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00.51.28 #       <midknight2k3> ACK
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00.54.18 #       <midknight2k3> thu
00.54.19 #       <midknight2k3> its thu
00.54.23 #       <midknight2k3> who is thu?
00.54.26 #       <midknight2k3> thu sounds familiar
00.54.30 #       <thu> it is me !!
00.54.36 #       <midknight2k3> yahoo
00.54.40 #       <midknight2k3> have i talked to you before?
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01.52.38 #       <midknight2k3> thu are you a programmer?
01.53.09 #       <midknight2k3> or is anyone here?
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02.05.58 #       <midknight2k3> please?
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02.08.17 #       <thu> I'm here but I'm not a rockbox programmer
02.08.27 #       <midknight2k3> can you program anyways?
02.08.43 #       <thu> in my good days
02.08.51 #       <midknight2k3> is it a good day?
02.09.09 #       <thu> dunno.. what's the problem?
02.09.42 #       <midknight2k3> i wondered if someone could finally bump up the scroll speed setting higher, to perhaps 12 or 13 Hz
02.09.50 #       <midknight2k3> seems pretty simple
02.09.56 #       <midknight2k3> but then again I might be able to do it
02.10.07 #       <midknight2k3> even though I can't code for... uhm, beans
02.10.17 #       <thu> that's rockbox-specific.. can't help you there
02.10.25 #       <midknight2k3> oh
02.10.31 #       <thu> and imho it's unreadable as it is 
02.10.32 #       <midknight2k3> oh well
02.10.38 #       <thu> at max speed
02.10.39 #       <midknight2k3> i will check it out- perhaps it's simple
02.10.45 #       <midknight2k3> really?
02.10.55 #       <midknight2k3> what pixel step do you use?
02.12.09 #       <thu> dunno i keep changing it depending on how long my titles are
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02.12.20 #       <midknight2k3> exactly
02.12.28 #       <midknight2k3> right now it's at 4 pixel step and 10Hz
02.12.32 #       <midknight2k3> but i want more
02.12.35 #       <midknight2k3> hey track is back!
02.13.38 #       <thu> my display refresh rate is too low
02.13.42 #       <thu> I get headaches at 10Hz
02.14.03 #       <midknight2k3> i bet
02.14.09 #       <midknight2k3> what i truly wan
02.14.12 #       <midknight2k3> want*
02.14.21 #       <thu> money?
02.14.22 #       <thu> women?
02.14.23 #       <midknight2k3> is a 1 or 2 pixel step thing with like 15Hz
02.14.24 #       <tracktheripper> midknight
02.14.28 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.14.28 #       <thu> oh
02.14.31 #       <midknight2k3> money maybe
02.14.33 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.14.39 #       <midknight2k3> yes mr. tracktheripper
02.15.32 #       <tracktheripper> :D
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02.16.02 #       <tracktheripper> its SIR
02.16.02 #       <tracktheripper> to u
02.16.02 #       <tracktheripper> :D
02.16.13 #       <BoD[]> hello :)
02.16.15 #       <midknight2k3> and it's bod
02.16.18 #       <midknight2k3> how lively
02.16.19 #       <midknight2k3> :D
02.16.36 #       <midknight2k3> im about to do something!
02.16.36 #       <BoD[]> héhé 
02.16.40 #       <BoD[]> do what?
02.16.54 #       <midknight2k3> i am not going to attempt to change the 10hz scroll limit to 15hz
02.16.58 #       <midknight2k3> with no C knoledge!
02.17.05 #       <midknight2k3> not=now
02.17.07 #       <midknight2k3> lolol
02.17.16 #       <midknight2k3> i am not going to attempt..
02.17.18 #       <midknight2k3> GRRRR
02.17.23 #       <midknight2k3> i am now going to attempt
02.17.26 #       <BoD[]> what is that 10hz scroll lomit
02.17.28 #       <BoD[]> llmit
02.17.30 #       <midknight2k3> scroll speed
02.17.34 #       <midknight2k3> 10Hz is max
02.17.37 #       <midknight2k3> i want 15
02.17.54 #       <midknight2k3> linus aint around, neither is zagor, so i must work it out myself
02.18.13 #       <BoD[]> tell me if you succeded ;)
02.18.27 #       <midknight2k3> im trying to find what C file it is in lol
02.18.42 #       <midknight2k3> i will look in cvs
02.18.42 #       <BoD[]> the other day I tried to modifie the next button behavior while in repeat-1 mode ...... didn't work
02.18.50 #       <midknight2k3> do you know c?
02.18.54 #       <midknight2k3> or you just tried?
02.18.59 #       <BoD[]> I know C
02.19.01 #       <midknight2k3> oh yeah lol
02.19.06 #       <midknight2k3> you do?
02.19.13 #       <midknight2k3> can you do this for me if i fail?
02.19.25 #       <BoD[]> I'm not sure ;)
02.19.31 #       <midknight2k3> can you try?
02.19.47 #       <BoD[]> I'm not sure neither ;) I'm not at home... not on my pc
02.20.01 #       <midknight2k3> you little
02.20.09 #       <BoD[]> so I don't want to install a "development kit" here
02.20.11 #       <midknight2k3> where is it?
02.21.01 #       <BoD[]> where is what
02.21.11 #       <midknight2k3> the scroll settings and the scroll file
02.21.15 #       <midknight2k3> how can i get to where it is?
02.21.20 #       <midknight2k3> HOW DO I DOOO IT?
02.21.45 #       <tracktheripper> File it as a request
02.21.49 #       <BoD[]> calm down :)
02.21.53 #       <midknight2k3> hahah
02.21.54 #       <midknight2k3> no
02.21.58 #       <midknight2k3> i wnat to do it
02.22.02 #       <midknight2k3> bjorn will reject it
02.22.10 #       <midknight2k3> he will say it will look ugly
02.22.16 #       <midknight2k3> i want to see it myself
02.22.20 #       <midknight2k3> bod
02.22.27 #       <tracktheripper> well bjorn loves rejecting things
02.22.34 #       <midknight2k3> can you tell me how to open the source code?
02.22.36 #       <BoD[]> try to find the right variable first
02.22.44 #       <midknight2k3> variable?
02.22.48 #       <midknight2k3> why?
02.23.01 #       <midknight2k3> where ware the variables?
02.23.04 #       <tracktheripper> midknighht u wanna know the true reasons of those funnny reqyests?
02.23.04 #       <BoD[]> do you have a tool to search a word in a directory full of files ?
02.23.20 #       <midknight2k3> perhaps
02.23.23 #       <midknight2k3> why track?
02.23.28 #       <midknight2k3>  for fun or to bug bjorn?
02.23.55 #       <midknight2k3> i need to unpack all of the C iles first
02.24.11 #       <midknight2k3> how do i open the source?
02.24.20 #       <tracktheripper> to give bjorn something to reject since he likes rejecting things
02.24.20 #       <BoD[]> pff:)
02.24.26 #       <midknight2k3> i bet
02.24.28 #       <midknight2k3> arg
02.24.35 #       <midknight2k3> i want to be able to do this
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02.24.42 #       <midknight2k3> can you tell me what to do?
02.24.58 #       <BoD[]> wait wait wait
02.25.02 #       <BoD[]> do you have a dev kit ?
02.25.08 #       <midknight2k3> name the things i need
02.25.12 #       <BoD[]> something to compile and make the .ajz ?
02.25.14 #       <midknight2k3> i have the cygwin
02.25.25 #       <midknight2k3> what would i need for that?
02.25.51 #       <BoD[]> well it's simple you have to follow the instructions ;)
02.25.56 #       <BoD[]> there's a site for this
02.26.02 #       <midknight2k3> where are the instructions?
02.26.10 #       <BoD[]> wait
02.26.36 #       <BoD[]> http://rockbox.my-vserver.de/win32-sdk.html
02.27.07 #       <midknight2k3> thats all i need?
02.27.24 #       <BoD[]> of course
02.27.43 #       <BoD[]> you do all they say here and then you'll be able to compile your own firmware
02.28.14 #       <BoD[]> of course I'm not sure it's up to date (i'm not sure how it works with the rocks thing)
02.28.36 #       <midknight2k3> should be ok for now
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02.34.15 #       <midknight2k3> stay here bod
02.34.20 #       <midknight2k3> i will need you help soon
02.35.06 #       <BoD[]> héhéé :)
02.41.59 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.42.09 #       <midknight2k3> 56k is terrible
02.49.27 #       <midknight2k3> ok bod stay alert
02.50.35 #       <BoD[]> . . .
02.50.46 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.50.50 #       <midknight2k3> i need help soon maybe
02.56.14 #       <midknight2k3> bod?
02.56.33 #       <BoD[]> yes?
02.56.42 #       <midknight2k3> how would you unpack rockbox that's in c:\cygwin into c:\cygwin\home\rockbox?
02.57.09 #       <BoD[]> when you mean rockbox you mean the source tar.gz ?
02.57.24 #       <midknight2k3> i think lol
02.57.40 #       <midknight2k3> i have rockbox 2.0 blabla .tar.gz
02.57.49 #       <BoD[]> where did you get it
02.57.53 #       <midknight2k3> how do i get it into the folder it needs to go
02.57.57 #       <midknight2k3> at rockbox download page
02.58.12 #       <BoD[]> is it a daily snapshot
02.58.18 #       <midknight2k3> no should it be?
02.58.22 #       <BoD[]> of course
02.58.24 #       <midknight2k3> daily tarball thing
02.58.31 #       <BoD[]> you don't want 2.0 ;))
02.58.33 #       <BoD[]> oh
02.58.36 #       <BoD[]> then it's the right one
02.58.43 #       <midknight2k3> uhm?
02.58.44 #       <midknight2k3> ok
02.58.50 #       <BoD[]> are you in the cygwin shell now ?
02.58.58 #       <midknight2k3> bash prompt?
02.59.00 #       <midknight2k3> yea
02.59.35 #       <BoD[]> are you in ~ ?
02.59.42 #       <midknight2k3> c:\cygwin
02.59.51 #       <midknight2k3> i have the rockbox .tar.gz in there
03.00.01 #       <midknight2k3> and i have bzip2 and tar files
03.00.08 #       <midknight2k3> and i have bzip2 and tar exes
03.00.20 #       <BoD[]> ok then try tar xvfz r*gz ~
03.00.40 #       <midknight2k3> with a ~ at end?
03.00.42 #       <midknight2k3> GRRR
03.00.53 #       <midknight2k3> just what you did?
03.00.58 #       <BoD[]> yes the ~ means your home .. and your home is /home/rockbox
03.01.09 #       <BoD[]> what did it say
03.01.50 #       <midknight2k3> tar: /home/rockbox: not found in archive
03.01.59 #       <midknight2k3> was i supposed to say xvf or xvfz?
03.02.09 #       <BoD[]> xvfz
03.02.17 #       <BoD[]> z for gz
03.02.40 #       <midknight2k3> ok wait
03.02.49 #       <midknight2k3> was rockbox 2.0 supposed to be in home\rockbox?
03.03.23 #       <BoD[]> welllll
03.03.32 #       <midknight2k3> aww man
03.03.34 #       <BoD[]> I assume the cvs doesn't work, right ?
03.03.37 #       <midknight2k3> ?
03.03.46 #       <midknight2k3> why would you assume that?
03.03.56 #       <BoD[]> because I've heard it doesn't  ;)
03.04.03 #       <midknight2k3> ok then it doesnt
03.04.09 #       <midknight2k3> what do i do?
03.04.10 #       <BoD[]> but did you try rb-checkout.sh
03.04.17 #       <midknight2k3> what is that
03.04.18 #       <BoD[]> (as mentioned in the site)
03.04.27 #       <BoD[]> point 8
03.04.34 #       <midknight2k3> bod
03.04.38 #       <midknight2k3> im not there yet
03.04.52 #       <BoD[]> what point are you :)
03.04.55 #       <midknight2k3> im at step 8 beginning
03.05.08 #       <BoD[]> did you see the "OR"
03.05.24 #       <BoD[]> :) try the cvs way
03.05.29 #       <midknight2k3> i rahter do the former than the latter
03.05.29 #       <BoD[]> but I think it won't work
03.05.43 #       <midknight2k3> how do i do the checkout cvs thing?
03.06.21 #       <BoD[]> just type cd
03.06.26 #       <BoD[]> then 
03.06.28 #       <midknight2k3> just cd?
03.06.33 #       <BoD[]> rb-checkout.sh
03.06.34 #       <midknight2k3> okok
03.06.43 #       <BoD[]> yes cd will go to your home
03.07.07 #       <midknight2k3> its doing a buch of stuff
03.07.19 #       <BoD[]> errors ? :)
03.07.26 #       <midknight2k3> c and h files
03.07.30 #       <midknight2k3> now lang stuff
03.07.39 #       <midknight2k3> player
03.07.41 #       <BoD[]> well it's great it means the cvs works !
03.07.42 #       <midknight2k3> plugins
03.07.53 #       <midknight2k3> recorder
03.07.54 #       <midknight2k3> blabla
03.07.56 #       <midknight2k3> ok
03.07.58 #       <midknight2k3> good
03.07.58 #       <midknight2k3> butt
03.08.11 #       <midknight2k3> i didn't mean anything by that last word there
03.08.25 #       <BoD[]> ;)
03.08.31 #       <midknight2k3> its working
03.08.35 #       <midknight2k3> its going into home/rockbox
03.08.39 #       <midknight2k3> automatically!
03.08.44 #       <BoD[]> great
03.08.45 #       <midknight2k3> no downloading anything
03.08.54 #       <midknight2k3> this is the latest versions?
03.08.57 #       <BoD[]> well I'm sure it's downloading something
03.09.09 #       <BoD[]> yeah it's the version from cvs 
03.09.10 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.09.18 #       <BoD[]> more bleeding than the bleeding edge ;)
03.09.33 #       <midknight2k3> neet
03.09.39 #       <midknight2k3> i can compile soon
03.11.36 #       <midknight2k3> its done
03.12.06 #       <BoD[]> ok now do the other points ;)
03.12.16 #       <midknight2k3> yes ma'am
03.12.50 #       <BoD[]> I'm not a ma'am
03.13.01 #       <midknight2k3> yes sire
03.13.06 #       <BoD[]> :)
03.13.11 #       <midknight2k3> :D
03.13.16 #       <midknight2k3> finishing the points sire
03.14.33 #       <midknight2k3> do i want to use demos?
03.14.40 #       <midknight2k3> or no cause its plugins
03.14.50 #       <midknight2k3> BOD?
03.14.53 #       <midknight2k3> HELP HERE
03.15.31 #       <midknight2k3> hello?
03.15.40 #       <midknight2k3> bod
03.15.43 #       <midknight2k3> demos yes or no?
03.15.50 #       <BoD[]> well
03.15.53 #       <BoD[]> do you want them ? :)
03.16.00 #       <midknight2k3> um
03.16.08 #       <midknight2k3> if i say yes will they come out plugins?
03.16.15 #       <midknight2k3> or no to use them as plugins
03.16.26 #       <BoD[]> I'm not sure sorry :)
03.16.28 #       <midknight2k3> do i have the plugins?
03.16.30 #       <midknight2k3> i say no
03.16.35 #       <BoD[]> yeah just say no
03.16.41 #       <BoD[]> because anyway the demos are rocks !
03.16.44 #       <midknight2k3> YEAH
03.16.46 #       <midknight2k3> exactly
03.16.47 #       <BoD[]> so you already have them
03.16.50 #       <midknight2k3> i make simulator
03.17.08 #       <BoD[]> what ? no!
03.17.12 #       <BoD[]> recorder !
03.17.25 #       <midknight2k3> what?
03.17.28 #       <midknight2k3> why?
03.17.31 #       <midknight2k3> i want a simulatore
03.17.40 #       <BoD[]> ah
03.17.41 #       <midknight2k3> how can i make a simulator
03.17.47 #       <BoD[]> well I don't know
03.17.53 #       <BoD[]> never did it :)
03.18.09 #       <midknight2k3> how do i make the makefile?
03.18.28 #       <BoD[]> but I think : you cannot compile the rockbox tools or the simulator within this environment!
03.18.38 #       <BoD[]> they say that on the page
03.18.41 #       <BoD[]> in red ;)
03.18.44 #       <midknight2k3> oh
03.18.59 #       <midknight2k3> ill make it another wya then
03.19.12 #       <BoD[]> yep
03.19.26 #       <BoD[]> are you in point 10 now ?
03.19.33 #       <midknight2k3> yes
03.20.30 #       <midknight2k3> updating sependencies
03.20.34 #       <midknight2k3> is it working?
03.20.47 #       <BoD[]> updating dependencies ?? configure says that ?
03.20.51 #       <midknight2k3> no
03.20.54 #       <midknight2k3> i said make
03.20.56 #       <midknight2k3> is it working
03.20.57 #       <BoD[]> oh ok
03.21.22 #       <BoD[]> well I guess if it's compiling right now that's working :)
03.25.42 #       <midknight2k3> DONE
03.25.52 #       <BoD[]> do you have the ajz ?
03.26.02 #       <midknight2k3> uhm
03.26.22 #       <midknight2k3> yep
03.26.29 #       <midknight2k3> ajbrec.ajz among many c and h files
03.26.30 #       <BoD[]> that's great
03.26.35 #       <BoD[]> wowow
03.26.43 #       <midknight2k3> i did it?
03.26.45 #       <BoD[]> it souldn't be among c and h files
03.26.59 #       <BoD[]> it should be in build-dir
03.26.59 #       <midknight2k3> my mistake
03.27.01 #       <midknight2k3> o files
03.27.09 #       <BoD[]> oh right:) then it's right
03.27.14 #       <midknight2k3> in build dir it has 5 folers, many o files and ajbrec
03.27.16 #       <midknight2k3> i did it?
03.27.25 #       <BoD[]> yep you did it :) you're a warrior ;)
03.27.37 #       <midknight2k3> i don't think a thirteen year old ever compiled rockbox before
03.27.47 #       <BoD[]> don't assume that
03.28.02 #       <BoD[]> some hackers are really young :)
03.28.36 #       <BoD[]> but anyway now you'll have to find and modify the code
03.28.41 #       <midknight2k3> i bet
03.28.48 #       <BoD[]> which is the hardest part ;) 
03.28.54 #       <midknight2k3> yes
03.28.58 #       <midknight2k3> is it an O file?
03.29.06 #       <BoD[]> nop
03.29.14 #       <BoD[]> it's a c file
03.29.22 #       <midknight2k3> sigh
03.29.29 #       <BoD[]> the o file is compiled (binary if you will)
03.29.44 #       <BoD[]> the c is source :) readable by human and the compiler
03.29.44 #       <midknight2k3> where are my c files then?
03.30.04 #       <midknight2k3> i got it i got it
03.30.13 #       <BoD[]> they are in ~
03.30.26 #       <midknight2k3> yes
03.30.56 #       <BoD[]> but they are in directories
03.31.17 #       <BoD[]> for a bit of organization
03.32.10 #       <midknight2k3> any idea where it might be?
03.33.00 #       <BoD[]> nop :)
03.33.20 #       <BoD[]> what is it named on the rockbox menus ?
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03.34.24 #       <midknight2k3> general settings -> display -> scroll -> scroll speed
03.34.49 #       <BoD[]> then try to find the word "scroll" in the c files
03.34.59 #       <BoD[]> or scroll_speed
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03.36.01 #       <midknight2k3> in menu.c?
03.36.13 #       <BoD[]> for example
03.36.33 #       <midknight2k3> are these files look-atable in notepad?
03.36.37 #       <midknight2k3> its all off center and stuff
03.36.43 #       <BoD[]> they should be yes
03.36.49 #       <BoD[]> off center ?
03.36.54 #       <midknight2k3> neve mind
03.37.39 #       <midknight2k3> i found it\
03.38.20 #       <BoD[]> maybe it won't be that easy
03.38.32 #       <midknight2k3> well it has this
03.38.35 #       <midknight2k3> 1, 1, 10
03.38.42 #       <midknight2k3> is it Min, Step, Max ?
03.38.58 #       <midknight2k3> like the min size, how big increments it can be and then the max?
03.39.34 #       <BoD[]> maybe :) I have no idea
03.39.41 #       <midknight2k3> you do not?
03.39.46 #       <BoD[]> npo sorry
03.39.55 #       <BoD[]> I should see the code
03.39.59 #       <BoD[]> but can't today
03.40.07 #       <midknight2k3> cant ou look at cvs?
03.40.39 #       <BoD[]> is there a web interface
03.41.50 #       <midknight2k3> uh
03.41.54 #       <midknight2k3> you can see the C files
03.41.58 #       <midknight2k3> so i assume
03.42.14 #       <midknight2k3> it's in apps/settings_menu.c
03.42.54 #       <midknight2k3> this is stupid
03.43.07 #       <midknight2k3> i just ask linusn later, he can do it in 5 seconds
03.44.51 #       <BoD[]> well I'm sure that
03.44.58 #       <BoD[]> now you have a working dev kit
03.45.08 #       <BoD[]> he can just tell you what to change :)
03.46.13 #       <midknight2k3> then i can learn! yoohoo
03.46.21 #       <midknight2k3> at least i can now compile and decompile
03.46.23 #       <BoD[]> yeap :)
03.46.31 #       <midknight2k3> thanks to bod
03.46.37 #       <midknight2k3> thanks a whole bunch bod
03.47.09 #       <BoD[]> well you mean thanks to that Roland guy :)
03.47.19 #       <midknight2k3> no
03.47.20 #       <BoD[]> he made the windows devkit
03.47.22 #       <midknight2k3> thanks to you
03.47.40 #       <midknight2k3> like i would have got past step 2 without you
03.47.47 #       <BoD[]> haha :) why not
03.47.54 #       <midknight2k3> you helped a lot
03.47.59 #       <midknight2k3> i can't do it without your help
03.48.05 #       <BoD[]> well my pleasure
03.48.07 #       <midknight2k3> and that cvs checkout thing
03.48.15 #       <midknight2k3> i sure would have gotten that to work :)
03.48.20 #       <midknight2k3> anyhow i have to go now
03.48.22 #       <midknight2k3> bye
03.48.28 #       <BoD[]> me too 
03.48.29 #       <BoD[]> see you
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04.18.01 #       <tpelliott> I know this is off topic but does anyone know of a program like MP3DirectCut for mpg video files?
04.19.17 #       <tpelliott> I just got  an ATI All-In-Wonder video card and I want to trim out commercials before burning VCD's
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04.24.40 #       <diddystar5> humm  i don't think the favorites plugin should be put in cvs        you can just use dynamic playlists
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07.04.02 #       <earHurts> anyone here?
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07.26.49 #       <thu> earHurts: yo
07.27.20 #       <speudo> hey, i just wanna say great job... i think this is the first time in a long time i dont want to chuck my jukebox across the room.
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08.18.57 #       <earHurts> so it looks likw they may have a complete ring before too long
08.22.55 #       <thu> heh
08.23.15 #       <thu> earHurts: poll of the day: do you use non-ssl pop3 or imap to get your mail?
08.24.01 #       <earHurts> yes, pop3
08.24.05 #       <earHurts> why
08.24.53 #       <earHurts> ?
08.25.12 #       <thu> earHurts: oh just wondering
08.25.25 #       <thu> pop3 is plain text and can be sniffed by various people along the way
08.25.44 Ctcp    Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
08.25.44 #       * thu reading people's passwords
08.26.09 #       <earHurts> yes, I worry about that a bit
08.26.36 #       <earHurts> but given that the email is transmitted in the clear, there are larger holes
08.27.51 #       <thu> earHurts: well then do you use your mail password for anything else?
08.29.46 #       <earHurts> yes, my bank: www.steal.my.money.com
08.30.33 #       <thu> heh funny but I bet there's people doing that
08.30.44 #       <earHurts> sure they are
08.31.17 #       <earHurts> but they'll notice bank transfer to thu.com
08.31.27 #       <thu> thu.ch
08.31.41 #       <thu> I'm a professional
08.32.42 #       <earHurts> :)
08.33.08 #       <earHurts> god knows, a new email rfc is needed
08.33.58 #       <thu> smtp over ssl would suffice for now
08.35.30 #       <earHurts> yeah, but we also need a solution to spam
08.35.57 #       <thu> yeah.. a mandatory X-Spam flag
08.36.05 #       <thu> just like the slashdot evil bit
08.36.35 #       <earHurts> what, the evil bit isn't real?
08.36.58 #       <thu> sure it is.. they only covered it for.. uhm.. how many times?
08.37.15 #       <thu> PRINTER LOW ON  CHEESE
08.37.16 #       <thu> rotfl
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10.28.12 #       * Bagder looks around
10.28.18 #       <dwihno> Hej!
10.28.32 #       <Bagder> hey ho!
10.29.32 #       <dwihno> I'm no ho :(
10.29.47 #       <Bagder> ah, you're a hno!
10.29.56 #       <dwihno> I'm H2O
10.32.58 #       <dwihno> You are rombox?
10.33.10 #       <Bagder> not yet
10.33.18 #       <Bagder> back from vacation today
10.33.31 #       <Bagder> backlog from hell
10.34.42 #       <dwihno> Hell(tm) :)
10.34.44 #       <dwihno> Welcome back!
10.34.57 #       <Bagder> thanks ;-)
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12.49.47 #       <Bagder> code policing coming up
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13.05.49 #       <Hes> I'm surprised the function names were not policed in the flash plugin 8-)
13.06.01 #       <Bagder> nah
13.06.06 #       <Bagder> that would be more work ;-)
13.06.13 #       <Hes> ErazeSector 8-)
13.06.19 #       <Hes> 3l33t.
13.06.33 #       <Bagder> hehe
13.12.04 #       <dwihno> \o/ Bagder \o/
13.12.07 #       <dwihno> Yay for code police!
13.12.35 #       <dwihno> Bagder: are you gonna flash your box?
13.12.40 #       <Bagder> I am
13.12.45 #       <Bagder> but not today
13.12.52 #       <dwihno> it ruules!
13.12.55 #       <dwihno> Massively!
13.23.07 #       <Bagder> so you have it flashed then I take it?
13.23.54 #       <dwihno> Yes, I have.
13.24.00 #       <dwihno> Works like a charm
13.24.04 #       <dwihno> Minimal boot times.
13.24.16 #       <dwihno> (still archos' firmware backed up)
13.32.44 #       <dwihno> go ahead.
13.32.51 #       <dwihno> you know you want to do it
13.33.32 #       <Bagder> where is the flash docs btw?
13.39.57 #       <dwihno> There was a link in the mailing list.
13.42.27 #       <dwihno> http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/readme.txt
13.42.29 #       <dwihno> There U go
13.42.51 #       <Bagder> thanks
13.44.05 #       <dwihno> I did like this.
13.44.08 #       <dwihno> Got release2.zip from the same dir
13.44.14 #       <dwihno> Cooked a build
13.44.17 #       <dwihno> Installed
13.44.19 #       <dwihno> reflashed
13.44.27 #       <dwihno> (to fix the ata error + initial charging)
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14.03.40 #       <langhaarrocker> Hi
14.03.50 #       <Bagder> hi
14.04.37 #       <langhaarrocker> Do I see that right? If I want to do a split editor as a module it will become troublesome to access the mp3 buffer (scan for mp3 frames, set playback loop points, etc)
14.05.09 #       <Bagder> feel free to add more functions to the API if you should need any not currently supported
14.08.39 #       * langhaarrocker feels very bound by daily job :(
14.09.45 #       <langhaarrocker> Is there anybody around who by accident has found a source for broken jukebox buttons / headphone jacks?
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17.26.05 #       <msoultan> hello?
17.26.12 #       <hardeep> hi
17.27.01 #       <msoultan> i was playing with my recorder20 and it's doing something weird that I wanted to confirm if it's doing it on anyone elses...:
17.28.11 #       <msoultan> if I am holding the up button to scroll up through a bunch of files, if I scroll,and then tap up a few times, sometimes it'll jump into the settings menu
17.28.36 #       <msoultan> is there some kinda double up command that causes the settings menu to display?
17.30.05 #       <hardeep> msoultan: no, but sometimes an UP command is recognized as an F1 on certain devices
17.30.14 #       <msoultan> yeah..
17.30.16 #       <hardeep> msoultan: it's a hardware issue
17.30.20 #       <msoultan> ohh
17.30.21 #       <msoultan> ok
17.30.32 #       <msoultan> cool.. 
17.30.40 #       <msoultan> just thought I'd check
17.30.59 #       <msoultan> thanks for the info!
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17.33.07 #       <Lynx0> Hmm, why does the red litght not serve as a hd activity monitor when the box is connected via usb?
17.34.22 #       <hardeep> Lynx0: because rockbox is not controlling the device at that time
17.36.59 #       <Lynx0> Ah, ok. I thought it was because the battery status and so on are displayed
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21.56.13 #       <midknight2k3> i did it!
21.56.14 #       <midknight2k3> hahahaha
21.56.37 #       <midknight2k3> i dont care if no one else cares because i did it and it is so much better
21.58.26 #       <mecraw> what did you do?
21.59.01 #       <midknight2k3> i made the scroll speed setting sup to 50hz instead of 10 so now i can have a 1 pixel step and it goes quick enough so it looks very very nice
21.59.11 #       <midknight2k3> and i know no c
21.59.15 #       <midknight2k3> but who care
21.59.25 #       <midknight2k3> i am working on something else now
22.00.40 #       <mecraw> doesn't that take a lot of CPU power?  i think that was why it was limited to 10hz
22.01.05 #       <midknight2k3> i have no idea
22.01.05 #       <midknight2k3> i think they thought it would be blurry
22.01.11 #       <midknight2k3> i see
22.01.19 #       <midknight2k3> OS Stacks, scroll is 27%
22.01.22 #       <midknight2k3> not bad at all
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22.12.36 #       <midknight2k3> mecraw: is it simple to apply a patch file to the source before compiling?
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22.30.14 #       <tracktheripper> hey!!!
22.30.18 #       <tracktheripper> track is back
22.30.19 #       <tracktheripper> :D
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23.13.50 #       <Shujitzu> hey all
23.13.58 #       <mecraw> midknight2k3: it's not too bad, there is a page on the site about how to do it
23.14.09 #       <Shujitzu> anyone here can help me with my archos recorder 20
23.15.25 #       <mecraw> midknight2k3: http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/patch.html
23.15.37 #       <mecraw> Shujitzu: maybe, what's the problem?
23.17.20 #       <Shujitzu> my jukebox wont boot
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23.17.29 #       <Shujitzu> it keep saying hardisk error
23.17.45 #       <Shujitzu> i already change the batteries
23.18.11 #       <Shujitzu> and still hard disk error
23.18.17 #       <Shujitzu> any idea??? on this
23.18.56 #       <mecraw> scandisk
23.19.00 #       <Shujitzu> ive try searching their site but it keep coming up as a battery problem 
23.19.13 #       <Shujitzu> i cant run scan disk or reformat it
23.19.20 #       <Shujitzu> coz wen i connect it to my pc
23.19.43 #       <Shujitzu> it wont recognize it coz it saying on the player hard disk error
23.20.16 #       <Shujitzu> windows can recognized that something is connected to the usb
23.20.28 #       <mecraw> what if you only turn it on after you have it connected to usb
23.20.30 #       <Shujitzu> but the drive is not coming up on my my computer
23.20.47 #       <Shujitzu> same thing dude, hd error
23.21.01 #       <Shujitzu> any other idea
23.21.18 #       <Shujitzu> anything will do. il give it a try any idea you have
23.21.20 #       <mecraw> do you have rockbox flashed?
23.21.31 #       <Shujitzu> no i havent
23.21.47 #       <mecraw> i have no idea, sorry
23.22.30 #       <Galik> can u hear the disk power up?
23.22.31 #       <Shujitzu> thanks anyway. ill try to search the net for some answer coz archos support is crap. hehehe
23.22.59 #       <Shujitzu> will i be able to here something
23.23.10 #       <Shujitzu> as soon i turnit on
23.23.14 #       <Galik> On mine I can 'feel' the disk spinning
23.23.27 #       <Shujitzu> ill try that now. hold on
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23.24.30 #       <Galik> Also hold it to your ear and you should hear a healthe click...
23.24.38 #       <Galik> healthe=healthy
23.25.00 #       <Shujitzu> i cant hear n feel anything
23.25.06 #       <Galik> hmmm
23.25.12 #       <Shujitzu> nothing is happening i think
23.25.17 #       <Shujitzu> it just booting
23.25.24 #       <Shujitzu> then stops on 2 bars
23.25.28 #       <Galik> Then I would guess it's not powering up the HD
23.25.33 #       <Shujitzu> then a hard disk error appear
23.25.40 #       <juz`> hello sorry but i m french i want to know what is time spilt please 
23.25.41 #       <Shujitzu> ok
23.25.48 #       <Shujitzu> any idea how can i fix it
23.26.08 #       <Galik> Not much you can do outside the box probably
23.26.13 #       <Shujitzu> or do u know a site that gives info about it
23.26.15 #       <juz`> time split sorry
23.26.29 #       <Shujitzu> i can open it up and take it apart
23.26.30 #       <Shujitzu> hehehe
23.26.41 #       <Shujitzu> just need a guide or something
23.26.42 #       <Shujitzu> hehehe
23.26.43 #       <Galik> I'm not an expert but I would guess it needs fiddling around with inside
23.27.01 #       <Galik> check connections etc
23.27.16 #       <Shujitzu> any other sites about modifying or fidling about with it
23.28.14 #       <Galik> juz`: It is the amount of time before a new file is created when you are recording
23.28.59 #       <Galik> Shujitzu: http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/ has some info on opening your box
23.29.04 #       <Shujitzu> any other sites guys about archos recorder 
23.29.12 #       <Shujitzu> ok dude
23.29.18 #       <Shujitzu> thanks so much
23.29.24 #       <Galik> But you invalidate your warentee!
23.30.01 #       <Shujitzu> i dont care about the warranty dude. hehehe. i think their service is crap anyway
23.30.14 #       <Galik> lol
23.30.14 #       <Shujitzu> it will cost me more to get it to them and get it fix
23.30.25 #       <Shujitzu> than buying a new one
23.30.25 #       <Galik> good luck :)
23.30.29 #       <Shujitzu> hehehe
23.30.49 #       <Shujitzu> thanks again for the info. 
23.31.01 #       <Shujitzu> bye for now. ill go back in here if soething happen.
23.31.02 #       <Shujitzu> hehehe
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23.37.25 #       <juz`> thank you very much
23.38.09 #       <juz`> galik can you tell me how many time does it lost between the two file??
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23.38.18 #       <blastman007> help!
23.38.23 #       <blastman007> someone here?
23.39.52 #       <blastman007> heeEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeLp!
23.40.18 #       <juz`> i m here but t m not an expert what do you want
23.41.03 #       <blastman007> when i put the usb cable in my player then it makes sparks
23.41.21 #       <juz`> i m french what is sparks?
23.41.29 #       <blastman007> wait
23.42.02 #       <juz`> explain me with some words
23.42.03 #       <blastman007> foudre
23.42.04 #       <blastman007> ?
23.42.54 #       <juz`> no it s not it i think
23.43.01 #       <blastman007> what?
23.43.20 #       <Galik> juz`: I doubt if it loses any time but I have not tested it
23.43.41 #       <juz`> ok thank you i ll test it
23.43.48 #       <blastman007> what what what?
23.44.36 #       <juz`> i think sparks is not foudre but explain me with another words what happened
23.44.37 #       <Galik> juz`: sparks = comme le bomb avant que ill explode
23.44.48 #       <blastman007> omg my player sparkes
23.45.01 #       <Galik> blastman007: But does it still work?
23.45.19 #       <Galik> It's not ticking is it?
23.45.22 #       <blastman007> like fireworks
23.45.47 #       <juz`> ok i undertand
23.45.52 #       <blastman007> sparks spray 5cm !
23.46.03 #       <juz`> ?
23.46.10 #       <blastman007> usb cable 2cm charger cable 5cm
23.46.53 #       <blastman007> is my player electrically charged ??? the case`
23.46.55 #       <Galik> blastman007: I don't completely understand. Do you want help with this or are you just boasting?
23.47.01 #       <Galik> :)
23.47.16 #       <blastman007> NO
23.47.25 #       * Galik doesn't get sparks from his player
23.47.28 #       <blastman007> this is damaging the player, or not?
23.47.33 #       * Galik is a bit jelouse
23.47.46 #       <juz`> lol
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23.47.52 #       <Galik> Don't know. Does it still work?
23.47.57 #       <Guest> test
23.47.58 #       <blastman007> yes
23.48.04 #       <Galik> Thats good
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23.48.07 #       <blastman007> i hear music
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23.48.23 #       <Galik> errrm are the sparks continuouse?
23.48.30 #       <juz`> sorry blastman007 but it s impossible
23.48.33 #       <Galik> or every now and then?
23.48.41 #       <blastman007> but it hurts me seeing this
23.48.50 #       <blastman007> what
23.49.08 #       <juz`> a sparks of 5cm with 9V and 600mA
23.49.19 #       <Galik> the sparks? are they all the time or now and again?
23.49.21 #       <blastman007> 5 v?
23.49.38 #       <blastman007> only when i put it in when its cabled it stops
23.49.42 #       <juz`> the voltage of tour charger
23.49.48 #       <blastman007> ah
23.49.51 #       <tracktheripper> hi guyys
23.49.55 #       <blastman007> hi
23.50.03 #       <Galik> lo tracktheripper
23.50.09 #       <tracktheripper> hi Blast and Galik
23.50.10 #       <tracktheripper> :)
23.50.14 #       <Galik> :)
23.50.17 #       <Galik> long time
23.50.48 #       <blastman007> m ypoor playef
23.51.00 #       <Galik> blastman007: Do you have any other usb devices and do they do the same thing?
23.51.25 #       <blastman007> no its not only usb its even with line in
23.51.39 #       <Galik> oooh....
23.51.47 #       <Galik> So the case is live?
23.51.54 #       <blastman007> lliveß
23.51.57 #       <blastman007> live?
23.52.04 #       <Galik> live!
23.52.15 #       <Galik> As in electric
23.52.20 #       <Galik> charged
23.52.21 #       <blastman007> mybe
23.52.28 #       <Galik> hmmmm
23.52.36 #       <Galik> I don't think thats normal
23.52.57 #       <blastman007> me 2 !
23.54.03 #       <Galik> Is it plugged into the mains?
23.54.38 #       <blastman007> mains ?
23.54.58 #       <Galik> Yes. Is it plugged into the charger unit
23.55.22 #       <blastman007> yes ?
23.55.29 #       <blastman007> unit?
23.55.31 #       <Galik> Your not sure?
23.55.38 #       <blastman007> whats a unit=
23.55.55 #       <Galik> The black box you plug into the wall and the jukebox at the same time
23.56.11 #       <Galik> to charge it up
23.56.13 #       <blastman007> the black box is allways plugged
23.56.25 #       <blastman007> but not allways on the player
23.56.39 #       <Galik> Is it on the player right now?
23.56.43 #       <blastman007> yes
23.57.01 #       <blastman007> but i think it is not charin right now
23.57.12 #       <Galik> Do you still get sparks from the usb when u unplug the black box?
23.57.26 #       <blastman007> mo i test
23.57.34 #       <Galik> be careful...
23.57.53 #       <blastman007> no
23.57.57 #       <blastman007> not now
23.58.02 #       <Galik> cool
23.58.15 #       <Galik> I am not an expert but
23.58.22 #       <blastman007> but the computer has the same effect normaly or?
23.58.30 #       <Galik> I recommend you try a different black box
23.58.48 #       <Galik> computer?