--- Log for 31.07.103 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 7 days and 15 hours ago 00.36.21 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr) 00.36.27 # hello! 00.41.13 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 00.48.10 Quit scott666 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.01.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.01.39 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 01.14.45 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBC020B.ipt.aol.com) 01.18.05 Quit _aLF ("bye") 01.25.56 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 01.25.58 Quit tracktheripper (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.33.34 Join FlexH [0] (~Flex@hibiscus.yoopla.org) 01.33.49 # hi all 01.34.52 # hi 01.36.08 # i would like to know if there are french people who contribute to rockbox ? :) 01.36.37 # see the credits file and look for french looking names 01.37.16 # ok ;) 01.38.18 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@ACA3EEC0.ipt.aol.com) 01.38.53 # i'm french :) but don't contribute 01.39.05 # ha ok :) 01.39.22 # on peut parler francais ici ? 01.39.36 # nop :) 01.39.44 # well .. on peut 01.39.59 # but it would not be very nice to the other people 01.40.21 # yes of course 01.42.14 # can you help me in query so ? 01.42.31 # maybe :) 01.43.23 # hummm anon cvs is working better now 01.43.45 # great 01.44.04 # it's still a little slow :( 01.44.34 # BoD[] ? do you see my query ? 01.45.12 # oh ? the query about french who contribute ? 01.45.45 # well i don't know.. as I said, I think there are people with "french sounding" names on the credits file 01.46.17 # FlexH: nope... no french here. (at least not from me)... je parle un peu de francais 01.46.31 # not enough :( 01.46.38 # no :) it's about something in english that i don't understand on the website 01.46.40 # like "Julien Labruyére" 01.46.48 # oh 01.47.01 # FlexH: what? 01.47.02 # what don't you understand then 01.47.32 # it's about the flash of the archos with rockbox 01.48.46 # HW info give me "??" and i would like to know if there is a chance to do the flash by another method ? 01.49.30 # sorry I don't know :) 01.49.40 # nope not unless you cut out the old chip, and put in a new one :( 01.50.25 # diddystar5 : yes that is what i want to do but anybody have tried that before ? 01.50.55 # no one has tried that one yet 01.51.39 # arg :( 01.52.11 # i'm curious how archos flashed their crap in those few chips 01.52.58 # yes me too 01.55.17 # i'm scared to do hardware mod on my juxebox :( 01.56.14 # I'll do a HD upgrade, but not the RAM :) 01.56.45 # and much as I'd love to do the remote control upgrade, I use line in for recording 01.57.06 # i would do the ram mod, if i could get the chip without ordering it 01.57.30 # you don't have any electronic supply stores? 01.57.41 # i want to change my eprom to to the flash mod ! 01.58.04 # You may be able to get it through Radio Shack's special order 01.58.12 # humm radio shack, but they don't have it there also a few local stores, but i haven't tried them 01.58.41 # Plugh: maybe... might just try that 02.09.23 Quit diddystar5 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02.33.26 Quit edx ("n1te") 02.36.35 Join Mighty_ [0] (mboss@h72n1fls35o931.telia.com) 02.37.05 # everyone's asleep? 02.37.40 # im not! 02.37.50 # im not too 02.38.19 # not me 02.38.23 # just got a headache 02.42.36 # you're using emacs? 02.43.04 # I've not used an editor that I've felt comfortable with since Borland 4.5 02.43.45 # decided I'll have a first look at emacs this night, just have to learn a real editor, can't spend more time in KWrite :-/ 02.43.58 # but I don't know whether to go for emacs or xemacs 02.44.14 # emacs would be a good OS if it had a decent text editor 02.44.15 # use vim! 02.46.13 # I had a look at vim, hmm 02.46.26 # why would I chose vim instead of emacs? :-)) 02.46.37 # i saw ecb and thought that would be nice to use 02.46.53 # http://ecb.sourceforge.net/ 02.47.16 # good night all 02.47.42 Quit FlexH ("In /dev/null no one can hear you scream") 02.50.47 # Mighty_: I used to use an editor that used the wordstar keys, same as the Borland Turbo Pascal editor 02.50.56 # trying to find it in Linux 02.51.14 # hmm 02.51.26 # I really want to learn emacs or xemacs 02.51.38 # ought to talk to zagor, but he seems to sleep or something 02.52.31 # http://freshmeat.net/projects/crisp/?topic_id=65 02.53.41 # not free ? :-/ 02.53.58 # free for personal non-commercial, non-supported use 02.54.34 # who needs support anyway? 02.54.49 # looks nice 02.56.12 # I'm downloading it now 02.56.36 # use wordstar compat mode. That's what Borland used 03.01.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.02.40 # hmmm, sad it isn't opensource 03.03.47 # I agree 03.05.05 Join johnny24601 [0] (~anywho888@beta.dsl.visi.com) 03.05.32 # hey guys 03.05.36 # hey 03.05.48 # i'm having a problem with my jukebox 6000 03.06.26 # when i try to boot it up, i get the error message "part. error pls chck hd" 03.07.07 # i've looked around the site, and it seemed that the only way to fix it is to disassemble my player 03.07.20 # i am wondering if there is a non-invasive alternative 03.07.39 # i dont have a player, so i have no idea 03.07.56 # why are you here? 03.08.10 # i have an FM recorder 03.08.39 # ok 03.09.00 # when you plug it into your PC, do you get the new drive letter? 03.10.23 # bloody hell 03.10.24 # nope 03.10.30 # crisp is a 21 day trial 03.11.23 # do you know how to fix my problem? 03.13.01 # use a disk management software 03.13.11 # I know how, but you won't like it 03.13.25 # take the hd out and put it in a laptop? 03.13.37 # you can get an adapter for a desktop 03.13.41 Quit Mighty_ ("[BX] Amount of time you people were funny: --54 minutes 51 seconds") 03.13.43 # yeah 03.13.47 # costs like 5 bucks 03.13.56 # cheaper than $200 for a new one 03.14.25 # yeah but the new one would be 60 gigs 03.14.34 # but in answer to your original question, I don't know of any non-invasive procedures 03.14.40 # what do you mean my disk management software? 03.15.02 # if it doesn't show up on the USB, there's not much you can do with that drive stuck inside the little box 03.15.27 Join Jensing [0] (Jensing@pcp289373pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net) 03.15.39 # I suspect your data is toast. 03.15.58 # read the stuff on the rockbox site about upgrading your drive 03.16.06 # i had this problem like a year or two ago, and i was able to download a program that fixed it 03.16.08 # about formatting it FAT32 and stuff 03.16.39 # what is the problem Plugh 03.16.46 # the program was on the archos website 03.16.59 # ask Johnny 03.17.35 # his partition table is cooked 03.18.06 # can't he fix that with Partition Magic 03.18.19 # Plugh: thats not strictly true... 03.18.35 # it just means the partitions are not mountable 03.18.52 Join diddystar5 [0] (diddystar5@AC9E2CC8.ipt.aol.com) 03.19.10 # if the hardware (minus the drive/partitions) works correctly, its just a mass storage device 03.19.25 # hey MT 03.19.45 # hello 03.19.47 # and nn 03.21.07 # MT: i don't know why, but when i use your patch, and try to run another plugin, i get io6 .... whatever errors 03.21.39 # you have to recompile all plugins with the same plugin API 03.21.46 # i did 03.21.54 # as my patch changes the plugin API 03.21.55 # oh 03.21.59 # well, works fine here 03.22.20 # and i have changed my flashed build to up to date with the api 03.23.40 Join vvvvvv [0] (f@ip-216-222-15-58.salmoninternet.com) 03.23.55 Quit diddystar5 ("Gotta go cya") 03.24.09 Join diddystar5 [0] (diddystar5@AC9E2CC8.ipt.aol.com) 03.24.51 Part vvvvvv 03.52.54 Quit BoD[] ("mblegh") 03.52.54 Quit johnny24601 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03.53.14 Join johnny24601 [0] (~anywho888@beta.dsl.visi.com) 04.04.27 # hey Plugh? 04.15.41 Quit johnny24601 () 04.23.32 # how are you gentlement? 04.23.40 # you have no chance to survive make your time 04.25.06 # hey 04.25.36 # i'm making the chip8 emulator a plugin! 04.28.40 # i'm having some problems getting some api stuff into plugin.c arggg 04.31.47 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 04.37.55 Part diddystar5 ("Client exiting") 05.01.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.20.36 Join Kojoejs [0] (Jensing@pcp289373pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net) 05.21.03 Part Kojoejs 05.25.45 Quit hardeep ("[BX] hardeep has left the building") 05.38.32 Quit Jensing (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07.01.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.03.56 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 07.19.21 Quit scott666 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07.38.12 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 08.01.45 Quit midknight2k3 ("-=SysReset 2.53=-") 08.20.51 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.23.30 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: shaken, not stirred") 08.31.03 Join NibbIer [0] (~Nibbler@port-212-202-77-224.reverse.qsc.de) 08.31.04 Quit Nibbler (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.43.41 Join Mighty2 [0] (mboss@h72n1fls35o931.telia.com) 08.43.55 Part Mighty2 08.51.02 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.51.42 # 'ello 09.01.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.06.35 # Hei 09.06.41 # morning 09.07.59 # :-D 09.08.04 # Are you happy today? 09.08.13 # I am 09.08.20 # gonna get my car today 09.08.30 # had a break-in into it on saturday 09.08.37 # been repaired since 09.09.17 # :-( 09.09.22 # Did you lose anything? 09.09.35 # Damn you, evil stockholmian break-inners! 09.09.36 # only my stereo and the car manual 09.09.46 # and they broke a window 09.09.57 # and damaged some interiors with the huge stone they used 09.10.37 # Car manual? :( 09.10.51 # yeah I have no clue why they took that 09.10.52 # The stereo, I can understand. But what would they do with the manual? 09.11.11 # possibly to get the stereo manual, but I don't know 09.11.54 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 09.11.59 # grr 09.12.08 # we desperately need replacement firmware for the rio riot 09.12.15 # you bums should have done that lol 09.12.21 # hah 09.12.48 # wish rockbox could be ported to the riot 09.15.16 # think about it 09.15.21 # would kill the ipod 09.15.34 # I doubt that 09.15.39 # riot is not made by apple 09.15.56 # i really really don't get why everyone wants to 'kill the ipod' 09.16.03 # i don't 09.16.05 # but it would 09.16.06 # know what.. ppl are going to buy units they want no matter what we do 09.16.08 # :) 09.16.10 # for about 300 bux less 09.16.25 # but its also a lesser unit, right? 09.16.31 # riot? 09.16.41 # if we had you guys on it, it would probably be a mdeia player 09.17.08 # grayscale 2.5 screen, like that, nice drive.. 09.18.17 # its just 09.18.26 # if you can do what you have to something like the archos 09.18.36 # you can do wonders for the riot ;) 09.19.42 # what cpu is it? 09.19.54 # let me see 09.20.00 # its an ARM im sure 09.20.07 # the model can be said for sure in a fe seconds 09.20.36 # hmm 09.20.41 # these guys dont seem to know 09.20.43 # How much of the code could be re-used? 09.20.44 # i think its a 09.20.54 # file system drivers, main logic? 09.20.54 # Cirruss Logic ARM-720T 09.21.10 # i have no idea there 09.21.31 # you can get the bin file from the exe installer that flashes the riot but not much more 09.21.35 # the main logic could probably be re-used, but drivers would need to be written 09.21.51 # the main issue is that it can't do download to pc from riot 09.22.12 # and of course the fact that it could do a lot of other stuff :D 09.22.39 # aha 09.22.42 # then again 09.22.47 # linux runs on that cpu 09.22.47 # EP7312 09.22.50 # yeah 09.22.56 # they did linux on it before 09.23.02 # of course no info to the public lol 09.23.05 # linux on a rioriot 09.23.10 # cant even imagine ;) 09.23.21 # "clock speeds up to 74 and 90 MHz" 09.23.31 # here 09.23.32 # We have run linux 2.4 on the Riot before now, but you need serious hardware skills (ie, soldering) in order to get your own firmware onto the device as the firmware upgrades are encrypted. 09.23.32 # Report to moderator 09.23.48 # * Bagder reports 09.23.48 # some sonicblue engineer 09.23.50 # midknight2k3: any cool URL's? 09.23.50 # ;-P 09.23.57 # http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/pro/detail/P139.html 09.23.57 # actually 09.23.59 # B-] 09.24.10 # http://www.rioworld.org/yabbse/index.php 09.24.15 # a good rio forum 09.24.18 # has some info i suppose 09.25.04 # haha 09.25.07 # look here 09.25.11 # http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/app/detail/A19.html 09.25.25 # cirrus suggested way to build an mp3 player with that cpu 09.25.35 # lol 09.25.43 # god i have no idea the cpy 09.25.45 # cpu 09.25.51 # like three different ideas 09.26.03 # from vrious people 09.30.07 # does it appear as a disk when you connect it to your computer? 09.30.10 # I mean usb-wise 09.30.16 # nope 09.30.21 # but new drivers could take care of that 09.30.44 # you use a music manager to transfer to "device" but no pulling off the drive 09.30.56 # and windows xp plus pack or wahtever 09.31.04 # crap 09.31.04 # but not a drive 09.31.12 # i know 09.31.16 # I bet its impossible to use with linux too 09.31.16 # them bums 09.31.17 # lol 09.31.29 # yeah 09.32.12 # I would never consider buying such crap 09.32.26 # you would if there was rockbox for riots 09.32.28 # :D 09.32.30 # nope 09.32.38 # why not? 09.32.44 # because I run linux only 09.32.53 # oh ohohohoh 09.32.58 # you can use with linux 09.33.04 # rioutil.sourceforge.net 09.33.09 # i thought you meant otherwise 09.33.23 # i thought you meant linux would be hard to use if put on the riot 09.33.23 # lol 09.33.50 # I would still be reluctant 09.33.58 # why 09.34.08 # because it isnt usb-storage 09.34.17 # well 09.34.20 # if rockbox existed 09.34.22 # I like that 09.34.23 # it would be 09.34.28 # well 09.34.28 # yeah 09.34.31 # it stucks 09.34.33 # sucks 09.34.42 # let me know when that works and I'll reconsider then :-P 09.34.48 # a new driver could be made but right now we have no info on it at all 09.34.52 # lol 09.35.11 # sigh 09.35.19 # we'll never get out of this mess 09.41.43 # any new rockbox plans coming up? 09.41.50 # new settings or anything? 09.42.08 # I want the bookmark patch in 09.42.22 # in patch section? 09.42.25 # i shall see about this 09.42.27 # and more plugins of course 09.42.37 # what do you plan for new plugins? 09.42.37 # Bagder: USB-storage for all! 09.42.51 # * dwihno has tons of USB gizmos (all USB-storage compliant) 09.42.59 # may i have one? 09.43.04 # Naaah 09.43.08 # I use them all :-) 09.43.16 # but 09.43.17 # but 09.43.18 DBUG Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 09.43.18 # but 09.43.23 # you say "for al" 09.43.24 # hehe 09.43.27 # "for all" that is 09.43.30 # that's not fair 09.43.50 # this bagder? 09.43.51 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=669440&group_id=44306&atid=439120 09.44.23 # yes 09.44.33 # The thing about USB is, there is a standard, so additional "drivers" should not be needed. 09.44.36 # Imho. 09.44.51 # are you referring to the riot dwinho? 09.45.26 # Such as. 09.45.33 # well 09.45.42 # they did it on purpose if you mean the fact you can't take songs off it 09.45.49 # for copy protection or soemthing 09.45.53 # You should simply connect them to the computer, and then the USB-storage drivers should say "ah, more storage detected" 09.45.57 # when apple and archos already were doing it 09.46.25 # unless some dumb programmer says they don't want to use it as mass storage 09.46.29 # just a "device" 09.46.35 # >:D 09.46.37 # lol 09.46.46 # angry laughing face 09.47.39 # :-) 09.47.41 # Archos rules! 09.47.46 # you know 09.47.50 # you're righ 09.48.01 # i love archos only of course because of rockbox 09.48.07 # you guys are the best 09.49.09 # Personally, my heroes are: Björn, Daniel, Linus - and now, because of the firmware flash, Jörg 09.49.34 # took the wrods out of my mouth :D 09.53.35 # lol 09.53.45 # i photoshopped a rio riot stomping on an ipod 10.00.00 Join ShaWiz [0] (ShaWiz@pool-68-161-129-32.ny325.east.verizon.net) 10.00.22 # Hi all anyone up? 10.00.30 # me 10.00.33 # bagder i think 10.00.41 # i am new here 10.00.42 # up up up 10.00.50 # What is the "best" flash media type for portable mp3 players? 10.00.50 # welcome! 10.00.51 # but i got a problem 10.00.53 # define up 10.01.05 # Compact flash = eats batts like crazy 10.01.21 # mm 10.01.30 # smartmedia? 10.01.34 # mmc? 10.01.54 # my damn JB FM 20 keeps freezing at unpredictable points 10.02.21 # never heard of it.. i have an fm but it never locked up recently 10.02.27 # what version? 10.02.28 # i just got it last week an put the rock box on it 10.02.53 # sounds like hw trouble 10.03.05 # what you mean version? you wanna know my rock box version? 10.03.13 # yes 10.03.21 # oh hold up 10.03.27 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 10.03.27 # * Bagder holds 10.03.35 # * midknight2k3 holds "up" 10.03.38 # ;D 10.03.53 # CVS-030730 10.04.04 # brand new 10.04.10 # hmm 10.04.13 # yeah brand new 10.04.15 # must be hw trouble then 10.04.19 # unless... 10.04.30 # never mind 10.04.37 # it locks up or shuts off? 10.04.47 # it locks up 10.04.49 # does rockbox give an error or anything? 10.04.52 # no 10.04.55 # none 10.05.05 # just frozen? 10.05.10 # well i wuldn't know much about that 10.05.21 # it works find it just freezes 10.05.22 # doesn't sound like a hardware related issue but i could be wrong 10.05.34 # an i can't tell when it is gonna do it 10.05.49 # the red light says on 10.05.54 # if it does it with the archos firmware too, then I say return it 10.05.56 # stays on? 10.05.57 # an it stops 10.06.08 # that's red led dead isnt it 10.06.13 # could be, yes 10.06.22 # dead? 10.06.28 # what they call it 10.06.31 # random lockups 10.06.32 # the most dreaded bug known in rockbox 10.06.39 # wow 10.06.45 # it requires a reboot lol 10.06.49 # fear it! 10.06.54 # yeah i know 10.06.58 # but i do admit the biggest 10.07.01 # i reboot 10.07.09 # yeah 10.07.12 # an it works fine again 10.07.15 # about all you can do i suspect 10.07.20 # well 10.07.38 # should i return it? 10.07.46 # here's some info 10.07.46 # http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&group_id=44306&atid=439118&aid=622799 10.07.48 # or is it normal? 10.07.51 # only if it does the same when running the archos firmware 10.07.59 # which it probably doesn't 10.08.02 # but of course there's not much of a way around it supposedly 10.08.04 # from what i know 10.08.06 # and then its "just" a rockbox bug 10.08.19 # o 10.08.30 # i dunno 10.08.32 # never happened to me 10.08.38 # me neither 10.08.43 # i didn't like the archos fw 10.08.44 # worst i got is that PANIC rec fls -2111 or whatever 10.08.52 # lol 10.09.05 # only use it if you "have to" 10.09.16 # o 10.09.28 # i don't want to 10.09.40 # the locks ain't that bad 10.09.50 # well 10.09.51 # for me to use that again 10.09.55 # it's not nice having them 10.09.57 # not at all 10.10.06 # hmm 10.10.25 # but i might return it 10.10.33 # i guess it's an issue with only a select few units? 10.10.34 # is clicking normal in it? 10.10.35 # well 10.10.44 # replace it if possible 10.10.45 # clicking? 10.10.54 # it's a hard drive, it clicks on spinup+down 10.11.06 # is that normal? 10.11.09 # yeah 10.11.12 # ok 10.11.13 # all hard drives do that 10.11.25 # i had thought it was broke 10.11.28 # my makes no noticable clicks 10.11.28 # some are less noticeable though 10.11.35 # when i first heard that 10.11.36 # none at all bagder? 10.11.39 # no 10.11.43 # not that I can hear 10.11.51 # none??!?!? 10.11.58 # jeezus i can hear mine across the room 10.12.04 # lol 10.12.08 # clicklcicklcickclickety click, whirrrr.... 10.12.13 # nah mine ain't that bad 10.12.20 # i was exaggerating 10.12.23 # i had notice it when i got real close 10.12.25 # but it's very audible 10.12.35 # not at all silent 10.12.46 # you probably have a replaced hard drive bagder lol 10.12.50 # the new 200gb model? 10.12.50 # :D 10.13.04 # archos use all sorts of different hard drives 10.13.36 # what is the deal with the disk spindown option in rock box? 10.13.43 # i don't know what it does 10.13.50 # tried reading the manual? 10.14.01 # it sets the amount of time elapsed before rockbox spinds the hard drive down 10.14.04 # yeah 10.14.20 # but what is the use? 10.14.20 # loger times means quicker navigations, but less abttery life 10.14.28 # o 10.14.29 # well 10.14.35 # if its set to 5 seconds 10.14.42 # o i ight 10.14.50 # rockbox waits for 5 seconds of no disk activity before spinning the drive down 10.15.03 # bagder 10.15.03 # so i should set it low then 10.15.05 # i got the idea! 10.15.08 # well 10.15.11 # it is on like 60s now 10.15.14 # 3-5 seconds is the usual 10.15.17 # 60s? 10.15.18 # wow 10.15.24 # that can't be default 10.15.36 # i'd say perhaps 5 seconds 10.15.44 # lol 10.15.49 # 5 is fine 10.15.50 # i didn't know what it was 10.15.56 # an put it up high 10.15.59 # bagder - did you ever consider topping off the buffer when the ahrd drive is accessed for other reasons? 10.16.22 # like to load a plugin or navigate the drive 10.17.06 # is it possible to ever change the hard drive in my archos? 10.17.13 # yes 10.17.18 # but it will void the waranty 10.17.23 # and you have to be able to solder 10.17.24 # midknight2k3: well, it could be done, but it would be fairly complicated too 10.17.24 # oh 10.17.28 # otherwise it's not that hard 10.17.36 # solder? 10.17.38 # just an idea bagder 10.17.39 # well 10.17.43 # solder what? 10.17.52 # there's 7 points or so around the outside when you pop off the cover 10.17.55 # I don't think there's any soldering in a recorder 20 10.17.58 # either unsolder or cut them 10.18.01 # of 10.18.05 # it's fm recorder 10.18.13 # it's very simple work 10.18.21 # or "fairly simple" 10.18.23 # :) 10.18.23 # ah 10.18.25 # yeah? 10.18.26 # fm 10.18.32 # yeah 10.18.42 # i may try one day 10.18.44 # maybe that can be my project when i learn c bagder 10.18.52 # top off buffer when drive is accessed 10.18.56 # yeps 10.19.11 # or "when i learn a bit more" 10.19.44 # i noticed that my thing seems to only lock up when i am out walking with it in my pocket 10.20.13 # when i am chillin it last till the battery dies 10.20.19 # seems even more like the red led dead 10.20.28 # like now i am listening to it 10.21.29 # do any of you got the rca 40gig jukebox? 10.21.39 # not a chance 10.21.41 # i wanna know if thats any good 10.21.59 # i'd seriously recommend the fm recorder over anything there is out there today 10.22.12 # but for an option there's always epinions.com 10.35.22 Join ShaWiz01 [0] (ShaWiz@pool-68-161-64-104.ny325.east.verizon.net) 10.35.45 # hello again 10.35.53 # erm 10.35.57 # hello mr. 1 10.36.07 # i don't know what just happened 10.36.27 # huh 10.36.28 # but i had to restart 10.36.36 # you're still here 10.36.36 # my computer 10.36.37 # lol 10.36.41 # lol 10.36.44 # i see that 10.36.49 # ahahahahahahah 10.36.59 # how odd? 10.37.16 # bagder am i scaring away the rockbox consumers? 10.37.17 # :) 10.37.39 # nah, we have track for that :-P 10.37.46 # lol 10.37.50 # trackie 10.38.37 # there wasn't a daily build for yesterday was there? 10.38.48 # I fixed it just now 10.38.59 # it seems to have failed somehow before 10.39.09 # ? 10.39.14 # it didn't build? 10.39.17 # oh 10.39.24 # huh? 10.39.53 # oh you did 10.40.06 # what new in this build? 10.40.09 Quit ShaWiz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10.41.05 # there are new builds every day 10.41.11 # i know 10.41.12 # it doesn't mean there are always much new 10.41.28 # today, there's... *nothing* new ;-) 10.41.43 # so whats different then? 10.41.53 # nothing 10.42.00 # just the number? 10.42.07 # the date, yes 10.42.14 # ok 10.42.32 # and I fixed the rocks package build to exclude zero-byte ones 10.42.42 # bagder 10.43.03 # what does that mean? 10.43.05 # what new things do you expect to come in the form of rocks 10.43.16 # the calendar is messed up 10.43.20 # no surprise there 10.43.20 # lol 10.43.44 # I don't know, only the imagination of the creators set the limit 10.43.58 # I think we'll get numerous games 10.44.00 # i just wonder what we could do 10.44.04 # i hope so 10.44.05 # :d 10.44.07 # oops 10.44.09 # lol 10.44.09 # :D 10.44.24 # the chip8 patch as a plugin would give us a bunch new ones at once 10.44.47 # now THAT would be cool 10.44.57 # but some games are bad 10.45.06 # you guys could go through and see which ones are worth keeping 10.45.11 # like pong is unusable 10.45.30 # F1 and right, and there's no other player controls 10.52.47 Quit ShaWiz01 () 11.01.10 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBEDB0B.ipt.aol.com) 11.01.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.01.21 # Morning :) 11.01.26 # hey hey 11.01.31 # howdy 11.01.37 # trackie 11.01.37 # hi mid and bag 11.01.41 # bag 11.01.42 # that's mean 11.01.52 # mean to say someone's a bag 11.01.55 # :D 11.02.02 # :-( 11.02.29 Join ShaWiz [0] (ShaWiz@pool-68-161-64-104.ny325.east.verizon.net) 11.02.30 # how dare you put a frown face! 11.02.37 # it's your offense! 11.02.44 # midknight i plugged in the charger last night but forgot to switch it on at the wall! :-( 11.02.51 # hahaha 11.03.09 # i need the JB today so im quickly charging it on the Archos firmware 11.03.36 # for what 11.03.44 # it's 203 at night 11.03.45 # lol 11.03.49 # are you using my firmware? 11.04.29 # no im using the archos firmware now 11.04.44 # well 11.04.46 # rockbox wise 11.04.59 # hmm.. could one of you tell me whats a good Anti-Skip Buffer setting? 11.05.06 # Why does the recorder have a "software charger?" 11.05.31 # 0, shawiz 11.05.41 # 0 11.05.42 # ShaWiz: everything default is good 11.05.55 # just change what you think should be changed 11.06.04 # the number in seconds is how much sooner the disk spins up to refill the buffer, incase you jog with it or something 11.06.05 # k 11.06.20 # midkite if the recorder has a software charger at least it can have other things software wise 11.06.21 # :P 11.06.53 # yes 11.06.54 # lol 11.07.25 # like an "ahem" software WMA decoder :-) 11.07.25 # i love my jbox 11.07.36 # an you guys at rockbox 11.07.42 # thanks lots 11.08.02 # lolol 11.08.03 # what the need for that decoder? 11.08.10 # it's a joke it think 11.08.17 # you cant be sure with tracktheripper 11.08.20 # :D 11.08.36 # mp3's are great enough 11.09.03 # i mean i have my whole cd collection in my pocket 11.09.04 # it's a joke 11.09.05 # lol 11.09.08 # yeah 11.09.09 # its great 11.09.11 # why bitch about more 11.09.19 # it's a joooooke 11.09.26 # or even a software bigger RAM, like 300Mb 11.09.26 # :)) 11.09.29 # i don't use wma format at all 11.09.33 # see 11.09.36 # the above is a joke too 11.09.39 # impossible 11.09.41 # therefore a joke 11.09.43 # lol 11.09.49 # :) 11.09.55 # ok 11.09.57 # no it isnt because u could use a bit of the hard-drive as extra ram 11.09.58 # :) 11.10.04 # at these "jokes" you have the options of "lol", ":)" or ":D" 11.10.50 # well i will just use all lol, :) an :D 11.11.14 # :D:D:D:D:DD 11.11.22 # damn it's late here 11.11.28 # i gotta get some sleep 11.11.39 # u could make the LCD colour by getting 3 felt pens (red green blue) and colouring in the appropriate pixels on the LCD :)) 11.11.58 # yeah 11.12.01 # what time shawiz 11.12.07 # ahahaha 11.12.08 # 5:14 11.12.14 # ahahahahaha 11.12.16 # 514 11.12.19 # thats just funny 11.12.19 # its 212 here 11.12.31 # it's an aforementioned "joke", see? 11.12.39 # :) 11.13.18 # someone is gonna mess there box up listening to him 11.13.26 # lol 11.13.33 # Finally mid, when that is done, plug a USB TV tuner into the Archos and watch Eastenders on the LCD :)):)):)) 11.13.43 # AHAAHAHAHA 11.13.45 # god 11.13.48 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip122.rsidus.riege.de) 11.13.49 # lol 11.13.55 # and even record programs to the HD like a VCR :)) 11.13.55 # that guy is the jokerster 11.14.13 # i am out gotta hit the pillow 11.14.19 # thanks again 11.14.23 # ok 11.14.25 # bye 11.14.25 # have fun 11.14.26 # and 11.14.27 # remember 11.14.30 # these are jokes 11.14.33 # bye 11.14.33 # do not try at home 11.14.37 # trackie is mentally ill 11.14.38 # lol 11.14.40 # bye 11.14.42 # nite 11.14.47 # nite 11.14.49 Quit ShaWiz () 11.14.51 # sorry track 11.15.06 # you must help inexperienced users out 11.15.08 # :-) 11.15.12 # ywa 11.15.29 # seeya 11.15.29 # :) 11.15.31 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 11.17.22 # where's been linusn lately? 11.17.30 >>> "seen" used by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) [snoop prevented] 11.17.39 # havent seen him for a few weeks 11.17.46 # he used to be on a lot 11.18.52 # he's on vacation 11.18.58 # yay! 11.19.00 # how long? 11.19.44 # sigh am i tired of all this helping and joking and sophisticated rockbox chat! 11.19.52 # i must get some rest now 11.19.59 # good bye whoever is here 11.20.02 # and good nite 11.21.09 Quit midknight2k3 ("iL missI himN alreadyU comeS backN! (i miss him already come back / LINUSN) -=SysReset 2.53=-") 11.23.57 Quit tm ("Client exiting") 11.54.42 # * Bagder walks away 12.08.08 Join Norlin [0] (mboss@h72n1fls35o931.telia.com) 12.08.49 # has zagor been around today? 12.12.57 # he's on vacation 12.13.18 Nick Bagder is now known as Bagder-away (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 12.16.11 # somewhere down south? 12.16.28 # he mentioned something about some sunny place, or was that a dream I had? 12.16.46 # I've decided to start learning emacs for the first time 12.17.30 # I wanted to talk to zagor about whether I should try xemacs or GNU emacs, but when I didn't find him I've starte building GNU emacs 12.23.37 Quit Norlin ("[BX] The Power Rangers use BitchX. Shouldn't you?") 12.56.45 Quit thu ("zZz") 13.01.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.28.47 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB04B.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.57.27 Quit Harlequin (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.57.29 Join Harlequin [0] (~SimonB@gromit.eng.eircom.net) 14.51.16 Nick Bagder-away is now known as Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 15.01.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.51.25 # I like rockbox. 15.51.28 # I like it alot. 15.51.33 # I like it so much. 15.51.35 # It is nice. 15.51.40 # :-) 15.51.53 # I like mp3s that can shuffle 15.52.04 # I like a recorder that does not crash 15.52.10 # I like long battery life 15.52.13 # I like games. 15.52.18 # I like dynamic playlists. 15.52.33 # I like queuing up songs for my friends like I am a super DJ 15.52.55 # I like knocking out fellow ipod owners with my jukebox 15.53.21 # I like large playlists. 16.07.16 Join nevs [0] (nevs@ACBA957D.ipt.aol.com) 16.07.20 # hey 16.28.09 # hello 16.28.46 # hi 16.30.25 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16.30.32 # how r u 16.32.03 # I'm just fine thanks, you? 16.32.46 # fine 16.34.02 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 16.34.44 Nick dwihno is now known as dw|gone (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 16.37.21 # hi dwihno 16.50.39 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 16.53.19 Quit TotMacher ("Sind wir nicht alle ein bischen TotMacher ?") 17.01.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.21.32 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 17.33.50 Quit nevs () 18.02.10 Join diddystar5 [0] (Lee@ACA5F8F6.ipt.aol.com) 18.06.13 # hardeep: anything more new with the patch? :) as you can see I love it! 18.08.27 # hardeep: i think it's ready for CVS! 18.12.50 # gotta go 18.12.52 Quit diddystar5 ("Gotta Go!") 18.28.49 # personally, i think its brilliant 18.29.04 # but i'd ditch the playlist numbers 18.29.13 # and squish everything up a bit more 18.33.25 Join _aLF [0] (~alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-17-174.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.43.52 # MT: yeah, i've been thinking of making what gets displayed configurable... but probably as a post-release change 18.44.00 # gotta go 18.44.02 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Silly wabbit, BitchX is for kids!") 18.55.45 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 19.01.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.10.32 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 19.14.10 Join edx` [0] (edx@pD9EAB0DF.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.17.19 DBUG Enqueued KICK scott666 19.17.19 # anyone01,9901,010400 00,9901here?01,9901,01040000,9901 19.25.51 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19.26.03 Nick edx` is now known as edx (edx@pD9EAB0DF.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.04.20 Join midknight2k3 [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 20.05.43 # hey midknight 20.05.49 # hey scott 20.05.55 # earhurts hasn't been around 20.06.07 # perhaps he has lost his power from the archos ;) 20.06.14 # no, he said on the list hes been havin comp problems 20.06.14 # remember i get the spleen 20.06.28 # link me 20.06.45 # http://rockbox.haxx.se 20.06.50 # Grr 20.06.52 # dumbo 20.07.09 # look in the archives 20.07.28 # its in one of his threads about 50% longer battery life 20.07.31 # did you see.. "se'ed sead's tribute to rockbox" photo? 20.07.41 # yeah 20.07.45 # what is it? 20.07.49 # i don't understand 20.07.52 # i saw it when he posted it to the list 20.07.58 # thats not a photo 20.07.59 # oh oho 20.08.06 # 3d? 20.08.06 # its a 3d rendering 20.08.12 # like computer generated? 20.08.14 # yeah 20.08.15 # cool 20.08.19 # how can i do that stuff 20.08.21 # lol 20.08.25 # you cant 20.08.27 # lol 20.08.35 # looked a bit "fake" but in a good way :D 20.08.38 # why not? 20.08.41 # i can too! 20.09.13 # he said he scanned every side of it and then used some program 20.09.15 # Cinema4D eh? 20.09.20 # ok 20.09.20 # lol 20.09.23 # i can do that 20.09.27 # whatever.. it is 20.10.14 # lol 20.13.02 # i cant find it 20.13.06 # whats earhurts email 20.16.53 # is WAV uncompressed? 20.16.59 # yeah 20.17.10 # sheezus i want that ihp 20.17.17 Join JorBond [0] (~haha@dhcp024-209-003-214.cinci.rr.com) 20.17.19 # earhurts is something@diffenbach.org 20.17.24 # i think 20.17.34 # look in the list archive 20.17.55 # thats what im doing! 20.18.02 # i think signing up to the dev mailing list was a mistake lol, already have 30 e-mails from it 20.18.09 # TP Diffenbach is the only diffenbach there 20.18.11 # lol jorbond 20.18.14 # yes 20.18.18 # i unsubscribed 20.18.26 # much easier to read from archives 20.18.29 # all sorted and stuff 20.18.35 # i like to have something to read 20.18.58 # gogogoga 20.19.29 # reading 30 emails doesnt take nearly aslong as it sounds like it would 20.20.07 # i need like 1 daily e-mail of all e-mails sent, and a nice summary added 20.20.17 # lol 20.20.20 # a "digest" 20.20.25 # we have that 20.20.34 # surre 20.20.56 # its called "the rockbox digest", theres a link on the main page 20.21.08 # thats different 20.21.53 Join Bove [0] (jirc@dsc05-nyi-ny-5-210.rasserver.net) 20.22.43 # was trying to think if pong on the player would be playable 20.22.54 # breakout would 20.23.02 # b/c it would be so easy only having to move it up 1 or down 1 20.23.23 # I have a question regarding my Archos recorder... The display is blank... 20.23.32 # is it on? 20.23.41 # yes 20.23.56 # I tried the key sequence outlined in the faq 20.24.02 # jorbond: 20.24.04 # not yet 20.24.05 # are the batts charged full 20.24.09 # did you press up at the end? 20.24.15 # key sequence? 20.24.17 # neat 20.24.17 # down=lower contrast 20.24.19 # i pressed down and up 20.24.27 # up=higher 20.24.44 # it really sucks typing with no spacebar 20.24.53 # im not sure if the batt is charged... its plugged in 20.24.58 # you have no spacebar? 20.25.02 # ill try up 20.25.04 # i have one 20.25.31 # but01,9901,0104 04,9901it01,9901,0104 04,9901doesnt01,9901,0104 04,9901work 20.25.31 # i have a player, don't know if the recorder has the same problem, but if the bat. are really low and i connect the a/c adapter the screen will stay blank 20.26.02 # then after an hour i can disconnect the a/c and plug it back in then it says charging 20.26.05 # AHA 20.26.08 # hmmm I see... The light comes on... but no screen display 20.26.12 # are you using rockbox, bove? 20.26.18 # yes 20.26.21 # rats 20.26.24 # lol 20.26.29 # is the a/c connected 20.26.45 # should i? 20.27.19 # i would try it 20.27.29 # ok 20.27.30 # power it off, connect it, then power it on 20.27.41 # jorbond 20.27.46 # it powers on automatically 20.28.08 # yeah, it powered on 20.28.29 # so, the light came on and went off.. 20.28.52 # the display light is off... and the green led is on 20.29.04 # have u been using it a lot 20.29.17 # just let it charge for a bit then reboot into rockbox 20.29.18 # i just got it today. 20.29.22 # ok 20.29.26 # it needs to be charged first 20.29.37 # its not new... 20.29.59 # but ok... ill charge it 20.30.00 # ? 20.30.07 # how long for full charge? 20.30.07 Join Josh_ [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-211-224-23.mia.bellsouth.net) 20.30.07 # yes just charge it 20.30.15 # i'd say 4 hours maybwe 20.30.21 # Thanks a lot. 20.30.25 # probably 2 20.30.35 # just check the battery meter in rockbox in an hour 20.30.52 # : ) if I can see it 20.31.05 # yeah ;D 20.32.03 Quit Bove ("Leaving") 20.34.11 # aha 20.34.19 # i am now downloading cinema 4d 20.34.23 # and i will make something 20.34.29 # even if it looks complicated 20.34.50 # perhaps an ear 20.34.54 # in tribute to earHurts 20.35.27 # is it possible to change the tiles in the charset of the player 20.35.34 # nope 20.36.09 # then how did they create Rocklatin1 20.36.17 # if it is different then the origional charset 20.36.33 # they didn't creat it 20.36.36 # how it works is 20.36.51 # the player has 4 or 8 char cells that can be anything you want 20.37.06 # they made them, volume, battery.. etc 20.37.10 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 20.37.13 # only 4 can be displayed at a time 20.37.20 # or 8 depending on version 20.37.37 # that's my belief, you'd have to ask bagder or linus or zagor 20.37.42 # ok 20.37.46 # that's what someone said 20.41.48 # so i can create 4-8 new char on the screen at a time? 20.41.58 # well 20.42.02 # then remove them and write 4 more 20.42.02 # if you're a programmer 20.42.08 # that doesn't apply to recorders 20.42.18 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/rocklatin.html 20.42.24 # The old LCD can have 4 software defined characters, and the new LCD can have 8 software defined characters. 20.42.30 # tada 20.42.35 # so in turn the player can be used as a bitmap display kinda 20.42.40 # no.. 20.42.42 # it's very ugly 20.42.49 # i know i was looking that the page, didnt help 20.42.58 # you have a recorder? 20.43.11 # no, a player 20.43.25 # oh im goin the worng way here sorry 20.43.26 # lol 20.43.33 # um 20.43.42 # i guess 20.44.02 # but the recorder is of course much better as a picture displayer even though it would still look bad 20.46.32 # when are the devs usually on 20.46.43 # no specific time 20.46.55 # hmm 20.46.55 # bagder, usually at night 20.47.04 # depending on where you live 20.47.06 # lol 20.47.06 # my flash isnt working _at all_ 20.47.10 # :/ 20.47.11 # whats wrong 20.47.23 # it wont flash or after it flashed it wont work? 20.47.42 # gives a CPUAddr error, then goes into a loop of ROLO complaining about file length 20.48.05 # right after flashing? 20.48.17 # well, no 20.48.21 # it never gets flashed 20.48.38 # you try to flash but it wont 20.48.38 # ? 20.48.50 # sright 20.49.04 # for the first time? 20.49.17 # nah 20.49.25 # to replace rockbox? 20.49.39 # i flashed a couple of days ago 20.49.41 # to update it? 20.49.48 # with the 'distribution' version 20.49.57 # mine has a 'few' patches applied 20.50.02 # lol 20.50.04 # thats fine 20.50.11 # look at the version number 20.50.11 # ive already replaced it 2-3 times 20.50.44 # its the version i flashed a while back 20.50.45 # or 20.50.47 # hmm 20.51.03 # you need a ucl file 20.51.07 # not an ajz file 20.51.10 # if you didnt know 20.51.12 # you think? 20.51.17 # sorry 20.51.17 # lol 20.51.36 # bah 20.51.36 # it's the rockbox_flash.rock plugin 20.51.41 # make sure it's for that day 20.51.47 # it has the same fking build time/version 20.51.49 # the same day as you have (version) 20.51.59 # sigh 20.52.07 # how would you know 20.52.10 # you cant rolo a ucl 20.52.19 # no 20.52.24 # calm down 20.52.33 # thats what im trying to do 20.52.35 # i have done several builds 20.52.38 # you're confusing me 20.52.46 # including one that is currently stored in there 20.52.53 # and they all have the same version tag 20.53.00 # which may be the cause for confusion 20.53.12 # if it aint, hope for help elsewhere 20.55.54 # AHA 20.55.57 # i figured a new game 20.56.03 # like wormlet, but different 20.56.32 # you're the wormlet, you have to go from beginning to end, and there's walls in the way and stuff you have to go around and you have to get all the food 20.56.42 # then go to the exit door 20.57.11 # sounds fun 20.57.13 # i have the game on my old windows computer 20.57.19 # when can you write it? 20.57.20 # which 20.57.22 # i think it was called rat race 20.57.23 # me? 20.57.31 # maybe later when i learn more 20.57.33 # no it was rattlers revenge 20.57.53 # WOW 20.57.56 # :D 20.58.12 # wish the wormlet patch got accepted 20.58.49 # rattlers race, lol bad memory 21.00.45 Quit Josh_ ("Client exiting") 21.01.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.11.42 # well 21.18.45 # hehe found a nice bug in the plugin system on the player 21.19.05 # what 21.19.20 # whats the bug 21.19.37 # if u try and load the viewer plugin, it will give an error like it should 21.19.50 # but if u push left or right it will start loading other plugins in the dir 21.20.04 # hmm 21.20.05 # odd 21.20.11 # then it will kinda crash 21.20.19 # and start spinning through the dirs really fast 21.20.43 # submit it as a bug report 21.21.07 # i will, just want to try and make sure i can reproduce it everytime to help the devs 21.21.57 # er 21.21.59 # uh? 21.22.38 # know the exact keys to push so others can reproduce it 21.22.56 # i know 21.23.02 # i was just saying er uh 21.23.07 # googoogaigai 21.39.24 Nick JorBond is now known as jb|gaming (~haha@dhcp024-209-003-214.cinci.rr.com) 21.41.22 Join scott666 [0] (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.44.26 DBUG Enqueued KICK scott666 21.44.26 # anyone here?01,9901,0104150010000404,9901 21.44.39 Quit _aLF ("Client exiting") 21.44.40 # me meme 21.45.07 # its always quiet in this channel 21.45.21 # ger, yes i serpose 21.45.28 # unless bagder or zagger or linusn is around 21.45.57 # i havnt seen linus in irc yet 21.46.04 # no? 21.46.10 # he's been gone for a week or so 21.46.12 # on vacation 21.46.20 # he used to be here very often 21.46.38 # badger was on the other week ago, and zagors been on vacation a lot 21.47.09 # other week ago? 21.47.16 # bagder was on last night 21.47.25 # zagor, well he hasnt been on for a few days 21.47.31 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 2 hours and 27 minutes at the last flood 21.47.31 # * scott666 sighs * 21.47.36 # try this: /msg logbot seen "name" 21.47.37 # there goes my sanity 21.47.43 # like /msg logbot seen Zagor 21.47.48 # he'll tell you 21.47.51 >>> "seen" used by scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) [snoop prevented] 21.48.07 # -logbot- Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) signed off 4 days and 21 hours ago ("Client exiting") 21.48.15 # 4 days 21.48.16 # mm 21.48.23 # linus however, has been gone 89 21.48.25 # 8 21.48.26 # lol 21.48.28 # 8 days 21.48.32 >>> "seen" used by scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) [snoop prevented] 21.48.34 # try to see yourself 21.48.40 >>> "seen" used by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) [snoop prevented] 21.48.47 # -logbot- I have never seen 'linus' 21.48.51 # LinusN 21.48.54 # is irc name 21.48.57 # ahh 21.48.59 # heh 21.49.06 # try to see me 21.49.09 # try to see logbot 21.49.15 Join _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-17-151.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.49.17 >>> "seen" used by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) [snoop prevented] 21.49.18 >>> "seen" used by scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) [snoop prevented] 21.49.39 >>> "seen" used by scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) [snoop prevented] 21.49.45 # -logbot- You need glasses badly 21.49.53 # lol 21.49.59 # -logbot- Yes, I am here. 21.50.25 >>> "seen" used by scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) [snoop prevented] 21.50.31 # -logbot- Yeah, I see you. Boy, you're ugly ;) 21.50.55 # playing with logbot is funny 21.51.05 >>> "commands" by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.51.21 >>> "alias trackteripper" by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.51.26 >>> "alias tracktheripper" by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.51.37 >>> "tracktheripper alias" by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.51.55 # logbot is busted 21.52.03 # ? 21.52.09 >>> "wholeft" by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.52.18 # i dunno 21.52.23 # try /msg logbot commands 21.52.28 # gives you a list 21.52.47 >>> "commands" by scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.53.16 # ive stopped caring 21.53.18 # lol 21.53.36 # bum 21.53.46 >>> "dw|gone alias" by midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.56.27 # hmmm 21.56.45 Join mp3glee [0] (~jirc@66.28.226.77) 21.56.47 # damn 21.57.01 # what 21.57.06 # /nick logbot 21.57.20 # ? 21.57.29 # lol 21.57.29 # try it 21.57.32 # so 21.57.42 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as scott999 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.57.59 Nick scott666 is now known as midknight2k4 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.57.59 DBUG Enqueued KICK midknight2k4 21.58.05 # lol 21.58.29 # hey 21.58.33 # that confused me 21.58.38 # i didnt recall saying lol 21.58.39 # lol 21.58.43 # STOP 21.58.46 # it confuse me gain 21.58.49 # what? 21.58.55 # again 21.59.00 # it looks like what i typed 21.59.03 # so stop 21.59.10 # im midknight2k_4_ 21.59.26 Nick scott999 is now known as logbo (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.59.29 # oops 21.59.35 # lol 21.59.41 Nick logbo is now known as logb0t (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 21.59.44 Nick midknight2k4 is now known as scott666 (~scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.59.44 DBUG Enqueued KICK scott666 21.59.59 # grr 22.00.15 # WHAT? 22.00.20 # fucing caps 22.00.26 Quit mp3glee (Client Quit) 22.00.27 # yes, fucing 22.00.32 # erm 22.00.33 # what 22.00.36 Nick logb0t is now known as midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 22.00.40 # caps lock 22.02.45 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 minute and 45 seconds at the last flood 22.02.45 # * scott666 explodess * 22.03.05 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as earsHurt (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 22.03.14 Nick earsHurt is now known as buns (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 22.03.17 # :D 22.03.24 # oops 22.03.33 # sigh 22.03.56 # * scott666 reforms * 22.04.14 # * buns has quit IRC (Quit:"Buns!") 22.05.06 Quit buns ("-=SysReset 2.53=-") 22.05.12 Join buns [0] (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 22.05.17 # hello 22.05.21 # am i still buns 22.05.25 Nick buns is now known as midknight2k3 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com) 22.05.25 # no 22.05.30 # thedfe 22.05.31 # there 22.07.01 Join Triple-z [0] (Mp3@212.116.168.34.knet.co.il) 22.07.28 # lol @ topic 22.07.38 # yes 22.07.40 # bagder set it 22.07.44 # i got the opportunity 22.07.50 # but i couldn't come up with one 22.08.23 # i didnt flash my jb yet, is it working good? 22.08.36 # recorder? 22.09.18 # yah 22.09.21 # yeah 22.09.23 # yeah its great 22.09.31 # scott must now take over 22.09.37 # GRR 22.09.38 # i hate that 22.09.42 # aggf 22.09.45 # its 'okay' 22.09.51 # what 22.09.58 # come on 22.09.58 # except01,9901,010400 charging doesnt work right with normal recorders i hear00,9901 22.10.06 # its definately less stable than the equivalent rockbox 22.10.14 # why not 22.10.21 # stable?? 22.10.27 # charging is seriously screwed, but its not that much of a problem 22.10.28 # rockbox doesnt crash! 22.10.33 # yes, it does 22.10.34 # i know 22.10.37 # its fine in flash 22.10.40 # same as always 22.10.58 # thats why its a development version, and not a release 22.10.59 # im not really sure how to flash it 22.11.05 # the releases never crash 22.11.06 # i can help if you lile 22.11.11 # rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html 22.11.18 # that's not nice 22.11.24 # yeah i look at that menual 22.11.29 # guide him thru it 22.11.33 # not let him figure it 22.11.49 # well its not THAT complicated 22.11.59 # for some it might be 22.12.22 # its step by step 22.12.28 # ! 22.12.29 # flash_rec.zip after i unzip it to the root 22.12.32 # complicated 22.12.38 # sigh 22.12.41 # see hes confused 22.12.45 # i'll help 22.12.48 # and i did check my flash it not showin ???? 22.12.48 # lol 22.12.56 # what where? 22.13.00 # how? 22.13.22 # hes saying the info doesnt say flash m=?? 22.13.37 # in the debug 22.13.42 # yeah 22.13.53 # he says its ok 22.13.56 # it's NOT saying ???? 22.14.03 # my unit is ok for flashing i guess 22.14.07 # yes 22.14.08 # thats what he said 22.14.09 # make sure you know 22.14.11 # how 22.14.16 # do you need help? 22.14.20 # dude 22.14.28 # i like helping 22.14.30 # he just said he checked that it was ok 22.14.36 # the flash 22.14.41 # does he need help FLASHING not CHECKING 22.14.59 # now why do i need to dump the ROM for? 22.15.10 # just in case 22.15.28 # to have back-up copy of your current firmware 22.16.41 # hmm ok 22.16.43 # did it 22.17.05 # ok 22.17.15 # now copy the two internal roms to your computer 22.17.19 # the 2 new bin files 22.17.28 # i have to overwrite the ajbrec.ajz from the flesh zip? 22.17.39 # nono 22.17.43 # oh 22.17.44 # yes 22.17.47 # do so 22.17.53 # and back up the internal roms 22.18.22 # ok sec 22.19.07 # i have a better idea 22.19.10 # when you'er backed up 22.19.19 # did it 22.19.25 # ok 22.19.51 # get the ucl file from the recorder_flash.zip and put in root 22.19.59 # put firmware_flash.rock in root to 22.20.10 # ajbrec.ajz as well 22.20.29 # does firmware flash take a .ucl? 22.20.32 # hmm from the last ucl in daily builds? 22.20.38 # nonnoo 22.20.42 # the included ones for now 22.20.49 # we will update later 22.20.52 # you want that too 22.21.13 # theres tons of problems in the original flash 22.21.15 # once the three files (ajbrec, firmware_flash.rock and rockbox.ucl) are in root 22.21.19 # SCOTT 22.21.26 # he will update it later 22.21.31 # it has to do firmware flash first 22.21.39 # and you can't do it with a new version 22.21.41 # let's play it safe 22.21.41 # does that take a ucl? 22.21.46 # i think so 22.21.50 # but im not sure 22.21.53 # let's just wait a bit ok 22.22.00 # then have him read the doc 22.22.06 # it has more disclaimers 22.22.07 # lol 22.22.14 # i dont have any ucl in flash_rec.zip 22.22.20 # ok 22.22.25 # run the firmware flash.rock 22.22.27 # WAIT 22.22.28 # wait 22.22.29 # hang on 22.22.35 # put new ajbrec in root 22.22.37 # right? 22.22.52 # done? 22.23.06 # i got http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash_rec.zip this one 22.23.16 # yes 22.23.16 # copy 3 files of this package to the root directory of your box: 22.23.16 # ajbrec.ajz (the version of Rockbox we're going to use and have in the firmware file) 22.23.16 # 22.23.16 # firmware_flash.rock (the plugin for this job) 22.23.16 # 22.23.17 *** Alert Mode level 1 22.23.17 # firmware_rec.bin or firmware_fm.bin (the complete firmware for your model, with my bootloader and the two images) 22.23.26 # there we go 22.23.29 # scott has it 22.23.45 # ok i got that files in root 22.23.53 # reboot archos 22.23.53 # its 22.23.53 # all in hte doc file 22.23.58 # dur 22.24.18 # reboot your archos triple-z 22.24.52 # then check the debug screen and write down your mask value 22.24.58 # why? 22.25.11 # rebooted 22.25.13 # why? 22.25.21 # do what scott says but i have no idea why 22.25.36 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/flash.html 22.25.50 # just go step by step 22.25.56 # if you have questionsask 22.26.01 # mask value? 22.26.06 # *questions, ask 22.26.13 # in HW info 22.26.21 # right 22.27.22 # 0x0302 22.27.36 # ok 22.28.33 # its write incomptible version when i run firmware_flash.rock 22.29.12 # calm down scoot im helping him 22.29.25 # lol 22.29.36 # that was a close one 22.29.59 # dont flame me dude ] 22.30.09 # what what 22.30.42 Join Josh_ [0] (~Jet8810@adsl-211-224-23.mia.bellsouth.net) 22.33.18 *** Alert Mode OFF 22.34.36 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@p50861AE6.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.35.21 # hey 22.35.23 # ok midknight, you dont get to answer any more questions on flashing 22.35.25 # lol 22.35.33 # not in main chat 22.35.34 # ah 22.35.38 # hey the dude that made the flash boot 22.35.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> somebody's got an issue with it? 22.35.58 # nope 22.36.01 # hes about to flash 22.36.05 # just an F2 away ;) 22.36.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> or an F3? 22.36.40 # f2 was get past the disclaimer 22.36.45 # oh 22.36.45 # lol 22.36.47 # f3 then 22.38.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hes, you're OK? 22.38.28 # after i flash i can go back to normal way? 22.38.46 # you could, but why the hell would you want to? 22.38.51 # lol 22.38.57 # dunno 22.39.02 # just askin 22.39.05 # yea 22.39.12 # just update rockbox with archos firmware ucl 22.39.12 # <[IDC]Dragon> Not Hes, Triple-z is the victim? 22.39.16 # yeah 22.39.16 # lol 22.40.05 # the disclaimer is too scary hehe 22.40.12 # aw 22.40.17 # let me see this scary disclaimer 22.40.35 # where 22.40.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> Triple-z, you have the files for your model (FM or recorder)? 22.40.54 # recorder 22.40.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> That's the only real worry. 22.40.59 # he did all the steps 22.41.13 # yeah i got to F3 22.41.13 # as long as it's for the recorder and the flash_rec.zip... 22.41.49 # <[IDC]Dragon> You've read the instructions, I guess. 22.42.12 # yeah i did 22.42.15 # and i've made sure everythign should be ok so far 22.42.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> midknight2k3, thanks for nanny-ing. 22.42.41 # :D 22.42.50 # im just thinkin maybe ill wait a bit till it be more stable etc 22.42.53 # (he sucks at it) 22.42.54 # :P 22.43.03 # shutup scott 22.43.04 # its stable 22.43.04 # lol 22.43.09 # stable as ever 22.43.10 # just do it 22.43.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> more stable than what? 22.43.14 # do it do it do it 22.43.23 # lol 22.43.25 # you did that to me 22.43.28 # when i flashed mine 22.43.30 # earhurts and bod 22.43.34 # "do it do it!!!" 22.43.42 # and i had that 04 mask 22.43.45 # 504 that is 22.44.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> Kids, are we on the three meter board here? 22.44.32 # how do i update the daily builts after i flash it? where i put the ucl files? 22.44.33 # i was the first FM :-) 22.44.40 # put ucl in root 22.44.44 # and run rockbox_flash.rock 22.44.50 # if it fails ther's no problem 22.44.58 # so this is the only dagerous time 22.45.05 # you have to renamed it to rockbox.ucl the first time 22.45.08 # once you do this there's no more worries 22.45.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> lately, you can just play the ucl. 22.45.19 # yeah 22.45.20 # yeah 22.45.20 # very cool 22.45.23 # getting simpler 22.45.27 # and auto-ucl builds 22.45.35 # thats as simple as it gets 22.45.41 # cool 22.45.42 # easy as rolo 22.46.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> I could maybe skip F1 keypress in that case? 22.46.46 # no 22.46.47 # lol 22.46.55 # whats the charging probs u got there? 22.46.57 # like to have a warning just in case its an accident or anything 22.47.02 # none that i know of 22.47.06 # can the flash package be updated to include a more recent version? 22.47.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> When "playing" an ucl, one button less to press. 22.47.20 # well idc dragon 22.47.27 # fine for me 22.47.29 # i'd like to have to press a button after playing a ucl 22.47.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes, I'm about to update it. 22.47.34 # at least one button extra 22.47.40 # just in case 22.47.43 # its not exactly hard to fix 22.47.52 # <[IDC]Dragon> midknight2k3, currently it's 2 buttons. 22.48.01 # so you make it down to one 22.48.06 # play, f1, f2 22.48.12 # okok 22.48.14 # what i dont like 22.48.25 # is how they always have to be the plugins from the same build 22.48.44 # only if the api version changes 22.49.02 # in other topic, anyone here heard or KiSS DVD Players? 22.49.16 # you're not flashing? 22.49.18 # the band? 22.49.18 # kiss dvd? 22.49.21 # no 22.49.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> Triple-z, still not flashed? 22.49.36 # they play xvid/divx 22.49.45 # nope not yet 22.50.06 # ahh get on with it lol 22.50.10 # it's never going to be safer 22.50.22 # i have heard of theme 22.50.25 # them* 22.50.38 # why did i never notice that xvid is divx backwards? 22.50.41 # im an idiot... 22.50.45 Nick jb|gaming is now known as jorbond (~haha@dhcp024-209-003-214.cinci.rr.com) 22.50.52 # aha 22.50.53 # lol 22.50.59 # lol 22.51.02 # heh 22.51.06 # i wouldnt waste the money on one of those dvd players if it was me 22.51.11 # boo 22.51.17 # well i never replace the ajbrec.ajz after flashing? 22.51.24 # no, do 22.51.25 # you get rid of it 22.51.37 # rockbox will be in flash and it wont need to be loaded 22.51.42 # no! you keep it so you can f1 boot 22.51.53 # well 22.51.55 # why? 22.52.01 # just f1 boot and download a new ajbrec 22.52.03 # much simpler 22.52.20 # in that super unlikely case 22.52.27 # i just run that one guy's program 22.52.37 # why guys 22.52.44 # gets the rocks and ucl and ajbrec 22.52.52 # f1 boot is? 22.53.02 # really 22.53.07 # sigh 22.53.12 # f1+on=archos firmware 22.53.13 # if you flash we can figure it out from there 22.53.17 # no need to plan so far ahead 22.55.47 # http://www.kiss-technology.com/filer/DP-500_eng.pdf <=- looks so good 22.57.19 # junk 22.57.26 # did you flash/are you going to? 22.58.15 # well, u say no recorder got fucked? 22.58.23 # none yet 22.58.29 # one wouldnt run the flash 22.58.44 # or it wouldnt work when trying to flash or something 22.58.49 # but otherwise it's fine i think 22.58.54 # idc dragon would know 22.59.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> One FM was reported dead, the only fatality by now. 22.59.45 # yeah 23.00.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> But I never heared again from that guy, maybe he was payed by Archos to scare us... 23.00.25 # haahahhaha 23.00.28 # wht an idea 23.00.30 # lol 23.00.34 # u know how many rockbox users already flashed? 23.00.39 # many 23.00.48 # but there's no statistics 23.01.02 # <[IDC]Dragon> a few dozen, I'd guess, but have no info. 23.01.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.01.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> most of the "active" people here, I think. 23.01.50 # like me! :) 23.01.59 # can the player be flashed? 23.02.05 # nad i think you for it, it's so much of a relief 23.02.11 # no...t yet 23.02.15 # one of those 23.02.24 # it's not 15 seconds anymore, it's 5 23.02.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> jorbond, you have a player? 23.03.02 # yes he does 23.03.16 # he was also wonderinga bout the rocklatin charset 23.03.29 # yep 23.03.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> jorbond, if you're a developer, feel free to port the flash plugins. 23.04.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> That's all which is missing. 23.04.15 # all the store had was the player, if i would of known the recorder existed i would of bought it lol 23.05.17 # triple z still thinkin about it? 23.06.09 # still yah 23.06.09 # are memory addresses different from recorder to plater 23.09.35 # so far it's been 100% fine exept for that fm recorder guy we never heard from 23.09.47 # if his really died and he really cared he would have responded 23.09.55 # but i wish i could have had that dead machine\ 23.09.58 # :D 23.11.32 # did it! 23.11.38 # did it 23.11.40 # yay! 23.11.43 # did it work? 23.11.50 # now i need to turn it off? 23.11.57 # if it said it was ok 23.11.57 # it say ok 23.12.01 # when t verified 23.12.06 # it should be good then 23.12.20 # and you might have to hold on to get it to boot 23.12.25 # scared ema t first 23.12.49 # SWEET LORD! Workin 23.12.54 # quick boot? 23.13.05 # aha! you did it! yay! woohoo! 23.13.29 # yeah, grat 23.13.32 # great 23.13.37 # tada 23.13.45 # and hold f1 while you press on 23.13.50 # it should go the archos way 23.13.57 # delete AJBREC.ajz 23.14.09 # ill do auto resume and check how fast is it 23.14.17 # Wait 23.14.18 # wait 23.14.23 # delete ajbrec.ajz 23.14.27 # it makes it quicker 23.14.47 # <[IDC]Dragon> Congrats, you should update to the daily build now. 23.14.51 # yeah 23.14.54 # i was going to say 23.14.58 # hmm sec 23.15.00 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 23.15.00 # but you have to tell him how i have to go 23.15.02 # bagder 23.15.13 # i need to f1 boot for deletein the ajz? 23.15.14 # evening 23.15.16 # no 23.15.23 # f1 boot will go to archosf firmware 23.15.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hi Bagder! 23.15.26 # morning 23.15.29 # :D 23.15.40 # bye all 23.15.47 # good luck triple z 23.15.57 # flash new firmware and get rid of ajbrec.ajz 23.16.01 # :D 23.16.03 # so should i delete it from the frimware or from the pc? 23.16.08 # either way 23.16.25 # then dragon can tell you how to update to daily build or whatever 23.16.27 # bye 23.16.31 Quit midknight2k3 ("-=SysReset 2.53=-") 23.16.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> Bagder, I'd like to commit a makefile which does the uclpack, but we need it in the tools then. 23.16.47 # i thought of another feature i want in the plugin system, ability to play mp3 files, if it isnt already there 23.17.14 # b/c then you can have sound effects in games :) 23.17.15 # to update i just need the newest ucl? 23.17.27 # jorbond: it would be easy to allow them to do that, if it isn't already there 23.17.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> Triple-z, yes, you can do that. 23.17.49 # [IDC]Dragon: well, what would the fix do? 23.18.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> Bagder, no fiy, just an extra line in the makefile. 23.18.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> fiy -> fix 23.18.35 # but we can't assume all developers will have uclpack 23.18.53 # or at least I don't think we should 23.18.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> will the make fail then? 23.19.15 # well it depends on how/where your extra line is 23.19.37 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm not shure where the tools content comes from, we could add uclpack. 23.20.29 # the tools are written by us 23.20.31 # all but one I think 23.21.06 # going over to linux to compile some code 23.21.18 # trying to see if i can port the code to player 23.21.22 Quit jorbond () 23.22.06 # [IDC]Dragon: I suggest you make a 'ucl' target in the makefile that builds the ucl file 23.22.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> Bagder, I mean from where they were downloaded, so we could add uclpack. 23.23.14 # its quite a lot of code 23.24.18 # it need to be rockbox.ucl to work? 23.24.30 # its needed to make rockbox.ucl, yes 23.24.46 # but we need gcc too, and we don't include that 23.25.09 # <[IDC]Dragon> binaries are not acceptable? 23.25.23 # binaries are doomed to not work 23.25.30 # and we want to function on multiple platforms 23.25.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> OK. 23.25.49 # I'd rather allow binaries for download from the web site 23.25.59 # after i flash the ucl i dont need it anymore right? 23.26.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> I've added the uclpack like this: 23.26.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> $(OBJDIR)/$(OUTNAME) : $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.bin 23.26.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> $(TOOLSDIR)/uclpack --best --2e $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.bin $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.ucl 23.26.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> $(TOOLSDIR)/scramble $(SCRAMBLE_OPT) $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.bin $(OBJDIR)/$(OUTNAME) 23.26.38 Join Jensing [0] (Jensing@pcp289373pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net) 23.26.57 # [IDC]Dragon: and that won't work for me, I don't have uclpack in my tools dir... 23.27.08 # <[IDC]Dragon> will check if that fails if I move away uclpack... 23.29.10 # once your flashed your never go back =] heh 23.30.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> Bagder, yes it fails. 23.31.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> Even if I put it after the .ajz scrambling, it won't continue with the rocks. 23.31.44 # no failures make it stop 23.31.48 # besides 23.31.57 # reading error messages will make people react 23.32.12 # I suggest a separate ucl target for it 23.32.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm no make guru, can we make that conditional (check for uclpack presence first)? 23.32.27 # so that 'make ucl' builds the ucl file 23.32.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> Brr, I don't like that, we have too many targets already. 23.33.45 # well, then you need to do some shell script magic to see if you can run uclpack and if you can, do it 23.33.53 # within the makefile I mean 23.34.17 # <[IDC]Dragon> That's where the guru part comes in... 23.34.17 # I could volunteer to make that in fact 23.34.55 # let me try... 23.34.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> Yes please, go ahead. 23.35.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> Don't forget to add the ucl to the clean section. 23.35.57 # a clean section? 23.36.07 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 23.36.46 Quit mecraw (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.36.46 NSplit calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 23.36.46 Quit elinenbe (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.36.46 Quit MT (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 23.36.53 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 23.36.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> well, the list of stuff to be wiped away for "make clean" 23.36.53 # ah 23.36.53 # ok 23.37.11 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBDACCF.ipt.aol.com) 23.37.21 NHeal calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 23.37.21 NJoin mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 23.37.34 # hi 23.37.50 # hey track 23.39.02 NJoin MT [0] (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 23.40.52 # hi scot 23.41.37 # uclpack --best -2e $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.bin $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.ucl 23.41.43 # was that the line? 23.41.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> Bagder, somehow the ucl is already in the clean section, with current cvs. 23.42.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> Lemme check.. 23.42.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> $(TOOLSDIR)/uclpack --best --2e $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.bin $(OBJDIR)/rockbox.ucl 23.43.05 # thanks 23.44.42 # hi bag 23.44.48 # hi track 23.44.58 # what is the best web browser 23.45.20 # for linux? :-) 23.45.26 # mozilla? 23.45.26 # no Windows 23.45.37 # me uses mozilla 23.45.42 # but not windows 23.45.45 # Bag could the Archos theoritecally read zip files 23.45.52 # yes 23.45.56 # :-) 23.46.07 # small zip files ;-) 23.46.19 # well what u could do is dump MP3s into zip files to save HD space 23.46.30 # [IDC]Dragon: you wanna try it first or shall I just commit? 23.46.36 # tracktheripper: no 23.46.47 # :-(( 23.46.47 # mp3 files are already compressed 23.46.51 # <[IDC]Dragon> does it work for you in both cases? 23.46.56 # yes 23.47.02 # I have run-time check for it 23.47.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> fire ahead, commit it. 23.47.26 # but I assume that uclpack is in your path 23.47.31 # not in the tools dir 23.47.37 # <[IDC]Dragon> uh, oh 23.48.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> for me, I put it in tools like all the others. 23.48.36 # ok then 23.48.40 # let's do that 23.48.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> you used "which" to check? 23.48.49 # no 23.48.52 # I run it and check for output 23.49.10 # @a=`uclpack -h 2>/dev/null`; 23.49.20 # if test -n "$$a"; then \ 23.49.22 # etc 23.49.34 # <[IDC]Dragon> looks crude. 23.49.43 # hm 23.49.49 # I don't wanna put it in tools 23.49.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> there is to if exist, etc. 23.50.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> no if exist, I mean? 23.50.20 # it does 23.50.21 # Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz 23.50.22 Quit Harlequin (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.50.25 # it exists in the shell make uses 23.51.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> why don't you like it in tools? 23.51.37 # it feels very odd to move a binary into the source tree like that 23.51.48 # a binary that isn't even special made for rockbox 23.52.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> well, but almost. 23.52.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> The other binaries are in that dir, right? 23.52.42 # to be honest, I'm not really happy with that either ;-) 23.52.58 # but they were written for rockbox 23.53.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> Aha. 23.53.10 # we don't have gcc and ld etc in there 23.53.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> Well, do as you please, I'll adjust for it. 23.53.42 # let's start like this anyway 23.55.27 # committed 23.55.50 # hm 23.55.58 # then I think I need to fix the daily build stuff too 23.58.04 Join Harlequin [0] (~SimonB@gromit.eng.eircom.net) 23.58.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> why? 23.58.33 # because I run an extra uclpack in there 23.58.42 # it might not do any harm of course 23.58.46 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237)