--- Log for 30.07.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 6 days and 15 hours ago 00.05.13 # this could take a while. Cygwin can be painfully slow at compiling 00.16.42 Join Sparks [0] (~ask@public1-bror2-4-cust155.bror.broadband.ntl.com) 00.23.24 Quit Sparks () 00.23.54 Quit _aLF ("Client exiting") 00.44.50 # cygwin is not that slow for the firmware 00.45.27 # probably not 00.45.36 # but compiling gcc is a bear 00.45.51 # binutils took about an hour and a half 00.46.13 # on a 1.0GHz P3 00.52.25 # crazy 00.53.09 # it took about a half hour on my 400MHz P3 Linux box 00.56.31 Join Nibbler [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-193-209.reverse.qdsl-home.de) 00.57.15 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.00.13 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.00.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.04.50 Join Guest57 [0] (jirc@AMetz-101-1-5-49.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) 01.05.32 # hi all 01.06.03 # is there a place where i could download the UCL version of the patch to get the 20-50% battery increase for the recorder 20 01.06.04 # thanks 01.06.29 # it's a blind study 01.06.37 # best to get on the mailing list 01.06.47 Join NibbIer [0] (~Nibbler@pD950FB63.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.07.08 # some will get the battery improvement code and some will get other code 01.07.18 # ok 01.07.31 # so basically, it's not ready enough for prime time that it's available as a patch 01.07.37 # but where could I get a compiled .ajz or .ucl file 01.07.53 # could u compile a version for me 01.08.07 # with the battery life patch? 01.08.14 # I don't have that code 01.08.19 # as ucl for the recorder 01.08.24 # yes if you can 01.08.42 # go get the daily build off rockbox.haxx.se 01.08.53 # for whatever is latest 01.08.53 # I get it 01.09.20 # so it must be included ? but I do not thinkx as it still a patch 01.09.33 # the only difference between that and tomorrow's (so far) is some backlight code 01.09.56 # ok 01.10.02 # it's not uploaded as an official code submission yet 01.10.10 # but is it really possible to get 20-50% incrzease 01.10.37 # it ll be really ... cool 01.10.37 # get on the mailing list, read the archive, and send mail to the person who asked for assistance testing their code 01.10.49 # We'll know in a week I guess 01.10.49 # ;) 01.11.01 # so u do not have under the hand 01.11.06 # nope 01.11.15 # ok I will email the developper of this patch 01.11.16 # I sent him a mail like he asked 01.11.28 # thanks 01.11.32 # maybe he sends me improved life code 01.11.34 # maybe not 01.11.35 # :) 01.11.40 # and what doers he reply 01.11.52 # so I ve to sleep now 01.11.53 # he's still collecting names and configs 01.12.02 # nothing's gone out yet 01.12.04 # bye, 01.12.28 # seeya 01.19.12 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.25.47 Join Triple-z [0] (Mp3@212.116.168.34.knet.co.il) 01.27.36 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr) 01.27.43 # z! 01.27.51 # does flash boot gonna be included in next frimwares? 01.28.45 # it's in current firmware 01.29.36 # hmm i mean, like i that i wont have to get the zip etc 01.34.50 Join Jensing [0] (Jensing@pcp289373pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net) 01.35.18 # hello? 01.35.32 # woot! Just built my first bios under Windows 01.35.44 # can you also get help here 01.35.55 # you can ask 01.37.12 # Well I am useing the new version of the Rockbox for my Archos Studio 10 and I have about 650 files. When I turn it on today in the car I could not see all my files, it said DIR BUFFER FULL 01.37.51 # I could only see about 400 files 01.38.15 # How can I see all of my files 01.38.16 # ? 01.38.38 # sounds like you put all the files in one directory 01.38.50 # well yeah 01.38.55 # the default limit is 400 per dir 01.39.02 # but you can raise it using the menu 01.39.06 # ok well how should i do that 01.39.16 # What do you think I should be doing 01.39.34 # general settings, System, Max files in dir browser 01.39.43 # I organized my music by genre 01.39.47 # ok 01.39.51 # into directories 01.40.10 # at some points, my dirs go about 4 deep 01.40.16 # well I use MusicMatch Jukebox, is there a way it can copy my files like that 01.40.38 # It would take a long time to do that 01.40.51 # it took a while, but it was rewarding 01.40.57 # but the genre is in the ID tag though 01.41.09 # you can open up the unit in My Computer 01.41.13 # as a hard drive 01.41.34 # then you can sort however you want 01.41.50 # all of my music is in one folder (My Music) on my computer 01.41.55 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBAF2E0.ipt.aol.com) 01.42.07 # hey" 01.42.07 # ! 01.42.11 # hiya track 01.42.35 # MusicMatch sorts my music on my HD from the ID tags 01.42.42 # hi 01.43.07 # Jensing: you can raise the limit to over 6000 songs in a directory, if that's how you prefer to sort 01.43.13 # I find it unwieldy 01.43.38 # yeah but then that way i can just copy a M3U file 01.43.51 # so can I 01.44.05 # you don't need all the files in the same directory for a playlist to work 01.44.27 # well how can I do that 01.44.40 # raise it over 600 01.44.57 # general settings, System, Max files in dir browser 01.45.43 # I dont see that 01.45.57 # are you in the menu now? 01.45.57 # I see general settings, System, no Max 01.46.01 # yes 01.46.31 # 3rd option from the top on mine 01.46.54 # I'm running Friday's daily build right now 01.46.55 # Idle poweroff is mine 01.47.30 # ohh... studio 10 is different I think 01.47.32 # this is the file i downloaded 01.47.33 # rockbox-2.0-player.zip 01.47.34 # I have an fm20 01.47.55 # track, you know about this? 01.48.03 # what? 01.48.24 # Jen needs to increase the max files displayed per directory 01.48.38 # my menu appears to be different 01.48.39 # I am useing rockbox-2.0 for my Archos Studio 10 01.48.41 # well i dunno because i use playlists to organise the music not folders 01.48.44 # oh, wait. 01.48.53 # yeah 01.48.55 # that's an old build 01.49.00 # oh it is 01.49.08 # get the daily build 01.49.08 # where can i get a new one 01.49.26 # is it on the same site 01.49.29 # yes 01.49.36 # one of the links is daily builds 01.49.48 # the sourceforge website is broken again 01.49.59 # ok i see 01.51.01 # mod, rocks, full what one do you think i need 01.51.24 # I have the Archos Jukebox Studio 10 01.52.00 # full 01.52.25 # yay! My new build works 01.56.41 # :-) 01.56.48 # i can't be bothered to "flash" my JB 01.57.02 # not worth flashing, imo 01.57.06 # yeaq 01.57.16 # I'll be swapping out fw left and right 01.57.24 # if the flashing goes wrong you are out of luck 01.57.29 # some devs give me shit about it 01.57.37 # but I stand by my decision 01.58.20 # yea 01.58.42 # sometimes I need to use the Archos firmware for recording and playlist editing 01.58.45 # and file management 01.59.48 # heh. If I ever have to manage files using the archos fw again, I think I'd go into a murderous rampage 01.59.57 # it's so unintuitive and painful 02.00.44 # well for me its perfect 02.00.51 # that is Rockbox's Achille's heel 02.00.58 # poor playlist and file handling 02.01.04 # I'm excited about Tom's battery saver patches 02.01.27 # I've always built playlists and managed files on the PC 02.01.37 # I keep the Archos firmware along side Rockbox solely for playlist making and file management 02.01.54 # and for using the Archos on-the-fly disk drive diagnosis 02.03.39 # Dir Buffer Is Full 02.03.39 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 02.03.43 # i still keep getting it 02.03.56 # did you set the max? 02.04.11 # it should be in the menu now 02.04.20 # yes i did 02.04.37 # like i said it is still telling me Dir Buffer Is Full 02.04.58 # it could be. You don't have a lot of memory in the unit 02.05.20 # no 02.05.25 # I found out what oit was 02.05.32 # oh? 02.05.38 # I needed to reboot the unit 02.05.43 # ahhh 02.05.45 # sorry 02.05.46 # yeah, that'll do it 02.05.54 # I am such a kiddie 02.05.57 # on that one 02.05.59 # sorry again 02.06.09 # but thanks for the help 02.06.20 Quit NibbIer (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.06.23 # enjoy 02.06.30 # think about sorting ;) 02.13.59 Join _MT [0] (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 02.15.11 # heya 02.19.32 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.19.52 # hey Scott 02.19.56 # hey 02.20.29 # just finished building my first firmware under Cygwin 02.20.35 # fun 02.20.39 # copied it over and it works 02.20.53 # now I have something to do with my spare time riding the train 02.21.03 # like rewriting the memory code ;) 02.21.16 # much better than freecell 02.21.22 # indeed! 02.22.08 # as far as freecell, it's all over now. I found it for my PalmOS phone 02.22.21 # now I can play during boring meetings 02.22.29 # hehe 02.22.57 # beats working 02.23.05 # doesnt everything? 02.23.08 Quit MT (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.23.31 # everythings so much more colorful on trillian 02.27.08 # I'm using gaim right now 02.27.25 # but there's a strong possibility I'm gonna go back to Trillian 02.27.41 # i tried gaim, but i didnt like it much 02.27.56 # I used it for the encryption 02.28.00 # much as i like open source 02.28.08 Nick _MT is now known as MT (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 02.28.28 # but since everyone I used to secure msg went to using waste, there's no real point in using such a buggy client 02.28.38 # I like Trillian 02.28.44 # I use Trillian Pro 02.28.57 # i never got around to buying that 02.29.10 # cough, cough, cough..... 02.29.13 # i wish theyd update more often 02.29.17 # * Plugh whistles and looks around innocently 02.29.42 # *i never got around to getting a copy of that 02.30.28 # umm... neither did I. Nope. Nobody saw me do it. You can't prove anything! 02.30.52 # lol 02.31.05 # lol 02.31.36 # there's reasons why I like open source 02.31.50 # i love the development speed 02.32.16 # you can kinda call it your own copy of the program and do as you wish 02.32.19 # theres nothing faster than hackers with free time 02.32.47 # when it's open source 02.32.56 # and from my viewpoint as a QA guy, open source makes for faster response to bugs 02.33.07 # yeah 02.33.17 # cause people who actually USE it fix it 02.33.32 Quit edx () 02.33.49 # theres all kinds of bugs ive found in trillian, but no way to fix them 02.33.50 # there's no one developer I can go to when I find a bug in Windows 02.34.17 # well theres no ONE developer with linux either 02.34.25 # not like I've EVER found a bug in a Microsoft product... *ahem* 02.34.40 # if I find a bug in Linux, I know who to go to 02.34.50 # because they put their name in the code 02.34.51 # i goto bed 02.34.53 # a+ 02.34.58 Quit BoD[] ("bue") 02.34.59 # nite BoD 02.35.46 # but if it's simple enough, I can just go in and patch up the code myself 02.36.03 # ill be back in a minute 02.36.07 # not like I've done that very often, though. I usually don't stumble onto Linux bugs 02.36.12 Quit scott666 () 02.39.05 # Hey Plugh 02.39.12 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.39.20 Join rhyno666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.39.30 # hey, Scott 02.39.38 Quit rhyno666 (Client Quit) 02.39.38 Quit scott666 (Client Quit) 02.39.39 # how did that work out for you? 02.39.42 # hmmm 02.40.19 # Hey Plugh 02.40.20 # ya 02.40.50 # wow 02.40.53 # do you knwo if there is an easier way to setup a duel boot with linux on an XP system 02.40.55 Join rhyno666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.41.01 # 1.89gig of new music going up 02.41.04 # ok 02.41.10 # fuck 02.41.23 Quit Triple-z ("Bye :-") 02.41.36 # I think you need to install XP then Linux 02.41.49 # i have XP installed 02.41.53 # I am useing that now 02.42.05 # but I wanted to setup a duel boot with Mandrake 02.42.13 # do you have any unpartitioned space on your hard drive? 02.42.22 Part rhyno666 02.42.40 Join rhyno666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.42.46 # I used Partition Magic Pro and tried to setup but I was having problems 02.43.01 # I've never used those things 02.43.09 # how the hell do i fix my name... 02.43.11 # actually I haven't dual booted in years 02.43.18 # type /nick whatever 02.43.25 Nick rhyno666 is now known as scott666 (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.43.26 # I thought there was an easier way other then setting it up manualy 02.43.28 # thanks 02.43.31 # np 02.43.40 # ok! trillian pro installed 02.43.44 # woot 02.43.45 # heh 02.43.46 # cool 02.43.50 # that was fast ;) 02.43.54 # you got it working Scott 02.44.02 # ive seen that zip before, except mike had a virus in it 02.44.03 # lol 02.44.13 # no i made that zip 02.44.20 # i collected thoes 02.44.32 # mostly the addons 02.44.41 # I wonder if I still have my virus collection :) 02.44.49 # ive seen a similarly named one then 02.44.49 # lol 02.45.14 # I used to have 1100 virii in a zipfile 02.45.24 # I'd use it to test virus scanning packages 02.45.25 # oh 02.45.35 # lol.... I wonder 02.45.38 # lol 02.45.41 # on KaZaa??? 02.45.50 # id love to just install all of them on someones computer 02.46.09 # I had some nasty ones 02.46.21 # 'warning: 1000 viruses detected' 02.46.24 # I wrote one once that would dial 911 on the victim's modem 02.46.37 # never deployed it though 02.46.39 # hahaha 02.46.59 # simple yet effective 02.47.03 # brilliany 02.47.04 # absolutely 02.47.46 # that was... 15 years ago? I'm a little wiser since 02.48.07 # any thoughts on what antivirus programs are the best out there 02.48.31 # i hear good things about AVG 02.48.49 # and avast 02.48.55 # havnt used em myself 02.49.20 # I am useing Mcafee VirusScan 7 Professional w/ SecurityCenter 02.49.52 # im using mcafee viruscan 4.5.1 02.49.54 # lol 02.50.04 # thing I like about Mcafee is that it will detect trojans 02.50.58 # I have corporate Norton here 02.51.03 # NAV does detect most of them now 02.51.15 # most of my work is done in Linux though 02.51.18 # but there was a time where it didn't at all 02.51.23 # and Solaris 02.51.49 # anyone see Bad Boys 2 yet 02.51.59 # I watched it sunday night it was good 02.52.32 # my movie site is down right now 02.52.33 # ;) 02.52.35 # guess i should not change topics too fast 02.52.54 # shit. i didnt install the patch 02.52.57 # yeah, my head was spinning on top of my neck for a minute there 02.52.57 # ill brb 02.53.07 # oh yeah 02.53.10 # you need the patch 02.53.15 # for AIM to work 02.53.18 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 02.53.28 # patches? We don't need no steenking patches 02.53.35 # lol 02.53.54 # hey plugh 02.53.59 # how's the new firmware treating you? 02.54.00 # ya? 02.54.06 # what's with the bettary setting 02.54.21 # which one? The capacity? 02.54.28 # yesh 02.54.30 # yes 02.54.45 # that's just to estimate life remaining 02.54.50 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 02.54.59 # ok 02.54.59 # better? 02.55.14 # should be better 02.55.23 # the patch is for AIM 02.55.35 # it won't work without the c patch 02.55.53 # it was working before 02.56.05 # i had D for trillian 02.56.58 # well i am able to change the mAh amount in the bettary setting.... is this setting there if i get bettarys with more mAh 02.57.08 # yes 02.57.10 # oh ok 02.57.12 # cool 02.59.03 # I wish all my computers had USB 2.0 02.59.22 # taking 40 mins to copy 1.8gig to my FMR 02.59.46 Join Guest [0] (jirc@ppp-0-63.read-b-1.access.uk.tiscali.com) 02.59.47 # my home box will do it in like 5 03.00.01 # do you have a site login? 03.00.13 # cant download plugins without an account 03.00.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.00.58 # on sourceforge? 03.01.33 # you don't need an account to download plugins 03.01.39 # or any of the other source 03.01.49 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 03.02.10 # no no no, TRILLIAN plugings 03.02.20 # oh 03.02.28 # * Plugh shrugs 03.03.16 # I've been on sourceforge since the OSDN launch about 4 years ago ;) 03.03.32 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 03.03.38 # Linux World Expo San Jose 1999 03.05.32 Part Jensing 03.09.34 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 03.12.13 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 03.14.25 # 1.4 gig left on my 20gig unit 03.14.31 # I really need to upgrade 03.14.41 # yeah me too 03.14.45 # im outa space 03.15.09 # 80gig sounds like something I could live with, but I know I'd have it full in a week 03.15.15 # im scared though 03.15.38 # of soldering? 03.15.50 # no, of fucking it up 03.16.09 # back it up. If it goes bad, spend another $200 03.16.28 # its that last part that worries me 03.16.35 # *doesnt have a job* 03.16.47 # ahhh 03.16.56 # that'd put a crimp in my style 03.18.13 # i love to just pay someone to upgrade the HD and ram, and if they fuck it up they buy me a new one 03.18.41 # mainly ram, thats a lot more intimidating 03.18.51 # HD is cake. RAM scares the shit outta me 03.18.57 # yeah 03.20.48 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 03.21.09 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 03.28.14 # hey 03.28.21 # I found a problem with rockbox 03.28.27 # mm anyone here? 03.28.33 # i am 03.28.46 # scott666: are you a devel or user? 03.28.50 # I lost track of who's who 03.29.03 # little of both 03.29.04 # lol 03.29.10 # mmkay then 03.29.13 # recorder fm 03.29.19 # yup 03.29.31 # testing... 03.29.34 # * scott666 is listening to Tool - Eulogy * 03.29.37 # sweet 03.29.42 # when playing files that are 32kbps instead of 128+ the buffer is awfully small 03.30.00 # so it doesn't last enough for the system to do a spinup and continue playing 03.30.09 # every time it has to spin up audio stops 03.30.14 # for a short time 03.30.41 # scott666: any idea in debug -> mpeg thread what the 2nd bar is? 03.30.54 # scott666: there is a large bar with the playable content and a smaller one 03.30.56 # is that the buffer? 03.31.17 # no clue 03.31.22 # id have to look 03.31.24 # but im not going to 03.31.25 # lol 03.31.41 # heh what a great guy 03.32.08 # im doing too much at once 03.32.13 # h/o ill look 03.32.18 # thu: the second bar represents the point where we start reloading the mpeg buffer 03.32.27 # no i wont 03.32.27 # lol 03.32.49 # hardeep: how come it's really tiny for 32kbps files and big for 256kbps+ files? 03.33.11 # hardeep: for 32kbps ones it's not enough to spin up and grab the next part so playback stops 03.33.38 # hardeep: any way to set it? 03.34.15 # thu: lower bitrate rate files take longer to use up the buffer, hence we can wait longer before reloading 03.34.34 # thu: a value you can play around with is Menu->General Settings->Playback->Anti-Skip Buffer 03.34.44 # hardeep: I have it to 7 secs 03.34.46 # which is max 03.35.03 # you want to see one of the files I'm having trouble with? 03.35.14 # you'll see it right away if you just watch the 2 bars while playing 03.35.36 # thu: i can't right now, but you may want to post it as a bug report and attach your file 03.35.47 # hardeep: I will.. I just found it 03.37.40 # hardeep: it's actually a problem with VBR 03.37.52 # hardeep: the files are between 192 and 256kbps 03.37.57 # but rockbox sees them as 32kbps 03.38.07 # and reserves a small buffer / whatever that is 03.38.41 # hmm 03.38.47 # bad mp3s 03.38.54 # ? 03.38.55 # thu: ah, then there is probably a problem with the vbr header on those files 03.38.57 # try vbr fix? 03.43.43 # scott666: how do I do that? 03.44.24 # select the file in the dir brower and go to the on+play menu 03.44.36 # or download a program on your computer and do it there 03.45.16 # I'll try it on one file in rockbox 03.48.53 # the gods are triumphant 03.48.55 # it worked 03.51.24 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 04.15.37 Part tpelliott 04.16.21 Quit ClosetPacifist (Remote closed the connection) 04.16.28 Join ClosetPacifist [0] (~ClosetPac@ppp07.sns3.NewportNews.visi.net) 04.41.11 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 04.47.13 Quit hardeep ("[BX] You can breathe without BitchX, but I wouldn't recommend it") 04.55.58 Join Scorp [0] (Mike@adsl-67-122-210-253.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 04.56.18 # guys would you say that the charger that comes with the jukebox is decent or is it better to use an outside charger? 04.56.37 #