--- Log for 10.06.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: @logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 27 days and 2 hours ago 00.01.39 *** Alert Mode OFF 00.01.48 # I have bizarre data in my ddram buffer 00.01.57 # 'Nyoifs|$:KF$$' 00.02.06 # I must be doing something wrong 00.03.03 # http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html <-- do i do step 4 in dos? 00.03.37 # well, in a command line window 00.04.05 # yep 00.07.20 # wtf 00.09.25 # do i need to Download rockbox-tools.tar.bz2 ? 00.09.39 # yes 00.10.50 # have made 2 scripts wich will make CVS handling easy for you where are these scripts? 00.11.53 # ignore that. read the cvs link instead 00.12.32 # should i just do a normal cvs checkout then 00.12.35 # yes 00.12.36 # nm 00.12.37 # got 00.12.38 # it 00.13.05 # is there something nonobvious that the player lcd code is doing? 00.13.58 # not that I can think of right now 00.14.15 # ok... 00.14.26 # login aborted: cannot create socket (any ideas?) 00.15.08 # it says operation not permitted 00.15.20 # then something is fscked 00.15.26 # what does this hw display on bootup? 00.15.29 # ? 00.15.38 # so there is no way for me to compile it? 00.16.26 # Stevie[FP]: "Jukebox 6GB\nVer : 4.13" 00.16.43 # mh 00.16.45 # MiChAeLoL: if you can't get cvs to work, grab a daily tarball 00.16.47 # that's nothing even close to what I see :( 00.17.01 # ok 00.17.05 # † 00.17.07 # º 00.17.20 # N 00.17.27 # 0100 1110 00.18.08 # if that should say J... J is 0100 1010 00.18.39 # 'y' is 0111 1001 00.19.01 # 'u' is 0111 0101 00.19.30 # and DS is asserted? 00.19.43 # 'o' is 0110 1111 -> 'k' is 0110 1011 00.19.56 # its like a few of the bits are wrong 00.19.58 # are any of the files from the source supposed to be in folders? 00.20.14 # MiChAeLoL: yes, there's a tree structure 00.20.58 # I think you guys should note that, as some of us turn *off* folder processing 00.21.36 # well, source archives pretty much invariably contain directories 00.21.37 # especially for stuff made by Linux people, since they have a rather annoying tendency to put everything in a subdir (convenient for untarring, inconvenient for unzipping) 00.21.47 # well 00.21.51 # I was thinking about the rockbox install zip 00.22.00 # ah, ok 00.22.02 Join jandaman [0] (jandaman@asiy463y25uj.bc.hsia.telus.net) 00.24.07 # damn 00.24.16 # its not in a tree directory for me 00.24.36 Quit _aLF ("bye") 00.26.18 Quit Jet8810 ("Client exiting") 00.27.24 # damn i cant extract anything 00.27.28 # gives me error messages 00.27.32 # with no message 00.28.01 # mabye i could set up an ftp server, and get it from my linux box 00.30.33 Quit jandaZzZz (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 00.32.19 # 4a 00.32.25 # J 00.32.28 # now that's strange 00.32.38 # it turns 0x4A into 0x4E before sending it to the thing 00.32.41 # there MUST be a conversion table 00.34.34 # ah, yes. sorry forgot to tell you... :-) 00.34.43 # gee, thanks ;) 00.35.25 # it looks largely normal but for shifting the entire character set forward by about 5 bytes? 00.35.28 # see bottom of page http://rockbox.haxx.se/notes.html 00.35.29 # yes 00.35.30 # hehe problem solved 00.37.13 # ok, now I just need to find out why I'm not drawing anything correctly :P 00.42.12 # damn cygwin wont let me view files that wernt made by cygwin 00.42.25 # rockbox-daily-20030609 00.42.45 # i pasted the folder with all the files in in windows... and cygwin just says "invalid folder" 00.42.54 # or rather invalid directory 00.43.29 # pasted? 00.43.34 # yep 00.43.37 # and typed 00.43.39 # either way 00.43.49 # i even renamed the folder nice and easy so i could type it right 00.43.54 # still wont let me view the contents 00.44.00 # unpack it: tar xzf rockbox-daily-20030609.tar.gz 00.45.01 # so wait 00.45.17 # is the old display controller different from the 1801? 00.45.23 # cannot open: no such file or directory 00.45.25 # and its right there 00.45.33 # cygwin is messed up 00.45.39 # the last time i installed it it crashed my computer 00.45.54 # Stevie[FP]: slightly, yes. but just in the character rom setup. 00.46.10 # i dont think theres a point in me compiling this 00.46.14 # the code here has more than that 00.46.28 # guess i wont get to use the search feature or chip8 emu ;( 00.46.29 # such as? 00.46.40 # different contrast set command? 00.46.56 # top of lcd-player.c... 00.47.18 # right. there's also a double-height command in the new that's not available in the old. 00.47.38 # I get an unrecognized command 0x61 at the beginning 00.47.45 # i think its that it wont let me execute cygwin 00.47.47 # it doesn't exist according to my 1801 docs 00.47.53 # cause when i type ls it does nothing 00.48.20 # damn this is annoying 00.48.29 # lol.. could someone just compile it for me 00.48.30 # Stevie[FP]: we're not 100% certain it is an 1801 at all. it's just the closest match we've found. 00.48.49 # oic 00.48.52 # well wait 00.49.03 # haven't you opened yours up? 00.49.30 # yes, but the player lcd isn't as clearly marked as the recorder one. 00.49.35 # ah. 00.49.44 # the player lcd is custom made for archos, while the recorder lcd is off-the-shelf 00.50.27 # ahh OK 00.51.26 # grrr screw it 00.51.33 # * MiChAeLoL left to eat 00.52.03 # hmm 00.52.27 # perhaps it's not even a Solomon 00.52.35 # perhaps not 00.52.48 # since the 1801 is the ONLY one they had 00.52.55 # that's a charcell 00.53.21 # btw 00.53.30 # did you know it doesn't display the "Version" string until *after* it accesses the HD? 00.53.50 # nope 00.54.02 # now ya do 00.54.09 # :) 00.54.30 # all I have is 'Jukebox 6gb' 00.54.39 # ok 00.55.48 # ok, bbl 00.55.50 # * Stevie[FP] is away [gawn] [KS-MsgLog Off] 00.55.57 # gotta go setup a linux bawx 00.56.34 # i'm off to bed. see you tomorrow 01.05.57 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 01.34.56 Nick MT is now known as MT|CS (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 01.39.54 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-138-88-76-40.res.east.verizon.net) 01.41.24 # how nmany buttons does the player have? 01.42.50 # 6 01.48.10 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 01.48.48 # Stevie[FP]: the player lcd chip is probably a samsung 01.54.29 # the new player is probably S6A0093A (http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/SystemLSI/DDI/MobileDDI/BWSTN/S6A0093A/S6A0093A.htm) 01.56.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.57.07 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.00.48 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBD67FE.ipt.aol.com) 02.01.07 # evening all 02.03.09 # hi linusn 02.04.03 # hi 02.04.09 # hi linuxn 02.04.41 # Stevie[FP]: old player is s6a0090 (http://www.orientdisplay.com/controller_and_driver/S6A0090.pdf) 02.05.30 # LinusN the UISimulator should be provided on the site as a simple installation .exe file 02.05.34 # much more idiot-proof 02.08.21 # what do u think? 02.08.47 # so you can easily open ajbrec.ajz files into it 02.08.59 # and see how they function and if they need any tweaking 02.09.40 Join elinenbe_ [0] (elinenbe_@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 02.12.34 # tracktheripper: you don't know what the uisimulator is, do you? 02.12.55 # yes I do 02.13.44 # its a software emulation of the interfaces on the Player and Recorder 02.14.07 # so why do you think you can open an ajbrec.ajz in it? 02.14.44 # so you can see how it runs before putting it on a JB machine 02.14.47 # it is a simulator, not an emulator 02.15.33 # okays 02.15.56 # im sure my request will be r*j*cted sooner or later :P 02.16.04 # the uisimulator is the rockbox firmware, with added glue to display in a window 02.16.25 # oh righty 02.16.26 # however, Stevie[FP] is working on an emulator 02.16.32 # ahhh! 02.16.42 # An Emulatior would bve very handy indeed 02.16.58 # so my request should be "Pending" then! 02.17.50 # Linus Would Retro-Record work on the Recorders?]# 02.18.13 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 02.18.13 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (elinenbe_@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 02.18.59 # Linus there is a numberplate L1 NUS for sale in London for £22,000 02.20.01 # if you do my "Reshuffle when repeating playlist" request ill buy u that plate :-) 02.20.29 # :-) 02.20.57 # (-: 02.21.05 # retro-record works on all recorders 02.21.18 # will it be implemented on the normal Recorders? 02.21.33 # yes 02.21.41 # blah, we need to change ON+PLAY to some other key sequence not involving PLAY for playlist options... one slip and your playlist is gone 02.21.44 # cool! 02.21.50 # night night 02.21.50 # :X 02.21.52 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 02.30.49 # this emulator, does stevie plan to release it? 02.31.16 # i guess so 02.31.21 # gotta sleep, nite all 02.31.24 Part LinusN 02.37.13 Quit jandaman (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.37.13 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.37.13 Quit MiChAeLoL (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.37.13 Quit Hadaka (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.37.13 Quit Hes_ (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.37.13 Quit earHurts (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.37.13 Quit dw|gone (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.37.13 Quit mbr (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.37.13 Quit hardeep (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.37.13 Quit MT|CS (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 02.37.31 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 02.37.31 NJoin earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-138-88-76-40.res.east.verizon.net) 02.37.31 NJoin jandaman [0] (jandaman@asiy463y25uj.bc.hsia.telus.net) 02.37.31 NJoin MiChAeLoL [0] (michael@12-249-226-112.client.attbi.com) 02.37.31 NJoin hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 02.37.31 NJoin MT|CS [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 02.37.31 NJoin dw|gone [20] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 02.37.31 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 02.37.31 NJoin Hes_ [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 02.37.31 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 02.38.49 # hardeep? 02.39.12 # yes, i wrote that patch 02.40.00 # does it do anything with regards to diplaying/bnrowsing playlists? 02.41.07 # no, that's next on my list if this gets approved 02.41.50 # have you seen hoffman's emails regarding his vitual file system? 02.42.28 # yes, neat idea 02.43.09 # any idea what the status of the file search patch is? 02.44.03 # yes, i think it comes close. question is, sight unseen, how do you guess it interacts with your dynamic playlists? 02.44.17 # MiChAeLoL: see the comments on the patch... Zagor likes the patch, just wants some changes to it before committing 02.44.29 # the file search is still unapproved as of yesterday 02.44.55 # earHurts: the two are unrelated... the virtual file system stuff is for browsing files... browsing playlists is different imo 02.45.12 # specifically, i wouldn't want to have to browse through a directory tree to see what song is next 02.45.56 # you'd just want to scan the playlist 02.46.20 # yeah 02.47.05 # still, i'd like to group songs on a playlist, as if they were all a single song as far as shuffling is concerned 02.49.29 # you don't need a virtual file system for that... just playlists and a command to not shuffle them 02.49.55 # would you use a song database? 02.50.09 # for what? 02.50.18 # searching? 02.51.28 # i don't quite follow... searching for what? 02.51.55 # say, all songs by bob dylan with genre rock 02.52.23 # or all covers of mr tamborine man 02.53.16 # are we still talking about browsing playlists? 02.54.26 # call it a database of tracks 02.56.23 # ok 02.56.50 # hehe should have my player in 3 more days or so 02.57.05 # earHurts: I understand what you mean by a song database, I'm just not following how it's related to the playlist discussion... 02.57.06 # got the fm recorder for 222 dollars online, waiting for it to ship 02.57.17 # the playlist is the database 02.57.46 # well, it's not quit related 02.57.57 # unless ya have a really small playlist 02.59.20 # how fast do ya think it would search like 3,000 songs? 02.59.45 # that is the question.... 03.00.10 # and ya would have to have it ignore _ - () and such 03.00.34 # if we used the nmpeg nmenmnory, probably quicklyt 03.00.39 # yea 03.01.15 # of course the list would be a pre generated file 03.02.04 # the parsing will probably be very quick... writing the info back to disk will be the bottleneck 03.03.57 # yes 03.04.27 # well, reading the id3 tags will be the real bottle neck 03.04.52 Join jony [0] (~jony@dsl-200-67-231-4.prodigy.net.mx) 03.04.58 # do the bulk of that on the pc, with an option to remember new songs as they are played 03.05.12 # hi 03.05.33 # hi 03.05.45 # how do i know whitch dev my archos is pluged in?? 03.05.53 # hi earHurts 03.06.03 # windows or unix, jonny? 03.06.05 # hope its not thet bad 03.06.09 # *that 03.06.15 # unix 03.06.17 # it's bnetter now 03.06.29 # linux rh9 specificaly 03.06.33 # can't answer for unix, sorry 03.06.34 # good :D 03.06.53 # ok thanx anyway 03.07.00 # np 03.07.11 # jony: take a look at the startup messages (dmesg) 03.07.11 # do you know someone that can help me?? 03.07.31 # hardeep can. ;) 03.08.11 # jony: see http://bjorn.haxx.se/isd200/ for more info on what to look for 03.08.15 # hmmm should should i type dmesg in a console window?? 03.08.31 # jony: yeah 03.11.08 # may i paste the usb related output here??? 03.11.52 # you'll probably be booted... just look at the web page i mentioned to see what you should be looking for 03.11.56 # logbot'll kick you 03.12.01 # dmesg output?? 03.12.18 # ok let me see 03.13.41 # hmmm do you think if i reboot with archos pluged in it will enable this : 03.13.45 # Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... 03.14.21 # cuz the driver is supposed to be a part of latest kernel ver 03.14.39 # yes, it's been in for some time 03.15.06 # so i dont need to install anything right??? 03.15.12 # nope 03.15.21 # ok 03.15.32 # but should i reboot?? 03.15.45 # you shouldn't need to... are you not seeing the message? 03.16.16 # nope 03.16.21 # onlly this 03.17.02 # well, try a reboot then... 03.17.05 # usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xc8849000, IRQ 5 03.17.12 # ok 03.17.20 # thankz 03.17.23 Quit jony ("Cerrando la cliente") 03.18.49 # is there ay damage done if i leave the blacklight on when plugged in for long periods of time? 03.18.59 # like will the blacklight ware out at all after time? 03.33.32 # hehe http://haxx.se/linus_nielsen.jpg 03.52.44 Quit hardeep ("Read error: 666 (Connection reset by Satan)") 03.56.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.58.08 Join elinenbe_ [0] (elinenbe_@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 03.58.08 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.58.16 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (elinenbe_@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 04.02.57 Nick MT|CS is now known as MT (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 04.29.49 Join Nixed [0] (amada_n321@user-0ccepok.cable.mindspring.com) 04.29.55 # hi 04.32.42 Join archtelamon [0] (archtelamo@du185108.spa.ptd.net) 04.32.45 # hey guys 04.32.57 # i get a message when i load my jukebox recorder 04.33.07 # Hard Drive Error Pls Check Hard Drive 04.33.55 # doesn't sound pretty. 04.34.34 # anything happen to it physically? 04.34.41 # nope 04.34.43 # like 04.34.54 # dropping it. 04.34.54 # if i hold the right(forward) button 04.34.58 # it sometimes works 04.35.06 # usually its cuz the power is messed up 04.35.17 # you using archos? 04.35.23 # rockbox 04.35.23 # or rockbox? 04.36.05 # its not password locked 04.36.16 # when did the problem start? 04.36.21 # two days ago 04.36.52 # did you run scandisk on it, considering you have a windows machine? 04.36.55 # yes 04.36.58 # no errors 04.37.02 # did a Thorough 04.37.09 # cant spell lol 04.37.16 # could it be power? 04.37.20 # that's ok 04.37.26 # did you fully charge it? 04.37.57 # well it says charged 04.38.03 # but its charging right now 04.38.05 # its says 04.38.11 # Battery charging.... 04.38.46 # ok, then wait until the battery is fully charged before trying it again. Then, run scandisk with a thorough check - check for bad sectors. 04.39.24 # the boot sector might be bad, but that's just a hunch 04.39.52 # I'm not as up on this as the other guys in here 04.41.02 # ok 04.41.04 # thanks 04.41.09 # i will 04.42.37 # are you still under warranty? 04.42.55 Quit archtelamon ("Leaving") 04.55.22 Join Stevie-O [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inim89.dialup.mindspring.com) 04.55.30 # gut evenink 04.56.53 # hi 04.59.21 # sup 05.00.32 # not much. just researching battery life 05.02.44 # fun 05.02.53 # yep 05.05.18 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.06.09 Join PsycoXul [20] (psyco@adsl-67-123-42-87.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 05.13.48 Join OliverKlozoff [0] (whatsit2u@user-2iniltd.dialup.mindspring.com) 05.14.13 # what the hell is at 0x06100006? 05.16.36 # IS it best to drain the battery in the archos jb recorder completely before charging? 05.17.23 # the regular recorder? yes 05.17.23 # that's what 'deep discharge' mode is for 05.18.04 # so deep discharge will send it down to 10% battery life before it charges? 05.18.35 # my batteries don't last as long as most people report, so i'm trying new things with it. 05.18.44 # something like that 05.19.00 # * OliverKlozoff has an FM and has no need to concern himself with such matters 05.19.18 # meaning? 05.19.37 # meaning the FM has a lithium ion battery? 05.19.48 # that's right. 05.20.02 # lithium ions are completely different from NiCd and NiMh 05.20.14 # NiMH even 05.21.23 # i get 5 hours under rockbox 2.0, and close to 6 with archos os. most people say teh recorder should give you 8-10 hours. 05.25.08 Quit PsycoXul (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05.32.19 Quit Stevie-O (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05.35.09 Quit Nixed () 05.41.36 # * OliverKlozoff fires off an email 05.56.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.57.49 # * OliverKlozoff shoots everyone 06.08.29 Join PsycoXul [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-40-146.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 06.10.07 # wb PX 06.10.13 # thanks 06.18.31 # cool 06.19.02 # x-files is on and it's one of the earlier ones 06.19.08 # the ones that didn't suck 06.22.29 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 06.23.23 # hey matsl 06.23.39 # hi 06.24.32 # how goes it? 06.25.34 # goes what? 06.25.44 # dunno 06.25.47 # it I guess :P 06.26.14 # oh. that. well it goes fine thank you. 06.26.43 # lol 06.26.47 # :D 06.29.17 # * OliverKlozoff ponders what's at 0x061000006 and 0x061000007 06.35.20 Quit earHurts (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06.41.14 Join Stevie-O [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inikj9.dialup.mindspring.com) 06.50.52 # whee 06.51.36 # masl: you don't need to bother with those ROM images now, I finally got some :D 06.51.42 Quit OliverKlozoff (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.54.57 Join Nixed [0] (amada_n321@user-0ccepok.cable.mindspring.com) 06.54.59 # help! 06.55.24 # hi, I can't boot up my archos. it's giving me a read access error!! 06.55.41 # says it can't read from the hard drive 06.56.07 # maybe ya hafta chkdsk it 06.56.28 # I can attach it to the machine, but it won't let me chkdsk it. 06.56.34 # it doesn't mount 06.56.45 # but windows 2000 does see it 06.57.07 # any suggestions? 06.58.09 # newp 06.58.12 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 06.59.40 # j0 Hadaka 06.59.42 # err hardeep 06.59.57 # hey 07.01.46 # * MiChAeLoL is back 07.03.16 # so can the text editor read .nfo's yet? 07.03.41 # MiChAeLoL: no, it only reads .txt files 07.03.51 # so i have to rename the .nfo to a .txt 07.03.58 # yes 07.04.10 # ya know what would be cool... 07.04.22 # i've been meaning to change it so that the text editor is the default app for all unknown extensions 07.04.37 # if the search tool could read id3's 07.04.55 # or rather if you could make a database of id3's in one file on your computer that the search tool could look through 07.05.01 # MiChAeLoL: that's something different... see the open feature requests about an id3 database 07.05.13 # ive seen em 07.05.32 # you know what I've been thinking? 07.05.36 # if you like the idea, post a comment as such 07.05.44 # there should be an on+play command to open a file with the text editor 07.05.52 # post what comment? 07.06.01 # yah 07.06.05 # Stevie-O: yeah, that would work too 07.06.16 # lol... so i could read who ripped the album im listening to 07.06.29 # MiChAeLoL: it was me 07.06.46 # that did what? 07.06.50 # that ripped the album 07.07.00 # lol 07.07.19 # it doesn't even matter what album -- since you can't read the .nfo you only have my word to go on 07.08.14 Quit Nixed (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.08.32 # lol 07.08.50 # im still waiting to get mine in the mail 07.10.28 # Sched. Delivery: Jun 13, 2003 :D:D:D:D:D:D 07.10.49 # oh wait, crap tommorrow (today) is the 10th 07.11.11 # stupid past 12 o clock at night 07.15.55 # lol 07.16.22 # i hate it when that happens 07.17.36 # and i thought i was gunna get it a day earily 07.17.37 # lol 07.17.58 # i know... 07.18.04 # sleeping will make it come faster 07.18.09 # * MiChAeLoL is away sleep 07.26.46 Join Nixed [0] (amada_n321@user-0ccepok.cable.mindspring.com) 07.26.52 # back again 07.27.34 # oh, no, not you again! 07.27.35 # j/k 07.27.46 # so when when i boot up my archos, it says it can't read from hard drive. 07.27.51 # I connect the usb cable 07.28.02 # Windows 2000 sees it but not the partition. 07.28.15 # i think the partiton is f'd, but how do i fix it??? 07.28.33 # hm 07.28.40 # partition repair is a nasty business 07.28.46 # yes 07.28.53 # i recommend a linux fdisk 07.29.04 # don't have linux :( 07.29.13 # just windows 2000 07.29.23 # get two floppy disks 07.29.33 # got them 07.29.59 # now what? 07.30.01 # download the slackware IDE bootdisk 07.30.12 # k 07.30.14 # and the color.gz rootdisk (don't use a webbrowser for that) 07.30.40 # Linux on two floppies, no hard disk installation required :D 07.30.55 # unless cygwin has a port of cfdisk... 07.30.57 # ok, but will it see the archos? 07.31.55 # I have no idea 07.32.04 # I can make no guarantees about the integrity of your filesystem 07.32.08 # sugar. 07.32.37 # i dont' care if it kills all my mp3s, i have a back up of it. i just want to use my archos again 07.33.13 # oh 07.33.17 # then use fdisk 07.33.24 # whats the drive letter? 07.33.33 # h:, but it doesn't come up 07.33.38 # oh 07.33.42 # how do i use fdisk in windows 2000? 07.34.23 # I have no idea 07.34.32 # :( 07.34.37 # I would advise that you send an email to the list 07.34.45 # ok, I'll try a few things if i drop off, i'll try the list. 07.34.50 # thansk stevie 07.49.15 # Stevie? 07.49.21 # what do i do with color.gz? 07.49.44 Quit matsl ("Client exiting") 07.52.56 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 07.56.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.56.58 # hola Zagor 07.57.07 # hi. any progress? 07.57.29 # not much 07.57.33 # i'm stuck on this ATA thing 07.57.52 # it's accessing something at 0x061000006 -- but nothing in Rockbox references an address like that 07.58.11 # the schematics for the recorder imply that it's an invalid access, trying to do DMA or something 07.58.35 # i know. i can't say what this exact address is. but it's close enough to the ata registers we use that I still think it's related 07.58.44 # oh of that I'm sure 07.58.53 # but just wtf it's trying to do, I don't know 07.59.20 # I wrote some dummy code to make it act like regular read/write memory (no magic, what you write is what you read back) 07.59.26 # the older firmware does not progress 07.59.45 # while the newer firmware (that Linus provided) gets to show the version string 07.59.55 # ok 08.00.42 # the older firmware loops forever on 0x061000006 08.01.16 # the newer firmware access that address a few times, then displays the version and loops forever on 0x061000007 08.02.56 # lets see 08.02.58 # it writes 0xA0 08.03.44 # (to 0x061000006) 08.03.50 # then reads from 0x062000006 eight times 08.04.00 # yet ignores the value? 08.04.16 # then it writes 0x0C to 0x06200006 08.05.06 # then it reads from 0x06200006 24 times 08.05.27 # 6 is the CONTROL register 08.06.41 # hmm 08.06.55 # no 08.06.59 # Zagor. How do i format my archos when windows 2000 can't see the partition? 08.07.06 # the chip selects are wrong? 08.07.32 # any suggestions 08.07.44 # the src puts ata_control at 0x06200206 or 0x06200306 08.07.48 # Nixed: sorry, i'm no good with windows 08.07.58 # :( 08.08.11 # Stevie-O: yes. i can't remember what that 0x200 pin is for 08.08.22 # on the Recorder 08.08.32 # 0x100 maps to the ATA CS0 08.08.34 # Nixed: surely windows can format an unformatted usb disk somehow? 08.08.41 # and 0x300 maps to the ATA CS1 08.08.44 # (according to the schematics) 08.09.15 # 0x300? shouldn't that be 0x200? 08.09.33 # like I said -- according to the schematics 08.09.37 # which we all know are wrong 08.09.44 # yup 08.09.49 # however, the value being written doesn't make sense for the control register 08.10.06 # the only bits being set are marked as 'reserved' 08.10.12 # ok 08.11.31 # right 08.12.14 # according to the ATA spec 08.13.08 # hmm 08.13.14 # how do I know if the device is 'selected' or not? 08.13.49 # that's done with a register 08.13.52 Join Bagder [241] (~dast@neptunus.contactor.se) 08.14.04 # so it's 'unselected' at powerup? 08.14.43 # yes, but I think that defaults to device 0 08.14.49 # not sure though 08.14.55 # i don't understand 08.15.03 # if no device is selected 08.15.31 # morning peoples 08.15.40 # Bagder: morning 08.15.54 # according to this 08.15.58 # Stevie-O: the select register controls which device you talk to 08.16.09 # the read/write cycle should be ignored with CS1 and CS0 both negated 08.16.11 # set it to 0x10 to talk to device 1. 08.16.32 # ok, we're talking about different things :-) 08.17.30 # 0x06200006 hmm, 0010 0001 08.17.35 # 23 22 21 20 08.17.40 # where do A21 and A20 go to? 08.18.00 # i was just looking at that too 08.18.12 # it would seem that they don't even matter 08.19.59 # i wonder where this IDE_A_C goes to 08.20.36 # hmm 08.20.51 # something about this 74ac32d 08.21.13 Part Nixed 08.24.26 # ok, i gotta hit the hay 08.24.29 # its 2:30am here 08.24.35 # ok, good night 08.24.35 # gnight guys 08.24.40 # if ya find anything out, mail me 08.24.44 # yup 08.24.50 # ty and goodnight! 08.24.54 # night stevie 08.24.55 Nick Stevie-O is now known as Stevie-Bed (whatsit2u@user-2inikj9.dialup.mindspring.com) 08.29.37 # loooots of mail 08.53.06 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: the fresh-maker!") 09.00.59 Quit Stevie-Bed (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.00.59 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 09.00.59 Quit MT (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09.01.17 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 09.01.17 NJoin Stevie-Bed [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inikj9.dialup.mindspring.com) 09.01.17 NJoin MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 09.01.39 Quit Stevie-Bed (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09.26.47 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 09.54.43 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 09.56.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.38.52 Quit Hadaka (Remote closed the connection) 10.38.56 Quit thu ("Client exiting") 10.43.06 Join Naked [0] (~naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 10.43.08 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (~naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 10.51.43 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@adsl-66-124-166-183.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 11.22.44 # what's a good windows program for burning audio cds? (my brother is asking) 11.55.00 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|away (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 11.56.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.01.15 Join spiridon [0] (~spiridon@pD9E27AE3.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.07.20 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 12.07.29 Quit TotMacher (Remote closed the connection) 12.07.36 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 12.31.50 Nick Zagor|away is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 13.02.10 Quit Bagder ("Client Exiting") 13.45.15 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 13.56.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.38.29 # uh, matsl are you here? 14.38.39 # or any other player owner 14.39.09 # I'm here. 14.39.21 # what's up? 14.39.25 # does idle-poweroff work for you? i.e the power_off() function? 14.40.01 # never tried it. what version must I have? 14.40.19 # 2.0 or later 14.40.32 # maybe even 1.4 had it 14.41.00 # hmm.. come to think of it.I might have tried it. but my memory fail. what test case to run? 14.41.31 # just set idle poweroff to 1 minute and then leave it in the file browser and see if it turns off 14.42.08 # Zagor: memory starts to come back. I think that my unit got stuck during such a test. But hey. I'll test again to be sure. Should I upgrade to latest first? 14.42.26 # no, this hasn't changed for ages 14.42.39 # ok. back in a minute or two ;-) 14.42.56 # i'm getting such a lockup as you describe. i wondered if that was just me or a known bug 14.43.37 # I just set i to 1:00 (that is one minute?) 14.44.24 # it says "1m" for me 14.47.26 # oops. I was in the sleeptimer. 14.47.35 # ah 14.47.48 # no I have 1m set. w8 .... 14.49.57 # Zagor: unit hung. scroll stop. background lit. 14.50.32 # yup, that's what I get too. ok, thanks. 14.50.49 # Zagor: after pressing some keys power turned off. 14.51.25 # ! 14.52.42 Join _spiridon [0] (~spiridon@pD9E016C8.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.56.00 Quit spiridon (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14.56.10 Nick _spiridon is now known as spiridon (~spiridon@pD9E016C8.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.03.02 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 15.27.17 # * Stevie[FP] is back from [gawn] [gone 14hrs 31mins 28secs] [KS] 15.37.05 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 15.43.55 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|out (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 15.56.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.58.33 # cya Z 16.20.40 Nick Zagor|out is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 16.20.44 # wb 16.20.46 # what's a 6000? 16.20.54 # the original archos player 16.21.02 # ooooh 16.21.05 # this is interesting 16.21.09 # this is verrry interesting :) 16.21.13 # :) 16.21.28 # btw -- pre/post 4.5, or doesn't matter? 16.21.52 # the 6000 existed with both pre and port 4.5 roms 16.21.55 # ok 16.22.09 # if one examines ata.c, there are addresses like this: 16.22.16 # ATA_DATA @ 0x06104100 16.22.21 # ATA_ERROR @ 0x06100101 16.22.38 # ATA_CONTROL1 @ 0x06200206 16.22.43 # ATA_CONTROL2 @ 0x06200306 16.22.54 # yes 16.23.02 # hmmmm 16.23.09 # if ATA_CONTROL2 is for old_recorder=true 16.23.18 # then the schematics on the website are for the old recorder 16.23.30 # * Stevie[FP] flexes his l33t schematic reading skillz 16.23.40 # okay, here's the deal 16.23.43 # on the Player 16.24.02 # A20 and A21 are for the ATA -DCS0 and and -DCS1 respectively 16.24.59 # so 0x061xxxxx makes -DCS0 active 16.25.09 # and 0x062xxxxx makes -DCS1 active 16.25.25 # ah, right. i had forgotten that. 16.25.31 # heh. 16.25.34 # on the old recorder 16.26.30 # -DCS0 and -DCS1 are hooked up to 0x06xxx1xx and 0x06xxx3xx 16.26.47 # so I presume the new recorder is more like the Player and puts -DCS1 on 0x06xxx2xx 16.26.54 # a few things I don't understand 16.28.54 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA9E2B.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.30.14 # it looks like the Player only outputs those pins when *reading* from the ATA address 16.30.41 # ohhh 16.30.43 # HAHA 16.30.51 # if those 6000 schematics are right 16.30.54 # god they're morons! 16.31.43 # but how... 16.33.27 # * Stevie[FP] rubs his head 16.33.30 # yet this still makes no sense 16.33.44 # oh wait 16.33.45 # it does 16.34.50 # aha. 16.39.06 # omg 16.39.11 # it does the SAME THING as the earlier code 16.41.58 # but how 16.42.40 # wtf 16.43.02 # hmmm 16.43.05 # unless it's wrong 16.53.20 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 16.55.04 # hey amtsl 16.55.08 # matsl even 16.56.53 # Stevie[FP]: hi 17.00.02 # sup 17.14.23 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 17.43.03 # wtf 17.45.18 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.53.35 # * MiChAeLoL wonders what happened to nixed's rockbox 17.53.50 Quit mecraw (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17.54.00 # nixed? 17.54.43 Nick mecraw_ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.55.07 # " so when when i boot up my archos, it says it can't read from hard drive. 17.55.07 # I connect the usb cable 17.55.07 # Windows 2000 sees it but not the partition. 17.55.07 DBUG Sent KICK MiChAeLoL to server 17.55.07 # i think the partiton is f'd, but how do i fix it??? 17.55.07 Kick (#rockbox MiChAeLoL :No flooding!) by logbot!~bjst@labb.contactor.se 17.55.15 Join MiChAeLoL [0] (michael@12-249-226-112.client.attbi.com) 17.55.22 # lol how is 3 lines flooding 17.55.28 # 4 ;-) 17.55.56 # well, checking the partition table would tell I guess 17.57.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.58.55 # errrrrrrr 17.58.57 # errrrrrrr 17.58.59 # errrrrrrrr 17.59.10 # somethings not good 17.59.14 # something is very not good 18.00.44 # what is a 000000000000066.6.6xx000000101010101 18.00.59 # and what does it have to do with ata? 18.01.03 # where the hell is sleep defined? 18.01.11 # MiChAeLoL: shut up. 18.01.40 # ok, I found a problem 18.01.42 # Zagor: ! 18.02.27 # ok 18.02.34 # hmm 18.02.46 # maybe nawt, but still 18.03.37 # Stevie[FP]: sleep is in kernel.c 18.04.28 # hmmm 18.04.30 # this is very interesting 18.04.52 # I wonder if it has anything at all to do with the 'red led dead' 18.07.00 # ohh man 18.07.02 # mmmh 18.07.46 # if this code suffers from the same problem... 18.09.26 # * Stevie[FP] shakes Bagder to get his attention 18.09.49 # you're not exactly crystal clear ;-) 18.09.51 # I do believe I just found a rather painful error/race condition in the ATA code that might relate to 'red LED dead' 18.10.29 # there's a brief but quite existent window in which we could violate ATA spec for the software reset 18.10.37 # stick that in Zagor's face, he's the boss of that code 18.11.05 # mmkay 18.11.13 # * Stevie[FP] sees ze light 18.11.25 # haha 18.11.50 # * MiChAeLoL would bow down to Stevie[FP] if he got rid of the red led dead thinggy 18.12.15 # lessee 18.15.02 # 12mhz nets us 83ns per tick 18.15.21 # 5us would take 60.240964 ticks 18.15.24 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: it adds that extra uNF to your sex life!") 18.15.36 # 2ms would take 24096.385542 ticks 18.26.06 Join Guest1 [0] (~jirc@nat-24-25-135-217.ne.rr.com) 18.27.35 # HI! I'm having some problems with Rockbox and thought maybe some of you kind folk could help me 18.29.31 # I have the FM recorder 20gb (soon to be ugraded) version, and downloaded the latest version of rockbox as of yesterday afternoon. I downloaded to my pc and unzipped directly to the main directory. now i keep getting "dir buffer full! " messages and half the songs i've put in are in a file called "recycled" that i didn't create and all the tag info is gone 18.29.45 # ... 18.29.57 # (1) 'recycled' is the directory Windows puts your deleted files in 18.30.04 # oh 18.30.10 # okay well that makes sence 18.30.22 # still though i know i put more songs into the player then there are 18.30.26 # and what is dir buffer? 18.30.41 # that would be the memory buffer where it holds the names of the songs on the player 18.30.49 # why is it full? 18.30.51 # (2) 'dir buffer full' => you have more than 400 files in the given directory 18.31.02 # because it's not big enough to hold the dir you have? 18.31.08 # right, i mean of course i do unless i missed something 18.31.10 # you can change the maximum on the latest version 18.31.17 # the player can hold 5000 songs i thought 18.31.22 # thought ya got around the 400 file dir limit rule 18.31.33 # Guest1: it can hold as many songs as you can fit on the drive 18.31.39 # but it can only LIST 400 by default 18.31.56 # thats odd 18.32.00 # no it's not 18.32.08 # the thing doesn't have a lot of memory 18.32.15 # i think im missing something 18.32.17 # if you organize your songs into directories 18.32.24 # oh okay 18.32.27 # ... 18.32.31 # Guest1: do you have all your files in one directory? 18.32.53 # well i thought i could with rockbox thats why i wanted it, i thought it broke the 999 song barrier archos had 18.33.17 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/0334.shtml 18.33.31 # it did 18.33.57 # organize into subdirectories and use playlists 18.34.22 # with playlists the songs will always be played in that order right? 18.34.35 # not if shuffle is on 18.34.50 # oh really! good nice 18.34.57 # so how many songs can each file hold 18.35.19 # i can break it up into "a-e" "f-j" etc 18.35.28 # then create playlists 18.35.49 # is it still 999 songs per file? 18.36.00 # no 18.36.02 # up to 10000 by default, i believe 18.36.05 # playlists are like 10000 18.36.14 # ok i need food 18.36.15 # * Stevie[FP] is away [f00d] [KS-MsgLog Off] 18.36.16 # well see then thats what i mean i only have 1016 in my first file 18.36.17 # bbl 18.36.30 # and it still says buffer is full 18.37.13 # Stevie[FP]: i'm be very interested if you've found what looks like a race condition in the ata code 18.37.28 # Guest1: which version of rockbox did you download? 18.37.36 # FM Recorder 18.38.03 # version number? 18.38.26 # 2.0 18.38.53 # how many files do you have in your root directory? 18.39.09 # see basically right now i have only files in my main directory, and one is called music with 1016 songs in it and it says dir buffer is full 18.39.12 # none 18.39.15 # well files yes 18.39.16 # no songs 18.39.51 # .rockbox, music, recycled, system volume information, ajbrec.ajz and rstation.bin 18.40.22 # music is a directory with 1016 files in it? 18.40.30 # correct 18.40.46 # read this: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/0334.shtml 18.40.57 # okay 18.41.39 # see i thought that meant before you could only have 400 files in the core directory 18.41.49 # each file holding music or information 18.42.06 # which would mean i only have 6 no where near 400 18.42.27 # by default only 400 in any directory 18.42.31 # right 18.42.42 # wait does that mean only 400 songs per file? 18.44.23 # per playlist? no 18.44.44 # well no i mean you have to keep your actual songs somewhere, regardless of playlists 18.45.02 # maybe im too computer illieterate for rockbox 18.45.12 # organize them into subdirectories 18.45.53 # i have a directory for every artist, and then directories under that for the artists' albums which contain the actual mp3's 18.45.55 # with the archos os i had up to 999 songs in each file and each file was a different genre of music. what stunk though was sometimes i had more then 999 songs per that genre thats why i wanted rockbox (plus other things it can do) 18.46.22 # oh 18.46.34 # do you mean "directory" or "folder" when you say "file"? 18.46.44 # folder 18.46.45 # sorry 18.46.54 # no problem 18.47.08 # so lets say for example i had "metal, rap, rock, classical, dance" 18.47.49 # as main folders each holding 999 songs, i'd click into one and do a shuffle and just listen to random music. then i'd also have a main folder called playlists for when i wanted to listen to only one artist in random mode 18.47.59 # this is exactly waht i want to do. 18.48.08 # but with more then 999 songs 18.48.41 # i mean im going to get the 80gb drive and i'll NEED more then 999 songs per folder 18.48.58 # but if i cant i cant 18.49.45 # if i understand, you're saying i should break up the songs , for example, by artist into seperate folders then create playlists which would be my equivilant to a large folder, correct? that i can do and makes sence, if im understanding 18.49.52 # well, you can either get the bleeding edge version of rockbox and configure it to allow 10000 files per folder, or organize your music better and then create playlists for the genres too 18.50.09 # that's right 18.50.40 # is there a quicker way to create playlists then clicking each song on the jukebox to enter it? 18.51.01 # thanks so much for your help guys. i know im a bug 18.51.16 # i connected mine to a pc and used winamp to make my playlists 18.51.37 # rockbox currently has some rudimentary playlist creation functionality 18.51.48 # im also curious why the player starts as archos before starting rockbox, and why the player uses file names instead of ID3 tags 18.51.59 # yeah ill use winamp 18.52.28 # i spent the better part of yesterday afternoon renaming my files so they were "artist - song" because the player sorted by filename not ID3 tag info 18.52.39 # i got through 1000 then was tired and went to bed 18.52.57 # there are tools that will do that for you 18.53.00 # everything else i love about rockbox, its so much quicker 18.53.27 # yeah i tried music match but it only did it in a way that music match would read 18.53.48 # it would be incredibly slow if it tried to read the id3 tags for displaying them in the directory browser 18.53.58 # right, makes sence 18.54.14 # know any freeware that could help me in my renaming venture? 18.54.56 # not off the top of my head... search the mailing list or google, there are a lot out there 18.55.09 # and i guess my last pain in the butt question is how do i get rid of the songs in "recycled" to free up my hard drive space 18.55.11 # thanks 18.55.41 # oh i lied! has anyone defragged their player without problems? seems you'd have to sooner or later 18.55.50 # hook it up to windows and empty your recycle bin 18.56.19 # mp3 files are big enough that fragmentation isn't a big problem 18.56.49 # there is a way to tell windows not to put the recycler folder on the drive, search the mailing list for the how to 18.56.54 # or the FAQ 18.59.36 # wow i bet this recycled bin was a huge part of my problem. i only have 4.8gb left! 19.00.41 # Guest1: look here for a lot of useful info: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/ 19.00.55 # i didnt even know this player kept a garbage, you've all helped a lot thanks. i think i can make this player work great now 19.01.10 # good luck 19.02.26 # wierd it wont let me close out the player to unplug it 19.03.57 # just when i think i understand it, this happens,whats the worst that'll happen if i unplug before ejecting? 19.05.26 # ah there we go nevermind 19.05.54 # maybe next time i come back i'll be more savvy. I'm gonna read the rockbox and archos manuals front to back, thanks again for all your help 19.05.59 Quit Guest1 ("Leaving") 19.20.23 Join Guest1 [0] (~jirc@nat-24-25-135-217.ne.rr.com) 19.20.53 # im back lol... is there anyway to hide the non music files? i tried doing it through windows and it worked, on windows, but they are still visible in the main directory 19.21.20 Quit Guest1 (Client Quit) 19.22.15 # Guest1: read the manual 19.24.18 Join Guest1 [0] (~jirc@nat-24-25-135-217.ne.rr.com) 19.24.25 # closed the window on accident. Hmmm... if i rename the files will they still be accesible by the program? 19.24.59 # by what program? 19.25.20 # well these non music files are annoying in my directory 19.25.35 # cant hid them through windows already tried that 19.25.49 # read the manual 19.26.24 # yeah doing that right now 19.26.40 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.26.41 # i know im being annoying sorry 19.27.19 # section 6.3.2 19.34.13 # so how long have you had your archos? 19.34.49 # since February 2002, haven't used the Archos firmware since August 19.35.55 # I just got this one two weeks ago 19.36.03 # and just purchased another on ebay for my gf 19.37.27 # i thougth about getting the video one but didn't want to take the hit in battery life since I'm mainly planning on using it for mp3. the new rca video player looks pretty good for four hundred dollars over the 600 for the archos equivilant, i might get that for playing movies, or maybe just a portable dvd player who knows 19.40.02 # rockbox looks like the kind of program I'd want running my home entertainment center 19.45.10 # * Stevie[FP] is back from [f00d] [gone 1hr 8mins 55secs] [KS] 19.45.12 # myth me? 19.45.26 # myst me? ;) 19.45.33 # :P 19.45.41 # i found a potential problem with the soft reset code 19.46.17 # the soft reset code, for whatever reason, does its delaying with sleep() 19.46.49 # so for the 5us delay, it does sleep(HZ/20000) 19.47.07 # yes 19.47.09 # with HZ being 100, that winds up being sleep(0) 19.47.16 # yup 19.47.26 # the code adds 1 tick so it always sleeps at least 1 19.47.40 # so we effectively sleep until the next tick 19.48.05 # however, unless I missed something, that doesn't really assure that that will be 10ms later 19.48.30 # if we're 9.996ms into the current tick and issue a soft reset 19.48.44 # sleep(0) will only sleep for 4us 19.50.22 # now, we're talking about a 1-in-2000 chance here 19.50.33 # which, while not being very high, is actually not all that low 19.51.12 # let me take a look 19.51.16 # I once experienced a race condition on an edge-triggered interrupt 19.51.33 # the potential width for the race was about 360ns 19.53.46 # so we should change sleep() to be !TIME_AFTER instead 19.53.55 # i don't understand? 19.54.13 # effectively add another tick to each sleep 19.54.38 # not very nice either. then sleep(1) can be 2.9 ticks long 19.54.46 # indeed 19.54.57 # I figured it would be easiest to just have two routines for ATA sleeps 19.55.14 # true 19.55.14 # or at least one, for the 5us one 19.55.40 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 19.55.47 # * Stevie[FP] looks up how to do labels in gcc asm 19.56.07 # well the HZ/400 suffers from the same problem 19.57.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.57.12 # indeed 19.57.19 # but I don't think that's as serious a problem 19.57.30 # I could be wrong 19.59.22 # __asm__ __volatile___ ("mov #12, r0\n\t" "L_%=: add #-1, r0\n\tcmp/eq #0, r0\n\tbt L_%=\n\t" : : : "r0"); 19.59.54 # that looks good for a 5us delay on a 12mhz cpu (it will delay slightly longer for the 11.0592mhz Recorders, but 'too long' is rarely an issue with hardware) 20.01.47 # can you write that with #12 as a parameter? 20.05.31 # sure... 20.07.57 Join _johan_ [0] (man_25@c-aa0072d5.010-105-6c756e2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 20.15.34 # http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/rockbox/rockusleep.txt 20.15.44 # i threw a macro together all the way at the end 20.18.36 # thanks 20.19.09 # however 20.19.10 # <_johan_> how well tested is the new FM Recorder Firmware? Any risk for collapse or is it as stable as the one for the recorder 20.19.19 # we're not doing a reset yet when the LED dead starts, are we? 20.20.04 # we don't know when the dead starts 20.20.16 # other than it sits on BSY forever? 20.20.31 # _johan_: it's as stable as the other versions 20.20.48 # <_johan_> Zagor thanks 20.21.03 # Stevie[FP]: do we even know that much for sure? 20.23.30 # No idea. 20.23.49 # let see 20.23.58 # dev/head: select device 0 20.24.00 # woo. 20.24.04 # can anyone here force the redleddead easily? 20.24.32 # no =/ 20.24.44 # ok, now we read the alternate status register... 20.25.41 # several times for no apparent reason 20.25.53 # then we write to that register, which is the device control register 20.26.12 # 6 20.26.27 # we write 0x0C 20.26.29 # 6? 20.26.42 # ah, i though you were asking. :-) 20.26.56 # hehe 20.26.56 # (and by 'we' I mean the crappy archos boot firmware) 20.27.29 # hmm 20.27.39 # one of the bits we write is reserved 20.27.43 # interesting 20.27.58 # but it sets SRST and clears nIEN 20.28.12 # that puts it into reset state and enables the INTRQ 20.28.39 # yeah, we do that too in our init 20.29.24 # blah, the device software reset state diagram is icky 20.29.43 # yup :) 20.30.04 # * Stevie[FP] doesn't know what this crap means 20.32.10 # p247, ok 20.32.32 # the device shall set BSY to 1 within 400ns 20.42.38 # Jukebox 6GB 20.42.40 # Version: 4.53 20.42.44 # whee! 20.44.36 # hmmm 20.44.38 # waitaminit 20.44.53 # there's never a device 1, is there? 20.47.41 # yes. sometimes the only disk is jumpered as device 1 20.47.58 # okay 20.48.07 # Archos really needs to clean up their act. 20.48.16 # :) 20.48.34 # ata.c, line ~608 20.48.48 # /* This little sucker can take up to 30 seconds */ 20.49.00 # for perform_soft_reset() 20.49.27 # the only thing I see that says anything even close to that is when a reset occurs and there are two devices on the line 20.49.33 # yup, according to the spec. but i think that's for powered-down cdroms or something 20.50.06 # i'll see if I can find it 20.53.42 # unfortunately, "Device 1 is present" does not mean device 0 is too... 20.54.10 # "When the sample indicates that PDIAG- is not asserted and less than 31 s have elapsed since SRST was cleared to zero, then the device shall make a transition to the D0SR2: Sample_PDIAG- state." 20.54.11 # yeah but that diagram is for Device 0's reset process 20.54.22 # which page is that? 20.54.25 # ah, right. silly me :-) 20.54.37 # that was p234 20.54.43 # ah, ok, same page 20.54.48 # the diagram for device 1's reset looks like the top half of device 0's reset 20.57.41 # this code is so bizarre 20.58.04 # it reads the ATA address like 8 times, throwing away the result all but the last time 20.58.32 # ah, now I know where i got it: p33 "In Standby mode the device is capable of responding to commands but the device may take longer to complete commands than in the Idle mode. The time to respond could be as long as 30 s." 20.58.49 # do we ever put the hd in 'standby' mode? 20.58.50 # it could still be wrong though :-) 20.59.03 # we used to, before we changed to sleep 20.59.26 # the time is the same for sleep, btw 20.59.45 # "In Sleep mode the device requires a hardware or software reset or a DEVICE RESET command to be activated. The time to respond could be as long as 30 s." 20.59.57 # mmkay 21.01.21 Quit Guest1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.02.47 Join jkerman [0] (Something@156.46.57.134) 21.02.56 # hi. 21.03.11 # just picked up an archos FM recorder yesterday, and i LOVE it. 21.03.19 # if anyone with redleddead problems log on or read the logs, please try this rec firmware and see if it improves the situation: http://rockbox.haxx.se/test/usleep.ajz 21.03.26 # i also am very impressed with the rockbox software. 21.03.31 # jkerman: thanks 21.03.52 # i was wondering if there were any stability issues? im going away for the weekend, and i plan on doing some heav recording. 21.04.03 # (at the bonnaroo music fest) 21.04.21 # I'll have no way to switch back to the stock firmware if i run into trouble. 21.04.24 # Zagor: that changes the delay? 21.04.26 # think its safe? 21.04.30 # there has been some recording issues. it's hard to say if any remain. 21.04.34 # Stevie[FP]: yes 21.04.41 # ah, ok 21.04.52 # * Stevie[FP] doesn't experience it enough to be able to reproduce it reliably 21.04.56 # jkerman: keep a copy of the stock firmware in a file, then you can switch. look in the rockbox manual for "rolo" 21.06.10 # damn! you guys thought of everything! ;) 21.06.14 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EA9E03.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.06.20 # :-) 21.06.25 Nick matsl is now known as matsl|busy (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 21.06.58 # one more question/feature request for you guys while im here... 21.07.22 # i was wondering if it would be possible to record radio stations on some sort of timer. something like a "tivo" 21.07.32 # where it could wake up and record a show for me. 21.07.57 # yes it 21.08.04 # is possible, but not yet implemented 21.08.53 # cool! it seems like a simple thing to do, but there people selling tape recorders and manual timers out there for like $300. 21.09.06 # hehe 21.09.25 # <_johan_> guys, I love that you dont have this annoying little stop inbetween songs on your firmware, not finally I can listen to my DJsets without a blip 21.09.57 # _johan_: nice. it does require gapless mp3 files of course 21.10.24 # <_johan_> but that is possible while recording on you firmware as well right? 21.10.47 # <_johan_> as on the archos firmware 21.11.02 Quit _johan_ (K-lined) 21.11.11 # K-lined?? 21.19.01 # 0x48 21.19.13 # H 21.19.16 # meh 21.22.19 # i need a nice little app that I can take a screenshot and it will save a png 21.22.23 # IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? 21.23.18 # gimp 21.23.29 # gimp is too damn hard to use 21.23.32 # and I can't paste 21.23.52 Nick matsl|busy is now known as matsl (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 21.24.17 # ok 21.24.25 # anyone who wants to see how poorly I'm progressing 21.24.38 # http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/jbremu/newplayer_1.jpg 21.24.40 # http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/jbremu/newplayer_2.jpg 21.27.03 # looks good 21.27.42 # with the possible exception of the HD Error 21.28.22 # :-) 21.28.58 # * Stevie[FP] notes that their lcd output code is not very bright 21.33.43 # surprised? ;) 21.33.48 # no 21.33.49 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 21.33.58 # the code's not very optimized 21.34.10 # for example, I see code like this: 21.34.13 # and #0x80, r0 21.34.14 # tst r0, r0 21.34.23 # to see if bit 7 is set in r0 21.36.43 # however, the following would perform equally well: tst #0x80, r0 21.41.31 # * Stevie[FP] wonders wtf is meaningful in the sector/head/cylinder registers 21.48.14 # Zagor: any ideas? 21.51.25 # * Stevie[FP] fires a nerf gun at Zagor 21.53.24 # wow this thing's badly written 21.57.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.59.53 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 22.01.20 # do we know if our hard drives support the PACKET command feature set? 22.06.48 # http://download.com.com/3000-2141-10178233.html?tag=lst-3-9 <- nice tagging program :D 22.07.42 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB99A2E.ipt.aol.com) 22.07.56 # hey hi everyoen 22.09.32 # hello 22.09.41 # hello mic 22.12.17 # hello Bjorn and co 22.12.29 # * tracktheripper is pleased his webcam is working 22.30.16 # * thu is looking for a nice way to encode and stream his webcam 22.43.49 # Stevie[FP]: only ATAPI devices (cdroms, tape drives etc) support the packet interface 22.44.12 # I take it that excludes our HDs? 22.44.19 # yes 22.44.23 # mkay 22.44.57 # hmm 22.45.14 # don't we have the ATA interrupt connected? 22.45.46 # yes, but we don't use it 22.45.51 # oh 22.45.52 # which IRQ? 22.46.06 # umm, don't remember 22.46.31 # pacr1 hmm 22.46.43 # irq0 is at trap vector 64... 22.47.16 # PACR1 == 0x0102 22.47.32 # so PA12 is set as IRQ0 22.48.30 # and it would appear that INTRQ is connected to PA12 via massive abuse of a stupid multiplexor instead of a simple NOT gate 22.55.37 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) 22.56.46 # Hello, world! 22.56.56 # that's been done 22.57.07 # mh? 22.57.14 # printf("Hello, world!\n"); 22.57.23 # http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/jbremu/newplayer_1.jpg <- but have you seen *this* done yet? 22.58.35 # hmm i would say not :) but what is it exactly 22.58.40 # well whats it say? 22.59.17 # ss1815 lcd emulator... 22.59.25 # no on the picture 22.59.50 # version 4.53 ? 23.00.00 # ... what kind of Jukebox do you have? 23.00.09 # recorder 20 23.00.22 # then try this one: http://www.qrpff.net/~stevie/jbremu/2ndss.jpg 23.01.12 Join montykid [0] (~montykid@205.232.76.254) 23.01.31 # is it an archos emulator ? :) 23.01.40 # not quite 23.01.45 # but it's getting there 23.02.18 # what is the use ? 23.05.14 # if any 23.05.56 Part montykid 23.06.24 # aww damnit 23.06.30 # I'm going to have to do interrupt support >:( 23.06.41 # yes 23.07.10 # the archos player firmware appears to use the ATA interrupt 23.07.25 # (hello?) 23.10.34 Join jjmontem [0] (~montykid@205.232.76.83) 23.14.01 Part jjmontem 23.14.22 Quit BoD[] ("eza") 23.14.34 # where do you get those rockbox emu's? 23.14.41 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m198.net195-132-85.noos.fr) 23.15.38 # what rockbox emu's? 23.19.15 # (???) 23.20.34 Join zebda57 [0] (~jirc@AMetz-101-1-5-49.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.20.38 # hi all 23.20.41 Join archtelamon [0] (archtelamo@du185119.spa.ptd.net) 23.20.44 # hey guys 23.20.51 # howdy 23.20.51 # MiChAeLoL: he is writing it 23.20.56 # is it possible to overload rechargabke batteries? 23.21.06 # yes 23.21.07 Quit edx () 23.21.08 # i think i overloaded my batteries and now my Archos will not load 23.21.23 # would that be the root of my problem> 23.21.41 # cuz earlier it was saying:"Hard Drive Error Please Check HD" 23.21.41 # oh 23.21.42 # Zagor 23.21.47 # I just get my 2nd archos jukebox : the first was a 20GB (upgraded to 80GB) recorder and this one - the last - is a FM 20 GB recorder 23.22.34 # archtelamon: could be. bad batteries can cause very weird behaviour. 23.22.40 # thanks 23.22.47 # my hypothesis 23.22.47 # I need a 'nix program to make a fat32 fs 23.22.51 # is correct 23.23.27 # Stevie[FP]: mkdosfs -F 32 23.23.35 # stevie@fpay69:~$ mkdosfs 23.23.35 # bash: mkdosfs: command not found 23.23.50 # dosfstools-2.8.src.tar.gz 23.23.55 # want it? 23.23.59 # But I buy it from canada (hotmp3gear) so I get it with an Us power supply 110V and I m in france where wqe use 220V , SO I d like to know if I could use a universal power supply ? for example I ve one of 500ma and I see in some shops some of 800ma, so my question is could I use the 800mA power supply without problem ?? and if I use the 500mA will it make the charging ti,e longer ? 23.24.06 # yeah (but not via dcc) 23.24.06 # thanks for your answers 23.24.18 # i'll need to wget 23.24.26 # zebda57: yes the 800mA will work fine 23.24.34 Quit archtelamon (Client Quit) 23.24.34 # if you have the correct plug and polarity 23.24.35 Join montykid [0] (~montykid@205.232.76.83) 23.24.37 # Stevie[FP]: http://storebror.haxx.se/dosfstools-2.8.src.tar.gz 23.24.54 # * Stevie[FP] connects 23.25.04 # 403 forbidden 23.25.06 # irc://efnet 23.25.11 # im forbidden! 23.25.13 # * Stevie[FP] cries 23.25.14 # hang on 23.25.16 # ok Zagor, thanks, but If I use the 500ma what happens ? it takes more time to charge 23.25.23 # zebda57: yes 23.25.29 Quit montykid (Client Quit) 23.25.33 # Stevie[FP]: try again 23.25.38 # yay 23.25.52 # not even a configure 23.25.55 # simple program 23.26.00 # zagor: I could use universal power supply of 800 mA and higher ?? e.g. 1000mA ?, will it work 23.26.05 # made for linux 23.26.50 # everything still uses configure :P 23.27.10 # okay lessee 23.27.19 # a 256mb hard drive should be enough to start with, no? 23.28.44 # zebda57: actually for the fm recorder I don't know. I don't have the fm. 23.30.41 # zagor: thanks I stop my question now, here in france it is already 23:45 sO good night all 23.30.47 # mmh 23.30.49 Quit zebda57 ("Leaving") 23.30.50 # maybe 256mb is a bit much 23.31.23 # * Stevie[FP] makes a 64MB hd 23.32.17 # You must set heads sectors and cylinders. 23.32.17 # You can do this from the extra functions menu. 23.32.20 # meh 23.32.55 # let's see, that's 131072 sectors 23.33.38 # lets see, 8 heads * 128 cylinders * 128 sectors per cylinder will work 23.34.04 # gah 23.34.09 # I can only do 63 23.36.11 # errr 23.36.45 # anybody know the code for a fat32 partition ? 23.37.31 # 0x0c or 0x0b iirc 23.39.20 # hmm 23.39.36 # one says 'win95 fat32' the other says 'win95 fat32 (LB' [I believe it's trying to say 'LBA'] 23.41.21 # 0x0b 23.41.32 # 0x0c says 'fat32 using extended int13 services(?)' 23.42.39 # meh 23.42.44 # * Stevie[FP] wonders how to do that... 23.43.00 # never mind the partition type. neither archos nor rockbox cares. 23.43.34 # it's frequently incorrect anyway... 23.44.00 # okay 23.44.06 # now for a real challeneg 23.44.09 # challenge even 23.44.24 # it's trivial to mount a file as a partition using -o loop 23.45.23 # but I need to figure out how to treat a file like it's an actual HD :-o 23.46.16 # there is no such layer in linux. you need to write the ata emulation layer, methinks 23.46.26 # ftp://ftp.hq.nasa.gov/pub/ig/ccd/enhanced_loopback/ 23.46.29 # or not :) 23.52.09 # Zagor will there ever be an "Archos Emulator" on the site? 23.54.33 # can I ask a generic C question? 23.54.56 # if i have a memory pointer, and call realloc, can I leak memory that way? 23.55.17 # or will it free the previous block if it moves the data 23.56.16 # tracktheripper: maybe, if someone writes one 23.56.27 # MT: it will free the old block 23.56.34 # ace 23.57.05 Quit thu ("Client exiting") 23.57.07 # but only if realloc succeeds 23.57.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.57.25 # which it of course does most of the time ;-)