--- Log for 02.07.103  Server: einstein.freenode.net  Channel: #rockbox
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00.03.01 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Since today, I can cold-start Rockbox, looks like I now got all the missing inits.
00.03.12 #       <Zagor> nice!
00.03.49 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Yeah, it's now ready for flash. but I don't have the chip. That's depressing.
00.04.04 #       <Zagor> yeah, it's really ironic
00.04.43 #       <[IDC]Dragon> It's on order, but just got delayed to in 2-3 weeks.
00.07.01 #       <[IDC]Dragon> In fact, one little thing is missing: the loop that copies Rockbox into place. That'll be the scrambled image which the boot rom starts.
00.07.34 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I don't want to scramble Rockbox, it's pointless and takes time.
00.08.27 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I'm rather thinking about compressing it, so we can cram 2 firmwares in.
00.09.49 #       <Zagor> good idea to have a scrambled boot loader
00.10.25 #       <Zagor> personally i think i would choose an uncompressed rockbox, for minimum boot time
00.10.33 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Not really, we just have to. That's the way the rom starts the stuff, no choice.
00.11.13 #       <Zagor> yeah, i know. i mean the idea to have a small loader scrambled instead of the whole of rockbox is good
00.11.38 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I was researching about algorithms that are very fast to decompress.
00.12.33 #       <[IDC]Dragon> It may hide in the disk startup time.
00.13.18 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Look at this, if you like: Für die Herstellung in der Mikrowelle legt man die Maiskörner in eine große Papiertüte und erhitzt sie bei 450 Watt sieben bis acht Minuten lang. Zwischendurch immer wieder schütteln. Bei der klassischen Zubereitung Cocosöl in einen Topf oder eine Pfanne mit Deckel geben und erhitzen. Dann die Maiskörner dazugeben (darauf achten, dass sie nicht übereinander liegen). Deckel schließen und Topf bzw. Pfanne zuerst 
00.13.18 #       <[IDC]Dragon>  
00.13.21 #       <Zagor> i've tested pic now, and unfortunately the gcc-inserted simulated opcodes count as external references.
00.13.41 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Sorry, wrong clipboard.
00.13.51 #       <Zagor> so plugins without such functions work, but not the others
00.14.23 #       <[IDC]Dragon> What are simulated opcodes?
00.14.45 #       <Zagor> things like __mulsi3 and __sdivsi3
00.15.25 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Can we blame the linker for being crappy?
00.16.47 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Maybe that library stuff can be build as PIC, too?
00.17.41 #       <Zagor> maybe, i don't know.
00.29.36 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Is there anybody with a broken box, from which I could scrap the flash chip?
00.30.27 #       <Zagor> none that I know of
00.30.41 #       <[IDC]Dragon> (I'd better ask that to the group)
00.31.09 #       <Zagor> yeah
00.36.52 #       <Zagor> bed time. night all!
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01.08.28 #       <tracktheripper> hello
01.12.35 #       <MT> just did an unintentional battery test
01.12.51 #       <MT> set my fm to wakeup at 11:45 am
01.13.00 #       <MT> and it just conked out
01.13.09 #       <MT> forgot to plug it in
01.13.24 #       <MT> so it did 12 hours 23 minutes
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01.19.25 #       <tracktheripper> hello everyone
01.22.41 #       <tracktheripper> IS there a way to convert the Archos into a "Master"
01.22.52 #       <BoD[]> master whatr
01.22.57 #       <tracktheripper> master USB
01.23.09 #       <tracktheripper> after all the Archos uses the same USB port found on a computer
01.23.45 #       <MT> no
01.23.53 #       <tracktheripper> why not?
01.23.59 #       <MT> because it doesnt
01.24.04 #       <MT> its not a host
01.24.08 #       <MT> its a device
01.24.20 #       <MT> its the same reason you cant plug a hard disk into a usb printer
01.24.23 #       <MT> theres no controller
01.24.31 #       <tracktheripper> :))
01.25.20 #       <tracktheripper> but the Archos is the only device that has the rectangular port, not the square B port!!
01.26.03 #       <tracktheripper> just think about it! no more memmory cards!
01.26.09 #       <tracktheripper> 10Gb photo wallet!
01.26.33 #       <MT> there is a device that does that
01.26.47 #       <tracktheripper> you could even use the LCD on the Archos as a viewfinder or picture viewer when plugged into ur camera!!
01.26.50 #       <MT> that 'rectangular' port is a mini-b
01.27.11 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
01.27.27 #       <PsycoXul> tracktheripper: the older archos' having the 'A' port was a like a mistake
01.27.41 #       <PsycoXul> tracktheripper: they shouldn't have.. they're not master devices, and it's against the USB spec
01.27.42 #       <tracktheripper> in wat way was it a mistake?
01.27.47 #       <tracktheripper> ohhhhhhhhhhhh
01.27.48 #       <tracktheripper> :-(
01.28.50 #       <tracktheripper> so if the archos is a "slave"...........
01.29.04 #       <tracktheripper> ((gets his whip out)) ARCHOS, go and make the tea :-)))
01.29.07 #       <tracktheripper> sorry bad joke
01.29.08 #       <tracktheripper> :)
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03.00.28 #       <ch0ppedl1ver> blah
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03.00.29 #       <Stevie-O> anyone here have any experience with tv-out on a voodoo3?
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03.02.26 #       <earHurts> How are you gentlemen !!
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03.04.28 #       <earHurts> You have no chance to survive make your time.
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03.11.09 #       <Stevie-O> un huh
03.11.12 #       <Stevie-O> uh huh, even
03.12.27 #       <earHurts> You are on the way to destruction 
03.15.24 #       <earHurts> hoe's the emu?
03.15.37 #       <Stevie-O> havent worked on it lately
03.16.54 #       <earHurts> noooooooo!
03.17.34 #       <Stevie-O> riight.
03.18.37 #       <earHurts> just busy?
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03.34.38 #       <ch0ppedl1ver> whee.
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03.34.43 #       <adi|ems> howdy all...
03.34.49 #       <ch0ppedl1ver> this damn server needs a fscking check_pings()
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03.39.28 #       <ricII> hi 
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03.42.11 #       <ricII> I see the dyn-pl patch is approved! :)
03.45.59 #       <hardeep> ricII: yes, finally... :)
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03.47.03 #       <adi|ems> heheh cool huh?
03.47.13 #       <adi|ems> yawn.. okay... back to not saving ppls lives...
03.47.21 #       <adi|ems> be home in a bit.. talk to you all later..
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03.47.35 #       <earHurts> can somwebody verify something fir me?.
03.48.12 #       <hardeep> verified
03.48.21 #       <earHurts> thanks
03.48.25 #       <hardeep> np
03.49.04 #       <earHurts> the latest daily tar doesn't see to include /plugins
03.49.19 #       <hardeep> earHurts: the next one should, Zagor made a fix
03.49.25 #       <earHurts> ah
03.50.10 #       <earHurts> i d/l'd it becase my regular build based on cvs, fails on the link
03.50.40 #       <earHurts> undef'd refs in viewer.o
03.50.57 #       <hardeep> earHurts: they are also available at rockbox.haxx.se/apps/plugins
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03.51.13 #       <earHurts> any ideas?
03.52.32 #       <earHurts> the whole source of plugins is available?
03.52.57 #       <hardeep> earHurts: yes...  that points to the latest CVS
03.54.17 #       <earHurts> I'd like to get my regular build working; why would the link fail? This build's been working for months
03.54.40 #       <hardeep> earHurts: are building from a clean source tree?
03.54.48 #       <hardeep> er, are you
03.55.19 #       <ricII> hardeep: so what is the prob. with the bookmark patch ?
03.55.23 #       <earHurts> I'm doing a make clean first
03.55.40 #       <earHurts> but I have some long standing source mods
03.56.18 #       <hardeep> earHurts: but have you applied any of your patches?  i'd recommend starting with fresh cvs and doing a build, just to make sure you don't have any relics lingering around
03.57.18 #       <hardeep> ricII: it doesn't bookmark dynamic playlists currently
03.57.50 #       <hardeep> ricII: plus I deleted several settings it was using for resume, although it's pretty easy to add them back through another mechanism
03.58.02 #       <earHurts> good idea. I'll try that. If I do a cvs get clean copy, how can I best save my modifications?
03.58.26 #       <hardeep> earHurts: "cvs diff" see documentation on making patches
03.59.04 #       <earHurts> hmm. make a diff of my mods, get the clean copy, then apply the patch?
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03.59.19 #       <diddystar5> hey
03.59.33 #       <hardeep> earHurts: yeah, although i would make sure everything builds properly before reapplying your patches
03.59.40 #       <hardeep> hi diddystar5
03.59.51 #       <ricII> after 10 jul I can't probely devote some real time on rockbox 
03.59.59 #       <earHurts> yeah, that's what I meant ;)
04.00.05 #       <hardeep> ricII: well get cracking then... =)
04.00.17 #       <earHurts> what happens july 10?
04.00.40 #       <diddystar5> hardepp: you wouldn't mind making me a source bzip ould you? :)
04.00.45 #       <ricII> holy day's at work, well minor staff.
04.01.13 #       <earHurts> huh?
04.02.11 #       <ricII> just ~10 people including me mostly idleling...
04.02.25 #       <hardeep> diddystar5: sure, gimme a sec...
04.02.39 #       <earHurts> oh.
04.02.40 #       <diddystar5> hardeep: sorry meant hardeep not hardepp
04.02.55 #       <diddystar5> hardeep: thanks
04.03.04 #       <hardeep> diddystar5: you could probably also do it using wget on rockbox.haxx.se/apps, etc.
04.03.40 #       <hardeep> er s/do it/get it
04.04.08 #       <diddystar5> hardeep: i'll try that
04.04.56 #       <ricII> earHurts: I realy tried getting my dyn-pl idea to code but crazyness at work force hardeep to reimplement it.
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04.06.26 #       <hardeep> diddystar5: hardeeps.freeshell.org/rockbox.tar.gz
04.06.35 #       * ch0ppedl1ver yawns
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04.07.40 #       * Stevie-O burns slackware 9 to a cd
04.08.42 #       <Stevie-O> people might ask, why pay the extra $299 to get a dvd-cdrw combo drive in your laptop
04.08.44 #       <Stevie-O> that's why!
04.08.49 #       <ricII> little use for in on cd, Stevie-O sould just install on hd.
04.09.22 #       <Stevie-O> i see little use in installing an .iso file onto a hard drive
04.09.31 #       <Stevie-O> aside from mounting it with -o loop
04.09.35 #       <ricII> \losetup ?
04.09.46 #       <Stevie-O> and even then, I have to get the damn thing onto the machine in the first place, don't I?
04.10.02 #       <ricII> chroot
04.10.17 #       <Stevie-O> chroot?
04.10.34 #       <Stevie-O> chroot will only change the apparent root directory
04.10.39 #       <Stevie-O> i fail to see how that will help anything :P
04.11.23 #       <ricII> untar base. chroot do remoin stuff, reboot
04.11.52 #       <Stevie-O> ....
04.11.56 #       <Stevie-O> i don't think you understand
04.12.03 #       <Stevie-O> the iso isn't on the machine i'm installing to
04.13.01 #       <ricII> ok..
04.13.44 #       <diddystar5> hardeeps: thanks       i also figured out how to wget :)
04.13.46 #       <ricII> I'm spoiled,,,, of boor enet|:
04.14.09 #       <Stevie-O> if i had gigabit ethernet it might be feasible to just copy the file over
04.14.09 #       <ricII> eh boot enet:
04.14.14 #       <hardeep> diddystar5: yeah, me too. :)  works pretty well for getting latest cvs
04.14.26 #       <ricII> my rom can do that..
04.15.59 #       <Stevie-O> which makes more sense? CPU temp > sys temp, or sys temp > CPU temp?
04.16.24 #       <ricII> first
04.16.35 #       <Stevie-O> thought so
04.16.35 #       <Stevie-O> SYS Temp: +42.3°C (limit = +45°C, hysteresis = +40°C)
04.16.36 #       <Stevie-O> CPU Temp: +31.6°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +55°C)
04.16.56 #       <Stevie-O> it would seem that something's not quite right
04.17.35 #       <ricII> depends on ambiant temp, and cpu temp history..
04.17.44 #       * Stevie-O has no idea
04.18.00 #       <Stevie-O> i went through hell to convince lm_sensors to compile correctly
04.18.16 #       <ricII> but 42 is high..
04.18.32 #       <Stevie-O> for cpu? or for sys?
04.18.54 #       <Stevie-O> I think that the cpu and sys temps are swapped
04.19.21 #       <ricII> sys, e.g. my 4900 switch is rated for until 40
04.19.53 #       <Stevie-O> cuz that's a very low cpu temp
04.19.53 #       <diddystar5> gotta go        my mom is getting mad
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04.21.37 #       <ricII> bookmark patch does't seem verry problematic on first glimse..
04.22.34 #       <hardeep> ricII: the biggest issue I had was with the multiple bookmarks in one file
04.23.05 #       <hardeep> ricII: which is not very compatible if we start saving dynamic playlists (which I think we should do)
04.25.13 #       <ricII> see your point..
04.25.34 #       <ricII> I will sleep on it some more..
04.26.46 #       <ricII> still think the dyn-pl is clean
04.30.15 #       <hardeep> clean in terms of?
04.30.40 #       <ricII> concept.
04.31.47 #       <hardeep> and bookmarks aren't?
04.32.12 #       <ricII> don;t know yet
04.33.14 #       <ricII> they sould be able to coexist..
04.33.57 #       <hardeep> oh, agreed.  I wasn't saying that they can't coexist... just they the current implementation of bookmarks doesn't...  a few changes are all that's required
04.35.27 #       <ricII> realy have to sleep, only got 4h left..
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04.49.14 #       <thu> hey
04.49.30 #       <Stevie-O> yeh
04.49.44 #       <thu> I was just looking at the Neuros
04.49.56 #       <thu> looks like a pretty nice thing
04.50.31 #       <thu> Stevie-O: know anything about it?
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04.53.09 #       <midknight2k3> helo
04.53.51 #       <Stevie-O> never heardofit
04.53.55 #       <thu> http://tinyurl.com/fq2f
04.54.07 #       <thu> open source ogg firmware
04.54.11 #       <thu> among other things
04.54.16 #       <midknight2k3> for archos?
04.54.20 #       <thu> nah
04.54.22 #       <thu> it's some other player
04.54.24 #       <midknight2k3> oh lol
04.54.29 #       <midknight2k3> hah
04.54.37 #       <midknight2k3> Neuros! I've seen that!
04.55.14 #       <thu> it has some nice features that I was thinking could be implemented in rockbox
04.55.25 #       <midknight2k3> What I want now is that iRiver IHP-100
04.55.44 #       <midknight2k3> What do you think, thu? About the features
04.55.47 #       <midknight2k3> Which ones?
04.55.52 #       <thu> syncronization
04.56.02 #       <thu> more preciselly storing the whole PC library on the archos
04.56.08 #       <midknight2k3> yes
04.56.10 #       <thu> and being able to request a song for the next sync
04.56.26 #       <thu> that sounds somewhat cool
04.56.37 #       <thu> btw I have a problem with my fm recorder
04.56.54 #       <thu> instead of turning off completelly the backlight keeps flickering for awhile
04.57.04 #       <thu> eventually it turns off but it flickers for quite some time
04.57.11 #       <midknight2k3> odd
04.57.32 #       <thu> big problem is that I don't have any warranty papers anymore
04.57.32 #       <midknight2k3> never heard of it
04.57.35 #       <midknight2k3> uh ho
04.57.37 #       <midknight2k3> oh
04.57.49 #       <thu> and even if I did it costs too much to send the thing to the other coast and back
04.57.54 #       <midknight2k3> you could take a peek inside to see if there's a damaged connector or something
04.58.11 #       <thu> thing is in both the firmware and rockbox it does the same thing
04.58.19 #       <thu> and there is no flicker when the light is on
04.58.32 #       <midknight2k3> just when its supposed to turn off?
04.58.38 #       <thu> yes
04.58.50 #       <midknight2k3> very, very odd
04.59.14 #       <thu> the only problem with that is that it drains the battery
04.59.22 #       <thu> otherwise it doesn't bother me in any way
04.59.45 #       <thu> whoa.. the iRiver is expensive
04.59.48 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
04.59.49 #       <thu> 350 GBP?
04.59.50 #       <midknight2k3> VERY
04.59.56 #       <midknight2k3> like 489 us
04.59.59 #       <midknight2k3> i think
05.00.03 #       <thu> what does it have inside?
05.00.05 #       <midknight2k3> but it's very nice
05.00.09 #       <thu> heh only 10G drive
05.00.10 #       <midknight2k3> 10gb hard drivwe
05.00.12 #       <thu> sounds crazy
05.00.12 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.00.15 #       <midknight2k3> but a lot more
05.00.21 #       <midknight2k3> it can do 4 different formate
05.00.22 #       <thu> and it's not even OUT yet
05.00.27 #       <thu> bleh screw wma
05.00.28 #       <midknight2k3> formats
05.00.33 #       <midknight2k3> it can record
05.00.37 #       <thu> doesn't the archos read wavs?
05.00.38 #       <midknight2k3> it has a lot of stuff
05.00.41 #       <thu> archos can do that too
05.00.41 #       <midknight2k3> nope
05.00.44 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.00.55 #       <midknight2k3> i don't really get it but it's got good looks so I like it
05.01.09 #       <thu> I heard the interface on the ipod is nice
05.01.17 #       <thu> but I didn't get my hands on one yet
05.01.17 #       <midknight2k3> ahh
05.01.26 #       <midknight2k3> yeah iriver's is supposed to be superb
05.01.30 #       <thu> that's one of the weak parts of the archos
05.01.35 #       <thu> the screen is too small
05.02.02 #       <thu> btw where can I get an archos remote from?
05.02.03 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.02.10 #       <midknight2k3> there is none for fm recorder
05.02.25 #       <thu> crap
05.02.27 #       <thu> The great thing abou the iHP-100 is its ability to transfer files using Windows Explorer, something that most people will appreciate.
05.02.28 #       <midknight2k3> yes it sucks
05.02.36 #       <thu> yay they discovered usb-storage
05.02.40 #       <midknight2k3> I wish I had it
05.02.45 #       <thu> me too
05.02.49 #       <midknight2k3> There's a lot of little niceties
05.02.54 #       <midknight2k3> especially, the screen
05.03.08 #       <thu> I'm not impressed
05.03.09 #       <midknight2k3> since this came up the rioriot's screen was the best
05.03.11 #       <midknight2k3> what?
05.03.16 #       <thu> I'd rather take that neuros
05.03.19 #       <thu> the iriver
05.03.27 #       <thu> the neuros has another nice thing
05.03.33 #       <thu> the drive is in a 'backpack'
05.03.39 #       <thu> and the player can be separated from it
05.03.40 #       <midknight2k3> seriously?
05.03.43 #       <thu> yeha
05.03.46 #       <thu> yeah :)
05.03.58 #       <thu> so you can take 128M with you and leave the drive behind
05.04.10 #       <thu> and it also has an integrated FM transmitter
05.04.19 #       <midknight2k3> YES WE SEE IT'S VERY COOL
05.04.20 #       <thu> that's another thing I'm looking to get for the archos
05.04.22 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.04.25 #       <thu> :P
05.04.37 #       <midknight2k3> the iHP should go down to like 299 though when it's finally out
05.04.57 #       <midknight2k3> i mean, a 10gb iPod is 299, and a 10 gig iriver for 499?
05.05.28 #       <thu> and a 20G archos? :)
05.05.33 #       <midknight2k3> LESS!
05.05.39 #       <midknight2k3> archos, overall, is the best
05.05.46 #       <midknight2k3> fm recorder - you can't beat that
05.05.57 #       <thu> the neuros comes close
05.06.01 #       <midknight2k3> with rockbox, you have something that could sell for like 500-600
05.06.12 #       <midknight2k3> if it was archos' firmware
05.06.19 #       <midknight2k3> and it was standard
05.06.20 #       <thu> uhm
05.06.25 #       <midknight2k3> ok not 600
05.06.27 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.06.27 #       <thu> :)
05.06.36 #       <midknight2k3> but more than 279.99
05.06.48 #       <thu> how much for an fm recorder + fm transmitter + car kit?
05.07.00 #       <midknight2k3> uh
05.07.03 #       <midknight2k3> 279.99
05.07.06 #       <midknight2k3> 19.99
05.07.10 #       <midknight2k3> 29.99
05.07.17 #       <midknight2k3> EQUALS about 325 bucks
05.07.30 #       <thu> the neuros is exactly that at $350
05.07.40 #       <thu> + it plays oggs now :P
05.07.41 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.07.46 #       <midknight2k3> i dont care about OGG
05.07.50 #       <midknight2k3> what the hell?
05.07.59 #       <midknight2k3> i guess it's just another feature, but..
05.07.59 #       <thu> me neither that much.. I have tons of mp3s 
05.08.03 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.08.04 #       <thu> but ogg is better than wma
05.08.09 #       <midknight2k3> i guess
05.08.11 #       <thu> some people are all into it
05.08.18 #       <midknight2k3> but neuros doesnt DO wma so there's no comparison
05.08.21 #       <midknight2k3> unless it can?
05.08.24 #       <midknight2k3> not I
05.08.35 #       <thu> neither does the archos
05.08.47 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.08.49 #       <midknight2k3> whatever.
05.09.01 #       <midknight2k3> archos is better, it has much other stuff
05.09.05 #       <thu> hmm they have a thing in the neuros
05.09.12 #       <thu> when you hear something on the radio you hit a button
05.09.17 #       <midknight2k3> does NEUROS have INVERT? does it have GAMES? a CHIP8 emulator?
05.09.19 #       <thu> and it records 30s of the song
05.09.22 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.09.27 #       <midknight2k3> and match it up
05.09.32 #       <thu> then when you sync it uploads it and recognizes it
05.09.41 #       <thu> chip8 emulator?
05.09.44 #       <midknight2k3> dah who cares
05.09.47 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.09.50 #       <thu> what's that
05.10.01 #       <midknight2k3> you get like 15 more games and a chip8 emulator somewhere close by
05.10.11 #       <midknight2k3> it can make that archos play chip8 games
05.10.15 #       <midknight2k3> breakout, pont, etc
05.10.20 #       <midknight2k3> ponG
05.10.23 #       <thu> games on the archos suck
05.10.25 #       <thu> big time
05.10.33 #       <midknight2k3> i suppose
05.10.41 #       <thu> mostly because the buttons and small screen
05.10.42 #       <midknight2k3> but still, the archos has more features you have to admit
05.11.09 #       <thu> I think I'll drop that sync request on sf.net
05.11.19 #       <midknight2k3> you do that
05.11.28 #       <midknight2k3> we get new sound settings soon!
05.11.35 #       <thu> heh I'd even work on that if I had any idea what's going on
05.12.18 #       <midknight2k3> something like a feature that looks at the settings and tells if they will, when combined, make the sound clip
05.12.44 #       <thu> I had some problems with the sound settings recently
05.12.46 #       <midknight2k3> http://archos.com/products/av300_series.html?sid=j22o242jb2k33kkboky3fk                       <--neat!
05.12.50 #       <thu> loudness at 10 
05.12.51 #       <midknight2k3> grr
05.12.53 #       <thu> volume way up
05.12.57 #       <midknight2k3> ohh that's really high
05.13.03 #       <thu> beyond 90% the sound dies
05.13.11 #       <midknight2k3> wow
05.13.14 #       <midknight2k3> report the bug
05.13.29 #       <thu> I'll get the latest build now and see if it happens again
05.13.34 #       <thu> I have a fairly old build
05.13.39 #       <midknight2k3> WHOA!!!
05.13.46 #       <midknight2k3> see that archos link?
05.13.51 #       <thu> yeah it's sweet
05.13.56 #       <thu> expensive like hell probably
05.13.58 #       <midknight2k3> you can attach a camera that takes 3.3MP pics!
05.14.03 #       <midknight2k3> three point three
05.14.07 #       <midknight2k3> MEGAPIXELS
05.14.10 #       <thu> crap
05.14.14 #       <midknight2k3> i want it.
05.14.16 #       <midknight2k3> I WANT IT!
05.14.22 #       <thu> you can't have a good camera attached
05.14.26 #       <thu> even if it does 10MP
05.14.36 #       <thu> I'd rather have my archos read the flash cards
05.14.41 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.14.42 #       <thu> as it already does in the multimedia ver
05.14.54 #       <thu> it's a matter of optics and stuff
05.15.05 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.15.20 #       <thu> I like the idea of having a webcam on it though
05.15.27 #       <thu> so I can drop video recording on the drive
05.15.31 #       <thu> even though it's crappy
05.15.58 #       <midknight2k3> the new one can read memory cards too
05.16.04 #       <midknight2k3> video recorder..
05.16.19 #       <midknight2k3> plus FM radio and remote control
05.16.35 #       <thu> $600
05.16.36 #       <thu> heh
05.16.48 #       <midknight2k3> WHAT?
05.16.51 #       <midknight2k3> never mind
05.16.56 #       <thu> http://archos.com/products/prw_500542.html
05.16.59 #       <midknight2k3> i shall have someone buy it and evaluate for me.
05.17.03 #       <thu> :P
05.17.11 #       <thu> I'd rather have someone buy it for me so I can evaluate it
05.17.22 #       <midknight2k3> yeh lol
05.17.30 #       <thu> heh you can have a laptop for that money
05.17.38 #       * thu is currently laptopless
05.17.47 #       * midknight2k3 too
05.18.03 #       <thu> how much mpeg4 can you record in 20G anyway?
05.18.17 #       <midknight2k3> heh
05.18.21 #       <midknight2k3> quite a bit
05.18.26 #       <midknight2k3> no idea exactly
05.18.31 #       <thu> 1h? 10h? 10 days?
05.18.42 #       <midknight2k3> i'd say closeest to 10h
05.18.46 #       <midknight2k3> like 14h maybe?
05.18.55 #       <thu> hile a standard tape can only hold 2-4 hours of video, your AV320 has a 40 hours capacity*. 
05.18.58 #       <thu> :PPPPP
05.19.01 #       * thu droolz
05.19.21 #       <midknight2k3> MM
05.19.28 #       <midknight2k3> I WANT
05.19.33 #       <thu> and that's on a 20G drive
05.19.41 #       <midknight2k3> REPLACE IT@
05.19.42 #       <midknight2k3> HAHAHA
05.19.48 #       <thu> if you shell out another $2-300 you get an 80G model
05.20.01 #       <midknight2k3> ???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
05.20.13 #       <thu> ? what
05.20.18 #       <midknight2k3> wow
05.20.46 #       <thu> you can have quite a nice thing for about $1k
05.20.57 #       <earHurts>  i've got a 60GB recorder fm
05.20.58 #       <midknight2k3> yes
05.21.06 #       <midknight2k3> HEY EarnHURTS
05.21.08 #       <thu> that's too much though imho
05.21.17 #       <earHurts> hey midk
05.21.27 #       <thu> heh and that's US money too
05.21.35 #       <thu> hey earHurts
05.21.43 #       <earHurts> hey thu
05.22.23 #       <earHurts> i've only filled 22GB of 55
05.22.28 #       <midknight2k3> hahahha
05.22.33 #       <midknight2k3> i don't even use 20g
05.23.00 #       <thu> I'm okay with 20G on the move
05.23.01 #       <earHurts> emusic.com filled it for me
05.23.20 #       <thu> earHurts: if their client worked on linux I'd pay them too
05.23.24 #       <midknight2k3> heh
05.23.34 #       <earHurts> and I have 2GB of wagner
05.23.39 #       <thu> lol 
05.23.50 #       <thu> Wagner - Greatest Hits 2000
05.23.58 #       <midknight2k3> hey earhurts: are the files they ive 320k?
05.24.00 #       <midknight2k3> kbps
05.24.03 #       <earHurts> thu that is a illy oversight of theirs
05.24.04 #       <thu> Wagner - Summer Mix
05.24.31 #       <earHurts> nope, vbr @ ~ 160
05.24.42 #       <midknight2k3> BOOOOO
05.24.57 #       <midknight2k3> thye can give 320k and let you downsize it
05.25.09 #       <earHurts> i think it's the r3mix setting, which is good quality
05.25.21 #       <thu> my ears can't tell 320k apart from 192k
05.25.27 #       <thu> especially on crappy music
05.25.36 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.25.41 #       <midknight2k3> strange me too
05.25.44 #       <midknight2k3> most of the time
05.25.55 #       <earHurts> yeah, the setting is sufficient & more
05.26.31 #       <thu> hehe especially since I have the headphones that come with the archos fm
05.26.49 #       <thu> I've been trying to break them for 6 months
05.26.57 #       <thu> so I can get a pair of good ones
05.27.04 #       <earHurts> i broke mine easily
05.27.06 #       <midknight2k3> BOO
05.27.09 #       <midknight2k3> hahah
05.27.14 #       <midknight2k3> a tip, thu
05.27.27 #       <midknight2k3> accidentally drop a hammer on one of the earpieces
05.27.30 #       <earHurts> catch the cable on a doorknob. keep walking
05.27.36 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha
05.27.40 #       <thu> lol
05.27.42 #       <midknight2k3> you could break the archos
05.27.49 #       <thu> mine are in a pretty bad shape
05.28.06 #       <thu> the wire that goes to the right ear hangs out outside
05.28.16 #       <earHurts> the sonys are nearly as comfy as the archos phones
05.28.27 #       <thu> I want get some big sonys
05.28.43 #       <thu> they have some cool 'open air system' ones
05.29.23 #       <earHurts> open air?
05.29.47 #       <midknight2k3> it's NEAT earhurts
05.30.21 #       <thu> [Linux] thu@dusty tmp $ emusicdlm-bin 
05.30.21 #       <thu> Segmentation fault
05.30.25 #       <earHurts> what /is/ it?
05.30.55 #       <earHurts> emailed emusic?
05.31.03 #       <midknight2k3> no
05.31.07 #       <thu> http://www.bigbangelectronics.com/product.asp?dept_id=1&pf_id=mdrf1
05.31.13 #       <midknight2k3> you like pay for the tracks you want or something
05.31.16 #       <midknight2k3> like itunes music store
05.31.27 #       <thu> something like this.. your ear isn't totally covered by the headphones
05.31.49 #       <thu> [Linux] thu@dusty tmp $ emusicdlm-bin 
05.31.49 #       <thu> Segmentation fault
05.31.52 #       <midknight2k3> hmm
05.31.58 #       <thu> darn.. their new ver still doesn't work
05.32.31 #       <earHurts> email em the core !
05.32.37 #       <thu> the download manager works
05.32.42 #       <thu> are there 2 separate progs?
05.33.36 #       <earHurts> what dorsn't work then?
05.34.11 #       <thu> emusicdlm-bin
05.34.14 #       <thu> emusicdlm works
05.34.25 #       <midknight2k3> GRRR
05.34.28 #       <midknight2k3> eMUSIC!
05.34.50 #       <thu> earHurts: http://www.sgnx.net/~thu/ss/emusic.jpg
05.34.57 #       <thu> earHurts: is this what should be working?
05.35.06 #       <earHurts> I dunno.
05.35.25 #       <thu> what do you mean you dunno?
05.35.26 #       <earHurts> go try to download an album from your browser
05.35.34 #       <thu> I don't have an account with them yet
05.35.42 #       <thu> they won't accept my cc
05.36.38 #       <earHurts> that's a problem
05.41.56 #       <midknight2k3> ..And, silence.
05.44.54 #       <earHurts> sorry, I was struggling with cvs
05.45.12 #       <midknight2k3> is CVS busted?
05.45.42 #       <earHurts> I'm having problems using it from the commandline
05.47.00 #       <earHurts> commandline wants a CVSROOT
05.47.12 #       <midknight2k3> plugin loader cool
05.47.17 #       <earHurts> I've been using wincvs to take care of it
05.47.19 #       <midknight2k3> i didnt see it till just now
05.47.30 #       <earHurts> won't link for me
05.47.59 #       <midknight2k3> you know muhc about plugin loader, earhurts?
05.48.47 #       <earHurts> nope
05.49.19 #       <thu> hey earHurts
05.49.25 #       <earHurts> a plugin is passed a struct of function pointers to rockbox functions, and a void* for data
05.49.29 #       <thu> wanna see something?
05.49.34 #       <earHurts> sure
05.49.36 #       <thu> http://www.sgnx.net/~thu/ss/emusic_error.jpg
05.50.05 #       <midknight2k3> it's BUSTED!
05.50.29 #       <thu> well then .. they won't be getting my money today either
05.51.06 #       <earHurts> do's your web server
05.51.07 ***     Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
05.51.19 #       <thu> and btw.. it does the same for all CCs
05.51.25 #       <thu> earHurts: ?
05.51.50 #       <earHurts> I can't get to
05.51.56 #       <thu> what's the err?
05.52.00 #       <earHurts> oh, nevermind
05.52.09 #       <thu> ??
05.52.23 #       <earHurts> my firewall doesn't like non-standard http ports
05.52.34 #       <thu> my isp doesn't like standard http ports
05.53.05 #       <thu> try http://astronomix.sgnx.net:11280/~thu/ss/emusic_error.jpg
05.53.17 #       <thu> the www. is a bloody framing redirect
05.53.37 #       <earHurts> no, I saw it. I overrode the firewall
05.53.55 #       <thu> u liked it?
05.54.10 #       <earHurts> I think your card must be overdrawn; it's all blurry
05.54.23 #       <thu> :P
05.54.25 #       <earHurts> like it melted
05.55.25 #       <earHurts> here, tell me the  number and I'll try it for you
05.55.33 #       <midknight2k3> hehehh
05.56.08 #       <thu> nah.. it won't work
05.56.19 #       <thu> but it did work for you before
05.56.24 #       <thu> tell me the number that you used
05.56.27 #       <earHurts> oh, if you're worried about logbot recording it just use rot-13
05.56.39 #       <earHurts> ;)
05.57.08 #       <earHurts> I only give my cc number to pretty girls
05.57.43 #       <thu> I can get a couple for you
05.57.48 #       <thu> sent to your home address
05.57.51 #       <thu> just gimme that number
05.58.33 #       <earHurts> i've got one. she's expensive enough.
05.58.52 #       <earHurts> try sending flowers if you want a shock
05.59.04 #       <thu> why is that?
05.59.05 Quit    Stevie-O (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
05.59.15 #       <thu> I did it a few months ago :P
05.59.20 #       <earHurts> $90 last time
05.59.23 #       <thu> overseas too
05.59.58 #       <thu> I came up cheaper 'cuz I paid a friend to go to a local shop and get a bunch of roses
06.00.00 #       <earHurts> overseas? oh you poor bastard. gotta stay out of those chatrooms, man
06.00.07 #       <thu> true..
06.00.22 #       <earHurts> sure, they claim they're hot 
06.00.34 #       <earHurts> sure, they claim they're women
06.00.37 #       <thu> loool
06.00.53 #       <thu> hmm.. you're making me wonder
06.01.01 #       <earHurts> probably that german cannibal
06.01.52 #       <thu> I really don't see the point of ordering flowers online
06.01.54 #       <midknight2k3> I thought this was Rockbox chat?
06.01.55 #       <thu> unless you're away somewhere
06.02.03 #       <earHurts> you hear about that guy?
06.02.05 #       <thu> midknight2k3: we all carry rockbox in our souls
06.02.06 #       <thu> and pockets
06.02.13 #       <midknight2k3> heh, ok whatever
06.02.14 #       <thu> earHurts: naw
06.02.35 #       <earHurts> met a guy on chat, offered to cook and eat him.
06.02.46 #       <earHurts> guy accepted, so he did
06.03.06 #       <earHurts> still had steaks in the fridge when they arrested him
06.03.17 #       <thu> rotfl
06.03.22 Join    ch0ppedl1ver [0] (~whatsit2u@user-2iniman.dialup.mindspring.com)
06.03.50 #       <thu> hey midknight2k3.. want me to cook ya?
06.03.51 #       <earHurts> chopped liver, we were just talking about you
06.03.59 #       <thu> mm even better
06.04.02 #       <midknight2k3> NO THANKS!
06.04.08 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha earhurts
06.04.13 #       <thu> midknight2k3: I promise I'll share with earHurts
06.04.18 #       <midknight2k3> Hmm
06.04.22 #       <midknight2k3> Actually...
06.04.27 #       <earHurts> no cooking, no eating, no thanks
06.04.28 #       <midknight2k3> You PROMISE to share?
06.04.41 #       <thu> yeah.. I'll send him a steak
06.04.43 #       <midknight2k3> Deal's off if earhurts disagrees
06.04.45 #       <thu> or call him for dinner
06.04.53 #       <midknight2k3> Ahh, no i don't think so
06.05.06 #       <earHurts> actually, the victim did eat some of himself too
06.05.17 #       <midknight2k3> EEEW
06.05.20 #       <midknight2k3> shut UP!!!
06.05.20 #       <thu> oh he did?
06.05.30 #       <earHurts> definitely ewww
06.05.30 #       <thu> raw or cooked?
06.05.37 #       <earHurts> fried
06.05.40 #       <midknight2k3> oh GOD.
06.05.53 #       <earHurts> yeah.
06.06.03 #       <thu> midknight2k3: see? I'll even let you have some
06.06.23 #       <midknight2k3> Aw,, DUP SHPT - SHUTUP!
06.06.53 #       <thu> midknight2k3: lol.. okay then.. tell me about syncing rockbox with the PC then
06.06.55 #       <earHurts> okay, stop, we're gonna sicken midk
06.07.05 #       <midknight2k3> yes
06.07.06 #       <thu> earHurts: yeah.. he's no good sickened
06.07.10 #       <midknight2k3> listen to earhurts
06.07.11 #       <thu> earHurts: he'll get all sour 
06.07.17 #       <earHurts> stop!
06.07.20 #       <midknight2k3> What do you mean, i'm NO GOOD SICKENED?
06.07.21 #       <earHurts> lol
06.07.30 #       <midknight2k3> I'm fine!
06.07.36 #       <midknight2k3> how could you say that?
06.07.41 #       <midknight2k3> sour?
06.07.47 #       <earHurts> lol
06.08.14 #       <midknight2k3> If it shuts you up, yeah im sour.
06.08.37 #       <thu> bleh.. you're no good then
06.08.50 #       <midknight2k3> Ask CHOPPEDLIVER
06.08.56 #       <midknight2k3> he might take to it
06.09.06 #       <earHurts>  12-metre mass of decomposing lumpy grey flesh apparently was an invertebrate.
06.09.23 #       <thu> I don't like liver
06.09.27 #       <thu> I'd rather have some ribs
06.09.41 #       <midknight2k3> Ask...
06.09.42 #       <midknight2k3> uh...
06.09.44 #       <midknight2k3> earHurts
06.09.50 #       <earHurts> lump grey flesh is yummy
06.09.57 #       <earHurts> yes?
06.10.04 #       <thu> aren't they cloning meat already?
06.10.12 #       <earHurts> nope
06.10.19 #       <thu> like pure meat.. you don't need all that extra stuff anyway
06.10.42 #       <earHurts> but you can keep cell masses alive in a lab
06.10.55 #       <thu> that's a beginning
06.11.08 #       <midknight2k3> THIS IS ROCKBOX CHAT.. not meat-cloning talk
06.11.14 #       <earHurts> need a nutrient bath
06.11.18 #       <thu> better than freezing midknight2k3's chops
06.11.24 #       <thu> it probably holds longer too
06.11.24 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
06.11.35 #       <earHurts> but you can control the nutrient drip....
06.11.41 #       <midknight2k3> let me calm down a bit and i won't be sour
06.11.45 #       <earHurts> with a rockbox plugin
06.11.46 #       <thu> mmm
06.11.59 #       <thu> what's all this talk about rockbox plugins?
06.12.12 #       <thu> I don't remember seing any plugins
06.12.17 #       <thu> it it a new feature?
06.12.22 #       <earHurts> yeah
06.12.29 #       <midknight2k3> YEAY!
06.12.32 #       <midknight2k3> but wait
06.12.40 #       <earHurts> it allows code to be dynamically loaded
06.12.46 #       <midknight2k3> it says put your .rocks in .rockbox/rocks right?
06.12.47 #       <thu> nice
06.12.51 #       <thu> any interesting plugins out yet?
06.12.59 #       <midknight2k3> WHERE DO YOU GET THE .ROCKs?
06.13.25 #       * thu throws a big rock at midknight2k3
06.13.31 #       <earHurts> go to the daily builds page, get the zip
06.13.47 #       <midknight2k3> hahahah
06.13.53 #       <midknight2k3> LET ME SEE then
06.14.05 #       <midknight2k3> I see.
06.14.07 #       <midknight2k3> I'm dumb.
06.14.08 #       <midknight2k3> I see.
06.14.51 #       * midknight2k3 returns THU's favor.
06.15.00 #       <midknight2k3> There's lots of good ROCKS
06.15.02 #       <midknight2k3> wormlet
06.15.05 #       <midknight2k3> helloworld
06.15.09 #       <midknight2k3> othelo
06.15.13 Nick    ch0ppedl1ver is now known as Stevie-O (~whatsit2u@user-2iniman.dialup.mindspring.com)
06.15.15 #       <midknight2k3> viewer
06.15.33 #       <thu> isn't there a doom rock?
06.15.37 #       <midknight2k3> NO
06.15.47 #       * midknight2k3 throws a big rock at thu
06.15.52 #       <midknight2k3> DOOM doesnt exist
06.16.06 #       <midknight2k3> are you dumb or something?
06.16.24 #       <earHurts> viewer fails to link for me
06.16.28 #       <thu> midknight2k3: sure it exists.. I saw the screenshot
06.16.34 #       <midknight2k3> SHUT UP!
06.16.35 Join    hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237)
06.16.37 #       <midknight2k3> uy!
06.16.52 #       <midknight2k3> earhurts: what/
06.16.53 #       <midknight2k3> ?
06.16.55 #       <thu> I'll go grab my archos to test the rocks
06.17.10 #       <midknight2k3> tell me how they are!
06.17.18 #       <midknight2k3> i don't have mine, GR
06.17.46 #       <midknight2k3> cool, i was sitting here when the new dailybuild came out
06.18.27 #       <earHurts> new daily is out now??
06.18.35 #       <midknight2k3> yes
06.18.37 #       <midknight2k3> brand new
06.18.41 #       <midknight2k3> 15 minutes old
06.18.52 #       <midknight2k3> new playlist crap
06.18.54 #       <midknight2k3> cool
06.19.11 #       <midknight2k3> :|)
06.19.18 #       <earHurts> good, becuase the last one was imcomplete
06.19.19 #       <midknight2k3> :D
06.19.25 #       <midknight2k3> yes.
06.21.35 #       <thu> okay now.. where do I put the rocks?
06.21.50 #       <hardeep> in the glass, with the scotch
06.21.53 #       <midknight2k3> in "   .rockbox\rocks
06.22.14 #       <thu> okay
06.22.21 #       <thu> I'm out of scotch unfortunatelly
06.22.28 Join    ch0ppedl1ver [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inilir.dialup.mindspring.com)
06.22.44 #       <hardeep> well, what are you doing on here then???  time to go to the store
06.22.45 #       <earHurts> mmm  scotch
06.22.50 #       <thu> midknight2k3: and it's .rockbox/rocks
06.22.58 #       <thu> it's closed :(
06.23.51 Quit    Stevie-O (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: ch0ppedl1ver!whatsit2u@user-2inilir.dialup.mindspring.com)))
06.23.53 #       <earHurts> okay, making the daily
06.24.00 Nick    ch0ppedl1ver is now known as Stevie-O (whatsit2u@user-2inilir.dialup.mindspring.com)
06.24.26 #       <earHurts> where's allofherclothesoff?
06.24.28 #       <midknight2k3> i bet
06.25.31 #       <earHurts> now it's time to whore a little slashdot karma
06.25.41 #       <earHurts> not that I need more karma
06.26.05 #       <thu> how do I get to the rocks?
06.26.09 #       <thu> I see a bunch of extra games
06.26.19 #       <thu> but no hello world for example
06.26.35 #       <thu> do all rocks go under Games?
06.26.57 #       <midknight2k3> ?
06.27.03 #       <midknight2k3> at the bottom of daily builds
06.27.25 #       <midknight2k3> for your model click the "(rocks)" link
06.27.27 #       <thu> nah I mean how do you access them
06.27.34 #       <midknight2k3> you need new dailybuild
06.27.37 #       <midknight2k3> newwest
06.27.41 #       <thu> doh I just got it
06.28.36 #       <midknight2k3> how are they?
06.28.38 #       <midknight2k3> TELL ME!
06.28.45 #       <thu> dunno how do I get to them?
06.28.51 #       <thu> I just see a bunch of extra games
06.28.52 #       <midknight2k3> play them
06.28.57 #       <midknight2k3> odd
06.29.00 #       <midknight2k3> new dailybuild?
06.29.02 #       <thu> yeah
06.29.08 #       <thu> is there supposed to be a 'rocks' menu?
06.29.14 #       <midknight2k3> newEST dailybuild?
06.29.15 #       <thu> or do they just show up under games and demos?
06.29.15 #       <midknight2k3> no lol
06.29.17 #       <thu> YES
06.29.22 #       <hardeep> thu: there will be, but it's not there yet
06.29.27 #       <thu> okay
06.29.29 #       <hardeep> thu: re rocks menu
06.29.38 #       <midknight2k3> hardeep
06.29.40 #       <hardeep> thu: for now, just browse to the file and hit play
06.29.45 #       <midknight2k3> can you "play" them?
06.29.47 #       <midknight2k3> ah see
06.29.49 #       <thu> hardeep: how can I browse to .rockbox?
06.29.50 #       <midknight2k3> TOLD YA thu
06.29.54 #       <midknight2k3> uh
06.29.56 #       <hardeep> thu: show all files
06.30.00 #       <thu> oh right
06.30.02 #       <thu> k
06.30.10 #       <midknight2k3> hit F2, and make :show files = all
06.30.12 #       <thu> I still need my charger though
06.30.12 #       <hardeep> the only .rock that can't be "played" directly is the viewer
06.30.16 #       <thu> my battery is dying
06.30.26 #       <midknight2k3> what is the viewer/what does it do?
06.30.31 #       <hardeep> it's the text viewer
06.30.34 #       <midknight2k3> oh
06.30.39 #       <midknight2k3> a better one hopefully?
06.30.40 #       <hardeep> play a .txt file and it's loaded
06.30.51 #       <hardeep> no, the same one for now... the new one should be in soon
06.30.53 #       <midknight2k3> or the same old
06.30.56 #       <midknight2k3> ok good
06.31.30 #       <thu> I've been thinking about it and the syncer would be mostly on the PC
06.31.41 #       <midknight2k3> yes...
06.31.51 #       <thu> the only thing it should do on the archos is read the music list and write some things to a file
06.31.56 #       <thu> that the actual syncer can read
06.31.56 #       <midknight2k3> any more BREAKTHROUGH thoughts, thu?
06.32.03 #       <midknight2k3> :)
06.32.13 #       <thu> doh just thinking out loud
06.32.27 #       <midknight2k3> well ya thought of it before me
06.32.31 #       <midknight2k3> it doesn't matter to me lol
06.33.32 #       <thu> and what about stats?
06.33.54 #       <midknight2k3> what?
06.34.09 #       <thu> songs played the most
06.34.12 #       <thu> songs never played
06.34.14 #       <thu> stuff like that
06.34.17 #       <midknight2k3> dunno
06.34.22 #       <thu> total playtime
06.35.03 #       * thu is full of ideas today
06.35.13 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
06.35.16 #       <midknight2k3> you want that thu?
06.35.18 #       <midknight2k3> get a rioRIOT
06.35.30 #       <thu> grrr I don't want to 'get' anything
06.35.37 #       <midknight2k3> yeeee
06.35.39 #       <thu> other than a rockbox daily build
06.35.44 #       <midknight2k3> yes
06.35.49 #       <earHurts> http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=69610&cid=6346580
06.36.13 #       <midknight2k3> i see
06.37.35 #       <thu> yay I found my charger
06.38.14 #       <thu> now's the time when you cheer
06.39.18 #       <earHurts> ok!
06.39.27 #       <earHurts> it built!
06.39.41 #       <earHurts> and thu found his charger!
06.39.47 #       <midknight2k3> YAY ALL
06.40.05 #       <thu> hmm the loudness doesn't seem to kill the sound anymore
06.40.18 #       <earHurts> huh?
06.40.48 #       <midknight2k3> he had a loudness problem
06.40.51 #       <earHurts> rocks work!
06.40.59 #       <thu> so it seems
06.41.08 #       <midknight2k3> like when loudness was 10db and the volume was >90dB it died
06.41.25 #       <thu> 90dB?
06.41.34 #       <midknight2k3> oooh
06.41.37 #       <midknight2k3> i mean 90
06.41.39 #       <midknight2k3> lol
06.41.40 #       <thu> :P
06.42.46 #       <thu> I like the oscillograph
06.42.55 #       <thu> it should be part of the default wps
06.42.56 #       <midknight2k3> you never tried it before?
06.43.02 #       <midknight2k3> or is it different
06.43.03 #       <thu> sure I did but I still like it
06.43.07 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
06.43.07 #       <thu> nah same thing
06.43.10 #       <thu> afaict
06.43.14 #       <midknight2k3> on the WPS would be cool
06.46.27 #       <thu> who's Cyborg Systems?
06.46.37 #       <midknight2k3> no idea
06.46.49 #       <midknight2k3> http://www.cyborg.com/
06.47.04 #       <midknight2k3> whY?
06.47.08 #       <midknight2k3> where do you see that?
06.47.18 #       <thu> they seem to have written othello
06.47.29 #       <midknight2k3> what's othello?
06.47.32 #       <midknight2k3> a game?
06.47.44 #       <thu> yeh
06.48.06 #       <earHurts> yep just won it 43 to 21
06.48.33 #       <thu> sokoban doesn't find its levels
06.48.43 #       <midknight2k3> i know
06.48.52 #       <midknight2k3> they have to go in .rockbox\sokoban
06.49.04 #       <midknight2k3> IT has to go in there
06.49.12 #       <earHurts> did yiu copy levels.txt to the srchos?
06.49.13 #       <midknight2k3> http://rockbox.haxx.se/levels.txt
06.49.26 #       <midknight2k3> put it in .rockbox\sokoban
06.49.42 #       <thu> how do you play othello?
06.50.24 #       <midknight2k3> no idea
06.50.28 #       <midknight2k3> here's an idea
06.50.34 #       <midknight2k3> http://www.mattelothello.com
06.50.48 #       <earHurts> it's like a simple version of go
06.50.59 #       <midknight2k3> "go"?
06.51.04 #       <earHurts> and othello is trademarked in this context
06.51.13 #       <earHurts> we need to change the name
06.51.23 #       <thu> either i'm crazy or the radio works better under rockbox
06.51.35 #       <midknight2k3> it does
06.51.45 #       <thu> testing firmware..
06.51.53 #       <earHurts> it worked louder until I asked linux why );
06.52.29 #       <earHurts> hmm
06.52.31 #       <thu> hmm guess not
06.52.40 #       <thu> it sounds okay on the firmware too
06.52.41 #       <earHurts> less buffer space ion this version
06.52.48 #       <midknight2k3> yes
06.52.57 #       <midknight2k3> because the plugin loader uses it
06.52.58 #       <earHurts> but it seems faster
06.53.17 #       <midknight2k3> what seems faster/
06.53.30 #       <earHurts> dir browsing
06.53.54 #       <earHurts> otoh I have a patch that may slow dir browsing slightly
06.54.09 #       <earHurts> which patch isn't in the build I just did
06.54.36 #       <midknight2k3> wait what?
06.54.38 #       <midknight2k3> otoh?
06.54.45 #       <midknight2k3> and what patch?
06.54.51 #       <thu> [Linux] thu@dusty rockbox $ wtf is otoh
06.54.51 #       <thu> OTOH: on the other hand
06.55.10 #       <midknight2k3> oh
06.55.13 #       <midknight2k3> you know whagt
06.55.19 #       <earHurts> private patch, haven't ever released it
06.55.29 #       <midknight2k3> if you look at it it sounds like "although" and that means the same thing as "on the other hand" too!
06.55.43 #       <midknight2k3> what does it do, EARHURTS?
06.55.52 #       <earHurts> well, you can d/l a binary with the patch
06.56.12 #       <earHurts> it removes a prefix from displayed filenames
06.56.29 #       <midknight2k3> rite...
06.56.49 #       <thu> hmm a sync could also download the latest build
06.57.13 #       <earHurts> 01- Track Name.mp3 -> Track Name.mpe
06.57.36 #       <earHurts> so you can sort by track number but not waste display space on it
06.58.01 #       * earHurts has long long filenames
06.58.09 #       <midknight2k3> i see
06.58.18 #       <earHurts> up to 119 chars
06.58.23 #       <midknight2k3> it saves 4 charaters worth
06.58.33 #       <midknight2k3> good job
06.58.56 #       <earHurts> well, you can set it to chop at or after a charcter of several types
06.59.24 #       <midknight2k3> cool
06.59.30 #       <midknight2k3> release to public
07.00.04 #       <earHurts> but I need to finalize my other unreleased patch
07.00.13 #       <midknight2k3> what does ITdo
07.00.49 #       <earHurts> saves 3KB and nakes adding settings less of a pain in the ass
07.00.59 #       <midknight2k3> adding settings?
07.01.39 #       <earHurts> in the code, you have to add code in 4 different places to add a savable setting
07.01.46 #       <midknight2k3> oh
07.01.56 #       <earHurts> it's a pain
07.02.44 #       <midknight2k3> i bet
07.06.11 #       <earHurts> my gf's dissing me for independence day, and i'm afraids of terrorists, so I'll do the patches then
07.06.29 #       <midknight2k3> whatever lol
07.07.24 #       <earHurts> hey, my slashdot comments at 3 points already!
07.08.00 #       <midknight2k3> I will see
07.09.02 #       <midknight2k3> how neat
07.09.52 #       <earHurts> sco bashing is a real crowd pleaser
07.10.03 #       <midknight2k3> yeah lol
07.13.42 #       <earHurts> 4 pints now
07.14.00 #       <midknight2k3> sorry hang on
07.17.25 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
07.17.27 #       <midknight2k3> 4 points
07.17.34 #       <earHurts> ;)
07.17.43 #       <thu> yay I subscribed to emusic
07.17.52 #       <thu> the bastards have a site that only works with internet explorer
07.18.02 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha
07.18.03 #       <midknight2k3> i see
07.18.18 #       <thu> if I get crap like that when trying to download I'll drop my subscription and send them a nice appreciative email
07.18.37 #       <midknight2k3> HAHAHAAH
07.18.46 #       <earHurts> 8 fives in my last 24
07.18.48 #       <midknight2k3> i wanna see this
07.19.26 #       <earHurts> oh yeah, doesn't work with mozilla. shoulda mentioned taht
07.19.40 #       <thu> what does it work with then?
07.19.41 #       <thu> wtf
07.19.46 #       <earHurts> ie
07.19.54 #       <thu> fsck ie
07.20.01 #       <midknight2k3> YES
07.20.02 #       <thu> lol.. linux client and it only works with ie?! :)))
07.20.04 #       <midknight2k3> FSCK IE
07.20.16 #       <earHurts> yeah, i only use ie for emusic
07.21.00 #       <earHurts> what emusic albums did you see of interest?
07.21.08 #       <thu> I didn't see anything yet
07.21.26 #       <thu> actually.. some new age
07.21.37 #       <earHurts> you like that?
07.21.47 #       <thu> yeah
07.21.52 #       <thu> well.. some of it
07.21.57 #       <earHurts> look for bamboo rainsticks
07.22.02 #       <midknight2k3> YEAH!
07.22.04 #       <midknight2k3> ROCK ON!
07.22.06 #       <midknight2k3> WOO OOOH!
07.22.09 #       <midknight2k3> YEAHHHH!!!
07.22.14 #       <midknight2k3> GO EARHURNTS!!
07.22.32 #       <earHurts> huh?
07.22.37 #       <thu> umm the emusic signup page doesn't work at all now
07.22.40 #       <midknight2k3> lo.
07.22.47 #       <earHurts> email em
07.23.22 #       <midknight2k3> it's busted?
07.23.29 #       <midknight2k3> THU YOU FSCKING BUSTED IT!
07.23.39 #       <thu> I fskin busted my whole machine
07.23.43 #       <earHurts> lol
07.23.43 #       <thu> I can't seem to get at anything over the net
07.23.52 #       <midknight2k3> oh no
07.23.54 #       <midknight2k3> fsck!
07.24.06 #       <earHurts> you killed the interweb!
07.24.20 #       <thu> wtf irc is the only thing that still works for me
07.24.31 #       <midknight2k3> fscking IRC!
07.24.31 #       * earHurts has disconnected (interweb killed!)
07.24.36 #       <midknight2k3> LOL
07.24.40 #       <midknight2k3> he's still here
07.24.45 #       <midknight2k3> umm earhurts
07.24.48 #       <thu> the bastards have killed the dns again
07.24.56 #       <earHurts> yup?
07.24.57 #       <midknight2k3> you need quotation marks around the comment
07.25.07 #       <earHurts> oh, righr
07.25.15 #       <earHurts> i don't irc much
07.25.30 #       <thu> no you don't 
07.25.30 #       * midknight2k3 has disconnected ("interweb killed!")
07.25.35 #       <thu> only if it's a comment
07.25.37 #       <earHurts> I was briefly an op in #c++ though
07.25.39 #       <thu> if it's a server message it has no comments
07.25.48 #       <midknight2k3> HAHA
07.25.52 #       <midknight2k3> it needs to be QUIT
07.26.05 #       * midknight2k3 has quit IRC (Quit:"INTERWEB KILLED!")
07.26.15 #       <earHurts> ah
07.26.16 #       * thu has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
07.26.42 #       <midknight2k3> umm
07.26.43 #       <midknight2k3> thu?
07.27.01 #       <midknight2k3> it's "xxxxx has quit IRC" not "xxxx has quit"
07.27.19 #       <thu> for me it's xxx has quit
07.27.24 #       <thu> it depends on the client
07.27.27 #       <midknight2k3> xxx?
07.27.33 #       <earHurts> probably
07.27.34 #       <midknight2k3> that's discrimination!
07.27.45 #       <midknight2k3> Thu - xxxx
07.27.47 #       <midknight2k3> i mean
07.27.50 #       <midknight2k3> thu - xxxx
07.27.51 #       <midknight2k3> GGG
07.27.54 #       <midknight2k3> i mean
07.27.56 #       <midknight2k3> thu - xxx
07.27.59 #       <midknight2k3> lol
07.28.04 #       <midknight2k3> like xxx means you
07.28.34 #       <thu> <midknight2k3> it's "xxxxx has quit IRC" not "xxxx has quit"
07.28.41 #       <thu> 5 x's , 4 x's
07.28.47 #       <thu> I just logically continued with 3 x's
07.29.01 #       <midknight2k3> oops
07.29.06 #       <midknight2k3> OH
07.29.06 #       <midknight2k3> lol
07.29.12 #       <midknight2k3> i thought you mean your sekf
07.29.15 #       <midknight2k3> fsck me
07.29.23 #       <thu> hehe betcha you didn't see this coming
07.29.34 #       <earHurts> lol
07.29.36 #       <midknight2k3> i did too!! grr!
07.30.04 #       <earHurts> you two should be a vaudeville act
07.30.06 #       <midknight2k3> I knew it!
07.30.17 #       <midknight2k3> god... dsmn it!
07.30.40 #       <midknight2k3> stupid fscking dsmn ssithead
07.30.45 #       <midknight2k3> why didnt i see this coming
07.30.58 #       <midknight2k3> VAUDEVILLE my... wait
07.31.04 #       <midknight2k3> the "s" thing doesnt work on "ass"
07.31.44 #       <midknight2k3> im such a fscking idiot!
07.31.58 #       <midknight2k3> xxx means thu not logicvally continued
07.32.06 #       <midknight2k3> logicvally?
07.32.08 #       <midknight2k3> fsck!
07.33.20 #       <thu> darn I had this song I really liked
07.33.24 #       <thu> now I can't find it on emusic
07.33.28 #       <midknight2k3> and you fsckin lost it!
07.33.31 #       <midknight2k3> fsck you!
07.33.51 #       <thu> midknight2k3: go find it!
07.34.27 #       <midknight2k3> i cant fsckin find the fsckin song
07.34.57 #       <thu> darn so much music
07.35.29 #       <midknight2k3> too much?
07.35.31 #       <midknight2k3> fsck!
07.39.38 #       <thu> yay my mouse battery is dead
07.39.46 #       <midknight2k3> yay!
07.42.25 #       <thu> you weren't supposed to cheer for that
07.42.31 #       <midknight2k3> oh
07.42.33 #       <midknight2k3> boo!
07.43.36 #       <thu> mm fresh meat
07.43.39 #       <thu> I mean battery
07.46.42 #       <thu> midknight2k3: yaaaay I found the song
07.46.53 #       <midknight2k3> yes!
07.47.32 #       <thu> Ancient Future - Ne Po Pogrebu Bochonochek
07.47.36 #       <thu> :)
07.47.40 #       <midknight2k3> umm
07.47.42 #       <midknight2k3> never heard of it?
07.48.22 #       <thu> me neither but it sounds good
07.48.32 #       <thu> http://tip.emusic.com/request/AQEAg4aURIOrsz6FEYRRggKMN0Mc1KAAgIDBGmx4Fv4gMKHNpRCgYdwXfA--/Ne_Po_Pogrebu_Bochonochek.m3u
07.48.34 #       <thu> here
07.48.46 #       <thu> earHurts: 
07.48.47 #       <thu> earHurts: 
07.48.47 DBUG    Enqueued KICK thu
07.48.47 #       <thu> earHurts: 
07.49.34 #       <midknight2k3> you can let me hear something through your subscription?
07.50.01 #       <earHurts> nope
07.50.04 #       <midknight2k3> CRAP
07.50.10 #       <earHurts> violates the contract
07.50.24 #       <thu> midknight2k3: nah that's the hi quality sample
07.50.30 #       <thu> earHurts: I get Unable to connect
07.50.31 #       <midknight2k3> i hear nothing
07.50.38 #       <earHurts> I won't even do it for close friends I've known for years
07.51.00 #       <midknight2k3> that's noble, earHurts
07.51.11 ***     Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
07.51.13 #       <thu> midknight2k3: go to emusic.com and search for ancient future
07.51.23 #       <midknight2k3> i will
07.51.29 #       <earHurts> I don't like anything that smacks of stealing
07.51.33 #       <thu> midknight2k3: you can browse their stuff and listen to hi quality samples
07.51.45 #       <thu> earHurts: then tell me what this is
07.51.47 #       <midknight2k3> yerah
07.51.52 #       <thu> Download failed (Unable to connect)
07.52.10 #       <earHurts> your firewall
07.52.39 #       <earHurts> download manager wants to connect out, to a port 80
07.52.58 #       <thu> I don't really have a firewall
07.53.05 #       <thu> and nothing limits outgoing connections
07.53.10 #       <earHurts> you're a smart guy, and only allow your web proxy to do that
07.53.29 #       <thu> I'm a smart guy but have no web proxy
07.53.48 #       <earHurts> well, it's firewall or dns
07.54.15 #       <earHurts> i added a firewall rule for download manager
07.54.46 #       <thu> does their client have a log of some kind?
07.54.55 #       <earHurts> don't know
07.55.03 #       <earHurts> doubt it
07.56.04 #       <midknight2k3> be back in a few mins ok
07.57.13 #       <earHurts> k
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08.02.36 #       <midknight2k3> ok back
08.04.38 #       <thu> wb
08.04.51 #       <midknight2k3> ty
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08.11.52 #       <thu> no way to make it work
08.11.58 #       <thu> I sent a help request
08.12.05 #       <midknight2k3> oh well
08.12.32 #       <thu> crappy windows users site
08.12.38 #       <midknight2k3> lol
08.12.40 #       <midknight2k3> get a mac
08.12.46 #       <midknight2k3> then use itunes music store
08.13.21 #       <thu> yeah.. a mac and a million bux
08.13.25 #       <thu> $1/song?
08.13.37 #       <midknight2k3> wait
08.13.41 #       <midknight2k3> how much $$ emusic?
08.13.46 #       <thu> you can pay emusic.com $10 / month for unlimited dl
08.14.00 #       <thu> and they seem to have some interesting music
08.14.02 #       <thu> not all that radio crap
08.14.09 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
08.19.06 #       <thu> I wonder how long it'll take them to get back to me
08.19.29 #       <midknight2k3> hopefully not long
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08.40.55 #       <midknight2k3> earhurts?
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08.46.14 #       <earHurts> hmm
08.46.23 #       <midknight2k3> aha youre still here
08.46.24 #       <midknight2k3> lol
08.46.27 #       <midknight2k3> and thu's back!
08.46.31 #       <midknight2k3> what time is it there?
08.46.33 #       <earHurts> going to bed soon
08.46.42 #       <earHurts> 2<47
08.46.46 #       <thu> I'm trying to figure out what this emusic client is trying to do 
08.46.58 #       <thu> but afaict it's not even accessing the network
08.47.00 #       <midknight2k3> came for earhurts' help?
08.47.02 #       <midknight2k3> lol
08.47.04 #       <earHurts> make an http connection
08.47.20 #       <thu> I get no packets going through when retrying the transfer
08.47.21 #       <thu> none
08.47.37 #       <earHurts> exit it
08.47.40 #       <thu> that's why I closed all net apps.. I didn't want any extra traffic
08.47.43 #       <dwihno> anyone here (except me) who's experiencing red led death?
08.47.52 #       <thu> it does do a dns lookup when I start it
08.47.54 #       <earHurts> dlmgr doesn't retry real well
08.48.31 #       <earHurts> and email emusic -- make it their problem solves it for you and othe linux users
08.48.56 #       <midknight2k3> lol
08.48.58 #       <midknight2k3> that didnt make sens
08.49.00 #       <midknight2k3> e
08.49.05 #       <midknight2k3> can you clarify?
08.49.49 #       <thu> I already did
08.49.51 #       <thu> now I'm waiting
08.49.57 #       <midknight2k3> still?
08.49.58 #       <midknight2k3> lol
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09.37.00 #       <midknight2k3> hello?
09.37.09 #       <thu> ?
09.37.18 #       <midknight2k3> haha you're still here?
09.37.25 #       <midknight2k3> waiting for a response proabaly
09.38.08 #       <thu> yeah
09.38.12 #       <thu> I'm remapping my keys around
09.38.15 #       <midknight2k3> jesus
09.38.20 #       <midknight2k3> what time is it there?
09.38.25 #       <thu> sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
09.38.25 #       <thu> sh: -c: line 1: `time'
09.38.30 #       <thu> oops :P
09.38.32 #       <thu> Wed Jul  2 00:35:20 PDT 2003
09.38.33 #       <midknight2k3> lol
09.38.47 #       <midknight2k3> oh
09.38.51 #       <midknight2k3> it's 12:35?
09.38.59 #       <midknight2k3> same here!
09.38.59 #       <thu> no.. it's 00:35
09.39.05 #       <midknight2k3> lol
09.39.14 #       <thu> 12:35 means noon :P
09.39.16 #       <midknight2k3> very informative
09.39.21 #       <midknight2k3> no.
09.39.28 #       <midknight2k3> well
09.39.31 #       <midknight2k3> ok lol
09.39.34 #       <midknight2k3> 12:35 AM
09.39.52 #       <thu> I hate 12h time
09.40.03 #       <midknight2k3> why?
09.40.44 #       <thu> you have to specify am/pm
09.40.57 #       <thu> I'd love a decimal time system
09.40.57 #       <midknight2k3> brr
09.41.02 #       <midknight2k3> cool
09.41.04 #       <thu> just like the swatch internet time
09.41.17 #       <thu> it's @360 right now
09.41.41 #       <midknight2k3> really?
09.41.41 #       <midknight2k3> WOW
09.41.44 #       <midknight2k3> terrible!
09.41.51 #       <midknight2k3> earHurts is deaD?
09.41.54 #       <midknight2k3> Dead?
09.41.56 #       <midknight2k3> DeaD?
09.42.40 Ctcp    Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
09.42.40 #       * thu pokes earHurts
09.42.53 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha
09.43.07 #       <midknight2k3> I guess you're good for a laugh
09.43.23 #       * thu nods.. 
09.43.26 #       <thu> he's dead alright
09.43.35 #       <midknight2k3> yes
09.43.38 #       <midknight2k3> wait
09.43.40 #       <midknight2k3> i got it!
09.43.48 #       <midknight2k3> logbot: seen earHurts?
09.43.53 #       <midknight2k3> mm
09.44.12 #       <midknight2k3> what?
09.44.17 #       <midknight2k3> CRAPPY LOGBOT
09.44.20 #       <thu> !seen earHurts
09.44.22 #       <thu> .seen earHurts
09.44.36 >>>     "seen" used by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) [snoop prevented]
09.44.41 #       <thu> nobody seen him
09.44.43 #       <midknight2k3> HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
09.44.45 #       <thu> he's not among us anymore
09.44.47 #       <midknight2k3> OH GOD
09.44.55 #       <midknight2k3> you see earhurts is here right?
09.45.16 #       <midknight2k3> I put in "/msg logbot seen earHurts?"
09.45.26 #       <midknight2k3> he says:
09.45.26 #       <midknight2k3> -logbot- You need glasses badly
09.45.31 #       <midknight2k3> try it!
09.45.34 #       <midknight2k3> it's fun
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09.45.52 #       <midknight2k3> -logbot- I have never seen 'earhurts?'
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09.46.25 #       <midknight2k3> there is no question mark at the end
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09.51.52 #       <thu> >logbot< seen thu
09.51.52 #       <thu> -logbot- Yeah, I see you. Boy, you're ugly ;)
09.52.09 #       <midknight2k3> hsahahhaha
09.52.12 #       <midknight2k3> wait
09.52.19 >>>     "seen" used by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) [snoop prevented]
09.52.25 #       <midknight2k3> hmm
09.52.27 #       <midknight2k3> i got it!
09.52.33 >>>     "seen" used by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) [snoop prevented]
09.52.42 #       <midknight2k3> -> *logbot* seen logbot
09.52.43 #       <midknight2k3> -logbot- Yes, I am here.
09.52.58 #       <midknight2k3> :D
10.13.46 #       <midknight2k3> anything else?
10.13.50 #       <midknight2k3> i'm tired
10.14.34 #       <midknight2k3> good night
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10.19.27 #       <Schnueff> kewl got no EOF from sourceforge :)
10.20.56 #       <dwihno> Schnueff: you got the red led dead problem?
10.21.06 #       <Schnueff> i guess not
10.21.13 #       <Schnueff> but i don't shake it anyway...
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14.13.54 #       <Luuk> hi @ all
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16.25.49 #       <Quelsaruk> re
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16.31.50 #       <dwihno> hardeep: nice playlist feature
16.35.36 #       <hardeep> dwihno: thanks
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19.34.06 #       <midknight2k3> yay!
19.34.11 #       <midknight2k3> did you get a response?
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19.35.18 #       <thu> midknight2k3: naw
19.35.25 #       <thu> :-\
19.35.31 #       <midknight2k3> :(
19.35.32 #       <midknight2k3> BOOO
19.35.38 #       <midknight2k3> EMUSIC SUX
19.35.45 #       <midknight2k3> we need earHurts.
19.50.25 #       <midknight2k3> bbiam
19.50.29 #       <midknight2k3> be back in a minute
19.50.33 #       <midknight2k3> or five ;)
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20.07.19 #       <midknight2k3> ok
20.07.21 #       <midknight2k3> i am back
20.07.38 #       <thu> wb
20.07.52 #       <midknight2k3> ty
20.08.25 #       <midknight2k3> well
20.08.39 #       <midknight2k3> that Archos AV-340 looks nice doesn't it
20.08.41 #       <midknight2k3> http://archos.com/download/pictures/picts/archos_av340_01.jpg
20.11.13 #       <thu> yeah so do $600 in my pocket
20.11.28 #       <midknight2k3> yes i guess
20.11.36 #       <midknight2k3> i wish i could have one for free
20.12.33 #       <Quelsaruk> i wish i could have $600
20.12.57 #       <midknight2k3> well if you want to go that way, I wish I had a billon billion dollars.
20.21.44 #       <Quelsaruk> ummm
20.21.49 #       <Quelsaruk> i want to be realistic ;)
20.21.57 #       <midknight2k3> ok...
20.22.12 #       <midknight2k3> i wish i could have $602.50
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20.33.09 #       <Stevie[FP]> nobody here would happen to be familiar with writing wdm device drivers, would they?
20.33.20 #       <midknight2k3> no
20.38.11 #       <hardeep> Stevie[FP]: just the basics
21.05.13 #       <Quelsaruk> cu tomorrow
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21.15.51 #       <Zagor> hi guys
21.16.02 #       <midknight2k3> hye it's Zagor!
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21.17.31 #       <tracktheripper> hello
21.17.38 #       <midknight2k3> hye and tracktheripper
21.17.47 #       <tracktheripper> hi midknighty
21.18.00 #       <midknight2k3> :D
21.18.07 #       <midknight2k3> see the new plugin system
21.19.15 #       <tracktheripper> yea I saw
21.19.17 #       <tracktheripper> and Sokoban works
21.19.25 #       <midknight2k3> it didn't beforee?
21.19.39 #       <midknight2k3> you didn't put the LEVELS in .rockbox\sokoban!
21.20.03 #       <tracktheripper> I DID!
21.20.08 #       <midknight2k3> WOW!
21.20.11 #       <midknight2k3> you know whats cool
21.20.18 #       <midknight2k3> you can now make your OWN levels!
21.20.19 #       <midknight2k3> YAY!
21.20.37 #       <tracktheripper> heehee
21.21.44 #       <Zagor> did you guys try 'star' yet? it's a bit like sokoban too
21.21.55 #       <midknight2k3> i can't for a while
21.22.36 #       <tracktheripper> yea I tried Star
21.22.49 #       <tracktheripper> Zagor how about a basic driving or flight simulation game?
21.22.57 #       <midknight2k3> yeah!
21.23.01 #       <midknight2k3> not flight sim
21.23.02 #       <Zagor> sure, if anyone writes it.
21.23.06 #       <hardeep> i wonder if all the star levels can be beaten... i remember getting stuck at one last year
21.23.09 #       <Zagor> i haven't written any of the current games
21.23.11 #       <midknight2k3> wouldn't flight sim b real hard?
21.23.21 #       <Zagor> hardeep: hehe
21.23.49 #       <midknight2k3> zagor - doesn't a plugin have to be size-limited?
21.23.49 #       <Zagor> midknight2k3: depends on how flashy graphics you want
21.23.55 #       <midknight2k3> like it can't be a real big game
21.24.00 #       <hardeep> Zagor: i had a thought about plugin versioning...
21.24.03 #       <tracktheripper> not something like Microsoft Flight Simulator, something like Space Impact!
21.24.05 #       <Zagor> midknight2k3: yes, 32k. but you can fit a lot of stuff in 32k
21.24.11 #       <midknight2k3> haha track
21.24.16 #       <Zagor> hardeep: ok?
21.24.23 #       <midknight2k3> i wouldn't know.
21.24.29 #       <hardeep> Zagor: so long as we just add new functions to the api structure... the plugin code should be backwards compatible
21.24.36 #       <tracktheripper> the Flippit game is pretty addictive
21.24.40 #       <Zagor> hardeep: yes
21.24.44 #       <hardeep> Zagor: so could we change the version check to <=
21.25.02 #       <hardeep> Zagor: saves people from having to recompile plugins every time a new function is added
21.25.10 #       <Zagor> hardeep: no. because new plugins expect all functions to be there. running them on an old rockbox would thus make it crash
21.25.19 #       <MT> hmm - my £0.02 - keep the plugins as .rock extension
21.25.20 #       <tracktheripper> Zagor with this plug-in system is there an unlimited of plugins that can be put in the .rocks folder?
21.25.28 #       <Zagor> tracktheripper: yes
21.25.29 #       <hardeep> Zagor: right, we're not forwards compatible... but we are backwards compatible
21.25.36 #       <MT> (reading through mail list)
21.25.41 #       <hardeep> so, if plugin version <= current version, we're okay
21.25.46 #       <midknight2k3> cool - in a bit we'll have lots of addons
21.26.03 #       <midknight2k3> zagor - you guys should make a "rocks" area similar to the patches section
21.26.06 #       <Zagor> hardeep: ah, now i read what you're saying :-)
21.26.13 #       <midknight2k3> so people can share what they make
21.26.13 #       <tracktheripper> An ID3 editor and a comprehensive playlist maker and a basic song editor would be good ideas for plugins
21.26.15 #       <Zagor> midknight2k3: yes, that's been suggested
21.26.57 #       <Zagor> hardeep: the question is - what do we do if one of the old functions changes some parameters?
21.27.06 #       <hardeep> Zagor: and just in case a change breaks backwards compatibility... we could also have a min_version define... so if min version <= plugin version <= current version, we're good
21.27.07 #       <tracktheripper> Zagor how about a way to implement your OWN picture for the Sliding Puzzle plug-in?
21.27.17 #       <midknight2k3> calm down track!
21.27.28 #       <Zagor> tracktheripper: don't ask me, ask the guy who wrote that plugin
21.27.28 #       <midknight2k3> you're overexcited
21.27.42 #       <Zagor> i "only" wrote the plugin system
21.27.49 #       <midknight2k3> yes
21.27.50 #       <tracktheripper> ohhh
21.27.51 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
21.27.53 #       <midknight2k3> good job
21.27.57 #       <midknight2k3> even though i didnt test it yet
21.28.00 #       <tracktheripper> very good job
21.28.08 #       <tracktheripper> works great midknighty
21.28.17 #       <midknight2k3> i bet
21.28.26 #       <midknight2k3> if Zagor wrote it!
21.28.56 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
21.29.08 #       <tracktheripper> I wrote the Star game :-)
21.29.20 #       <midknight2k3> you.... wish.
21.29.55 #       <tracktheripper> :P
21.31.53 #       <Zagor> i think i found the reason why player STOP broke
21.32.08 #       <Zagor> mpeg.c:2977      PAIOR |= 0x0800; /* output for /PR */
21.32.33 #       <Zagor> button.c:338     if ( !(porta & 0x800) )
21.32.34 #       <Zagor>         btn |= BUTTON_STOP | BUTTON_DOWN;
21.32.44 #       <Zagor> oops :-)
21.32.55 #       <tracktheripper> (-:
21.33.02 #       <midknight2k3> heh
21.33.13 #       <tracktheripper> Zagor Midknight wants a feature to change the colour of the LCD backlight
21.33.26 #       <midknight2k3> yes i do!
21.33.29 #       <midknight2k3> how can i?
21.33.33 #       <Zagor> change the leds
21.33.39 #       <midknight2k3> i knew that!
21.34.10 #       <MT> Zagor: is there a way to specify that a plugin is loaded immediately on boot up?
21.35.29 #       <Zagor> MT: no
21.36.03 #       <Zagor> when would you want that?
21.36.57 #       <MT> i use my fm as an alarm clock and a 'falling asleep' music
21.37.14 #       <MT> unfortunately, i cant wake up at the same volume as i can fall asleep to
21.37.15 #       <MT> ;)
21.38.15 #       <tracktheripper> :-)
21.38.42 #       <MT> so i thought a simple plugin to power off and set the rtc after a set time, and then on bootup to gradually increase the volume
21.38.49 #       <MT> er
21.38.54 #       <MT> i dont mean rtc
21.39.49 #       <tracktheripper> midknight u also wanted the LCD to be like a touchscreen on a PDA :-P
21.39.59 #       <midknight2k3> I sure did
21.40.14 #       <Zagor> i want it to print refill my visa card
21.41.00 #       <tracktheripper> and I want it to show Zagor's face on the LCD when the USB cable is plugged in :-)
21.41.10 #       <midknight2k3> HAHAHA
21.41.12 #       <midknight2k3> yes please
21.41.16 #       <MT> thats feasible
21.41.39 #       <tracktheripper> u could even do an "animated face" on the LCD so the mouth moves in sync with the song lyrics!
21.47.55 #       <midknight2k3> i have a better idea
21.48.00 #       <midknight2k3> SCROLLING LYRICS
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21.49.59 #       <tracktheripper> a bpm counter would be cool
21.50.11 #       <midknight2k3> track!
21.50.20 #       <midknight2k3> private message thing
21.50.23 #       <tracktheripper> what?
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21.50.58 #       <midknight2k3> odd'
21.51.04 #       <tracktheripper> ??/
21.51.24 #       <midknight2k3> you said dont go to sourceforge or something
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21.51.55 #       <midknight2k3> stop that
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21.54.14 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha
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21.56.56 #       <tracktheripper> WELCOME EVERYONE
21.57.04 #       <midknight2k3> hello
21.57.13 #       <midknight2k3> why didnt you want me to go to sourceforge
21.58.37 #       <tracktheripper> i did not mention sauceforge
21.58.42 #       <tracktheripper> or something like that
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21.58.53 #       <midknight2k3> sauceforge?
21.59.03 #       <midknight2k3> are you okay, tracktheripper?
21.59.18 #       <tracktheripper> sorry spelling error
21.59.27 #       <midknight2k3> yes you did!
21.59.41 #       <midknight2k3> you said "please don't go to sourceforge! :(" or something
21.59.49 #       <tracktheripper> no i didn't
21.59.51 #       <tracktheripper> :(
21.59.56 #       <midknight2k3> GRR
21.59.58 #       <midknight2k3> YES YOU DID!
22.00.55 #       <tracktheripper> no i didn't and don't shout :-)
22.00.57 #       <midknight2k3> thats why you kept dying!
22.01.02 #       <midknight2k3> -lilo- [Global Notice] Hi all.  We just experienced extreme lag on a US hub; we've swapped in backup hubbing arrangements and hope they will remain stable.  Apologies for the inconvenience, and thank you for using freenode.
22.01.55 Join    Neo [0] (~Neo@209.187.167.213)
22.02.03 #       <Neo> hey everyone
22.02.10 #       <tracktheripper> only asked for a driver that is digitally signed
22.02.11 #       <midknight2k3> hey
22.02.14 #       <Neo> yeh
22.02.27 #       <midknight2k3> what track?
22.02.29 #       <Neo> im thinking about buying a archos jukebox 20 recorder?
22.02.30 #       <midknight2k3> you're confusing
22.02.34 #       <midknight2k3> yeah!
22.02.34 #       <Neo> is it worth the money
22.02.37 #       <midknight2k3> good idea
22.02.38 #       <midknight2k3> yes
22.02.40 #       <midknight2k3> VERY much
22.02.41 #       <Neo> ok
22.02.44 #       <tracktheripper> its in sourceforge
22.02.48 #       <midknight2k3> with rockbxo especially
22.02.51 #       <Neo> yejh
22.02.54 #       <Neo> *yeh
22.03.00 #       <Neo> i was going to update to rockbox
22.03.12 #       <Neo> are the're any major glithces
22.03.15 #       <Neo> like locking up
22.03.15 #       <midknight2k3> as long as it's a recorder
22.03.20 #       <midknight2k3> not that i know
22.03.30 #       <midknight2k3> and there's a new plugin loader!
22.03.30 #       <Zagor> Neo: no
22.03.39 #       <midknight2k3> so people can make stuff for it like agmes and stuff
22.03.52 #       <Neo> plugin loader?
22.03.58 #       <tracktheripper> you can't make agmes
22.04.05 #       <midknight2k3> games
22.04.15 #       <Neo> where can i find this
22.04.16 #       <midknight2k3> yep - lots of stuff
22.04.21 #       <midknight2k3> it's now in rockbox
22.04.24 #       <tracktheripper> u said agmes!
22.04.27 #       <Zagor> Neo: it's in the daily builds
22.04.28 #       <midknight2k3> i meant games
22.04.30 #       <midknight2k3> grr
22.04.36 #       <Neo> cool
22.04.38 #       <Neo> yeh
22.04.43 #       <Neo> i think ill get one
22.04.45 #       <Zagor> Neo: which model do you have?
22.04.53 #       <midknight2k3> he's going to get a recorder 20
22.05.03 #       <tracktheripper> Midknight there is a numberplate for sale that reads L1 NUS
22.05.12 #       <midknight2k3> neat
22.05.20 #       <Neo> o thanks, im thinking of getting one
22.06.05 #       <Neo> compare to ipod?
22.06.25 #       <midknight2k3> iPod is a bit smaller and stuff but archos has rockbox, i'd take archos over ipod any day
22.06.28 #       <Zagor> ipods only strengths are the size and the mac integration
22.06.35 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
22.06.36 #       <tracktheripper> but the Ipod feels nicer
22.06.40 #       <tracktheripper> i held one
22.06.42 #       <tracktheripper> yesterday
22.06.46 #       <midknight2k3> really?
22.06.47 #       <midknight2k3> WOW
22.06.51 #       <midknight2k3> cool
22.06.57 #       <midknight2k3> you held an ipod?
22.06.57 #       <Neo> yeh
22.06.57 #       <midknight2k3> where
22.06.58 #       <Neo> me too
22.07.01 #       <Neo> my friend has one
22.07.05 #       <tracktheripper> the Archos is a breeze block in comparison :-(
22.07.12 #       <Neo> how is the sound on the archos?
22.07.18 #       <midknight2k3> very good as well
22.07.24 #       <midknight2k3> rockbox improves it most people agree
22.07.27 #       <Zagor> Neo: ask him what happens when you play big tracks. or how you make it play songs gapless.
22.07.41 #       <midknight2k3> yeah hahah
22.08.10 #       <Neo> he sais it plays perfectly
22.08.31 #       <Zagor> Neo: most people say that, until they try players that don't leave gaps :)
22.08.42 #       <Zagor> anyway, i'm biased...
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22.08.55 #       <tracktheripper> u don;t like the Player Zagor......
22.09.03 #       <Neo> what do u mean by gaps
22.09.03 #       <Zagor> ?
22.09.20 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Hi!
22.09.30 #       <Zagor> a short moment of silence between two songs
22.09.39 #       <Zagor> or sometimes even in the middle of songs
22.09.55 #       <Neo> like a skip?
22.10.04 #       <Zagor> no, just a pause
22.10.12 #       <Neo> he sais no pause
22.10.21 #       <Zagor> ok
22.10.27 #       <Neo> does the archos have pauses?
22.10.52 #       <Zagor> rockbox doesn't, if your data is gapless
22.11.08 #       <Neo> u mean, the copy of the song
22.11.13 #       <Neo> if its perfect
22.11.16 #       <Neo> it wont pause
22.11.21 #       <Zagor> yes
22.11.24 #       <Neo> ok
22.11.30 #       <Neo> how does rockbox look
22.11.38 #       <midknight2k3> very nice
22.11.41 #       <Neo> ok
22.11.45 #       <midknight2k3> they pay good attention to the interface
22.11.50 #       <midknight2k3> custom fonts and stuff
22.11.51 #       <Neo> is the backlight good>?
22.11.57 #       <midknight2k3> bright green
22.12.02 #       <midknight2k3> works well
22.12.12 #       <Neo> how much was urs?
22.12.14 #       <tracktheripper> yea
22.12.24 #       <midknight2k3> I have an fm recorder
22.12.26 #       <tracktheripper> backlight doesn't drain the batteries much
22.12.30 #       <midknight2k3> i used to have a recorder
22.12.38 #       <midknight2k3> i leave my backlight on all day every day
22.12.52 #       <Neo> do u like the recorder better?
22.12.55 #       <midknight2k3> i don't remember the cost, like 279.99 at best buy
22.13.01 #       <midknight2k3> they're very similar
22.13.07 #       <Neo> just
22.13.09 #       <Zagor> Neo: you want the recorder. it has a much better display.
22.13.09 #       <tracktheripper> the Player can only display characters on its LCD
22.13.18 #       <midknight2k3> fm recorder is a bit better it has a lithium battery and a radio
22.13.19 #       <tracktheripper> it only has 22 character cells
22.13.21 #       <tracktheripper> the Player
22.13.21 #       <Neo> one has a fm tunre though
22.13.47 #       <midknight2k3> to clarify: recorder 20 and fm recorder 20
22.13.53 #       <Neo> um, the lithium battery compared to the aa rechargable
22.14.04 #       <Zagor> aa wins easily
22.14.10 #       <Neo> ok
22.14.12 #       <midknight2k3> fm recorder is the recorder with a lithium ion battery, fm tuner, and an alarm function
22.14.15 #       <Neo> its 10 hrs right
22.14.26 #       <midknight2k3> about that
22.14.26 #       <thu> bleh .. still no reply
22.14.27 #       <Zagor> depends on which batteries you use.
22.14.30 #       <tracktheripper> yea but Zagor li-ion cells don't have the "memory defect"
22.14.34 #       <midknight2k3> sorry thu lol
22.14.39 #       <tracktheripper> Ni-MH cells do
22.14.43 #       <Zagor> one guy just reported 15 hours on the list with 2100 mAh batteries
22.14.54 #       <midknight2k3> wow
22.15.03 #       <tracktheripper> yea but Zagor NiMH cells need replacing every now and then
22.15.04 #       <Zagor> tracktheripper: you should read a bit before claiming that
22.15.09 #       <tracktheripper> because of the "memory defect"
22.15.15 #       <tracktheripper> i have read that Zagor
22.15.16 #       <midknight2k3> uy yuyuy
22.15.20 #       <Zagor> tracktheripper: yeah, for $0.98 a piece. boohoo.
22.15.24 #       <midknight2k3> calm down uyuyuy
22.15.29 #       <midknight2k3> haha
22.15.37 #       <thu> lol.. you can buy a song with that money :)
22.15.44 #       <midknight2k3> actually
22.15.45 #       <tracktheripper> yea but then you spoil the battery covers when you keep removing them
22.15.47 #       <midknight2k3> you need a penny more
22.15.53 #       <midknight2k3> hahahahahhah
22.16.01 #       <midknight2k3> "SPOIL the BATTERY COVERS"?
22.16.08 #       <midknight2k3> im glad logbot keeps this logged
22.16.13 #       <midknight2k3> i shall return one day and laugh
22.16.16 #       <Zagor> tracktheripper: you're really desperate for reasons, aren't you?
22.16.20 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha
22.16.24 #       <midknight2k3> i agree with zagor
22.16.27 #       <tracktheripper> thats just me Zagor :-)
22.16.30 #       <midknight2k3> how do you spoil the battery covers
22.16.40 #       <midknight2k3> stop confusing neo
22.16.53 #       <tracktheripper> they get scratched
22.16.59 #       <midknight2k3> Neo, there is no such thing as spoiling the battery covers
22.17.05 #       <midknight2k3> boo hoo!
22.17.17 #       <tracktheripper> and they don't fit properly after a while..........
22.17.24 #       <midknight2k3> leave them off then track
22.17.35 #       <midknight2k3> get replacements
22.17.41 #       <midknight2k3> do something so you shut up
22.17.47 #       <tracktheripper> but then that spoils' the Archo's good looks :-P
22.17.49 #       <tracktheripper> heehee
22.17.53 #       <Neo> haha
22.17.53 #       <Neo> ok
22.17.54 #       <Neo> thanks
22.17.57 #       <midknight2k3> bye
22.17.59 #       <midknight2k3> good luck
22.17.59 #       <Neo> so, archos or ipod
22.18.02 #       <midknight2k3> pick the archos!
22.18.11 #       <Neo> ill stay on
22.18.12 #       <midknight2k3> ar-chos! ar-chos!
22.18.19 #       <Neo> to talk a bit
22.18.23 #       <tracktheripper> i-pod i-pod!
22.18.28 #       <Neo> no
22.18.30 #       <midknight2k3> to watch tracktheripper get furious over the spoilt battery covers?
22.18.30 #       <Neo> i like archos
22.18.44 #       <Zagor> Neo: it's pretty easy. if you value size more than features, go for ipod. if you want features, go for archos
22.19.00 #       <midknight2k3> and zagor, it has many many better features with rockbox
22.19.29 #       <Neo> yeh
22.19.34 #       <Neo> how heavy is the archos
22.19.43 #       <tracktheripper> not that heavy
22.19.49 #       <tracktheripper> but it doesn't fit in a shirt pocket
22.19.59 #       <midknight2k3> it nearly does track
22.20.05 #       <midknight2k3> the ipod is the only thing that can
22.20.08 #       <Neo> how is the case
22.20.14 #       <midknight2k3> solid
22.20.17 #       <midknight2k3> it feels solid
22.20.20 #       <midknight2k3> i liked that part
22.20.20 #       <tracktheripper> its made of wet suit material
22.20.25 #       <midknight2k3> TRACK!
22.20.26 #       <Zagor> it's 220g or something. don't remember exactly.
22.20.33 #       <midknight2k3> don't comfuse the hungry customer
22.20.34 #       <tracktheripper> what?
22.20.37 #       <midknight2k3> i thuink its 120g
22.20.44 #       <Neo> can u operate inside the case?
22.20.52 #       <midknight2k3> modifications? yes
22.20.59 #       <tracktheripper> and Neo, the Archos shows up as a drive in My Computer
22.21.02 #       <midknight2k3> people replace the hard drive
22.21.04 #       <tracktheripper> so you just drag and drop onto it
22.21.09 #       <midknight2k3> yeah it's like a portable hard drivwe
22.21.13 #       <Zagor> Neo: the case it ships with is a simple neoprene pocket type
22.21.21 #       <Neo> awesome
22.21.28 #       <Neo> is it easy 2 use in the case
22.21.37 #       <midknight2k3> you cant use it in the case
22.21.39 #       <tracktheripper> you can't use it in the case as there is no holes
22.21.40 #       <Neo> o
22.21.41 #       <midknight2k3> you have to take it out :(
22.21.46 #       <Neo> o
22.21.48 #       <Zagor> you can, but it's not very easy
22.21.49 #       <midknight2k3> you could cut holes
22.21.52 #       <tracktheripper> but you can always cut holes it it
22.21.54 #       <Neo> that sucks
22.21.56 #       <midknight2k3> you can feel for the buttons heh
22.21.56 #       <Neo> yeh
22.22.01 #       <Neo> lol
22.22.05 #       <tracktheripper> or you could always sew one up yourself
22.22.10 #       <midknight2k3> the play one sticks up a bit
22.22.10 #       <Neo> at least it protects it
22.22.14 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
22.22.19 #       <midknight2k3> that's the main purpose
22.22.26 #       <tracktheripper> or you could wrap it in clingfilm........... :-)
22.22.31 #       <midknight2k3> it does a good job - its very cushiony
22.22.32 #       <tracktheripper> protection and usability!
22.22.34 #       <Neo> have u heard of the classic jukebox
22.22.37 #       <midknight2k3> yeah!
22.22.41 #       <midknight2k3> player?
22.22.43 #       <Neo> yeh
22.22.44 #       <midknight2k3> boo!
22.22.47 #       <midknight2k3> Ugh!
22.22.51 #       <Neo> archos better?
22.22.51 #       <midknight2k3> never buy one
22.22.54 #       <Neo> yeh
22.22.55 #       <Neo> so ive heard
22.23.02 #       <midknight2k3> recorder is best
22.23.07 #       <tracktheripper> But you can always use the 22 character cells for graphics since they are close together......
22.23.08 #       <Zagor> Neo: are you talking about the the old Personal Jukebox?
22.23.13 #       <Neo> is another rockbox versions comming out
22.23.21 #       <midknight2k3> every day usually
22.23.28 #       <Neo> really?
22.23.28 #       <midknight2k3> it goes on for very long time
22.23.29 #       <Zagor> we release a daily build every day
22.23.31 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
22.23.35 #       <Neo> o
22.23.37 #       <Neo> new games?
22.23.40 #       <midknight2k3> sometimes its got new stuff in it
22.23.45 #       <Zagor> there's not always new stuff every day, though
22.23.45 #       <midknight2k3> with the new plugin loader, yes
22.23.52 #       <midknight2k3> yeah - sometimes
22.23.54 #       <Neo> where is the plugin loader?
22.24.02 #       <midknight2k3> in the newest rockbox daily build
22.24.05 #       <midknight2k3> built in
22.24.15 #       <midknight2k3> then you get files it can load like games and demos
22.24.21 #       <midknight2k3> soon other stuff
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22.24.30 #       <midknight2k3> applications and stuff
22.24.49 #       <Neo> the rockbox-2.0-recorder.zip
22.24.55 #       <midknight2k3> no
22.24.56 #       <Neo> is thuat replaced everyday?
22.25.00 #       <midknight2k3> under the daily builds section
22.25.00 #       <Neo> o
22.25.08 #       <midknight2k3> you need the .rockbox folder in there
22.25.13 #       <Neo> o
22.25.14 #       <Neo> ok
22.25.16 #       <Neo> found it
22.25.18 #       <midknight2k3> and a new firmware file - daily build
22.25.20 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
22.25.24 #       <Neo> do i get the top one?
22.25.31 #       <midknight2k3> hang on
22.25.46 #       <Neo> k
22.25.49 #       <midknight2k3> i think at the bottom
22.26.02 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
22.26.14 #       <Neo> so id get archos20030702.ajz 
22.26.34 #       <Neo> ?
22.26.38 #       <midknight2k3> get the 2.0 version and use that one's .rockbox, a new dailybuild (the one you just said) and the rocks for it
22.26.59 #       <midknight2k3> the .rockbox is a folder with fonts and stuff inside it
22.27.11 #       <Neo> yeh
22.27.12 #       <Neo> i have taht
22.27.13 #       <midknight2k3> you need that from the rockbox-2.0-recorder.zip
22.27.13 #       <midknight2k3> > no
22.27.14 #       <Neo> then i get
22.27.15 #       <Neo> archos20030702.ajz 
22.27.17 #       <Neo> and install that?
22.27.30 #       <midknight2k3> but you need to rename it to "ajbrec.ajz"
22.27.48 #       <midknight2k3> and put it on the archos in the root directory
22.27.56 #       <midknight2k3> then you need the rocks
22.27.59 #       <midknight2k3> the plugins
22.28.02 #       <Neo> then do i put that on the jukebox?
22.28.06 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
22.28.24 #       <midknight2k3> put the rocks in the .rockbox folder under a new folder called "rocks"
22.28.30 #       <midknight2k3> and you're all set
22.28.40 #       <Neo> is rocks 
22.28.41 #       <Neo> archos20030702.ajz?
22.28.53 #       <midknight2k3> no
22.28.56 #       <midknight2k3> right by it see
22.29.05 #       <midknight2k3> it says rocks
22.29.08 #       <midknight2k3> you need those
22.29.11 #       <midknight2k3> which are plugins
22.29.18 #       <Neo> all three of them?
22.29.21 #       <midknight2k3> no
22.29.32 #       <midknight2k3> just the one next to the version youre getting
22.29.36 #       <Neo> gotcha
22.29.37 #       <midknight2k3> in this case the bottom one
22.29.40 #       <Neo> ok
22.29.44 #       <midknight2k3> and that's that
22.29.51 #       <Neo> and what do i do with the ajc?
22.29.55 #       <midknight2k3> then you get to put your stuff on it and check it out
22.30.03 #       <midknight2k3> ajz you mean?
22.30.11 #       <midknight2k3> rename the firmware file 
22.30.14 #       <Neo> yeh
22.30.16 #       <Neo> to what
22.30.21 #       <midknight2k3> ajbrec.ajz
22.30.34 #       <midknight2k3> which is Archos JukeBox RECorder
22.30.56 #       <midknight2k3> then it goes on the archos - in the root directory
22.30.57 #       <Neo> do i jsut drag that one file onto the jukebox
22.31.00 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
22.31.04 #       <Neo> then the rocks folder
22.31.04 #       <midknight2k3> but not in a folder
22.31.27 #       <Neo> the rocks
22.31.29 #       <midknight2k3> you need to name the firmware, then put it on the archos
22.31.35 #       <Neo> yeh
22.31.35 #       <Neo> then
22.31.38 #       <midknight2k3> then get the .rockbox and put it on the archos
22.31.43 #       <Neo> ok
22.31.51 #       <Neo> and taht has a rock folder in it
22.31.53 #       <Neo> with the rocks
22.31.55 #       <midknight2k3> then put all the rocks in the .rockbox folder under a folder inside of .rockbox called rocks
22.31.58 #       <midknight2k3> no
22.32.07 #       <midknight2k3> you need to make a rocks folder in .rockbox
22.32.10 #       <midknight2k3> it's not there yet
22.32.20 #       <Neo> yeh
22.32.22 #       <Neo> tahts what i mean
22.32.26 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
22.32.34 #       <midknight2k3> it's "rocks" too not "rock"
22.32.54 #       <Neo> the zip already had a ajbrec.ajz
22.32.55 #       <Neo> in it
22.32.58 #       <Neo> should i use that one
22.33.03 #       <midknight2k3> no
22.33.07 #       <Neo> use the good one
22.33.08 #       <midknight2k3> just use the .rockbox
22.33.08 #       <Neo> ok
22.33.16 #       <midknight2k3> the new daily build is the ajz you want
22.33.21 #       <Neo> ok
22.33.29 #       <midknight2k3> the ajz in the recorder package is old
22.33.36 #       <midknight2k3> daily builds are newer
22.33.39 #       <Neo> this rockbox-daily-20030702.tar.gz?
22.33.49 #       <midknight2k3> no
22.33.55 #       <midknight2k3> unless you can compile it youself
22.34.00 #       <Neo> nope
22.34.05 #       <midknight2k3> ok
22.34.08 #       <Neo> this one?
22.34.09 #       <Neo> archos20030702.ajz
22.34.16 #       <midknight2k3> yes
22.34.23 #       <Neo> ok
22.34.39 #       <midknight2k3> rename that to the ajbrec.ajz and put it in the root of the archos
22.34.46 #       <Neo> ok
22.34.53 #       <midknight2k3> then the rocks and all
22.34.56 #       <Neo> itll be clear probably once i get it
22.35.02 #       <Neo> but i have to go now
22.35.02 #       <midknight2k3> you can pick a font too
22.35.05 #       <midknight2k3> i use atadore
22.35.12 #       <midknight2k3> and the WPS is customizable
22.35.12 #       <Neo> thanks for the tips guys
22.35.15 #       <midknight2k3> ok bye
22.35.20 #       <Neo> ill get one within the next few days
22.35.26 #       <midknight2k3> come back when you do
22.35.28 #       <Neo> are u always online?
22.35.33 #       <Neo> on thsi channel
22.35.36 #       <midknight2k3> not me but i am most of the time
22.35.41 #       <Neo> ok
22.35.47 #       <midknight2k3> a lot of people stay here but don't really look at it
22.35.56 #       <midknight2k3> i come in a lot though
22.35.58 #       <Neo> ok
22.36.00 #       <Neo> thanks
22.36.04 #       <midknight2k3> all right
22.36.07 #       <midknight2k3> bye
22.36.14 #       <midknight2k3> you can also
22.36.23 #       <midknight2k3> look at how to do the wps and all
22.36.42 #       <midknight2k3> we can talk about that later
22.36.54 #       <midknight2k3> it's not important yet
22.36.58 #       <midknight2k3> not till you get it ;)
22.37.26 #       <Neo> ok
22.37.27 #       <Neo> thanks
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22.37.33 #       <midknight2k3> all right
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23.04.12 #       <midknight2k3> hey
23.04.14 #       <midknight2k3> DONT GO
23.04.16 #       <midknight2k3> lol
23.04.24 #       <midknight2k3> when did you get here?
23.08.08 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Hi Björn, do you read?
23.08.25 #       <midknight2k3> Yes he does.
23.08.39 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Can he speak for himself?
23.08.39 #       <Zagor> yup
23.08.48 #       <midknight2k3> Sorry.
23.08.58 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I just had a premiere: (drumroll)
23.09.07 #       <midknight2k3> WHAT'S THAT?
23.09.28 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I've flashed a full firmware using my UART boot.
23.09.45 #       <midknight2k3> you mean....?
23.09.55 #       <Zagor> yay
23.10.01 #       <midknight2k3> cooool
23.10.31 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Not Rockbox yet, but by this I've upgrades a 1.26 recorder to 1.28
23.10.45 #       <midknight2k3> awesome
23.10.49 #       <midknight2k3> very cool
23.10.59 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Now I'm working on the 2nd level boot loader we talked about.
23.11.38 #       <Zagor> great. i'm looking forward to trying it.
23.11.50 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Well, I'd minimize the chat for a while to compose an image containing Rockbox.
23.12.42 #       <[IDC]Dragon> It's mostly handcrafting by now, no tooling to author it exists yet.
23.12.43 #       <midknight2k3> so will this soon be something all users can do?
23.12.48 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Yes.
23.12.52 #       <midknight2k3> cool
23.13.04 #       <midknight2k3> some sort of a firmwar you can run that puts rockbox in flash or wahtever
23.13.30 #       <[IDC]Dragon> OK, I'm off for a while, just wanted to share tha moment of success with you.
23.13.44 #       <midknight2k3> very cool
23.14.00 #       <midknight2k3> thank you for sharing
23.17.07 #       <midknight2k3> who bets rockbox will make it to flash this year
23.17.16 #       <midknight2k3> i mean this month :)
23.17.26 #       <Zagor> :)
23.17.31 #       <midknight2k3> ME!
23.17.57 #       <midknight2k3> the only thing i am sure of is that you can never be sure of anything
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23.32.46 #       <Jamed> Hey
23.32.53 #       <midknight2k3> hey
23.33.14 #       <Jamed> quick question, i skimmed the last 5 months of the mailing list and didnt find anything,
23.34.01 #       <Jamed> How does one "play" a .wps? I can't get view any of them on the player's file-browser
23.34.16 #       <midknight2k3> press F2
23.34.26 #       <midknight2k3> then choose Show Files: All
23.34.30 #       <midknight2k3> then F2 again
23.34.38 #       <midknight2k3> should make them come up
23.34.52 #       <Zagor> "supported" is enough, but of course "all" works too
23.34.54 #       <Jamed> I use player, not recorder, so no F2
23.35.01 #       <midknight2k3> oh.
23.35.15 #       <Zagor> then go to menu->general->file view
23.35.24 #       <midknight2k3> beat me to it zagor :)
23.35.45 #       <Jamed> Ok, that worked ;D thanks to both of you.
23.36.01 #       <midknight2k3> ok
23.36.14 #       * Zagor is making dwinho very happy...
23.36.21 #       * midknight2k3 asks how
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23.36.32 #       <Zagor> snake is back!
23.36.37 #       <midknight2k3> snake?
23.36.40 #       <midknight2k3> or wormlet?
23.36.41 #       <midknight2k3> what?
23.36.46 #       <midknight2k3> you had snake before?
23.36.54 #       <Zagor> yes
23.36.57 #       <midknight2k3> YES! YAY!
23.37.08 #       <midknight2k3> Wormlet is similar though
23.37.10 #       <midknight2k3> actually
23.37.11 #       <MT> i ought to submit my wormlet patch :/
23.37.16 #       <midknight2k3> if you use MT's patch
23.37.18 #       <midknight2k3> yeahhahha
23.37.26 #       <MT> rewrite it for rocks
23.37.33 #       <midknight2k3> just one player  and one worm, no arghs, and that's that
23.37.33 #       <Zagor> there can never be too many snake games :-)
23.37.39 #       <midknight2k3> yeah yayay!
23.38.38 #       <MT> Zagor: mine lets you set almost anything in wormlet, so you get snake, wormlet, moster-sized-argh-wormlet, slow-old-granny-snake etc etc
23.38.50 #       <midknight2k3> yeahhah
23.38.54 #       <midknight2k3> granny snake
23.39.08 #       <Zagor> MT: sounds good.
23.39.18 #       <midknight2k3> you can set worm speed, argh size, argh density, points per food
23.39.31 #       <midknight2k3> it's very good
23.39.35 #       <midknight2k3> good job mt
23.39.43 #       <MT> i shall have a look tonight, see if i can make a patch to the new wormlet rock
23.39.53 #       <midknight2k3> speaking of which
23.39.59 #       <midknight2k3> some new patches can be rock files
23.40.07 #       <MT> remembers the high score too :o
23.40.15 #       <midknight2k3> i got a wormlet over flow
23.40.23 #       <MT> yes
23.40.25 #       <midknight2k3> i set points per food to 50
23.40.26 #       <Zagor> midknight2k3: bingo! and you win the grand prize... :)
23.40.32 #       <MT> that problem existed in original wormlet too
23.40.45 #       <MT> you just werent good enough to get enough points :)
23.40.53 #       <midknight2k3> and i got a lot and then i went to like score 550 and then it went to 10 again and i went through myself or something
23.41.01 #       <MT> yep
23.41.01 #       <midknight2k3> it was cool
23.41.12 #       <midknight2k3> i get the prize! yay!
23.41.14 #       <MT> you can sometimes end up with 0
23.41.20 #       <MT> which is even more fun
23.41.26 #       <MT> as you cant see yourself move
23.41.42 #       <MT> just got to hope you hit a food before an argh
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