--- Log for 01.06.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 18 days and 2 hours ago 00.00.02 # so? 00.00.36 # to me 192kbs CBR sounds fine 00.00.45 # VBR may sound better but for me its not worth the hassle 00.00.58 # hassle? 00.02.26 # my CD burning software doesn't support VBR 00.02.41 # oh. 00.03.11 # heh 00.03.15 # what software? 00.03.21 # I never burn cds 00.03.39 # earhurts, me neither, I only rip 00.04.09 # me too, jet, with cdex 00.04.18 # but there is a saying "If Its Not Broken, Don't Reject It, Sorry Don't Fix It" 00.04.21 # i use musicmatch 00.04.27 # works fine 00.04.31 # oh god. 00.04.38 # fuck...burned my finger :( 00.04.40 # mm is so ugly. 00.04.41 # I never rip 00.04.42 # heh ear... 00.04.43 # I just download 00.04.51 # its just to rip 00.04.54 # no biggy 00.05.10 # thu, yea i pay for my music 00.05.14 # you might try cdex. it uses cd paranoia linbs. 00.05.22 # hmm 00.05.23 # lol 00.05.26 # Jet8810: then you pay for mine too 00.05.27 # MusicMatch has the Fraunhofer codec 00.05.27 # Jet8810: thanks :) 00.05.32 # i download from emusic. 00.05.45 # anything interesting on emusic? 00.05.54 # lol 00.06.02 # opinion differs onn fraunhofer vs. lame. 00.06.06 # yea ear, they dont have much reggae, so im out 00.06.15 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.06.15 # BLADE is a crap codec 00.06.19 # no doubt about that 00.06.24 # emusic has a lot of classical & folk. 00.06.40 # mm classical sounds interesting 00.06.51 # that's one genre I don't like downloading from P2P 00.06.58 # I like it nice and organized 00.06.59 # ..? 00.07.07 # lol thu 00.07.08 # hello Linus 00.07.11 # freak 00.07.15 # hey blood, linus 00.07.16 # yes, i'mn listening to nbrenndel playing betthoven variationd right now 00.07.17 # first time ive seen a developer here 00.07.21 # lol 00.07.34 # Jet8810: it doesn't make much sense to mix some hundred pieces of classical music and shuffle them 00.07.58 # ive got 700 songs on my Archos 00.08.12 # esp as you'll snjuffle movemts within an opus. 00.08.18 # Linus I want to submit a request but they have all been sent already 00.08.31 # 700? 8 have 4800 00.08.38 # :-) 00.09.09 # Blood_Overdrive: i feel really sorry for you 00.09.10 # most fromemnusic. 00.09.23 # Linus I was gonna send "Edit ID3 tags on the fly but a guy called tracktheripper has already sent it" 00.09.24 # so organize em thu... 00.09.35 # actually support artists and buy :) 00.09.46 # (: 00.09.50 # Does anyone use tit1 or tit3 tags? 00.09.58 # Linus, what is the status on the Archos Remote Control bug by the way? 00.10.12 # my gf has nice tit tags :) 00.10.24 # earhurts, cdex is ugly 00.10.31 # just installed it 00.10.41 # Musicmatch has a nice interface 00.10.45 # Jet8810: I don't think I ever bought a (non pirated) cd in my life 00.11.00 # silver CDs look better than green CDs anyway 00.11.03 # I like the cdex interface. Plus the cdex developer responds to requests with alacrity. 00.11.09 # Jet8810: the bug? 00.11.10 # thu, no time like now to start 00.11.11 # I only support the Bulgarian cd-copy industry 00.11.14 # yes, Linus 00.11.22 # what bug? 00.11.24 # I saw it in a few emails already too... 00.11.29 # next and previous track buttons dont work 00.11.38 # or was that fixed awhile ago? 00.11.40 # my build is a little old 00.11.58 # Linus is the backlight on the Archos dimmable? 00.12.01 # Jet8810: and you ask me before even trying a new build? 00.12.02 # or is it just on-off? 00.12.07 # earHurts: how does emusic work? 00.12.14 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.32.238.forward.012.net.il) 00.12.15 # earHurts: do you pay a fixed subscription and download regular mp3s? 00.12.31 # Blood_Overdrive: the fm recorder backlight dims, but it looks like a hardware glitch rahter than intentional 00.12.44 # ohh right 00.12.44 Quit ken0_ (Connection reset by peer) 00.12.44 # $10.00 a moth, unlimted downloads @ et tracks at a tinme. 00.12.45 # Linus, sorry, was spur of the moment 00.12.56 # okay 00.13.00 # earHurts: et tracks? 00.13.02 # thanks 00.13.03 # the player/recorder backlight is on/off 00.13.19 # dims on drive spin up, you nean, Linus? 00.13.23 # i saw a feature request by tracktheripper dim the backlight which wasnt rejected 00.13.29 # so i thought it may be possible 00.13.44 # earHurts: so how much can you download in a month if you have a really fat pipe? 00.13.48 # thu: you can queue 35 tracks at a time. 00.14.13 # earHurts: does it have some weird client or can I use it in linux 00.14.36 # ? 00.14.45 # thu: theoretically unlimited. but they will drop customers who download a lot. call it 200/alnbums per mnonth. 00.14.50 # earHurts: yes 00.15.00 # it has a weird client for linux. 00.15.05 # earHurts: hmm that doesn't sound fair 00.15.06 # earHurts: :) 00.15.17 # earHurts: it's either unlimited or it has a limit 00.15.22 # it sucks if they can just drop you 00.15.41 # it has a limit, they don't say exactly what it is. 00.15.50 # niice 00.15.54 # just like my isp 00.16.08 # i never know when they'll just drop me for too much traffic 00.16.25 # yeah, bnut if you use it normally, well, 8t's good enough 00.16.56 # Linus, I assuned it was njust a power draw thing. 00.17.04 # it would be cool if companies like emusic would sell hard drives 00.17.18 # pay 1-200$ more and get a full 120G drive 00.17.27 # http://www.emusic.com/pitch.html 00.17.29 # hmm 00.17.37 # they say unlimited 00.17.54 # there's an ebook place that seels drives like that 00.18.06 # earHurts: I know 00.18.18 # 1. get fat net pipe 00.18.24 # 2. download tons of music from e music 00.18.26 # 3. get dropped 00.18.28 # 4. ??? 00.18.29 # 5. profit 00.18.54 # I've downloaded anbout 15 GNB in 8 nnmonths. 00.18.55 # thats false advertising though 00.18.58 # heh 00.19.34 # I'm runing out of room for it all 00.20.18 # and they've gone to vbr averaging arounbd 192, so it's anbout what I'd rip myself 00.20.42 # at $10/month it's a good deal 00.20.57 # yeah I think I'll give it a try 00.21.07 # it's not that much the music 00.21.13 # but the *organized* music 00.21.33 # I imagine ID3s are all in order 00.21.33 # yeah. I've never triedn p2p 00.21.50 # you candownload an entire alnbum. 00.21.50 Quit adi|home ("Damn flying monkies") 00.21.59 # earHurts: you must love that 'n' key 00.22.13 # earHurts: I can understand how you would get to type 'n' before 'm' 00.22.18 # but after 'd'?! 00.22.25 # what keyboard do you have? 00.22.27 # id3 is ok, I rewrite with mp3bh 00.22.37 # mp3bh? 00.22.55 # nmp3 book helper. excellent software. 00.23.34 # and the coder is very friendly about requests. 00.23.49 # he's done anbout a dozen of mine 00.24.07 # hmm 00.24.42 # he now supports almost all tags too. 00.25.08 # and the sofware will add or change tags based onregular expessions. 00.25.29 # and the software is gpl'd 00.25.50 # unfortunately, it's delphi, bnut... 00.26.09 # I don't understand the emusic thing 00.26.14 # how can they give you 50 free mp3s 00.26.17 # if you register 00.26.37 # if you can download all you want anyway 00.26.40 # thu, lol 00.26.49 # you get 50, then you can cancel the subscription. 00.26.55 # yea 00.27.07 # and do it again 00.27.08 # but thats wrong 00.27.12 # might as well use Kazaa 00.27.13 # after 50 they bill you. 00.27.30 # you have to give a credit card to nget the 50 00.28.06 # don't they bill you right away? 00.28.27 # you can cancel for 15 days 00.28.35 # right 00.28.55 # they probably check CC for another trial too 00.28.59 # if you try to do it twice 00.29.08 # if they have the music you like, it's a good ndeal 00.29.14 # yea 00.29.19 # but they dont have anough reggae 00.29.38 # for you, not a good deal 00.29.44 # I'm checking out new age now 00.29.58 # yea ear...so ill cotinue cds 00.29.59 Quit zamez (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.30.11 # * thu is searching for interesting new music 00.30.16 # lathought it might be njice to try new stuff 00.30.20 # for only $10 a month... 00.30.39 # yea, I am going to try the trial 00.30.43 # * thu is convinced 00.30.47 # I'll start the trial today 00.30.55 # yea me too 00.30.59 # and if it is worthwile, ill keep it 00.31.04 # if it isnt, ill delete it along with the songs 00.31.22 # it's good for expanding your tastes 00.32.59 # i was always afraid to buy classical cds, for fear i'd get a bad performance. 00.33.17 # yea 00.33.22 # with emusic, experimentinbg isn't costly. 00.33.24 # OK, doing 3 month plan if I dont cancel 00.33.36 # no, do the one year. 00.33.43 # ? 00.33.53 # it's cheaper in the long run 00.33.57 # its a 12 month contract though 00.34.15 # sur, 120 vs 45 00.34.42 # do they have a 1 mo plan? 00.34.45 # no 00.35.06 # so cheapest is $45? 00.35.12 # yeah. 00.35.21 # mmkay 00.37.01 # hehe good time to pay stuff 00.37.07 # the canadian dollar is waay high 00.37.18 # lol 00.37.21 # ok, subscribed 00.37.28 # it's still nbilled monthly 00.37.52 # what happens of you wanna cancel after 2 months? 00.38.01 # ok, rememnber to complain anbout the 35 track limit, and the download manager. 00.38.13 # you can't cancel. 00.38.28 # hehe 00.38.30 # rules of the game: 00.38.33 # 1. you can't win 00.38.35 # 2. you can't break 00.38.38 # 3. you can't break even 00.38.41 # lol 00.39.33 # they want to nbe able to predict their revenue 00.41.44 # gotta go and get ready for a date 00.42.43 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-124.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 00.43.30 # adi|home: SOKOBAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 00.43.37 # lol 00.49.48 # so if you go above 50 downloads it bills? 00.50.19 # probably 00.50.49 # hi Adi 00.53.08 # what does adi mean? A Dream Idol? A Dopey Idiot? 00.54.36 # Jet8810: what's your download speed on emusic? 00.55.48 # earHurts: ? 00.56.11 # fast 00.56.13 # lol 00.56.18 # doesnt say 00.57.15 # Jet8810: what do you have? cable? dsl? 00.57.26 # better? 00.57.31 # dsl 00.57.48 # how much does it take to d/l one song? 00.58.03 # lemme test 00.59.14 # bout 2 mins 01.00.08 # uhm 01.00.14 # too lazy to calculate 01.00.41 # lol 01.02.05 # cool.. while I'm listening to the 30s samples 01.02.13 # my xmms song position bar is moving backwards 01.03.07 # lol 01.03.11 # im reckless 01.03.19 # downloading 2 akbums 01.03.37 # * Blood_Overdrive gets LinusN A Guinness 01.04.01 # aaaahhh... 01.04.11 # eek guinness 01.04.55 # * thu looks over the emusic artist list and doesn't recognize any names 01.04.59 # * thu wonders if this is good or bad 01.06.09 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 01.06.36 # * Blood_Overdrive passes out (too much beer over the hot weekend) 01.07.16 # it's good to have a keg handy in hot weekends 01.07.37 # yea 01.07.48 # but i still am not gonna file a requwst 01.10.48 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBC5D97.ipt.aol.com) 01.11.44 # here he is!!1 01.11.55 # What? 01.12.14 # you and your crap requests 01.12.25 # HAHA 01.12.29 # :) 01.12.36 Part Jet8810 ("Client exiting") 01.12.42 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-34-206-251.bct.bellsouth.net) 01.13.03 # hey jey 01.13.05 # sorry jet 01.13.13 # ? 01.13.19 # welcome 01.13.20 # back 01.13.23 # lol 01.13.36 # why u picking on me for? 01.13.40 # hey does emusic give any album art? 01.14.13 # hmm 01.14.17 # dont seem so 01.15.02 # oh well 01.16.32 # never mind 01.16.41 # try some P2P services 01.16.53 # they sometimes have what you require 01.17.09 # like Kazaa 01.17.18 # be quiet track 01.17.19 # :P 01.19.27 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 01.19.38 # :) 01.20.07 # ahh well 01.21.23 # maybe I shouldnt have burned tape and held onto it 01.21.24 # lol 01.21.25 Quit Blood_Overdrive (Broken pipe) 01.21.32 # stuck to my finger and burned the shit out of it 01.21.57 # * LinusN notices that Blood_Overdrive and tracktheripper has the same ID (jirc@ACBC5D97.ipt.aol.com) 01.23.05 # wtf... 01.23.06 # lol 01.46.14 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection) 01.52.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.58.44 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: more nutritious than a six-pack.") 01.59.10 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 02.02.26 Quit _aLF ("bye") 02.19.36 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) 02.27.54 Quit Jet8810 ("Client exiting") 02.31.08 # anyone still around? 02.31.13 # i'm here 02.31.42 # * thu wonders about his rights over the music he downloads from emusic 02.31.49 # can I play it in public places? 02.31.57 # can I copy it to other ppl? 02.32.14 # * BoD[] says: you always can and should 02.32.45 # well then p2p with music originally bought from emusic should be legal 02.33.24 # it should always be legal to copy anything you know 02.33.38 # know? 02.33.47 # how can you copy something you don't know? 02.33.48 # , you know 02.33.56 # ooh 02.33.59 # forgot the ", " :) 02.34.00 # heh true 02.34.05 Quit matsl ("Client exiting") 02.34.11 # but that's not what the man says 02.34.51 # what man 02.35.46 # the policeman 02.36.13 # :) 02.36.23 # another good reason to do it ! 02.37.47 # so we're anarchists now, eh? 02.37.56 # I am 02.38.07 # about these questions only 02.38.27 # I'll make sure to remove the previous line from the log I'm mailing to the FBI 02.39.01 # I'm not american ;) I don't f** care about the fbi :) 02.39.04 # you must be one of those Arabs who want to ruin the American lifestyle 02.39.23 # no matter.. they can still come and kill yah 02.39.26 # the american lifestyle doesn't need any help ruining 02.39.32 # it's ruining itself just fine 02.39.43 # BoD[]: wow.. especially that you're french 02.40.00 # BoD[]: you guys have been on the blacklist for some time now 02.40.03 # yes :) 02.40.13 # I think next war will be against France 02.40.17 # BoD[]: how do you feel about your president? 02.40.22 # BoD[]: wanna be rescued already? 02.40.29 # s/rescued/liberated 02.40.36 # after all they declare wars to any country they want 02.41.06 # so... any mass desctruction weapons yet ? ;) 02.41.31 # keep searching ;) i'm sure you'll find em soon 02.41.49 # probably the shipment from the states got delayed 02.42.08 # ahah :) 02.42.14 # i wouldn't wanna see anything happen to france.. the land of the Archos 02.43.09 # but not the land of rockbox 02.43.16 # sweden !! 02.43.27 # best country ever ;) 02.43.31 # they're next :) 02.43.51 # unless they feel like adapting rockbox for the ipod 02.44.20 # that would be cool 02.45.35 # :-) 03.02.58 Part LinusN 03.32.54 # any emusic users around? 03.33.06 # nop 03.33.09 # what is emusic? 03.33.11 Join Mighty_ [0] (mboss@h72n1fls35o931.telia.com) 03.33.17 # emusic.com 03.33.19 Nick Mighty_ is now known as Mighty2 (mboss@h72n1fls35o931.telia.com) 03.33.28 # are there someone awake in here? 03.33.37 # Mighty2: no 03.34.01 Join sparkey [0] (~hhh@pcp04040367pcs.wbrmfd01.mi.comcast.net) 03.34.02 # you're C64/ 6502 programmers? 03.34.15 # Horizon people 03.34.23 Part sparkey 03.34.40 # heh not me 03.34.43 # hmm i'm not.. why ? 03.34.56 # I'd need a little help 03.35.00 # Zagor is offline all the time 03.35.14 # help about c64 / 6502 ?? 03.35.21 # yeah hehe 03.35.40 # you may not be in the right channel! 03.36.04 # I think I am, most of the Rockbox developers are from Horizon 03.36.08 # at least several of them 03.36.12 # what is Horison 03.36.13 # zon 03.36.19 # and they're the best C64 coders on the planet 03.36.29 # BoD[] one of the worlds best C64 demogroups 03.36.30 # :-) 03.36.39 # really !! i didn't know that :((( 03.36.49 # wait 03.36.50 # i'm a rockbox fan AND an demoscene fan 03.36.54 # and i didn't know !�!!!! 03.37.43 # http://www.contactor.se/~kjer/c64/horizon/ 03.38.29 # 1987 03.38.31 # wow 03.42.31 # (/me reading) 03.42.47 # hehe 03.43.58 # darn 03.44.08 # the emusic downloader segfaults on my systems 03.47.38 # so .. this group is retired now right ? 03.47.51 # seems so... was quite some time ago 03.49.18 # are they _that_ old?? 03.49.32 # wow.. I didn't know retired people were so cool 03.49.32 # are you _that_ young? :-) 03.49.56 # RETIRED!?? They're in their late twenties / early thirties 03.49.56 # really i'm amazed :) 03.50.03 # :P 03.50.32 # i was guessing those guys had a past in demoscene 03.50.44 # but i didn't know they were part of one of the biggest group :) 03.50.51 # * thu is younger than that 03.51.53 # any of you know 6502? 03.52.16 # no 03.52.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.52.26 # it's the main chip of the c64 right ? 03.53.00 # yes 03.53.14 # and VIC 20, C128, 8Bit NES and lots of things 03.53.31 # nes and c64 have the same chip :) i didn't know! 03.53.38 # what brand is it ? 03.54.04 # there are a ton of companies manufacturing the cpu 03.54.09 # or there -were- a ton 03.54.13 # really ? 03.54.20 # Motorolla perhaps made the Commodore one 03.54.26 # it's an "open source" chip then :) 03.54.30 # or MOS/CMOS, not sure 03.56.19 # I'm addicted to Zagor, where is he :-/ 03.57.26 # are you in love ? ;) 03.59.11 # yes 03.59.16 # we're deeply in love 03.59.46 # ;)) 04.09.55 Quit Mighty2 ("BitchX: now with flavor crystals!") 04.23.51 Quit BoD[] ("dodo") 04.35.50 Join midknight2k3 [0] (jirc@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 04.35.50 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.35.54 Join elinenbe [0] (elinenbe_@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 04.36.03 Quit midknight2k3 (Client Quit) 05.10.57 Join thu_ [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 05.18.02 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.44.23.forward.012.net.il) 05.27.02 Quit thu (Connection timed out) 05.36.06 Join Stevie-O [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inimj1.dialup.mindspring.com) 05.52.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.25.35 Join Jet8810 [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-34-206-251.bct.bellsouth.net) 07.52.29 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 08.19.33 Join scottie924 [0] (~jirc@adsl-216-63-201-25.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) 08.19.47 # hey 08.20.01 # anyone there? 08.20.15 Quit scottie924 (Client Quit) 08.20.19 Join scottie924 [0] (~jirc@adsl-216-63-201-25.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) 08.20.26 # hey 08.20.34 Quit scottie924 (Client Quit) 09.52.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.56.09 Quit thu_ ("Client exiting") 10.22.44 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: the cure for the common client") 10.28.25 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 10.35.23 Join _aLF [0] (alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-22-198.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) 10.36.45 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-138-88-76-40.res.east.verizon.net) 10.37.32 # hello. 10.45.04 # helo earHurts 10.45.05 # 250 Stevie-O 10.45.18 # earHurts: question: how do you get the emusic client to work on linux? 10.48.16 # i ndunnno. 10.48.23 # I use w2k. 10.49.18 # ask emusic to fix it, after all, emusic nstands to lose if you and others can't use their service. 10.50.50 # any coders here? 11.04.01 # whats emusic ? 11.08.55 # www.emusic.com 11.09.01 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection) 11.21.45 Quit thu ("zZz") 11.37.49 Join Blood_Overdrive [0] (jirc@ACBEA0C5.ipt.aol.com) 11.52.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.10.27 Quit Blood_Overdrive ("Leaving") 12.11.50 Quit awy[baer] ("There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary, and those who don't.") 13.12.08 Join juz [0] (juz@ACB61E9B.ipt.aol.com) 13.14.40 # anybody can send me the last francais.lng file please??? 13.24.15 Quit juz () 13.29.16 Join Blood_Overdrive [0] (jirc@ACBE12DF.ipt.aol.com) 13.30.34 Quit Stevie-O (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.37.00 # Hiya 13.37.01 # :) 13.49.34 Quit Blood_Overdrive ("Leaving") 13.52.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.52.42 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 16.21.13 Quit ken0_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.37.01 # good morning! 16.37.05 # hello, hello, hello! 16.53.19 Join awy[baer] [0] (~erklaerba@pD950E9AA.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.53.24 Quit TotMacher (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.53.24 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.31.30 NHeal (timeout) calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 17.50.16 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBF6111.ipt.aol.com) 17.50.46 # Hi 17.52.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.09.47 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 19.13.28 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 19.20.51 Join ken0_ [0] (marklar2@80.178.37.171.forward.012.net.il) 19.23.53 Join Stevie-O [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inims4.dialup.mindspring.com) 19.46.25 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBD4609.ipt.aol.com) 19.46.26 Quit Stevie-O (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19.46.33 # hello 19.46.41 # hi 19.47.21 # hello Hardeep 19.47.38 # I wondered if the Player's LCD can be "simulated" on the Recorder's LCD 19.48.25 # yeah, that should be possible 19.52.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.58.01 #