--- Log for 29.07.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 5 days and 15 hours ago 00.14.37 Quit remus (Remote closed the connection) 00.22.55 Join Galik [0] (~galik@195.137.124.20) 00.23.14 Ctcp Ignored 4 channel CTCP requests in 2 hours and 44 minutes at the last flood 00.23.14 # * Plugh tosses Galik a mint 00.26.30 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@AC96868B.ipt.aol.com) 00.29.44 Quit _aLF ("bye") 00.29.53 # hardeep: i just had a WPS idea centering the text! 00.31.14 # diddystar5: i believe there is already an open feature request for that 00.31.20 Nick hardeep|away is now known as hardeep (1098@208.247.65.237) 00.31.20 DBUG Enqueued KICK hardeep 00.33.06 # hummm i'm not good enough to do that i wish i was... 00.39.09 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr) 00.39.21 # heullo 00.39.56 # hey BoD[] 00.40.03 Part ClosetPacifist ("scripting pie") 00.46.27 # heya 00.47.09 # hi 00.49.32 Join remus [0] (~remus@208.35.40.2) 00.51.02 # elinenbe: I tried loading rockbox on my archos but it doesn't seem to work 00.51.12 # elinenbe: I have the multimedia version 00.52.04 # all: do you have any idea if rockbox works on archos multimedia ? 00.52.25 # it does not 00.52.47 # this team isn't doing work on the multimedia 00.53.27 # Plugh: so it only works on non-multimedia versions ? 00.53.47 # the recorder rm, recorder, and player 00.54.33 # diddystar5: I see ... that's a pity ... 00.54.48 # correct 00.55.00 # it's a different CPU 00.55.10 # remus: we would have to write never drivers, video and pic codecs.... 00.55.11 # different DAC 00.55.16 # *new 00.55.39 # diddystar5: do you know of any place that does have open soulrce for the multimedia ? 00.55.40 # it's totaly differn't 00.55.44 # most of us don't even have a MM to play with 00.56.07 DBUG Enqueued KICK remus 00.56.07 # Plugh: 01,08:-( ... 00.56.21 # start one up. Easy enough to start a Sourceforge project 00.56.28 # diddystar5: it's also a different hw platform I would guess ... 00.56.54 # remus: yes 00.57.17 # Plugh: ok, but where do you get all the docs, etc ? 00.57.17 # all you need is someone with some hardware knowledge willing to rip their player apart to find out what CPU and DACs are available 00.57.29 # reverse engineering 00.58.14 Quit edx () 00.58.15 # Plugh: but then you have to figure out the HW schematics, the ports that are used, etc 00.58.23 # you wanna send me a multimedia? I'd be happy to take it apart and document the disassembly procedure 00.58.38 # Plugh: 01,08:-) ... 00.58.46 # and I could even take pix of the chips and make best guesses as to the purpose of each one 00.59.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.00.19 # oooo boy o boy o boy send it to me not him!!! 01.00.29 # :) 01.00.38 *** Alert Mode level 1 01.00.38 # Plugh: 01,08:-) ... I just bought mine for 300$ including shipping at http://www.compuplus.com/ ... including camera & card readers ... 01.00.54 *** Alert Mode level 2 01.00.54 # diddystar5 Plugh: now you guys have to decide 01,08:-) ... 01.00.57 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 24 minutes and 47 seconds at the last flood 01.00.57 # * diddystar5 has got to go 01.01.00 # bye 01.01.04 Quit diddystar5 ("Gotta Go!") 01.01.43 # I just payed $179 for my FM20. Why would I wanna go out and spend another $300 now? 01.01.56 # besides, there's already a project for the device I bought 01.02.24 # * Plugh is an evil bastard 01.03.01 # Plugh: to get the extra features ... and the ability to download your pictures from CF to the jukebox ... 01.03.01 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.03.25 # I have a digi cam 01.04.19 # Plugh: that's a good enough reason if you don't want to have a bunch of CF cards around 01.04.51 # Plugh: that's if your digicam uses CF or smartmedia ... 01.06.06 # CF hell 01.06.13 # I use smartmedia 01.06.37 # I've never filled it up, but I have 2 spare cards 01.10.55 *** Alert Mode OFF 01.11.10 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBF034B.ipt.aol.com) 01.11.19 # hello chaps 01.11.20 # :) 01.12.03 # hello adimass 01.14.21 Join Sparks [0] (~ask@public1-bror2-4-cust155.bror.broadband.ntl.com) 01.14.33 # Plugh: it looks like you don't take too many pics ... but if you are on a long trip it's handy to be able to offload your pics on a HD 01.15.45 # I have a question about the battery debug screen - it shows the voltage, but is it possible to see the amperage the batteries are pulling? 01.15.51 # ? 01.16.47 # was the ? aimed at me T-T-R? 01.17.42 # yea 01.18.21 # ok, if i charge a batter with a bench power supply, i can see both the voltage and the current the battery is pulling 01.18.28 # remus: if I go on a long trip, I usually have a laptop around 01.18.42 # hell, if I go on a short trip, I usually have a laptop around 01.18.59 # is it possible to see the current the battery is charging at? 01.19.16 # I saw all that info 01.19.18 # Plugh: indeed, that would do it 01.19.20 # it's in the docs dir 01.20.03 # when i am charging a battery on the bench PSU, i know the battery is done when the current drops off 01.21.01 # voltage charging current (limited only by the AJB) 01.21.01 # ------------------------------------------------------ 01.21.01 # 7,0V 10 mA 01.21.01 DBUG Enqueued KICK Plugh 01.21.01 # 7,5V 30 mA 01.21.01 # 8,0V 50 mA 01.21.03 # 8,5V 70 mA 01.21.06 # 9,0V 140 mA 01.21.08 # 9,5V 250 mA 01.21.11 # 10,0V 330 mA 01.21.13 # 10,5V 350 mA 01.21.16 # 11,0V 350 mA 01.21.18 # 11,5V 350 mA 01.21.21 # 12,0V 350 mA 01.21.33 # oh , ok 01.21.39 # is this tru of the FM?# 01.21.44 # yes 01.21.47 # that's what I have 01.22.08 # okay, so 350mAis the tops the batter will pull 01.22.28 # that's the charging current 01.22.33 # not the battery draw 01.23.21 # strange...i plugged in a 1A 5v PSU - ist charged 01.23.26 # ist -> it 01.23.41 # A12: In our testing we found the following results: 01.23.41 # HDD off, backlight off, idle 94 mA 01.23.41 # HDD off, backlight off, play 97 mA 01.23.41 *** Alert Mode level 1 01.23.41 # HDD off, backlight on, idle 129 mA 01.23.41 *** Alert Mode level 2 01.23.41 # HDD off, backlight on, play 131 mA 01.23.44 # i then tried a 2A 5v PSU - it charges faster 01.23.44 # HDD on, backlight on, play 230 mA 01.23.46 # HD on, reading, backlight off ~ 600 mA 01.23.48 # HD spin up before read max 800 mA 01.24.06 # is that kinda what you're looking for? 01.24.09 # both were regulated 01.25.06 # another question is, when doing a USB transfer with the supplied PSU, it seems to drain the battery 01.25.25 # would a bigger PSU stop this - or it the archos throtteling it? 01.25.28 # the power is always fed to the unit off the batteries 01.25.56 # so it will draw power while simultaneously charging 01.26.20 # I highly recommend the BATTERY-FAQ.txt file in /.rockbox/docs 01.26.41 # there's a lot of technical information about batteries and charging 01.26.45 # okay, so it wants 600Ma - but the psu is throtteld at 350 then 01.26.58 # including the differences between the Archos firmware and rockbox 01.27.01 # ok, I will have a look at that then! - thanks 01.29.04 # I wonder why the Recorder has a "software charger" 01.29.13 # so if i were to remove the battery when the unit was on, what would happen? 01.29.21 # it won't run 01.29.23 # DO NOT DO THAT SPARKS! 01.29.35 # because it only runs off the batteries 01.29.46 # so it would just tun off 01.29.53 # yea 01.29.54 # I tried that 01.29.58 # heh 01.30.02 # I wouldn't have 01.30.04 # but... 01.30.17 # I do want to get some 2000-2100uA batteries 01.30.22 # ah, but it doesnt! 01.30.34 # if the hdd is not spinning, it stays on 01.33.40 # so is the charger supplies enough power for the cpu, backlight etc, but not the HDD? 01.33.42 *** Alert Mode OFF 01.34.58 # ....and is it possible to get higher capacity batteries for the FM? 01.35.19 # elinenbe: were there any other bugs you found in the viewer besides the M/Q issue? 01.36.06 # the docs seem to be written for all the players in general. Does the FM use non-standard batteries? 01.36.31 # I've never opened mine up 01.36.38 # The FM has a 2200 mAh Lithum 01.36.45 # spiffy 01.36.58 # if you opo off the top cover, it slides out 01.36.58 # I don't think there's anything higher on the market right now 01.37.09 # you dont need to open the unit to get it! 01.37.39 # okay. I was wondering about that 01.37.50 # what sort of life do you get on your FM wihen playing mp3's? 01.37.52 # I'm considering getting an 80gig HD for mine 01.37.57 # same here 01.38.03 # I get more than 8 hours 01.38.11 # I've never drained it 01.38.15 # i habe opened mine, but havent taken the disk out yet! 01.38.21 # what bitrate mp3's? 01.38.24 # it always seems to find its way back to a charger 01.38.32 # 64-256 01.39.08 # supposedly you can use 16k mp3s 01.39.12 # okay, mine are mostly 192, and i seem to be getting less - i need to test it properly 01.39.19 # but I don't know why I would ever want to 01.39.45 # try raising the buffer size 01.39.55 # set it to max 01.40.57 # using rockbox, of course. You can't set that in archos 01.41.03 # ...just trying to get the batter cover back on... 01.41.51 # u mean Archos make firmware!? 01.44.07 # :) 01.44.29 # okay, where is the buffer settung :S 01.44.53 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 01.44.53 # * Plugh guesses Sparks is German ;) 01.44.54 # the Anti Skip Buffer? 01.44.57 # yes 01.45.00 # that's the one 01.45.09 # * Sparks is English 01.45.31 # * Sparks needs sleep, and a new keyboard :P 01.45.37 # ah. You make some common German misspellings of English words 01.45.51 # I need sleep too. And a new kb as well 01.45.53 # i see what you mean! 01.46.18 # you were typing "ist" and "settung" 01.46.29 # so I mis-guessed German 01.46.31 # bt surely the anti-skip buffer needs to be set to a low number to conserve battery power? 01.46.42 # high number 01.46.49 # it pre-reads more data 01.47.06 # but does'nt high mean it will spin up more often? 01.47.23 # Sparks: yes, you are correct 01.47.36 # so it will use more power! 01.47.40 # Sparks: the higher the number, the more battery power is, potentially, used 01.47.59 # that is what i thought! - hence it is 0 01.49.18 # yeah, it's best to leave it there 01.49.19 # I would imagine that buffering to RAM would reduce disk spin time. If I could load an entire 5 minute song into memory, it would take like 2 sec of spin time 01.49.34 # Plugh: we always load as much as we can 01.50.01 # by default it will load as much as possible, doing anything else would be stupid 01.50.06 # Plugh: the anti-skip buffer determines the mimimum amount of buffer before we start reloading 01.51.06 Join bopman [0] (bopman@pool-141-149-173-67.bos.east.verizon.net) 01.51.20 # you can see a visual representation in Menu->Debug->View mpeg thread 01.51.39 # ahh, where it says "do not enter" 01.51.40 # ;) 01.51.57 # beyond here, there be monsters 01.52.03 # what is the short and long delta all about in the battery debug!? 01.52.23 # Hi Folx! I'm a rockbox newbie with an installation question. 01.52.25 # mine is 16 and 849 right now 01.52.37 # Want to ask it before I do something I regret... :-) 01.52.56 # fire away bopman! 01.52.59 # Sparks: i'm not familiar with the battery stuff... any info in the battery faq? 01.53.30 # Q: I can't see the AJBREC.ajz file without using DirectorySnoop 01.53.39 # But in DirectorySnoop, it shows up as deleted. 01.53.44 # Can I safely undelete this file? 01.54.03 # So I can rename it before installing RockBox? (and go back to it using Rolo?) 01.54.15 # There...whew :) 01.54.29 # bopman: you can download it from the archos site 01.54.52 # bopman: better than undeleting 01.55.06 # Ah...I didn't explain properly. 01.55.14 # hardeep: a serch for "delta" on the battery FAQ returns...nothing :( 01.55.19 # My unit is working fine. I haven't done anything to it yet. 01.55.39 # is it running Rockbox? 01.55.40 # I just can't "see" the file using windows explorer, DOS shell or cygwin 01.55.44 # so I can't change its name. 01.55.53 # I renamed my Archos OS file so I can just copy it back if there's a problem with rockbox 01.55.56 # Is it safe to undelete it? 01.56.18 # does the unit boot into rockbox? 01.56.20 # Sparks: alas, then you'll have to look in the code... 01.56.42 # hardeep: ok, so i will ignore that then :P 01.56.56 # I'd love to see Archos take some of the Rockbox changes to heart and write an optimized OS with a good feature set :) 01.57.03 # bopman: new units don't have a copy of the ajbrec.ajz file on disk, it's all in flash. However, you can download a copy of it from the archos website 01.57.03 # bopman: does your unit boot into rockbox? 01.57.07 # but there's always something to be said for hacking 01.57.33 # bopman: so, download that copy to your archos unit, rename it... then download the rockbox version and copy it 01.58.12 # I see. Thanks Hardeep. I'll try that. 01.58.29 # oddly enough, when I bought mine it had a .ajz as well as the same fw in flash 01.58.35 # It looks like someone had this unit before me; there's a ton of deleted files and .mp3s I never put on there 01.59.02 # Sparks: No, I haven't installed Rockbox on it yet. 01.59.29 # bopman: you buy it at Fry's? 01.59.40 # Radio Shack, of all places. 01.59.52 # sounds like it has been played with then! 01.59.56 # And it came in a hard plastic case; the kind you cut your hand off trying to open. 02.00.11 # blister pack? 02.00.15 # you can re-format it 02.00.18 # Sounds like RatShack is selling refurbs! 02.00.32 # I can't prove it though. 02.00.41 # I'd almost recommend a format 02.00.46 # how much was it? 02.00.53 # you probably got it at a discount 02.00.55 # $230 02.01.01 # gack! 02.01.06 # Mine was $179 02.01.08 # from Fry's 02.01.10 # no wait $205 02.01.43 # Hey you guys are great. One more question: what's the biggest HD you would recommend for expansion? 02.01.54 # 2.5" 02.01.56 # I've seen 60GB, but don't know how stable they are with motion etc. 02.02.03 # I saw 80 02.02.09 # 80?!?!? 02.02.16 # That must be like $800 02.02.17 # 80 must be �$�$�$�$� 02.02.32 # the thought of it makes me wanna spooge my jeans 02.02.35 # $279 02.02.40 # ROTFL 02.03.02 # Where would I get an 80GB for $279? 02.03.05 # it's an Hitachi 02.03.12 # pricewatch.com 02.03.25 # I just might do it. I have a 10 now. Kinda lame. 02.03.34 # ah. My 20 is full 02.03.39 # quickly full 02.03.58 # www.emusic.com will do that to you. 02.04.16 # how is a Toshiba MK6021GAS 60GB 2.5" 9mm 12ms Notebook Hard Drive for GBP125 for value? 02.04.16 # my CD collection did that 02.04.46 # since Napster, I haven't been on p2p 02.05.02 # emusic isn't p2p. It's $10/mo all you can eat. 02.05.03 # and only used Napster for about half its lifespan 02.05.23 # Very well organized too. Mostly indy stuff. Lots of great Jazz. 02.05.30 # mostly I load up with my friends' DJ sets 02.05.40 # Not much rock/pop, but that's ok with me. 02.05.51 # and the occasional book 02.06.11 # Harry Potter book 5 encoded to 1.4gig 02.07.00 # Thanks guys. C u l8r 02.07.12 # seeya. Enjoy rockbox 02.07.24 Part bopman 02.08.16 # i have another question with the battery debug screen - on the last screen, where you see the Last PwrHist Val: - the number are off the screen - is this normal!? 02.08.20 # (on the FM) 02.08.23 # wow. 65 messages on the list today 02.09.10 # use a smaller font? 02.09.47 # this is with the default settings 02.10.14 # mine does the same. It shows fully with the 5x7 font 02.10.42 # Plugh: have you flashed you FM? 02.11.10 # nah 02.11.27 # I just run it off the file 02.11.31 # has anyone here flashed an FM? 02.11.39 # 02.11.52 # I want the opportunity to switch back if something goes horribly wrong 02.11.54 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-138-88-64-37.res.east.verizon.net) 02.12.06 Quit Galik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.12.13 # hello 02.12.18 # Hello 02.12.18 # hiya 02.13.01 # what's new? 02.14.38 # doing a cvs up to see how to answer that question ;) 02.15.19 # I gotta go to bed now - catch you all later! 02.15.25 # seeya 02.15.40 # * Sparks is outta here! 02.15.42 Quit Sparks () 02.16.06 # earHurts: which unit do you have? 02.16.17 # fm 02.16.34 # cool. Lotta folx have that one, it seems. Including me 02.16.55 # okie. No new cvs 02.18.56 # what battery life do you egt? 02.19.12 # more than 8 hours 02.19.18 # probably around 10 02.19.35 # is that playing time? 02.19.49 # yeah 02.20.42 # how would you like 14 hours? 02.20.49 # I'd love it 02.21.27 # what would you be willing to give up for it? 02.21.37 # I haven't encountered any issues with battery life to date 02.22.14 # so it's not worth anything to me at the moment 02.22.25 # except maybe geek factor 02.22.46 # what bit rate do you play? 02.23.05 # I have stuff from 96 to 256 02.23.34 # 96? wow 02.23.47 # spoken word, audio books, etc 02.24.00 # high for audio books 02.24.15 # and some crummy recordings of the Church of the Subgenius radio show 02.25.16 # priase Bob 02.25.27 # Hail, yeah! 02.26.12 # I think I can increase the battery time by about 50% 02.26.28 # by encoding all 256 to 128? :) 02.26.47 # no, by changing some code 02.27.17 # I'd love to hack mine up to 8meg RAM 02.27.33 # that'll supposedly boost life 30% 02.27.42 # I changed my hdd to a 60GB 02.27.55 # I was looking at an 80 02.28.12 # yeah? 02.28.18 # I just stumbled into the archos hacking community yesterday 02.28.22 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 02.28.30 # Hitachi sells an 80 02.28.40 # same brand as the 20 in mine 02.28.44 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 02.28.52 # it reads all 60gig in one partition? 02.28.53 # I got the low noise fujitsu 02.29.09 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 02.29.20 # I had to use linux utilities to partition it 02.29.26 # I should look at power ratings for the drives 02.29.35 # why'd you need to use Linux? 02.29.59 # windows 2000 won't format > 32GB 02.30.17 # ahh yeah. XP will 02.31.23 # I was fighting that battle a couple months ago when I was building my new desktop box 02.31.48 # xp will? 02.32.05 # 120gig for me 02.32.09 # the ms web page says not 02.32.19 # *shrug* 02.32.28 # not for fat32, yes for ntfs 02.32.33 # ah 02.33.04 # not really a prob. I have Linux all over the place too 02.33.29 # did you have to format with Linux? Or just partition? 02.34.18 # both 02.34.41 # just mkfs -t vfat ? 02.34.58 # yeah, something like that 02.35.30 # alrighty. I'll look into that when I decide to spend the money on the drive 02.36.23 # ;) 02.39.45 # it's gonna take a bit of research, finding which drives have the lowest power consumption during spin-up and run 02.40.41 # I'll also be looking at shock test results 02.52.45 Quit remus (Remote closed the connection) 02.57.24 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 02.59.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.00.45 # going afk, but I'll stay logged on for months at a time. I'm like a bad cockroach infestation. You can't get rid of me 03.06.40 Join remus [0] (~remus@208.35.40.2) 03.15.18 Join jorbond [0] (~jorbond@dhcp024-209-003-214.cinci.rr.com) 03.49.22 Quit jorbond ("Client exiting") 03.51.01 Join elinenbe_ [0] (elinenbe_@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 03.51.02 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.51.05 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (elinenbe_@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 04.20.45 # elinenbe: i uploaded a new version that fixes that M/Q bug. Please let me know if you encounter any others. 04.20.50 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: its shagadellic, baby!") 04.59.52 # Plugh: Archos Multimedia uses the following processor: TI DCS21 04.59.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.01.03 # thanks remus. I found that info in the docs 05.01.26 # Plugh: what other info do you need in order to generate code for it ? 05.02.41 # umm... seeing as I can't write a Hello, World program in C, I figure I probably need a lot of programming experience 05.04.30 # I'm a software QA engineer by trade 05.04.47 DBUG Enqueued KICK remus 05.04.47 # Plugh: hmmm ... well, you could just recompile the existing code for the new platform 01,08:-) ... 05.04.47 # those who can't code, test 05.05.01 # Plugh: I see ... so you are testing the thing ... 05.05.18 # yeah, and having a blast in doing so 05.05.22 # Plugh: this processor is not used in the other player ? 05.05.43 # not in the multimedia 05.05.50 # it's way too slow 05.05.55 # Plugh: what other info do you need ? 05.05.59 # Plugh: I see ... 05.06.14 # Plugh: it looks like multimedia was discontinued ... 05.06.41 # that's odd. It's on the archos front page 05.06.49 # Plugh: I gotta go ... talk to you tomorrow ... 05.06.53 # oki 05.06.59 # Plugh: Yes it seems odd to me too .. 05.07.39 # Plugh: check here ... this is what he sais at least ... http://www.mpman.ca/MMJB%20Comparison.htm 05.08.12 # ah yeah 05.08.18 # they're pushing the 340 05.08.24 # the 20 is dead 05.08.52 Quit bronson (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.12.03 Join NateDog [0] (~natedog91@ftc-s359.ftc-s.fone.net) 05.13.20 # has anyone ever seen the message "panic: kill disk"...I saw it a split second before I turned off my jukebox because it was acting up 05.15.57 # kill disk +9 05.16.02 # +9 05.16.09 # No 05.20.14 # it works fine after reboot...the problem was that I heard a high-pitched whine and the song I was playing stopped abruptly...ah well 05.21.46 # did you run out of power? 05.23.26 # no...was at 30+%...I attempted a defrag, but it wasn't fragmented 05.24.46 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 05.25.31 # bed! 05.25.33 Quit BoD[] ("z") 05.26.32 # Hey, Doc! It hurts when I do this! 05.26.36 # Well, don't DO that 05.28.10 # I wonder if Rockbox needs a particular filesystem state, or if it's sensitive to runtime changes 05.29.18 # updating cvs then I'll take a look 05.35.15 # looks to me that it's reading a more base function of the system than "rockbox code". The panic is reading the error code from the system. 05.38.12 # you're probably right...panic...gotta love it 05.43.48 # no, there's no more basic funcrion 05.44.21 # after the rom loads it up, it's rockbox all the way down 05.47.09 # hmm...the mystery message 05.51.00 Part NateDog 05.53.45 # the panic message has to be coming out of ROM then 05.54.03 # cuz I just grepped the whole source tree and didn't find his error msg 05.54.23 # but I did find the panic code, which appears to be reading the message out of a memory location 05.55.23 # yeah, another part of the code sewts up the messages, I'd guess 05.58.33 # alright. I couldn't find it though 06.09.34 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@dnvrdslgw11poolB240.dnvr.uswest.net) 06.16.09 # heya 06.23.11 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 06.23.11 # * Plugh compiles a cross-compiler... bleh. big and messy 06.33.13 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Hey baby, come sit on my lap. We'll talk about whatever pops up.") 06.35.48 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 06.35.57 # hey everyone 06.36.47 # hey scott 06.37.15 # how many hours are you getting on a full charge? 06.37.25 # dunno off hand 06.37.37 # im trying to kill the battery at the moment 06.37.38 # its hard 06.38.06 # i have it playing on repeat on the battery status screen 06.38.15 # im down to 13% and 2.87V 06.38.30 # fm, right? 06.38.33 # yup 06.38.55 # battery % doesn't mean much 06.39.02 # what bit rate? 06.39.50 # good idea 06.40.10 # i think i have 320 somewhere 06.40.15 # why are you running it down? 06.40.25 # topic on the list 06.40.46 # what topic? 06.41.10 # fm battery metrics or something 06.41.24 # i dunno 06.41.35 # oh that was from me 06.41.37 # someone mentions the volage at which the battery died 06.41.53 # and i decided to find out since i was at like 10% battery 06.42.01 #