--- Log for 18.05.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 4 days and 2 hours ago 00.00.02 # which flash version? 00.00.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> 1.28 00.00.35 Quit zebda27 ("Leaving") 00.02.51 # see it now, strange that i haven't seen it before 00.03.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> When I power it off, the disk goes _on_. Maybe a funny side effect? 00.03.09 # #SERIAL#scan soft = 00000000 00.03.09 # soft=00000001 00.03.10 # fin 00.03.10 # file_chk = 0000739C 00.03.10 # calc_chk = 0000739C 00.03.10 # SoftAddress = 09046400 00.03.12 # SoftSize = 0001B6C4 00.03.27 # side effect from what? 00.03.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> from the TX idle state=high 00.04.21 # my unit starts up normally 00.04.42 # and it doesn't start when i insert the serial cable 00.05.26 # you must have stronger TX drivers than i have 00.05.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> My cable might not be perfect, it's loosing some chars, too. 00.05.52 # ouch, badness 00.06.05 # i have the same prob though, occasionally 00.09.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> idle unplugged=2.4V, idle plugged=1.9V, idle when operational=2.5V 00.10.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> Looks like a collision when the pins are not yet configured for RS232 00.10.29 # smokin' !!! 00.12.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> not that bad. I'll look for it later. 00.12.28 # USB polarity fix committed in CVS 00.12.47 # <[IDC]Dragon> You're too quick. 00.13.09 # simple, everything was prepared for it 00.13.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> I don't have the flash tool quite ready yet ;-) 00.13.36 # we really need to be careful 00.13.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> I coudn't hack and chat 00.13.45 # want the FM ROM? 00.14.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> Oh yes, get me everything. 00.16.44 # the fm files are on their way 00.16.49 # <[IDC]Dragon> You didn't like the frequency info any more? 00.16.59 # it is useless 00.17.21 # it turned out that all recorders have the same crystal 00.17.37 # i suspected something else, but the hw info survey proved me wrong 00.17.59 # LinusN: hi 00.18.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> So we gained the bytes back which my little code takes. 00.18.09 # yeah :-) 00.18.23 # but i added the ROM save code... 00.20.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> Ah, I see. And right at the top... 00.20.57 # The simulators core dump when I try to play. (Just checked out from CVS) Anyone else getting this? 00.21.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> which platform? 00.21.56 # matsl: i get it too 00.22.22 # LinusN: ok. so there is a bug to catch. 00.22.28 # i'm on the case 00.22.40 # good 00.23.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> I hope I didn't break it. 00.23.28 # it's probably my fault (the 400-file limit fix) 00.24.36 # I'm just happy your getting it too. Then it is probably not a problem with the things I'm working with ;-) 00.25.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> Linus, the FM and recorder boot rom are identical. One less to worry about. 00.25.52 # matsl: fixed in cvs 00.26.12 # nice. 00.26.14 # [IDC]Dragon: just like i suspected 00.26.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes. Last test would be an old player. 00.27.00 # you have new player? 00.27.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> no recorder. I meant because of the text only display. 00.27.40 # there are two player versions you know, old and new 00.28.09 # <[IDC]Dragon> A friend has the new, will have access to that. 00.28.26 # give me two minutes and i'll send you both 00.28.36 # i have 2 players 00.28.39 # LinusN: bugfix worked here at my end! 00.28.44 # nice 00.28.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> What is it that you haven't? 00.28.58 # time 00.29.03 # money 00.29.07 # a life 00.29.27 # <[IDC]Dragon> come on, you have 2 more kids than I do. 00.29.54 # that's what i'm talking about :-) 00.30.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> Well, it explains the no time issue. 00.31.56 # and the money 00.33.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> Sorry to distract the family talk, what version was your fm? 00.35.32 # ROM files sent 00.35.52 # 1.30j 00.38.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> Got the files. Which versions were those? 00.38.19 # 3.18 and 4.53 00.39.23 # <[IDC]Dragon> OK, all boot ROMs are the same. 00.39.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'll disassemble some deeper into them. 00.41.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> Can you help me a bit with gdb? I can't build it, says: make: *** [start.o] Error 255 00.42.18 # oops 00.42.47 # give me the entire error output 00.43.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> $ make RECORDER=1 00.43.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> sh-elf-as -o start.o start.s 00.43.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> make: *** [start.o] Error 255 00.43.42 # wow 00.43.54 # which version of gcc, and which platform? 00.44.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> cygwin 00.44.17 # oh 00.44.20 # never tried that 00.44.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> gcc wasn't called yet, it's the assembler giving trouble. 00.44.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> Versions I don't know. 00.45.01 # weird, you should get some more errors 00.45.17 # error 255, sounds like a make.exe bug 00.45.31 # try to do it manually 00.46.17 # looks like sh-elf-as isn't in your path (or doesn't exist) to me 00.46.31 # PsycoXul: maybe 00.46.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> Is that not used for Rockbox make? 00.47.04 # no 00.47.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> You're right, assembler not found. 00.47.21 # we use the gcc frontend for assembler in rockbox 00.47.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> That works even for startup code? Cool. 00.47.50 # [IDC]Dragon: you have the lightweight devkit? 00.48.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> No, full cygwin. But the sh stuff is extra, right? 00.48.31 # yes, where did you get it? 00.49.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> cygwin or sh? cygwin from the official site. 00.50.51 # sh 00.51.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> hmm, I can't remember. Probably from your site. 00.52.04 # we don't have it for download 00.52.28 # only the "lightweight devkit" 00.52.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> The assembler or the sh toolchain in general? 00.52.57 # toolchain 00.54.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> So where did I get it? Maybe I inherited it from Dirk's environment. Where is the stuff officially? 00.54.49 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/cross-gcc.html 00.56.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> No assembler there? 00.56.07 # binutils 00.57.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> OK, I'll try that tomorrow, err later today after sleeping. 00.57.29 # [IDC]Dragon: try this: 00.57.44 # rename start.s to start.S 00.57.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> (not sleeping yet) 00.57.56 # and the same in the bottom of the Makefile 00.58.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> what would that change? 00.58.50 # it would use gcc instead of as 00.59.24 # like for setjmp.S 01.00.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes, that worked. Interesting concept! 01.00.27 # it's lovely, because you can use the C preprocessor for assembly language 01.01.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> On the long run, I have some plans for the stub. Hardware breaks would be great. 01.01.22 # nice 01.01.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> I learned that gdb knows the difference. 01.01.35 # there is also a bug in the bus error handling code 01.01.45 # it hangs 01.01.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> Stepping could be done by breaking on instruction fetch. 01.02.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> The box knows the concept of bus errors? 01.03.14 # there is no instruction fetch exception on the SH1 AFAIK 01.03.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> You can set the hardware break for that. 01.04.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> Any address, but instruction fetch. 01.04.14 # ah, silly me 01.04.23 # forgot that 01.04.48 Quit _aLF ("'night") 01.04.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> I just hope that the break unit gets disabled after causing its exception. 01.06.02 # the interrupt priority scheme takes care of that 01.13.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> Your USB polarity change is good, it seems to fix a problem I had when plugging the cable in while it boots. 01.13.12 # nice 01.13.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> It was crashing completely, but nobody believed me. 01.13.50 # i still don't :-) 01.14.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> Well, from what you said it's clear to me: plugging the cable while booting makes you use the wrong polarity. 01.15.12 # no 01.15.24 # i was wrong when i explained it to you the other day 01.15.43 # it is not the usb detection, but the usb control output 01.16.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> however. 01.16.35 # still, it's good that it fixed it 01.17.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> When I plugged while the Archos screen is there, Rockbox came with it's file list and some broken splash ontop, hanging. But now it seems fixed, not worth discussing any more. 01.18.49 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'll test gdb tomorrow, need some sleep now. 01.19.15 # sleep tight 01.19.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> Thank your for plenty of help tonight. 01.19.22 # you're welcome 01.19.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> (gone brushing teeth) 01.23.45 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("Leaving") 01.34.57 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBE895F.ipt.aol.com) 01.35.02 # hello 01.35.19 # hi 01.35.27 # hey linusN 01.35.29 # u able to chat? 01.35.51 # not really, is it "important"? 01.36.08 # no it wasnt. Don't worry, not a problem 01.36.41 # busy debugging the gdb stub 01.36.56 # could the archos automatically divide CDs into individual when digital or line in recording? 01.37.22 # yes, based on silence detection 01.37.37 # what about when "Digital In recording" like on a MD player? 01.37.41 # not all that reliable, but it should be pretty good 01.37.54 # yea 01.38.15 # the track change signals on the digital input can't be detected 01.38.16 # cheers 01.38.20 # ohh 01.38.24 # thanks LinusN 01.38.27 # im off to have my dinner 01.38.28 # peace 01.38.30 # :-) 01.38.43 Quit tracktheripper (Client Quit) 01.45.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.52.07 Quit MT (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.52.07 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.52.07 Quit mbr (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.52.07 Quit Hadaka (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.52.07 Quit PsycoXul (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01.52.16 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 01.52.16 NJoin PsycoXul [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-236.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 01.52.16 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 01.52.16 NJoin MT [0] (mt@phhhwwwooooaaarrrr.annwiddecombe.com) 01.52.16 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 01.56.51 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 02.54.10 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 02.56.42 Join test123 [0] (~50875c84@151108.vserver.de) 02.56.58 Quit test123 (Client Quit) 02.57.33 Join test123 [0] (~50875c84@151108.vserver.de) 02.58.05 # getting late 02.58.31 Part test123 03.09.52 # time to sleep, nite all 03.09.57 Part LinusN 03.24.24 # hmm...what do you have to do to copy from one VHS to another? 03.39.27 Join Freek [0] (Farkface@12-210-223-80.client.attbi.com) 03.40.23 # wow, we're having fun in here, huh? 03.45.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.45.58 Quit Freek () 05.39.03 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) 05.39.10 # hiiiiii 05.45.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.02.55 Quit BoD[] ("DODOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo") 06.21.12 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.52.57 Join s [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.53.10 Quit s (Remote closed the connection) 06.53.40 Quit _seb_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.58.07 Join s [0] (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 06.59.05 Nick s is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 07.39.16 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 07.39.24 # Yeah Woo-Hoo! 07.45.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.09.45 Quit midknight2k3 ("-=SysReset 2.53=-") 08.17.29 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.44.187.forward.012.net.il) 08.35.56 Join Scorp [0] (Mike@adsl-67-117-144-203.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 08.35.58 # hey guys 08.36.24 # I just ordered my own Archos Jukebox Studio 20, for $213, was I ripped off? 08.41.29 # anybody? 08.49.44 Join Mike_ [0] (Mike@adsl-66-127-52-79.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 08.58.16 Quit Scorp (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.05.42 # hey guys anyone here? 09.12.54 # nooooooo 09.45.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.46.55 # any people here? 09.52.34 Quit Mike_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.26.17 Join awy[baer] [0] (~erklaerba@pD950E718.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.35.14 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 10.38.02 Join _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-3-181.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr) 11.04.54 Quit awy[baer] ("There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.") 11.04.59 Join awy[baer] [0] (~erklaerba@pD950E718.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.08.08 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBBFD62.ipt.aol.com) 11.08.15 # morning 11.08.49 # <_aLF> hi 11.09.21 # hey Alf 11.09.23 # how are u? 11.09.28 # never seen u before 11.10.04 # <_aLF> I come for 2 weeks 11.10.07 # cool 11.10.12 # what Archos device do u have? 11.10.17 # <_aLF> FM recorder 11.10.28 # cool 11.10.31 # i have a recorder 10 11.10.35 # what is the FM rec like? 11.10.58 # <_aLF> like multimedia 11.11.02 # <_aLF> version 11.11.21 # ye 11.11.25 # <_aLF> (I choosed this model for lithium-ion battery) 11.11.27 # Is the battery life any good in the FMrec? 11.12.01 # <_aLF> with the first model I've got, the battery was dead 11.12.10 # <_aLF> (2h max) 11.12.25 # well ive heard lots of bad reports about the batteries in the FM rec 11.12.41 # <_aLF> me too 11.13.00 # <_aLF> but, I don't know the impact 11.13.09 # <_aLF> the manual says to charge 11.13.15 # <_aLF> the battery for 6 hours 11.13.18 # one thing i like about the normal REcorder is the standard batteries 11.13.22 # <_aLF> before to use it 11.13.24 # which can easily be replaced 11.13.49 # <_aLF> yes 11.14.14 # :D 11.14.21 # <_aLF> ... I will see for my battery 11.14.35 # <_aLF> (I use it a lot) 11.14.50 # oh 11.14.55 # what is the FM tuner like? 11.15.13 # <_aLF> UI ? 11.15.50 # <_aLF> there isn't RDS 11.16.03 # <_aLF> but presets 11.16.12 # well my home hifi has RDS and I never use it 11.16.47 # <_aLF> like many people 11.17.41 # <_aLF> I've made a little patch for radio on rockbox 11.17.52 # ohh 11.18.14 # <_aLF> to choose, update preset, change order 11.18.24 # oh righty i see 11.19.55 # <_aLF> dragon is working to put rockbox in flash memory 11.19.57 # <_aLF> of archos 11.20.41 # <_aLF> I'm impatient 11.20.42 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 11.23.07 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 11.45.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.57.30 Quit awy[baer] (Remote closed the connection) 13.45.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.14.27 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14.14.40 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-156-244-132.bct.bellsouth.net) 15.01.48 Join ken0__ [0] (marklar2@80.178.44.187.forward.012.net.il) 15.01.48 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15.21.14 Join NastY [0] (nasty@pi.nxs.se) 15.21.25 Join awy[baer] [0] (~erklaerba@pD950E718.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.38.16 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (jirc@p508614DD.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.45.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.48.15 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("Leaving") 15.48.42 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.179.forward.012.net.il) 15.59.42 Quit ken0__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.05.18 Quit Jet8810 ("Client exiting") 16.16.20 Quit awy[baer] (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16.18.32 # <_aLF> I have a problem with button_get() 16.18.42 # <_aLF> someone can help me ? 16.30.33 # just about to test rockbox 16.30.44 # hope it's as cool as it seems 16.49.42 Quit ken0 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17.18.22 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 17.30.29 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.37.107.forward.012.net.il) 17.40.25 Quit _aLF ("bye") 17.43.19 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-156-244-132.bct.bellsouth.net) 17.45.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.49.51 Join _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-12-92.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.01.13 Quit ken0 (Remote closed the connection) 18.01.35 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.37.107.forward.012.net.il) 18.01.44 # <_aLF> I would like help on button_get 18.01.49 # <_aLF> could someone help me ? 18.01.54 Quit ken0 (Remote closed the connection) 18.01.55 # I could try 18.02.05 # <_aLF> hi 18.02.11 # what 18.02.15 # 's the prob? 18.02.31 # <_aLF> I would like to use on+forward, on+previous 18.02.36 # <_aLF> and "on" 18.02.40 # <_aLF> combinaison 18.02.52 # <_aLF> the problem is when I press on+forward 18.03.00 # <_aLF> it also detect "on" key 18.03.05 # yes 18.03.18 # <_aLF> is there a solution ? 18.03.40 # well, yes, make sure that the thing that acts on "on" do that on its release, not when it is pressed down 18.04.20 # <_aLF> with BUTTON_ON | BUTTON_REL: ? 18.04.33 # yes 18.04.47 # <_aLF> it doesn't work 18.05.19 # <_aLF> I use BUTTON_ON | BUTTON_LEFT for the other case 18.06.18 # <_aLF> perhaps I should add a flag ? 18.06.26 # for what? 18.06.52 # <_aLF> when I press on+left, it work 18.07.12 # <_aLF> but I release on (just after release left), it detect on 18.07.58 # <_aLF> and I don't want that 18.08.45 # then wait for the on-release before you return 18.09.12 # or do you have a better suggestion? 18.09.19 Join [keno] [0] (marklar2@80.178.37.107.forward.012.net.il) 18.11.15 # <_aLF> with a flag 18.11.26 # <_aLF> set when we press on+left/right 18.11.30 # <_aLF> perhaps 18.12.11 # <_aLF> and unset on "on" 18.12.18 # <_aLF> I try 18.12.25 # <_aLF> thanks 18.18.31 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (jirc@pD95127EB.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.18.38 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 18.19.14 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 18.24.28 Join Scorp [0] (Mike@adsl-67-117-146-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 18.24.31 # hello guys 18.25.37 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hello. 18.28.35 # I just got a Jukebox 20 from Archos, just the player and hdd for 213 was I ripped off? 18.29.02 # it's new though from a store 18.30.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> sounds fair. 18.30.19 # ok good 18.30.26 # it's coming on may 29th :( 18.30.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> Oh, you mean player, not recorder? 18.30.31 # I can't wait that long 18.30.33 # yeah player 18.30.49 # <[IDC]Dragon> not so good. 18.31.20 # what would you have paid? 18.31.34 # it's new though 18.31.49 # <[IDC]Dragon> hang on... 18.33.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> recorder: EUR 307 in january, mail order. 18.34.21 # ahh how much is that in USD? 18.34.33 # euro is worth more right? 18.34.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> times 1.12 or so currently 18.35.28 # that's 354 dollars then 18.35.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> the stuff is much cheaper in the US, saw them for little over $210 there, mail order. 18.35.49 # the recorders? 18.35.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> yes. 18.36.00 # hmm 18.36.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> no shop, though. 18.36.21 # the only reason I would wnat the recorder is because of the LCD is pixel based, and I could play the rockbox games 18.36.35 # but I think I'll have to live with out doom on a 2 inch screen :( 18.36.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> shop prices here were rather like EUR 380. 18.36.51 # ouch 18.36.53 # that's a lot 18.37.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> the current player also got a graphic sreen. 18.38.22 # yeah but it was somewhat out my range 18.38.32 # the cheapest player I could find was $213 with 0 shipping 18.39.10 # and the recorders were way out of my budget :( 18.39.45 Join Josh_ [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-156-244-132.bct.bellsouth.net) 18.40.32 # by the way, how do I code on the rockbox if I want to write my own software that will run on the Jukebox Studio 20? 18.40.45 # do I have to do ASM or can I do some kind of C or something? 18.41.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> maybe read http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/ before asking here 18.42.33 # thank you 18.44.23 # I don't see anything that'll help me write code for the rockbox :( 18.45.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> for example, one of the entries links to http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/firsttime.html 18.46.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> (read the "for hackers" part of the docs) 18.51.24 # I saw all of that, but I'm not talking abotu contributing to rockbox, (yet atleast first elt me get my unit heh) but let's say for example I want to write a "Hello World" program, do I need to compile it on my PC and move it over as a bin to the unit, or does rockbox have it's own compile that will compile src files right on the unit, or what and what kind of syntax do I use so I was hoping there was a page with an explanation to all 18.51.24 # t I can't find it, ok well I got your link so I'll look at that. 18.56.50 Quit Jet8810 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.32.52 Quit Scorp (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.45.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.00.13 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("Leaving") 20.20.29 Quit [keno] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.33.00 Nick seb-away is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 21.08.43 Quit NastY ("http://lice.codehack.com") 21.39.56 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-221-135.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 21.45.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.14.13 Join LightGOd20 [0] (Light@pop12-cpe-200-59-169-148.bbt.net.ar) 22.14.13 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.14.18 # hello 22.14.28 # i kinda need some help.. 22.15.07 # i just downloaded rockbox v2.0 for jukebox5000 22.15.36 # copied the file on the root dir and rebooted my jukebox.. 22.15.58 # and i just get an ""Jukebox ver 5.08"" 22.16.05 # and after that and HD error 22.16.15 # can anyone tell me what to do??? 22.16.37 # have you tried uninstalling rockbox? 22.16.42 # yes 22.16.51 # and i still get the same error 22.17.09 # should i try a quick format? 22.17.18 # just to check 22.17.48 # i dont know sorry 22.17.52 # ok 22.18.02 # thanx anyways.. 22.18.24 # does anyone else anything about this problem? is it common? 22.19.12 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (jirc@pD951202C.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.19.49 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@ACA6E7EC.ipt.aol.com) 22.19.59 # hello 22.20.09 # hi 22.20.19 # Who is this? 22.20.34 # martin.... 22.20.43 # never mind' 22.20.47 # ok.. 22.21.19 # can you gimme a hand with some issues i'm having with the firmware update? 22.21.55 # probably 22.21.56 # what's up? 22.22.02 # ok. 22.22.12 # i just downloaded rockbox v2.0 for jukebox5000 22.22.12 # > copied the file on the root dir and rebooted my jukebox.. 22.22.12 # > and i just get an ""Jukebox ver 5.08"" 22.22.12 DBUG Enqueued KICK LightGOd20 22.22.12 # > and after that and HD error 22.22.51 # Try uninstalling rockbox perhaps 22.22.54 # i've also tried unnistallig rockbox... 22.23.08 # i did a quik format on the jukebox 22.23.11 # Did you or you don't know how? 22.23.31 # well.. how shoud i.. 22.23.39 # How long has this been going onn? 22.23.42 # just erase the files and put a new .mod file? 22.23.45 # mm 22.23.48 # just a few hours 22.23.55 # i got the player yestarday.. 22.24.02 # and it worked just fine,.. 22.24.13 # And you did a qucik format? 22.24.20 # yes.. 22.24.29 # Odd. 22.24.34 # yes.. 22.24.34 # Does your hard drive work like usual? 22.24.45 # Does it spin, or continually click? 22.25.03 # whe it's trying to boot up it clicks 22.25.08 # More than once? 22.25.10 # does installing rockbox void warrenty btw? 22.25.17 # but when i plug it in the computer it works fine 22.25.24 # I don't think so invalid 22.25.37 # Oh so that's not the proble, 22.25.41 # Delete the MOD file 22.25.48 # see if that works if you didnt already 22.26.00 # i did already 22.26.07 # And theres still an error 22.26.13 # i also tried the .rockbox dir also.. 22.26.31 # Perhaps the problem is that something's missing 22.26.41 # maybe you shoud do a full format 22.26.47 # yeah give that a go 22.26.52 # ok 22.26.59 # before we go deep into this tha tmight help 22.27.01 # let's see what happens... 22.27.07 # let's 22.27.13 # And you just got it recently? 22.27.24 # yep 22.27.29 # At least the warranty is still here if you need it 22.27.35 # a bouth it a couple of weeks ago 22.27.37 # Perhaps even the store will exchange it for you 22.27.44 # and i got here yestarday 22.27.51 # (i'm in argentina) 22.28.01 # i've read a lot of posts on various forums of people saying their argos broke down very fast 22.28.14 # That's just it 22.28.25 # It seems not uncommon with the Player 22.28.33 # But the Recorders seem to be very reliable 22.28.57 # but it was workin just fine.. until i updated the firmware 22.29.20 # It's very odd 22.29.29 # yep indeed 22.29.39 # I never heard of that happeneing 22.30.19 # midknight2k3: are you a developer then? 22.30.33 # No 22.30.47 # But I'm often around and I never heard of it 22.31.02 # wel.. i'm just hoping i can fix this,.. 22.31.28 # you'd better just buy an ipod ;) 22.31.35 # NO WAY 22.31.40 # Did you rad my lecture? 22.31.44 # I must put it online. 22.32.00 # whats wrong with the ipod? its damn sexy 22.32.01 # It's possibly fixable 22.32.28 # i have a question... if there's no .mod on the drive... it should just boot with the original firmware? 22.32.39 # LightGOd20: thats right 22.33.19 # midknight2k3: whats wrong with the ipod, is there some holy war between ipod and archos? 22.33.29 # Oh god 22.33.29 # so if it doesn't boot up i'm screwed... 22.34.36 # midknight2k3: humor me 22.34.42 # ok.. it just finished formatting.. 22.35.28 # same error 22.35.41 # Huh 22.35.48 # I would humor you 22.35.50 # the hdd just sits there clicking 22.35.51 # just hang on 22.35.54 # ok 22.36.00 # clicking!? 22.36.07 # Click, Clickclick, Click, Clickclick, Click, Clickclick, Click, Clickclick, Click, Clickclick, Click, Clickclick? 22.36.10 # thats bad 22.36.11 # Like that> 22.36.17 # That's very bad 22.36.23 # the disk is dead 22.36.42 # yea.. but when it's pluged into te computer it works just fine... 22.36.51 # hmm thats strange 22.36.55 # that's the odd part... 22.37.15 # it's not the HDD thats dead.. must be something else.. 22.37.34 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("Leaving") 22.37.35 # Jump for joy! 22.39.15 # ok 22.39.19 # archos FAQs 22.39.40 # "Why does my jukebox display HD ERROR upon startup?" 22.39.41 # " There are different reasons why it will display this error message. It can be due to low batteries, bad batteries or corrupted registry. The best way to fix this problem is try to troubleshoot step by step. First, be sure your batteries are fully charged. Then try replacing the batteries (NiMH) and charge it for at least about 8 hrs. If still unsuccessful, the Jukebox drive must be re-formatted. Be sure to create a backup as this procedure 22.39.42 # 22.39.42 DBUG Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 22.39.42 # 22.40.23 # indeed the batteries, thats seems logical 22.40.36 # Give it a charge 22.40.40 # emm.. i have some extra batteries here... 1.2 volts but 1200mah instead of 1500 22.40.54 # it's plugged in with the charger... 22.41.11 # Does it work? 22.41.33 # i mean.. if i'm workin with the DC line.. would it matter if the batteryes are dry? 22.41.48 # It could I dunno 22.41.57 # Try putting on archoses latest firmware 22.42.08 # 5.08 is the latest 22.42.15 # Re-do it 22.42.20 # ok 22.42.22 # put the MOd file on the hard drive 22.43.31 # well 22.43.34 # odd part now.. 22.43.45 # with my old batteries it works just fine.. 22.43.59 # So it's partly fixed? 22.44.09 # yeao 22.44.12 # yeap 22.44.17 # The firmware updating fixed it? 22.44.20 # good then 22.44.26 # now i'm gonna try to upgrade to rockbox.. 22.44.30 # Do so 22.44.39 # I suppose your old 1200's arent powerful enough 22.45.13 # no.. it's the other way arround 22.45.26 # aparentry the archos 1500 are dead 22.45.58 # have you let them charge for about 8 hours before first use? 22.46.03 # yeap 22.46.37 # Awhile 22.46.41 # i'm gonna charge them some more now.. 22.47.13 # well 22.47.17 # thanks a lot... 22.47.25 # now it works just fine.. 22.47.55 # with the rockbox firmware :) 22.48.00 Join [keno] [0] (marklar2@80.178.36.66.forward.012.net.il) 22.48.36 # if you ever need some help with the spanish version.. just ask.. i'll be glad to help.. 22.49.07 # do you know maxima btw? 22.49.45 # cool 22.49.50 # I did it! 22.49.59 # I fixed his Archos! Woooooo! 22.50.03 # I feel so important. 22.50.18 # did you also find your lecture? :) 22.50.25 # Yes 22.50.36 # where can i see it 22.50.41 # I just must upload it to one of my uploading sites and you can see 22.51.37 # well guys.. thanks a lot.... 22.51.40 # see ya later.. 22.52.09 Quit LightGOd20 ("�� I R c a p ��http://www.ircap.net ��") 22.52.24 # bye 22.52.59 # http://uploadingmisc.tripod.com/ipod-lecture.txt 22.53.04 # doulbe click it 22.55.00 Nick _seb_ is now known as seb-away (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 22.57.19 # so all the archos has going for it is just rockbox 22.57.28 # i have the player btw 22.57.29 # Fine 22.57.39 # and whats invert? 22.57.40 # Oh then get the recorder 22.57.48 # It's a much better option than an ipod 22.58.00 # Invert is where the screen is black and the text is green like the background 22.58.04 # It just reverses the display 22.58.10 # It's pretty cool 22.58.23 # But if you're going to upgrade MP3 players, I'd say a recorder 22.58.40 # It can record, but it can do about 1000X what the player can 22.59.10 # i'm not planning on bootlegging any music concerts right now :) 22.59.19 # Yay! 22.59.26 # So you don't need ANY upgrade 22.59.45 # no i dont need it, but i may want it 22.59.55 # no no no no no 23.00.02 # if you want it get the recorder 23.00.07 # ipod = last resort 23.00.26 # did apple do something bad do you? 23.00.32 Quit [keno] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.00.55 # No 23.01.21 # but you have to admit the achos is pretty damn ugly 23.01.25 # I just despise that outrageously "I'm expensive, slick and if someone can afford me then they're ULTRA COOL!" 23.01.29 # It's not too bad 23.01.41 # Like people LOOK at it when you're in a car with it in your pocket. 23.01.56 # yeah 23.02.08 # most people i know are still blown away by the fact that i've got 3000+ songs in my pocket 23.02.13 # to hell with how it looks 23.02.28 # i am wondering if there is any difference in sound quality though 23.02.58 # i'd say yes 23.03.03 # barely but yees 23.03.14 # ipod uses a phenomenal 60MW amp 23.03.18 # Archos can compare 23.03.34 # it would mostly depend on the headphones 23.03.38 # not really 23.03.42 # wait 23.03.45 # yes it does! 23.03.47 # heh 23.03.53 # you have to have, uh, 5000 dollar headphones 23.03.57 # to take advantage of it 23.04.02 # so you see Archos is superior 23.04.05 # :p 23.04.09 # and the ones that came with the archos are extremely crappy 23.04.18 # OH you USE them? 23.04.19 # the ones that come with everything are crappy 23.04.25 # Anything included with anything is CRAP 23.04.27 # i've had to buy some sony ones 23.04.33 # Really? 23.04.37 # What a coincidence 23.04.48 # Everyone I know uses something other than the included ones 23.04.50 # i'm gonna get some sennheiser HD280Pro's eventualy 23.04.58 #