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01.43.30 #       <pppu> hi i've been loking at some previous posts about the possibility of playing wav files
01.43.43 #       <tracktheripper> pppu the MAS cannot play wav only mp3
01.44.37 #       <pppu> the reason given seems to be that the serial connection from the sh1 to the mas3507 can only go to 1mbits
01.45.30 #       <pppu> continuing how was this worked out thsis is assoming that the 3507 data can be found to reprogram it
01.46.48 #       <tracktheripper> yea but could it play wav at 44,100Khz  16bit
01.46.59 #       <tracktheripper> i.e the same sound quality as CD
01.47.22 #       <pppu> is there a posssibility that a hardware mod could be made to have a direct serial i2s lionk from the sh1 to the 3550
01.47.31 #       <tracktheripper> ask Bjorn and co
01.47.35 #       <tracktheripper> because I don't know
01.48.20 #       <pppu> thanks bye
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02.03.54 #       <REBELinBLUE> hey
02.04.34 #       <REBELinBLUE> does anyone know if there is an particular reason for ucl files to only be supported on the recorder, not the FMR?
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02.53.13 #       <earHurts> hello?
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03.01.40 #       <tracktheripper> hi
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03.04.29 #       <earHurts> hey
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03.45.10 #       <thu> ehlo earHurts
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04.15.49 #       <Bluechip> i have fixed the main display bug for the simulator - anyone care to suggest the best way to submit it?
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06.16.54 #       <thu> anyone alive?
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06.21.36 #       <midknight2k3> hello
06.23.13 #       <thu> helo midknight2k3
06.23.26 #       <midknight2k3> hello thu
06.24.43 #       * thu working on a deejay script
06.24.59 #       * midknight2k3 browing lots of patch activity\
06.28.05 #       <thu> I wonder if there is an easy way to add a few secs of sound to the beginning of a mp3
06.28.20 #       <thu> without decoding/encoding the whole thing
06.31.23 #       <midknight2k3> mm
06.31.27 #       <midknight2k3> not sure
06.32.28 #       <thu> I'm working on a script that will create short files with the name of files spoken out
06.32.44 #       <midknight2k3> for rockbox?
06.32.47 #       <midknight2k3> or computer?
06.32.52 #       <thu> computer of course
06.32.58 #       <midknight2k3> lol
06.33.00 #       <thu> no way to do text to speech on the archos
06.33.05 #       <midknight2k3> there's always hope
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06.38.35 #       <midknight2k3> bye
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11.54.29 #       <earHurts> hello?
11.58.53 #       <Nibbler> lo
11.59.31 #       <earHurts>  is there a text wrapping algorythm in rockbox?
12.00.12 #       <Nibbler> not in my old outdated version
12.00.18 #       <earHurts> doesn't splash screen wrap?
12.03.53 #       <Nibbler> wrap?
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12.04.57 #       <earHurts> create a line break if a word would be broken between two lines
12.05.22 #       <earHurts> for example,
12.05.30 #       <earHurts> like this
12.05.37 #       <earHurts> rather than for exam
12.05.42 #       <earHurts> ple like this
12.11.26 #       <Nibbler> but splash-screen is known size, and its graphics
12.11.31 #       <Nibbler> why would it need wrap?
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12.26.25 #       <earHurts> in case the srring is too long for the screen you knoe really long abd all rambling and long and stuff
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12.38.45 #       <nevs> hello
12.39.07 #       <earHurts> hello
12.40.01 #       <nevs> hey earl
12.40.16 #       <nevs> my archos
12.40.49 #       <nevs> i cahrged it for a  like 4 hours, and i got less than half an hour playing time , at nearly the lowest volume ?
12.41.04 #       <nevs> why
12.41.48 #       <nevs> earl?
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12.46.15 #       <nevs> hey
12.48.56 #       <nevs> hello
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12.49.00 #       <nevs> 11hello
12.49.08 #       <nevs> 9anyone here
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12.53.38 #       <tracktheripper> hi
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13.34.32 #       <earHurts> anyone here?
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14.53.59 #       <elinenbe> blah I just received my first Red Light of Death -- it gave me some error like "can  not access sec 13" and then just stopped working.
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15.30.43 #       <nevs> hey
15.30.59 #       <Baka^Ni> hey
15.31.50 #       <nevs> do u know alot about arcgos studio 20 player?
15.32.44 #       <Baka^Ni> I know that if I break my current rockbox then I have a chance of owning one
15.32.47 #       <Baka^Ni> apart from that, nope
15.34.18 #       <nevs> ?
15.34.27 #       <nevs> what rock box?
15.34.47 #       <Baka^Ni> archos jukebox + rockbox = rockbox
15.35.04 #       <Baka^Ni> becauase the archos software sucks
15.35.09 #       <Baka^Ni> *because
15.36.44 #       <nevs> yeah i know archos software sucks
15.37.01 #       <nevs> but why will u have a chance of owning one
15.38.07 #       <Baka^Ni> was given a warrenty w/ my product when I bought it, that is, if they can't fix it, they give me another, however archos doesn't make my product anymore, so they are forced to replace it with an equivilant product =), ie, upgrade
15.38.11 #       <Baka^Ni> its happened twice already
15.38.36 #       <nevs> what did u have before
15.38.41 #       <nevs> archos 6000?
15.38.47 #       <Baka^Ni> yeah
15.38.54 #       <Baka^Ni> then a recorder 6gb I think
15.38.58 #       <Baka^Ni> now a rec 10gb
15.39.00 #       <nevs> so now you getting archos studio 20
15.39.05 #       <nevs> oh rec 10
15.39.08 #       <nevs> cool
15.39.14 #       <Baka^Ni> "when" I break this one
15.39.19 #       <Baka^Ni> I will push for a recorder 20
15.39.20 #       <nevs> lol!
15.39.27 #       <nevs> i got studio 20
15.39.31 #       <Baka^Ni> because the recorder is such a better product
15.39.35 #       <nevs> i dont think i need a recoreder
15.39.42 #       <Baka^Ni> neither do I
15.39.48 #       <Baka^Ni> I find the recorder sounds better
15.39.53 #       <Baka^Ni> and has games and the like ;)
15.39.55 #       <nevs> becuase are u gonna record from an audio source?
15.40.04 #       <nevs> or just use kazaa and drag and drop
15.40.06 #       <Baka^Ni> ^^
15.40.14 #       <nevs> exactly
15.40.20 #       <nevs> thats why i got studio
15.40.30 #       <Baka^Ni> I prefer the screen of the recorder
15.40.36 #       <Baka^Ni> higher res
15.40.44 #       <Baka^Ni> can play tetris
15.40.59 #       <Baka^Ni> and the archos 6000's sound was terrible
15.41.08 #       <Baka^Ni> might be different w/ studio editions
15.41.34 #       <nevs> yeah
15.41.38 #       <Baka^Ni> what did you want to know about your studio 20?
15.41.46 #       <nevs> i dont buy a mp3 recorder to play games, i use my pc! lol
15.42.06 #       <nevs> erm well by batteries go so flat so quick
15.42.10 #       <nevs> my*
15.42.10 #       <Baka^Ni> heh, its good for recording ppl on the sly
15.42.19 #       <Baka^Ni> you tried charging it when its not turned on?
15.42.20 #       <nevs> yeah
15.42.29 #       <nevs> how do u do that
15.43.09 #       <nevs> cuase its always on when u charge because it says battery charging
15.43.32 #       <Baka^Ni> well, charging outside of the firmware
15.43.43 #       <nevs> ?
15.43.48 #       <nevs> how
15.43.58 #       <Baka^Ni> just plug it in, without turning it on
15.44.08 #       <Baka^Ni> will charge it without the firmware
15.45.16 #       <nevs> but when u plug in, i says " battering charging" -- im not using rock box yet
15.46.02 #       <nevs> and i think i may buy some new batteries
15.46.09 #       <Baka^Ni> it might not be them
15.46.19 #       <Baka^Ni> because I had that prob
15.46.24 #       <Baka^Ni> does it charge quickly too?
15.47.09 #       <nevs> i have never seen the screen say "battery charged" like it should do
15.47.42 #       <Baka^Ni> well I'm not sure, but the old non-recorder versions would charge forever if you let them
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15.47.56 #       <Baka^Ni> have you left it for say a day or so charging?
15.48.08 #       <Baka^Ni> :|
15.48.16 #       <Baka^Ni> is the site ok?
15.48.19 #       <Baka^Ni> I can't connect to it
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15.48.54 #       <nevs> hey im back
15.50.46 #       <Baka^Ni> one second
15.50.52 #       <Baka^Ni> having to swap keyboards
15.51.17 #       <nevs> why?
15.52.13 #       <Baka^Ni> a few keys have just died randomly on my linux box
15.52.17 #       <Baka^Ni> vital ones
15.52.20 #       <Baka^Ni> such as e and t
15.58.12 #       <nevs> lol
15.58.31 #       <nevs> do u know alot about computers?
15.58.56 #       <nevs> ?
15.59.27 #       <Baka^Ni> I'd like to think I do
15.59.39 #       <nevs> well
15.59.44 #       <nevs> i have a ge force ti 200
15.59.58 #       <nevs> and i want a dual monitor setup
16.00.05 #       <Baka^Ni> you mean 4200?
16.00.18 #       <nevs> ge force 3 ti 200
16.00.23 #       <Baka^Ni> ah righty
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16.00.54 #       <nevs> on theback of the card it has 3 slots , the monitor, s video and a dvi input
16.01.25 #       <nevs> aparantly if i get a an  adapter for the dvi slot to vga then i can use that
16.01.30 #       <Baka^Ni> yup
16.01.55 #       <nevs> look at this  
16.01.58 #       <nevs> damm
16.02.13 #       <nevs> cant  paste on chat rrom
16.02.29 #       <Baka^Ni> you not using a real irc client?
16.02.29 #       <nevs> i got a link
16.02.37 #       <nevs> no java
16.02.46 #       <Baka^Ni> lazy
16.02.47 #       <Baka^Ni> :P
16.02.50 #       <nevs> lol!
16.02.55 #       <nevs> i know i am
16.03.01 #       <nevs> u have msn messenger?
16.03.10 #       <Baka^Ni> nope
16.03.22 #       <Baka^Ni> won't run under debian
16.03.30 #       <Baka^Ni> besides, concept of the thing :D
16.03.46 #       <nevs> ok go to www.expertexchange.com
16.04.07 #       <nevs> oh no sorry its www.experts-exchange.com
16.04.35 #       <nevs> hang on
16.04.42 #       <nevs> im gonna download the full irc
16.04.47 #       <nevs> brb
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16.04.51 #       <Baka^Ni> kk
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16.08.07 #       <Guest> hey its nevs how to i get full irc
16.08.20 #       <Baka^Ni> lol
16.08.23 #       <Nibbler> what?
16.08.24 #       <Baka^Ni> www.mirc.co.iuk
16.08.27 #       <Baka^Ni> mirc.co.uk
16.08.29 #       <Nibbler> -i
16.09.23 #       <Guest> im donwloading it now
16.09.35 #       <Guest> what can i do with dual monitor
16.10.03 #       <Nibbler> ummmm, see twice as much as with single monitor?
16.10.08 #       <Baka^Ni> run one application in one windows
16.10.13 #       <Baka^Ni> and other in another
16.10.15 #       <Baka^Ni> e.g.
16.10.17 #       <Baka^Ni> surf with one
16.10.25 #       <Baka^Ni> run office with the other
16.10.44 #       <Baka^Ni> I personally have't bothered to play with it
16.10.44 #       <Nibbler> its gr8 for developing, source in one window, application/result in other
16.11.00 #       <Baka^Ni> my mate enjoys that
16.11.02 #       <Guest> what about for game
16.11.10 #       <Guest> games*
16.11.12 #       <Nibbler> dont know games that support that 
16.11.14 #       <Baka^Ni> IF
16.11.15 #       <Baka^Ni> it worked
16.11.25 #       <Baka^Ni> your performance would suffer greatly
16.11.28 #       <Baka^Ni> if you think about it
16.11.30 #       <Nibbler> but u still have a big border between the screens, at least some 5 cm
16.11.46 #       <Baka^Ni> I can only think of two games it would work with
16.11.47 #       <Baka^Ni> e.g.
16.11.51 #       <Baka^Ni> m$ flight sim
16.11.54 #       <Baka^Ni> and Uplink
16.12.19 #       <Nibbler> when i first had dual monitor with win98 a good AGP and a old PCI adapter, windows kept crashing when i moved my openGL window to the old pci-card monitor :)
16.12.34 #       <Baka^Ni> understandable
16.12.40 #       <Nibbler> yus :-) 
16.12.53 #       <Nibbler> was just curious in which way it would crash :]
16.13.08 #       <Guest> ok what about if i got amd athlon 1ghz, 512mb ram, 64 mb ddr ge force 3 ti 200, win 98 se, that ok for dual monitor?
16.13.42 #       <Baka^Ni> should be
16.13.49 #       <Baka^Ni> win 98 sucks though
16.13.57 #       <Nibbler> depends on what u wanna do with dual monitor
16.14.01 #       <Guest> win 98 se dont suck
16.14.11 #       <Baka^Ni> only reason you might want it is to run legacy applications
16.14.12 #       <Nibbler> well, it does if it comes to stability
16.14.41 #       <Nibbler> oh, i forgot, i got dual monitor right now aswell :-) but with same content on both monitors.... 
16.14.53 #       <Baka^Ni> point? :)
16.15.03 #       <Baka^Ni> might as well surf and irc :P
16.15.06 #       <Nibbler> one monitor is my beamer which i only switch on to watch movies :)
16.15.14 #       <Baka^Ni> heh, ah
16.15.18 #       <Nibbler> so i have to reconfigure nothing, just switch it on...
16.15.54 #       <Guest> how do i connect the mirc to this server
16.16.00 #       <Baka^Ni> well, if I get a dual moniter setup
16.16.02 #       <Baka^Ni> goto
16.16.05 #       <Baka^Ni> irc.freenode.org
16.16.06 #       <Nibbler> ./server irc.freenode.org
16.16.11 #       <Baka^Ni> yah
16.16.15 #       <Nibbler> without the .
16.16.18 #       <Nibbler> ofc :-)
16.16.21 #       <Baka^Ni> then I'd have to invest in a dual eye setup
16.16.34 #       <Nibbler> oh yes, dual eye i have aswell
16.16.39 #       <Baka^Ni> lucky bugger
16.16.51 #       <Nibbler> well, last time i checked a mirror i had 2 eyes at least....
16.16.53 #       <Baka^Ni> do you find you get headaches if you move quickly?
16.17.00 #       <Baka^Ni> heh
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16.17.10 #       * Nibbler wonders what else dual eye might be
16.17.26 #       <Guest> i cant connect
16.17.27 #       * Baka^Ni was thinking of at least 4
16.17.45 #       <Nibbler> ;-)
16.17.48 #       <Nibbler> what does it say?
16.17.51 #       <Baka^Ni> brb, keyboard swappage again
16.17.53 #       <Guest> do i press join channel?
16.18.00 #       <Nibbler> ./join #rockbox
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16.23.45 #       <nevs> hello
16.24.01 #       <nevs> ok it works now
16.24.07 #       <Nibbler> :-)
16.24.10 #       <Nibbler> \o/
16.24.16 #       <nevs> http://dmzweb3.europe.creative.com/htmlhelp/graphics/geforce/images/graphics_tv_image9.gif
16.24.25 #       <nevs> look at that link,
16.24.39 #       <Nibbler> yus
16.24.47 #       <nevs> i can get an dapter to connect to that dvi port yes?
16.25.02 #       <Nibbler> i use a dvi2rgb adapter
16.25.08 #       <Nibbler> it came with my gfxcard
16.25.28 #       <nevs> so if i want to connect a normal crt monitor i use an dapter vga to dvi
16.25.45 #       <Nibbler> i tried this with 2 cards and it worked 
16.25.48 #       <Nibbler> with both.
16.26.05 #       <Nibbler> dont know if this is a general "yes it always works"
16.26.11 #       <Nibbler> but i think so
16.26.56 #       <Baka^Ni> I think its like ps/2 to serial converts
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16.27.03 #       <Baka^Ni> works for me
16.27.26 #       <nevs> go to www.dabs.com
16.27.47 #       <nevs> then use the quick linx code  10F9WS and look at the porduct and tell me what u think
16.28.19 #       <Baka^Ni> expensive
16.28.31 #       <nevs> only £14
16.28.41 #       <nevs> but will that work right
16.28.48 #       <Baka^Ni> £10 more then I would think it would be worth :)
16.28.51 #       <Baka^Ni> should do
16.28.59 #       <Nibbler> for normal those adapsters come with your gfx card
16.29.04 #       <Baka^Ni> why is the description for the belkin cabling?
16.29.05 #       <nevs> didnt get one
16.29.13 #       <Nibbler> what card u have?
16.29.21 #       <nevs> ge force 3 ti 200
16.30.11 #       <nevs> well can u find me a place in the uk where i can buy this kind of adaptor
16.30.20 #       <Baka^Ni> dabs is uk, no?
16.30.30 #       <Nibbler> im not uk, so i have no idea bout uk :(
16.30.32 #       <Baka^Ni> you can try aria.co.uk
16.30.32 #       <nevs> yes
16.30.37 #       <nevs> ok
16.30.40 #       <nevs> i will
16.30.41 #       <Baka^Ni> they have lots of random stuff
16.30.49 #       <Baka^Ni> and redstore.com
16.30.57 #       <Baka^Ni> tekhead.co.uk
16.30.58 #       <Baka^Ni> etc.
16.31.04 #       <Baka^Ni> tekheads
16.32.21 #       <nevs> im look at aria.co.uk
16.32.28 #       <nevs> looking*
16.34.30 #       <nevs> found one
16.34.41 #       <nevs> http://www.aria.co.uk/ProductsList.asp?Category=3&page=2
16.34.54 #       <nevs> right at the bottom of the page
16.35.12 #       <Baka^Ni> there you go
16.35.16 #       <Baka^Ni> told you £14 was a rip off :)
16.35.30 #       <nevs> ok
16.35.39 #       <nevs> ill buy it
16.36.51 #       <nevs> its gonna cost me £15
16.37.17 #       <Baka^Ni> ?
16.37.26 #       <Baka^Ni> the delivery is like £10 or something?
16.37.26 #       <nevs> order handling charge is 6.90
16.37.33 #       <Baka^Ni> ouch
16.37.49 #       <nevs> is 6.95
16.38.00 #       <nevs> just for that!
16.38.04 #       <nevs> bloddy hell
16.38.45 #       <nevs> ill look at teckheads
16.39.45 #       <nevs> cant find anything there
16.39.57 #       <Baka^Ni> they like expensive hardware
16.40.38 #       <nevs> ill try redstore
16.43.21 #       <nevs> is it worth buying from aria becuase on dabs that price was not including the shipping charge
16.47.46 #       <nevs> hello is anyone here
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16.54.40 #       <Baka^Ni> find out 
16.54.42 #       <Baka^Ni> the shipping
16.54.46 #       <Baka^Ni> then buy
16.54.47 #       <Baka^Ni> cheaper
16.55.09 #       <nevs> where
16.55.23 #       <Baka^Ni> where ever is cheaper
16.56.30 #       <nevs> yeah
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17.01.09 #       <nevs> hey
17.01.15 #       <nevs> i found it at amazon.co.uk
17.01.30 #       <nevs> £12 including shipping
17.04.36 #       <Baka^Ni> good good
17.04.37 #       <Baka^Ni> gaming
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17.07.22 #       <nevs> yeah so ill buy it from amazon
17.07.31 #       <nevs> then ill use 2 monitors
17.07.51 #       <nevs> good for fsim century of flight
17.13.58 #       <nevs> cya im going to go
17.14.01 #       <nevs> bye
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17.21.26 #       <Chixofnix> Hi is anyone around right now?
17.22.28 #       <Chixofnix> no?
17.22.59 #       <Chixofnix> guess i'll check back later then... i'm having a big issue w/ my recorder 15 using rockbox 2.0
17.23.10 #       <Chixofnix> i'll pop back in sometime!
17.23.12 #       <Chixofnix> ;)
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18.15.22 #       <Chixofnix> Hi is anyone around right now?
18.15.37 #       <JorBond> i have a problem with my jukebox studio 20, when i plug it in to the ac adapter and have it playing music, after about 20min it will start making a high pitched soung out of the unit
18.15.53 #       <JorBond> the music usually still goes on but i have to shut it off for it to go away
18.16.00 #       <Chixofnix> i've got a problem myself...
18.16.13 #       <JorBond> it has happened to me 3 times since i bought it a week and a half ago :(
18.17.04 #       <hardeep> JorBond: that sounds like a hardware problem
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18.17.27 #       <JorBond> i know but is it fixable or should i take it back and get a new unit
18.17.59 #       <hardeep> JorBond: if it's only a couple of weeks, i'd recommend returning it instead of opening up the unit
18.18.21 #       <hardeep> Chixofnix: what problem are you encountering?
18.19.49 #       <Chixofnix> Here's my problem:  a while back i formatted my recorder 15 (i was using it to transfer a bunch of stuff between computers and figured i may as well format it since i'd be deleting everything)... anyway, i threw rockbox 2.0 on there, and then disconnected and started charging it.  Now, When i connect the thing to the computer (using win xp home), i get the two little 'device connected' icons in the taskbar, and when i hold my mouse...
18.20.02 #       <Chixofnix> over them they say device connected - Drive ()
18.20.16 #       <Chixofnix> (no drive letter in the parentheses) 
18.20.32 #       <Chixofnix> and the recorder no longer shows up in My Computer...
18.21.07 #       <Chixofnix> and now i'm a little worried :)
18.21.09 #       <JorBond> did u wait a while, my xp box sometimes takes 5 min to show up
18.22.12 #       <Chixofnix> hmm... well it showed up almost immediately prior to this... but i'll leave it on for awhile and see if that makes a diff...
18.22.30 #       <hardeep> Chixofnix: do you see the USB icon on the recorder when you plug it in?
18.22.36 #       <Chixofnix> yep
18.22.55 #       <JorBond> also, when i try to compile rockbox why does it need sh-elf-gcc, is that different then gcc
18.22.55 #       <hardeep> Chixofnix: okay, then everything is correct on the device.  sounds like a windows issue
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18.23.11 #       <Chixofnix> i tried reinstalling the drivers... yea so something must be up here
18.23.13 #       <hardeep> Chixofnix: try reinstalling drivers maybe?
18.23.27 #       <Chixofnix> good timing ;) yepyep
18.23.52 #       <hardeep> JorBond: the processor on the jukebox is an SH1 so we need to cross-compile the software for it
18.24.16 #       <hardeep> JorBond: sh-elf-gcc is just the sh1 version of the gcc compiler
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18.24.52 #       <Chixofnix> hmm... i just now connected it and the little icons in the taskbar aren't showing up... o_O
18.25.07 #       <langhaarrocker> Hi. I'm a bit insecure: Does Win2k have the isd200 driver built in?
18.25.19 #       <JorBond> oh ok, thought it was just talking about the elf execs on linux
18.26.45 #       <hardeep> langhaarrocker: isd200 is the usb1.1 version right?  if so, then no, win2k doesn't come with it
18.26.55 #       <Chixofnix> oh wait... the usb in the recorder's display just dissappeared, showed the root folder's contents, then went back to the USB symbol... does that mean something?
18.26.56 #       <langhaarrocker> :( thanx
18.27.39 #       <Chixofnix> still no taskbar symols...
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18.27.47 #       <hardeep> Chixofnix: dunno
18.28.35 #       <Chixofnix> ...
18.28.52 #       <Chixofnix> suppose i should try with a friend's compy sometime
18.29.32 #       <Chixofnix> it just did the root directory flashy thing again...
18.29.49 #       <Chixofnix> jumped back to USB connected symbol...
18.30.04 #       <Chixofnix> I feel like a concerned parent :/
18.30.29 #       <Chixofnix> hope my baby's alright :)
18.30.34 #       <JorBond> lol
18.31.07 #       <Chixofnix> oh BTW sorry for not saying this earlier, but I LOVE rockbox!
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18.31.18 #       <Chixofnix> the work you fellas put out on this is amazing
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18.31.59 #       <Chixofnix> I've convinced 3 friends to buy Archos mp3 players/HDDs, and they're all using rockbox
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18.32.23 #       <Chixofnix> just thought i'd throw in my 2cnts
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18.35.01 #       <nevs> hello
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18.35.43 #       <nixofchix> ? i got diconnected but i'm still connected?
18.35.45 #       <nixofchix> well anyway
18.35.59 #       <nixofchix> one reads safely remove hardware,
18.36.09 #       <nixofchix> but the other reads "no drives detected"  ?
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18.36.51 #       <nixofchix> did neone hear that?
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18.37.10 NJoin   Harlequin [0] (~SimonB@gromit.eng.eircom.net)
18.37.25 #       <nixofchix> why did we just diconnect?
18.38.10 #       <nevs> hey
18.41.16 #       <nevs> hey guys
18.41.20 #       <nevs> u wanna see something
18.41.25 #       <nevs> go to google,com
18.41.29 #       <nevs> google.com
18.41.53 #       <nevs> then type in weapons of mass destruction, then press on "im feeling lucky button"
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18.42.59 #       <nevs> hello anyone here
18.43.09 #       <scott666> me
18.43.22 #       <nevs> hy scott
18.43.27 #       <scott666> hey
18.43.33 #       <nevs> did u look at that google thing i told u
18.43.42 #       <scott666> ive seen it before
18.43.48 #       <nevs> its funny aint it
18.43.51 #       <scott666> the fake IE error
18.43.52 #       <scott666> yeah
18.45.49 NJoin   Chixofnix [0] (Chixofnix@rn-205-248.reshall.k-state.net)
18.46.03 #       <Chixofnix> hey my compy just crashed!!! ah!
18.46.12 #       <scott666> heh
18.46.19 #       <Chixofnix> telling me it was a device driver... :/
18.46.26 #       <Chixofnix> bleh
18.46.29 #       <Chixofnix> anyway
18.46.39 #       <Chixofnix> so did anyone catch my problem?
18.47.04 #       <scott666> no?
18.47.21 #       <Chixofnix> hmm is that a Q or A?
18.47.38 #       <scott666> yes
18.47.46 #       <Chixofnix> false!
18.47.53 #       <scott666> maybe!
18.47.57 #       <Chixofnix> um...
18.48.01 #       <Chixofnix> all of the above?
18.48.06 #       <scott666> C
18.48.18 #       <Chixofnix> okaaaay
18.48.18 #       <Chixofnix> so
18.48.28 #       <Chixofnix> here's my problem.... again
18.48.31 #       <scott666> ok
18.48.54 #       <Chixofnix> well okay here's the history prior to my problem first... o_O
18.49.33 #       <Chixofnix> short version: formatted the drive on my recorder 15, threw rockbox v2.0 on there, diconnected, charged, reconnected - now it's buggy
18.49.55 NJoin   Baka^Ni|WC3 [0] (~george@collcott.demon.co.uk)
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18.49.58 #       <Chixofnix> buggy in the sense that windows is having trouble recognizing the drive
18.50.10 #       <scott666> what version of windows?
18.50.12 #       <Chixofnix> it'll tell me that there's a device connected, but it doesn't know what it is
18.50.12 #       <scott666> xp?
18.50.26 #       <Chixofnix> xp home, and i've tried reinstalling the drivers
18.50.52 #       <scott666> you formatted it as a fat32 right?
18.51.00 #       <Chixofnix> um i believe so
18.51.23 #       <Chixofnix> the recorder is working fine on its own, and the USB connected symbol shows up when i do connect it
18.51.42 #       <Chixofnix> thought it occasionally flashes back to the root directory and then back to the USB symbol
18.52.05 #       <Chixofnix> but yea it doesn't show up in My Computer anymore
18.52.29 #       <Chixofnix> I was just trying to troubleshoot it with windows (yea i know that sucks), when windows crashed
18.52.29 #       <scott666> hmmm
18.52.54 #       <Chixofnix> booted back up, told me i had a device error (though that may not be the recorder's fault...)
18.52.55 #       <scott666> i have 98se, so i dont really have any suggestions
18.53.09 #       <Chixofnix> hmm
18.53.20 #       <nevs> u got the xp drivers yeah
18.53.57 #       <Chixofnix> yeah... but i'll double check, maybe i downloaded it corrupted or something along those lines... ?
18.54.24 #       <nevs> well also have u got ur m board drivers , the latest ones?
18.54.59 #       <Chixofnix> yep... using and epox 8rda+ 
18.55.36 #       <Chixofnix> well actually the sound drivers just had an update, but i doubt that has anything to do with this particular problem
18.55.48 #       <nevs> erm
18.56.07 #       <nevs> ive noticed this as well
18.56.16 #       <nevs> i had this probelm with someone pc
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18.56.30 #       <Chixofnix> !! ooh i hope you found a fix!
18.56.35 #       <Chixofnix> ?
18.57.12 #       <nevs> when u connect the archos to the usb port, it recogniszses it, u install the driverrs to part where it says copying the inf files then it doesnt go anywhere from there
18.57.44 #       <scott666> i thought XP came with the drivers?
18.58.06 #       <nevs> if u go to archos.com get the xp usb drivers
18.58.11 #       <Chixofnix> hmm well i haven't actually had any trouble installing the drivers...
18.58.15 #       <Chixofnix> but yea i'm doing that now
18.58.24 #       <Chixofnix> gonna try to re-reinstall the suckers
18.59.10 #       <nevs> hey does anyone have kazaa here
18.59.20 #       <Chixofnix> scared of kazaa myself
18.59.37 #       <Chixofnix> RIAA hasn't arrested anyone using IRC yet
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18.59.53 #       <nevs> whats wrong with irc
18.59.57 #       <Chixofnix> sorry just thought i'd throw that in :)
19.00.10 #       <Chixofnix> mm? nothing that i'm aware of
19.00.36 #       <Chixofnix> the RIAA has been arresting Kazaa users is all
19.01.03 #       <nevs> fuck riaa
19.03.34 #       <scott666> fuck kazaa
19.03.40 #       <scott666> and the riaa
19.03.47 #       <scott666> spyware = bad
19.04.01 #       <scott666> kazaa = spyware
19.04.04 #       <scott666> kazaa = bad
19.04.22 #       <scott666> winmx, repesent
19.04.34 #       <nevs> no
19.04.45 #       <nevs> what does the spyware do
19.05.06 #       <scott666> spy on you...duh
19.05.15 #       <scott666> oh and adware too
19.05.30 #       <nevs> like what
19.05.54 #       <scott666> download a spyware cleaning program and run it and see how much it finds
19.06.04 #       <nevs> ok
19.06.06 #       <nevs> name one
19.06.24 #       <scott666> do a google search for spybot search&destroy or adaware
19.07.05 #       <Chixofnix> i've heard kazaalite isn't too bad
19.07.16 #       <Chixofnix> but it's still kazaa... yuck
19.07.23 #       <scott666> www.winmx.com
19.07.40 #       <Chixofnix> (as far as spy/adware go)
19.09.08 #       <nevs> im getting spybot search and destroy now
19.09.17 #       <Chixofnix> mm
19.09.27 #       <nevs> and we will see
19.09.31 #       <Chixofnix> i prefer lavasoft adaware myself... but hey either works
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19.10.31 #       <Chixofnix> well i'm heading out... i'll check back in if i can't resolve this buggy issue...
19.10.34 #       <Chixofnix> take care fellas!
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19.12.20 #       <nevs> ill have to wait 25 mins to get this prog downloaded
19.13.18 #       <scott666> 56k?
19.14.26 #       <nevs> yes
19.14.30 #       <nevs> lol
19.14.49 #       <nevs> i cant get broadband or cable in my area, if i could i would have cable
19.15.01 #       <scott666> poor bastard
19.15.03 #       <scott666> lol
19.15.09 #       * scott666 has cable *
19.15.46 #       <nevs> but im thinking in investing it satalite connection
19.15.51 #       <nevs> 2mb/ a sec
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19.16.18 #       <scott666> how much per month?
19.16.35 #       <nevs> $45-50
19.16.46 #       <nevs> £ not$
19.16.46 #       <scott666> for 2mbps??
19.16.52 #       <scott666> oh
19.17.13 #       <scott666> thats more right?
19.17.13 #       <nevs> it costs £299 for the unit then £100 to install
19.17.18 #       <nevs> yes
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19.21.19 #       <nevs> do u know any mp3 sites
19.22.09 #       <scott666> www.mp3.com
19.22.31 #       <nevs> cause theres a song i want , they have it on kazaa , loads of ppl have the song but when i play it, it plays normally for 20 secs then goes all weird and sounds weird. i donwloaded loads of diffrent versions and there all the same?
19.22.52 #       <scott666> 1. try winmx
19.22.57 #       <scott666> 2. buy the damn cd
19.23.10 #       <Plugh> www.buymusic.com?
19.23.12 #       <nevs> yeah i did have the cd
19.23.15 #       <Plugh> oh, nm... wma
19.23.25 #       <scott666> wma sucks
19.23.26 #       <nevs> but i cant find it
19.23.30 #       <Plugh> is there wma support going into rockbox?
19.23.58 #       <nevs> if u got to archos they say there are looking into it and making it as we speak
19.23.58 #       <Plugh> scott666: I don't disagree, but it would be nice to have rockbox support some legit DRM
19.24.40 #       <nevs> no
19.24.44 #       <nevs> that would be bad man!
19.24.44 #       <scott666> itll never happen
19.24.48 #       <scott666> fuck drm
19.25.13 #       <nevs> FUCKING DRM drives me crazy
19.25.18 #       <scott666> plus, not only is it M$, its closed source
19.25.27 #       <Plugh> I'm no fan of DRM
19.25.33 #       <Plugh> but I am a fan of music
19.25.38 #       <scott666> sp good luck getting a free codec
19.25.58 #       <Plugh> I'm also interested in supporting artists who make music I want to hear
19.26.07 #       <nevs> well
19.26.12 #       <nevs> i want mp3's
19.26.22 #       <nevs> and i get mp3's
19.26.38 #       <nevs> music pppl get enough fucking money anyway
19.26.43 #       <scott666> i'd be interesting in trying ogg, but the archos cant play em
19.26.48 #       <Plugh> umm, no they don't
19.26.51 #       <nevs> stupid boy bands and shit like busted
19.26.56 #       <Plugh> the recording labels make money
19.27.03 #       <Plugh> the artists make dick
19.27.05 #       <scott666> artists get like %10 of the money they make
19.27.22 #       <scott666> record companies get like %60
19.27.32 #       <Plugh> 10% is a little on the high side
19.27.42 #       <nevs> well there richier enough
19.27.47 #       <scott666> i couldnt remember if it was 7 or 17
19.27.54 #       <nevs> my spy bot is done
19.28.02 #       <nevs> lets see if kazaa has cuased me to have spy ware
19.28.22 #       <scott666> lol
19.28.30 #       <Hes> only a really few artists get any significant amount of money... most artists can't make their living off making music.
19.28.44 #       <Hes> only the top acts make loads of money.
19.28.49 #       <scott666> you make money touring
19.30.03 #       <scott666> what i want is a way to buy a cd with a case and booklet and everything directly from an artist for $5-10, and have all of the money go to them
19.35.25 #       <nevs> ok im finding quite a bot of spyware
19.35.30 #       <nevs> bit*
19.35.42 #       <scott666> uh-huh
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19.39.03 #       <yozac> hello, all
19.39.08 #       <scott666> hey
19.40.32 #       <yozac> my archos fm recorder 20, has a weird problem, when I turn it on, for a split second it looks normal, with a status bar for loading the os, and then the screen turns all black and remains that way.  This is true when I'm loading either the default os or rockbox.  Does this sound familiar to anybody?
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19.41.37 #       <scott666> have you tried holding the on button?
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19.45.05 #       <yozac> well, I often need to hold the on button to turn it on at all, do you mean something different from this?
19.45.58 #       <scott666> no
19.46.21 #       <scott666> i only sometimes have to hold it
19.46.28 #       <scott666> or i did before i flashed
19.46.37 #       <scott666> now i always have to
19.48.03 #       <yozac> scott666:any other suggestions?
19.49.19 #       <scott666> does it turn on when its plugged in? maybe your battery is way down
19.50.45 #       <scott666> new high score!!
19.50.50 #       <scott666> 262 in worlet
19.50.53 #       <scott666> woot
19.53.44 #       <Plugh> yozac: which firmware does it show loading before it goes black?
19.53.51 #       <Plugh> I have an fm20 that works great
19.54.08 #       <scott666> isitflashed?
19.54.12 #       <scott666> fuckingspacebar...
19.54.44 #       <Plugh>  /dcc send scott666 big_fucking_hammer
19.55.00 #       <scott666> lol
19.55.05 #       <Plugh> needs percussive maintenance
19.55.21 #       <scott666> hmmm it seems to work now
19.55.25 #       <scott666> thanks
19.55.26 #       <scott666> lol
19.55.37 #       * Plugh pets his big fucking hammer
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19.59.25 #       <yozac> plugh: 1.3j or something.  it used to work fine, and then it started having this problem...
20.00.08 #       <Plugh> plug it into the usb port and delete the rockbox image and see if it boots properly
20.04.11 #       <yozac> plugh: it doesn't boot properly with or without the image...
20.05.41 #       <scott666> does it work when you have the charger plugged in?
20.05.53 #       <yozac> scott666:nope, exactly the same thing
20.06.10 #       <yozac> if I hold it at an extreme angle, I can just barely make out what the screen says.
20.06.17 #       <yozac> it actually does seem to boot
20.06.20 #       <scott666> is it flashed?
20.06.33 #       <yozac> however, when I change the contrast nothing seems to happen
20.06.37 #       <yozac> how do I flash it?
20.07.52 #       <scott666> you run the flashing plugins
20.08.54 #       <scott666> rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html i belive
20.09.13 #       <Plugh> ohhh
20.09.45 #       <Plugh> mine had a terrible contrast setting when I first loaded the new image
20.10.29 #       <Plugh> I don't think flashing is gonna help it
20.10.35 #       <Plugh> if the contrast is hosed
20.10.49 #       <scott666> no
20.10.59 #       <scott666> but its fixed booting problems before
20.11.20 #       <Plugh> yoz doesn't have a booting prob
20.11.30 #       <Plugh> it's a contrast prob
20.11.48 #       <scott666> yeah
20.11.59 #       <scott666> youre right
20.12.15 #       <scott666> when he said screen went blank i figured it just didnt load
20.12.48 #       <scott666> theres instructions in the faq for blindly setting the contrast
20.13.10 #       <scott666> f1 down left down downdown left up or something like that
20.13.17 #       <yozac> well, if I hold it at an extreme angle, I can just barely make out what is on the screen
20.13.49 #       <scott666> so go adjust the contrast
20.14.05 #       <yozac> doing that, I have gotten to the contrast menu (using the archos os, not rockbox, don't know if it would make any difference) and changing the contrast doesn't seem to make much difference
20.14.55 #       <scott666> or you could load a cfg file with the contrast set
20.15.07 #       <scott666> around 45 should be good
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20.18.18 #       <jorbond> sh-elf-gcc -O -s -ansi    scramble.c   -o scramble
20.18.18 #       <jorbond> scramble.c:20:19: stdio.h: No such file or directory
20.18.18 #       <jorbond> scramble.c:21:20: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
20.18.18 DBUG    Enqueued KICK jorbond
20.18.18 #       <jorbond> scramble.c: In function `main':
20.18.18 #       <jorbond> scramble.c:32: `FILE' undeclared (first use in this function)
20.18.19 ***     Alert Mode level 1
20.18.19 #       <jorbond> scramble.c:32: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
20.18.21 #       <jorbond> scramble.c:32: for each function it appears in.)
20.18.23 #       <jorbond> scramble.c:32: `file' undeclared (first use in this function)
20.18.25 #       <jorbond> scramble.c:51: `SEEK_END' undeclared (first use in this function)
20.18.29 ***     Alert Mode level 2
20.18.29 #       <jorbond> scramble.c:61: `SEEK_SET' undeclared (first use in this function)
20.18.31 #       <jorbond> scramble.c:62: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
20.18.33 #       <jorbond> scramble.c:63: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
20.18.35 #       <jorbond> make[2]: *** [scramble] Error 1
20.18.38 #       <jorbond> trying to compile rockbox for the first time, with todays daily build
20.19.20 #       <jorbond> i tried to copy the stdio.h and stdlib.h from the firmware dir to the tools dir, and it still gives that error
20.20.55 #       <scott666> what version are you compiling?
20.21.19 #       <jorbond> player
20.21.55 #       <jorbond> i also tried make clean and it still didn't work
20.22.27 #       <scott666> what are yoou compiling on? cygwin?
20.22.32 #       <jorbond> linux
20.23.07 #       <jorbond> running binutils 2.13 and gcc 3.0.4, all compiled for sh1
20.23.40 #       <scott666> i wont be much  help then
20.23.53 #       <scott666> i assume you saw the doc on it?
20.24.15 #       <jorbond> i read the how to compile doc
20.24.32 #       <jorbond> and the how to set up the compiler doc
20.25.48 #       <scott666> doulbe check all the steps?
20.25.55 #       <scott666> i have no idea
20.26.19 #       <jorbond> i just fixed it
20.26.39 #       <jorbond> since i copied the stdio and stdlib files to the same dir as the c file
20.26.45 #       <jorbond> i had to edit the <> to ""
20.28.30 ***     Alert Mode OFF
20.31.31 #       <jorbond> now to start trying to write plugins for the player :)
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20.49.16 #       <Plugh> I'm eager to get to that point myself
20.49.44 #       <Plugh> upgrading cygwin right now, then I gotta build my compiler
20.50.40 #       <Plugh> I really want to write a simplistic PIM
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20.51.05 #       <Plugh> I'd like to get my phone book and appt calendar into the archos. There's certainly plenty of storage space for it
20.51.55 #       <Plugh> I also gotta look into a hard drive upgrade. But I haven't seen anyone go over 30gig. If it's capable of holding a 100gig+ hd, it'd be perfect
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20.52.57 #       <scott666> look at www.pricewatch.com
20.53.33 #       <scott666> 40gigs are around 100,60s around $150
20.53.37 #       <Plugh> price isn't so much my concern as the ability of the hardware to read a 100gig partition
20.54.06 #       <scott666> i dont see a reason why not
20.54.16 #       <scott666> you just have to find a laptop HD big enough
20.54.40 #       <Plugh> depends on the memory addressing of the CPU
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20.55.18 #       <scott666> you could ask the list
20.55.33 #       <scott666> 60s are pretty common
20.55.35 #       <Plugh> I'll dig through the source first
20.55.42 #       <Plugh> 60 should be okay
20.56.04 #       <scott666> which archos do you have?
20.56.12 #       <Plugh> fm20
20.56.24 #       <scott666> are you good at soldering?
20.56.40 #       <Plugh> yeah. Industry trained on SMT
20.56.56 #       <Plugh> I used to work for a printer manufacturer
20.57.29 #       <scott666> ok, you should be fine then
20.57.49 #       <Plugh> looks like 80g is available on pricewatch
20.58.00 #       <scott666> yeah
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20.59.59 #       <Plugh> I was looking at the RAM upgrades too
21.00.08 #       <Plugh> 8meg would be sweet
21.01.02 #       <scott666> yeah
21.01.38 #       <scott666> id want to practice a few dozen times before i tried on my archos
21.01.43 #       <scott666> but thats just me
21.01.44 #       <scott666> heh
21.02.14 #       <Plugh> I upgraded my Atari 130XE to 576k by stacking 41256 chips on top of each other
21.02.27 #       <scott666> sweet
21.02.29 #       <scott666> lol
21.03.16 #       <Plugh> I never got around to the 1088k upgrade
21.03.38 #       <Plugh> but that would've disabled more functions than I wanted to disable
21.04.21 #       <Plugh> I'd already cut out BASIC. Didn't want to cut graphics and sound ;)
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21.22.08 #       <remus> hi all !
21.24.14 #       <remus> I just found out about the rockbox project for Archos ... pretty cool !!!
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21.40.30 #       <Plugh> I found and installed it on Friday, Remus
21.40.37 #       <Plugh> I'm addicted already
21.40.54 #       <elinenbe> brb
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21.41.31 #       <elinenbe> ahhh... back
21.41.52 #       <elinenbe> Plugh, remus: what do you guys like the most about rockbox?
21.42.56 #       <scott666> can i answer too?
21.42.58 #       <remus> elinenbe: it's really cool that you can write software for that box
21.43.16 #       <remus> elinenbe: and that there is a site that tells you how to do it 
21.43.27 #       <remus> elinenbe: I am building the UI sim now
21.43.46 #       <elinenbe> sure, anyone can answer, it's just that I know they were just introduced to rockbox.
21.44.21 #       <Plugh> The visualizations, the resume in the middle of a track (critical for my listening habits), the promise of better battery management, the games...
21.44.28 #       <scott666> well i say resume and games
21.45.04 #       <Plugh> if there's a one feature answer, for me it's resume
21.45.07 #       <remus> elinenbe: hmm .... I get '/bin/sh: line 1: sh-elf-gcc: command not found'
21.45.38 #       <remus> elinenbe: I didn't even have a chance to try it out ... my USB cable is at home ...
21.46.45 #       <Plugh> I keep my USB cable wrapped up in the accy pocket of the carry case
21.47.07 #       <Plugh> but I'd love a spare or two
21.47.51 DBUG    Enqueued KICK remus
21.47.51 #       <remus> Plugh: now I know ... actually I just got the unit on Friday ... I'm really newbie to this 01,08:-) ...
21.48.13 #       <remus> elinenbe: any idea why I get that message when I try to compile the sim ?
21.49.13 #       <elinenbe> remus: you need to install gcc
21.49.38 #       <remus> elinenbe: the cross-compiler ?
21.49.45 #       <elinenbe> remus: yeah
21.49.47 #       <remus> I have regular gcc on this box
21.50.04 #       <elinenbe> remus: there is documentation on the site that tells you how to do it step by step.
21.50.16 #       <remus> elinenbe: ok, I'll try that out 
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21.54.40 #       <elinenbe> http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/
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22.45.07 #       <elinenbe> hardeep: you here?
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22.55.13 #       <elinenbe> hardeep some issues with the dynamic playlist viewer
22.55.32 #       <scott666> really?
22.55.59 #       <elinenbe> if you use a different font, then the M/Q does not fit in the space given
22.56.35 #       <elinenbe> hardeep: also, I think "ON" would be better to select files?
22.57.55 #       <elinenbe> hardeep: also, when you are moving a file it would be better to have a line between the current tracks where the file will be moved to.
22.58.04 #       <elinenbe> such as:
22.58.05 #       <elinenbe> song 1
22.58.07 #       <elinenbe> ----------
22.58.09 #       <elinenbe> song 2
22.58.17 #       <elinenbe> and the line gets moved up and down
22.58.56 #       <elinenbe> lastly, I think a method to select multiple files would be great.
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22.59.31 #       <scott666> i agree with the moving line
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22.59.54 #       <hardeep> elinenbe: i'll probably not add the multiple file selection in first release
22.59.55 #       <hardeep> is available on pricewatch
22.59.55 #       <hardeep> <scott666> yeah
22.59.55 DBUG    Enqueued KICK hardeep
22.59.55 #       <hardeep> <Plugh> I was looking at the RAM upgrades too
22.59.59 #       <hardeep> oops
23.00.13 #       <JorBond> so u said u know how to work cygwin scott666 :) now i have problems there hehe
23.00.30 #       <hardeep> elinenbe: as for insertion, it always gets inserted at the exact position you specify
23.00.38 #       <hardeep> elinenbe: everything else gets shifted
23.00.47 #       <scott666> oh god, dont trust me, i just got it going like 2 days agi
23.00.49 #       <scott666> *ago
23.00.49 #       <scott666> lol
23.01.14 #       <scott666> shifted up or shifted down though?
23.01.16 #       <JorBond> if i wansnt so lazy to recompile my kernel i would be using linux
23.01.30 #       <JorBond> i can get it into bash
23.01.35 #       <JorBond> but none of the cmds work
23.01.35 #       <scott666> ok
23.01.37 #       <hardeep> elinenbe: which font are you using that doesn't display the M/Q properly?  I use Q to determine the size required...
23.01.46 #       <scott666> did you install it in c:\cygwin?
23.01.51 #       <JorBond> yeah
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23.02.15 #       <JorBond> bash complains on startup that it cant find /tmp and that it cant open /etc
23.02.21 #       <JorBond> i can run cd cmds
23.02.29 #       <elinenbe> hardeep: Hebrew-Bold.fnt
23.02.29 #       <hardeep> gotta go
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23.02.44 #       <hardeep|away> elinenbe: okay, i'll try it out
23.05.02 #       <JorBond> i tried to run ../tools/configure in my build dir but it gives me this error "/bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file for directory"
23.05.38 #       <scott666> oh! its cause the tools zip sucks
23.05.52 #       <scott666> downmload the latest tarball and get the tools from there
23.06.52 #       <JorBond> what do u mean latest tools
23.07.44 #       <scott666> download the lastest tarball
23.07.56 #       <scott666> which has a tools dir in it
23.08.02 #       <JorBond> oh ok
23.08.09 #       <scott666> then just copy everything from that to the new on
23.08.09 #       <scott666> e
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23.10.33 #       <JorBond> but i cant compile the tools
23.16.01 #       <scott666> you dont need to
23.16.05 #       <scott666> they dont have extensions
23.16.15 #       <scott666> just copy and paste them
23.17.12 #       <Plugh> anyone have a compiled othello?
23.17.23 #       <JorBond> get it off of the daily build
23.17.34 #       <Plugh> k
23.18.13 #       <JorBond> ok the tools zip i downloaded, had about 4 exe files in it(scramble,etc) and the daily tar comes with the source of the tools
23.18.18 #       <Plugh> it's clean as of 7/28?
23.18.37 #       <Plugh> as in, no crashers
23.19.37 #       <JorBond> no clue, dont own a recorder, just a plain player
23.20.28 #       <scott666> you dont see make and binlang and stuff in the tarball's tools folder?
23.22.04 #       <JorBond> i see them in my C:\cygwin\bin folder
23.22.09 #       <JorBond> well i see make in it
23.22.44 #       <scott666> i didnt tell you to go to bin i told you to go to tools
23.24.10 #       <scott666> unzip the tarball, in it theres a tools directory
23.24.11 #       <JorBond> the tools folder in the rockbox source?
23.24.23 #       <scott666> copy the files from that
23.24.40 #       <scott666> or just unzip it in home\rockbox
23.26.41 #       <JorBond> ok i did that
23.27.00 #       <scott666> try ../tools/configure again
23.27.43 #       <JorBond> still no good
23.27.52 #       <JorBond> i dont think it is finding sh
23.28.18 #       <JorBond> how do i point cygwin to look in my bin folder
23.28.37 #       <scott666> its in home\rockbox\tools?
23.28.40 #       <scott666> no idea
23.30.44 #       <scott666> cause the most obvious reason for it to not find it is becuase it isnt there
23.31.15 #       <JorBond> it is there, i have it in my path for windows, so i can run sh from a cmd prompt
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23.36.08 #       <Plugh> bizarre
23.36.28 #       <Plugh> my battery indicator seems to be counting up
23.36.41 #       <scott666> is it plugged in?
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23.43.11 #       <Plugh> no
23.43.34 #       <Plugh> I had it plugged in, it said charged
23.43.43 #       <Plugh> I unplugged it and it said 11%
23.43.57 #       <Plugh> then it started counting up
23.44.14 #       <Plugh> I shut it down and brought it back up. It says 94 now
23.44.31 #       <scott666> yeah ive seen bugs with that?
23.44.44 #       <scott666> *no question mark
23.44.47 #       <Plugh> now it's 95
23.44.49 #       <Plugh> heh
23.45.23 #       <Plugh> I left the house this morning at 18% charge and got to work an hour and a half later with 30%
23.45.35 #       <Plugh> listening the whole time
23.46.23 #       <Plugh> as long as I can listen to my tunes, I'm not all hung up on what the battery meter says
23.46.31 #       <Plugh> I've never actually had it run out
23.46.41 #       <scott666> yeah, me neither
23.46.42 #       <Plugh> doh! 97% now
23.47.12 #       <scott666> i got it flashing 7% left once
23.53.20 #       <Plugh> I didn't see the deep discharge mode
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