--- Log for 15.07.103 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 11 days and 14 hours ago 00.08.24 Join tracktheripper1 [0] (jirc@ACBE837E.ipt.aol.com) 00.08.24 Quit tracktheripper1 (Client Quit) 00.08.36 # hello 00.08.50 # Sourceforge's server isn't working 00.11.34 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m232.net195-132-84.noos.fr) 00.11.37 # hello ! 00.13.06 # hey BoD! 00.13.31 # does anybody have msn messenger ? 00.15.15 # yes 00.20.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> In cas anybody cares: I've now released FM flashing, see my posting. 00.20.58 # Sourceforge's server isn't working 00.21.11 # In other news, the Earth is round 00.23.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm off for bed, cu! 00.23.54 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 00.24.52 # actually the Earth is spherical, not round :-P 00.25.37 # i'd really like to see a sphere that isn't round 00.27.48 # he means that round is a 2d term 00.28.01 # Stevie how many small cubes make up a Rubik's Cube? 00.29.12 # 14 ? 00.29.41 # 26, there isn't a cube in the centre 00.29.52 # 26 ??? 00.30.21 # oh is it a 4 cube :) 00.30.33 # my 14 is for a 3 cube 00.33.09 # a 4 cube? 00.33.26 # no 26 is for a 3 cube 00.33.41 # put it this way, 9x9=27 00.33.55 # but there is no centremost cube 00.34.00 # tracktheripper: duh? 00.34.03 # so therefore 27-1 = 26 00.34.21 # * Stevie-O gives you a gold star for your math skillz 00.34.31 # :))))) 00.35.06 # ive got a great feature request "Use your OWN picture for the Sliding Puzzle 00.35.07 # " 00.35.30 # there's a sliding puzzle ?? 00.35.43 # its one of the plug-ins 00.37.15 # great :) 00.41.47 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 00.42.20 # hey, anyone have an FMR and using a fairly recent build? 00.42.57 # what is an fmr ? 00.43.07 # oh fm recorder 00.43.15 # nosorry 00.43.48 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 00.43.51 # if so, could you go to Main Menu->Playlist Options->Recursively Insert Directories and tell me what you see please 00.46.46 # The dynamic playlist functions work great for me from flashed firmware. The only thing I had trouble with after flashing is that it would hang at "Loading" if I turned it on with USB plugged in. With the latest build, it works like it should. It comes on and goes into usb mode. 00.49.53 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: stays crunchy in milk!") 00.53.14 # BoD I filed that as a feature request 00.54.35 # great 00.56.37 # should be possible (theoretically) 00.57.15 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 00.58.25 # What feature request? 01.01.32 # The feature I'm waiting for is a charging screen so we don't have to rely on the Archos firmware for charging when the battery level is too low to spin up the drive. 01.02.23 # it should be enough to just start up the power thread before the hard disk power on... 01.02.39 # What idiot thaught we would want the display lights on all the time during charging? 01.03.57 # if it hasn't been changed very lately, the power management thread which controls the charger on the non-FM Recorders is the last thread that is started 01.04.18 # (i guess it's the last thread that was added 8-) 01.04.20 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-195-146.res.east.verizon.net) 01.04.26 # Do you have an FM? 01.04.38 # I do! 01.05.05 # Have you tried flashing your FM? The firmware has been test now. 01.05.14 # tested 01.05.22 # who test it? 01.05.27 # tested 01.05.35 # maybe moving power_init(); in apps/main.c to right after adc_init(); would help with the problem 01.05.51 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-07/0645.shtml 01.06.21 # Jorg (Who else). 01.06.24 # I'm getting all of today's email now 01.06.35 # power_init(); enables the charger immediately if the level seems to be low 01.07.16 # though I'm not sure if that is enough to power the disk up 01.07.20 # you running it tpe? 01.07.20 # but maybe. 01.07.21 # does the FMrec use hardware or software for charging 01.07.27 # tracktheripper: hardware 01.07.41 # so howcome the normal rec uses software charger??!! 01.07.50 # It will test the power leven instead of just going into charge mode when it's turned on by plugging in the power adapter? 01.07.59 # and rockbox will shut the fm down when it still has ~30 minutes power left 01.08.02 # because it doesn't have hardware charger control electronics 01.08.26 # yea but you still need hardware to physically get the current into the batteries........ 01.08.37 # yes? 01.10.35 # tpelliott: currently rockbox checks if charging should be enabled after everything else has been started up and initialized, including the disk 01.10.48 # Has anyone bought the new 2200 mha batteries? 01.11.05 # We could simply move the charger init somewhere before the disk startup, that would give us a lot more power for the disk startup 01.13.35 # z ! 01.15.08 # I still think we should drop checking for firmware on the disc. 01.16.13 # I'm not a programmer but I have a simple batch file that converts the daily build into a "rockbox.ucl" file. 01.18.36 # ok, flash firmware has been copied to the archos 01.19.14 # Is it working ok? 01.19.29 # just been copied to the disk 01.19.39 # not flashed, yet 01.19.52 # booting 01.20.04 # A friend of mine has an FM but his is fairly new and I don't think he wants to kill the warrenty yet. 01.21.32 # i upgraded the disk. so much for warranty 01.22.15 # I want to upgrade my AJBR20. What disc did you go with? 01.22.38 # there has to be a reason why NTFS doesn't work 01.22.44 # fujitsu, the quiet one 01.23.18 # \I'm looking at the Toshiba 60GB. Under $160 01.24.30 # Why on earth do you need a 60Gb drive for? 01.24.32 # internal roms backed up 01.24.36 # I can't even fill my 10Gb drive 01.24.53 # mp3's, what else :) 01.24.54 # emusic.com 01.25.03 # I spent $170 01.25.11 # yea but you must encode at some stupidly high bitrate 01.25.13 # with shipping 01.25.33 # um, vbr ~192 01.26.02 # I encode at 192 cbr Lame. I have a ton of CDs that I have no room for on my 20GV 01.26.24 # vbr's better 01.26.45 # it'll allow portions to be >192 where needed 01.27.38 # question before i go to bed, archos mp3 players = choice for the more dynamic user? (nerdy in otherwords) 01.27.57 # ipod's are still sexier 01.28.09 # archos is user hackable 01.28.21 # screw looks :D don't want something better looking than me 01.28.23 # hmm 01.28.25 # ipod is lighter & more disk 01.28.33 # more expensive 01.28.41 # archos is cheaper & more disk if you upgrade 01.28.48 # I haven't messed with VBR. I encode 192 cbr, highest quality stereo (Not JS). and mono 96 for mono sources. 01.29.00 # no JS? 01.29.12 # ok thanks, night all 01.29.17 # doesn't it decode to the same thing? 01.29.33 # I've heard js can compromize quality. 01.29.37 # with less huffman space? 01.29.38 Quit Shrike| (" BOB BOB HES OUR MAN IF HE CANT FUCK IT UP SETHY WILL AV A GOOD GO|[00:26] best slogan ever: "Keeps ) 01.30.06 # fuck. a four line goodbye message 01.30.10 # 192kbs CBR is fine for me 01.30.29 # above 192= pointless, below 192= compression artifacts 01.30.42 # vbr allows the good parts to encode higher 01.30.49 # I did download a few tracks at 320 that I didn't downsample. 01.31.02 # yea but VBR is harder to decode 01.31.12 # so? 01.31.25 # you decoding em with an abucus? 01.31.45 # Do you guys do much serious recording with your Archos? 01.31.50 # nope 01.32.00 # yes I do 01.32.04 # ok, about to flash. 01.32.10 # hide your eyes 01.32.26 # 01.33.07 # why are you lot so keen on wreaking your Jukeboxes for? 01.33.22 # verify ok 01.34.47 # We aren't wrecking anything. We trust Jorg. He's a genious :) 01.35.27 # and a genius, too 01.35.31 # oh right 01.35.39 # whats wrong wiv loading firmwar of the HD 01.35.43 # about to boot 01.35.53 # I'm no good at spelling. 01.36.19 # imy god! it's, it's full of stars! 01.36.50 # Is that good or bad? :) 01.37.07 # line from 2001 a space odyssey 01.37.17 # ok. 01.37.20 # when they look into the monolith 01.37.29 # it boots way faster 01.37.37 # unless I press f1 01.37.59 # ! 01.38.09 # Then, it still boots faster with Archos (lousy) firmware. 01.38.23 # not much faster :) 01.38.29 # ok, faster 01.38.55 # I'll delete ajbrec.ajz_ 01.39.02 # so I can boot archos 01.39.19 # You can keep it for Archos to load if you want. 01.39.40 # Rockbox will look for the exact file name. 01.39.47 # no, I want to load the old firmware 01.40.26 # utterly sweet! 01.41.11 # about 4 seconds 01.41.41 # Turn it off, plug in the usb and turn it back on to see if boots to USB. 01.42.13 # That's the only problem I had first time. I had to turn it on before plugging in USB 01.42.43 # Latest daily build solves that problem for me. 01.43.28 # yeah, i see logo, then usb 01.43.40 # both rockbox 01.43.43 # Cool. 01.44.07 # unplug gives me rockbox dir 01.44.42 # utterly cool 01.45.21 # and rockbox even boots faster from flash than does archos 01.45.36 # what were the archos programmers smoking? 01.46.05 # I haven't seen a single update for Archos's firmware. Remember the days when we would try to load large playlist only to see it take forever, then it would turn off before playing anything. 01.46.28 # never even tried playlists on archos 01.46.49 # I remember when I first tried rockbox 01.46.52 # the archos firmware can only play 999 entries in playlist 01.46.59 # before there was an fm rockbox 01.47.07 # which is crass to say the least 01.47.12 # defualt's now 10000 01.47.12 # At least the hardware is solid (if you get a good unit). 01.47.24 # true enough, tpe 01.47.26 # my unit is almost indestructable 01.47.46 # I've kinda destructed mine, putting in the new hdd 01.48.17 # Is Archos the only hard drive mp3 player that allows freely copying file to and from the player? 01.48.26 # dunno 01.48.29 # no 01.48.43 # the Creative Labs MuVo also offers that 01.49.16 # 128MB, who wants that? I don't jog anyway. 01.49.45 # two of my uncles died jogging 01.49.46 # well its just a USB Memory key wiv the player tacked on 01.50.35 # awww 01.50.42 # I've heard the ipod lets you copy files to and from it from a drive letter, but only on a separate partition, not the music partition. 01.51.00 # no, i was being serious, track 01.51.28 # not clear about ipod drm. a colleuge has an ipod,'seems happy 01.52.40 # I'm waiting for the Archos type external hard drive behavior to be declared illegal by the RIAA. 01.53.16 # it has legit uses 01.53.31 # True, but... 01.53.32 # and all my mp3s are legal 01.53.47 # Most of mine are from my own CDs. 01.54.10 # all are form my cds or emusic.com 01.54.54 # But it's too easy for you to give tunes to your friends. 01.55.04 # not really 01.55.20 # I had a good friend ask me to d/l some emusic for her 01.55.23 # I said no 01.55.40 # then I bought her a $25 poster 01.56.18 # Does emisic files have any embedded security code? 01.56.41 # I don't know 01.57.04 # I'll arrange a test 01.57.07 # I've often wondered how the binaries newsgroups can keep going? 01.57.32 # no crackdown 01.58.28 # What bitrate are emusic tunes? 01.58.31 # hep can you please go to http://JRAF.org:4242/tmp/yes.html and tell me if it works ? 01.59.02 # vbr, ~160-192 01.59.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.59.21 # so the highest is about 224 on average 01.59.36 # I think they're using -r3mix 02.00.34 # In otherwords, about what I'd use, except I go bit higher now that I have extra disk space 02.00.39 # I'll have to check out emusic. 02.01.13 # What headphones are you using? 02.01.32 # $10/month for ~2000 tracks 02.01.59 # sony mdr-g56 02.02.05 # I need to get better phones but I want something that dits easily in my pocket. 02.02.21 # the sonys don't fold 02.02.50 # I have some $20 Sony earbuds that aren 02.02.56 # t too bad 02.03.09 # Very easy to stash. 02.04.00 # earbuds annoy me 02.05.40 # These are the best I've tried. They have a rubbery piece that funnels sound into your ear canal without being "earplug" type. 02.06.13 # hmm 02.07.17 # so, 99,999 flashes left 02.08.03 # I have a large pair of Sony MDR-V6 folding phones that sound great. I need new earpads. I've had them for about 14 years. 02.08.26 # wow 02.08.48 # I got the sonys after I snapped the archos phone's cord 02.09.05 # for me, phones are ephemeral 02.10.31 # do you use any id3 tags archos doesn't read? 02.11.00 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 02.11.15 # Not really. 02.11.49 # I want to add user specified tags 02.12.31 # \I don't use the genre tag that much. 02.12.53 # I use several 02.15.22 # What kind of music do you listen to? Mine is mostly rock, with a little jazz. 02.15.54 # the tags become a 'problem' only for classical music 02.16.21 # True. 02.18.34 # and you can't shuffle, as one 'song' is divided into one track per movement 02.19.33 # ]Do you just combine tracks? 02.20.20 # nope 02.20.45 # Early CDs had index points but those aren't even supported on newer players. 02.20.53 # I leave separate; each movemt has a name (really, a playing direction) 02.21.06 # yeah 02.21.49 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB90A8F.ipt.aol.com) 02.23.18 # I'm looking at the Sony headphones page. They have a pair for only $699.99. 02.23.35 # grab em! 02.23.36 # WHAT! 02.23.44 # £699.99??? 02.24.04 # no, real money :) 02.24.07 # http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_BrowseCatalog-Start;sid=4NBBOstOr_pBAvRdpUlLMYRBhXdb-pCrtcU=?Dept=pa&CatalogCategoryID=Rx8KC0%2eNFDUAAAD2cuWHHFC1 02.24.33 # they better massage your ears too 02.24.56 # :D 02.25.31 # you must be able to do something with the Player's character cells 02.25.58 # write chars to em? 02.26.29 # actually, look up what was done with dos boxes before graphic cards 02.26.31 # Well since they are composed of pixels like the Recorder's LCD you must be able to use the 22 characters like a mini LCD panel 02.27.20 # but at each refresh, the lcd would read the new char set 02.27.27 # :| 02.27.55 # what's the pixel size of each char? 02.28.19 # 5x7 02.28.33 # each character cell is made up of 35 pixels 02.28.40 # 2**35 02.28.56 # so 35x22= 770 pixels in total 02.29.00 # on the Player 02.29.39 # i suspect you can't address individual pixels 02.30.11 # well if they really wanted to use character cells, why not use a calculator-type LCD? 02.30.21 # with the segments rather than pixels? 02.30.32 # looks better? 02.31.05 # i mean segments like on a calculator LCD 02.31.22 # yeah 02.31.26 # looks better 02.33.03 Part tpelliott 02.34.11 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 02.40.30 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 02.41.10 # earHurts: around? 02.42.48 # yup 02.43.09 # what can i do for you? 02.43.33 # earHurts: are you using any patches in your build? 02.43.44 # i don't know 02.43.57 # earHurts: I don't see anything in the code that would be causing the recursive insert bug 02.44.00 # i'm using idcdragon's build 02.44.10 # eartHurts: and i tried it out on the simulator and couldn't reproduce 02.44.22 # did you see the list today? 02.44.38 # another fm usr's reporting it 02.44.38 # earHurts: in that case you're probably not using any patches 02.44.45 # earHurts: yeah, i saw 02.45.01 # earHurts: could you try a reset again please 02.45.19 # sure 02.45.50 # ok, done 02.46.12 # still no options 02.46.57 # are you simulating fm? 02.47.40 # earHurts: sorta, just added the FM recorder define to the recorder simulator 02.48.09 # hmm 02.48.27 # it's gotta be a conflict with an fm setting 02.48.43 # earHurts: there are no fm settings being used in the config block 02.49.00 # sure there must be 02.49.01 # earHurts: there are three in the structure, but none are used anywhere in the code 02.49.27 # ok, try this 02.49.53 # move the position of the recursive option 02.50.08 # earHurts: could you go to debug->view/clr rtc ram 02.50.28 # and do what? 02.51.07 # what value in rtc is recursive? 02.51.14 # earHurts: er, tell me what's at 0x2c 02.51.39 # earHurts: 0x2f is the byte that contains the recursive setting 02.51.54 # rtc read only goes to 02.51.56 # nevermind 02.52.13 # 2c is 7d 02.52.36 # 2f is 03 02.52.57 # earHurts: hmmm, then recursive should be off 02.53.18 # 3 is off? 02.53.38 # 3 = browse current on and play selected on 02.53.53 # oh, it's bits 02.53.59 # recursive is bits 2 and 3 02.54.43 # earHurts: lets try that moving around thing. can you build? 02.54.50 # sure 02.54.59 # based on what? 02.55.06 # current cvs? 02.55.25 # earHurts: something somewhat recent, this code hasn't changed in a couple of weeks 02.55.40 # let me update 02.56.37 # what do you want me to do after a I update? 02.57.38 # earHurts: delete the 3 settings #ifdef HAVE_FMRADIO in settings.h 02.57.49 # earHurts: fm_* 02.58.21 # how about I just #undef HAVE_etc 02.58.44 # earHurts: nah, that will touch too much 02.59.02 # ok, I'll comment out 02.59.30 # crap! I missed manor house 03.01.53 # hmmm, never heard of it 03.02.30 # bbc reality show 03.03.07 # the paticipants play merchant knight & family or their servants 03.03.15 # in edwaedian england 03.03.40 # they really get into the class distinctions of their parts 03.04.02 # the poor butler really takes it hard 03.05.58 # lines 159-164 commented out 03.07.05 # make clean 03.07.18 # make 03.15.39 # having to make again 03.15.50 # wrong gcc 03.20.50 # commenting those out makes no change 03.21.28 # earHurts: hmmm, okay 03.21.56 # i gotta go but i'll keep investigating 03.22.13 # k 03.22.16 # thanks 03.22.24 # btw, what are your max playlist , max files and show icons settings>? 03.22.47 # default and default and yes 03.23.01 # oh, one more thing you can try... what happens when you save the settings? 03.23.23 # what's the recurse setting in the cfg file? 03.23.40 # 400, 10000, Yes 03.23.52 # the test file? 03.23.56 # text? 03.24.34 # earHurts: yeah 03.25.20 # off 03.25.34 # blah 03.25.53 # that means the setting is correct 03.26.27 # ok, let me read on 03.27.09 # I just read on. 2f is now 7 03.27.34 # 111b 03.28.16 # still no options though 03.28.40 # earHurts: hmmm, 7 is correct 03.28.55 # must be the menu code then 03.29.01 # ok, I'm going to do a dir 03.29.32 # it's rather slow 03.30.03 # got about 10 tracks/sec 03.30.09 # playing 03.30.19 # sweet 03.30.30 # nice work hardeep 03.30.31 # earHurts: yeah, that's about right 03.30.42 # earHurts: disk writing is slow 03.30.52 # earHurts: er, it's working now? 03.30.56 # yeah 03.31.09 # earHurts: the menu too? 03.31.16 # I just can't set the seettings in the nebu 03.31.22 # menu doesn't work 03.31.22 # ah, okay 03.31.35 # I typed 'on' in the config file 03.31.41 # earHurts: what language do you use? 03.31.50 # american 03.31.53 # english 03.32.29 # want me to try another? 03.32.39 # earHurts: laugh, sure, why not 03.32.45 # earHurts: any except dutch 03.33.00 # de 03.33.24 # de doesn't xlat playlist 03.33.32 # no opts 03.33.44 # hmmm, okay 03.33.55 # spanish 03.34.03 # no xlat 03.34.10 # no opts 03.34.22 # heh, guess it's not language then 03.34.32 # it 03.34.35 # okay, got it narrowed somewhat, i'll continue investigating later 03.34.41 # thanks for your help 03.34.49 # no, thank you 03.35.04 # heh, bye 03.35.07 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Check out the sexy BitchX pr0n at http://127.0.0.1/bx-pron.html") 03.35.07 # byre 03.55.44 Quit BoD[] ("TCL 4EVA") 03.59.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.00.22 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 04.01.46 # FM still running fine, Earl? 04.05.45 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 04.07.24 Join OliverKlozoff [0] (whatsit2u@user-2inilt2.dialup.mindspring.com) 04.07.25 Quit Stevie-O (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.07.31 # earHurts: still around? 04.09.31 # I haven't seen him lately but I was here when he successfully flashed his FM. 04.10.57 # Are you guys working on a charging screen? 04.12.18 # tpelliott: [IDC]Dragon would be the one working on it if anyone is 04.15.48 # Everything is working fine here though I wouldn't mind if Jorg removed jooking for firmware on the hard drive. 04.21.13 # i hate jooking for firmware 04.21.16 # it's such a PITA 04.22.07 # Sorry. My fingers sometimes hits the wrong key. 04.35.06 # earHurts: try the next bleeding edge build and see if it fixes the problem 04.36.03 # Your change only affects the FM? 04.38.51 # I'm curious why you guys haven't mentioned the wonderful "Rockbox in rom" in the front-page news? Are you waiting to make sure all is ok? 04.43.25 # god! 04.43.32 Quit hardeep ("My damn controlling terminal disappeared!") 04.43.39 # I will never use paypal again 04.47.50 # What happened with paypal? 04.49.36 # FYI on my AJBR20 with the latest build, just downloaded and flashed, holding off with power plugged in causes Rockbox to restart. 04.53.40 # to order via paypal, you have to join 04.54.19 # then they want your mom's maiden name, birth city, partial ssn or oartial driver's id 04.54.46 # in other words, enought that if they get cracked, it,s identity theft time 04.55.11 # and then it's a pain to close the account 04.55.58 # all I wanted to do was buy two cds 04.56.26 # just spend 48 bucks and be done 04.58.46 # I'm buisy trying to solve the sliding puzzel...I was never good at those when I was a kid. 04.59.55 # yah just pop out #15 05.05.16 # Did you try the latest bleeding edge build, earl? 05.08.05 # earl? 05.08.20 # I'll have you know I a count 05.10.01 # if you run windows, here's the batch file I use to convert the AJZ file 05.10.09 # @echo off 05.10.09 # descramble ajbrec.ajz rockbox.bin 05.10.09 # uclpack --2e --best rockbox.bin rockbox.ucl 05.10.09 DBUG Enqueued KICK tpelliott 05.10.09 # del rockbox.bin 05.10.09 # del ajbrec.ajz 05.11.05 # Sorry. Read your nick wrong. 05.11.58 # earHurts, like you have an ear ache? 05.12.00 # thanks 05.12.06 # yeah 05.12.12 # like an earache 05.12.25 # when I first rockbo irc'd 05.12.46 # I'm making the bleeding edge now 05.13.02 # You build your own? 05.13.41 # couldn't find the bleeding edge binary link 05.14.17 # besides, I like making my own 05.14.18 # You need the rocks also. 05.14.36 # did they bump the api again? 05.15.11 # the build should build the rocks 05.15.23 # not sure about the flashing rock 05.15.27 # ok. 05.15.46 # The flashing rock wikk be new. 05.15.50 Join Schnueff_ [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 05.15.53 # will 05.16.06 # hang a sec, I'll check 05.16.42 # I want to understand C well enough to build my own....eventually. 05.17.00 # you need no C just to build 05.17.41 Quit Schnueff (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.17.49 # If I don't understand any of the code, I might as well download the pre-built binary. 05.18.14 Quit OliverKlozoff (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.18.18 # well, true 05.18.47 # reading code's not difficult 05.18.58 # knowing what to write can be 05.19.27 # Make shure you put "rockbox.ucl" in the root. You can keep all the rocks together. 05.20.09 # what's rockbox.ucl? the compressed image? 05.20.40 # Yes. Descramble to .bin, then compress to .ucl 05.20.56 # do you know any programming language? 05.21.28 # Batch files....from my many days (years) running DOS. 05.22.00 # you know what %1 does in a batch? 05.22.45 # Takes what the user types after the batch file and puts it in place of %1 05.23.02 # yeah. it's a variable 05.23.31 # open up tree.c and start reading 05.23.34 # Yes. I understand a few of the concepts of programming. 05.24.14 # ok. 05.24.23 # doesn't build flash rock. 05.24.45 # It should be.... 05.25.34 # rockbox_flash.rock 05.25.46 # no dice 05.26.15 # Strange. It should be in the package on the web site. 05.26.23 # let's see what bleeding does 05.26.58 # no fix 05.27.02 # It's there, just checked. 05.27.14 # is it in cvs? 05.27.25 # crap. 05.27.43 # where are the bleeding edge binaries? 05.27.48 # in the bleeding edge build. 05.28.12 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml 05.28.51 # oh 05.28.56 # bottom of page 05.29.47 # You have to use a switch with the compression. Just use my batch file. 05.30.08 # thanks, but I'm not going to flash it 05.30.30 # Why not? 05.31.11 # I want to mess around with the code, add some private patches 05.31.32 # I want to be able to do that. 05.31.45 # What kind of stuff is in your private patches? 05.31.49 # you know the credits screen? 05.31.56 # Yes. 05.32.01 # ah! 05.32.07 # the bleeding works. 05.32.15 # but my build doesn't! 05.32.43 # I change all the names in credits to their pig latin translation 05.34.47 # kidding 05.34.51 # interesting. I was thinking you changed the menus to the way you like them or something like that. 05.35.15 # I have patch to remove the begiing of file names from the display 05.35.51 # beginning 05.36.00 # Cool. 05.36.03 # and a patch to make settings smaller 05.36.52 # I would like to change some of the quick settings. 05.37.27 # me too 05.37.30 # how? 05.38.48 # what changes would you make? 05.39.02 # I like the dynamic playlist feature. I would like single-key insert and re-randomize. After I add atuff, I like to randomize everything. I have to turn shuffel off and back on. 05.39.41 # why not just leave shuffle on?. 05.40.17 # the inserted stuff isn't shuffeled. 05.40.52 # Hardeep told me about the off-oin trick. 05.41.06 # won't it play shuffled if shuffle is on? 05.41.07 # on 05.42.16 # Instead of shuffel off on, I would have the quick setting reshuffel. 05.43.29 # what happens if you leave shuffle on when you inser? 05.46.18 # it will play the inserted folder in order, then continue with the original shuffeled playlist. 05.46.33 # I think 05.46.52 # ah 05.47.21 # that's odd 05.48.11 # I'll have to try again to make sure it still behaves that way. 05.48.28 # create playlist creates in order (which is good) but plays according to the current shuffle settings 05.48.49 # and it seems to be faster too 05.49.05 # perhaps seperate code? 05.51.34 # Cool. 05.53.01 # what we need, is a playlist browser 05.53.16 # True. 05.53.53 # Could we at least view it in the text viewer? 05.54.11 # except rockbox'll play it 05.54.20 # view it on your pc 05.55.34 # the current dynamic playlist is different than standard playlists. 05.56.11 # how so? 05.58.12 # Look at ".playlist_control" in the .rockbox folder. 05.59.02 # I'm in the bathtub at the moment 05.59.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.59.34 # Typine in the bathtub? 05.59.41 # typing 05.59.54 # pda 06.00.04 # wifi 06.00.10 # Cool. 06.00.18 # i like to soak my feet 06.00.48 # need to get speakers in here though 06.01.08 # pda speaker is too tinny 06.02.03 # Get some good powered speakers. 06.02.11 # yeah 06.02.24 # now, do I wifi or cable 'em 06.02.32 # I thin cable 06.03.00 # microwave emissions scare me 06.03.19 # I'm using a pair of older "Bose Roomate II" speakers on my PC. 06.03.57 # Listen and cook your dinner at the same time :) 06.04.18 # no, the wifi scares me 06.04.45 # even though my pda is broadcating straight through my skull right now 06.06.02 # Each line in the playlist_control file starts out 06.06.08 # P:1:: 06.06.08 # A:0:0:/Jelly 06.06.08 # A:1:1:/Jelly 06.06.08 # A:2:2:/Jelly 06.06.08 # A:3:3:/Jelly 06.06.08 *** Alert Mode level 1 06.06.08 # A:4:4:/Jelly 06.06.10 # A:5:5:/Jelly 06.06.13 # A:6:6:/Jelly 06.06.15 # A:7:7:/Jelly 06.06.16 # A:8:8:/Jelly 06.06.18 # A:9:9:/Jelly 06.06.20 # A:10:10:/Jel 06.06.22 # A:11:11:/Jel 06.06.24 # A:12:12:/Jel 06.06.27 # S:28486:0 06.07.00 # he's using Jelly as some sort of padding? 06.07.21 # That's the beginning of my path. 06.07.36 # Jelly is a dir? 06.07.43 # Jellyfish...Early '90s band. 06.08.55 # I'm not sure why it is this format instead of a standard playlist. 06.08.56 # 1990s? 06.09.15 # Yes. 06.09.16 # he might be trying to save space 06.09.34 # by not repeating directory names 06.09.48 # google on trie 06.10.18 # The directory names are still repeated. I just clipped the beginning. 06.11.02 # The last line is the end of the file. 06.11.42 # some sort of sum? 06.12.02 # Not sure. 06.12.32 # just guessing 06.12.36 # I don't save dynamic playlists as much as I thaught I would anyway. 06.12.47 # why not? 06.13.36 # I just mix things together based on my mood at the moment. 06.13.54 # same here 06.14.07 # I just want recursive dir play 06.14.36 # play all subfolders? 06.14.59 # I just select the folder and insert. 06.15.30 # If you do this from stop, it will create a new dynamic playlist. 06.16.09 *** Alert Mode OFF 06.16.13 # yeah 06.16.30 # I want to make the play button do it automatically 06.18.20 # I am not sure why we have never been to keep playing past the last file in the directory. I guess it's assumed that nearly all playing will be from a playlist. 06.18.34 # never been able... 06.18.54 # what would you play past the last???? 06.19.18 # The next folder 06.19.26 # hmm 06.19.40 # never ocurred to me 06.19.44 # Like a CD changer. It just keeps playing. 06.19.49 # hmm 06.20.13 # great idea 06.20.35 # less need with dynamic playlists, but great idea 06.20.37 # I think there are problems when we don't use a playlist. 06.22.05 # It would have to read directories in the background. Is that any more complicated than reading a playlist? 06.22.17 # i dunno 06.22.42 # well, yes, it's more complocated 06.22.49 # but not by too much 06.23.17 # Then that's why we do most playing from playlists, I guess. 06.23.56 # or nobody thought of it 06.24.08 # submit a request for it 06.24.52 # I'm used to using playlists now. 06.25.30 # yeah 06.25.58 # Have you ever tried reading the FAT? 06.26.25 # The only tine I've looked at the FAT on a hard drive is for file recovery. 06.26.56 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 06.27.13 # reading the fat? not for years 06.27.18 # earHurts tried the flash rockbox? 06.27.23 # yup 06.27.30 # it works? 06.27.30 # works flawlessly 06.27.32 # fast? 06.27.35 # yup 06.27.45 # on the fm to load rockbox from disk takes like 15 seconds 06.27.46 # ~4 seconds 06.27.49 # now what does it take? 06.27.51 # neat o! 06.28.05 # about 7 with a rolo 06.28.11 # and what fujitsu drive did you put in? 06.28.54 # I started mine in synch with the one in the video. it starts playing when the video ends (About 6 seconds or so. No rolo 06.29.06 # video? 06.29.13 # where video? 06.29.26 # um. the 60 with low noise 06.29.36 # 60 with low noise 06.29.59 # polly wanna cracker? 06.30.08 # Yes the original video that demonstrates Rockbox in ROM. The infamous 3 second start. 06.30.38 # hey, it's compressed video :) 06.30.57 # DivX, I think. 06.31.10 # well lol earhurts 06.31.15 # compressed video - 06.31.19 # all you said before was fujitsu the quite one 06.31.27 # that doesn't say size or model or even type 06.31.33 # faster 06.31.36 # where is the video 06.31.37 # :D 06.31.48 # joke 06.32.06 # video is a joke? 06.32.30 # http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/rockbox_flash_boot.avi 06.32.48 # no, "compressed video" joke was, it was compressed so it seemed faster, thus 3 seconds 06.32.54 # Message at http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-07/0151.shtml 06.33.03 # oh lolol 06.33.44 # It was faster because the code wasn't finished yet. 06.33.59 # cooool 06.34.49 # The unit in the video has a hardware mod. 06.36.06 # where's hardeep's playlist? 06.36.31 # ok. 06.36.47 # nice quick boot 06.37.29 # The one I clipped from is in .rockbox. 06.37.44 # ah. .playlist-control 06.37.54 # it's amazing how one guy suggested putting rockbox in rom for faster loading, and now it's a huge breakthrough,a dn all that 06.38.32 # yup 06.38.41 # I wander why they haven't mentioned it in the news on the front page? 06.38.43 # one end user 06.38.57 # and now everyone's like ROMBOX wow it flahses and all that 06.40.26 # so wait one question 06.40.36 # and please don't tell me to read the manual :) 06.40.46 # I'm just glad we can do it. I just assumed it was impossible. 06.41.06 # does the "flash rockbox" look on hard drive immediately for a rockbox instead of archos' delay? 06.41.12 # tpelliot: me too 06.41.22 # i though, hah! rewrite the flash! in your dreams 06.41.44 Quit Schnueff_ (Remote closed the connection) 06.42.19 # I still looks for the file ajbrec.ajz 06.42.25 Join Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 06.42.35 # or something like that. 06.42.38 # lol 06.42.42 # :D 06.42.59 # it does it much faster than archos 06.43.13 # i know what could be even quicker 06.43.17 # rolo boot is "~7 06.43.47 # You don't need to rolo to start rockbox so there's no need for that file. 06.44.02 # just make a directory .rockbox\flash and put in the flash rewriter and a AJZ file and it will write that file in there to ROM and it will NOT spinup hard drive to look for ajz files ever 06.44.26 # timed it. 06.44.32 # 10 secs 06.45.07 # No need to read a file into rom every time. 06.45.20 # NONONO 06.45.26 # only if you want to upgrade it 06.45.32 # then you run it with new ajz file 06.46.03 # eventually, rombox won't even look for a file to auto rolo 06.46.29 # You can't load an ajz file. You have to descramble it, then compress it to rockbox.ucl 06.46.37 # whatever 06.47.10 # you could put descrambled images on disk 06.47.33 # scrambling was only ever to satisfy the archos loader 06.47.46 # skip the descramble step 06.47.48 # ok. 06.48.20 # You still want the compression. 06.48.28 # sure 06.48.41 # but only if I want to flash it 06.48.57 # for rolo I want unscrambled, uncompressed 06.49.31 # True. 06.49.52 # and I get a slightly faster rolo 06.50.21 # The goal is to not rolo at all. 06.50.34 # well, no 06.50.41 # yes earhurts 06.50.47 # I still want to rolo my dev builds 06.50.54 # the goal i think is to run rockbox fully from flash so there is near no loading time 06.51.04 # you CAN but that's not what's INTENDED 06.51.29 # it would be a pita to flash every dev build 06.51.58 # uhm 06.52.05 # you can rolo i presume 06.52.12 # It's easy to flash daily builds if you want. It's manual instead of automatic. 06.52.13 # but i repeat it's not what is intended 06.52.32 # we have different needs 06.52.39 # I'm a hacker 06.52.42 # You can rolo but they are going to take out the auto-rolo 06.53.12 # yeah, I,m ok with auto rolo going away 06.53.19 # I'm a hacker wannabe :) 06.53.31 # i'm not and i don't care :) 06.53.43 # I might want a swtting, though 06.54.26 # midk, without hackers, who gives you features? 06.54.32 # I just flash daily builds and I feel like a hacker :) 06.54.37 # erm 06.54.41 # i didnt mean that 06.54.44 # :P 06.54.53 # tp, that's cause it's still bleedibg edge 06.56.08 # BYE THEN 06.56.30 Quit midknight2k3 ("mr. mean! i mean mr. earhurts - does your earhurt? -=SysReset 2.53=-") 06.56.48 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 06.56.51 # I'm mean? 06.56.54 # MY EAR HURTS! BOO HOO! 06.56.56 Quit midknight2k3 (Client Quit) 06.57.02 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 06.57.10 # it hurts really bad - bye 06.57.14 # :) 06.57.16 Quit midknight2k3 (Client Quit) 06.59.11 # Does the FM play through a reciever's spdif digital input? 07.03.33 # I don't think the FM has digital i/o 07.03.39 # I might be wrong though 07.03.40 # fm doesn't have digital out 07.03.58 # thu, want to help me test emusic? 07.04.03 # mmkay 07.04.21 # what do you have in mind? 07.04.25 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 07.04.25 # * thu playing with QNX 07.04.46 # tpe wants to know if they have digital sigs 07.05.07 # so we both d/l the same track, and md5 sum it 07.05.18 # hmm 07.05.19 # done 07.05.23 # what track? 07.05.28 # I'm sure if they are posted in newsgroups, they can tell the file came from emusic. 07.05.47 # oh, probably 07.05.53 # tpelliott: that's not a problem as long as it doesn't say it came from me 07.06.03 # True. 07.06.13 # tpelliott: they have my CC details and all.. I don't want them angry :) 07.06.35 # There may a code tied to your account. 07.06.43 # okay let's see 07.06.50 # earHurts: what traaaack? 07.06.57 # there is a UFID tag 07.07.29 # artist: otto klemperer 07.07.54 # wagner lohrngrin 07.07.57 # It sucks that the FM dosen't have a digital out. Mu recorder sounds great through my reciever. 07.08.02 # track one 07.08.03 # my 07.08.17 # it sucks they advertise that it does 07.08.32 # Yes. 07.10.32 Quit thu (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.10.39 # The recorder has a single stereo mini jack. One side is for input, the other side is for output. 07.11.27 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 07.11.31 # at least the fm is lighter 07.11.57 # Do you use the fm tuner? 07.12.03 # mm wrong button 07.12.17 # * thu stretched and hit the power bar button 07.12.47 # earHurts: so is there an user id tag in the emusic mp3s or not? 07.13.21 # what md5 did you get? 07.13.31 # what track? 07.13.39 # It probably wouldn't be a regular tag. Too easy to delete. 07.14.08 # earHurts: what traaaack? 07.14.17 # :-\ 07.14.37 # sec 07.15.15 # ... 07.15.38 # www.emusic.com/cd/10786/10786579.html 07.15.49 # first track 07.15.52 # k 07.16.03 # atto primo: preludio 07.16.21 # downloading 07.17.41 # the techical quality suxors 07.17.49 # that otto guy looks borgish 07.17.59 # definitely recorded before a live audience 07.18.10 # ab791f2bf1cc2e64616f5135d652cb91 01 - Atto Primo: Preludio.mp3 07.18.13 # german 07.18.19 # paste yer sum 07.18.58 # they're the same 07.19.08 # you sure? 07.19.08 # I checked by eye 07.19.12 # yeah 07.19.14 # paste 07.19.19 # read the whole thing 07.19.40 # it's on my computer. I can't paste it 07.20.00 # I irc on my handheld 07.20.08 # weird 07.20.14 # why would you do that? 07.20.30 # I did that too but only when I didn't have a choice 07.20.32 # gaim ain't stable on w2k 07.20.45 # anyway, I prefer it 07.20.46 # what do you need gaim for? 07.20.58 # mirc costs money 07.21.01 # xchat.org 07.21.08 # yeah? 07.21.09 # the windows client works just fine 07.21.18 # I like my handheld 07.21.24 # I'm usint Trillian. 07.21.34 # uaing 07.21.34 # don't like trillian 07.21.35 # I irc from the bathtub 07.21.44 # hehe 07.22.00 # I like to soak my feet 07.22.03 # a waterproof tablet would be good for that 07.22.43 # I was looking at this rugged laptop on ebay 07.22.49 # I lost the bottom two pixel lines of a palm pilot once 07.22.55 # toilet 07.22.58 # p133 64ram 2G drive 07.23.03 # for something like $30 07.23.07 # you can drive a truck over it 07.23.22 # waterprrof? 07.23.26 # possibly 07.23.29 # some are 07.23.33 # but more like splash proof 07.24.17 # if it's waterproof that little hole of the hdd that says 'do not cover' is covered 07.24.30 # so no taking it onna airplane 07.24.42 # how come? 07.24.52 # what hole and how can they know? 07.25.01 # the hole's to equalize air pressure 07.25.09 # mm I see 07.25.49 # to equalize air pressure from where? 07.26.01 # or between where rathr 07.26.06 # rather rather 07.26.23 # How old are you guys (Just curious)? I'm 39. 07.26.31 # inside the drive and outside 07.26.33 # i'm 22 07.26.39 # earHurts: which outside? 07.26.43 # 34, 07.26.44 # just outside the drive? 07.26.52 # or outside the whole unit the drive is in? 07.26.55 # yeah 07.26.58 # the drive 07.27.08 # so the unit could still be sealed, couldn't it? 07.27.40 # yeah, if it wouldn't buckle when thje outside pressure dropped 07.28.03 # ah, well yeah 07.28.03 # heh 07.28.12 # tpe's /old/ 07.28.31 # feels good not to be the oldest! 07.28.43 # mm ebay looks good today 07.28.45 # lotsa cheap stuff 07.29.04 # I just spent $48 on old cds 07.29.22 # Who's the oldest of the main Rockbox programmers? 07.29.23 # scsi storage array with 10 18G 10k rpm drives 07.29.31 # < $200 07.29.37 # dunno' tpe 07.30.04 # anybody like gilbert & sullivan? 07.30.20 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 07.30.27 # :D 07.31.13 # Not me. I'm listening to the Beatles. I'm sure you guys think their music is too old. 07.31.27 # Yes, ma'am 07.31.31 # beatles were cool 07.31.43 # until they got into the drugs 07.32.01 # earHurts was cool 07.32.04 # until he got mean 07.32.08 # oh, that was ny driving instructor's opinion 07.32.17 # John wrote some of his best wierd lyrics on drugs. 07.32.18 # no, I like the beatles 07.32.35 # John was a great lyricist 07.32.48 # but I'm more a Bob Dylan fan 07.33.00 # Arlo Githrie, Woody 07.33.05 # Phil Ochs 07.33.11 # hippie shit 07.33.17 # I like Dylan best when someone else sings his songs. 07.33.24 # oh, no 07.33.38 # Dylan sings feom his soul, maaan 07.33.46 # True. 07.33.57 # I also like opera 07.34.21 # wagner and g&s, mostly 07.34.27 # I don't like opera. I like some jazz and classical. 07.34.44 # yeah, jazz is cool 07.34.52 # I prefer older jazz 07.35.25 # experimental jazz is techically profficient, but it doesn't move me 07.35.30 # Vocal jazz like Lambert, Hendricks and Ross or Ella? 07.35.46 # ella, duke, big band 07.35.55 # Cool. 07.36.12 # check out what emusic has in jazz 07.36.30 # *sigh* 07.36.55 # a college bought some monk box set on ebay for $150 07.37.07 # @9((3%3/9((3!%73 07.37.16 # s/college/colleague 07.37.30 # it was on emusic for nothing 07.38.10 # There was a short time in the early 1990's when a 07.38.30 # gregorian chant album was on the pop charts. 07.38.55 # can be relaxing 07.39.11 # must i interfere? 07.39.45 # what up midk? 07.40.01 # this is rockbox chat not emusic and beatles chat 07.40.12 # if you wanna do that could your private chat? 07.40.39 # are we preventing you from rockbox chatting, midk? 07.40.40 # I'm going to bed anyway. 07.41.09 # no 07.41.11 # sorry jeez 07.41.13 # bye 07.41.30 # night tpe 07.41.36 # Good night. 07.41.42 Part tpelliott 07.46.45 # and it's silent 07.46.59 # it's also obvious that earHurts dislikes midknight2k3 07.47.02 # my /me 07.47.07 # never mind that last thing 07.48.51 # midk, what's gotten into you? 07.49.04 # lol what? 07.49.47 # I don't dislike you. Were you being serious about my being mean to you?? 07.50.06 # no! 07.50.11 # earHurts is very nice 07.50.50 # why do I worry you're going to start talking about your precious ring? 07.51.08 # i have no idea. 07.51.10 # :D 07.51.37 # you're sounding like the Gollum in Lord of the Rings 07.52.11 # i know lol 07.52.16 # ok let's start over. 07.52.18 # it's my sidekick Samwise Gamgee who dislikes you. 07.52.22 # "Hello earHurts!" 07.52.23 # :) 07.52.47 # we just have differing uses for rolo 07.53.08 # i agree 07.53.09 # I like to test my code on the rockbox, you don't need to test code 07.53.13 # okok 07.53.19 # not yet ;) 07.53.23 # i will learn c soon 07.53.26 # i promised zagger 07.53.40 # I'll be glad to help you with it 07.54.13 # yay! 07.55.06 # download cygwin first 07.55.08 # what did you learn? 07.55.11 # you mean now? 07.55.14 # i know nothing yet 07.55.18 # well not much 07.55.57 # I learned c++ first 07.56.18 # well c++ is c with extra crap right? 07.59.18 # uh, yeah 07.59.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.59.33 # well c wouldn't be hard after that right? 07.59.34 # :) 08.00.02 # more or less 08.00.29 # when dod you learn c++ then? 08.00.40 # actually, there are some C things you get out of practice with, becuase you'd never do them in c++ 08.00.59 # yeah 08.01.19 # I took a uni class 08.01.27 # I don't like it that they teach c++ or java to people who have never programmed before 08.01.38 # actually, the besat c++ intro was a class for nonCS majors 08.01.39 # it's harder to go back to C imho 08.01.42 # good teacher 08.01.58 # * thu took the nice way around 08.02.04 # :D 08.02.07 # C is harder in some ways 08.02.14 # spectrum basic -> qbasic -> visual basic -> pascal -> C -> C++ -> java 08.02.39 # with various scripting languages along the way that I've never mastered 08.04.15 # i'll be back in a few mins ok 08.04.17 # just try to learn C 08.04.24 # I'm to bed 08.04.24 # yes hang a few tho 08.04.28 # oh well 08.04.30 # maybe later 08.04.32 # good night earhurts 08.04.35 # later 08.04.37 # sorry about the mean remark 08.04.42 # np 08.04.47 # night 08.04.49 # night 08.04.50 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection) 08.14.31 Quit midknight2k3 ("-=SysReset 2.53=-") 08.19.49 Quit Schnueff (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.19.49 NSplit sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 08.19.49 Quit Hes (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.19.49 Quit dw|gone (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.19.49 Quit adi|home (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.20.01 NHeal sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 08.20.01 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 08.20.01 NJoin dw|gone [20] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.20.01 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-104.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 08.20.01 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 08.20.27 Quit mbr (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.20.27 Quit thu (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.20.27 Quit PsycoXul (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.20.27 Quit Hes (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.20.27 Quit dw|gone (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.20.27 Quit Schnueff (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.20.27 Quit adi|home (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.20.27 Quit Stevie[FP] (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.20.27 Quit ricII|work (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.20.41 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 08.20.41 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-104.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 08.20.41 NJoin dw|gone [20] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.20.41 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 08.20.41 NJoin thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 08.20.41 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 08.20.41 NJoin Stevie[FP] [0] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) 08.20.41 NJoin PsycoXul [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-46-155.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 08.20.41 NJoin ricII|work [0] (~ricv@sticsgr-7.dsl.vianetworks.nl) 08.21.08 Quit PsycoXul (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.21.08 Quit thu (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.21.17 NJoin thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 08.21.17 NJoin PsycoXul [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-46-155.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 08.26.20 Quit mbr (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 08.26.20 NSplit sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 08.26.30 NHeal sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 08.26.30 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 08.53.52 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBDCA66.ipt.aol.com) 09.01.54 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 09.03.05 Join Lynx0 [0] (Lynx@134.95.189.59) 09.10.01 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 09.29.30 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-217.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 09.40.52 Join bobTHC [0] (~bobTHC@AMarseille-206-2-1-9.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) 09.40.57 # hi all! 09.42.14 Join adiamas [0] (~adi|home@as5300-10.216-194-24-30.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 09.47.27 # hi 09.52.26 Quit adi|home (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09.57.47 Nick adiamas is now known as adi|home (~adi|home@as5300-10.216-194-24-30.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 09.57.54 # howdy 09.57.57 # hows life? 09.59.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.03.06 # 1 10.10.04 # neato 10.12.32 # ROMBOX! 10.12.38 # ROMBOX ROMBOX ROMBOX! 10.22.53 # ROMBOX 4-ever! 10.33.46 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB941AB.ipt.aol.com) 10.33.52 # Morning 10.33.59 # morning 10.34.33 # morning BobTHC 10.34.36 # whats the latest? 10.35.14 # rombox for FM 10.35.24 # oh right 10.35.35 # i don't understand all this flashing nonsense 10.35.37 # :-( 10.36.43 # boot speed is the only advantage 10.37.18 # kicking out the achos code from rom too 10.37.52 # yea but what if you "need" the archos firmware one day? 10.38.51 # it is always in, backuped in an another memory space, when u press F1 you always can use it 10.39.19 # oh right 10.39.30 # i have an older Recorder 10 so i don't think it will work on mine :( 10.39.30 # The only thing that keeps me from flashing is the 2 year warranty I still have on it 10.39.36 # oh right 10.39.49 # I wonder if the Archos team know about Rockbox? 10.40.20 # I'm sure they do. 10.40.22 # it's sure they know us 10.40.37 # :-) 10.40.49 # in that case why don't they supply their machines with Rockbox? 10.41.06 # they ask the permission to bjorn to include rockbox in the driver cd for the studio 10.41.07 # They probably run rockbox on their private recorders ;-) 10.41.33 # oh riight 10.41.52 # All Rockbox needs is better recording management and playlist creating then it will be spot on :-) 10.42.50 # It can create playlists 10.44.18 # yea but it can't re-arrange entries like the archos firmware 10.45.32 # track... 10.45.39 # i say this with love in my heart... 10.45.50 # if you don't stop putting in some of the feature requests that you do.. 10.45.57 # im going to hunt you down and kill you. 10.46.56 # :-| 10.47.14 # yea? 10.47.39 # like what? 10.48.29 # hello?? 10.48.46 # i've got a feature request 10.49.16 # rockbox needs a relativistic space-drive powered by quantum zero-point fluctuations (may require HW mod) 10.49.36 # adi??? 10.50.44 # adimas are u very upset now?! 10.55.47 # no... just researching in another window... 10.56.23 # ohhhh right 10.56.27 # :-) 10.56.31 # come and visit London 10.56.37 # geez 10.56.48 # am i the only one in here interested in exploring the universe? 10.56.57 # Nobody can afford a visit to London... 10.57.15 # well im sure Adimas is a rich man 10.57.18 # heh i must be 10.57.38 # track.. im so broke that im borrowing $ from friends to pay my rent 10.57.43 # PsycoXul: It's probably cheaper than London 10.57.46 # awwwww 10.57.53 # Lynx0: if done right, it should be 10.57.56 # What requests are you on about now Adi?! 10.58.08 # PsycoXul: Especially if it's open-source 10.58.30 # if you actualy power it from the zero-point fluctuations then in a sense it'd be "free", or nearly so 10.59.35 # PsycoXul: I already forgot everything I never knew about quantum mechanics 11.00.05 # Lynx0: hey thats ok, i've got no formal education on anything past 9th grade 11.00.24 # Adimas I rent out rooms you can have one if u like 11.01.07 # PsycoXul: I'm sitting in a Lab right now... 11.01.24 # Lynx0: oh yeah? 11.01.33 # what sort of lab? 11.02.03 # genetics 11.02.10 # heh 11.02.32 # Adimas im off 2 work now 11.02.40 # have a nice day :-) 11.03.02 # (-: 11.03.18 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 11.59.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.02.04 Quit thu ("Client exiting") 12.32.12 # anyone know any sites with flash in them? 12.32.17 # i need to test my plugin 12.39.31 # macromedia.com? 12.40.38 # something wrong.. can't get the plugin working... 12.40.47 # opera... hmm 12.44.54 # works fine for me, even without installing anything 12.46.51 # may have had flash installed before i got opera, though 12.54.32 # nope.. i don't have motiff installed.. thats wahy... 12.54.35 # fixing it now... 12.55.08 # im willing to bet you ahve libXm.so.2 on your system right? 12.55.34 Join _TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 12.57.09 Quit _TotMacher (Client Quit) 13.47.19 # no, windows... 13.48.58 # hehe okay.. then nm ;) 13.50.46 # It's not my fault! I have to! ;) 13.59.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.24.58 Join _TotMacher [0] (tot@ip67.rsidus.riege.de) 15.25.05 Part _TotMacher 15.59.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.30.53 Join machtenx [0] (machtenx@12-209-12-69.client.attbi.com) 16.31.25 # hey guys, i was wondering is there ever gonna be compatibility with the multimedia jukeboxs? 16.32.12 # machtenx: no. 16.32.27 # any reason why? 16.32.28 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/nodo.html 16.32.35 # it's a different machine. 16.32.54 # ahhh sorry, reading 16.33.20 # It's a mostly different project, not much code can be reused. 16.34.04 # i see...i think i'll get the fm recorder then...rockbox looks cool 16.35.25 # rockbox is a lot of fun. 16.36.52 # do you have any idea if it would work with the 15 gigabyte minijukebox? 16.37.46 # I don't know, I guess that is a new product. I think someone just mentioned it on the mailing list, check the archives, I didn't read it carefully. 16.37.55 # I have a recorder 20. 16.38.10 # I have to run to a practicing session, bye! 16.38.23 # ok thanks! later 16.39.30 # What's mini about it anyway? 16.40.12 # want a link? I saw it on outpost.com for a good price that's the only reason i was interested 16.40.35 # doesn't provide that detailed specs but http://shop1.outpost.com/product/3699265/# 16.42.22 # I wonder how they make it any smaller 16.43.31 # I think it's the same..what are the dimensions on the others? this one is 4.5x3.2x1.3 16.43.54 # I don't know... 16.44.02 # what's that in cm? 16.45.30 # hmmm one sec 16.45.31 # Uses 4 "AA" Rechargeable NiCads (included) 16.45.31 # he can't be smaller, it'sthe same 16.45.53 # 115 x 82 x 34 mm is the recorde 20 gb 16.46.25 # the description is full of mistakes 16.46.44 # put the product is really cheap 16.46.45 # 11.4x8.1x3.3 16.46.46 # ;) 16.46.47 # cm 16.46.51 # yes it is :D 16.46.56 # dirt cheap 16.47.07 # i am so tempted 16.47.13 # Available for Preorder Not available for export. 16.47.34 # i cant buy it i'm disgusted 16.47.44 # I think you can 16.47.49 # ? 16.47.52 # unless you're in another country 16.47.58 # ? 16.48.06 # i'm french :( 16.48.14 # ahhhh :( 16.48.29 # How can i keep windows from creating all the system folder on the archos? I remember a thread on the mailing list but can't find it now... 16.52.16 # ? 16.52.36 # like the 'Recycled' folder and such 16.52.40 # u want to creat .rockbox directory under win32 16.52.47 # ? 16.53.20 # ?? 16.53.39 # no, windows creates some directories on the archos when you plug it in. 16.53.44 # u cannot avoid winNT to creating his dirty dirs 16.54.22 # I remember a mail on the list that said how to do it, with the tweak ui thing... 16.56.59 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 17.04.11 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-05/0440.shtml 17.04.13 # found it 17.05.08 # bye 17.05.11 Quit Lynx0 ("So long, thanks for all the fish") 17.08.18 Quit machtenx () 17.12.20 Join Manitee [0] (~jirc@rrcs-central-65-31-67-30.biz.rr.com) 17.12.20 Quit Manitee (Remote closed the connection) 17.13.48 Join manitee [0] (~yeah@rrcs-central-65-31-67-30.biz.rr.com) 17.14.34 # hi folks - been a while since i irc'ed here, but i wanted to drop in and say v2.0 is great - no problems at all so far 17.59.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.01.02 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 18.03.59 Quit Stevie[FP] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18.08.16 Join Stevie[FreedomPa [0] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) 18.09.34 Quit manitee (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.35.02 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 18.48.57 Part tpelliott 19.00.07 # * Stevie[FreedomPa is away [f00d] [KS-MsgLog Off] 19.59.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.20.38 # * Stevie[FreedomPa is back from [f00d] [gone 1hr 20mins 32secs] [KS] 20.28.09 Nick Stevie[FreedomPa is now known as Stevie[FP] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) 20.31.37 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 20.31.52 # hello 21.00.25 # VERY lively in here, no? 21.02.30 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 21.03.26 Join freshmaker [0] (~chatzilla@pD9E1281D.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.03.46 # Hi there! 21.03.53 # hey! 21.03.57 # somebody's here! 21.04.02 # and tpelliot! 21.04.06 # both at the same time! 21.04.09 # :) 21.04.32 # i wish there would be someone at sf.net, too 21.04.47 # :D 21.04.57 # their pserver cvs server is more than two days behind 21.04.59 # who'd buy this? http://staples.com/Catalog/Browse/sku.asp?PageType=1&Sku=IM1189002&bcFlag=True&bcSCatId=3&bcSCatName=Technology&bcCatId=18&bcCatName=Computer+Peripherals&bcDeptId=1431&bcDeptName=Mice+%26+Keyboards&bcClassId=141981&bcClassName=Corded+Keyboards 21.05.20 # it's ugly and it's $137 21.05.28 # check that, 137.99 21.06.50 # can't get the url 21.07.10 # well it's VERY UGLY keyboard 21.07.14 # for $137 21.07.19 # just dowble click it 21.07.25 # it should go 21.07.34 # everything with mor than 60 keys makes me afraid 21.07.42 # i bet :D 21.08.04 # got one of the older happy hacking keyboards 21.08.14 # with how many keys? 21.08.22 # 60 ;-) 21.08.28 # crap 21.08.38 # i had the key alert message already typed out :) 21.10.34 # who's bored? 21.10.42 # since earHurts isn't here, it's dead! 21.12.03 # I used to see mice with buttons all over the top. 21.12.17 # you did? 21.12.27 # I'm on vacation this week. 21.12.53 # yay! 21.13.17 # I can't believe how cheap cordless optical mice are getting. 21.13.48 # yes it's amazing? 21.14.02 # take into consideration the Microsoft Cordless Blue Optical Mouse 21.14.16 # just think... 5 years ago there were only 2 button corded mouse-ball ones 21.14.30 # in 2006 i predict there will be blu-ray mice :D 21.14.57 # with 5 sensors for accuracy of a ... something that's extremely accurate 21.15.30 # I have the older Logitech cordless duo. I love the new Logitech cordless mouse with a charger stand. 21.16.00 # cordless duo, my favorite 21.16.10 # the one that's black and it's got the wheel at the top center? 21.16.17 # Is that what yopu have? 21.16.21 # no 21.16.35 # today i should be getting a microsoft natural multimedia keyboard 21.16.41 # why can't they just give them model numbes? 21.16.47 # it's so hard to remember the terms 21.17.02 # Yes. Mine has function keys that ARE function keys. 21.17.12 # er? 21.17.17 # the wheel one? 21.17.45 # the logitech elite keyboard also looks nice though 21.17.52 # i am considering it 21.17.58 # The new version has extra functions on the function keys. You have to press a button to get your regular function keys back. 21.18.35 # yeah 21.18.58 # actually, you press a button to enable the functions on them (extra) otherwise it is normal f keys 21.19.06 # not the other way around 21.19.25 # The new version is the same price as mine $100. I got mine on sale $20 cheaper. 21.19.43 # which version? 21.19.51 # im confused now :\ 21.20.01 # the logitech duo thing 21.20.04 # ? 21.20.13 # Mine is the original. 21.20.29 # the new elite one is new though 21.20.34 # the neat one 21.20.38 # with the whooel 21.20.44 # WHELL 21.20.48 # grrrr! 21.20.53 # W-H-E-E-L 21.20.59 # i spelled it! yay! 21.21.13 # A friend of mine wanted to press F8 to agree to Microsoft's agreement. and he had to press an extra button. Must be a toggle. 21.21.38 # yeah 21.21.55 # maybe before hand it had been specified to use extra f's 21.22.05 # Mine is black, with the wheel but WITHOUT the extra functions of the function keys. 21.22.11 # normally it should use the regualr F keys 21.22.17 # ...right :) 21.23.17 # Do you have a working, flashed FM? 21.23.30 # not I. 21.23.35 # im doing it later today 21.23.40 # you do it yet? 21.23.46 # Did you see the new warning? 21.23.50 # no 21.23.51 # what is it? 21.23.54 # uh oh 21.24.06 # Check your harware mask. 21.24.18 # for? 21.24.23 # where is this warning located? 21.24.27 # Read the latest posts. 21.24.35 # on the mailing list? 21.24.42 # Yes. 21.25.08 # oh jeez 21.25.12 # you can't miss it lol 21.25.30 # Mine flashed with no problem. I've been flashing daily builds too. I have a Recorder 20 21.26.00 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBDC0AD.ipt.aol.com) 21.26.06 # hello 21.26.07 # :) 21.26.20 # We are talking about the new FM warning. 21.26.28 # hello midknight 21.26.29 # yes 21.26.32 # tracktheripper 21.26.35 # is mean! 21.26.36 # hi mate! 21.26.45 # what do u mean im mean?! 21.26.49 # he called me something mean 21.26.53 # gonna put dinner on brb 21.26.55 # when i put in my bogus request 21.27.27 # i hope mine doesn't have that new hardware mask 21.27.34 # if it does, i'd be yelling 21.27.49 # come back at like 4:00 to watch me yell about the dumb mask 21.27.52 # Can't you check the debug info? 21.27.59 # yes 21.28.01 # i will later 21.28.17 # and if it has that i will be angry 21.28.23 # come back in 4 hours to see :D 21.28.53 # Can you solder well enough to do the hardware mod if you have to? 21.29.22 # let's not think about that yet :) 21.29.57 # I have you to open mine for the first time. 21.30.05 # yet 21.30.15 # i tried a while back 21.30.21 # (fm recorder) 21.30.27 # i didn't figure it out 21.30.41 # it would be easy if i tried but i just took out some screws and nothing happened 21.31.17 # The 4 star screwes? 21.31.30 # i think i just didn't get the bottom one out 21.31.31 # Midknight is this a reasonable request? 21.31.32 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439121&aid=771276 21.31.39 # i suppose yes 21.31.58 # TOO reasonable 21.32.00 # you crapper 21.32.03 # :) 21.32.07 # make a new one, i did 21.32.14 # lol 21.33.05 # lol ur request got the usual "This is not possible to implement, due to hardware limitations" response 21.33.19 # im GLAD 21.33.40 # i thought he'd ban me 21.33.47 # but he took it seriously 21.33.49 # that response becomes scary if you see it too many times 21.34.04 # you do one IDIOT' 21.34.08 # i did that one 21.34.27 # did you see his comment on the usb-digital pirate port? 21.34.32 # yes 21.34.36 # "Stop playing with the request tracker, boys" 21.34.41 # or something 21.34.43 # and im NOT sending any more requests :-) 21.34.44 # you do a good one now 21.34.47 # you better 21.35.13 # nah its alright 21.35.26 # Adimas said he will murder me if I send one more 21.35.33 # DO IT! 21.35.44 # tracktheri[[er sucks 21.35.53 # lol 21.35.54 # :-) 21.35.59 # sriously 21.36.03 # seriosly 21.36.15 # SERIOUSLY 21.36.23 # :D 21.36.32 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 21.36.36 # you think it's funny you're not my friend any... 21.36.38 # he left. 21.36.43 # oh well 21.36.46 Join JT1 [0] (jirc@ACBDC0AD.ipt.aol.com) 21.36.52 # fm recorder flashing can resume talking 21.37.19 # *JT1 is glad he smells 21.37.21 # Do you listen to the radio much? 21.37.26 # not that often 21.37.29 # but once in a while 21.38.04 # Os the reception any better than other portable radios? 21.38.06 Quit JT1 (Client Quit) 21.38.14 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBDC0AD.ipt.aol.com) 21.38.17 # erm 21.38.19 # it's average 21.38.25 # outdoors, i'd say "good" 21.38.31 # indoors, it's ok 21.38.38 # it's listen-to-able :) 21.38.44 # sorry 21.38.50 # oh 21.38.51 # JT 21.38.54 # i see now 21.38.57 # :D 21.39.01 # you still suck :( 21.39.04 # im very upset 21.39.09 # really upset 21.39.12 # why? 21.39.21 # because u are being rude to me 21.39.27 # sorry sorry 21.39.30 # ok 21.39.34 # i apologize 21.39.49 # ok i forgive u 21.40.03 # i hope so >:( 21.40.10 # i don't wanna keep pissing off Bjorn and co 21.40.19 # you're done then? 21.40.39 # well for the time being 21.40.46 # just one last one - a bug request "Let me stop bugging Bjorn and Co" 21.40.48 # :) 21.40.59 # never mind 21.41.30 # Adimas was going bananas at me 21.41.31 # :-( 21.41.42 # I’m cool! 21.41.42 # I suck! 21.41.42 # really? 21.41.50 # :D 21.42.16 # The one feature I'm witing for is a charging screen. That would free us once and for all from Archos firmware. 21.42.32 # of course I suck, I suck Pepsi through a straw at Mcdonalds :D 21.42.50 # yes 21.42.51 # :D 21.43.03 # oh yeah 21.43.04 # Pepsi? They only have Coke here. 21.43.08 # I KNOW HOW THEY COULD DO IT! 21.43.18 # Midknight, don't make me hit you :D 21.43.42 # A little rockbox logo, under that a big battery thing showing a charging animation and next to it the percent it is it 21.43.43 # at 21.43.48 # uhm 21.43.53 # it was tpelliot who said that 21.43.55 # :P 21.44.18 # you must now apologize 21.44.28 # ok ok midknighty im sorry 21.44.30 # you accuse me of saying what tpelliot did 21.44.30 # I was referring to McDonalds. 21.44.35 # that's not good enoigj 21.44.38 # yes 21.44.46 # i want a better apology 21.44.58 # :( 21.45.04 # ok ok ok your majesty sir Midknight im very sorry your highness 21.45.07 Quit freshmaker ("ChatZilla 0.8.31 [Mozilla rv:1.4/20030701]") 21.45.14 # thank you 21.51.36 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 21.51.58 Part tpelliott 21.59.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.18.53 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9512965.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.20.13 # yay! 22.20.16 # it's him! 22.20.29 # i sure hope that i don't have the 504 mask or whatever though :/ 22.20.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm deeple scared about that one guy. 22.21.06 # i bet 22.21.21 # 504 mask? 22.21.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> Especially, because I still think this is just impossible. 22.21.42 # the hardware mask that sometimes makes rombox flash wrong 22.21.55 # latest message in the mailing list 22.21.57 # that's a, erm, feature 22.21.59 # one of the latest 22.22.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes, he has 0x0504 mask, that's why I posted that warning. 22.22.17 # it still seems to work for others 22.22.23 # <[IDC]Dragon> But for at least another guy with the same mask it worked. 22.22.26 # perhaps that guy just didn't hold down the button? 22.22.29 # yeah 22.22.31 # odd 22.22.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> He did. 22.22.45 # hmm 22.22.55 # are you still including some random copy of the OS with rombox? 22.23.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> I hope the boy is in a crash state, and taking out the battery fixes it. 22.23.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> box, I mean. 22.23.30 # oh lol 22.23.44 # Dragon, do you have a link to the page with the uart boot mod? 22.23.49 # i couldn't find it anywhere 22.24.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> the posting, you mean? 22.24.10 # you say in the readme 22.24.17 # you can recover with the uart boot mod 22.24.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes. 22.24.37 # i just wanted to see what it "is" 22.24.43 # is there a page that says how? 22.24.47 # <[IDC]Dragon> hang on... 22.25.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-06/0287.shtml 22.25.24 # thanks 22.25.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> and the link within. 22.27.20 # [IDC]Dragon: are you still including some random copy of the OS with rombox? 22.27.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> random copy? 22.28.42 # dragon: can you do the uart boot mod on the fmrecorder? 22.28.49 # or is it only possible for recorders? 22.28.56 # [IDC]Dragon: yeah, whatever copy you had on hand 22.29.09 # <[IDC]Dragon> Haven't looked into one yet, but theoretically, yes. 22.29.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> Stevie: I used the latest from cvs. 22.29.48 # the archos firmware image isn't in CVS 22.29.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> I thought it's a good idea to include exactly the one I tested with. 22.30.04 # ...mkay 22.30.08 # are you at least preserving the hardware mask? 22.30.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> Shure. 22.30.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> Otherwise, it would be a mess. 22.30.41 # no kidding 22.31.09 # * Stevie[FP] wonders wtf is wrong with this stupid thing 22.31.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> You can update the rockbox flash image right away, if you like. 22.31.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> The broken one? 22.31.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> or what thing? 22.32.02 # this driver 22.32.07 # its like 22.32.13 # not terminating correctly, or something 22.33.06 # i have the 504 mask! 22.33.08 # nooo! 22.33.10 # grr! 22.33.27 # <[IDC]Dragon> I don't think that's a problem. 22.33.34 # really? 22.33.43 # it seems to work for most others 22.34.03 # * Stevie[FP] wonders if softice can debug a kernel over a serial port 22.34.17 # * midknight2k3 wonders what that means 22.34.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> Stevie: yes, I think so. 22.34.45 # i must go now 22.34.47 # goodbye 22.34.51 # * Stevie[FP] finds his copy of softice 22.34.57 # and thank you for rombox :D 22.34.57 # because WinDbg is utter CRAP 22.35.00 # <[IDC]Dragon> bye 22.35.03 Quit midknight2k3 ("-=SysReset 2.53=-") 22.35.39 # i mean 22.35.47 # utter, utter, UTTER crap 22.36.00 Join TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.204.94.209) 22.36.03 # hoi 22.36.11 # great work Dragon 22.36.22 # on the rb in flash 22.36.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> thanks, but a bit clouded today. 22.36.32 # just flashed my FM 22.36.36 # yes I know 22.36.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> which mask (shiver)? 22.36.46 # everything works like a charm 22.36.52 # 304 22.37.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> seems the more common one. 22.37.13 # except when I plug the usb in while its off 22.37.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> haven't tried that. 22.37.46 # then it boots and just hangs at the splash screen with the loading splash box 22.38.11 # but if I boot it up and then plug it in 22.38.11 # its ok 22.38.37 # <[IDC]Dragon> it booted because you plugged in, or because you pressed on? 22.38.48 # because I plug it in 22.39.00 # but then it freezes 22.39.02 # or hangs 22.39.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> interesting. 22.39.20 # what that it boots or that it hangs 22.39.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> that it boots. 22.40.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> and in consequence, the hang. 22.40.26 # yeah 22.40.40 Join _aLF [0] (~alex@AGrenoble-203-1-20-69.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.40.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> my recorder doesn't start by plugging USB. 22.41.04 # <_aLF> hi 22.41.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> must be an FM feature 22.41.07 # maybe only the fms do that 22.41.08 # ya 22.41.10 # ywa 22.41.13 # dang 22.41.16 # yea 22.41.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> However, that's an issue which Rockbox can fix later on. 22.42.03 # maybe we could check if it was just plugged in 22.42.12 # hmm 22.42.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> It's just that we have to discover these init details. 22.42.26 # yes 22.42.31 # I was just thinkin 22.43.02 # that we wouldn'T need what I was just sayin 22.43.31 # could it be 22.43.41 # that now we have rb controlling the unit totally 22.43.55 # that we could play music with the unit connected 22.44.15 # in usb 22.44.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> no, the disk is either "owned" by USB or by the box. 22.45.08 # [IDC]Dragon 22.45.49 # since the fm's LiIon charging is controlled by a chip, it's able to charge itself [very slowly I might add] using power from the USB hub 22.46.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> maybe, is that so? 22.46.26 # that is so 22.46.46 # thus, the usb power is wired into the circuit 22.46.54 # and when you plug in usb 22.47.13 # it forces the FM on, just like plugging in the charger does 22.47.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> OK. 22.47.59 # the power floods the MOFSET, forcing it on 22.48.31 # the MOSFET even 22.49.40 # its kinda funny 22.49.51 # because my lil PCMCIA usb 2.0 card can't supply a lot of power 22.50.24 # so when I plug in USB, the lil plug icon Rockbox has blinks slowly 22.50.33 # cuz it has power, then it doesn't, then it does... 22.51.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> Indeed funny. 22.54.32 # ok 22.54.37 # where tf did I stuff softice 22.57.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> Goodnight! 22.57.22 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 22.58.17 Quit Stevie[FP] (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.02.45 Quit TBoy ("Bye guys") 23.09.12 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBA3235.ipt.aol.com) 23.09.25 # hello 23.10.55 Join Stevie[FreedomPa [0] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) 23.17.05 # hello Stevie 23.17.40 # Somethings don't make sense. The Archos uses the type A USB socket like on a PC and yet it is a slave?! I thought the Type A is the Master and the Type B Square socket is the slave 23.18.07 # tracktheripper: rules like that are made to be bent 8-) 23.18.23 # bending that rule seems common enough that A-A cables are easy to buy. 23.18.28 # the socket type has nothing to do with slave or master 23.18.50 # A-A cables are rare as rocking horse shit in London 23.18.53 # uhm 23.19.02 # i dunno about you 23.19.09 # but my FM's connector looks NOTHING like that of a PC 23.19.10 # I think the original spec or idea was that slaves would have B connectors so that end-users (TM) would know what can be connected where... 23.19.16 # my FM's actually uses the same as a digital camera I have 23.19.23 # and I use the digicam cable cuz it's longer 23.19.27 # but that is still the "slave" socket 23.19.28 # FM has a different connector then. 23.19.36 # fm has a teeny little one 23.19.36 # yea 23.20.02 # I think thats why everyone hammers the Archos tech support asking if the Recorder can download digital camera images on-the-fly 23.20.35 # oh yeah Adimas sorry for upsetting you 23.21.28 # u got me worried this morning! 23.21.33 # i was really nervous! 23.23.20 # Adiamas you there?! 23.27.23 # hmm? what? 23.27.31 # you frightened me this morning 23.27.43 # bah.. no worries... 23.27.57 # just gets tiresome having to filter some of the 'requests' you put in :) 23.27.58 # :-( 23.28.09 # that last request I sent in, I sent it in because I was bored 23.29.59 # the "Braille font for Blind Users" 23.37.48 # hmm 23.37.51 Nick Stevie[FreedomPa is now known as Stevie[FP] (~whatsit2u@65.114.136.196) 23.38.00 # i ping out if i'm in softice 23.38.01 # :( 23.45.46 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 23.49.54 # :0: 23.49.54 # * ^Subject:.*Music preferences.* 23.49.54 # /dev/null 23.50.29 # (I hereby release the above piece of software under the GPL, v2 or later, at your preference) 23.50.34 # hahaha 23.50.41 # killfile for? 23.50.46 # procmail 23.50.56 # whats it kill? 23.51.33 # the * line is a regular expression against the headers... /dev/null is the mailbox file where the mail matching the rule will be written 23.51.45 # that I got :P 23.51.50 # I don't know what email you got that matches that 23.52.47 # a few on the rockbox list recently 23.53.11 # ah. 23.54.24 # I sees a lengthy discussion coming on the list, very similar to quite a few mailing list discussions I've seen before 23.55.03 # one off-topic post and then a hundred about what is off-topic for the list and what is not, and why 8-) 23.56.01 # heh 23.56.16 # the metadiscussion is going to be even more offtopic than the original posts... 8-) 23.56.28 # that last request I sent in, I sent it in because I was bored 23.56.28 # the "Braille font for Blind Users" 23.56.31 # err 23.56.32 # ewps 23.56.39 # Receiving: message 99 of 216 23.56.40 # christ 23.56.59 # it wasn't even a lot of spam 23.57.19 # Hes, I invite you to forget about the damn list and help me write this stupid driver :P 23.57.57 # the volume _is_ getting high, probably will have to sort out to a similar filter I used on linux-kernel when I used to read that - only pass posts from known-to-be-interesting-and-on-topic people 8-) 23.58.20 # lkml was a bitch, mostly cuz of its tendency to spawn ide-vs-scsi wars