--- Log for 23.05.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 9 days and 2 hours ago 00.01.18 Join awy[baer] [0] (~erklaerba@pD9EB7946.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.18.43 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 00.32.33 Join awy[baer]_ [0] (~erklaerba@pD9EB7946.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.32.33 Quit awy[baer] (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.44.37 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@ACC32264.ipt.aol.com) 00.45.13 Quit diddystar5 (Client Quit) 00.58.26 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC8C1D81.ipt.aol.com) 00.58.31 # yay 00.58.37 # hello 01.00.10 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.00.33 # goodbye to you too 01.00.51 # Who here has a player/studio model/ 01.03.01 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) 01.03.04 # hiiiiiiiiiiii 01.03.30 # lo bob 01.03.44 # you have a player or studio model? 01.03.51 # it's not bob it's BoD !! 01.04.02 # i have a recorder 01.04.22 # well 01.04.36 # i said bob because of weebl and bob 01.04.46 # weebl always says hi to bob by saying "lo bob" 01.04.47 # weeblkokoi? 01.05.03 # www.weebl.jolt.co.uk 01.05.08 # the best flash cartoon ever 01.05.14 # oh .. 01.05.32 # "lo bob. you have pie?" 01.06.51 # right 01.06.51 Nick seb-sleep is now known as _seb_ (Sean@bgp420584bgs.union01.nj.comcast.net) 01.07.05 # no 01.07.09 # thats what weebl says 01.07.22 # they're eggs with eyes that rock and are obsessed with pie. 01.10.32 # strange! 01.11.24 # as weebl says, how rare!" 01.11.31 # how rare 01.12.35 # i love donkey, donkey dont lie, i love donkey almost as much as pie 01.13.04 # so 01.13.08 # by the way 01.13.14 # WHAT'SUP ? 01.13.24 # NOTHIN MUCH 01.13.32 # WHAT?!! 01.13.40 # I SAID NOTHIN MUCH!! 01.13.50 # WHAT DID YOU DO TODAY 01.14.03 # I... I ACTUALLY.... 01.14.05 # i dont know 01.14.16 # HOW MANY FEATURE REQUESTS DID YOU SUBMIT TODAY ? 01.14.25 # :)) 01.14.32 # none 01.14.42 # how many did i submit ever? 1 01.14.49 # really? 01.14.55 # yeah 01.14.59 # that was a-b playback 01.15.06 # a-b? 01.15.14 # oh boy 01.15.31 # you press a button once then again at another point in a song and it loops that section 01.16.04 # oh right! 01.16.07 # like press F3 at 0:35 in a song and F3 again at 0:45 in a song and it plays the ten seconds between 35 and 45 over and over again 01.16.10 # that's a good request actually 01.16.16 # yeah 01.16.19 # its all i really want 01.16.26 # whats BMP2RB do you know? 01.17.05 # i guess it's a way to put a custom logo in rockbox 01.17.25 # i like that 01.17.27 # i want one 01.17.32 # i wanna HOT HOT pie 01.18.25 # :)) 01.18.30 # but of course 01.18.36 # i have no idea how to use it 01.18.46 # i want to 01.18.49 # how do i 01.18.55 # CRAP! I wish LinusN was here! 01.21.23 # ftp://JRAF.org/incoming/matrix.mpe 01.22.15 # what that 01.23.10 # look at it 01.23.22 # o hang on 01.23.25 # o=ok 01.23.29 # ok 01.27.36 # i have to save it to my hard drive so hang on 01.27.45 # ie wants to stream it but 56k wont do that 01.28.42 # yeah no don't stream it! 01.29.10 # i wont 01.29.13 # lol 01.30.54 # 25% complere 01.31.07 # matrix eh i wonder what it could be 01.31.14 # :))))) 01.31.18 # 38% 01.31.24 # 43% 01.31.29 # 47% 01.31.37 # 51% 01.31.45 # 55% 01.31.55 # 59% 01.32.05 # 64% 01.32.13 # 68% 01.32.22 # 72% 01.32.28 # i guess 76 next 01.32.31 # 77% 01.32.40 # 81% 01.32.49 # 85% 01.32.52 # sigh 01.32.58 # 90% 01.33.06 # 94% 01.33.15 # 98% 01.33.18 # done 01.33.29 # time to view 01.34.18 # hahahaha 01.34.21 # :))))))))))) 01.34.29 # is it fun or what!!!!!! 01.34.31 # a commercial? 01.34.34 # yes! 01.34.36 # that looooks funnn 01.34.39 # lol 01.34.42 # a commercial 01.35.00 # for some ballet 01.35.15 # hahahaha 01.35.24 # he broke the table 01.35.28 # yes:))))) 01.35.33 # they are too fun 01.35.34 # you on 56k? 01.36.23 # no 512 01.36.24 # adsl 01.36.43 # huh 01.36.47 # lol you know 01.37.08 # that reminds me that one time rickandrak played beer bottle pool 01.37.13 # http://www.rickandrak.com/beerbottlepool.mpg 01.37.27 # sort of different but similar all the same 01.38.11 # ok 5% 01.38.23 # lol 01.39.06 # cancel that 01.39.17 # why 01.39.24 # its too big and off point 01.39.32 # too late :) 01.39.33 # a better idea is when 01.39.34 # http://www.rickandrak.com/stupidlight.mpg 01.40.06 # shoooot 01.40.16 # i cant believe ricks birthday is tomorrow 01.40.28 # i have to do some video editing for at least a little present or soemthing 01.41.36 # rick ? 01.41.48 # the main guy 01.41.54 # the director of the insanity 01.42.01 # check out rickandrak.com for a better idea 01.42.10 # which im sure you already have 01.44.19 # :) 01.44.24 # no i didn't 01.44.29 # oh well 01.44.35 # ill just ell you 01.44.41 # its all smashing stuff and being nuts 01.45.10 # mostly tv abuse and lightbulb shenanigans 01.46.22 # :)))))))) 01.46.42 # the beer pool stuff is fun !! 01.47.03 # yeah wooooo 01.47.26 # if you like craziness i have the ultimate 01.47.26 # its 20mb but its the best quality crazyness 01.47.40 # and you MUST NOT STREAM IT 01.47.42 # you have to download it 01.47.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.47.48 # http://www.rickandrak.com/johndeer.wmv 01.47.56 # best stuff ever 01.48.48 # ok 01.48.53 # lol 01.49.02 # not for the easily nauseous 01.49.17 # it's sick and it's crazy 01.49.21 # but i guess its good 01.51.20 # they remind me jackass 01.51.29 # loo 01.51.35 # that's the word i was looking for 01.51.59 # but the deer thing, if you find people playing with dead deers offensive you shouldnt watch it 01.52.46 # :)) 01.53.02 # i swear 01.53.15 # id dint think it was going to be that odd but i felt odd at the end 01.59.43 # ok THAT was gore 02.00.08 # you say you loved it? 02.00.36 # :)) well 02.00.36 # it was fun 02.00.41 # but gord 02.00.42 # gore 02.01.04 # ANYWAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 02.01.08 # i have to go to bed now 02.01.15 # crud 02.01.16 # bye 02.01.29 # bod 02.01.29 # bye! 02.01.32 # see you 02.01.33 # later 02.01.34 # bye 02.01.35 # :) 02.01.36 # seeya 02.01.38 # all that 02.01.40 Quit BoD[] ("DODO") 02.01.41 # yadda yaddda 02.01.55 # lemme know if you get back jet 02.34.46 Quit midknight2k3 () 02.46.08 Quit Jet8810 ("Client exiting") 03.01.27 # * Stevie[FP] is away [gone] [KS-MsgLog Off] 03.23.06 Join REBELinBLUE [0] (Stephen@ppp-0-8.bris-a-1.access.uk.tiscali.com) 03.23.13 # hey all 03.27.31 # hello 03.30.11 Quit REBELinBLUE (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.47.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.52.28 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC8C1D81.ipt.aol.com) 04.52.36 # hehheheheh 04.52.40 # that movie is so funny 05.09.26 Join ken0 [0] (marklar2@80.178.44.112.forward.012.net.il) 05.09.27 Quit [keno] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.12.31 Quit midknight2k3 () 05.22.50 Quit kassoulet (Remote closed the connection) 05.47.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.44.21 Join awy[baer] [0] (~erklaerba@pD950EBDC.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.01.35 Quit awy[baer]_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.10.45 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 07.25.35 Join jimmydu3 [0] (jimmydu3@cae31-222-015.sc.rr.com) 07.33.27 # hey, i was wondering if anyone could tell me why i have no option to QUEUE files anymore....it just disappeared as an option 07.33.48 # i;m using the most current firmware (CVS) 07.35.47 # nevermind 07.35.49 Quit jimmydu3 ("Leaving") 07.47.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.20.53 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@193.180.246.67) 08.41.51 Join Bagder [241] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) 08.44.24 Quit ken0 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.53.31 Join hardeep_ [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 08.53.44 Quit hardeep_ (Client Quit) 08.54.02 Quit hardeep ("BitchX-1.0c19 -- just do it.") 08.54.49 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 09.01.41 Join [keno] [0] (marklar2@80.178.45.111.forward.012.net.il) 09.30.23 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-138-88-171-170.res.east.verizon.net) 09.30.45 # Hello 09.31.05 # hi 09.32.25 # hardeep, you're ouvne of the developers? 09.32.40 # yes 09.33.52 # what portions of the code is yours? 09.34.37 # :D 09.34.41 # Yay for Hardeep! 09.34.46 # \o/ Hardeep \O/ 09.35.11 # hardeep is one of the few with insights in the inner mp3 workings 09.35.22 # \o/ Bagder \o/ 09.35.31 # morning dwihno 09.35.32 # Any of you guys got any UPS shipping experience? 09.35.38 # It's such a great morning! :) 09.35.54 # (unless we start to talk about the sucky weather) ;) 09.36.08 # its a sunny morning here 09.36.13 # and he has a fan club 09.36.30 # heh 09.36.32 # :) 09.36.46 # www.hardeepfanclub.com ! 09.36.49 # :-P 09.37.36 # You can find anything onna internet 09.38.18 # Pardon me if I typo or type slow, I'm on my handheld. 09.38.49 # luckily, you won't find that on the internet =) 09.39.01 # dwihno: i've had a lot of experience with UPS 09.40.04 # bagder, I've re-done the id3 diffs 09.40.15 # I noticed the patch 09.40.25 # hardeep: at what time of day do they usually deliver? 09.40.36 # morn 09.40.36 # earHurts: I'll have a look at it later today 09.41.02 # No hurry. 09.42.29 # bagder, you had mentioned 80GB hdds? What manufacturers? 09.42.34 # dwihno: there's no specific time... anywhere from 9-5. Usually they're fairly consistent day to day 09.43.08 # dwihno: but you need to be around the first time to figure out what time to expect them next 09.43.12 # hardeep: mkay... how about stuff getting stopped at the import scan? 09.43.16 # dwihno, you waiting for a good toy? 09.43.21 # earHurts: hitachi/IBM I believe 09.43.29 # earHurts: Yeah! TOYS! :D 09.43.30 # http://www.bixnet.com/802innohadr.html 09.43.31 # I love toys! 09.43.35 # I'll never grow up! :) 09.44.06 # dwihno: they always need to attempt a delivery at least once before you can have it stopped 09.45.12 # I'm starting to wonder if I'll get the stuff today already 09.45.15 # How useful is the Fujitsu low noise option? 09.45.21 # (it was shipped from the UK last night and is in the country now) 09.45.32 # dwihno: didn't you get a tracking number? 09.45.41 # dwihno: they're online tracking is very good 09.45.47 # at least in the US 09.46.00 # hardeep: Yeah, I'm tracking it... check http://dw.lahma.net/kartan.png for a "travel map" :-) 09.46.17 # dwihno, can I ask what it is? 09.46.44 # earHurts: just a gaming accessory (no, not a mod chip) 09.47.11 # cool. 09.47.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.48.27 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 09.48.30 # 5/GB. hmm. 09.48.50 # Since UK are members of the EU, I should not have to pay any stupid extra fees? 09.50.15 # versus 3/GB with low noise. 09.51.54 # dwihno: correct 09.52.15 # no extra VAT or customs fees etc 09.52.49 # that's a reason I order from Amazon's UK site 09.54.04 # yay 09.54.11 # so stuff should not fastna in the tull, either? 09.54.33 # nope, no customs stuff within EU 09.55.02 # the first good thing about being a member of the union ;) 09.59.55 # If only you'd kept Lasy Thatcher in power ;) 10.00.05 # er, LaDy 10.00.48 # $276 for the 80GB at googlegear 10.01.04 # My 60GB is still more than sufficient... 10.01.29 # 36 gigs left ;-) 10.01.45 # I jnoined emusic.com, and filled up 20 in six months 10.01.53 # emusic.com ? 10.01.59 # can you eat it? 10.02.25 # Yeah, $10/month, all you can download 10.03.00 # but now it's in groups of 35 tracks, which is annoying. 10.03.41 # Good selection of classical +& folk 10.05.06 # ah 10.05.35 # so I figure I'll fill 20GB in 6 months or less 10.06.16 # So with 60 8'll have to upgrade to 120 in a year. 10.07.18 # Do you think there will be 120GB 2.5" disks in a year? 10.07.33 # Probably 10.08.15 # Rockbox didn't support FMN when I bought my Archos, but I had faith in Linus 10.08.28 # ;) 10.08.28 # hehe 10.08.35 # he's a rock 10.08.45 # heehee 10.08.46 # with a box 10.08.53 # ugh 10.09.33 # In English, box can be vulgar slang for vagina 10.10.00 # oh 10.10.02 # hehe 10.10.07 # didn't know that 10.10.33 # I got a Zaurus 5600 on the assumption that the opie guys will make a nbetter replacement for the OS 10.11.03 # did they? 10.11.20 # Not yet. ;) 10.11.39 # But I have faith, see. 10.12.24 # Look how much nbetter Rockbox is than the Archos. 10.13.32 # In 5 years I'll have a 500GB hdd in my archos. 10.15.04 # I doubt that 10.15.17 # 128GB is a magic border 10.15.28 # Why? 10.15.29 # for the ATA 10.16.04 # sizeof offset? 10.16.08 # Then you need ATA133 10.16.21 # yeps 10.16.32 # or at least something better than the one in the archos 10.16.34 # All you ATA133 are belong to me ME ME ME ! :) 10.16.46 # Well, 128GB should be enough for everyone ;) 10.16.53 # I rememnber when 2 floppies was leading edge. 10.17.12 # So I thought 10.17.24 # I remember experiencing a HD upgrade from 20 to 35 megs... Damn, that was much! :) 10.17.43 # When I bought nmy pc's 120 GB 10.18.11 # Now I need another 10.18.44 # Has anyone here used the fujitsu with low noise hdd 10.18.57 # ? 10.18.59 # someone on the list mentioned one 10.19.36 # German email address, iirc. 10.20.54 # I don't really notice the noise from the standard archos. Do you? 10.21.32 # dwihno what nbrand is your 60? 10.23.05 # Any particular features I need to look for in an hdd for the Archos? 10.23.12 # low power 10.25.03 # what power consumption should I look for? 10.25.49 # I don't know really, sorry 10.27.09 # I suppose whatever the hitachi the archos uses has will do 10.27.42 # yes, it would work as a comparison 10.28.10 # heehee! "uses has will do" is actually grammatical English. 10.28.41 # recursive structures. 10.38.45 # the weekly digest mailed away 10.41.18 # Do you recall that settings patch that showed the value being set in the same screen as the settings themselves? 10.41.35 # yes 10.42.15 # Any thought to making that official? 10.42.29 # the only problem with it was in how the code worked 10.42.36 # we all liked the look and the ui 10.42.59 # iirc it patched a lot of files. What are the other issues? 10.43.13 # it had some excessive typecasts between language ids and char pointers 10.43.47 # using a macro 10.44.12 # how so? 10.44.49 # well, the problem is not easily solved, but he wanted to all the places where we do "lang[id]" to pass in char pointers 10.45.00 # to allow a string OR a lang id to get passed in 10.45.04 # str( FOO ) is a char* 10.46.05 # Really, those functions should ONLY take lang ids, to make sure they're i18n'ed 10.46.16 # that's what I suggested too 10.46.38 # but apparently some places don't use ids today 10.47.13 # I had a patch that was in English, retrofitting it for lanng ids was a pain. I'd have prefferred a comnpiler error early on. 10.48.01 # Stevie[FP]: here? 10.48.27 # I believe Stevie[FP] is the man 10.48.29 # What 8 want is explicit support for lists within the lang files 10.48.40 # s/8/I 10.49.05 # I wouldn't mind that 10.49.32 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: shaken, not stirred") 10.49.52 # It would mean a lot few local srrays to map lang ids to strings 10.50.16 # which means smaller, less error prone code. 10.51.10 # How would we specify this in the lang files? 10.51.31 Quit awy[baer] ("There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.") 10.52.17 # hm 10.52.48 # probably something rather simple 10.53.04 # like having a 'list: [name]-[num]" thing or something 10.53.10 # I think some indicator that an entry was a list, 10.53.31 # 'name' being the name of the list it belongs to, and num being the number in the list 10.53.47 # How about makinng the number implicit? 10.54.08 # and just have the order in the english one decide? well, yes that could work indeed 10.54.12 # that.s bnetter for the English, less easy for xlaters. 10.54.30 # the translaters wouldn't need to worry about the order in most cases anyway 10.54.46 # WHAT? 10.54.56 # Surw they would 10.55.17 # no, the english one would set the order, the others could have them in any order they like 10.55.29 # it would use the english order in the output 10.55.54 # But how would they xlaters indicate which translation was which? 10.56.04 # like today 10.56.19 # the list: is an additional thing 10.56.29 # oh, ok 10.56.45 # we could even generate some extra defines for the lists, like size of the list etc 10.56.53 # that just reorders the enties 10.57.12 # yeah, I do want a define for the count 10.57.19 # hey 10.57.30 # if we want to, we could support multiple list: per entry 10.57.38 # hm 10.57.41 # no 10.57.45 # that would complicate things 10.58.06 # the lang thing is in perl? 10.58.10 # yes 10.58.39 # hnmm. Ok, I could painfully do this. 10.59.43 # we'd have to ensure no entry tried to nbe added to 10.59.55 # > 1 list 11.00.00 Join awy[baer] [0] (~erklaerba@pD950EBDC.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.01.21 # It's great to be able to irc while soaking my feet in the bathtub 11.01.25 # and we still have a problem if anyone decides to remove an entry 11.01.27 Join Casper [0] (~jirc@adsl-218-53.cybernet.ch) 11.01.35 # in the middle of a list 11.01.42 # hello 11.01.47 # hi Casper 11.02.09 # I'm have some truble 11.02.15 # then they get an empty string until they change the list 11.02.30 # hi casper 11.02.36 # Casper: with rockbox? 11.02.39 # Hi hurts 11.03.10 # don't know exactly. I'm using rockbox CVS 030521 11.03.24 # and? 11.03.33 # I cant connect my JBFM to my win XP PC's 11.03.45 # hehe 11.03.52 # xp users are doomed 11.04.21 # Maybe, but It used to work before... 11.04.35 # no idea, I use w2k 11.04.42 # check the list archives this month, it is FULL with people having problems with XP: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/ 11.05.30 # Casper: if you plug it in before you start your archos, rockbox won't start and then you know it isn't a rockbox problem 11.05.36 # Ok then. I'll try it on a W2K machine as well. But I don't think it will work. Bec 11.06.13 Quit awy[baer] (Remote closed the connection) 11.06.27 # yea, But how am I going to remoove rockbox from my jukebox, before I send it back to my distributor 11.06.59 # well, if you can't connect to USB anywhre, then the distributor won't be able to either ;-) 11.07.09 # w2k requires a driver, tppaldr works nbest 11.07.19 # otherwise I don't know unless you rip out the disk and insert it somewhere else 11.07.30 # But He will be able to start the JB and see the Rockbox Frimware running 11.07.30 Join awy[baer] [0] (~erklaerba@pD950EBDC.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.08.13 # installing rockbox does make w2k change the drivers "found new hardware" 11.08.26 # it does? 11.08.34 # Ok, I go and try it on W2K 11.08.36 # Did for me 11.09.21 # NBoth drivers are on the archos cd 11.09.54 # casper, try installing another driver manually 11.10.24 # Casper: did you install any drivers? 11.10.37 # my comnputer+->drivers->install, etc. 11.13.31 Quit awy[baer] (Remote closed the connection) 11.13.34 # It realy seems to be a XP problem. It worked well on a WinME machine. Didn't find a W2K machine right away 11.14.34 # Ok I'll try to install the archos driver manualy 11.15.03 # some people report better success using the original xp driver 11.15.45 # I used to do it without any driver installation till now. Just plugging the thing in. It used to work fine till today 11.15.59 # ok 11.16.01 #