just change some constants in the source. 05.43.18 # Limits on # of files in directory/playlist, etc. 05.44.03 # what happends if u hit debuf 05.44.05 # debug 05.45.02 # oh. It won't kill anything. It just displays a bunch of internal values to the screen 05.45.09 # That have no bearing on normal operation. 05.45.22 # I checked those limits: 400 files/dir, 10,000 files/playlist 05.45.23 # ok when making a playlist 05.45.45 # i can make it on the player? 05.46.18 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#53 (for size limits) 05.46.31 # There is currently very limited support for playlist-creation on the device 05.46.43 # A full playlist editor is planned, but not yet implemented. 05.47.16 # Currently, you can directory-browse to a subdirectory. The menu option "Create Playlist" will then create a playlist with all files in that directory and subdirectories 05.47.49 # ah 05.47.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.48.09 # easy to just make a playlist on winamp 05.48.11 # then put it on there 05.48.19 # definitely 05.48.36 # That was the reason for the 400-files/directory limit, but 10,000 files/playlist 05.52.40 # forgot where the save playlist button is 05.52.40 # rofl 05.52.53 # and now i find it 05.52.58 # wtg 05.53.41 # brb 05.53.43 Quit Destk () 05.57.32 Join Destk [0] (Des@crtntx1-ar6-4-64-083-084.crtntx1.dsl-verizon.net) 05.57.34 # back 05.59.38 # hiya (again) =) 06.01.42 # wish they had gamse for this 1 =p 06.02.01 # people have actually suggested game ideas... 06.02.09 # Mostly card-game based (blackjack) 06.02.26 # for the studio? 06.02.59 # right. 06.03.28 # card games, 'cause you just need like 10 char-cells to represent a hand of 5 cards 06.05.01 # disk spindown 06.05.07 # battery capacity 06.05.20 # ?? 06.05.59 # wahts that stuff 06.06.15 # option-wise? 06.06.51 # yea 06.06.54 # its in the options 06.07.09 # disk spindown: time to wait after disk spins up (for some action: directory browsing, caching MP3 data, etc) before spinning down 06.07.48 # Longer spindown delay times might make it feel more "responsive" while you're track-skipping, but will suck more battery juice 06.08.47 # battery capacity: your player uses standard AA NiMH batteries. You can replace these with higher-capacity batteries if you want, for longer runtime between charges. 06.08.58 # ah 06.09.04 # The battery capacity option chooses what size batteries you use 06.09.24 # nice patch jzoss 06.09.26 # ohhh so their actually the same batteries? 06.09.30 # is the ID3 patch coming too? 06.09.57 # I haven't uploaded my updated rec-filename patch yet. =) But the ID3-edit patch should be forthcoming this weekend or so 06.09.57 # well guys im off =) 06.10.07 # cya Destk. Enjoy your rockbox! 06.10.07 # ill be back later 06.10.16 # thanks for the help jzoss 06.10.22 Quit Destk () 06.10.41 # sounds great 06.26.38 Part jzoss ("Client exiting") 06.56.54 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-221.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 07.47.45 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-78-136-7.vc.shawcable.net) 07.47.45 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.47.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.28.55 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.30.23 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 08.30.36 # morning mats 08.32.01 # morning 08.41.45 # morning 08.55.12 Join thu_ [0] (~thu@h24-78-136-7.vc.shawcable.net) 08.57.04 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-221.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 08.58.55 Quit thu_ (Client Quit) 09.07.35 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 09.07.45 # morning dwihno 09.10.44 Quit thu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.13.50 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.14.02 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.28.00 # Hej Bagdern 09.35.45 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-78-136-7.vc.shawcable.net) 09.48.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.57.23 # I guess nobody really wants the redled bug fixed after all... 09.57.23 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.08.54 # Zagor: I'm using the builds! 10.10.23 # good 10.20.25 Join langhaarrocker [200] (~Phil@212-204-020-032.dsl1.versanet.de) 10.23.22 Join Quelsaruk [0] (~jose@faerun.ugr.es) 10.23.25 # hi 10.23.29 # hi 10.23.32 # bueno 10.23.41 # bonito y barato :) 10.23.56 >>> "explain *" by langhaarrocker (~Phil@212-204-020-032.dsl1.versanet.de) 10.24.09 # oogabooga 10.26.52 # i feel my box will crash in 5 minutes or so... 10.27.25 # mine is crashing since 5 days 10.29.58 Quit Bagder (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10.29.58 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.31.03 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 10.31.03 NJoin Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 10.35.43 Join Nomad__ [0] (nomad@24-216-225-11.charter.com) 10.37.33 # i can reliabley crash my rockbox by trying to set the time/date after losing power :) 10.38.10 # date is overrated :-) 10.38.18 # what happens? 10.42.37 # mt: lucky you. Mine crashes unreliably when trying to use buttons :( 10.43.51 # coming bak in a minute 10.43.52 # :) 10.43.59 # *back 10.44.00 Quit Quelsaruk ("Cerrando la cliente") 10.45.31 # it trys to setup the date to be a 'good estimate', which usually has the year as ~2065 and the month as off the chart 10.45.59 # then scrolling through the years to get it back to 2003, it suddenly comes up with "Sound Settings" as the year 10.46.07 # lol 10.46.28 # then, regardless of whether you press on or off to cancel, you get a crash 10.46.37 # i'll just replicate and get the code 10.47.53 # 030427-2222 is the ver - its a bleeding edge from sunday iirc 10.48.12 # yay 10.48.25 # heh 10.48.33 # now says the month is "Rockbox" 10.49.04 # ooh, no error message this time, just complete lockup 10.50.16 # I04:IllInstr at 00000000 10.50.49 # weired adress 10.51.33 # yep 10.54.17 # [ 676339 ] fm rec : battery display indicates incorrect values <<-- works for me, iirc fixed by one of mike holden's fm patches 10.55.00 # ok 10.57.52 # i also had an 11 second mp3 repeat itself 6 or 7 times last night, no ideas on that [playing a ~3k file playlist, on shuffle, I suppose its possible it was in there 6 times, but shuffled all together?] 11.13.30 Join Quelsaruk [0] (~jose@faerun.ugr.es) 11.13.34 # re-hi 11.14.05 # bueno 11.14.31 # yo, feel the flow! que pasa paradox! :) 11.16.28 # http://hoopajoo.net/projects/soffice2html.html 11.16.37 # sounds like something for us 11.16.54 # neat 11.21.55 # hey! that's great :) 11.22.57 # * tm cowers, in danger of asking a very newbie question... 11.23.29 # I've read numerous warnings about 'ejecting' my jukebox before disconnecting it froma windows comp 11.23.37 # * Bagder prepares to laugh, long and hard ;-) 11.23.41 # if I use linux, is it sufficient to just umount it? 11.23.46 # yes 11.23.48 # :-) 11.23.48 # tm... i've survived here a long time, don't fear :P 11.24.05 # * tm *did* look at a lot of faqs first... :-) 11.24.14 # umount is perfectly fine 11.24.25 # good good... now I've just got to remember to do that :-) 11.24.28 # umount == eject (windoze) 11.24.49 # I assumed the two would be the same, just didn't want to try it on my live toy :-) 11.25.07 # * tm makes a bid for smiliest person on ircstats.... 11.26.53 # presumably nowadays the feature list item that says fm tuner support is not in rockbox is now incorrect? 11.27.12 # no 11.27.15 # * tm guesses the recipient of rockbox email is lurking around here now... 11.27.15 # aha 11.27.21 # there's no fm tuner support 11.27.28 # just on the nightlies? 11.27.34 # nope 11.27.47 # the FM recorder model is supported, yes 11.27.52 # FM tuning is not 11.27.53 # aha.... 11.27.58 # * tm apologises..... 11.28.03 # being dumb... 11.28.07 # hhe 11.28.08 # no worries 11.28.14 # any plans for support then? 11.28.23 # as soon as we have code ;-) 11.28.27 # Yesterday Linus claimed to have first contact with the fm chip. He was able to write / read some registers 11.28.27 # or is that another bit of proprietary hardware? 11.29.39 # no it's well documented 11.30.40 # * tm curses his metal body that he programs in java, not c... makes writing drivers so much more difficult ;-) 11.30.47 # lunch 11.31.22 # Zagor: good idea but a bit early 11.32.15 # btw, we should ask developers to "document" a bit all new features, so it's easier to write them on the manual. Who knows better what a setting do than the person that developed it? :) 11.32.46 # The man who documents it :) 11.33.06 # Quelsaruk: its been tried before, its next to impossible to make that happen 11.33.24 # that's one reason why I write the digest 11.33.37 # * tm suspects ai will precede universally documented code 11.34.01 # if manual would be in the cvs somehow, maybe it could encourage coders to write doc 11.34.15 # * langhaarrocker doesn't believe in ai, only in as 11.34.35 # artificial stupidity? :) 11.34.46 #>> "-)" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 11.34.48 # you got it! 11.35.28 # Bagder: but it's not too dificult to write just a few notes about that setting 11.35.45 # I know 11.35.56 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-221.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 11.36.18 # afterwards i could test that and using my few neurons and the notes, wirte something on the manual :) 11.36.23 # hm 11.36.23 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBBC1D5.ipt.aol.com) 11.36.30 # *write 11.36.33 # mornin 11.36.33 # Bagder: be careful Quelsaruk tends to include those notes without improving them :) 11.36.40 # haha 11.36.44 # hehe 11.36.44 # or, as a convention, the patch tracker description should contain doc? 11.36.54 # langhaarrocker: your notes were great 11.37.09 # Schnueff: a good idea :) 11.40.51 # Bagder: anyway, the manual source file isn't on cvs, no? 11.41.22 # I don't think so, we should poke Zagor 11.42.07 # Is the manual soruce in xml? 11.42.28 # its openoffice format, which is xml in tar+gz file iirc 11.42.58 # zip 11.43.09 # ok 11.43.11 # xml + binaries (pics) in zip 11.43.37 # hm. Interesting to handle with cvs. 11.43.51 # yeah :-/ 11.44.01 # Bagder: just a thought, is it possible to have a pdf&html version for the official release manual, and generate a pdf file of bleeding edge manual as we do with the firmware? 11.44.22 # good question 11.44.33 # can you make a pdf with openoffice from the command line? 11.44.49 # no idea 11.44.54 # ummm 11.44.55 # never use oo 11.45.29 # me too 11.45.32 # possibly there can be some external tool that enables it 11.45.50 # .. in english is "neither i", no? 11.45.59 # :) 11.46.06 # "me neither" 11.46.12 # yo tampoco 11.46.36 # (it's amazing my spanish level) 11.46.37 # ;) 11.46.47 # Quel: I often am amazed too, when I read what I typed. :) 11.46.48 #