--- Log for 08.06.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 25 days and 2 hours ago 00.05.28 Quit zebda ("Leaving") 00.31.23 Join MiChAeLoL [0] (michael@12-249-226-112.client.attbi.com) 00.31.31 # anyone here? 00.32.19 # im thinking about getting a archos 20gb jukebox, but have read mixed reviews on it... i assume that its that the firmware that it ships with sucks so if i were to get one i would update that right away 00.32.35 # does anyone here have the 20gb fm recorder one? 00.39.56 Quit Stevie-O (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.52.36 # anyone here? 00.56.39 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAA010.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.58.01 # * MiChAeLoL wonders if anyone is here 01.19.09 # probably gunna get one, would you recomend the archos fm recorder 20gb or just teh archos 20gb recorder (no fm) 01.21.49 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBF9EEF.ipt.aol.com) 01.22.54 # anyone have the archos mp3 player? 01.33.33 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 01.34.05 # MiChAeLoL: what do you want to know about the jukebox? 01.35.40 Join freddi [0] (freddi@dyn-71-60.tor.dsl.tht.net) 01.43.00 # hi all 01.43.58 # that its 20 gb and the firmware it comes with sucks 01.44.04 # thinking about getting one 01.44.20 # probably gunna get the 20gb jukebox fm recorder for $222.22 01.45.31 # if i were to get the fm one would the firmware work with it? 01.45.42 # or rather... is the firmware for the regular one better 01.46.29 # probably gunna get http://store.yahoo.com/discountsonline/arjufmre20mp.html that one 01.46.45 # I heard the (fm) antenna isn't that great.. 01.47.02 # yea i heard that too 01.47.11 # i know the antenna is the headphones 01.47.25 # so if your headphones are insulated (mine arnt that much) then the reception sucks 01.47.53 # and i also heard that the recorder overwrites previously recorded things in the same folder 01.48.35 # rockbox creates new files for every recording 01.49.07 # the fmrec is pretty good, although it doesn't have Digital Out 01.49.07 # ok good, then im gunna get it 01.49.20 # it does LinusN, its switchable with the Line Out 01.49.23 # can you record off a mic at good quality? 01.49.43 # tracktheripper: how? 01.49.47 # the digital out and Line Out share the same socket 01.49.57 # there is an option in the Archos to switch between the 2 01.50.06 # MiChAeLoL: sort of, the hard disk noise is picked up by the mic 01.50.19 # tracktheripper: show me 01.50.19 # like a lot or not that much? 01.50.36 # even with an external mic? 01.50.41 # recording quality isn't that great either (don't aspect miracles) 01.50.46 # visit the archos webby for details 01.50.50 # ok 01.51.26 # how much power does it use? 01.52.20 # think ill get one then, sounds really good for the price with the rockbox software 01.52.53 # MiChAeLoL: good choice 01.53.05 # any possiability of adding wma formats or other audio formats to it in the future through rockbox? 01.53.48 # no sorry 01.53.59 # decoding is done in hardware 01.54.01 # ok, doesnt matter that much tho cause i dont have any wma format songs 01.54.05 # yea thought so 01.54.09 # and the chip is hard-coded to play MP3 only 01.54.41 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) 01.54.46 # tracktheripper: care to give me a URL for that information? 01.54.54 # (the digital out) 01.55.02 # there is nothing in the FAQ 01.55.18 # hello:) 01.55.24 # ive got the PDF manual (somewhere) on my PC 01.55.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.56.00 # http://www.archos.com/support/faq/faq_jukebox_fm_recorder.html#category_4 01.56.03 # oh yeah, is the hard drive that noisy? 01.56.04 # visit that Linusn 01.56.12 # the answer is there for you 01.56.35 # i must be blind 01.56.42 # you are thats why :-) 01.56.48 # like inbetween songs over 2mb when it has to reload the song 01.56.53 # did u see the "Digital question"? 01.57.15 # yes, but that is for Digital *IN* 01.58.13 # righty 01.58.16 # hmmm that faq has it all,.... Jukebox FM Recorder Power Adapter Specs: Output 6V / 700mA. 01.58.16 # 01.58.16 # 01.58.41 # LinusN so when are we gonna see better file management for recording? 01.58.45 # tracktheripper: so where does it say that Digital Out works? 01.58.56 # looks like i can use 4 aa batters and make an external battery pack if i dont want to wait for it to charge 01.58.59 # don't know 01.59.12 # not sure if aa's can hold 700ma tho 01.59.35 # LinusN when are we gonna get better file management for recording> 01.59.47 # tracktheripper: one sunny day... 01.59.55 # if it ever comes 02.00.11 # "This is not possible to implement, due to linusN limitations......" 02.00.16 # :-) 02.00.17 # it was rather sunny to day :) 02.00.39 # ricII: indeed, it just wasn't that one day 02.00.41 # (-: 02.00.46 # hmmm they say there working on wma support for all jukebox models 02.00.57 # i believe it when i see it 02.01.05 # if they did come out with it would you be able to see how they did it and add it to rockbox? 02.01.11 # wonder how thay gonna do that.. 02.01.13 # maybe 02.01.20 # its in the faq 02.01.26 # well why not write a software decoder? 02.01.34 # tracktheripper: too slow cpu 02.01.36 # after Winamp uses software decoder 02.02.05 # likewise, write a software tuner for the Recorders to pick up FM :-))) 02.02.10 # .-) 02.02.26 # and the memory on the dsp is only 8k, so even if I could code it.. 02.02.49 # :-)) 02.02.56 # linusN is always cheerful 02.03.52 # a big clock app would be nice.... 02.03.53 # or "usually" cheerful 02.04.23 # "give tetris its proper vertical interface" 02.04.38 # does rockbox have a built in clock? 02.04.53 # yes 02.04.57 # thought so 02.04.58 # MiChAeLoL: the recorder models have a real time clock chip that rockbox uses 02.05.12 # do the players have a clock? 02.05.22 # dotn know 02.05.26 # i think so, not sure 02.05.30 # no they don't 02.05.34 # if not, just write a "software clock" :-) 02.05.37 # does it have a timer that says how far into the song it is 02.05.38 # not too much code :-)) 02.05.43 # just take a look at the datasheets... 02.05.44 # MiChAeLoL: yes of course 02.05.46 # or does it have tracking ? 02.05.53 # tracking? 02.06.00 # skip forward into a song 02.06.04 # no it does not have me built-in 02.06.04 # oh yes 02.06.07 # * MiChAeLoL has yet to see an mp3 player that can do that 02.06.11 # tracktheripper: boooo 02.06.15 # excellent 02.06.25 # what do u meen booooo? 02.06.28 # is there like a bar onscreen or fastforward button? 02.06.36 # tracktheripper: silly joke 02.06.40 # heehee 02.06.42 # * MiChAeLoL cant wait till he gets his 02.06.44 # MiChAeLoL: both 02.06.49 # excellent 02.06.54 # im sold ...lol 02.07.21 # LinusN will we get a "Create Folder" like ARchosy firmware? 02.07.29 # MiChAeLoL: and it resumes from where you left off after shutting off 02.07.34 # excellent 02.07.35 # :D:D:D 02.07.40 # tracktheripper: yes 02.07.40 # can you rename files? 02.07.44 # MiChAeLoL: yes 02.07.45 # yes 02.07.48 # hehe 02.07.57 # lol... can you view photos? 02.08.02 # does it have a "Format" mode built in? 02.08.03 # in black and white 02.08.06 # MiChAeLoL: nope 02.08.14 # tracktheripper: why? 02.08.15 # LinusN: looked at hardeep's hard work? 02.08.19 # lol didnt think so, that would require a shitload of programs 02.08.23 # ricII: no, not yet 02.08.27 # yea 02.08.37 # like one to convert it to the correct format and everything 02.08.48 # or can it support the LAME codec? 02.08.52 # ricII: have u? 02.08.58 # I still waiting for my replacement lcd 02.09.01 # does it have the dsp with all lines that move up and down? 02.09.11 # like in winamp 02.09.15 # MiChAeLoL: no 02.09.29 # one last thing... how long does it take to charge? 02.09.40 # quite some time, several hours 02.09.49 # ok 02.10.23 # yea i saw the ram upgrade but taht looks like too much work for me... harder then installing a mod chip 02.10.28 # you can charge it from the external charger, or from USB (fm recorder) 02.10.47 # i wanna make my JB charge from USB 02.10.52 # yea i saw that it could be charged from usb in the faq 02.11.19 # can it be charged from usb through rockbox? 02.11.34 # LinusN just browsed the diff, looks exactly what I had in mind 02.11.39 # MiChAeLoL: yes 02.11.40 # michael, any more questions? :-) 02.11.43 # hehe lol 02.11.48 # just excited 02.11.51 # ricII: yes it looks really promising 02.11.57 # its a large cool thinggy 02.12.04 # "Turn of Rejected in Sorceforge" 02.12.09 # ill probably be the only person with a 20gb mp3 player in my area 02.12.27 # MiChAeLoL: and you can upgrade it to 60... 02.12.35 # 80 even now 02.12.42 # yea i saw one upgraded on ebay 02.12.46 # too ebay 02.12.47 # or even 200... 02.12.50 # are they laptop hd's? 02.12.57 # or regular hd's that you upgrade it 02.13.12 # laptop hd's, 9.5mm 2.5" 02.13.17 # cause 80gb laptop hd's are quite expensive 02.13.25 # hmmm 02.13.42 # mabye in the future ill upgrade it 02.13.50 # when i see a cheap laptop hd 02.14.17 # the Hitachi drives are the best units 02.14.46 # MiChAeLoL you could also upgrade the memory but that's not for the faint of hearted.. 02.14.59 # there is no real benefit upgrating the memory 02.15.06 # according to Zagor 02.15.14 # 2mb is probably enough for me 02.15.25 # lol http://shop.store.yahoo.com/hd4less/ibmhtr808029.html 335 bucks for an 80gb 02.17.20 # can the charger work in europe (220v)? 02.17.34 # like does it say 110v ~ 240v on the charger? 02.18.31 # my fm recorder is american, and i had to buy a new charger 02.19.04 # (i live in sweden) 02.19.19 # where did you get your charger? 02.19.32 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 02.19.42 # at a local consumer electronics dealer 02.19.53 # nothing special about it 02.20.12 # ok 02.20.34 # just one that is 6v and can do 700ma 02.22.44 # yup 02.23.53 # * MiChAeLoL is ordering one right now 02.24.46 # great! 02.28.25 Quit Jet8810 ("Client exiting") 02.51.57 # * MiChAeLoL should have it in a week 02.52.04 # slow ground shipping 02.55.42 Quit BoD[] ("mblelop") 02.58.57 Part LinusN 03.19.54 # so how long does the battery last when rockbox is installed? 03.20.01 # like how much longer? 03.55.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.10.03 # so can i search for songs in rockbox? and do i need a plugin? 04.33.10 # MiChAeLoL: no, there is no way to search for a song yet... 04.33.28 # MiChAeLoL: what type of plugin are you referring to? 05.14.53 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@ACA4B5B9.ipt.aol.com) 05.15.04 # lo 05.15.14 # helo 05.15.17 Join Stevie-O [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inimqc.dialup.mindspring.com) 05.15.22 # evening 05.15.23 # helo 05.15.32 # you still have it off lol 05.16.13 Join green_ [0] (~green@adsl-64-163-215-27.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 05.17.45 # Green 05.18.35 # hey green 05.19.08 # (psst) do you know him> (/psst) 05.19.31 # hello 05.19.39 # whats up? 05.19.41 # just trying to do a hd upgrade... 05.19.45 # hey 05.19.48 # on an archos? 05.19.54 # yep 05.20.02 # what size? and what model? 05.20.04 # cool 05.20.14 # very 05.20.18 # recorder, 40gig 05.20.31 # sounds good 05.20.38 # well, we'll see :-) 05.20.41 # very cool 05.20.42 # I've got it apart 05.20.49 # need to partition new drive 05.20.50 # doing a player upgrade just aint worth it 05.21.24 # I upgraded the disks on my tivo.. so.... 05.21.26 # fdisk will help ye 05.22.54 # TiVo disk upgrade... cool 05.22.59 # what's the standard size again? 05.23.09 # bah.. they don't tell you how to stick these IDE adaptors onto the disk 05.23.25 # dunno 05.23.30 # I bought the first tivo . It was small. 05.24.06 # so what was the size and what was it upgraded to? 05.24.07 # mk 05.24.16 # yes? 05.24.28 # well I'll guess that you don't have a Player, then :P 05.24.34 # nope 05.24.36 # I went up to 80gig 05.24.36 # no way 05.24.39 # fmrecorder 05.24.41 # I forget what was there to start 05.24.50 # cool that it worked though 05.29.33 Join OneCluedCoder [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inilqn.dialup.mindspring.com) 05.29.51 Nick OneCluedCoder is now known as OliverKlozoff (whatsit2u@user-2inilqn.dialup.mindspring.com) 05.29.57 # myth me? 05.30.13 # ? 05.35.48 # you have an fmrecorder? 05.35.55 # just got one, waiting for it to ship 05.35.55 # me? yes 05.35.59 # cool 05.36.08 # how is the fm reception? 05.36.14 # a bit of advice: use archos firmware for recording fm 05.36.20 # hehe 05.36.29 # fm reception is... average - dpends where ya live 05.36.34 # some come in clear 05.36.36 # yea 05.36.37 # some don't 05.36.44 # overall it's cool 05.36.44 # where did you get the 80gb for it? 05.36.49 # might upgrade 05.36.57 # use archos to record FM for now till rockbox get's patched up 05.37.03 # i didn't lol 05.37.12 # that was someone else talking about a TiVo upgrade 05.37.19 # oh lol 05.37.24 # I have NO use for that space heh 05.37.34 # yea i was wondering for a sec 05.37.41 # hahaha 05.37.51 # i doubt they barely even MAKE 80 gig laptop drives yet 05.38.13 # i think they do 05.38.19 # just like 300-400 bucks 05.38.27 # haha 05.38.29 # has anyone tried http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=723682&group_id=44306&atid=439120 that plugin to search? 05.38.35 # yeah maybe but i meant like barely 05.38.39 # yea 05.38.48 # not like cheap 80gb maxtor hd's 05.38.51 # rarely 05.38.59 # on the most POWERFUL laptop ever just MAYBE 05.39.02 # yeah 05.39.16 # didnt try that patch 05.39.21 # i can't compile for beans 05.39.36 # I only try it if they compile it first then post it 05.40.20 # Zagor is so... grumpy 05.40.34 # "I dislike polluting the clean and simple .m3u format with ..." 05.40.48 # "Nice feature, but I feel it could be improved in a few ways: 05.40.48 # " 05.41.05 # "Having to enter 05.41.05 # a result name for every search would be too tedious." 05.41.18 # i could compile it on my xbox running linux ...lol 05.41.20 # lol 05.41.28 # dont have linux on my pc anymore tho 05.41.34 # really 05.41.36 # you tried that? 05.41.47 # my xbox hosts my website 05.41.48 # did you ever try that Evo dashboard or whatever? 05.41.51 # cool 05.41.52 # and has an 80gb hard drive 05.41.56 # are you on the xbox right now? 05.42.02 # evo is ok but avalaunch is better 05.42.10 # i could be... but dont like reading off the tv 05.42.20 # that's pretty cool though 05.42.31 # lol i could even type documents 05.42.38 # havnt set up a print server yet tho 05.42.46 # lol... printing from an xbox over a lan 05.42.49 # now that is something i wouldn't mind doing with my xbox. lol 05.43.08 # you can also *caugh* copy games to the hard drive and play them from there 05.43.20 # and play movies in anyformat 05.43.24 # off the hd or over a network 05.43.28 # even blockbuster rentals?? (drools) 05.43.35 # yep *grins* 05.43.45 # but you gotta have a modchip right? 05.43.48 # yep 05.43.56 # do they have any extrenal ones or easy hookup ones 05.44.02 # there is a way to flash the tsop through linux live... but ya have to open it 05.44.07 # and put the xbox hd in your computer 05.44.17 # cause it sounds cool and i have taken the thing apart before, but soldering something in seems a bit too... something i dont wanna do 05.44.19 # only way is to open the system voiding your warrenty 05.44.35 # its not that hard... ya just practice on something else first 05.44.38 # warranty is out anyway 05.44.48 # yeah i just dont want to yet 05.44.50 # maybe in a bit 05.44.51 # i had no soldiering expiernce and practiced then did mine fine 05.44.53 # it sounds really coo 05.44.55 # l 05.45.00 # yep it is 05.45.05 # how many wires to solder 05.45.11 # mine was 10 05.45.18 # there are no soldier ones too 05.45.24 # how long to copy a game to the HD? 05.45.34 # but some no soldier ones might get disaligned where you have to put it back 05.45.39 # like 2-4 min 05.45.42 # how many games can fit on the HD? 05.45.48 # depends on the size 05.45.56 # lol the standard 8 05.45.56 Join woigeauogiwazgwe [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inim4f.dialup.mindspring.com) 05.45.59 # GB 05.46.02 # what idiot designed this ircd? 05.46.07 # ? 05.46.08 # a game is anywhere from 700mb to 5gb 05.46.13 # hahahah 05.46.15 # i put an 80gb in mine 05.46.19 # i better do the HD upgrade too lol 05.46.26 # you can put up to 137gb 05.46.40 # anything more then that it wont recegnise it and will be shrinked down to 137 05.46.47 # uh huh 05.46.52 # sounds cool 05.47.12 # having a problem copying enter the matrix tho... think i need a patch 05.47.40 # mm hmm 05.48.06 Quit Stevie-O (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.48.11 # when did this become a discussion on pirating? 05.48.16 Nick woigeauogiwazgwe is now known as Stevie-O (whatsit2u@user-2inim4f.dialup.mindspring.com) 05.48.41 # it doesnt matter 05.48.41 # dont know 05.48.46 # no longer is tho 05.48.48 # lol 05.48.52 # at least i dont think it is 05.49.08 # it's just friendly chat not like we meant anything by it. .... right? 05.49.09 # mmmkay 05.49.34 # yep 05.50.46 # http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/wee-lo.htm 05.50.55 # it is now chat on a funny weebl+bob episode 05.51.28 # lol 05.52.47 # don't be fooled by the pie that we got.... something weebl this is bob.... donkey....... lives with a ninja... 05.54.39 # pirate with pie 05.54.47 # i wish i could download cherry pie 05.54.52 # lol... downloading food 05.55.00 # yay 05.55.46 # hmm.. I can't seem for format the new drive 05.55.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.55.54 # uh oh 05.56.09 # for tivo? 05.56.12 # mkfs.msdos: Attempting to create a too large file system 05.56.21 # oo ooh 05.56.24 # no, jukebox recorder 05.56.44 # if it's xp it will make the FAT32 file system limit 32GB 05.56.49 Quit OliverKlozoff (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.57.06 # this is Linux 05.57.15 # fdisk? 05.57.22 # hm 05.57.22 # hmm.. hopefully I can google my way out of this. 05.57.29 # probably 05.57.35 # or go into a linux help channel 05.57.45 # #linuxhelp 05.57.56 # max FAT32 filesystem size is 2TB I believe 05.57.56 # I created an fat32 partition with fdisk. Now I'm formatting... 05.58.05 # ahhh 05.58.13 # max that Win2K will create is 32GB 05.58.17 # yeah 05.58.24 # they want to do that so you move to NTFS 05.58.48 # linux should let you make it a big fat32 05.58.53 # mabye in a really old version of windows 06.00.14 # no 06.00.20 # old windows is even less likely to support it 06.00.31 # email the author of mkfs.msdos? 06.00.37 # make sure you specify 32 bits 06.00.46 # if it's trying to do FAT16 it will fail miserably 06.00.52 # FAT16 can't hold more than 2GB 06.01.45 # hahahahah 06.08.09 Join Yeft [0] (Yeft@ACA95984.ipt.aol.com) 06.08.24 # yay 06.08.28 # did you get your fmrecorder? 06.08.30 # YEFT? 06.08.31 # yay! yefts got visual C++ and visual basic and a shipping fm recorder 06.08.33 # lol 06.08.45 # yayayayaayyyayayayayayyayayayay 06.08.57 # hmm...to learn basic, or C++ 06.08.59 # i hope i dont have to exchange my fmrecorder 06.09.05 # * MiChAeLoL wish he got his fmrecorder 06.09.06 # UPS Ground 06.09.06 # Processing 06.09.08 # basic is basic-ally easy 06.09.15 # but i got it for 222 dollars so im not complaining 06.09.21 # ups ground too 06.09.25 # ok - figured that out. mkfs.vfat -F 32 06.09.33 # ..right 06.09.44 # shipping was like 24 bucks for ground tho :( 06.09.47 #