--- Log for 08.05.103 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 day and 15 hours ago 00.08.33 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBFFEAC.ipt.aol.com) 00.09.42 Quit Stevie[FP] (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 00.09.57 # hi 00.12.27 Join Stevie[FP] [0] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) 00.19.08 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 00.20.51 Quit PolrBear ("Leaving") 00.23.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.59.02 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@ACA84A9B.ipt.aol.com) 00.59.10 # Hell-o 01.10.31 Join ken0__ [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.92.forward.012.net.il) 01.11.24 # hi 01.26.20 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m131.net81-67-41.noos.fr) 01.26.24 # hello! 01.29.42 # nhey 01.32.29 # what are you doing 01.33.36 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-213-20-152-78.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 01.34.30 # Nibbles 01.35.23 # i'm doing my home page.. you ? 01.35.42 # thats what i should be doing lol 01.35.49 # or at least working on my rockbox review 01.39.30 # what do you think i should do - website or rockbox? 01.40.20 Join Mighty_ [0] (mboss@h72n1fls35o931.telia.com) 01.40.46 # ceratinly a lot of people in here 01.40.50 # Hes, you're not the same Hes as on QuakeNet ? 01.41.18 # ahh hes not here i dont think 01.42.28 # hes not here 01.42.29 # :))) 01.42.33 # good joke 01.42.44 # wow 01.42.50 # yeh i just realized 01.42.53 # EXCELLENT one! 01.42.56 # :)) 01.43.54 # :))))))))))) 01.49.18 # so whats the idea? website? rockbox? 01.49.22 # i gues rockbox 01.51.10 # * Stevie[FP] is away [gone] [KS-MsgLog Off] 01.51.32 # if rockbox what will it be exactly? 01.52.22 # a review 01.52.27 # epinions.com 01.53.03 # forget the website idea 01.53.04 # okay 01.54.06 # is your page almost done? 02.02.12 # yup 02.03.37 # can i see it when you finish? 02.09.27 # well you can see the main page :) it's here : http://www2.JRAF.org:31442/index5.jsp 02.12.06 # where is Zagor 02.12.29 # lloking good bod 02.13.32 # thnx 02.13.56 # hahaha 02.13.59 # like the disclamier 02.14.04 # i cant read it but thats just me :) 02.14.27 # hey 02.14.43 # hi 02.16.33 # and i like the 'cool logo' 02.18.26 # there are several logos, they change when you reload the page 02.19.01 # really? 02.19.04 # neat 02.19.12 # hey did you ever see my ASCII burgers? 02.19.49 # lol 02.23.26 # heres my latest greatest 02.23.32 # (----) 02.23.36 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 02.23.36 # \/\/\/ 02.23.36 # ______ 02.23.40 # OK 02.23.43 # ====== 02.23.45 # (----) 02.23.47 # lol 02.23.51 # call me crazy but I think I am going to switch over from Archos 20gb Recorder to Ipod... 02.23.52 # the best burger ever 02.24.07 # NO 02.24.10 # DO NOT 02.24.18 # I REPEAT do NOT do that 02.24.27 # haha 02.24.27 # jet : i won't call you crazy. I'll call you RICH :) 02.24.30 # alright midnight, talk me out of it 02.24.37 # is that a joke? 02.24.38 # BoD, thats a fair assessment...:-P 02.25.00 # okay let me start ok shut up now let me talk 02.25.06 # midnight: great burger by the way. ascii-art is a noble art. 02.25.20 # haha thnks 02.25.26 # okay lesson one 02.25.31 # archos can record, ipdo can not 02.25.49 # archos has rockbox, now with ROCKBOX you will get all you want, they listen and all that 02.26.02 # You get to browse files 02.26.08 # There's games 02.26.15 # You get so many options 02.26.25 # Rockbox keeps on going - ipod just sucks 02.26.31 # theres nothing to set or customize 02.26.37 # rockbox can rsume 02.26.43 # ipod cannot 02.26.49 # archos is much more betterer 02.26.57 # ipod cant compete 02.27.01 # archos for life 02.27.07 # ipod is sucks 02.27.10 # im done now 02.27.15 # need more persuading? 02.27.49 # haha... 02.27.52 # OK, first of all I never record 02.28.01 # was it really a joke?? 02.28.01 # wait, Ipod cannot resume? 02.28.05 # no midnight 02.28.11 # the new Ipods look SWEET 02.28.11 # no way 02.28.15 # all sensors, VERY thin... 02.28.19 # aww forget them 02.28.29 # come on 02.28.34 # rockbox keeps going 02.28.38 # you can ivert 02.28.38 # invert 02.28.40 # hehe 02.28.41 Quit Mighty_ ("[BX] With a BitchX here and a BitchX there, here a BitchX there a BitchX everywhere a BitchX") 02.28.41 # you get OPTIONS 02.28.47 # Ipod has bigger screen 02.28.47 # it's just so much better 02.28.53 # better backlight, much sleeker 02.29.00 # apple is no fun 02.29.06 # lol... 02.29.39 # wait 02.29.47 # you say something and i will top it 02.29.51 # start. 02.30.04 # ok 02.30.53 # Ipod is thinner, sleeker, cooler, has arguably a more polished interface, larger capacity, sensor buttons so no moving parts to break (my buttons are bit lopsided), usb 2.0 AND Firewire... 02.31.12 # okay now HALT 02.31.17 # let me go now 02.32.14 # k 02.33.00 # Arhcos is thicker, and has less a capacity, but rockbox will give you much more things (for example, invert, games, line selector, file broswer, customizable wps + cfg files, can show text and none of that iss on ipod) and who gives a care about sensor buttons, sensor my ass they can break too, usb 2.0 is fine esp with rockbox 02.33.03 # WOOOOOOOO 02.33.45 # HMM i DO SEE YOUR POINT 02.33.55 # err caps off 02.34.03 # but the Archos is just so much clunkier then the Ipod... 02.34.09 # it's much better 02.34.12 # oh well 02.34.13 # if I had a thin MP3 player I would use it a LOT more though 02.34.16 # it's still small 02.34.20 # that is my main thinking point right now... 02.34.23 # yeah 02.34.26 # but.... 02.34.29 # that I would use the Ipod a lot more cuz of this 02.34.33 # okay wait one more minute ok 02.34.41 # k 02.34.45 # let me recap all 02.34.45 # hang on 02.35.07 # you're so fun:))) 02.35.10 # hmm heh 02.35.25 # hey shutup im doing this for rockbox :\ 02.35.47 # pros of getting ipod: smaller, sleeker (who cares no one LOOKS at it really), slightly louder and has sensors.. hmm 02.35.59 # well being fun is a really + for rockbox so it's ok :) 02.36.41 # cons of getting: no more rockbox, no more invert, no more wormlet (AWWW NO!!!) no more karaoke no more feature requests, no more dailybuilds, no more support, no more rockbox irc..... 02.36.56 # wait i do believe the invert is the default on ipod 02.37.06 # SHUTUP BOD 02.37.11 # :) 02.37.13 # and you can install a special version of linux 02.37.14 # on the ipod 02.37.17 # you know what 02.37.20 # shut up okay just leave 02.37.24 # :))) 02.37.29 # come on ! 02.37.31 # lol... 02.37.34 # hehe 02.37.35 # i try to be objective here 02.37.40 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.92.forward.012.net.il) 02.37.46 # hey im just saying, switching to an ipod could be a very huge mistake 02.37.53 # well 02.37.58 # I would pretty much lose rockbox 02.37.59 # or it could be very good... scratch that, mediocre 02.37.59 # I say : if you have the money, just do it 02.38.02 # and gain everything else? 02.38.09 # BUT 02.38.10 # hey if you've got the money to throw around 02.38.10 # jet 02.38.15 # go ahead and buy whatever mp3 players you want 02.38.16 # there is no 'everything else' 02.38.20 # and figure out what's best for you 02.38.28 Quit ken0__ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.38.39 # what can you do on ipods? nothing. 02.38.45 # lots midnight 02.38.49 # yea psyco, true 02.38.52 # lots MORE than rockbox? 02.38.54 # i just want to hear the other side 02.38.54 # really i think it's obvious technically the ipods are superiors than an archos 02.38.58 # I have heard my side enough...LOL 02.39.06 # yea Bod 02.39.06 # technically 02.39.13 # but they are more expensive so what did you expect! 02.39.14 # see thats the one thing i mean to say 02.39.30 # they're technically better but theres no rockbox to take advantage of that 02.39.37 # of course 02.39.37 # how much could I sell a used ARchos Recorder mint condition with 4 2100 NimHs, car charger, usb cable, in box with Best Buy return plan (NO wall charger)? 02.39.54 # crapos 02.39.55 # midknight : but there's apple... they are pretty good on making gui ;) 02.39.59 # youre doing it arent you 02.40.05 # haha midnight 02.40.06 # youre getting an ipod 02.40.09 # not yet, but I am ready to 02.40.09 # i have failed 02.40.11 # miserable 02.40.15 # hahaha 02.40.16 # :)) 02.40.58 # oh well 02.41.08 # hey thats a good idea - do what you want 02.41.16 # yea, I just wanted to hear the other side 02.41.25 # as long as I can salvage the money to do it I think im gonna 02.41.36 # good luck 02.41.57 # come back and tell me what its like, doing something as horridly stupid as that 02.42.00 # hahaha 02.42.03 # please? 02.42.13 # midnight, I think I will enjoy it 02.42.18 # heh 02.42.26 # i hope you do 02.42.31 # you'd be the first 02.42.36 # heh midnight 02.42.42 # that is an outright lie :) 02.42.54 # well i know people that like ipods but 02.43.03 # not from switching to one from rockbox 02.43.10 # rockbox on a recorder that is 02.43.11 # :))))) 02.43.57 # me I think I will wait a bit again 02.44.03 # what? 02.44.03 # then I'll buy one 02.44.06 # no 02.44.07 # (ipod) 02.44.08 # no you dont 02.44.11 # hahaha 02.44.14 # you cant! 02.44.20 # as soon as i have money that is 02.44.28 # aww man 02.44.30 # well .. my archos is broken !!! 02.44.37 # i fell like the last one with an archos 02.44.40 # and i hate archos for that 02.44.49 # aw 02.44.58 # heh 02.45.06 # you cant hold a grudge 02.45.18 # next thing i buy'll probably have a few hundred GB of MEMS storage or something 02.45.30 # they can't solder a f*** battery thing 02.45.36 # you keeping your recorder psyco? 02.45.39 # before i got my archos i still had my old portable CD player from like 92 02.45.56 # lol 02.46.16 # well technically i still have it, but i mean thats what i was actualy still using :p 02.46.49 # me i don't use my archos anymore 02.46.57 # duh 02.46.59 # its BROKEN 02.47.05 # you really dont use it? 02.47.07 # well it still works 02.47.09 # never woulda guessed 02.47.15 # but i can't move it 02.47.17 # whats broken about it? 02.47.19 # i can't walk with it 02.47.28 # why? 02.47.28 # if i move it, it reboots 02.47.32 # ouch 02.47.34 # send it to me 02.47.36 # heh 02.47.37 # bad contact i guess 02.47.39 # i will 'fix' it 02.47.42 # send it to archos 02.47.52 # i opened it once and resoldered it 02.48.02 # and then i guess it just unsoldered again 02.48.06 # heh 02.48.08 # you guess? 02.48.19 # so you mean you did an even worse solder job than archos? 02.48.30 # i'm not sure i have to open it again and look 02.48.31 # it re-broke even quicker than it broke the 1st time? 02.48.31 # heh 02.48.42 # but i dont have the right screwdriver.. it's at my other place 02.48.51 # what model 02.48.53 # is it 02.49.06 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.129.forward.012.net.il) 02.49.06 # well i'm not a good solderer :) but really it's bad designed!!! 02.49.11 # recorder 20 02.49.36 # depends on how you look at it 02.49.50 # well the part i was looking at was bended because of the pressure of the battery springs 02.50.05 # that's ridiculous! 02.50.23 # hmm heh 02.51.43 # hahahaha 02.51.44 # HAHAHA 02.51.46 # i love that 02.51.49 # its your thing psyco 02.51.53 # 'hmm heh' 02.52.00 # heh 02.52.05 # :)) 02.58.21 # hmm 02.58.25 # is it now dead? 02.58.42 # just because it does not move does not mean it's not alive 02.59.03 # lol 02.59.03 # oops 02.59.03 # like a plant 02.59.08 # *shrug* 02.59.09 # plants move 02.59.13 # just too slow for you to notice 02.59.22 # oh WOW 03.01.05 Join mk2k3 [0] (~zakk@ACA84A9B.ipt.aol.com) 03.01.07 # :)) 03.01.11 # hey its me 03.01.14 # hey its me 03.01.23 # so it works 03.01.27 # but I don't like it 03.01.28 # trillian pro 03.01.39 # it frustrates me every time it reboots 03.01.45 # like i said 03.01.50 # send it to me 03.01.51 # but I still love rockbox of course 03.01.53 # i will fix it 03.01.54 # heh 03.02.03 # no, send it to me 03.02.07 # well I could fix it myself 03.02.08 # i'll really fix it 03.02.12 # buzz off i called it first 03.02.14 # i will too 03.02.17 # I just need the screwdriver 03.02.20 # and time 03.02.22 # and patience 03.02.23 # i got it! 03.02.25 # ill do it 03.02.27 # i've got the screwdriver 03.02.29 # and i've got nothing but time 03.02.31 # so do i 03.02.35 # yeah same here 03.02.36 # and more patience than anybody else i met 03.02.42 # yeah samer here 03.02.42 # :))) 03.02.44 # so send it to me 03.02.46 # hah yeah right 03.02.48 # do you have a job 03.02.49 # please? 03.02.51 # mk2k2 doesn't have any patience 03.02.56 # BoD[]: no 03.02.57 # heh 03.02.58 # i dont ;) i guess i have more free time than you! 03.02.58 # ya i do 03.03.14 # see 03.03.16 # i dont have a job you nuts? 03.03.19 # i've got more time and more patience 03.03.20 # :p 03.03.28 # im too young to have a jov 03.03.35 # yeah but you have school 03.03.40 # so? 03.03.44 # i can fix it 03.03.44 # yeah see i don't have school either 03.03.47 # heh 03.03.48 # shut up psyco 03.03.51 # i called it first 03.03.52 # its mine 03.03.57 # glee 03.04.00 # he's not gonna send it to either of us :p 03.04.00 # send it to meeeee 03.04.07 # yes he is arent you? 03.04.13 # send it to me 03.04.16 # i will fix it 03.04.26 # no 03.04.29 # like i said 03.04.31 # oh rats 03.04.31 # it still works 03.04.38 # and 03.04.40 # AND 03.04.47 # ? 03.04.50 Part mk2k3 03.05.04 # i paid so much more than i wished i did 03.05.06 # for it 03.05.08 # * midknight2k3 has left #rockbox 03.05.12 # just kidding 03.05.13 # so i can't just give it :) 03.05.19 # oh well 03.05.47 # eeee 03.06.01 # i remember 03.06.08 # when i had to clean the archos screen 03.06.14 # i couldnt find my screwdriver 03.06.17 # so i used a knife 03.06.22 Quit ken0 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.06.22 # it worked fine 03.06.32 # :/ 03.06.37 # hey dont do that 03.06.39 # im reliable 03.07.06 # it sux 03.07.11 # what? 03.07.17 # to have to open this!! 03.07.25 # you did it before 03.07.27 # didnt you? 03.07.28 # the ipods, you never have to open them !:) 03.07.35 # uh huh 03.07.38 # as a matter of fact, you can't 03.07.42 # yes you can 03.07.56 # anything we can make we can break 03.07.57 # well of course you always can, but it's not meant to 03.08.01 # duh 03.08.03 # and difficult 03.08.04 # the archos isnt meant to 03.08.09 # the xbox isnt meant to 03.08.13 # the rioriot isnt meant to 03.08.15 # did that stop me/ 03.08.18 # not really 03.08.19 # .... you KNOW what i mean :) 03.08.23 # no i dont 03.08.29 # one has screws, the other doesn't 03.08.34 # if it's not uspposed to be opened then why not open it? 03.08.44 # that makes it easy 03.08.46 # one you open it easyly, the other you don't 03.08.48 # so you can pop it open 03.08.57 # instead of screw it open 03.09.05 # hmm 03.09.09 # anybody knwo if the Ipod is fragile? 03.09.09 # oh boy 03.09.12 # ipod boy 03.09.17 # :)) 03.09.18 # j/k :) 03.09.23 # i guess it is 03.09.25 # naw it's tough 03.09.29 # very tough 03.09.34 # it dosn't have these horrible bumpers ;) 03.09.46 # BLUE bumpers.. what did they think 03.09.54 # calm down 03.10.05 # wow for $250 more you get a player without bleue bumpers 03.10.11 # im in! 03.10.54 # :))))) 03.11.03 # :)))))))))))))))))))))))))) 03.11.08 # ascii burger time 03.11.11 # (----) 03.11.13 # \/\/\/ 03.11.13 # noooooooooooooooooooooooooo 03.11.15 # ______ 03.11.17 # ====== 03.11.20 # (----) 03.11.25 # i was hunger 03.11.28 # this guy is nuts 03.11.28 # hugery' 03.11.33 # naw 03.11.36 # just smart 03.11.49 # Zakk: is the ipod fragile? 03.11.49 # Karl: nope 03.12.01 # taking to a ipod addict 03.13.39 # OK 03.13.43 # I am sticking with the Archos 03.13.45 # lol 03.13.48 # raelly? 03.13.57 # yea 03.14.00 # why? 03.14.00 # lol 03.14.11 # not worth $270 to upgrade to the Ipod 03.14.20 # not to mention the Archos looks a log more rugged 03.14.24 # now you get the whole thing i was trying to imply ;) 03.14.26 # and if it breaks its easier to replace and such 03.14.40 # and besides 03.14.49 # who rally looks at it anyways 03.15.09 # i mean, no blue bumpers? sleek? wow it'll be in your POCKET if its that size 03.15.27 # heh yea 03.15.31 # the Ipod is smaller though 03.15.37 # here we go again 03.15.39 # for sure it is a lot sleeker of a solution, but aint worth cash 03.15.40 # :))))))) 03.15.43 # yeah 03.15.48 # thats what it boils down to 03.15.50 # well and you still have rockbox 03.15.58 # if I had the much $$ to burn I would get it for sure 03.16.09 # knowing that you can always have features you want and all that it's a deal 03.16.18 # my job is done here 03.16.21 # hahaha 03.16.25 # i will leave now 03.16.31 # see you 03.16.33 # now I gotta get a wall charger for Archos 03.16.34 # haha 03.16.34 # bye 03.16.43 # something to say, bod? 03.16.49 # go in peace 03.16.52 # thankyou. 03.16.53 # and mblelop 03.16.55 Quit midknight2k3 ("BYE") 03.21.05 # damn, 31.45 for AC adapter for Archos? 03.21.07 # that is absurd! 03.21.28 # :( 03.25.08 Quit awy[baer]_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.25.59 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.92.forward.012.net.il) 03.41.48 # i'm going to bed now 03.42.13 Quit BoD[] ("tristar red sector rulezorz - me, 1992") 03.44.12 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03.54.02 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 04.23.17 Nick seb-away is now known as seb-sleep (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 04.23.17 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.23.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.32.54 Join Aman [0] (~sdf@CPE002078cb70cf-CM400049338187.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 04.33.56 # Hi. Is any live human there? 04.34.28 # . 04.36.36 # Ok, I'll ask and hope someone answers eventually once he/she comes back. I have an Archos 6000 player. I notice that, when I hook it up to USB, with the batteries out and no adapter plugged in, it spins up and I can talk to it. Can I use the USB as a power source to transfer files and save batteries? 04.38.04 # that would be nice... never tried it 04.38.07 # * glytchbinary takes out his archos 04.39.03 # Mine isn't under warranty so I hesitate to do it for extended periods. 04.39.34 # I'm using a Via USB 2.0 controler with the cable that came with the Archos. Note that the controler is 2.0. This might have something to do with it. 04.40.05 # * glytchbinary goes to try it 04.41.03 # doesn't work with my 20gig recorder 04.41.29 # Hmmm. 04.42.13 # Odd. Maybe mine is defective in some way. Thanks for trying. 04.42.33 # np 04.42.42 # and im sure there is a bit of difference between our models as well 04.42.47 # man mine is so crappy 04.42.51 # been dropped so much it rattles 04.42.56 # ohwell, still works 04.43.22 # or maybe the players are different. One more question and I'll leave you be. Are you involved with rockbox' site or manual? 04.43.39 # Well, mine's used. 04.43.51 # and it isn't in the best of shape either. 04.44.29 # no, i just play around with the source code and bother the developers in here every now and then 04.45.34 # Do you have an email for someone who knows the 6000 so I can ask this of them and see whether this has been done before? 04.45.53 # I mean someone who's ripped the thing open and looked at the internals. 04.49.42 # try looking for contact info on rockbox.haxx.se 04.49.51 # im away 04.50.57 Join jzoss [0] (~jzoss@cs6711159-222.satx.rr.com) 04.53.16 Join ken0__ [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.92.forward.012.net.il) 04.53.17 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.53.52 # Thank you. 04.53.54 Quit Aman () 06.23.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.45.32 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-213-20-152-78.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 07.21.05 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 07.21.06 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.40.17 Join awy[baer] [0] (~erklaerba@pD9E4D6BD.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.45.43 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.182.forward.012.net.il) 07.47.56 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.92.forward.012.net.il) 07.48.28 Quit ken0__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.55.22 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp107.contactor.se) 07.56.29 Quit ken0 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 08.04.25 Join xtac [0] (s@ool-18be7256.dyn.optonline.net) 08.04.35 # anyone wanna buy a 6gb archos? 08.04.43 # i'm selling mine 08.04.52 # thought this would be a good place to sell it 08.04.53 # :) 08.05.10 # haha. this is the only place where everybody's already got one... :-) 08.17.25 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 08.23.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.31.30 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 08.35.40 Part xtac 08.45.45 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-213-20-152-78.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 08.49.38 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.58.17 # hi bagder 08.58.25 # hi 08.58.35 # staying at home today 08.58.48 # i thought so 08.58.52 # damn cold 09.13.14 # morning 09.13.31 # * webmind thinks he does sth when trying to queu.. 09.25.57 # if u want to queu a file while playing u should press: on, on+play, play,