--- Log for 28.05.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 14 days and 2 hours ago 00.00.07 # it is full of errors 00.00.10 # it looks like MD0, 00.00.11 # oh 00.00.16 # ok 00.00.23 # <[IDC]Dragon> The schematic has some bugs (not complainig in any way) 00.00.30 # if he has MD0, MD1, MD2 inverted 00.00.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes, indeed. 00.00.42 # i.e. ones drawn as tied to VCC are tied to ground, and vice versa 00.00.51 # then things make a LOT more sense 00.00.53 Nick alexandre is now known as _aLF (~alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-3-5.w80-14.abo.wanadoo.fr) 00.00.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> That confused me, too. 00.01.08 # so he does have them backwards? 00.01.43 # <_aLF> LinusN> I started to cut my patch about radio 00.01.55 # ? 00.02.14 # <_aLF> to add sensitivity, force mono 00.02.25 # <_aLF> update presets 00.02.28 # <_aLF> record 00.02.42 # he should have made them .PNG files so we could edit them :P 00.02.59 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 00.03.03 # does the sensitivity setting do any good for you? 00.03.05 # 74hc573 00.03.06 # mh 00.03.22 # 8-bit latch 00.03.23 # Stevie[FP]: he should have used Eagle 00.03.31 # <_aLF> LinusN> It depends 00.03.33 # I don't have anything that can do eagle :P 00.03.40 # surely you can convert the pdf to png 00.03.44 # well, use Eagle 00.03.53 # <_aLF> (but often not) 00.05.17 # LinusN: do you have any idea what is at 0x04000000? 00.08.43 # on the recorder, it is used for the parallel interface to the MAS 00.08.52 # for recording 00.09.30 # on the Player, i don't know 00.09.42 # or, don't remember 00.09.45 # oh, OK 00.10.01 # so when we're pulling stuff from the MAS 00.10.06 # we pull it from 0x04000000 00.11.49 Quit mbr (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.11.49 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.11.49 Quit Hadaka (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.15.56 # Stevie[FP]: yes 00.17.46 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.17.46 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 00.17.46 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 00.18.01 # wtf is CS0 being used for? 00.18.34 # woah, this is freaky 00.20.48 # Stevie[FP]: i don't think CS0 is used as a chip select 00.21.14 # it goes to the IDE interface according to the schematics 00.21.43 # i'm taking this from memory of course 00.21.58 # Stevie[FP]: if you have the schematics, why do you ask? 00.22.13 # because they're not correct in all cases 00.22.15 # :P 00.23.07 # are you sure that the CS0 and CS1 you see are not ATA signals? 00.25.08 # * LinusN picks up the schematics to verify 00.25.33 # I have absolutely no idea. 00.25.41 # the schematics aren't clear 00.25.57 # since I have no knowledge of anything ATA-related 00.25.59 # on the ATA side i think they are 00.26.16 # so nothing's at 0x08000000? 00.26.42 # from what i can remember, no 00.26.58 # Stevie[FP]: what are you looking for? 00.27.26 # to find out what's at each prefix (0x00-0x0F) 00.27.32 # 0x00 is the internal ROM, 0x0F is the internal RAM 00.27.40 # 0x02 is the external ROM, 0x09 is the external DRAM 00.27.50 # 0x05 is the on-chip peripherals 00.27.53 # what makes you think that every CS pin is used for address decoding? 00.28.01 # Nothing 00.28.14 # in fact, CS4-CS7 appear to be used for other stuff 00.28.55 # CS3 is needed for CASL to byte-access DRAM 00.29.11 # I think 00.31.33 Quit Hadaka (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.31.33 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.31.33 Quit mbr (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.32.16 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.32.16 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 00.32.16 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 00.36.44 Quit _aLF ("bye") 00.37.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> Linus, you got mail? 00.44.33 # yes 00.45.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> How do you like it? 00.45.41 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) 00.46.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> I still haven't figured out how to operate this tool, am trying to simulate it. 00.47.25 # hi! 00.47.26 # like it? have you done anything else except disassemble it? 00.47.45 # what tool is this? 00.47.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> That was hard work already! 00.48.08 # which tool did you use? 00.48.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> Steve: the onboard flash tool that is briefly loaded before the Archos firmware. 00.48.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> Linus: for disassembly? 00.48.47 # what info do you have on it thus far? 00.49.12 # [IDC]Dragon: yes 00.49.26 # LinusN: where's the font that's used for the simulator for Players? 00.49.41 # i don't know 00.49.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> I found an SH disassembler I liked a bit more than the one from our tool dir. 00.50.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> It was a bit more clever to find constants and made that vector table. 00.50.55 # Stevie[FP]: uisimulator/common/ 00.51.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> However, sometimes it omitted the @ for indirect loads, so I don't like it too much any more. 00.51.23 # Bagder: ty 00.51.42 # blah, I hate doing graphics 00.51.53 # time to reboot into linux 00.51.57 # cu in a few 00.52.00 Part LinusN 00.52.01 # cya 00.52.10 # going from console to graphics in a program makes things so much more complex =/ 00.56.11 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 01.07.55 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 01.11.21 # wtf 01.11.44 # is the freaking sh-elf-gcc asm() format declared anywhere? 01.13.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> Goodnight everybody, I'll hit the sack. 01.13.44 Quit [IDC]Dragon ("Leaving") 01.33.02 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.33.06 # Zagor: around? 01.33.59 # prolly not 01.37.54 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 01.38.24 # damn, i forgot i had a new monitor 01.38.42 # hardeep: i few minutes more, yes 01.38.45 # some XF86Config editing... 01.39.35 # Zagor: i just had a simple optimization for fat_seek and wanted your thoughts... (http://hardeeps.freeshell.org/patches/seek_optimize.diff) 01.40.01 # linus or zagor 01.40.07 # basically start the seek at last clusternum if possible 01.40.07 # Stevie[FP]: yes? 01.40.21 # wheres the info documenting the 'asm' handling for sh-elf-gcc? 01.40.30 # lcd_write() uses a "z" construct that's not documented anywhere 01.40.38 # * Stevie[FP] kicks the dorks who assume everybodys got an x86 01.40.52 # Stevie[FP]: unfortunately, there is little documentation on that 01.41.00 # well somebody had to know something 01.41.56 # who wrote the lcd code? 01.44.27 # i think alan korr wrote the first version 01.44.43 # are we still on the first version? 01.46.01 # no, i modified it 01.46.10 # oh 01.46.15 # what did you modify? 01.46.28 # hardeep: looks ok, but i'm a bit tired. will look closer tomorrow. 01.47.33 # okay 01.48.24 # Stevie[FP]: not much at all, just a few constants, as far as i can see 01.49.34 # ok 01.50.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.56.46 # i'm off to bed 01.56.50 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 02.02.08 # blah 02.02.16 # we wouldn't happen to have an e-mail address handy for mr Korr, would we? 02.05.32 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.06.47 # i don't have one, in fact, i haven't seen him around for ages 02.07.08 # indeed 02.07.22 # only thing google has is a single mail to the mailing list 02.08.32 # * Stevie[FP] is away [gone] [KS-MsgLog Off] 02.08.35 # I hate black magic >:( 02.37.47 # music is colorless and odorless 02.44.28 # heh 02.44.32 # looks like mtv2 is using aalib 02.44.55 # bunch of ascii images and video 02.46.23 # where 02.46.25 # when 02.46.26 # how 03.01.22 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-138-88-72-98.res.east.verizon.net) 03.01.46 # ello? 03.01.46 Quit BoD[] (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.01.49 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) 03.02.52 # has anyone nbuilt a sinmulator nbuild under cugwinnnn 03.03.25 # earHurts: I have 03.05.20 # what's the nmagic, hardeep? 03.06.20 # i don't remember having to do anything special... 03.11.45 # earHurts: make sure you select X11 as the simulated version 03.12.03 # and install the Xfree86-prog package which contains all the headers 03.17.14 # just tried with latest cvs, works great 03.26.43 # thanks 03.26.54 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection) 03.34.59 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 03.48.44 Part LinusN 03.50.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.57.20 Join Stevie-O [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inikj3.dialup.mindspring.com) 04.50.47 Quit BoD[] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.50.47 Quit Stevie-O (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.51.41 Join Bryant [0] (~Twogluon@adsl-68-22-227-26.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) 04.54.29 # is anyone here? 04.55.00 # i'm having some problems getting windows xp to recognize my archos recorder 20 05.09.45 Quit hardeep ("[BX] For a good time, call 1-900-4BitchX") 05.31.26 Join Stevie-O [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inilla.dialup.mindspring.com) 05.50.10 Quit Bryant (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.50.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.09.57 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.86.forward.012.net.il) 06.18.44 Join OneCluedCoder [0] (whatsit2u@user-2ininh0.dialup.mindspring.com) 06.27.04 Join diensthunds [0] (~otto@65.134.242.255) 06.29.03 Part diensthunds 06.31.39 Join Bryant [0] (~Twogluon@adsl-68-22-227-26.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) 06.31.44 # anyone here? 06.41.16 Quit Stevie-O (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.49.47 # ok, maybe later todya 06.49.48 # today 06.53.08 # hola 06.53.13 Nick OneCluedCoder is now known as Stevie-O (whatsit2u@user-2ininh0.dialup.mindspring.com) 07.01.27 # hey 07.01.28 # you there? 07.01.46 # i'm trying to get windows xp to recognize my recorder 07.07.26 # ew, xp 07.07.35 # whats the problem? 07.07.47 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 07.08.12 # * Stevie-O notes that we should bill archos for their tech support 07.15.35 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@ip68-102-139-109.ks.ok.cox.net) 07.16.57 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 07.18.16 # sorry 07.18.25 # um, i will come back when i'm less occupied 07.27.49 Join Guest [0] (jirc@12-233-39-23.client.attbi.com) 07.28.09 # yo i need help i got the patch tool but the tutorial isn't very thorough on applying the patch 07.28.43 # i go into the folder for patch 07.28.46 # USING windows 07.28.56 # the tutorial flattens from there 07.29.13 # just says type patch > patchfile command promt says no work 07.35.15 Quit Guest ("Leaving") 07.50.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.05.27 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.23.40 Quit Bryant (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.24.08 Quit Stevie-O (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08.33.05 Join Jello [0] (jello_eate@12-213-120-160.client.attbi.com) 08.33.12 # hey hey 08.33.14 # what's up all 08.33.24 Nick Jello is now known as Jello-Eater (jello_eate@12-213-120-160.client.attbi.com) 08.33.39 # anyone awake? 08.34.03 # depends on your definition of awake... =) 08.34.18 # hehe 08.34.45 # I have a jukebox studio 10 can i get anything cool for it 08.34.51 # i have normal rockbox 08.35.04 # can i put any games or change any leds colors or something 08.35.40 # whatever's already in rockbox is all you get currently... the games/demos are only for the recorder models 08.35.53 # :'( 08.36.33 # if you have ideas for player games, certainly post them as feature requests (or, even better, implement them!) 08.37.09 # my linux skills aren't to. shall we say good 08.37.10 # ha 08.37.33 # you don't need to use linux to work on rockbox 08.37.43 # i do the majority of my development on windows using cygwun 08.37.49 # er cygwin 08.38.14 # really 08.40.47 # hooray for cygwin 08.43.56 # ? 08.44.01 # home/rockbox 08.44.08 # where is that in the cygwin folder? 08.44.34 # in home/rockbox, I think :) 08.44.42 # Jello-Eater: you need to download the rockbox source from cvs 08.44.56 # \o/ CVS \o/ 08.45.00 # er from sourceforge using cvs 08.45.10 # see: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/firsttime.html 08.45.28 # i am reading that 08.53.49 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.54.04 # heya Bagder 08.54.09 # hi 08.57.59 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp86.contactor.se) 08.58.32 # morning mats 08.59.30 # morning 09.02.19 # crappy bostream can't deliver adsl to my house 09.02.45 # I have to cancel it when I move 09.03.47 # Bagder: you'll have to do with regular burktelefon-ADSL ;-) 09.03.59 # yeah 09.04.08 # if I'm lucky I can get the telia 2mbit one 09.04.45 # having to cut down on speed is never confortable 09.11.11 # morning 09.14.27 Join Wild_Bill [0] (~Wild@adsl-64-217-25-89.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) 09.16.36 Part Wild_Bill 09.42.13 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-24-216.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 09.43.22 Quit Jello-Eater ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.71 :: www.XLhost.de )") 09.43.24 Quit adi|home (Killed (NickServ (Nickname Enforcement))) 09.43.39 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-24-216.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 09.44.25 Quit adiamas (Killed (NickServ (Nickname Enforcement))) 09.50.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.55.59 Join awy[baer] [0] (~erklaerba@pD9EB72C0.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.56.48 Quit hardeep ("[BX] You can breathe without BitchX, but I wouldn't recommend it") 10.14.06 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 10.20.12 # that was a nice mail 10.20.20 # yes 10.28.51 # :-) ? 10.30.26 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBB8CFC.ipt.aol.com) 10.36.15 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 10.36.55 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBB8CFC.ipt.aol.com) 10.38.45 # * Bagder stired up the yahoo forum 10.39.37 # ((yawm)) 10.39.49 # Stir up the bass! 10.40.00 # :-P 10.40.15 # (im still half asleep_ 10.42.07 Join pyvasene [0] (~pyvasene@62.4.7.1) 10.44.06 # hey! 10.44.21 # its now exactly one year since we started doing daily builds 10.44.24 # Hi!!!!!!! 10.44.33 # Hi Bagder!!! 10.44.40 # hi track 10.44.44 # * dwihno puts the "Rockbox celebration hat" on his head. 10.44.56 # heh 10.45.03 # (which is basically a stjärngossestrut from last year) ;) 10.45.10 # congrats on your daily builds thingy :-) 10.45.59 # 1.0 was released on june 2nd, so we're soon a year old with releases 10.46.40 # i remember version 1.0, was nowhere near as good as the Archos firmware........ 10.46.41 # ;-) 10.46.54 # it didn't work on recorders 10.47.14 # Nope 10.47.17 # It looked pretty though 10.47.23 # what was the very first rejected request?? 10.47.32 # Even if the fat driver was all fishy in the beginning ;) 10.47.52 # tracktheripper: browse the list sorted on close date ;-) 10.48.04 # where do I find it? 10.48.14 # i like to see the very first rejected request since this started 10.48.15 # :-) 10.48.24 # hang on 10.48.58 # thanks :-) 10.48.58 # :D 10.49.48 # a provided link will be fine ;-) 10.49.50 # the first ones weren't rejected, they were simply closed 10.50.06 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browse&group_id=44306&atid=439121 10.50.13 # cheers :-) 10.50.18 # select "closed" and sort by "close date" "ascending" 10.50.24 # okay 10.50.24 # :D 10.50.39 # there's no good way to see the rejected only though 10.51.13 # ohh okay 10.51.57 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 10.52.38 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBB8CFC.ipt.aol.com) 10.52.44 # yea just found it :-) 10.52.54 # at least there is no page devoted to me :-D 10.56.20 # heehee 10.56.23 # yea :-) 11.09.12 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 11.36.09 Quit tchan (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.36.09 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.36.25 Join awy[baer]_ [0] (~erklaerba@pD9E4D8CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.44.33 Quit awy[baer] (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11.50.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.00.10 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 12.02.50 Join Quelsaruk [20] (swordmaste@faerun.ugr.es) 12.03.17 # anyone knows a technopriest? 12.03.21 # :) 12.03.41 # * Bagder kneels in front of his higness 12.04.11 # Bagder: i have a stupid hd 12.04.38 # i can turn my jukebox on, and it boots up 12.04.43 # i can play music 12.04.51 # and record music 12.04.54 # i can queue 12.05.03 # i can do everything with it 12.05.05 # but... 12.05.11 # i can't plug it to the computer 12.05.30 # it doesn't spin up when plugged!! 12.05.48 # master/slave set right? 12.06.34 # i've plugged it 2 days ago and was right, i copied over 11 GB to it 12.06.39 # oh 12.06.54 # but i forgot to copy rockbox 12.08.14 # and now, i have to use archos firmware!! 12.08.45 # pain 12.09.22 # i know 12.09.40 # i've disassembled my jukebox, mounted the hd on my external case 12.09.42 # and nothing 12.09.55 # i can hear the drive trying to spin up and failing 12.10.15 # but still i can boot up the jukebox and work with it 12.10.19 # really weird 12.10.39 # any idea? 12.10.47 # nope 12.12.10 # maybe cry? 12.13.17 # use a big hammer? ;-) 12.14.06 NHeal (timeout) calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 12.15.12 # i used it yesterday, i'm searchign the Mjölner, that the best hammer in these cases ;) 12.24.34 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 12.37.38 # work :( 12.37.49 # ¿? 12.37.49 Quit elinenbe (" HydraIRC -> http://hydrairc.sf.net <- *I* use it, so it must be good!") 12.39.09 Join baz [0] (~baz@modem-3145.porcupine.dialup.pol.co.uk) 12.51.50 Quit |nsomniac (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.00.22 Quit baz (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 13.02.08 Join kuji_ [0] (~kuji@cuji.gotadsl.co.uk) 13.02.15 Part kuji_ 13.16.13 Quit Jet8810 ("Client exiting") 13.17.54 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|out (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 13.38.09 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@12-247-188-25.client.attbi.com) 13.40.39 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-138-88-72-98.res.east.verizon.net) 13.41.16 # is the uisimulator/ directory not in cvs? 13.41.47 # yups 13.41.50 # it's there 13.42.21 # but sometimes, anonymous cvs doesn't get all the files 13.42.40 # I've NEVER gotten it. 13.42.46 # strange 13.43.27 # I,m retrieving HEAD branch, should I use another? 13.44.05 # try to retrieve uisimulator alone.. just in case... 13.45.11 # I've been using win cvs; what,s the command line for that? 13.50.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.52.18 # please? 13.52.35 # i haven't used win cvs... 13.52.49 # i used cygwin and linux 13.53.13 # that,s ok. what command line would you use to get uisimulator? 14.00.09 # cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rockbox co uisimulator 14.00.19 # cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rockbox co rockbox gets everything 14.00.43 # sorry 14.00.48 # cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.rockbox.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rockbox co rockbox-devel 14.00.54 # :) 14.01.52 # I think I see the problem: the rockbox module doesn,t include the sim stuff 14.02.19 # I want rockbox-all or rockbox-devel 14.02.37 # rockbox-devel 14.02.39 # :) 14.02.47 # Unfortunately, sourceforge is giving me EOF 14.02.54 # try again 14.03.01 # that happens a lot of times 14.03.02 # :( 14.03.29 # working now on attempt 15 ;) 14.03.51 Quit awy[baer]_ (Remote closed the connection) 14.06.43 # crap. all gets alot of .njpgs. 14.06.58 # all gets the website also 14.07.10 # that's why i told you to use devel 14.07.12 # :P 14.07.27 # yeah, yeah ;) 14.22.20 # what's it mean when make prints Error 255? 14.23.46 # dunno 14.23.47 # :( 14.23.48 # sorry 14.23.52 # np 14.24.00 # what does it say? 14.26.39 # njust that. it seems to be trying to convnert a font or sonmething 14.27.23 # sorry, I'm not at the computer anymore 14.27.42 # so I xan't say exactly 14.29.42 # know anything abnout the m3u specification? 14.30.43 # :( 14.30.46 # not really 14.31.16 Nick Quelsaruk is now known as quel|lunch (swordmaste@faerun.ugr.es) 14.31.23 # lunch time 14.31.25 # :) 14.33.28 Quit Zagor|out ("Client exiting") 14.42.16 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.30.20 # * Stevie[FP] is back from [gone] [gone 13hrs 21mins 49secs] [KS] 15.38.53 Quit earHurts (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15.45.15 # anyone here? 15.50.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.55.25 Join jdarius [0] (~jdarius63@63.175.149.124) 15.55.59 # Hi...is there an option for turning off the backlight while charging the Archos Recorder? 15.59.10 # er 15.59.12 # yeah 15.59.48 # it's called 'backlight on while plugged in' under "General Settings/Display" 16.02.24 # I set "Backlight on when plugged" to "No," but it is still lit when charging. 16.02.30 # odd 16.02.37 # is it doing the Archos charge or the Rockbox charge? 16.02.49 # i.e. is it 'on'? 16.03.21 # No, it's always off when I plug it in to the adapter. 16.03.31 # then it's doing the Archos charge 16.03.37 # in which case, we have no control over that 16.03.57 # Ok...so I should charge it while on, or is it better to go with the Archos charge? 16.05.16 # do you have a Recorder or FM? 16.05.31 # Recorder. 16.05.50 # I don't have a Recorder (the FM has diff charging characteristics), but the guys here say that the Rockbox charging algorithm is better 16.06.05 # Ok...thanks. 16.06.16 # you need to set 'trickle charge' or 'deep discharge' 16.06.31 # depending on whether you're charging it overnight or using it while plugged in 16.06.48 # there's surely something on the website or in the manual 16.06.59 # I'll read up on those in the FAQ/manual...thanks again. 16.07.23 Quit jdarius () 16.34.20 # jummss 16.34.23 Nick quel|lunch is now known as quelsaruk (swordmaste@faerun.ugr.es) 16.34.36 # i need rockbox on rom URGENTLY 16.39.45 # ... 16.44.11 Join Naked [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 16.45.48 # Stevie[FP]: i can't spin up my hd when plugged to the computer 16.45.57 # so i can't install rockbox 16.46.07 # i formatted my hd, copied all my music 16.46.58 # but i forgot to copy rockbox 16.47.21 # and now, i can't copy anything from the pc 16.47.32 # so i have to use Archos v1.15 16.47.34 # :( 16.47.42 # and it's really anoying 16.47.48 # why can't you spin up your hd when plugged into the computer? 16.48.18 # dunno 16.48.22 # my hd is stupid 16.48.45 # i can boot my jukebox, play music.. record music... 16.48.48 # everything 16.48.56 # are you using linux? 16.49.04 # win2k 16.49.17 # i haven't tried linux.. btw... 16.49.45 # hm 16.49.53 # what does it do instead of spinning up? 16.50.01 # maybe your drivers screwed up 16.50.08 # also 16.50.17 # have you tried getting the hd to spin up, then plugging it into the PC? 16.50.30 # (by, like, doing a dir listing then plugging in the USB) 16.51.00 # it tries to spin up and makes a nasty noise like .. tik.. tik... tik... 16.51.30 # i've even disassembled the jukebox and plugged the drive to a external case 16.51.39 # hm 16.51.48 # that's what my FM does sometimes when I turn it off 16.51.53 # try this 16.52.02 # hold the OFF button for like 7 seconds 16.52.04 # a hammer? 16.52.07 # lmao 16.52.14 # no, the hammer comes later 16.52.18 # :) 16.52.37 # hold the OFF button for like 7 seconds 16.52.42 # that makes sure it's *really* off 16.52.57 # I once freaked out cuz Windows no longer recognized my Archos 16.53.06 # I even powered it off and powered it back on 16.53.13 # but when I ddi the full-OFF (7 seconds) thing 16.53.17 # then turned it back on 16.53.21 # it was happy again 16.55.43 # but... if i have changed my hf to a external case... 16.56.05 # and it's been without power suply for 12 hours... 16.56.19 # it should be powered off 16.56.27 # hm 16.56.28 # true. 16.56.34 # hmm 16.56.39 # I don't know what's wrong 16.59.17 Join bertrand` [0] (~Anyone@AAmiens-106-1-28-91.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.59.22 # 'lo 17.00.34 # neither me... and i'm really annoyed 17.01.23 Part bertrand` 17.06.06 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.06.16 # hi mecraw 17.06.26 # howdy, quelsaruk 17.08.04 Quit Hadaka (Connection refused) 17.08.04 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 17.10.04 # ah, found it 17.12.55 # ¿? 17.13.41 # the 8mb rolo bug 17.15.24 # ahhhhhhh 17.18.15 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-80-9-55.mia.bellsouth.net) 17.32.07 Quit pyvasene ("Client exiting") 17.41.33 Join awy[baer] [0] (~erklaerba@pD9E4D8CF.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.43.16 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 17.50.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.51.58 Quit ricII (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18.10.57 # * Stevie[FP] thinks of ways to speed up playlist handling 18.12.13 # 192kbps == 24000 bytes per second 18.12.34 # 80000 bytes == 3.33 seconds of audio 18.25.43 # does anyone know if we refresh the playlist after a usb cycle? 18.26.16 # refresh it how? 18.26.54 # well 18.26.58 # the playlist file is reread at every track change 18.27.08 # the *entire thing*? 18.27.18 # what's in memory is the pointer to a position in the playlist file 18.27.28 # what are these 'indices[]' then? 18.27.40 # the pointer's would be off if you change the playlist while in USB 18.27.46 # I agree 18.27.59 # but they're otherwise fixed 18.28.17 # play is stopped when in usb mode so it doesn't matter 18.28.28 # hm 18.28.30 # point 18.28.45 # but we don't really reread the entire playlist file at every song change 18.28.57 # like 18.29.14 # we have to read the playlist to get the filename 18.29.18 # but the line number indices 18.29.20 # no, we just seek to the position stored in the indices[] and read one line, i think 18.29.28 # ok 18.31.00 # you know what? 18.31.02 # I love UnxUtils 18.31.35 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 18.32.42 # is it required that all the files be absolute pathnames? 18.33.09 # ah, ok, it's not 18.33.21 # the file reading/writing code requires it 18.33.39 # so fopen() doesn't support the concept of a 'current directory'? 18.33.45 # no 18.33.54 # ok 18.55.11 Join _aLF [0] (alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-11-97.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.58.35 Join alexandre [0] (alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-17-45.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.58.41 # hi 19.04.23 # hello 19.17.59 Quit _aLF (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.27.44 Join Bryant [0] (~Twogluon@adsl-68-22-227-26.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) 19.27.53 # is anyone here? 19.29.40 # maybe 19.30.00 # do you think you could help me get windows to recognize my archos? 19.30.22 # what version of windows? 19.30.29 # he's using xp 19.30.31 # XP 19.30.42 # does XP cause problems? 19.31.02 # my XP box recognizes mine fine with no setup 19.31.15 # what does yours do? 19.31.27 # well ok, 19.31.56 # i had to reformat, because Xp wouldn't start up... giving a blue screen saying "page file in non paged area" or something like that 19.32.01 # before the reformat, it worked fine 19.32.14 # but after, NOTHING shows up when i run the preinstaller 19.32.18 # I fail to see why that would require a reformat 19.32.25 # a reinstall, yes, but not a reformat 19.32.26 # errr, when i run the preinstaller 19.32.34 # preinstaller? what's that? 19.32.44 # oh, it didnt' need a reformat, but i wanted to anyway 19.33.04 # um...whatever the file is that archos makes... that installs the archos drivers 19.33.52 # here's the other problem.. and it might be related to the first... before reformatting i did reinstall windows 19.34.00 # but it still wouldn't recognize anything in my secondary IDE port 19.34.43 # heh 19.34.45 # XP is such crap 19.34.45 # i would uninstall the archos drivers and just use the XP defaults 19.35.01 # what XP defaults? 19.35.24 # i had none of these problems before i moved in to this apartment... 19.35.27 # i'm so pissed 19.36.00 # hey, can you guys tell me this 19.36.16 # when i install the archos drivers, should i see new devices show up in the device manager? 19.36.18 # XP comes with USB drivers that will recognize the Jukebox 19.36.59 # it should only show in the device manager when the archos is attached to the system 19.37.09 # hmm.. ok 19.37.17 # ... which makes removing old USB devices a PITA 19.37.30 # do you perhaps know what kind of USB drivers these are? 19.38.02 # usb mass storage device 19.39.40 # ok, i'm going to try that 19.41.58 # the usb mass storage device would be under hard drives? 19.43.44 # err 19.43.48 # damned if I know 19.43.56 # I use Win2K, which works 19.44.07 # yeah .... 19.50.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.50.41 # * Stevie[FP] is away [food] [KS-MsgLog Off] 20.06.50 Quit Bryant () 20.42.04 Quit hardeep ("Erection reset by queer") 20.52.58 # cu tomorrow 20.53.26 Quit quelsaruk ("mi destino cambio, quizas se enredo al antojo de un Dios, hiriendo mi corazon....") 21.11.55 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 21.16.35 Quit adi|home (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.17.55 Quit adi|work ("[x]chat") 21.33.19 # * Stevie[FP] is back from [food] [gone 1hr 42mins 38secs] [KS] 21.50.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.09.27 Join Mighty_ [0] (mboss@h72n1fls35o931.telia.com) 22.09.38 # hello 22.10.49 # I've changed batteries in my jukebox a couple of times, and one of the blue chock absorbers doesn't stick/shut to its orginal position,, ie. it's being pushed out 2-3mm when one pushes it into position... 22.10.58 # anyone knows if it's possible to fix that somehow ? 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