--- Log for 06.07.103  Server: sterling.freenode.net  Channel: #rockbox
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01.05.22 #       <tracktheripper> hey
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01.39.31 #       <OliverKlozoff> wtf does 'kaenn dig som hemma'?
01.39.51 #       <OliverKlozoff> mean
01.41.14 #       <tracktheripper> dunno
01.41.22 #       <tracktheripper> first ive heard of that
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01.49.54 #       <Neo> hey guys
01.50.00 #       <Neo> just picked up an archos today
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01.52.57 #       <ClosetPacifist> cool- like it?
01.53.03 #       <Neo> dont know yet
01.53.06 #       <Neo> its chargind
01.53.08 #       <Neo> *charging
01.53.10 #       <ClosetPacifist> :)
01.53.15 #       <Neo> has to charge an hour, right?
01.53.18 #       <Neo> before i can use it
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01.56.18 #       <ClosetPacifist> belive that's what it says
01.58.00 #       <Neo> yeh
01.58.06 #       <Neo> and 1 more questio
01.58.09 #       <Neo> *question
01.58.22 #       <Neo> my play button (the one in the middle) is a little loose
01.58.25 #       <Neo> is that ok?
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01.59.59 #       <Neo> is urs like that?
02.00.06 #       <Neo> the small one in the middle
02.00.28 #       <BoD[]> Hello :)
02.00.29 #       <Neo> it moves areound
02.00.30 #       <Neo> hey
02.00.34 #       <Neo> do u know what i mean
02.00.38 #       <Neo> loose button Bod
02.00.44 #       <Neo> just got it 2day
02.02.24 #       <BoD[]> Heumm ??
02.02.31 #       <BoD[]> Are you talking to me
02.02.39 #       <Neo> sure
02.02.45 #       <Neo> on ur archos jukebox 
02.02.49 #       <OliverKlozoff> i think he doesn't understand the mechanics of irc
02.03.05 #       <Neo> is the small button in the middle "the play/pause button" is looks
02.03.09 #       <Neo> *loose
02.03.18 #       <BoD[]> Loose ? Loose like what
02.03.24 #       <Neo> like i can move it around
02.03.47 #       <BoD[]> No it's ok
02.03.49 #       <Neo> it moves with my finger when i move my finger around it
02.03.53 #       <Neo> is urs like that?
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02.04.52 #       <Neo> is urs a little loose?
02.05.02 #       <BoD[]> Well 
02.05.10 #       <BoD[]> Yes it's a bit loose then :) but it works anyway
02.05.15 #       <Neo> ok
02.05.16 #       <Neo> yeh
02.05.20 #       <Neo> just a little bit loose
02.05.29 #       <Neo> as well as the function keys
02.05.31 #       <Neo> the one at the top
02.05.49 #       <Neo> like wehn u move on the other ones move with it
02.06.10 #       <BoD[]> Yes of course
02.06.17 #       <Neo> ok
02.06.23 #       <Neo> but u kno what i mean with the play button
02.06.24 #       <BoD[]> Well .... Archos is not "good quality"
02.06.30 #       <Neo> ??
02.07.04 #       <BoD[]> Well yes
02.07.15 #       <OliverKlozoff> archos is a company
02.07.24 #       <BoD[]> Look at the buttons on an ipod for example :) they are not loose
02.07.28 #       <OliverKlozoff> though their products are not good quality
02.07.33 #       <Neo> there are no buttons
02.07.37 #       <Neo> on ipod
02.07.50 #       <Neo> i just wanto know if the play button on urs is a little loose
02.07.52 #       <Neo> ;)
02.08.17 #       <BoD[]> Yes it is
02.08.21 #       <Neo> ok
02.08.25 #       <Neo> pretty loose>
02.08.26 #       <Neo> ?
02.08.35 #       <BoD[]> A bit
02.08.43 #       <Neo> describe it to me
02.09.02 #       <BoD[]> :))))
02.09.15 #       <BoD[]> I would need to draw a 3d animation for that
02.09.17 #       <Neo> haha
02.09.22 #       <Neo> OliverKlozoff, u model?
02.09.23 #       <BoD[]> And I'm afraid I don't have the time ;)
02.09.35 #       <Neo> u model? 
02.09.38 #       <Neo> i meant bod
02.10.05 #       <BoD[]> Recorder 20
02.10.41 #       <BoD[]> You?
02.12.06 #       <Neo> yeh
02.12.09 #       <Neo> recorder 20
02.12.13 #       <Neo> mine is pretty loose
02.12.19 #       <OliverKlozoff> no, I don't model
02.12.23 #       <OliverKlozoff> that's for attractive people
02.12.26 #       <OliverKlozoff> like Zoolander
02.12.40 #       <BoD[]> Or for 3d modelers!
02.13.12 #       <Neo> i meant 3d modellers
02.13.13 #       <Neo> lol
02.13.37 #       <BoD[]> Hey neo how old are you
02.14.40 #       <Neo> y?
02.15.11 #       <BoD[]> 25
02.15.34 #       <Neo> im 23
02.15.48 #       <Neo> sorry to bug u, but is urs pretty loose
02.17.36 #       <ClosetPacifist> mine is
02.18.01 #       <BoD[]> Mine is just 'normally' loose
02.18.05 #       <ClosetPacifist> ya
02.18.05 #       <BoD[]> And it's usable
02.18.24 #       <BoD[]> So .... What's the point it's just meant to be usable no matter it's loose or not
02.19.31 #       <Neo> yeh
02.19.44 #       <Neo> i plugged in my jukeboox through usb
02.19.50 #       <Neo> and my computer found it
02.19.53 #       <Neo> (first time)
02.19.58 #       <OliverKlozoff> it's clear that the Archos people do not suffer from the 'pride in their work' disorder
02.19.58 #       <Neo> but i still cant use the device itself
02.20.36 #       <BoD[]> Me I always have 8.3 filenames when I plug my recorder with windows xp
02.20.41 #       <BoD[]> Very annoying
02.20.59 #       <Neo> nbm
02.21.01 #       <Neo> yeh
02.21.03 #       <Neo> its fine
02.21.07 #       <Neo> how do i install rockbox?
02.21.31 #       <BoD[]> Put the recorder.ajz file in the root directory
02.21.42 #       <BoD[]> I mean
02.21.52 #       <BoD[]> Hemm. What's the file name again
02.21.57 #       <BoD[]> *.ajz :)
02.22.05 #       <Neo> yeh
02.22.15 #       <Neo> ajbrec
02.23.01 #       <BoD[]> That's it
02.23.21 #       <Neo> yeh
02.23.28 #       <Neo> do i jsut drag that into the jukebox?
02.24.13 #       <ClosetPacifist> follow the other instructions in the zip too, if you're getting the 2.0 release
02.24.26 #       <Neo> 2.0?
02.25.45 #       <BoD[]> But you really should not get 2.0 and get the last daily build
02.25.51 #       <Neo> yeh
02.26.03 #       <BoD[]> And yeah just drag the file
02.26.20 #       <Neo> ok
02.27.14 #       <Neo> will i loose my previous songs?
02.28.35 #       <BoD[]> nop
02.28.38 #       <BoD[]> It's just a file :)
02.28.42 #       <Neo> ok
02.28.51 #       <Neo> do i get the top daily build
02.28.54 #       <Neo> or the bottom
02.29.19 #       <BoD[]> Look at the dates
02.29.37 #       <Neo> no dates
02.29.40 #       <Neo> just numbers
02.29.54 #       <BoD[]> Do the number start with 2003
02.29.57 #       <Neo> rockbox20030705.ajz
02.29.58 #       <Neo> yeh
02.30.00 #       <BoD[]> If yes, it's a date
02.30.07 #       <Neo> so get the latest one
02.30.12 #       <BoD[]> True;)
02.30.48 #       <Neo> ok
02.30.55 #       <Neo> my copmuter isnt reading my jukebox now
02.30.59 #       <Neo> :(
02.31.03 #       <ClosetPacifist> you also need to create a folder .rockbox in the root of the hd I belive, and a folder in that called rocks in which you put the contents of rocks.zip
02.31.38 #       <Neo> yeh
02.31.39 #       <Neo> did
02.31.56 #       <ClosetPacifist> cool
02.32.16 #       <Neo> but its not reading it
02.32.20 #       <Neo> :(
02.32.47 #       <Neo> brb
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03.00.20 #       <Neo_> hey
03.00.27 #       <Neo_> its a lie about playing doom
03.01.25 #       <Neo_> am i right?
03.05.02 #       <Neo_> anyone?
03.05.10 #       <OliverKlozoff> yes
03.05.16 #       <OliverKlozoff> if you look at the date
03.05.26 #       <OliverKlozoff> it's dated 4/1
03.05.46 #       <OliverKlozoff> i.e. april first
03.05.54 #       <Neo_> yeh
03.05.57 #       <Neo_> so just leave it?
03.06.38 #       <OliverKlozoff> yeah.
03.07.04 #       <Neo_> how do i get music match to recognize it?
03.07.52 #       <OliverKlozoff> music match?
03.07.56 #       <Neo_> yeh
03.08.01 #       <Neo_> music match kukebox
03.08.10 #       <OliverKlozoff> kukebox eh
03.08.29 #       <Neo_> lol
03.08.31 #       <Neo_> jukebox
03.09.07 #       <OliverKlozoff> never heard of it
03.09.12 #       <OliverKlozoff> whats it good for?
03.09.15 #       <Neo_> it came with the jukebox
03.09.20 #       <Neo_> how do u transfer songs?
03.09.55 #       <OliverKlozoff> the jukebox shows up as a hard drive
03.10.02 #       <OliverKlozoff> i just open up a window in explorer
03.10.07 #       <OliverKlozoff> and drag-and-drop
03.10.34 #       <Neo_> yeh
03.10.42 #       <Neo_> but each artist has to be in a folder?
03.11.06 #       <OliverKlozoff> says who?
03.11.31 #       <Neo_> will it automatically organize?
03.11.37 #       <Neo_> by artist?
03.11.40 #       <OliverKlozoff> will what automatically organize?
03.11.55 #       <Neo_> when i go back to my jukebox
03.12.00 #       <Neo_> will all the songs be scattered
03.12.05 #       <Neo_> or organized?
03.12.14 #       <OliverKlozoff> all the songs will be organized exactly the way you place them on the hard drive
03.12.21 #       <Neo_> yeh
03.12.21 #       <OliverKlozoff> if you throw them into one big directory
03.12.26 #       <OliverKlozoff> they'll all be in one big directory
03.12.32 #       <OliverKlozoff> if you group them together
03.12.35 #       <OliverKlozoff> they'll be together
03.12.38 #       <Neo_> so i should make individual folders
03.12.40 #       <Neo_> right?
03.12.43 #       <OliverKlozoff> if that's how you want it
03.12.52 #       <Neo_> how do u have it?
03.12.55 #       <OliverKlozoff> I have folders by artist for artists I have a lot of songs of
03.13.01 #       <OliverKlozoff> but for ones where I just have a single or two
03.13.15 #       <Neo_> yeh
03.13.18 #       <Neo_> what about full cds
03.13.25 #       <OliverKlozoff> i have like [A-H] [I-P] [Q-Z]
03.13.32 #       <Neo_> how?
03.13.47 #       <OliverKlozoff> i have directories named [A-H], [I-P], and [Q-Z]
03.13.51 #       <Neo_> o
03.13.56 #       <Neo_> but i have full songs
03.13.57 #       <OliverKlozoff> when the name starts with A i put it in the [A-H] dir
03.14.03 #       <OliverKlozoff> full cds you mean?
03.14.08 #       <Neo_> yeh
03.14.12 #       <OliverKlozoff> well ok then
03.14.16 #       <Neo_> the other mp3 players ive had had software to organize it
03.14.25 #       <BoD[]> I go to bed now
03.14.28 #       <BoD[]> See you !
03.14.28 #       <OliverKlozoff> I use explorer to organize
03.14.36 #       <Neo_> how?
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03.14.41 #       <OliverKlozoff> i just told you
03.14.57 #       <OliverKlozoff> i make a folder
03.15.00 #       <OliverKlozoff> drag-and-drop
03.15.36 #       <Neo_> yeh
03.15.44 #       <Neo_> but a folder for each artist?
03.15.57 #       <OliverKlozoff> what do you think?
03.16.16 #       <Neo_> yes?
03.16.30 #       <OliverKlozoff> if that's how you want it, then so be it
03.16.52 #       <Neo_> dude, im new
03.16.52 #       <OliverKlozoff> i sense that you're too damn accustomed to people forcing you to do it their way
03.17.03 #       <Neo_> im asking questions
03.17.08 #       <Neo_> well fuck u then
03.17.15 #       <OliverKlozoff> but you're asking questions on how YOU should organize your mp3s
03.17.28 #       <Neo_> ill get on when someone is here to answer my questions
03.17.31 #       <Neo_> like the other day
03.17.37 #       <Neo_> im asking what is the easiest thing to do
03.17.45 #       <Neo_> and the easiest way to do it
03.17.49 #       <OliverKlozoff> that I can't tell you
03.17.51 #       <Neo_> and if u dont wanto answer
03.17.53 #       <Neo_> then u dont haveto
03.18.03 #       <Neo_> cause i just got this damn thing today
03.18.08 #       <OliverKlozoff> I can only tell you how I do it
03.18.17 #       <Neo_> ok
03.18.19 #       * ClosetPacifist lets iTunes organize them.
03.18.20 #       <ClosetPacifist> It does it by artist, and then album.
03.18.30 #       <Neo_> im on a pc
03.18.36 #       <Neo_> music match organizes it
03.18.43 #       <Neo_> i just cant get it to find my player
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04.03.17 #       <Neo> anyone her worth talking to?
04.03.22 #       <Neo> *here
04.03.31 #       <MT> not really
04.03.39 #       <MT> !
04.03.59 #       <Neo> ur not worth talking to MT?
04.05.00 #       <Neo> had some questions about archos jukebox
04.05.07 #       <Neo> just got mine 2day
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04.06.33 #       <MT> he doesnt hang around long
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07.48.06 #       <ClosetPacifist> hmm... gcc 3.3 does pretty much the same thing as 3.1, going to try a newer binutils...
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09.36.27 #       <ClosetPacifist> ello
09.36.52 #       <ClosetPacifist> I think the cross compiler is installing!
09.37.12 #       * ClosetPacifist dances.
09.37.34 #       <ClosetPacifist> binutils 2.14 + gcc 3.1 = happiness
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16.09.29 #       <diddystar5> MT: hey!    ya wouldn't mind sending that wormlet patch you made? ;)
16.10.45 #       <MT> yes
16.11.22 #       <diddystar5> MT: please!!!!    it sound sooooo cool
16.14.01 #       <MT> yes
16.14.11 #       <MT> but its not finished yet
16.14.13 #       <MT> so
16.14.14 #       <MT> hush
16.20.01 #       <diddystar5> ok!     don't yell at me :(
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17.17.30 #       <Neo> hey guys
17.17.37 #       <Neo> i have rockbox and i love it
17.17.43 #       <Neo> i juyst have a few problems though
17.17.55 #       <MT> okay
17.17.59 #       <Neo> ok
17.18.00 #       <Neo> first off
17.18.08 #       <Neo> when i plug in my recorder
17.18.11 #       <Neo> when its off
17.18.15 #       <Neo> plug it in 2 charge
17.18.34 #       <Neo> the charger screen come up (the archos official one) and the backlight stays on
17.18.43 #       <MT> yep
17.18.49 #       <Neo> and i switched it to off when plugged in rockbox
17.18.53 #       <Neo> but it stays on
17.18.57 #       <MT> sure
17.18.57 #       <Neo> any solutions
17.19.03 #       <MT> but theres nothing we can do about that
17.19.18 #       <Neo> does urs stay on?
17.19.20 #       <MT> sure, you could load up rockbox, set the idle power off to never, and then plug in the charger
17.19.32 #       <MT> i dont have a recorder, but no
17.20.44 #       <Neo> yeh
17.20.45 #       <Neo> i did that
17.20.49 #       <Neo> and it charges
17.20.57 #       <Neo> but u recommend not charging when its off
17.21.01 #       <Neo> so it goes to that screen
17.21.03 #       <Neo> u know?
17.21.08 #       <Neo> just charge it on
17.21.13 #       <MT> well
17.21.23 #       <MT> if you dont like the archos charging screen, then yes
17.21.30 #       <Neo> i like the screen
17.21.37 #       <Neo> i just dont like the backlight on all night
17.21.37 #       <MT> personally I have no problem with it, so i just charge it however
17.21.57 #       <Neo> yeh
17.22.05 #       <MT> well we cant change whats in the firmware :)
17.22.05 #       <Neo> every time u charge is ur backlight on?
17.22.09 #       <MT> no
17.22.12 #       <Neo> yeh
17.22.15 #       <MT> but i dont have a recorder
17.22.17 #       <Neo> how come urs isnt and mine is
17.22.22 #       <Neo> u think they are differnt
17.22.31 #       <MT> we dont have the same model
17.22.41 #       <Neo> yeh
17.22.43 #       <Neo> ill ask later
17.22.48 #       <Neo> then, another problem is
17.23.02 #       <MT> there is no solution to that charging screen backlight problem
17.23.15 #       <MT> we cant alter the functionality that the builtin firmware has
17.23.22 #       <MT> but you can ask all you like :)
17.23.27 #       <MT> 2nd problem?
17.23.31 #       <Neo> is it possible that the backlight could burn its self out
17.23.42 #       <MT> not really
17.23.46 #       <Neo> ok
17.23.48 #       <Neo> 2nd problem
17.24.02 #       <Neo> snake and snow and some other things dont show up in demos and games
17.24.10 #       <Neo> but i can view them in my rocks folder
17.24.19 #       <Neo> but sokoban sais error loading levels
17.24.26 #       <MT> i havent played with rocks yet
17.24.38 #       <MT> sokoban, you need the levels text file
17.24.44 #       <MT> in /.rockbox/
17.25.21 #       <Neo> whats it called
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17.25.56 #       <MT> i couldnt tell you
17.26.06 #       <MT> i never bothered to find out myself
17.26.13 #       <MT> not much of a sokoban fan
17.26.16 #       <Neo> yeh
17.26.17 #       <MT> also
17.26.17 #       <Neo> mee neither
17.26.25 #       <Neo> im just a person who doenst like errors
17.26.30 #       <MT> have you tried playing your rocks
17.26.40 #       <Neo> in the archos
17.26.41 #       <Neo> yeh
17.26.43 #       <Neo> they play there
17.26.50 #       <Neo> except sokoban
17.26.58 #       <MT> but the error is they dont appear in the menu system?
17.27.31 #       <MT> bear in mind that rocks are _quite_ new
17.27.53 #       <Neo> yeh
17.28.04 #       <Neo> no the error is yes they dont appear, like snake
17.28.13 #       <Neo> but sokoban cant find the levels
17.29.47 #       <MT> so, you need the sokoban levels file
17.29.51 #       <MT> search the mailing list
17.30.01 #       <Neo> ok
17.30.16 #       <Neo> do i tehn just put it in the same directory (rocks) ad sokoban?
17.32.32 #       <MT> it goes in /.rockbox/
17.33.26 #       <Neo> not in rocks
17.33.33 #       <MT> no
17.33.36 #       <MT> in /.rockbox/
17.33.38 #       <Neo> ok
17.33.55 #       <Neo> am i correct, the rocks go in a seperate folder in .rockbox?
17.34.22 #       <MT> i dont know
17.34.51 #       <MT> i believe they go in a folder called rocks, or perhaps .rocks, either in / or in /.rockbox
17.35.06 #       <MT> you would have to look at bjorns email to see which
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17.37.24 #       <Neo> like it would be .rockbox/rocks
17.38.07 #       <MT> you would have to look at bjorns email to see which
17.38.11 #       <hardeep> Neo: yes, that's where you put the .rock files
17.38.32 #       <hardeep> Neo: the sokoban levels.txt file goes in /.rockbox/sokoban
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18.02.54 #       <Neo> how come my archos wont charge while its on
18.03.19 #       <hardeep> Neo: it should...  are you running rockbox or the archos firmware?
18.03.34 #       <Neo> rockbox
18.03.48 #       <Neo> it only charges when its off
18.03.50 #       <hardeep> Neo: what makes you say that charging isn't working?
18.04.06 #       <Neo> wait
18.04.08 #       <Neo> there it goes
18.04.14 #       <Neo> the battery keeps filling up
18.04.16 #       <Neo> u know?
18.04.18 #       <Neo> ok
18.04.23 #       <Neo> but wehn my jukebox is off
18.04.31 #       <Neo> i plug it in
18.04.37 #       <Neo> and it sais battery charging
18.04.45 #       <Neo> but the backlight is on
18.04.48 #       <Neo> and i dont want it on
18.04.52 #       <Neo> cause i keep it on all night
18.04.55 #       <hardeep> oh, right...  that's what the archos firmware does
18.04.58 #       <Neo> how do i change that
18.04.59 #       <Neo> yeh
18.05.05 #       <Neo> but ive installed rockbox
18.05.10 #       <hardeep> on rockbox, we just show the icon on the status bar
18.05.19 #       <Neo> o
18.05.20 #       <Neo> ok
18.05.27 #       <Neo> so i just have to keep it on to chage
18.05.29 #       <Neo> *charge
18.05.30 #       <Neo> ?
18.05.33 #       <hardeep> Neo: if you plug in the charger while the jukebox is on, it doesn't load rockbox
18.05.47 #       <hardeep> Neo: keep what on charge?
18.07.14 #       <Neo> cause rockbox is already on
18.07.34 #       <hardeep> oh, sorry, misread
18.07.53 #       <hardeep> yes, turn on te jukebox and let rockbox load before inserting the charger
18.08.05 #       <Neo> yeh
18.08.23 #       <hardeep> if you plug it in first and the archos firmware loads, hold on to "ON" until rockbox loads
18.08.35 #       <Neo> o
18.10.03 #       <Neo> but wehn the battery keeps filling up, (in rockbox) that meants its chargins
18.10.05 #       <Neo> *charging
18.10.37 #       <hardeep> Neo: yes... you can also tell when the charging icon appears
18.11.46 #       <Neo> what icon
18.12.06 #       <Neo> o
18.12.07 #       <Neo> yeh
18.12.10 #       <Neo> i know what ur saying
18.12.11 #       <Neo> ok
18.12.11 #       <Neo> now
18.12.19 #       <Neo> my root has the ajbrex.ajz
18.12.26 #       <Neo> then it has .rockbox and in that there is rocks
18.12.32 #       <Neo> sokoban cant find any levels
18.12.38 #       <Neo> and snake doesnt show up in games
18.12.41 #       <Neo> only in my rocks
18.12.54 #       <hardeep> Neo: the sokoban levels.txt file needs to put in /.rockbox/sokoban
18.13.14 #       <hardeep> Neo: snake has not been added to the games menu... you can "PLAY" the .rock file to play it
18.13.19 #       <Neo> ok
18.13.22 #       <Neo> sokoban
18.13.30 #       <Neo> doesnt have its own folder
18.13.32 #       <Neo> its in rocks
18.13.44 #       <hardeep> Neo: yes, sokoban.rock should be in rocks
18.13.57 #       <Neo> should i just put the levels.txt in my rocks folder?
18.13.58 #       <hardeep> Neo: but you also need a sokoban directory for the levels.txt file
18.14.03 #       <Neo> ok
18.14.09 #       <Neo> where do i get levels.txt
18.14.10 #       <hardeep> Neo: no, it has to be in /.rockbox/sokoban
18.14.25 #       <hardeep> Neo: rockbox.haxx.se/levels.txt
18.15.26 #       <Neo> and does the sokoban rock have to be in that folder
18.15.33 #       <Neo> or keep it in rocks
18.15.47 #       <hardeep> Neo: see above...
18.16.12 #       <hardeep> <hardeep> Neo: yes, sokoban.rock should be in rocks
18.16.45 #       <Neo> but the only thing in the sokoban folder should be levels.txt
18.16.47 #       <Neo> right?
18.16.53 #       <hardeep> Neo: yes
18.16.57 #       <Neo> ok
18.17.10 #       <Neo> anything else like this i have to do to get rockbox working?
18.17.14 #       <Neo> or totally working
18.17.26 #       <hardeep> Neo: are you running into any other problems?
18.17.32 #       <Neo> um
18.17.35 #       <Neo> dont think so
18.17.44 #       <Neo> and when i charge now
18.17.53 #       <Neo> its on
18.17.58 #       <Neo> am i right?
18.18.05 #       <Neo> like the whole menu is on
18.18.08 #       <Neo> but it is charging
18.18.14 #       <Neo> wont it slow down the charge?
18.18.31 #       <hardeep> Neo: yes, you have access to all rockbox functionality while chraging
18.18.43 #       <hardeep> Neo: I'm not sure about slowdown...  
18.19.04 #       <Neo> ok
18.19.13 #       <Neo> but am i safe to leave over night?
18.19.21 #       <hardeep> Neo: if you don't do anything then it definitely won't slowdown
18.19.24 #       <hardeep> Neo: yes
18.19.28 #       <Neo> ok
18.19.37 #       <hardeep> Neo: yoy may want to look at the battery charging faq on the rockbox website
18.19.42 #       <Neo> should sokoban be capitalized
18.19.44 #       <Neo> ok
18.19.49 #       <Neo> the folder?
18.19.50 #       <hardeep> Neo: case doesn't matter
18.20.00 #       <Neo> ok
18.20.41 #       <Neo> hmm
18.20.47 #       <Neo> still get error loading levels
18.21.08 #       <Neo> or failed loading levels
18.21.45 #       <hardeep> Neo: please verify that your jukebox has /.rockbox/sokoban/levels.txt
18.21.53 #       <Neo> o
18.21.59 #       <Neo> didnt put it in .rockbox
18.22.04 #       <Neo> thanks for ur patientce
18.22.45 #       <Neo> someguy yesturdat started cussing me out
18.22.49 #       <Neo> only had one question
18.26.30 #       <hardeep> Neo: btw, if you haven't done so already, you should read the user manual
18.27.01 #       <hardeep> Neo: a lot of the newer stuff like rocks aren't in it, but it still has a lot of useful info
18.29.34 #       <Neo> yeh
18.29.36 #       <Neo> i did
18.29.42 #       <Neo> so the rocks are new
18.32.55 #       <Neo> and some of them arent added
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18.40.38 #       <MT> hmm
18.40.43 #       <MT> thats not strictly true
18.40.47 #       <MT> i didnt cuss him
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19.05.26 #       <Neo> is there anyway i can see a percentage of how much battery power i have
19.05.55 #       <ClosetPacifist> in the preferences, you can change it from a battery to a number, or goto the menu then info and it'll tell you all kindsa yummy statistics
19.05.58 #       <hardeep> Neo: take a look at display settings... you can change from a graphical icon to a numerical value
19.06.53 #       <Neo> i changed it to numeric
19.07.02 #       <Neo> but it still has a graphic i think
19.07.57 #       <Neo> yeh
19.08.00 #       <Neo> nothing changed
19.08.14 #       <ClosetPacifist> are you sure it's set to numeric now?
19.08.24 #       <Neo> yeh
19.08.27 #       <Neo> and i pressed enter
19.08.32 #       <Neo> but heres my screen
19.08.40 #       <Neo> battery charging on left
19.08.45 #       <Neo> icon of charging
19.08.49 #       <Neo> vilume
19.08.53 #       <Neo> *volume
19.08.55 #       <Neo> and a pause
19.09.01 #       <Neo> icon
19.09.04 #       <ClosetPacifist> hmm, I'll see what mine does
19.09.09 #       <Neo> where is the percentage supposed be
19.09.20 #       <ClosetPacifist> in place of the battery charging
19.09.26 #       <Neo> yeh
19.09.36 #       <Neo> the battery charging is still there even when i change it 
19.09.52 #       <Neo> do i need to restart the device?
19.10.21 #       <ClosetPacifist> general settings->display->battery dispaly-> up arrow-> play works for me
19.10.36 #       <Neo> yeh
19.10.38 #       <Neo> thats where i am
19.10.42 #       <Neo> still a battery
19.11.03 #       <Neo> do i need to restart it
19.11.05 #       <Neo> im trying
19.11.07 #       <ClosetPacifist> dunno... might be because you're charging
19.11.11 #       <Neo> yeh
19.11.12 #       <ClosetPacifist> no, no need to restart
19.11.16 #       <Neo> o
19.11.20 #       <Neo> yeh
19.11.35 #       <Neo> o
19.11.36 #       <Neo> ok
19.11.38 #       <Neo> it worked
19.11.40 #       <ClosetPacifist> :)
19.11.40 #       <Neo> u guys are great
19.11.58 #       <Neo> always there 2 help
19.12.51 #       <Neo> its full
19.12.57 #       <Neo> ill come back if i need any more helpt
19.13.01 #       <Neo> *help
19.13.02 #       <Neo> thanks
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19.17.03 #       <ClosetPacifist> hmm... anyone know what a 'collect2: ld terminated with signal 10 [Bus error], core dumped' could mean? trying to compile rockbox with my new supposedly working tools.
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19.30.56 #       <Neo> hey
19.30.57 #       <Neo> again
19.31.01 #       <ClosetPacifist> ello
19.31.12 #       <Neo> is there anyway to shuffle my whole library
19.31.24 #       <Neo> so it just plays while i mow the lawn or something
19.31.42 #       <ClosetPacifist> hmm... how do you have the directory structure set up?
19.31.50 #       <Neo> what do u mean
19.31.52 #       <Neo> ?
19.31.53 #       <Neo> um
19.32.05 #       <Neo> i have each artist in a seperate folder
19.32.11 #       <ClosetPacifist> actually, you can probally use the playlist generating feature of rockbox
19.32.32 #       <ClosetPacifist> menu->playlist->generate playlists or somesuch I think
19.32.32 #       <Neo> how do i do that
19.32.45 #       <Neo> i dont have playlist
19.32.45 #       <ClosetPacifist> it creates playlists for each folder
19.32.49 #       <Neo> i have playback?
19.33.10 #       <Neo> is menu f1?
19.33.16 #       <Neo> o nvm
19.33.17 #       <ClosetPacifist> ya
19.33.24 #       <Neo> yeh
19.33.30 #       <Neo> how do i play a playlist
19.33.56 #       <Neo> do i just click on it
19.34.00 #       <ClosetPacifist> ya
19.34.06 #       <Neo> ok
19.34.16 #       <ClosetPacifist> if you get a root.m3u or somesuch file, you can just play that
19.34.17 #       <Neo> is it automatically shuffle
19.34.19 #       <ClosetPacifist> and turn on random
19.34.22 #       <Neo> yeh
19.34.31 #       <ClosetPacifist> press f2 and then right/left I think to toggle random
19.34.32 #       <Neo> u mean shuffle?
19.34.39 #       <ClosetPacifist> err, random = shuffle
19.34.46 #       <Neo> ok
19.34.48 #       <Neo> thanks
19.34.50 #       <Neo> i think i have it
19.34.53 #       <ClosetPacifist> ya, look at the f2 menu, it's on there
19.34.54 #       <ClosetPacifist> cool
19.35.03 #       <Neo> it made a playlst of my whole library
19.35.07 #       <Neo> when i play a song in a folder
19.35.15 #       <Neo> when its done does it go onto the next song
19.35.27 #       <ClosetPacifist> ya
19.35.30 #       <Neo> ok
19.35.32 #       <Neo> cool
19.35.34 #       <ClosetPacifist> or a random one in that folder if shuffle's on
19.35.42 #       <Neo> ok
19.35.45 #       <Neo> but only in that folder
19.35.51 #       <Neo> unless im on that plylist
19.35.52 #       <ClosetPacifist> ya
19.36.02 #       <ClosetPacifist> if you played a file in that folder, or that folder's playlist
19.36.11 #       <Neo> is there a bar that shows the current position
19.36.13 #       <Neo> yeh
19.36.40 #       <ClosetPacifist> think so, while it's playing, if not you can add it to a wps file- you can create your own layouts for the playing screen
19.36.48 #       <Neo> how
19.36.52 #       <Neo> sorry to bug u
19.36.54 #       <Neo> just got it
19.37.13 #       <ClosetPacifist> np- http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/custom_wps_format.html
19.38.18 #       <Neo> actually 
19.38.23 #       <Neo> right now
19.38.39 #       <Neo> i only have numbers
19.38.51 #       <Neo> like 2:20/3:40
19.38.53 #       <Neo> u kno
19.38.58 #       <Neo> anyway to turn that into a bar
19.39.05 #       <Neo> where part of it is filled up
19.39.14 #       <ClosetPacifist> for the song length?
19.39.24 #       <Neo> yeh
19.39.30 #       <Neo> progress bar
19.39.47 #       <ClosetPacifist>   %pb : Progress Bar
19.39.54 #       <Neo> yeh
19.39.58 #       <Neo> how do i do that?
19.40.13 #       <ClosetPacifist> you put %pb in your .wps file
19.40.28 #       <Neo> how do i make a .wps file
19.40.36 #       <ClosetPacifist> in a text editor
19.40.39 #       <Neo> yeh
19.40.42 #       <Neo> i just save it
19.40.46 #       <ClosetPacifist> yup
19.40.50 #       <Neo> with %pb
19.40.58 #       <Neo> but it in .rockbox?
19.42.09 #       <ClosetPacifist> yup
19.42.16 #       <ClosetPacifist> then goto the .rockbox folder and play it
19.42.20 #       <ClosetPacifist> to make that the wps screen
19.42.28 #       <ClosetPacifist> you'll probally want to populate it with other stuff too
19.42.38 #       <Neo> do i just enter and add another
19.42.56 #       <ClosetPacifist> ya, you evidentally get 10 lines for the recorder
19.43.09 #       <Neo> how do i make one though
19.43.30 #       <ClosetPacifist> eh? you just keep pressing return and put the stuff where you'd like
19.43.34 #       <Neo> any easier way to do just for the progress bar
19.43.52 #       <ClosetPacifist> ya, try modifying the default
19.44.22 #       <Neo> its already on the recorder?
19.45.20 #       <ClosetPacifist> it's on the site
19.45.26 #       <ClosetPacifist> not sure if the one listed on that page is the latest
19.46.10 #       <Neo> which one do u use
19.46.37 #       <ClosetPacifist> not sure
19.47.02 #       <Neo> o
19.47.02 #       <Neo> ok
19.47.09 #       <Neo> i named it custom.wps
19.47.15 #       <ClosetPacifist> k
19.47.19 #       <Neo> now i put it in .rockbox on my recorder
19.47.21 #       <Neo> and play it
19.47.23 #       <ClosetPacifist> ya
19.47.27 #       <Neo> and then itll make the effect
19.47.32 #       <ClosetPacifist> yup
19.47.52 #       <Neo> ok
19.47.54 #       <Neo> and
19.48.06 #       <Neo> if i turn on my recorder without it charging
19.48.11 #       <Neo> then i plug in the charger
19.48.14 #       <Neo> the icon comes on 
19.48.21 #       <Neo> but the percentage goes down
19.48.38 #       <ClosetPacifist> does it do 32-64-100 or something?
19.48.41 #       <ClosetPacifist> or just stay low
19.48.55 #       <Neo> it was at 100
19.48.59 #       <Neo> then i plugged it in
19.49.02 #       <Neo> and went 98
19.49.03 #       <Neo> 97
19.49.04 #       <Neo> 96
19.49.08 #       <Neo> and its at 94 now
19.49.21 #       <ClosetPacifist> odd... dunno
19.49.25 #       <Neo> yeh
19.49.51 #       <Neo> yeh
19.49.59 #       <Neo> and the battery icon isnt like moving
19.50.03 #       <Neo> how it does when it charges
19.50.21 #       <hardeep> Neo: please read the battery/charging faq, a lot of this is explained there
19.50.28 #       <Neo> ok
19.50.30 #       <Neo> where is that
19.50.34 #       <hardeep> Neo: i'd highly recommend reading as much of the documentation
19.50.42 #       <Neo> ok
19.50.47 #       <hardeep> Neo: documentation section from main page
19.51.23 #       <Neo> how do i save as a wps
19.51.37 #       <Neo> it saved it as wps.txt
19.51.51 #       <ClosetPacifist> just remove the .txt from the file name
19.52.50 #       <Neo> ok
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19.55.07 #       <Neo> do i put the wps in .rockbox
19.55.09 #       <Neo> or in the root
19.55.38 #       <Neo> casue it keeps opening it as a text
19.55.40 #       <Neo> in .rockbox
19.56.59 #       <ClosetPacifist> in .rockbox, make sure it ends in .wps
19.57.17 #       <ClosetPacifist> if it's in the rot it'll do the same thing but you'll have to play it each restart
19.57.44 #       <Neo> yeh
19.57.47 #       <Neo> i clicked on it
19.57.53 #       <Neo> and it didnt "play"
19.58.04 #       <Neo> it opened and i saw all the % etc
20.04.14 #       <ClosetPacifist> if it ends in .wps, then try playing a song
20.04.24 #       <Neo> yeh
20.04.25 #       <Neo> i do
20.04.32 #       <Neo> but its the same old display
20.04.47 #       <ClosetPacifist> then make sure it ends in .wps, if it dose, it should work
20.05.07 #       <Neo> yeh, it doesnt
20.05.13 #       <Neo> what do u mean i have to play it
20.05.29 #       <Neo> i click on it
20.05.32 #       <ClosetPacifist> press the play button on it
20.05.41 #       <Neo> yeh
20.05.49 #       <Neo> but it just opens it as a text
20.07.06 #       <Neo> im using this
20.07.07 #       <Neo> %s%?it<%?in<%in. |>%it|%fn>
20.07.07 #       <Neo> %s%?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(root)>>
20.07.07 DBUG    Enqueued KICK Neo
20.07.07 #       <Neo> %s%?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(root)>> %?iy<(%iy)|>
20.07.07 #       <Neo>  
20.07.07 ***     Alert Mode level 1
20.07.07 #       <Neo> %pc/%pt [%pp:%pe]
20.07.09 #       <Neo> %fbkBit %?fv<avg|> %?iv<(id3v%iv)|(no id3)>
20.07.11 #       <Neo> %pb
20.07.13 #       <Neo> %pm
20.07.37 #       <ClosetPacifist> then make sure it ends in '.wps', hmm
20.07.48 #       <Neo> i did
20.07.53 #       <Neo> its wps
20.07.56 #       <Neo> on the rockbox
20.08.05 #       <Neo> it sais custom.wps
20.08.08 #       <ClosetPacifist> hmm
20.08.08 #       <Neo> i click on it
20.08.10 #       <ClosetPacifist> odd
20.08.12 #       <Neo> and it only opens
20.08.13 #       <Neo> %s%?it<%?in<%in. |>%it|%fn>
20.08.13 #       <Neo> %s%?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(root)>>
20.08.13 ***     Alert Mode level 2
20.08.13 #       <Neo> %s%?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(root)>> %?iy<(%iy)|>
20.08.13 ***     Alert Mode level 3
20.08.13 #       <Neo>  
20.08.13 ***     Alert Mode level 4
20.08.13 #       <Neo> %pc/%pt [%pp:%pe]
20.08.15 #       <Neo> %fbkBit %?fv<avg|> %?iv<(id3v%iv)|(no id3)>
20.08.17 #       <Neo> %pb
20.08.19 #       <Neo> %pm
20.08.25 #       <Neo> and i can view it
20.11.51 #       <Neo> thats all
20.12.16 #       <Neo> any ideas?
20.12.25 #       <ClosetPacifist> not really
20.13.02 #       <Neo> hmm
20.13.08 #       <Neo> haveto restart?
20.13.25 #       <Neo> wehen u play it
20.13.28 #       <Neo> what happens
20.15.00 #       <ClosetPacifist> ni
20.15.10 #       <ClosetPacifist> you don't have to restert, it takes effect immediatly
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20.24.43 #       <hardeep> Neo: when it displays the wps, it means it has been applied
20.25.10 #       <hardeep> switch to the wps or start a new track and you'll see your new custom wps being used
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21.05.40 #       <diddystar5> hardeep: i noticed that the bouncer demo doesn't show the clock anymore
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21.51.22 #       <SillyFly> hmm...  no one here?
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21.58.35 #       <Neo> hey
21.58.38 #       <Neo> im having a problem
21.58.46 #       <Neo> my jukebox wont charge
21.58.57 #       <Neo> its at 87% and it keeps going down
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23.25.33 #       <Neo> hey
23.25.35 #       <Neo> anyone here?
23.25.47 #       <ClosetPacifist> ello
23.25.51 #       <Neo> hey
23.25.56 #       <Neo> i was reading on the website
23.26.09 #       <Neo> that any battery power over 85 wont charge
23.26.11 #       <Neo> well
23.26.17 #       <Neo> i have 87 and would like to get to 100
23.26.19 #       <Neo> but i plug it in
23.26.24 #       <Neo> doesnt charge
23.26.29 #       <Neo> and it keeps going down
23.27.04 #       <Neo> anyway to override that so it just charges till it gets to 100
23.27.40 #       <Neo> ???
23.28.06 #       <ClosetPacifist> wait til it goes below 85
23.28.11 #       <ClosetPacifist> acording to the faq
23.28.15 #       <ClosetPacifist> then it'll charge again
23.28.20 #       <ClosetPacifist> like you said
23.28.45 #       <Neo> yeh
23.28.52 #       <Neo> but then it stops at 90 or something
23.29.40 #       <Neo> it starts at 85
23.29.45 #       <Neo> but when it reaches a few more
23.29.46 #       <Neo> it stops
23.31.11 #       <Neo> u see what im saying?
23.32.23 #       <adi|home> dude.. wtf is the deal with the guy wanting the irc:// link...
23.33.12 #       <Neo> ?
23.33.39 #       <Neo> does anyone have a fix?
23.34.11 #       <Neo> its not even chargind at 85 now
23.34.40 #       <Neo> *charging
23.38.55 #       <Neo> hmmm
23.38.56 #       <Neo> no one
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23.41.49 #       <Neo> hey telliot
23.42.03 #       <telliott> Hey.
23.42.15 #       <Neo> when my ipod is above 85 it wont charge
23.42.19 #       <Neo> have any suggestions
23.42.22 #       <Neo> archos
23.42.25 #       <Neo> not ipod
23.42.25 #       <Neo> lol
23.42.35 #       <telliott> ipod???
23.42.41 #       <Neo> archos
23.42.42 #       <Neo> i meant
23.42.44 #       <Neo> to say
23.43.19 #       <Neo> when my recorder is below 85 it wont charge
23.43.26 #       <telliott> From what I've seen, the ipod isn't nearly as functional as Archos with Rockbox.
23.43.36 #       <Neo> yes
23.43.45 #       <Neo> i agree
23.43.59 #       <Neo> but my archos recorder wont charge over 85%
23.44.03 #       <Neo> when it does
23.44.07 #       <Neo> it stops momentarily
23.45.42 #       <telliott> I thaught the display stopped at 85% to keep people from disconnectiong it at 100% even though it's not fully charged.  Thye battery indicator isn't all that accurate.
23.46.18 #       <Neo> yeh
23.46.23 #       <Neo> but it wont charge over 85
23.46.31 #       <Neo> it goes down even with the charger in
23.46.36 #       <Neo> it goes down to 85
23.46.38 #       <Neo> then starts
23.46.44 #       <Neo> but doesnt even get to 100
23.46.45 #       <Neo> dont think
23.47.45 #       <telliott> My archos was dead so I used a set of backup batteries, and they read 11%.  I charged it for about 45 minutes till I wanted to use it.  It displayed 20%.  While I was out, it jumped to 57%
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23.51.19 #       <Neo> o
23.51.26 #       <Neo> but this isnt charging at all
23.51.57 #       <telliott> How long was it on charge before it stopped?
23.52.20 #       <Neo> what do u mean how long
23.52.25 #       <Neo> the percentage
23.52.31 #       <telliott> time
23.54.31 #       <Neo> it didnt stop
23.54.36 #       <Neo> it was still on 87
23.54.38 #       <Neo> still running
23.54.46 #       <Neo> but i watned to charge it to 100
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23.57.56 #       <Neo> i wanted to charge it to 100