--- Log for 17.07.103 Server: sterling.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 13 days and 14 hours ago 00.00.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.15.39 Quit _aLF ("bye") 00.17.27 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@AC9E3BB5.ipt.aol.com) 00.28.43 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 00.31.57 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m232.net195-132-84.noos.fr) 00.32.00 # hi ! 00.33.37 # hi 00.34.09 # Can you believe people are still trying to run DOOM?!!? LOL 00.34.23 # :-) 00.34.34 # mouhaha :) 00.34.36 # best hoax ever 00.34.43 # we should make a flashable version :-) 00.35.12 # hey linus 00.35.24 # yo 00.35.45 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 00.35.45 # * LinusN goes for a glass of Coke 00.36.15 # i don't think that rockbox_flash.c should be made when building the windows sim you get a nasty error, plus the plugin wouldn't do anything anyway 00.38.00 # hehe 00.40.25 # rite LinusN! 00.47.17 Quit edx (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.47.17 NSplit sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.47.17 Quit mbr (sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 00.47.50 # i think i'm in trouble 00.48.12 # why? 00.48.20 NHeal sterling.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 00.48.20 NJoin edx [0] (edx@pD9EA9BD9.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.48.20 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 00.48.47 # hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error } 00.48.48 # hda: read_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=3967800, sector=2409488 00.48.48 # end_request: I/O error, cmd 0 dev 03:03 (hda), sector 2409488 00.49.10 # ouch 00.49.47 # now what the heck is that? ;) 00.50.08 # diddystar5: my linux saying my drive is fucked :) 00.50.46 # mmm k 00.52.14 # thanks for fixing that linus! 00.52.28 # you're welcome 00.53.48 # * diddystar5 is outa here 00.53.52 Quit diddystar5 ("Gotta Go!") 00.56.10 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 00.59.18 Quit edx () 01.03.14 Join BlackMountainCow [0] (~Christian@p5084434C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.03.21 # hi all! 01.03.24 # hi 01.03.33 # wow, the master himself! 01.03.38 # who? 01.03.45 # u! 01.03.49 # :-) 01.03.59 # amazing job dude! 01.04.20 # thanks 01.04.26 # i got just one short question ... 01.04.33 # if u don't mind 01.04.40 # shoot 01.05.16 # will seamless play ever be able on the rockbox? cause i'm listening to a lot of amiga tunes converted to mp3s and they r supposed to loop without gap to sound good 01.05.37 # and i didn't find anything in FAQ or mailinglist 01.05.40 # seamless play have been working on rockbox for ages 01.05.47 # what? 01.05.48 # how? 01.06.01 # you have to take care when you encode the mp3's 01.06.18 # u mean delete silence at end and start? 01.06.24 # not only that 01.06.36 # my ears r wide open ... 01.07.12 # if you really want seamless playback you have two options: 01.07.39 # 1) Join the WAV files into one huge WAV, encode it and split the mp3 file afterwards 01.08.02 # 2) Encode all WAV's at once with LAME using the --nogap option 01.08.15 # jesus 01.08.27 # what does the --nogap option do ? 01.08.31 # wonder y i never thought of the no gap option 01.09.15 # BoD[]: LAME adds empty samples at the start and end of the tracks, but --nogap prevents that 01.09.31 # ah ok :) strange 01.09.40 # why isn't it the default 01.10.00 # so if i have one file that i want to loop wihout gap the nogap will work, right? 01.10.17 # because the first samples will not be accurately played when the file is played standalone 01.10.28 # ah, ic 01.10.51 # not accurately ? 01.11.04 # BlackMountainCow: well, if you want the file to loop by itself, you might have to fool LAME a little 01.11.18 # fool lame = :-) 01.11.24 # ahh :) 01.11.32 # how can i fool lame? 01.11.48 # encode 3 identical copies of the same file and keep the middle one 01.12.02 # * LinusN is guessing here 01.12.11 # u're a smart ass dude ... nice idea 01.12.23 # i hope the file is small :-) 01.12.32 # but you need an mp3 editing tool to cut it ? 01.12.36 # yeah, like 1.5 mb as WAV 01.13.04 # to max 7 mb as wav 01.13.25 # blackmountaincow : what do you use to convert .mod => wav ? 01.13.31 # cp myfile myfile1.wav 01.13.33 # cp myfile myfile2.wav 01.13.34 # cp myfile myfile3.wav 01.13.53 # lame --nogap myfile1.wav myfile2.wav myfile3.wav 01.13.54 # deliplayer 01.13.55 # (sort of) 01.14.09 # haven't done it myself 01.14.11 # cp = ? 01.14.24 # ok 01.14.43 # cp == copy (linus style) 01.14.45 # linux 01.14.46 # BoD: deliplayer is the best free player for any old amiga / c64 / whatever tunes imo 01.14.54 # Linus: hehe, i c 01.15.01 # blackmountain : i use Modplay :) i like it 01.15.13 # doesn't play sid files though 01.15.33 # BoD: had that one before, but deliplayer has WAY more players build in. i guess round 270 now ... 01.15.39 # BoD: sid as well 01.16.02 # well I like the "sound quality" of modplug 01.16.12 # Linus: if that works u put a big shine of light into my life :-D 01.16.20 # but maybe deliplayr has that too :) 01.16.33 # BlackMountainCow: let me know how it works out 01.16.38 # BoD: deliplayer actually uses components of modplug, so the sound is the same 01.16.46 # ahhhh :) ok 01.16.53 # that figures 01.17.17 # Linus: sure! i tell u, if i ever get a credit card (what will happen next year) u're the first one to get a donation via paypal! my word on that! 01.17.27 # ahahah :) 01.17.33 # :-) 01.18.05 # gimme a minute and i'll try that! 01.18.13 # i wanted to convert my modules for a long time but never took the time to do it 01.18.22 # maybe that's the ritht time 01.18.31 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBCD267.ipt.aol.com) 01.18.40 # BoD: deliplayer has a batch function to convert all files at once = less work ;-) 01.18.41 # hello LinusN!!!!!!!! 01.18.49 # BRB 01.19.13 # blackmountaincow : thanks for the tip :) 01.19.27 # by the way ... mod don't well convert to mp3 ! 01.19.32 # tracktheripper: hi 01.19.48 # we would need a "pattern emulation" layer :) 01.20.21 # how are ya> :-) 01.20.25 # i like it when you are around 01.20.57 # Seriously LinusN You should be able to use your own pics for the Sliding Puzzle 01.20.58 # :-) 01.21.16 # BoD: well i can't hear any difference between the mod player and the mp3, those deliplayer guys do a hell of a job with emmulation and real players. go for www.deliplayer.com and see for yourself. and it's all FREE 01.21.28 # tracktheripper: sure, good idea 01.21.52 # blackmountaincow : no you didn't understand me 01.22.04 # i mean that a mp3 is linear 01.22.24 # whereas mods can have loops and gotos 01.22.27 # LinusN what you could do is designate a folder and dump your pics into that 01.22.36 # sure 01.22.46 Quit Schnueff (Remote closed the connection) 01.22.48 Join Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 01.22.56 # If it is possible would you have to resample them into 1bit images yourself? 01.23.04 # BoD: yeah, that's a prob sometimes. if the loops don't start at the beginning of the file ... u're right 01.23.05 # before placing them in the folder? 01.23.44 # blackmountaincow : i think we could code something for that :) like a special playlist format 01.24.14 # and by "we" i mean "somebody with the needed skills" ;) 01.24.20 # who came up with that canned response? 01.24.21 # tracktheripper: it would be a lot simpler if the user converts to 1-bit BMP before copying them to the folder 01.24.37 # thats what I just said LinusN 01.24.38 # :-) 01.24.55 # you can just use Paint to resample the piccies 01.25.00 # BoD: yeah, i have clues of all windows versions, but never ventured into coding ... bad thing ... 01.25.26 # Ive got batteries more powerful than 1500Mah!!! 01.25.27 # yay! 01.26.08 # blackmountaincow : i know C ..but I'm sure working on rockbox needs a lot of commitment :) 01.26.38 Quit ricII (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.28.21 Part BlackMountainCow 01.28.26 Join ricII [0] (~ricv@debianalpha.xs4all.nl) 01.28.29 Join BlackMountainCow [0] (~Christian@p5084434C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.29.32 # linusn : do you think it would be easyly implementable to have a new playing mode (in addition to repeat one/all/no repeat) ? 01.29.38 # LinusN? 01.30.10 # BoD[]: and that would be? 01.30.41 # play first track once, then second track in loop 01.31.05 # for MOD play? 01.31.08 # yes :) 01.31.30 # because some of them have this behaviour (a beginning and then loops) 01.31.48 # LinusN you could reshuffle the playlist by waiting until the buffer is empty then reshuffling it 01.32.57 # tracktheripper: but then you would have a pause in the playback 01.33.23 # well that would only be a small sacrifice that not many would notice 01.34.02 # tracktheripper: i'm sure that we can solve that without a pause 01.34.25 # solve what 01.34.29 # what i and zagor have been trying to tell you is just that is isn't all that simple 01.34.43 # oh 01.34.59 # there is a numberplate L1 NUS for sale £22,000 01.35.24 # :-) 01.35.35 # im not joking ill show u the link 01.35.40 # 22000£ ... it's like 33500 eur 01.35.46 # cheap 01.35.47 # http://www.newreg.co.uk/home/search/search_results.plate?sortby=initials&categorize=on&include=search&search_type=new&type_of_reg=Any&arrived_from=New+Search®istration=l1+nus 01.36.18 # LinusN Did u get the link? 01.37.24 # yeah, whenever i'm about to register a car in England, i'll definitely consider it :-) 01.37.44 Quit BlackMountainCow ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.37.54 # ;-) 01.38.00 # What does the N stand for? 01.38.02 # in LinusN? 01.38.54 Join BlackMountainCow [0] (~Christian@p5084434C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 01.39.00 # tracktheripper: Nielsen 01.39.15 # oh right :-) 01.39.37 # "software tuner" 01.39.39 # LMFAO!!!!!! 01.40.26 # so anyway linusn: that mod thing.. do you think it would be easy to implement ? 01.42.03 # i think so 01.42.50 # even for a newcomer in rockbox (me) ? 01.44.12 # Linus & BoD: HELL YEAH!!!!! --nogap with 3 files and keep middle + deletion of end/start silence = infinite loop without gap!!! YEAHHHHH!!!!!!!! 01.44.17 # the playlist code is not for the weak-hearted, though 01.44.32 # BlackMountainCow: rock'n'roll!!! 01.44.33 # I OWE U ONE MAN 01.44.36 # cool :)) 01.45.14 # now if u implement a feature that rockbox makes my mornign coffee the world is allright again ;-) 01.46.01 # with or without sugar? 01.46.12 # hehe, black as night 01.46.38 # BoD: if u make your mp3s keep that --nogap and silence deletion in mind. i have to redo all my mp3s now ... 01.47.21 # Linus: ahm, may I ask something else, actually 2 things? 01.48.07 # sure 01.48.10 # thx 01.48.24 # i won't forget the --nogap :) 01.48.27 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 01.49.03 # 1: y does rockbox load a file over and over again if set to repeat one and the file is only 1 mb hughe? i mean, it's all in the memory, so y does rockbox load it again = waste of battery, isn't it? 01.50.09 # yes it is a waste, but the code is written that way. it tries to fit as many tracks in the memory as possible 01.50.35 # and it doesn't take into account that it loops 01.51.10 # is it worth trying to build that feature in or is that to nerdy for the few couple of amiga freaks ;-) ? 01.52.03 # it will actually be pretty tricky to do, the current code wasn't written with in-memory looping in mind 01.53.17 # hm. ic. i mean, is it worth filing a feature request for that or would it never be taken into consideration cause it's only for a few ppl out there? 01.53.57 # there is a request for that already (or was it a bug report?) 01.54.11 # and i know your time is way limited ... 01.54.30 # somebody requested that yet? 01.54.32 # hm 01.54.42 # gotta cheack that out 01.55.40 # ready for my second question? 01.55.50 # sure 01.55.54 # thx man 01.56.38 # :) 01.57.35 # 2: i filed a feature request (ages ago) about the repeat one mode. that if u click next/back once, u'll go to the start/end of the song like usual. BUT: if u press it twice, u jump to the next / before file. cause right now u have to press f3, change repeat, leave f3, skip, press f3 again, change mode, leave f3 again ... u get what i mean? 01.57.59 # oh you MOD player mainacs 01.58.14 # LOL :-) 01.58.26 # yes we are ... u can't get us dead ... 01.59.05 # wait 01.59.17 # what is the use of the next button when you are in "repeat one" ? none 01.59.21 # but i think it's not only for mod freaks, also for "normal" ppl that wanna listen to their current favourite song_S_ in repeat one mode 01.59.32 # next = beginning of track 01.59.36 # same like back 01.59.37 # true 01.59.42 # that's the point i wanna say 01.59.51 # and I totally agree with you :) 02.00.12 # yeah, i think next/prev could work like normal 02.00.12 # so what u think LinusN? 02.00.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.00.25 # if I press next, it should go to next song :) no matter what repeat mode you are 02.00.55 # yeah, or if u press it twice to point out that u're in repeat one mode 02.01.12 # no need imho 02.01.17 # i vote pressing once 02.01.42 # hm. u're right, one press should be enoug. my prob is that my f3 button will be the first one to wear out ... 02.02.37 # and of course, the amiga geek inside me urges me a lot ... :-) 02.03.56 # LinusN: i checked the feature request but i can't fine one about the "loop with less than 1,5 mb file = batter waste" thing 02.04.28 # u sure that's been requested yet? 02.04.51 # check the bug reports 02.05.12 # k 02.07.46 # as far as i see: no 02.08.52 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439118&aid=683292 02.09.13 # doh! 02.09.29 # i didn't look at sourceforge, just a the rockbox site 02.09.53 # it is listed at the rb site 02.10.23 # under "MP3 Playback" 02.10.45 # u're right, there it is. sorry my bad! i don't want to look bad or lazy here now! 02.11.21 # :) 02.13.00 # so LinusN, withough wanting to lay any more pressure on u than u already got or to offend or piss u of: is there any chance of these 2 features getting implemented any time soon, where as the repeat change is more important than the battery waste i guess, at least with my 2000 bats 02.14.49 # BoD: u think that repeat one is more important as well? 02.16.11 # of course it is ! 02.16.17 # very important :) 02.16.22 # hehe, thx 02.16.38 # i always listen in repeat-1 02.16.44 # yap, me too 02.17.00 # I never use no-repeat 02.17.12 # i only do for live concerts 02.17.23 # my current firmware is one I modified to remove the no-repeat :) 02.17.59 # hehe ic 02.18.12 # so i only have to press f2-right once to loop repeat-all/repeat-1 02.18.33 # nice job 02.19.15 # LinusN, r u still here? 02.19.34 # i am, 02.19.39 # k 02.21.06 # u know, i'm just asking, nothin more. and i know that i kinda don't have the right to ask, as i'm only a consumer of the rockbox and no coder or helper. and u already helped with the --nogap option a lot! 02.21.14 Join NibbIer [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-217.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 02.21.15 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.21.32 # ahaha :) 02.21.57 # ahaha ? 02.22.06 # don't worry 02.22.10 # i'm sure it's fine 02.22.42 # u know it's the first time i'm on here so i dont wanna behave like a greedy bastard 02.23.27 Join Bluechip [0] (~bluechip@pc4-colc1-3-cust59.colc.cable.ntl.com) 02.23.35 # see it this way : by asking a enhancement, you give feedback, so, on some level you contribute to improve rockbox :) 02.23.43 # hm 02.23.45 # good point 02.24.17 DBUG Enqueued KICK Bluechip 02.24.17 # 02evenin' - i'm bored, anything interesting going down? 02.24.38 # doing down ? 02.24.49 # i mean : "going down ?" 02.25.03 # 02erm, uk slang - happening 02.25.15 # oh right :) 02.25.18 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 02.25.28 Quit BlackMountainCow ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.25.40 # bluechip : we were talking a bit about the behaviour of the next button when in repeat-one mode 02.25.53 *** Alert Mode level 1 02.25.53 # 02hmmm 02.26.14 Join BlackMountainCow [0] (~Christian@p5084434C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 02.26.14 # blackmountaincow and I think it should play next track 02.26.25 *** Alert Mode level 2 02.26.25 # 02you oughta see the utterly blank look on my face - lol 02.26.40 # why ? 02.26.56 *** Alert Mode level 3 02.26.56 # 02cos i have no idea what it should do!!! LOL 02.27.13 # it should go next :) 02.27.24 # ah, is it about the repeat one thing? 02.27.33 # cool 02.27.39 *** Alert Mode level 4 02.27.39 # 02next track is where I was at as it was suggested, but if you have selected repeat only one, then maybe it should perform the same as prev - i skip to start 02.27.58 *** Alert Mode level 5 02.27.58 # 02but that is pointless 02.28.04 *** Alert Mode level 6 02.28.04 # 02arrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh 02.28.24 # Bluechip: cut the colour 02.28.38 # i like the colour 02.29.15 *** Alert Mode level 7 02.29.15 # 02thu: any special reason for disliking colour 02.29.28 # Bluechip: you try reading blue text on a black background 02.29.39 # right :) 02.29.43 *** Alert Mode level 8 02.29.43 # 02ahh 02.29.44 # k guys, was fun and interesting (BoD: remeber --nogap ;-) ) , cu later. 2.30 am here 02.29.53 # --nogap for ever ;) 02.29.57 # yeah! 02.29.58 # hey wait blackmountaincow 02.29.59 # BlackMountainCow: here too 02.30.05 # we're on the same tz !! 02.30.13 # me = germany 02.30.20 # oh you're german ok.. i'm french 02.30.36 # Bluechip: say something 02.30.36 # well, bon nuit! 02.30.44 # is that right? 02.31.00 # bon nuit BlackMountainCow 02.31.04 # no 02.31.12 *** Alert Mode level 9 02.31.12 # 02As changing colour is a pain right now, I will opt to say nothing and reduce the level of offence I am causing 02.31.14 # bonne nuit :) guten nacht 02.31.27 # Bluechip: mmkay.. fixed for me 02.31.37 # damn, male and female. never udnerstood those at school ;-) 02.31.42 # I stripped mirc colours 02.31.53 # BlackMountainCow: the night is female.. I mean.. duh! 02.31.57 # LOL 02.32.08 # wish u told me that while still at school 02.32.32 # k, gotta get up tomorrow = today at 7, so LATER ALL, take care! 02.32.33 # this sentence, taken out of context .... ;) 02.32.40 # :-) 02.32.40 # bye :! 02.32.43 # later 02.32.45 *** Alert Mode level 10 02.32.45 # 02nite 02.32.54 # cu LinusN, thx for help and time! 02.33.01 # you're welcome 02.33.02 Quit BlackMountainCow ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 02.33.27 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 02.33.27 # * thu looking for a movie 02.33.43 # bah p2p networks are no good.. slow and unreliable 02.34.26 *** Alert Mode level 11 02.34.26 # 02you could always pay for your stuff rather than pirate it? 02.34.57 # i don't use the word "pirate" 02.35.25 *** Alert Mode level 12 02.35.25 # 02no, most pirates don't 02.35.26 # Bluechip: I'd be glad to rent it if any local video store would have it 02.35.33 # yarr 02.35.38 *** Alert Mode level 13 02.35.38 # 02lol 02.35.49 # I mean ... 02.36.01 # I don't call this copying "piracy", because that is a propaganda word. I don't think it is wrong to copy and share information. Governments can pass laws against it, but that does not make it wrong, just illegal. 02.36.14 # aye matey 02.36.43 # BoD[]: of course it's wrong.. think of all the starving artists 02.37.06 *** Alert Mode level 14 02.37.06 # 02anyways, I was after techie talk - i shall bid ye a good night all ;) 02.37.15 Join BoD{{}} [0] (~BoD@m232.net195-132-84.noos.fr) 02.37.25 # woops 02.37.26 # did you get that? 02.39.27 Quit BoD[] (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.40.09 Nick BoD{{}} is now known as BoD[] (~BoD@m232.net195-132-84.noos.fr) 02.41.41 # anyway;) 02.45.50 # time to sleep 02.45.57 # night 02.46.01 *** Alert Mode level 15 02.46.01 # 02night 02.46.01 Part LinusN 02.56.02 *** Alert Mode OFF 03.47.21 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-195-146.res.east.verizon.net) 03.48.47 # And so, we meet again, Bart. 03.51.43 Quit thu (Remote closed the connection) 03.51.56 Part Bluechip 03.52.00 # bart ? 03.55.29 # An allusion to an American comedy cartton, "The Simpsons" 03.55.57 # thanks :) 03.56.06 # You're from .de? 03.56.10 # who says that quote ? 03.56.16 # no i'm .fr 03.56.33 # Sideshow Bob, a murderer 03.57.01 # Oh, I met several co-operants at your embassy in .us 03.57.01 # oh right :)) 03.57.22 # heyyy you know what I think you already told me this :) 03.57.37 # I'm not very original. 03.57.51 # :) 03.58.36 # I hope to limit my responses to the point that a bad ai program could sucessfully impersonate me 03.58.56 # maybe you ARE an ai 03.59.29 # Can you elucidate on that? 03.59.36 # ahahahha :) 04.00.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.00.45 # What does ahahahha make you think of? 04.01.24 # :))) 04.01.40 # it's easier for a human to imitate an ai than the opposite 04.02.00 # That's what /they/ want us to think. 04.02.18 # So, what music do you listen to on rb? 04.02.36 # wow a lot of different styles 04.02.46 # any classical? 04.03.01 # hmmm nop except movie music (john williams and such) 04.03.11 # i'm not sure it's "classical" ? 04.03.14 # ah, Star WArs 04.03.30 # yes:) 04.03.48 # i'm also a Michael Jackson fan 04.03.53 # are their any id3 tags you'd want besides those already on rb? 04.04.18 # tags ? hmmm 04.04.26 # I've heard mj is very popular; that's probably why he's not to my liking 04.04.47 # mj is a genius! 04.04.59 # maybe so. 04.05.18 # just doesn't much move me 04.05.24 # maybe a tag for the number of times the song have been listened to ? 04.05.33 # that could be cool :) 04.05.33 # ah. 04.05.52 # automatically updated? 04.05.59 # of course:) 04.06.16 # when the song starts, or when it ends? 04.06.53 # ends 04.07.09 # because otherwise it would update even when you listen just the begining 04.07.20 # hm. that means extra disk accesses 04.07.52 # true 04.07.55 # which means shorter battery life 04.08.16 # which I would mind less if I had a recorder 04.08.26 # that would need to be a desactivable feature;) 04.08.35 # definitely 04.08.59 # what other tags would you see? 04.09.14 # well, classical wants extra tags 04.09.35 # composer, band, conductor, opus, catalog number 04.09.38 # like what 04.09.41 # oh right 04.10.04 # but are you sure it's possible to "add" tags ? 04.10.10 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 04.10.19 # i mean does the id3 spec permit this 04.10.20 # they're in the id3 specification 04.10.33 # ohh they're already there! 04.10.40 # and adding a non-standard tag is easy 04.10.50 # well, for version 2 04.10.56 # ok 04.11.01 # version 1, you can't 04.11.13 # so you would like rockbox to support them ? 04.11.14 # version 1 is very limited 04.11.37 # well, I already got composer added when my patch was accepted 04.11.48 # but I have another idea now 04.11.59 # i guess it is easy to add the other ones :) 04.12.01 # let the user specify any tag he wants 04.12.09 # hi tpe 04.12.15 # how ? 04.12.28 # by adding the tags from the wps 04.15.15 # how would you add new tags in the .wps file ? 04.16.45 # just be specift the id3 tag name 04.17.09 # currently we use %ia for artist 04.17.58 # insteas we'd use %iT[TIT2] for artist 04.18.36 # well, actuallt tit2 is title 04.19.02 # ok 04.19.12 # tags in id3 are strings? 04.19.18 # yes 04.19.47 # the spec calls for 4 characters in the latest spec 04.19.59 # only 4 ? 04.20.22 # it's a bit silly :) 04.20.24 # earlier specs use 3, and microsoft uses WM/howevermanytheywant 04.21.15 # i heard once that the ogg vorbis equivalent is much better 04.21.26 # well, using just capital letters that's 456976 possible tags 04.21.56 # yeah but what's the point 04.22.23 # how do you mean? 04.23.28 # i mean it's better to have a long but precise label 04.24.00 # oh, the tags are reasonably precise 04.24.19 # they're just not meant to be read by humans. 04.24.30 # yeah well :) 04.24.33 # which is a drawback of my scheme 04.35.02 # i go to bed now! 04.35.05 # see you all 04.35.08 Quit BoD[] ("dododododo") 04.35.39 Part tpelliott 05.40.25 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 05.45.24 # What's going on this evening? 05.48.25 # hey tpe 06.00.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.05.26 # Not much activity here tonght. 06.06.40 # I'm listening to my Archos, trying to run the batteries down befor I charge it. 06.07.16 # That's why I like having the digital out.....sounds great. 06.17.13 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 06.18.05 # Not much going on here tonight. 06.18.47 # did you get cygwin installed? 06.19.03 # and running rockbox compile? 06.19.23 # Yes but not all the Rockbox stuff. 06.20.12 # I'll do that later. For now, I'll leave the programming and compiling to the programmers. 06.20.20 # ah, you're 80% of the way to the pride of your own build 06.20.42 # Cool. 06.20.50 # but then you won't be able to pick and chose patches 06.21.14 # I'm not sure I have the stuff to log into cvs. 06.22.27 # anon login 06.22.47 # Yes. 06.22.52 # oh, the software? cygwin standard 06.23.49 # Should I have it under /home/rockbox? 06.24.14 # cvs? 06.24.21 # Yes 06.24.26 # it should be in your cygwin path 06.24.38 # start cygwin' type cvs to see 06.29.20 # command not found 06.29.20 # hmph 06.29.20 # did I install it?? 06.29.20 # I guess I didn't 06.29.20 # +9 049- 06.29.20 DBUG Enqueued KICK earHurts 06.29.20 # no prob 06.29.20 # start the cygwin installer, select the developers tools 06.29.20 *** Alert Mode level 1 06.29.20 # "Devel" 06.32.34 # I don't understand the installer. Across the top, it has options: Keep, Prev, Cun, Exp, View (button) 06.33.22 # it is confusing 06.34.03 # ok. Looks like I'm viewing "Not Installed" 06.34.11 # you probably want cur, the current files, rather than exp, experimental 06.34.42 # ok. 06.34.55 Join eZZo [0] (jirc@ip68-0-209-193.ri.ri.cox.net) 06.35.18 # heyas :D 06.35.20 # click cur, then click the the circular arrows next to devel 06.35.23 Join ClosetPacifist [0] (~ClosetPac@ppp10.sns3.NewportNews.visi.net) 06.35.29 # until you get install 06.35.54 # the make sure cvs isn't set to skip 06.36.02 # he ezzo 06.36.03 # ok. 06.36.22 # when someone ha a sec..I have a dumb Q for yas ;) 06.36.34 # no dum questions 06.36.44 # only dumb people :) 06.36.47 # What's Bin?, SRC? 06.36.47 # you might wanna hold that thought ;) 06.36.51 # ok..that is better 06.37.36 # bin is executable, src is source code 06.38.00 # get the bin unless you need/want to hack on it 06.38.09 # I hadn't updated my Rockbox for a while..actually I wasn;t in posession of my JB Studio 20 for quite some time...and I noticed something on the daily builds page that is confusing me... 06.38.19 # ezzo, wassa q? 06.38.23 # ok. I'll get the bin 06.38.38 # easiest to get the bin 06.38.41 # why are there (rocks) files listed next to the jukebox DL's when they are not supported? 06.39.05 # they are supported? 06.39.10 # they're supported in the daily build 06.39.21 *** Alert Mode OFF 06.39.25 # get the daily 06.40.07 # I tried checking FAQ..saw nothing but they werent supported 06.40.25 # I have the daily and they don;t run.. 06.40.34 # I got curious and tried.. 06.40.37 # :-D 06.40.38 # do you have the rocks? 06.40.43 # yeh 06.40.52 # are they in /rockbox/rocks 06.41.03 # I think you have to have them in .rockbox/rocks/ 06.41.08 # .rockbox/rocks 06.41.14 # yeah, . 06.41.15 # or rockbox/rocks 06.41.23 # ok..gotta shuffle..one sec ;) 06.41.39 # The leading period is very important 06.41.59 # yeah I have that...you get errors playing files if you dont 06.42.52 # go to menulcredits 06.43.42 # ? 06.43.48 # menu 06.44.00 # f1 on the recorder or fm 06.44.12 # no...studio ; 06.44.56 # whatever menu is for you, then Version 06.45.19 # tyeah 06.45.32 # what's the version number? 06.45.53 # 030716 06.46.07 # todays 06.46.15 # hmph 06.46.35 # I selected everything. It will take a while. 06.46.44 # what happens if you 06.47.00 # games don't run on studios, do they? 06.47.16 # they are the demos.. 06.47.27 # if you go to daily builds... 06.47.30 # yeah, i was surprised you got cygwin so fast last night 06.47.42 # ok. 06.47.58 # what happens when you go to menu demos some demo? 06.48.00 # there are (rocks) for the player dls 06.48.16 # i was gonna get cable, tpe 06.48.39 # there is no DEMO option 06.48.57 # what error msg do you get when you play a rock? 06.49.08 # I love cable. I've had it 3 and a half years. 06.49.13 # first I have to "view all files" 06.49.16 # tpe: i have dsl 06.49.39 # Not good service? 06.49.42 # then when I play a rock I get.."Incompatable Model" 06.49.49 # good enough 06.49.51 # oh 06.50.03 # download today's rocks 06.50.12 # The player dosen't have enough screen space for the games as designed. 06.50.18 # that is what I have 06.51.02 # tpelliot...that is why I am trying to figure out why the rocks files are there with the player files? 06.51.18 # Not sure. 06.51.32 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml 06.51.40 # got me. email the list. 06.51.53 # player.mod (rocks) recorder.mod(rocks) etc 06.51.59 # Make sure you get a new set of rocks when you get your daily build 06.52.18 # bot rocks and mod are todays 06.52.21 # both even 06.52.51 # Besides that, you may want to post a question for the developers on the mailing list. 06.53.06 # gonna go check it in a moment 06.53.12 # thanks :D 06.53.26 # sorry, man 06.53.31 # There's a new discussion about flashing the player. \ 06.53.44 # np 06.54.22 # I almost got the player. I wasn't sure I would need to record. 06.54.47 # i figured i'd get the best 06.55.09 # Me too. The FM wasn't out yet. 06.55.10 # then i'd have longer before it was obsolete 06.55.26 # fm batteries are a pain 06.55.33 # and no digi out 06.55.46 # I would hate that. 06.55.52 # so you may have the best anyway 06.56.04 # I'm listening to the digital out now and it sounds great. 06.56.09 # i hate that archos claims it does 06.56.29 # What's the digital in cinnector? 06.56.32 # i just play from my pc if i want digi out 06.56.45 # huh? 06.57.11 # How do you use the digital in (for recording) 06.57.21 # What type of plug? 06.57.36 # just plug in your typical rca plug 06.58.01 # On the Archos side, I mean 06.58.02 # i've never recorded from anything but the internal mic 06.58.13 # got me 06.58.29 # nothing to record 06.58.45 # I'm just curious. Mine has a stereo mini jack. One side is input and the other side is output. 06.59.33 # it's got a line in, looks like a headphone jack 07.00.34 # ok. Mine has an analog line in on the bottom and a digital in/out on the top, opposite the headphone jack. 07.01.15 # crap 07.01.24 # I haven't used the digital in much myself. Just test from ny digital cable TV. 07.01.37 # and your batteries last 14 hours 07.02.07 # Not really. It displays 11 hours. 07.02.26 # I bought a set but they are only 1600 mha 07.02.32 # oh, mine /displays/ 1q hours 07.02.39 # 11 07.03.07 # I gotta get some sleep tpe 07.03.14 # have a good night 07.03.26 # I may get the newer 2200 mha NiNH's when I read more reviews. 07.03.41 # sigh 07.03.44 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection) 07.03.46 # ok. Good night. 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22.10.35 # *rombox 22.10.44 # * Stevie[FreedomPa is away [(Auto-Away after 1hr)] [KS-MsgLog Off] 22.11.02 # * Stevie[FreedomPa is back from [(Auto-Away after 1hr)] [gone 18secs] [KS] 22.17.21 Quit Hadaka (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 22.17.22 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 22.27.21 Quit Neo ("Client exiting") 22.34.35 Join TheDoctor [0] (jirc@pD9526572.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.35.23 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m232.net195-132-84.noos.fr) 22.35.26 # hello! 22.35.35 # hey i've got a problem patching the car ignition auto stop... 22.36.28 # i patched it but theres an error in the settings_menu.c 22.37.09 # saying: in function'car_adapter_mode': 22.37.35 # :54 incompatible type for argument 3 of 'set_option' 22.40.34 # does anyone know what exactly it means 22.40.34 # depending code: rc = set_option( str(LANG_CAR_ADAPTER_MODE), 22.40.42 # &value, options, 2, 22.40.50 # set_car_adapter_mode); 22.41.54 # Is anyone here who can help 22.41.57 # sorry i can't 22.44.10 # isn't anybody els here??? grmpf.. 22.44.32 # do you have an idea where to ask 22.46.01 # in the mailing list 22.49.24 Join ILuvit [0] (~ydouneedi@ool-18bfc352.dyn.optonline.net) 22.50.28 # is the language called c??? 22.51.32 # Hi guys 22.51.32 # or how is it called??<--progamming language 22.51.32 # hey luv it! 22.52.36 # are you a developer?? 22.52.36 # the language is C 22.52.36 # ^hx 22.52.36 # yau guys bib a great job for Archos 22.52.36 # "the C programming language" :) 22.52.36 # @luvit ??? 22.53.22 # are you a rockboxer?? 22.53.22 # rockbox is great 22.53.45 Quit ricII (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.54.44 # can yoú help me find out why i got : too few argument in... 22.55.06 # is there any work going on for a remote for the FM Recorder ? 22.55.28 # no car ignition auto power off... 22.56.13 # i got incompatible type for argument 3 of 'set_option 22.56.30 # here---> &value, options, 2, set_car_adapter_mode); 22.56.44 # why 23.01.22 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 23.06.02 Join Guest57 [0] (~jirc@AMetz-101-1-2-233.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) 23.06.18 # is there a flash rockbox version for the player now ?? thanks 23.07.22 # Not yet. They're working on it. 23.08.12 # ok 23.14.12 # * Stevie[FreedomPa is away [(Auto-Away after 1hr)] [KS-MsgLog Off] 23.14.46 Part tpelliott 23.43.20 # if i wanted to make a remote for my FM Recorder, how do i determin kind of command the recorder responds to ? 23.45.28 # any ideas guys? 23.45.50 # sorry no idea 23.46.18 # k 23.58.08 # compiling with cygwin on my athlon box is VERY slow 23.58.09 Quit ILuvit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))