--- Log for 03.07.103 Server: einstein.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 1 day and 14 hours ago 00.06.00 Join msoultan [0] (msoultan@dhcp202-057.csulb.edu) 00.06.09 # hello? 00.06.16 # hey 00.06.23 # cooool 00.06.30 # this is my first time here.. 00.06.30 # what? 00.06.48 # youre lucky theres a couple people here if you need something 00.06.53 # there isn't alyways 00.06.56 # always 00.07.00 # I was hoping someone could tell me how to create the .rockbox folder 00.07.11 # oh 00.07.13 # just tried the latest bleeding edge and it won't play anything.. 00.07.21 # yeah... 00.07.22 # looking through the archives, couldn't find anything.. 00.07.36 # well what you have to do is to download the rockbox 2.0 zip file and it's in there 00.07.38 # probably the same reason I can't write a .cfg file 00.07.43 # ahhhhhh 00.07.44 # just pop the .rockbox folder in there onto the archos 00.07.48 # ok, lemme check that out.. 00.07.50 # yeah 00.07.53 # brb 00.08.03 # even if you make it you wont have the stuff to put in it, so you need that one 00.08.04 # ok 00.08.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> Rockbox is in flash now, but I got a problem 00.09.10 # ok? 00.09.11 # coooool 00.09.14 # what though 00.09.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> at powerup, it gives ATA error -3 00.09.19 # uh oh 00.09.30 # that's not good 00.09.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> But very fast! 00.09.47 # loading? 00.09.53 # hehe 00.09.58 # i'd expect 00.10.03 # very cool 00.10.12 # soon maybe we all can do it! 00.10.19 # wasn't that what you got before you fixed the port settings? 00.10.24 # hey 2k3.. that's just got the rocks plugins 00.10.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> I rarely had that with my UART boot experiments. 00.10.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> No, I had other failures. 00.10.44 # i meant... 00.10.46 # hang on ok 00.10.54 # I'm actually trying to figure out how to create that folder.. (windows won't let me) 00.10.56 # ill get you the link 00.10.59 # werd 00.11.01 # i know 00.11.02 # hang on 00.11.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> Maybe something is not settled. 00.11.07 # msoultan: you can create it from the command line 00.11.09 # it's becasue it has a . in it 00.11.22 # wait wait 00.11.29 # what kind do you have? 00.11.32 # player? recorder? 00.11.58 # recorder 00.12.03 # yeah, the . was the prob 00.12.07 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/download/rockbox-2.0-recorder.zip 00.12.19 # just put the .rockbox folder that's in that zip on the archos 00.12.25 # got it 00.12.29 # it has all the fonts and stuff 00.12.38 # ah 00.12.40 # never mind 00.12.49 # you have to put all those things in the .rockbox folder 00.12.53 # my mistake 00.13.00 # so make it from the command prompt 00.13.20 # then put all the stuff in there, onto the archos' .rockbox folder 00.14.17 # Am i making sense? lol 00.15.41 Quit Stevie[FP] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.15.49 # yeah 00.15.51 # it worked 00.15.59 # yay 00.16.03 # I just unziped it and dropped it in 00.16.18 # good 00.16.19 # I hadn't followed the .rockbox folder development 00.16.25 # and then you get sudtom fonts! 00.16.32 # custom 00.16.33 # :) 00.16.53 # so, now if I save the cfg file, it'll stop resetting the bass and treble, too.. huh? 00.17.09 # now that you have .rockbox 00.17.11 # yeah 00.17.29 # and you can make your own WPS now too if you want 00.17.34 # is custom00.cfg loaded at startup? 00.17.47 # ..not that i know of 00.17.59 # i think it just loads what it was last time but not a specific one 00.18.09 # ohh.. but you just hit play and it loads the settings.. 00.18.16 # so, it's not that bad... 00.18.20 # no 00.18.26 # it wont reset t he settings anymore 00.18.30 # it shouldn't 00.18.30 # it just did 00.18.41 # unless you load different settings 00.18.42 # odd 00.18.46 # It's really wierd, if I don't do an update for a while, it'll reset my bass, treble 00.18.55 # (reset 'em to +6, both) 00.19.05 # and the light, and hard drive timeouts, etc 00.19.09 # never heard of it 00.19.17 # yeah, kinda strange 00.19.26 # I just changed it today after I downloaded the latest update.. 00.19.31 # hadn't updated for a month or so 00.19.44 # if I download every few days, I didn't have the reset 00.20.03 # Zagor, any ideas? 00.20.05 # i have no idea 00.20.51 # msoultan: the settings were forced to reset due to some recent changes 00.21.07 # aha.. 00.21.19 Join Stevie[FreedomPa [0] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) 00.21.23 # bye then all 00.21.28 # it's weird that you reset the bass and treble to +6 00.21.41 # msoultan: those are the defaults 00.21.45 # I think I posted it to the list a long time ago and someone said they like that 00.21.51 # distorts the player.. 00.21.58 # (recorder) 00.22.02 # (during playback) 00.22.06 # you know what I mean. 00.22.10 Quit midknight2k3 ("BYE!!!!!!!!!! BYEBYE!!! SEE YOU LATER!! MISS YOU!!!! BYE!!! BYYYEEEE!!! SEEYA ALL!!! LATER!!!! -=SysReset 2.53=-") 00.23.37 Quit Stevie[FreedomPa (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.25.29 # hey, just curious, does hardeep's playlist patch allow duplicates? 00.28.21 Join Stevie[FreedomPa [0] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) 00.29.12 Nick Stevie[FreedomPa is now known as Stevie[FP] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) 00.30.27 # hey, I think I found a bug.. 00.31.16 # if anyone's interested, if you hold down the up arrow (on the recorder) while it's scrolling up, then tap it a few more times, you get the same menu as pressing f2 00.31.35 # can't exactly repeat it.. but it happens quite often 00.32.13 # anyways, I don't want to sit here and complain about stuff. It's working great for the most part and it's great to be rockin' again. Thanks for all your help! 00.33.27 # that's a hardware problem 00.37.09 Join diddystar5 [0] (diddystar5@AC8E9677.ipt.aol.com) 00.37.17 # hey 00.38.08 # would someone with ssh access add snake to games_menu.c? 00.38.47 # diddystar5: just "PLAY 00.38.52 # er "PLAY" the file 00.39.30 # i know but sometime it should be added to the games menu 00.39.46 # i did in my version 00.39.59 # no. we will make a dynamic rock browser instead 00.40.21 # nice zagor! 00.42.29 # hey hardeep, is there a way to remove a song that's playing from the current (dynamic) playlist? 00.42.55 # sounds like that would be easy i think i *might* would be able to do that myself 00.43.02 # msoultan: not yet... need to add a playlist viewer 00.43.18 # ahhh 00.43.23 # msoultan: the mechanism exists in the dynamic playlist code 00.43.43 # that would be a hot feature.. even a hotkey to pull the song out 00.43.51 # or would that still be linked to the playlist viewer? 00.44.16 # msoultan: i guess we could make a hotkey for deleting current song 00.44.51 # that would be slick. There are times that I'm wondering why the heck I added a song and wanted to pull it out quickly 00.48.18 # bed time 00.48.19 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 00.51.19 Quit mecraw_ ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 00.57.00 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@AC916C96.ipt.aol.com) 00.57.09 # the Snake plugin is cool 00.59.44 # for some reason cygwin is working VERY slow on my puter right now 00.59.55 # :( 01.00.19 # think i need another stick of ram 01.01.04 # i already have 256mb 01.02.41 # i have 640mb 01.02.56 Join ch0ppedl1ver [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inilir.dialup.mindspring.com) 01.03.09 # ohhhh you should be happy :) 01.03.28 # had 128mb stuck in an extra 512 01.03.31 # ok 01.03.33 # im using a notebook right now i'm on vacation 01.03.36 # windows appears to be very confused 01.04.05 # cuz it says that my ethernet adapter is disconnected from the network 01.04.23 # except my presence here is rather firm evidence to the contrary 01.06.45 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 01.06.46 Quit msoultan (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.07.04 # msoultan: did you have a hotkey in mind? 01.08.12 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 01.10.13 # i get the error make[2]: *** [all] Error 255 while making the plugins 01.10.20 # any ideas to fix it 01.10.35 # the plugins still get compiled though 01.11.11 # diddystar5: does it say any more than that? 01.12.24 # no right after generating object code for wormlet, it gives me the error then goes to linking 01.13.45 # what size are the generated .rock files? 01.15.10 # they appear to be normal wormlet = 7.42 kb tetris = 10.3 kb 01.15.34 Quit ch0ppedl1ver (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.15.38 # they all play, i just tried them 01.15.46 Join ch0ppedl1ver [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inilir.dialup.mindspring.com) 01.16.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hey, it's working! 01.16.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> (you don't know what?) 01.17.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> Rockbox is in Flash! 01.17.24 # ohhhh cool!!!!!!!!! 01.17.24 # really? 01.17.24 # [IDC]Dragon: awesome! 01.17.27 # dude 01.17.30 # give me the memory dumps 01.17.44 # ! 01.17.47 # i don't know much about your work do ya gotta do mods? 01.17.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> I had to add some code which waits for the disk to be ready. 01.18.05 # hmm, that makes sense 01.18.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> This was a new situation for Rockbox ;-) 01.18.21 # lol 01.18.26 # we're always waiting for the damn disk to be ready! 01.18.47 # * ch0ppedl1ver looks at the pnp stuph 01.18.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> It takes about 3 seconds from pressing the power button 'til the music resumes. 01.19.01 # three seconds? lmao 01.19.09 # the original archos firmware takes like 30 seconds just to boot 01.19.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> Not bad compared to about 18 before? 01.19.17 # cool 01.19.35 # * diddystar5 is excited 01.20.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> I have to check on how I can record a video clip with my webcam. 01.21.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> Diddy, right now I had to make a mod, to be able to use the UART boot feature of the ROM. 01.21.38 # ok i see 01.21.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> This allows to inject code before the flash is touched. 01.22.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> So I can reprogram even if the flash is completely screwed up. 01.22.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> When the thing is stable, Rockbox will get a menu option to flash itself. 01.23.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> But first we need some confidence. 01.23.17 # just a leetle beet 01.23.38 # actually, hmmmm 01.23.43 # so archos firmware we be GONE from my archos :) 01.23.51 # how can rockbox know 01.24.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes, mine hasn't got a byte left of it. 01.24.06 # which ajz file was used? 01.24.16 # yeah!!! 01.24.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> Currently, there is no ajz loading on startup, you already have rockbox. 01.24.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> But you can use rolo later on. 01.26.12 # do you have to add code like for charging? when you plug in the power when it is off 01.27.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> Probably. Right now it goes on when you plug in. 01.27.42 # someone shoud make a mod for removing "Jukebox" on the front of the thing and put "Rockbox on it" ;) 01.28.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> Just found: I cannot power it off when the charger is plugged. 01.30.11 # my dumb questions are good for something 01.31.18 # the charger power floods out the FET 01.32.29 # i need to go to a programming class about all i go do on my own is make a dumb little "toy" program 01.33.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> This flashing business in fact raises a lot of question I'm walking around with since a while. 01.33.23 # the problem is i'm only 13 01.33.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> It's all about how I can make this foolproof. 01.34.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> I definitely want people to flash the latest bleeding edge build. 01.34.19 # err 01.34.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> Or a file for the wrong platform. 01.34.25 # why? 01.34.28 # oh 01.34.31 # i think you missed a 'not' 01.35.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> If you goof, only the UART boot mod can get you out again. And that needs the serial mod, too. 01.35.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> Not bleeding edge, yes. 01.35.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> If flashing goes wrong, you can seriously lock the box. 01.36.07 # then we can call it LockBox 01.36.09 # people want be happy with that you have to take the boards apart :( 01.36.20 # ;) 01.37.33 # [IDC]Dragon 01.37.43 # do you have it able to boot an .ajz file on the hd? 01.38.27 # <[IDC]Dragon> Using rolo from the browser, yes. Or what do you mean? 01.39.22 # [IDC]Dragon: since you're writing the flash utility anyways, you could just add a couple of checks before flashing to make sure the firmware is valid 01.39.35 # a model check is pretty easy and maybe define a "flashable" flag 01.40.32 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes. I was thinking about using an unused exception vector as a target ID. 01.40.56 # <[IDC]Dragon> We have Player, Recorder, FM, and all that with 2 and 8 MB. 01.41.28 # [IDC]Dragon: how many years have you been programming 01.41.32 # ? 01.41.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> 10 01.41.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> professionally, I mean. Else 20. 01.42.55 # cool 01.43.14 # <[IDC]Dragon> The flash thing in fact is easy, the difficult part was developing this UART boot toolchain. 01.43.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> I have disassembled the boot ROM to find that. 01.46.12 # [IDC]Dragon: do you have it automatically ROLO the proper .ajz file on bootup? or do you have to do it manually atm? 01.46.41 # just curious what tools(s) did you use to dissasemble? 01.48.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> ch0pped: What do you mean with your rolo business? Rockbox is in the flash, no need to rolo right away. 01.48.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> diddy: in the tools directory is a disassembler. 01.49.32 # o fergot about that "descramble" 01.51.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.51.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> First there's a little boot loader in the flash, that gets descrambled by the boot ROM. But this is only 56 bytes and containes a loop which then plain copys rockbox from flash to RAM. 01.52.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> This saves some time, no need to descramble the big image. 01.53.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> So we have more time to wait for the disk ;-) 01.56.21 # [IDC]Dragon: if it takes less time 01.56.42 # which it might, because we can theoretically create a new type of image that doesn't have to be descrambled 01.57.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes, I thought about that, too. 01.57.26 # then it might be reasonable to have a bootloader in flash designated 'safe' 01.57.59 # that simply auto-ROLOs a boot image 01.58.45 # this means it would take more than 3 seconds to resume after power-on 01.58.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'd prefer to have the version I want in flash ;-) 01.58.58 # but if the extra time is negligible 01.59.02 # that may be an option 01.59.09 # but as you pointed out 01.59.24 # gotta go 01.59.24 # we don't want Joe Schmoe to accidentally trash his flash with a bleeding edge build 01.59.33 Part diddystar5 ("Client exiting") 02.02.36 # have i ever mentioned 02.02.40 # that pnp is a bitch 02.07.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> Time to say goodnight! 02.08.13 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 02.31.09 Join telliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 02.34.29 # Anyone know of a good Windows program that will allow selecting multiple files for moving, deleting without holding ctrl or shift to keep multiple files selected? 02.34.46 # why? is that too difficult for ye? 02.35.43 # I just don't want to lose the selection while I evaluate files to delete on my full Archos. 02.59.55 # so open two windows 03.00.00 # keep the selection in one 03.00.11 # do your evaluation from the other 03.02.06 Part telliott 03.08.54 Quit thu ("Client exiting") 03.19.19 Quit ch0ppedl1ver ("Somebody just shoot me.") 03.27.41 Join ch0ppedl1ver [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inimoi.dialup.mindspring.com) 03.51.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.17.36 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: its not your ordinary stick of gum") 04.26.10 Quit ch0ppedl1ver (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04.27.48 Join ch0ppedl1ver [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inin3t.dialup.mindspring.com) 04.31.44 Nick ch0ppedl1ver is now known as Stevie-O (whatsit2u@user-2inin3t.dialup.mindspring.com) 04.31.50 Nick Stevie-O is now known as OliverKlozoff (whatsit2u@user-2inin3t.dialup.mindspring.com) 04.43.10 Quit OliverKlozoff (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 04.45.00 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 04.47.08 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-138-88-169-239.res.east.verizon.net) 04.47.24 # How are you gentlemen !! 04.51.41 Quit thu ("reboot") 05.34.00 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection) 05.35.18 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-138-88-169-239.res.east.verizon.net) 05.51.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.51.50 Join Stevie-O [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inin02.dialup.mindspring.com) 05.52.20 # phj33r m3 05.54.38 # You are on your way to destruction make your time. 05.56.02 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 05.57.02 # how's emusic? 06.09.49 # still dead 06.09.52 # no reply from them 06.10.09 # if tomorrow I don't hear from them I cancel the account and never wanna hear of them again 06.10.12 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-24.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 06.14.25 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 06.18.15 # * Stevie-O yawns 06.33.07 # i love rpgworld 06.33.20 # 'what are we gonna run to in this cave?' 06.33.25 # 'bats?' 06.33.45 # 'no, more like underground octopus! underground monkey! and underground bird!' 09.53.23 *** Started Dancer V4.16p1 09.53.23 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.53.23 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.53.23 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.53.23 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.53.23 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.53.23 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.53.23 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.53.23 DEBUG gethostbyname(2) failed for irc.eu.openprojects.net (No such file or directory) 09.53.23 *** Unable to connect to irc.eu.openprojects.net on port 6667 (tried 8 times) 09.53.23 *** Cleanup 09.53.23 *** Connected to irc.freenode.net on port 6667 09.53.23 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 09.53.52 *** Server message 501: 'logbot :Unknown MODE flag' 09.53.52 Mode "logbot :+i" by logbot 09.53.53 Join logbot [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 09.53.53 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 09.53.53 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 09.53.53 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-24.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 09.53.53 Join Stevie[FP] [0] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) 09.53.53 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-77-11.reverse.qsc.de) 09.53.53 Join Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 09.53.53 Join jandaman [0] (~jandaman@bsiv46dy25zj.bc.hsia.telus.net) 09.53.53 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 09.53.53 Join Kinslayer [0] (dragon@wastelands.net) 09.53.53 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 09.53.53 Join dwihno [0] (~Mongo@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 09.53.53 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 09.53.53 Join ricII [0] (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) 09.53.53 Join PsycoXul [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-241.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 09.53.53 Join Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 09.53.53 Join MT [0] (mt@fido.impulsed.net) 10.02.11 >>> "seen" used by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) [snoop prevented] 10.02.23 Quit midknight2k3 ("-=SysReset 2.53=-") 11.53.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.02.29 Join janda|afk [0] (~jandaman@bsiv46dy25zj.bc.hsia.telus.net) 12.14.36 Quit jandaman (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.16.06 Quit adi|home (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 13.16.06 NSplit sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 13.16.18 NHeal sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 13.16.18 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-24.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 13.33.57 Quit janda|afk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13.52.27 # HOORAY! We got boot from flash! 13.53.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.21.48 Join jandaman [0] (~jandaman@bsiv46dy25zj.bc.hsia.telus.net) 15.53.28 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 16.08.15 Quit Stevie[FP] (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.14.36 Join Quelsaruk [20] (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) 16.14.44 # morning 16.16.47 Quit jandaman (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 16.21.55 Join jandaman [0] (~jandaman@bsiv46dy25zj.bc.hsia.telus.net) 16.24.28 Join diddystar5 [0] (diddystar5@AC9263F4.ipt.aol.com) 16.37.28 # Quelsaruk: sure 16.38.29 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (~Mongo@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 16.39.42 # a new version of dutch language file has been commited to the patch tracker 16.39.57 # but i cannot access cvs or commit changes to it right now 16.40.40 # would you mind commiting the new file? 16.41.45 # Sure... do I need to verify it first? 16.42.01 # ummm 16.42.06 # just binlang it 16.42.07 # :) 16.42.21 # but you wont get any errors 16.42.38 # but check it just in case zagor wants to kill someone 16.42.45 # hehe 16.43.22 # "String for LANG_STOP_ABORT misses quotes"... hehe, guess there are some errors... i'll fix and commit 16.43.39 # jummss... 16.44.03 # ups, sorry. i thought it had no errors 16.44.38 # first quote 16.44.44 # yeah 16.44.48 # it's a ' and not a " 16.44.53 # :) 16.45.08 # is it alright that the strings are not the same order as english.lang? 16.45.16 # no errors reported but it seems strange 16.45.29 # i asked that once, but seems that there's no problem 16.45.46 # the only file that has to maintain the order is english.lang 16.45.57 # okay, cool 16.46.44 # that was what bagder told me 16.47.22 # that makes sense 16.47.33 # okay, change committed 16.49.00 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@AC8AFD94.ipt.aol.com) 16.49.07 # afternoon 16.49.14 # hey tracktheripper 16.49.14 # thx 16.49.27 # closed the patch at the patch tracker? 16.51.17 # Quelsaruk: i don't have SF permissions 16.51.33 # ok, i'll close it then 16.51.35 # :) 16.53.37 Quit tracktheripper (Client Quit) 16.54.21 # thx hardeep 16.54.46 # np 16.55.18 # hardeep is the man! thanks for the source :) 16.56.05 # :) 17.06.05 # is the ID3 tag editor to big to be a plugin? 17.06.13 # dunno 17.06.32 # i'm gonna give it a try 17.06.33 # the id3 tag editor should be a plugin 17.10.40 # uhh that may not work very well :( 17.11.50 # my skills are not good enough for that you have to completely change the patch 17.12.30 # :) 17.12.34 # well.. not me 17.13.31 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.19.07 Join diddystar5_ [0] (diddystar5@ACA69225.ipt.aol.com) 17.19.07 Quit diddystar5 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.19.20 # hey mecraw 17.21.14 Join Lynx0 [0] (Lynx@134.95.189.59) 17.21.49 # mecraw_: is your name really Lee? 17.26.14 Nick mecraw_ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.26.30 # diddystar5_: yes 17.26.52 # mecraw: cool mine too 17.30.31 Join joshn [0] (jirc@204.251.225.128) 17.45.28 # How accurate can I expect the battery time left indicator to be, if I just play music? 17.46.19 # fairly accurate 17.46.45 # if you leave the backlight on and stuff it will way off 17.46.50 # *be 17.49.15 # Seems to me i only have like half the time left. But I haven't really timed it. 17.50.37 # have you set the baterry capacity in system settings? 17.52.09 # has anyone done the led mod ( http://www.mctubster.com/led.html ) for the recorder? 17.52.57 # looks like it would be very easy since the light on are open right after you take the front thingy off 17.53.24 # *leds are open 17.53.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.54.01 # i haven't done it 17.54.44 # i bet blue would look nice 17.56.20 # Orange is not bad either, a few cellphones have orange or blue display lights 17.56.56 # i'd prefer red ones, but you can't use red leds easely, no? 17.57.19 Quit joshn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.57.28 # not sure 17.57.47 # i might go to radioshackand get a few leds and give it a try 18.00.36 # blue: http://www.geocities.com/safe-community/archos.html 18.00.42 # the led mod is incredibley difficult 18.00.50 # it requires very good soldering skills 18.03.58 # that looks cool 18.04.47 # sure go for it if you want 18.05.10 # all im saying is that its not in the slightest bit easy, and requires incredibley good soldering skills 18.05.18 # those leds are tiny 18.05.54 # hehe im very scary with a soldering iron ;) need to find a old motherboard or somethin and practice 18.09.30 # gotta go lunch time :) 18.09.37 Part diddystar5_ ("Client exiting") 18.14.09 Join joshn [0] (jirc@204.251.225.128) 18.17.51 Quit joshn (Client Quit) 18.37.11 Part Lynx0 18.39.42 # jumms 18.42.40 Join o2h5d8c6j [0] (Lynx@134.95.189.59) 18.43.58 Part o2h5d8c6j 18.44.13 Join Lynx0 [0] (Lynx@134.95.189.59) 18.46.39 Join joshn [0] (jirc@204.251.225.128) 18.48.50 Quit joshn (Client Quit) 18.49.23 Join joshn [0] (jirc@204.251.225.128) 18.53.26 # cu later 18.53.28 Quit Quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 18.55.24 Quit joshn ("Leaving") 19.13.06 Join maleemi [0] (~jirc@pcp01476735pcs.nholnd01.pa.comcast.net) 19.15.25 # I just installed rockbox on my recorder 20 and when I start it up the screen in very dark, almost black. I can barely, barely read the menus because of the dark background. Anyone have any suggestions? 19.17.17 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 19.17.38 # nobody is here 19.18.17 Quit maleemi ("Leaving") 19.53.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.54.56 Join Quelsaruk [20] (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) 19.55.01 # re 19.55.09 # ? 19.55.10 # hey 19.55.47 # :) 19.55.55 # what's "re" 19.55.59 # re-hi 19.56.03 # hi 19.56.31 # when you do something again, you "re"-do it 19.57.17 # yeah 19.57.23 # but i got here like a half hour ago 19.57.31 # so it wasn't exactly re hi 19.57.38 # ahh whatever :) 19.58.09 # :) 20.13.32 Join PhantomDJP [0] (~JP@ASte-Genev-Bois-112-1-9-87.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.13.45 # hi ! 20.13.51 # hey 20.14.21 # hum... 20.14.29 # ? 20.14.35 # I thing I will be hate but... 20.14.44 # go on 20.14.45 # is there a reslease of Rombox ? 20.14.51 # not net 20.15.03 # if you mean a program to put rockbox in flash, not yet but soon 20.15.20 # and is there any plug ins other than defaults ones ? 20.15.21 # rockbox was officially put in flash yesterday 20.15.28 # not yet i dont think 20.15.38 # download a new rocks package 20.15.44 # it has a few new ones i think 20.16.04 # I ve the "rock.zip" 20.16.10 # yeah 20.16.12 # but each new "games" 20.16.14 # check the new one 20.16.19 # mm hmm 20.16.25 # that's mainly it now 20.16.30 # was already in my private version 20.16.31 # :D 20.16.44 # soon people will make calendars, calculators, applications, id3 editors, etc 20.16.54 # soon 20.16.59 # you must wait till soon 20.17.01 # hum..it 's a big step for Rockbox 20.17.04 # game boy emulator... 20.17.04 # very 20.17.09 # LOL 20.17.12 # hah 20.17.22 # Quelsaruk what joker you are... 20.17.27 # ummm 20.17.33 # What A joker you are 20.17.35 # the chip 8 could be a good thing to start :D 20.17.36 # maybe it's not *really* a joke 20.17.47 # or maybe yes.. 20.17.47 # (sorry for the A) 20.17.50 # haha qulsaruk 20.17.55 # oops 20.18.01 # :) 20.18.02 # np phanton 20.18.08 # I m french :D 20.18.25 # so sometimes... 20.18.26 # when will the plugin loader appear in the official releases? 20.18.39 # uhm 20.18.43 # dailybuilds? 20.18.47 # always 20.18.47 # normaly it was for the 2.3 20.18.55 # that's what they planned 20.19.04 # but i suppose the went to work early :) 20.19.10 # but now...in the next :D 20.19.14 # next one is 2.1 i guess 20.19.29 # and that should be anytime within a decade :D 20.19.45 # the plug in loader was really important since lastest build was too big 20.19.52 # yeah 20.19.57 # were 20.20.00 # on february i heard something about a gameboy emulator.. 20.20.08 # that is impossible 20.20.10 # now they can add more other stuff to rockbox while getting rid of the games and demos from build-in 20.20.11 # no, i meant a bug-free official release, like 2.1 20.20.15 # fully impossible 20.20.20 # in 2.1! 20.20.24 # how? 20.20.44 # how is it impossible 20.20.49 # ¿? 20.20.57 # a gameboy emulator 20.21.06 # it is impossible 20.21.14 # all right whatever you say 20.21.14 #>> "seen" used by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) [snoop prevented] 20.21.16 # you know what 20.21.23 # first : 20.21.28 # Lynx0: official releases are rarely "bug-free" 20.21.30 # screen size 20.21.39 # right now i feel like learning how to code and making an emulator for gameboy to prove him WRONG. 20.21.45 # well 20.21.47 # then, not enougt CPU power 20.21.52 # the chip8 one had too small a screen too 20.21.56 # ALL RIGHT OKAY 20.21.59 # OKAY 20.22.01 # no more 20.22.03 # please? 20.22.04 # thene not enought ram 20.22.06 # :D 20.22.07 # shhhh! 20.22.10 # ok. 20.22.11 # ok I stop 20.22.16 # thank god 20.22.34 # hardeep: well, i guess more so than the daily builds 20.22.51 # :P 20.26.36 Part Lynx0 20.28.09 Part PhantomDJP 20.28.32 # Lynx0: perhaps... the daily builds have been pretty stable for quite some time 20.28.39 # heh 20.28.43 # he hleft 20.28.49 # oh, doh 20.28.59 # i agree though 20.29.16 # with all thats going on i cant see why people still use rockbox 1.4 and 2.0 20.34.02 # i always used bleeding edge 20.34.03 # :) 20.34.08 # yeah 20.34.24 # since the first day i knew about rockbox... 20.34.29 # even if you need a stable release 20.34.30 # nearly 1 year ago 20.34.34 # :) 20.34.36 # why 1.4? 20.34.44 # people is strange... 20.34.54 # all these people on the mailing list: "im using rockbox 1.4 and my sound is crappy!" 20.34.55 # ..umm... are 20.34.58 # heh 20.35.15 # i understand using 2.0 20.35.29 # yeh 20.35.35 # but not 1.4 20.35.46 # if you are a disaster with computers and so on... 20.35.52 # because we have a manual for 2.0 20.35.55 # but... 1.4?? 20.35.56 # yes 20.35.59 # i know! 20.35.59 # without manual? 20.36.07 # thats weird 20.36.10 # 1.4 -> 2.0 is a biiiig step 20.36.13 # much more nice things 20.36.19 # but still 20.36.25 # i guess people disagree 20.36.30 # they like primitive rockbox 20.37.42 # i don't understand why 20.37.47 # neither i 20.37.58 # dont use the advanced features if you absolutely can't 20.38.01 # but still 20.38.02 # every day rockbox is cooler and better 20.38.06 # yeah 20.38.16 # 1.4 is what like 9 months old 20.38.19 # handles things in a better way 20.38.24 # AND 20.38.30 # they shall be forced to grab 2.1 20.38.31 # delete some minor bugs... 20.38.32 # haha 20.38.41 # because plugin loader 20.38.48 # still some will say though "i dont want it!" 20.42.23 # that's their problem 20.42.25 # :) 20.42.39 # I "gu-ess" 20.43.20 # i really need rombox 20.43.25 # why? 20.43.37 # ... 20.43.39 # :D 20.43.43 # lol 20.43.50 # something strange with my hd 20.44.19 # fmrec? 20.44.41 # fm recorder? 20.44.56 Quit Quelsaruk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.45.02 Join Quelsaruk [20] (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) 20.45.05 # re--- 20.45.06 # gr 20.45.07 # :) 20.45.12 # heh 20.45.12 # what was i saying? 20.45.19 # do you have an fm recordeR? 20.45.22 # nop 20.45.24 # a recorder 20.45.27 # recorder 6 20.45.27 # hd problems 20.45.31 # recorder 20.45.33 # 6? 20.45.35 # 6gb? 20.45.37 # e GB 20.45.40 # yups 20.45.43 # they make recorder 6 gb? 20.45.50 # wow 20.45.51 # that was the original recorder 20.45.53 # whats wrong with it 20.46.20 # it can't spin up when pluged to any computer (phisical error) 20.46.32 # odd 20.46.37 # it must be years old too 20.46.39 # but even if it sounds weird.. 20.46.54 # it can spin up when i power my archos on 20.47.07 # if it dies get an fm recorder! 20.47.35 # and then i can play nearly every song (except those affected with the phisical error), record music... 20.47.38 # everything 20.47.43 # very odd 20.47.47 # i know 20.47.49 # really strange 20.48.25 # the problem is that i don't have a rockbox firmware version on the disk... 20.48.35 # ?? 20.48.42 # so i have to use archos 1.15m firmware 20.48.43 # you don't? 20.48.50 # hahahahahah! 20.49.00 # you said you use bleeding edges 20.49.02 # i formated the disk.. and copied all my music 20.49.26 # and when finishing the restoration.. it died 20.49.42 # midknight2k3: i said i *used* bleeding edge 20.49.42 # ODD 20.49.43 # very 20.49.46 # haha 20.49.49 # lol 20.49.59 # you cant try the plugin loder now? 20.50.00 # that's why i NEED rombox 20.50.07 # unh 20.50.07 # i can't try anything 20.50.20 # if you cant put rombox on the archos how will you get it to work? 20.50.26 # i have a dead 30GB hd.. and an old 6 GB hd... 20.50.37 # dead 30gb? 20.50.38 # I want it! 20.50.43 # and nearly 25 GB of music 20.50.49 # you know what 20.50.54 # what? 20.51.02 # if it dies get an fm recorder 20.52.01 # i don't think so 20.52.05 # i love my recorder.. 20.52.08 # maybe a recorder 20 20.52.14 # i don't listen to the radio 20.52.15 # the fm recorder is the same 20.52.19 # its better 20.52.25 # litium batts?? 20.52.25 # and aboutt he same price 20.52.30 # no thanks... 20.52.30 # its lighter 20.52.34 # ok whatever 20.52.34 # umm 20.52.42 # my music is all heavy metal.. 20.52.48 # the jukebox has to be heavy 20.52.49 # i got an idea 20.53.03 # my new review 20.53.05 # done last night 20.53.08 # on the fm recorde 20.53.10 # r 20.53.13 # anyway.. if it's heavy.. it's also a weapon :) 20.53.22 # lol 20.53.23 # http://www.epinions.com/content_104923762308 20.53.55 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 20.53.59 # thu 20.54.01 # response yet? 20.54.33 # nope 20.54.42 # emusic tards - sometime soon maybe! 20.56.01 # they should have a phone # or somethign 20.56.07 # hahahha 20.56.09 # or one of those live online support chats 20.56.23 # did you ever... 20.56.33 # think that perhaps its just not workin with lin-ics? 20.57.13 # loool 20.57.15 # check out the forums 20.57.18 # I'm not alone 20.57.19 # time to go home 20.57.23 # aww 20.57.23 # http://msg.emusic.com/emusic/liststory/?topic_id=2209&month=200307&category_id=17012 20.57.25 # bye 20.57.40 # cu tomorrow 20.57.45 # bye 20.57.51 # fm recorder 4 life 20.57.53 # :D 20.58.08 # hehe 20.58.52 # i just need to get some money and buy a new 60GB hd 20.58.58 # lol 20.59.05 # al righty then 20.59.10 # and my recorder6 will rock again 20.59.12 # ;) 20.59.12 # http://msg.emusic.com/emusic/liststory/?topic_id=1680&month=200306 20.59.16 # yeah! 20.59.17 # wooo! 20.59.33 # until then.. i will steal my brother's recorder 20 20.59.35 # :D 20.59.38 # :0 20.59.41 # dont you dare 20.59.48 # does he rockbox? 20.59.57 # use rockbox? 20.59.59 # of course 21.00.02 # AND YOU CAN'T HAHAHAHA 21.00.17 # hey 21.00.23 # can i have the 6gb one thats in there 21.00.26 # when you replace it? 21.00.31 # no way! 21.00.34 # ?? 21.00.35 # i use it 21.00.36 # :) 21.00.37 # why nootttt 21.00.39 # for? 21.00.41 # its busted! 21.00.46 # nonono 21.00.51 # i thought... 21.00.51 # the 3GB hd is busted 21.00.53 # 30 21.00.55 # 3gb? 21.00.56 # what ahhaa 21.00.59 # 30 21.01.02 # ok 21.01.04 # that one will do 21.01.07 # you can ship it to... 21.01.09 # lets see 21.01.20 # umm 21.01.22 # and you can pay for postage 21.01.26 # :P 21.01.28 # you have my permission 21.01.34 # ship it to 13 maple street 21.02.08 # my 30GB hd will leave my archos just when it can't even make some nasty noise while trying to spin up 21.02.17 # wait.. 21.02.18 # wait 21.02.23 # you have a 30gb in the archos? 21.02.39 # ¬_¬ 21.02.42 # wow 21.02.48 # how do you do that 21.02.50 # i will try to explain myself again.. 21.02.51 # -_- 21.02.59 # lol 21.03.03 # thats the best face ever 21.03.05 # what you did 21.03.17 # thx 21.03.27 # i bought a recorder6 nearly 2 years ago 21.03.35 # well... exactly 21.03.41 # lol 21.03.43 # in 4 days.. it will have 2 years 21.03.48 # yay 21.03.57 # one year ago i bought a 30GB hd 21.04.10 # disassembled the jukebox and changed the drive 21.04.27 # 1 month ago.. maybe 2... this 30GB HD died... 21.04.31 # more or less 21.05.00 # CRAP 21.05.05 # i shot the jellyfish 21.05.07 # i use the 6GB hd in a external case 21.05.07 # go on.. 21.05.11 # yes 21.05.30 # and the 30 GB hd with all my music, on the jukebox, with archos 1.15m firmware 21.05.38 # aha 21.05.40 # and that's why i need rombox 21.05.42 # so uh 21.05.45 # but 21.05.53 # IF YOU CANT PLUG THE ARCHOS INTO THE COMPUTER 21.05.59 # HOW WILL ROMBOX DO IT'S MAGIC? 21.06.04 # 'cause i can use the 6GB hd but... that's to few music 21.06.10 # ah! 21.06.15 # 6gb to get it on there 21.06.19 # ;) 21.06.20 # then 30gb to stay 21.06.21 # aha 21.06.24 # smart you 21.06.25 # yes 21.06.26 # yaaay 21.06.28 # :) 21.06.32 # my emusic dlm is working 21.06.32 # :DDDDDDD 21.06.35 #>> "explain Quelsaruk" by Quelsaruk (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) 21.06.35 # really 21.06.36 # haha 21.06.39 # @Q$#@#$ emusic and their crappy client 21.06.47 # coool 21.06.54 # thanks to the guys on the forums 21.06.55 # logbot: explain midknight2k3 21.06.55 # midknight2k3: even logbot know me :) 21.06.59 # who seem to be as unhappy as I am 21.07.01 # make him say what i am 21.07.11 # umm 21.07.15 # DO IT 21.07.17 # NOW! 21.07.25 # O_o 21.07.27 >>> "explain midknight2k3" by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.07.30 # WHAT 21.07.34 # * thu jumps up and down 21.07.39 # he says "shrug i dont know" 21.07.45 # how can i explain myself to him 21.08.02 # and wait 21.08.07 # someone with access has to add you in his database 21.08.14 # why does he answer for many people but i have to message him to make it say that 21.08.31 # you just say it in the open and i have to /msg logbot 21.08.55 # because i'm autorised 21.09.02 # how can i be? 21.09.09 # you dont even use rockbox! 21.09.12 # what a jip! 21.09.18 # grrrrr 21.09.54 # strange guys.. 21.10.11 # but really 21.10.17 # you dont code and you dont use it......... 21.10.18 # do you/ 21.19.07 # hmm it actually works fast 21.19.36 Join Lynx0 [0] (user5389@dial-195-14-226-14.netcologne.de) 21.19.56 # huh 21.19.59 # sound good 21.20.08 # bebackinaminuteorfive 21.24.15 # im back 21.24.19 # wb 21.24.19 # "wb", right? 21.24.21 # GRRRr 21.24.24 # GERR!!!!!!!! 21.24.27 # oh god. 21.24.33 # 152M /morespace/muzica/emusic 21.24.40 # ???????????????? 21.24.43 # mining emusic works according to plan 21.24.51 # I already have 152M of stuff 21.24.51 # yes 21.24.54 # neat 21.24.56 # very neat 21.27.36 # gr 21.28.28 # wanna see my fmrecorder review/ 21.29.43 # lol more of your rockbox/archos propaganda? 21.29.50 # sort of 21.29.51 # not really 21.30.05 # some blather about the fmrecorder's features - a review 21.30.25 # here 21.30.29 # i use tinyurl 21.30.29 # http://tinyurl.com/fyyc 21.32.26 # yah 21.34.34 # i have a pirated copy of premiere to install! up up and awayy! 21.36.06 # I'm on the phone with adobe 21.36.12 # what? 21.36.14 # SHUTUP 21.36.17 # nonono 21.36.20 # they told me to ask for your address 21.36.22 # i didn't mean it 21.36.24 # uh 21.36.25 # where exactly in seattle? 21.36.29 # it's 13 maple street 21.36.31 # yeah 21.36.35 # 15 maple street 21.36.36 # arg 21.36.43 # i mean 13 maple ave 21.36.47 # uhh 21.36.50 # 13 maple stret 21.36.53 # steert 21.36.55 # STREET 21.36.57 # Do you know who is responsible for the german language file? 21.37.01 # not i 21.37.07 # lots of people do it 21.37.25 # ok.. they'll be there in 30 mins 21.37.32 # good 21.37.38 Quit Quelsaruk (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21.40.02 Quit midknight2k3 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 21.42.41 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.42.45 # yoyyo 21.44.18 # premiere! cool 21.50.56 # hello? 21.51.04 # yah 21.51.10 # aren't they there yet? 21.51.22 # nope 21.51.30 # but if they do arrive i shall sy 21.51.31 # say 21.51.38 # "premiere is fscking gay" 21.51.48 # vegas 4 rocks 21.52.07 # vegas 4 is the ultimate video editor 21.52.11 # so they won't simply fine you 21.52.15 # they'll also kick your ass 21.52.17 # oops 21.52.24 # its true though 21.52.28 # so the can't can they? 21.53.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.53.38 # premiere is nuts 21.53.46 # vegas is the ultra c00l 21.55.21 # is there a way to load a config file into the editor? 21.55.29 # ? 21.55.33 # editor? 21.55.37 # you mean edit it? 21.56.23 # Downloads Remaining in Trial: 1 21.56.35 # still time to cancel :P 21.56.36 # lol 21.56.45 # are you gonna? 21.56.51 # naah 21.56.57 # umm, ok, i mean is there a way to save the current config to a file without typing in the name again? 21.57.00 # music is good 21.57.28 # i dont think so 21.57.32 # just save it 21.57.44 # ok 22.03.36 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD95128A8.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.06.38 Join _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-12-244.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.06.40 # rombox working good? 22.06.43 # dragon? 22.06.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes? 22.06.51 # <_aLF> hi 22.06.59 # is it coming along welhello 22.07.03 # oops lol 22.07.10 # is it coming along well? 22.07.13 # hello alf 22.07.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm working on the autostart-rolo right now. 22.07.26 # yay 22.08.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> Any of the developers around, familiar with the USB driver? 22.08.41 # not i 22.11.39 # what does it do? 22.12.12 # rombox? 22.13.01 # it puts rockbox on the flash chip in the archos to decrease loading times 22.17.55 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 22.20.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hi Björn! 22.20.21 # just who he wanted to see 22.20.27 # hi 22.20.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> I need a clean way to find out that USB is plugged during init() 22.20.40 # hello bj.. i cant do that o 22.20.41 # congrats on your success 22.20.43 # hi Zagor 22.21.01 # oooh, that's tricky 22.21.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> II've seen, since the USB thread is not ticking yet. 22.21.50 # i know we used to check the bit and assume, since we're running, that the state of the bit means "usb disabled" :-) 22.22.03 # checking the code... 22.22.49 # yeah, that's changed. see firmware/usb.c:230 22.23.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> There's usb_inserted(), but that only reports plugged after having been ticked 3 times and reporting that successfully to all threads. 22.24.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> I need something I can query after usb_init() usb_start_monitoring(). 22.24.16 # ah, i see. you mean you want it from the current api. 22.24.56 # well, break out the detection code from usb_tick() into a separate function, and export it 22.25.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> Didn't dare that. 22.25.31 # you have my blessing ;) 22.25.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> After having messed up mpeg.c for the player a few days ago... 22.26.00 # hehe. we all make mistakes... 22.26.39 # i recommend: bool usb_detect(void) 22.27.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> OK, I'll start that. usb_inserted() should still report what's been told to the threads, right? 22.27.20 # yes, leave that unmodified 22.27.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> Shure. 22.33.36 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@AC86A335.ipt.aol.com) 22.33.49 # evening room 22.33.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> Next synchronous problem: adc_read() also returns values retrieved in the background, therefore is not available right away. 22.34.39 # hi zagor 22.35.01 # is there a problem starting the kernel before checking these things? 22.35.04 # hi track 22.35.15 # how are ya dude? 22.35.26 # hey 22.35.44 # hi 22.35.51 # im just installing Soundforge now 22.36.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> No, the kernel is started. But the init function keeps on running, instead I would have to block it for a couple of ticks or be also asynchronous. 22.36.08 # i just installed premiere 22.36.10 # its' gay 22.36.13 # :-) 22.36.22 # vegas is much better 22.36.45 # Is the architecture of the Archos really "open ended" judging by the number of things it can do via plugins and Rockbox 22.37.12 # yeah 22.37.31 # if the cpu can handle it and the screen can display it it can basically do anything 22.37.35 # you try doing all that on another MP3 device 22.37.39 # yeah 22.37.53 # ok could it write basic .txt files via the built-in keyboard? 22.37.58 # yes 22.38.01 # i think 22.38.02 # lol 22.38.07 # im pretty sure 22.38.25 # dragon: how many ticks are we talking about, roughly? 22.38.44 # Zagor could the Archos write basic .txt files using the built-in keyboard? 22.38.55 # tracktheripper: yes 22.39.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> I think about two or so. But will main() get preempted? 22.39.27 # :-) 22.39.37 # dragon: sure it will, if we call sleep() :-) 22.39.38 # looking forward to see the plug-in for that :-) 22.40.19 # tracktheripper: well, first someone has to write it 22.40.24 # yea i know 22.40.28 # you can track! 22.40.31 # show me the ropes and Ill write it 22.40.31 # :-) 22.41.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> OK, i will exeriment with sleeping in init() to let the values settle. tick freq is 100Hz? 22.41.45 # dragon: yes. use the HZ macro to specify fractions of a second instead of exact tick counts 22.42.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yeah, I've used that. 22.42.13 # ok 22.43.21 # Zagor can the FM recorder output data via its spdif like the normal Recorder? 22.44.06 # i don't know 22.44.38 # i know the normal Recorder can 22.44.46 # yes 22.45.00 # and so it came to pass that I've confirmed my subscription 22.45.10 # yes! woohoo! go thu! 22.45.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> I think there's a flaw in the USB detect debouncing. 22.46.23 # tracktheripper: "The FM Recorder does have a digital in but no digital out." (Archos' own words) 22.46.48 # thu: subscription? 22.46.53 # Zagor: emusic.com 22.46.58 # ah 22.47.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> The tick function checks for the same state 3 times in a row, but the ADC tick updates only one channel per tick. 22.47.11 # haha 22.48.04 # Zagor where did those Archos words come from? their website? (if u can show me the link that will be handy 22.48.25 # no, a mail. http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-04/0790.shtml 22.50.00 # hang on 22.50.24 # cheers 22.50.32 # I wonder why Zagor removed the Digital Out? 22.50.32 # SHEERS 22.50.43 # sorry I wondered why Archos removed the Digital Out 22.50.47 # thats what I was meant to say 22.50.48 # :-) 22.50.53 # lol 22.50.58 # Sure.. 22.51.03 # hehe 22.51.08 # i know why 22.51.09 # sorry Zagor 22.51.15 # whys that Midknight? 22.51.24 # so people wont use it to copy music, even without that HSCFSCMSOFF thing 22.51.36 # actually 22.51.43 # it's an easter egg submitted by me ahahah 22.51.47 # i stole if from you 22.52.15 # midknight2k3 22.52.49 # here 22.52.50 # http://eeggs.com/items/39454.html 22.52.55 # i submitted it as you can see 22.53.33 # perhaps the RIAA did find about it 22.53.34 # TADA! 22.53.37 # yes lol 22.53.55 # does the archos have a digital in port? 22.53.56 # are you really sure that the RIAA found about it? 22.54.07 # no 22.54.15 # the recorder does 22.54.21 # i think the fm recorder doesnt 22.54.24 # what recorder? 22.54.29 # oh ok 22.54.29 # recorder 20 22.54.41 # but uh, i dont know track 22.54.48 # they probably found out cause i submitted that ;) 22.56.11 # grrrrrrrrrrr 22.56.33 # youre getting an fm recorder? 22.57.00 # if not, why does it matter then? 22.59.10 # Why oh why oh why did Archos put the headphone output on the SIDE of the FM recorder?! 22.59.19 # o dont know 22.59.25 # are you getting one? 22.59.26 # or what 22.59.44 # was considering getting one 22.59.54 # but the headphone port on the side SUCKS 22.59.58 # good question 23.01.00 # you were? 23.01.04 # want info on it? 23.01.07 # i jsut wrote a review last night 23.01.13 # sure 23.01.29 # TADA 23.01.30 # http://www.epinions.com/content_104923762308 23.02.20 Part Lynx0 23.04.05 Join devZer0 [0] (jirc@pD951EDD9.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.08.11 # very good midknight 23.08.16 # ty 23.11.39 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 23.15.10 Join Stevie[FP] [0] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) 23.15.59 # <[IDC]Dragon> Zagor, I found that I don't need to sleep, the time waiting for the HD was plenty enough. 23.16.29 # excellent. so you don't need to change the usb code then? 23.16.42 # haha 23.16.48 # you come back to the main room when he leaves 23.17.06 # midknight2k3: who? 23.17.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> I still do. usb_inserted() is somehow not operational yet. 23.17.14 # tracktheripper 23.18.03 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 23.18.27 # good evening guys 23.18.42 # hello 23.20.01 # dragon: hmmm, odd 23.20.03 # is it bad weather in the world - things seem to move faster regarding rockbox :) you`re all back from your holidays with new energy? 23.20.39 # devZer0: hehe. i just had a fit of productivity this weekend, so i wrote the plugin loader 23.20.52 # me too :) 23.21.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> Zagor: I guess usb_inserted() only tells that if the USB screen is actually open. 23.22.02 Quit mecraw_ (Client Quit) 23.22.07 # if everybody was like you, rockbox would be finished within the next week :) 23.22.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> My productivity was starting from flash, as you probably know. 23.22.08 Join mecraw_ [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 23.22.24 # dragon: ah, right. it reports that all threads has acked the usb message, and we can switch off the ata controller 23.22.28 # idc: coooool thing! unbelievable - this is true hackerism :) 23.22.45 Join diddystar5 [0] (diddystar5@AC9D5324.ipt.aol.com) 23.24.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> Zagor: I need this whole business since I want to auto-rolo on coldstart only if USB is not plugged. Otherwise you have no chance to go inbetween if arbrec.ajz is bad. 23.24.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> Locked out by just a bad file, not desireable. 23.24.40 # yes, i understand 23.25.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> The code is working now, but my early roloing crashes. 23.28.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> Ahh, now it works. 23.29.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> Using Rockbox in flash as just a loader is not such a good idea, the loading and descrambling takes relatively long. 23.29.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> Better flash the firmware you'd like to use. 23.29.46 # yes 23.29.50 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@AC86A335.ipt.aol.com) 23.29.54 # uh oh 23.29.57 # run! 23.30.00 # :-( 23.30.04 # :) 23.30.06 # it was a joke 23.30.16 # * tracktheripper is very upset :-( 23.30.22 # heyyy 23.30.27 # come on! 23.30.31 # * midknight2k3 is very sorry 23.30.41 # * midknight2k3 is verrry verry very sorry 23.30.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> Otherwise it takes more than twice as long to boot. 23.31.26 # ok i forgive u 23.31.26 # :) 23.31.36 # thank you 23.31.39 # im sorry 23.31.43 # <_aLF> dragon> even if there isn't to rolo a firmware ? 23.31.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> Maybe we can extend the ajz format to be optionally unscrambled? 23.31.57 # idc: regarding flashing: who is this being done? do i need to have to build the serial mod? 23.32.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> aLF: If no firmware is found, then we're about as quick as before. 23.32.27 # dragon: sure. we can just use a new format. 23.32.34 Quit mecraw (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23.33.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> New format like as having a new filename/extension? I don't like this, because I'd have to look for 2 files. 23.34.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> Rather an unused bit in the ajz header, if there is. Preferably some bit that also prevents the original firmware from loading it. 23.35.54 Part diddystar5 ("Client exiting") 23.37.21 Join diddystar5_ [0] (diddystar5@ACA6A8ED.ipt.aol.com) 23.38.07 # midknight u still there? 23.38.11 # yes 23.38.12 # always 23.38.45 Nick mecraw_ is now known as mecraw (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 23.40.34 # why not look for two files? it takes very very little extra time, and 99% of users will use the uncompressed version anyway 23.45.18 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@public1-pint1-3-cust79.walt.broadband.ntl.com) 23.46.25 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 23.47.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> Zagor: very little time is what we don't have ;-) 23.47.45 # hey idc: the flash would save some power right? since there would be more buffer for mp3 data 23.48.00 # no 23.48.05 # boo 23.48.07 # mt 23.48.10 # wormlet patch done 23.48.14 # no 23.48.30 # wormlet patch isnt going to pay for my holiday 23.48.31 # so 23.48.34 # .. 23.48.39 # aww man! 23.49.57 # huh? 23.50.11 # nuttin 23.50.15 # his wormlet patch 23.50.32 # what does it change? 23.50.52 # you can set argh size, argh density, worm speed, points per food, etc 23.51.39 # ooo sounds cool :) 23.51.45 # it is 23.51.51 # you have fm recorder?? 23.52.04 # no a plain old recorder 23.52.37 # could ya send me the patch? 23.52.47 # ahh i only have it for fm recorder 23.52.52 # it's his patch anywyas 23.53.10 # thats ok i can build it on the simulator 23.53.17 # if it's ok with mt 23.53.33 # Mr. MT please! 23.53.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.53.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> Zagor, we don't happen to have a "charging" screen? 23.54.15 # no, we charge during normal activity 23.54.16 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 23.54.28 # MT 23.54.29 # PLEASE 23.54.32 # he wants a copu 23.54.33 # copy 23.55.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> So what behaviour is desired if the box is off and somebody plugs the charger in? 23.55.26 # power up and start as normal, imho 23.55.45 # perhaps bypassing the resume question, if any 23.56.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> I was about to ask that. 23.56.09 # <_aLF> (yes in my opinion, I don't like the charging screen on archos firmware) 23.56.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> So you'd like the disk to spinup and the box to show the browser? 23.56.42 # hey 23.56.50 # who wants to see the best feature request ever 23.56.53 # yes 23.57.00 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=689196&group_id=44306&atid=439121 23.57.33 # ill do the patch later 23.57.42 # its not exactly critical is it? a new worm game?! 23.57.43 # but 23.57.47 # he wants it 23.57.49 # it's very cool 23.57.58 # dont you want to make a fan happy 23.58.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> Another quirk with the firmware in flash and the charger is that I can't power off while the charger is plugged. Also desireable? 23.58.35 # midknight2k3: don't beg, it's not polite 23.58.42 # i wasn't 23.58.46 # im sorry though 23.58.57 # dragon: yes it is