--- Log for 06.08.103  Server: niven.freenode.net  Channel: #rockbox
--- Nick: logbot  Version: Dancer V4.16p1  Started: 16 hours and 51 minutes ago

00.00.56 #       <scott666> shake harder?
00.01.21 #       <scott666> gently push it with a non-conductive screwdriver?
00.01.39 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I'd need to pull it.
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00.02.07 #       <Zagor> there is some sort of lock on the battery hatch. once the hatch is open, the battery slides out without effort
00.02.31 #       <Zagor> or do you mean you have the hatch open already?
00.02.53 #       <[IDC]Dragon> tried to slide it with a screwdriver from the side, applied quite some force to it, but it didn't move.
00.03.25 #       <[IDC]Dragon> whith "hatch" you mean the topside cover?
00.03.47 #       <[IDC]Dragon> maybe 7 by 1 cm?
00.03.50 #       <Zagor> yes
00.04.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> yes, that's open.
00.04.10 #       <Zagor> ok
00.04.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> anything locking the battery, you said?
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00.05.06 #       <Zagor> no, i meant the hatch. i can't remember anything about the battery. i only saw him do it once, and wasn't really paying attention
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00.07.46 #       <AciD-> i'm back from cooking [IDC]Dragon, what do u want ?
00.08.50 #       <[IDC]Dragon> AciD-: Oh, long ago. I only wanted to ask which firmware version you have.
00.09.03 #       <AciD-> i just installed the 2.0
00.09.15 #       <AciD-> (discovered the site today)
00.09.15 #       <[IDC]Dragon> No, Archos.
00.09.18 #       <AciD-> ok
00.09.23 #       <AciD-> jb 6000
00.09.29 #       <AciD-> 5.07a
00.10.03 #       <[IDC]Dragon> 5.07a from flash, or from .mod file?
00.10.08 #       <AciD-> mod
00.10.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> which in flash?
00.10.24 #       <AciD-> didn't knew we could flash anything in archos
00.10.25 #       <AciD-> :o
00.10.29 #       <AciD-> hum
00.10.30 #       <AciD-> 5.05
00.10.48 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Aha. Too old to be ineresting, thanks.
00.10.56 #       <AciD-> :o
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00.11.17 #       <AciD-> i bought it one years and alf ago
00.11.20 #       <AciD-> +h
00.12.49 #       <alexandre> I don't understand my motherboard/XP : few minutes ago, my FMR was recognize, now it isn't
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00.21.32 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Grr. I have an FM here from a friend, but it won't start since the battery is too weak to do anything.
00.26.34 #       <AciD-> just plug it then
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01.01.02 #       <BoD[]> youhou
01.02.33 #       <Plugh> hoo-yoo
01.02.50 #       <BoD[]> plugh :)
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02.30.32 #       <keno> I really like the idea of flashing the rockbox, but I just wanna make sure I do it in a stage in which it's stable enough.. (heard of ATA errors and other bugs?)
02.33.50 #       <BoD[]> can't help
02.34.07 #       <keno> np
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02.52.22 #       <Plugh> I'm patient enough to bear the load time. I run up-to-the-minute code, so I don't like risking not having a fallback plan. And I really don't want to build a serial cable
02.53.31 #       <BoD[]> i didn't try to flash it neither
02.53.35 #       <BoD[]> but i will ... one day :)
02.54.24 #       <keno> good arguments that are correct for me as well, but there will be a point in the future where flashing will be reliable enough.. only a question of when
02.54.49 #       <Plugh> I wouldn't mind flashing the version I have now
02.55.02 #       <Plugh> but there's no real point to it
02.58.25 #       <Plugh> rebuilding rockbox with current cvs
02.59.13 #       <Plugh> ride's here. later
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03.26.17 #       <earHurts> hello?
03.27.17 #       <AciD-> finally i got a question :
03.27.41 #       <AciD-> how can u 'play' a .wps located in /.rockbox as player don't show that directory
03.27.43 #       <AciD-> :o
03.28.28 #       <AciD-> ok
03.28.33 #       <AciD-> i scratch this
03.28.35 #       <AciD-> i said nothing
03.28.36 #       <AciD-> :)
03.29.00 #       <earHurts> go to menu - general settings - file
03.29.20 #       <earHurts> set it to display all files
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04.26.30 #       <midknight2k3> earHertz?
04.32.13 #       <earHertz> midk?
04.32.24 #       <midknight2k3> whats with the new name?
04.32.56 #       <earHertz> my old nick was in use from a client disconnect
04.58.24 #       <AciD-> somebody knows in which .c or .h i could find the code about the %pf thing (in wps files) ?
04.58.33 #       <midknight2k3> wps.c?
04.58.42 #       <midknight2k3> whats PF
04.59.19 #       <midknight2k3> whats PF acid?
04.59.42 #       <midknight2k3> oh
05.00.24 #       <AciD-> the code
05.00.34 #       <AciD-> to shows time and progress bar
05.00.36 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.00.39 #       <AciD-> on players
05.00.43 #       <midknight2k3> i just wondered what it stood for
05.00.52 #       <midknight2k3> i checked - you took to long
05.00.53 #       <midknight2k3> :D
05.02.25 #       <AciD-> the pb is i did a global search for 'pf' on the source dir
05.02.39 #       <midknight2k3> acid
05.02.45 #       <AciD-> and there isn't any 'pf' in it :o
05.02.46 #       <midknight2k3> it might be in apps\player
05.02.55 #       <midknight2k3> some file in there
05.03.06 #       <AciD-> i'm currently looking at wps.c
05.03.12 #       <midknight2k3> in apps
05.03.16 #       <midknight2k3> look in apps\player
05.03.40 #       <earHertz> wps_display.c
05.04.15 #       <midknight2k3> earHerts must take over
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06.06.11 #       <jorbond> i have the dump from the player 5.08
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08.02.48 #       <midknight2k3> hello hello hello
08.02.50 #       <midknight2k3> hi
08.02.51 #       <midknight2k3> hi
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08.17.06 #       <Bagder> morning
08.17.14 #       <midknight2k3> night
08.17.16 #       <midknight2k3> :D
08.17.18 #       <Bagder> hehe
08.17.46 #       <midknight2k3> i recall you said you wantd to get the multiresume bookmark patch in rockbox right bagder?
08.17.55 #       <Bagder> yes I do
08.18.07 #       <midknight2k3> i hope you could put an option to have it on or off
08.18.22 #       <midknight2k3> because i tried it today and it was very cool but sometimes it's an unneeded hassle
08.18.29 #       <midknight2k3> sometimes i don't want to resume
08.18.41 #       <hardeep> midknight2k3: there is an option to disable it... see the bookmark settings in the menu
08.18.44 #       <midknight2k3> OR maybe it could automatically make a bookmark when stopping
08.18.50 #       <midknight2k3> oh ok thanks
08.18.51 #       <midknight2k3> lol
08.18.54 #       <midknight2k3> i'll stop now
08.20.43 #       <earHurts> bagder, was it you or zagor who mentioned tortoisecvs?
08.20.44 #       <Bagder> :-)
08.20.49 #       <hardeep> Bagder: btw, ben's last release is compatible with the dynamic playlist code (we disable bookmarks if the playlist has been modified)
08.20.51 #       <Bagder> zagor did
08.21.17 #       <Bagder> hardeep: cool
08.21.41 #       <earHurts> it works rather nicely
08.21.42 #       <Bagder> any other known issue left with it?
08.21.52 #       <hardeep> Bagder: none that I know of
08.22.46 #       <Bagder> then I guess we should aim for commit
08.25.43 #       <midknight2k3> hey hey
08.25.48 #       <midknight2k3> you forget important part
08.25.54 #       <midknight2k3> REDZONE on PEAKMETER
08.27.20 #       <earHurts> let's get the touch screen working first
08.27.29 #       <midknight2k3> no
08.27.31 #       <midknight2k3> redzone
08.27.35 #       <midknight2k3> earhurts can you code it?
08.27.35 #       <Bagder> yeah, and the FM for non-FM units ;-)
08.27.38 #       <midknight2k3> ITS WHAT I WANT
08.28.16 #       <earHurts> I told you before that I'd help you to code it
08.28.26 #       <midknight2k3> help me?
08.28.28 #       <midknight2k3> well
08.28.32 #       <earHurts> but I don't have a big need for it
08.28.50 #       <midknight2k3> many people could use it for recording
08.28.57 #       <midknight2k3> just to know the optimum level
08.29.02 #       <earHurts> I need to figure out how to handle usb notification for a thread
08.29.33 #       <earHurts> how do you figure out what's optimum?
08.29.46 #       <midknight2k3> by using the red zone
08.30.37 #       <earHurts> I sense a circular definition
08.31.46 #       <earHurts> how does the programmer figure out where the zona rosa starts?
08.32.05 #       <midknight2k3> erm
08.32.10 #       <earHurts> erm
08.32.18 #       <midknight2k3> 10 pixels before the right edge of the screen?
08.32.22 #       <midknight2k3> :D
08.32.46 #       <earHurts> and that helps with recording how?
08.33.01 #       <midknight2k3> never mind
08.33.23 #       <earHurts> look, you want to write it, I'll help you
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08.33.39 #       <midknight2k3> i can't
08.34.42 #       <earHurts> didn't you write a speedier scroll?
08.34.53 #       <midknight2k3> not really "write"
08.35.01 #       <midknight2k3> but if that was writing i wrote a bunch of crap
08.35.49 #       <earHurts> so do that for the red zone
08.36.07 #       <midknight2k3> but i modified the scroll
08.36.15 #       <midknight2k3> i can't modify the redzone bacsue it doesn't exist
08.36.50 #       <earHurts> the peak meter exists
08.37.14 #       <earHurts> you just need to invert the video for the last 10 pixels
08.37.37 #       <midknight2k3> and that's simple for someone who knows about 2% of all C code
08.37.38 #       <midknight2k3> ?
08.37.45 #       <earHurts> wherever a pixel is written, don't write a pixel, and vice versa
08.38.27 #       <earHurts> I'd use 2 for loops instead of the single current for loop
08.38.45 #       <midknight2k3> i'd do it if i had a walkthrough or something but me trying to tell the peak meter to invert the last 10 pixels is like youtrying to code a... hypercube
08.39.55 #       <earHurts> a hypercube is just a four dimensional cube
08.40.07 #       <midknight2k3> but a hypercube that really works
08.40.12 #       <midknight2k3> seen in Cube 2
08.40.17 #       <earHurts> so where a cube has squares for sides, a hypercube has squares for sides
08.40.22 #       <midknight2k3> anyhow it was just an exaple
08.41.05 #       <earHurts> take a look at the code, email me your questions
08.41.24 #       <midknight2k3> look at the rockbox code and email you any questions i come up with?
08.42.23 #       <earHurts> yeah
08.42.29 #       <midknight2k3> how about: what do i do?
08.42.51 #       <midknight2k3> i don't understand the code; asking you to help me would be like saying get a copy of the C book and type it up for me
08.43.00 #       <earHurts> look at the peakmeter functions in wps_display.c
08.43.12 #       <midknight2k3> all right
08.48.49 #       <midknight2k3> i see
08.49.03 #       <midknight2k3> i am still basically at a loss
08.49.11 #       <midknight2k3> which is a polite way of saying, help
08.51.06 #       <hardeep> the majority of the peakmeter code is in apps/recorder/peakmeter.c
08.51.18 #       <midknight2k3> i know
08.51.24 #       <midknight2k3> but earhurts said wps-display
08.51.32 #       <midknight2k3> which would it be?
08.51.38 #       <midknight2k3> must be peakmeter.c
08.51.44 #       <midknight2k3> beacuse the recording calls for it too
08.51.47 #       <midknight2k3> not just wps
08.51.53 #       <earHurts> i was wrong
08.52.07 #       <midknight2k3> oho
08.52.09 #       <earHurts> peakmeter
08.52.09 #       <midknight2k3> :)
08.52.39 #       <midknight2k3> i sill dunno
08.53.17 #       <earHurts> look, you care about where it writes to the screen
08.53.24 #       <midknight2k3> sigh
08.53.31 #       <earHurts> so look for calls to lcd_ functions
08.53.41 #       <midknight2k3> and that differs how from .... "peeks_per_draw"? lol
08.54.15 #       <earHurts> i dunno. got to go.
08.54.20 #       <midknight2k3> nononon
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08.54.22 #       <midknight2k3> really?
08.54.25 #       <midknight2k3> fsck
08.54.33 #       <midknight2k3> hardeep help!
08.54.33 #       <midknight2k3> lol
08.55.00 #       <hardeep> midknight2k3: i don't know that code
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10.51.02 #       <PsycoXul> the /wi ze
10.51.05 #       <PsycoXul> bah
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11.47.44 #       <Rensouken> Hey there peeps
11.48.16 #       <Rensouken> Have any of you guyz have had thier Jukebox screen...broken?
11.48.40 #       <Rensouken> if so, how would I fix it, aka, is it possiable to replace it with a better lcd screen?
12.01.30 #       <Rensouken> Well, I got to jet, so, if any of you peeps have the time to think this over I could really use ur suggestions
12.01.48 #       <Rensouken> my e-mail is rensouken@cox.net so drop me a line with your thoughts, thanks
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16.56.08 #       <diddystar5> hey badger
16.56.35 #       <Bagder> hi
16.56.49 #       <diddystar5> could you make the daily tarballs in the bzip2 format please!!!!!
16.56.58 #       <Bagder> why?
16.57.18 #       <diddystar5> im on a 56k and it takes less time to download :)
16.57.36 #       <Bagder> it'll just save a few percent
16.58.01 #       <diddystar5> humm yes but i does take a 1min half for me to download
16.58.31 #       <diddystar5> the laster tarball is 490 kb instead of 600
16.58.40 #       <diddystar5> *in bzip2
16.59.49 #       <Bagder> yeah, but can the windows users deal with bzip2 as easily?
17.00.36 #       <diddystar5> yep     i use 7-zip    it is a one click to decompress bzip2   then another to decompress the tar
17.01.07 #       <diddystar5> and cygwin has the bzip2 decompresser also
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17.10.45 #       <Plugh> gnu tar has bzip2 support as a command line flag
17.11.08 #       <Plugh> -j
17.12.10 #       <diddystar5> cool     thanks Plugh
17.13.32 #       <Plugh> 110k should take somewhere on the order of 20 seconds
17.13.38 #       <Plugh> probably a little less
17.14.17 #       <Plugh> that's the diff between 490 and 600
17.14.54 #       <Plugh> but bzip2 isn't very CPU friendly. Not only does it take longer to compress, but ties up more CPU
17.15.35 #       <Plugh> not saying it's the wrong thing to do, but it does have its own set of issues
17.16.30 #       <diddystar5> takes about 1.5 secs to decompress on a 1ghz p3
17.16.50 #       <Plugh> what about compress?
17.17.22 #       <diddystar5> about 3 sec to tar
17.17.57 #       <diddystar5> and about another 3 to bzip2
17.18.26 #       <Plugh> compared to gzip?
17.19.56 #       <diddystar5> took 7 secs to compress to gzip
17.21.23 #       <diddystar5> humm cygwin gzip difd it in 2 secs...
17.21.27 #       <diddystar5> *did it
17.23.46 #       <Plugh> cygwin's always slower for me :)
17.24.02 #       <diddystar5> but!   7-zip compresses to 580 kb    cygwin did it at 614 kb
17.26.05 #       <Plugh> bzip2 -9
17.27.53 #       <diddystar5> still didn't beat 7-zip  made is a 603 kb file
17.28.21 #       <Plugh> bzip2 uncompresses the 7-zip file?
17.28.26 #       <MT> winrar copes with bz2
17.28.28 #       <MT> also
17.29.12 #       <diddystar5> i never had to work with RAR
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17.31.19 #       <diddystar5> humm have to go        your wormlet patch is cool MT!
17.31.21 #       <diddystar5> bye
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18.01.47 #       <b1_> how do I reply to threads in the rockbox newsgroup?
18.02.34 #       <MT> subscribe to the mailing lsit and then reply to the messages you receive
18.02.42 #       <MT> s/si/is/
18.03.36 #       <b1_> done both. i started a thread a some have answered - then I go to reply but it's hasn't registered yet? dunno
18.04.03 #       <MT> on the web version?
18.04.09 #       <MT> it doesnt update immediately
18.04.35 #       <hardeep> b1_: the e-mail address you reply with has to be the same as the one you subscribed with
18.05.09 #       <b1_> it was - do I reply to the person who answered or to the rockbox web address?
18.05.28 #       <b1_> rockbox@cool.haxx.se
18.05.32 #       <hardeep> b1_: to the rockbox address if you want it to go to the mailing list
18.06.23 #       <b1_> but if I reply to that address how does it know to slot the answer under the topic I started?
18.07.30 #       <b1_> Also, Hardeep: are you doing something special to put my name in front of your replies (b1_:) or just typing it manually - new to irc?
18.10.42 #       <hardeep> b1_: i'm not all that familiar with it but it's probably put under the correct thread based on mail header information
18.11.31 #       <hardeep> b1_: i enter the name manually for the most part, some irc clients provide convenience functions for doing it
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18.14.14 #       <b1_> perhaps I should try replying to their address? Maybe there's some delay or something - just doesn't seem to be registering?
18.17.10 #       <hardeep> b1_: registering where?
18.18.34 #       <b1_> ah - there we go; it registered.
18.18.54 #       <b1_> sorry, it registered on the newsgroup - it was just a delay of some kind
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18.19.17 #       <hardeep> b1_: newsgroup via the gmane site?
18.20.23 #       <b1_> yeah
18.21.40 #       <hardeep> b1_: ah.  the rockbox guys don't have any control over that, not sure how/when it gets updated. You can take a look at http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/ to see if your e-mail was received
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18.21.52 #       <b1_> Thx MT, you were right (missed your answer there
18.22.21 #       <b1_> thx hardeep - will do
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19.05.41 #       <hardeep> heya Zagor
19.05.47 #       <Zagor> hi
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19.18.17 #       <Zagor> i think we have a memory corruption bug somewhere, that overwrites global_settings.volume_type and battery_type. they sometimes change for me, for no good reason.
19.32.20 #       <hardeep> Zagor: i've seen a couple of reports where max files in dir / in playlist have also been reset to 0
19.34.11 #       <Zagor> right
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19.54.29 #       <midknight2k3> morning
19.54.54 #       <Zagor> evening :)
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20.08.13 #       <Plugh> greets
20.08.37 #       <midknight2k3> hi
20.09.38 #       <Plugh> anyone know where to get extra USB cables for the FM 20?
20.09.46 #       <midknight2k3> not i
20.09.53 #       <midknight2k3> never seen em around
20.10.03 #       <midknight2k3> but hang on a sec i have an idea that might work for you
20.10.57 #       <Plugh> oh hell
20.11.03 #       <Plugh> I found it on archos.com
20.11.05 #       <Plugh> 30 bucks
20.11.11 #       <midknight2k3> 30 bucks?
20.11.15 #       <midknight2k3> fora  usb cable?
20.11.28 #       <Plugh> USB Cable (Mini B / A) for JBM, JB FM Recorder & ONDIO 
20.11.28 #       <Plugh>   For Jukebox Multimedia 10 & 20, JB FM Recorder 20, ONDIO, AV100 & AV300 series
20.11.31 #       <Plugh> USB 1.1 & USB 2.0 (Mini B / A) cable . Replacement cable for Jukebox Multimedia 10 & 20, Jukebox FM Recorder 20 & ONDIO  
20.11.57 #       <Plugh> $29.99
20.12.47 #       <midknight2k3> wait
20.12.47 #       <midknight2k3> i got it hang one more sec
20.13.32 #       <midknight2k3> http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?ref=CJ&product_code=294665&pfp=BROWSE
20.14.06 #       <midknight2k3> cheapest one i can find there but i was really looking for something different
20.15.03 #       <Plugh> you're sure Archos uses a 5 pin mini B?
20.15.21 #       <midknight2k3> <Plugh> USB Cable (Mini B / A) for JBM, JB FM Recorder & ONDIO
20.15.33 #       <midknight2k3> i can check when i get home
20.16.32 #       <Plugh> okay
20.16.36 #       <Plugh> it's a standard
20.16.42 #       <Plugh> found the info on usb.org
20.16.49 #       <Plugh> http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/ecn1.pdf
20.16.50 #       <midknight2k3> standard what
20.17.24 #       <Plugh> USB mini-B is a standard connector style that conforms with the USB spec
20.17.33 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
20.17.35 #       <midknight2k3> yeah yeah
20.18.58 #       <midknight2k3> it seems to be at all "retail" stores - best buy, circuit city and compusa
20.19.33 #       <Plugh> not Fry's :(
20.20.18 #       <Plugh> 6' is kinda long. Doesn't fit in the pocket on the neoprene case that came with the unit
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20.22.15 #       <midknight2k3> really?
20.22.15 #       <midknight2k3> hang on i find shorter one
20.22.15 #       <midknight2k3> oh
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20.22.15 #       <midknight2k3> they're all the same
20.22.27 #       <midknight2k3> err
20.22.29 #       <midknight2k3> plugh
20.22.30 #       <midknight2k3> http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3365492
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20.26.00 #       <Plugh> I could live with 6'
20.26.23 #       <Plugh> what I really want is a cable for home, one for work, and possibly one for my laptop bag
20.28.06 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
20.28.06 #       <midknight2k3> OR you could maybe get a A/a cable and get an a/MiniB adapter
20.28.06 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
20.28.06 #       <midknight2k3> archos is great for transferring files
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20.52.13 #       <Herman> hi, can somebody help me please
20.52.41 #       <Herman> In the rockbox manual, it says when installing the firmware
20.52.54 #       <Herman> you can save your old firmware version
20.53.05 #       <Herman> by   changing its name
20.53.19 #       <Herman> but....i don't find the files on the root?
20.54.17 #       <Plugh> odd. It was in mine
20.54.25 #       <Plugh> download it from archos.com
20.54.43 #       <Herman> but how can it work without it?
20.54.54 #       <Plugh> it's flashed in
20.55.00 #       <Herman> oh 
20.55.06 #       <Plugh> you can do the same with the Archos fw
20.56.01 #       <Herman> ok, i'm going to give it a try installing the rockbox firmware
20.56.10 #       <Herman> i hope i cannot damage anything
20.56.11 #       <Plugh> enjoy! I know I do
20.56.18 #       <Plugh> not much to damage, really
20.56.36 #       <Herman> ok thanks
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21.13.39 #       <midknight2k3> Zagor did you hear my "favorites" idea?
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21.16.39 #       <Newbie> Hi, small question...i loaded my archos recorder in my car using a simple connection...can this be dangerous?
21.17.07 #       <Plugh> I use mine in my car
21.17.09 #       <midknight2k3> loaded it?
21.17.16 #       <Newbie> yes it did
21.17.28 #       <midknight2k3> i do not understand
21.17.36 #       <midknight2k3> you mean played it in your car?
21.17.54 #       <Newbie> no , i just loaded the batteries.
21.18.10 #       <midknight2k3> oh you charged it?
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21.18.24 #       <Newbie> oh yes sorry...i'm not native english
21.18.39 #       <midknight2k3> with a car adapter then?
21.18.45 #       <midknight2k3> that's fine i do it alot
21.18.46 #       <Newbie> yes with a car adapter
21.18.55 #       <midknight2k3> set it to 6v if you can
21.19.05 #       <midknight2k3> just because mine on 4.5V was too little power
21.19.05 #       <Newbie> oh good i'll do that
21.19.14 #       <midknight2k3> or higher if possible
21.19.25 #       <midknight2k3> 6v is good
21.19.40 #       <Newbie> well...the adapter that argos sells is 12 V - 1.2 A
21.19.52 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
21.20.03 #       <midknight2k3> so the car adapter should be at least 6V
21.20.14 #       <midknight2k3> at 6V it's close to the archos charger's output
21.20.23 #       <midknight2k3> but if you can get it to be 10v or soemthing that's great
21.21.01 #       <Newbie> oh in my car its 12V
21.21.05 #       <Plugh> there's a regulator that takes it down to the correct internal voltage
21.21.17 #       <midknight2k3> 12v in car?
21.21.20 #       <midknight2k3> excellent
21.21.22 #       <Plugh> but if the unit is getting too warm, cut it back
21.21.23 #       <Newbie> yes
21.21.27 #       <Plugh> car is 13.8v
21.21.29 #       <Newbie> ok
21.21.30 #       <Plugh> generally
21.21.31 #       <midknight2k3> it's a very good thing to do charge in your car
21.21.51 #       <midknight2k3> but yeah take caution
21.21.54 #       <midknight2k3> it should be ok
21.21.58 #       <Newbie> thanks
21.22.05 #       <midknight2k3> no problem
21.22.06 #       <Plugh> I just plugged my wall adapter into a cheapo inverter
21.24.00 #       <Newbie> Thanks all of you, bye
21.24.14 #       <midknight2k3> bye
21.24.21 #       <Plugh> seeya
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21.39.40 #       <midknight2k3> Zagor isn't there a feature that checks if you have a new ajbrec after unplugging from USB and prompts you to reboot to it/
21.40.26 #       <Zagor> yes it is
21.40.30 #       <Zagor> there is
21.40.41 #       <midknight2k3> it never seemed to work for me.. odd
21.41.07 #       <midknight2k3> did you still want screenshots of the plugins from the simulator?
21.41.22 #       <Zagor> yeah, that would be good. png files preferrably
21.42.38 #       <midknight2k3> the player ones as well right?
21.45.27 #       <Zagor> yes
21.45.37 #       <midknight2k3> am doing
21.45.44 #       <midknight2k3> i might as well size them to the current ones size
21.45.57 #       <midknight2k3> 240x136
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21.49.50 #       <Guest> help
21.49.52 #       <Guest> helo :)
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21.50.05 #       <midknight2k3> um
21.50.08 #       <midknight2k3> ?
21.50.09 #       <midknight2k3> lol
21.50.23 #       <Plugh> I guess he drowned
21.51.48 #       <midknight2k3> photshop can't even do it right
21.51.59 #       <midknight2k3> paint to the rescue! lol
21.52.33 #       <Zagor> midknight2k3: isn't the win32 simulator still buggy in the graphics?
21.52.43 #       <midknight2k3> looks alright to me
21.52.50 #       <midknight2k3> looks like a real recorder
21.53.12 #       <Zagor> ok, good
21.53.37 #       <midknight2k3> oh well i guess theres a couple minor things a little different then normal but it's mainly ok
21.55.18 #       <Plugh> 3690285
21.55.19 #       <Plugh>    Hitachi (IBM) 60GB Travelstar 80GN 08K0634, UATA100, 4200RPM, 12ms, 2MB, 3YR, 9.5mm - Bare Hard Drive  
21.55.27 #       <Plugh> $199.99
21.55.33 #       <Plugh> mmmm
21.55.36 #       <midknight2k3> lol
21.55.38 #       <midknight2k3> yes
21.55.40 #       <midknight2k3> very nice
21.56.06 #       <Plugh> 80gig for $100 more
21.59.57 #       <Zagor> midknight2k3: well those "minor bugs" are not very nice in screenshots..
22.00.08 #       <midknight2k3> hang on
22.00.15 #       <midknight2k3> i'll check again
22.00.48 #       <midknight2k3> i just don't undersatnd this
22.02.18 #       <Plugh> ooh! 40gig is $149 and comes with a free 2.5" USB 2.0 enclosure
22.02.34 #       <midknight2k3> ooh!
22.02.36 #       <midknight2k3> :)
22.02.48 #       <Plugh> http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3715096/
22.03.19 #       <Plugh> tempting...
22.03.22 #       <midknight2k3> are you going to upgrade or soemthing?
22.03.38 #       <Plugh> I intend to. Just trying to decide what to upgrade to
22.03.55 #       <Plugh> I could up my 20 to 40 and put the 20 in the enclosure for moving files around
22.04.03 #       <midknight2k3> lol
22.05.32 #       <Plugh> nothing like a pocket full of drive storage space
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22.38.32 #       <Plugh> *yawn*
22.38.43 #       <googoogaigai> sigh
22.38.50 #       <googoogaigai> wait a sec
22.38.54 #       <googoogaigai> am i googoogaigai?
22.39.05 #       <Plugh> I see you as gaigaigoogoo
22.39.16 #       <Plugh> but that just may be my lysdexia
22.39.33 Nick    googoogaigai is now known as midknight2k32 (WinNT@12-229-204-15.client.attbi.com)
22.43.10 #       <Plugh> apparantly, I'm getting a new computer at work. 3.06GHz P4 with 1gig RAM and a DVD/CD-RW
22.43.26 #       <midknight2k32> what? you lucky
22.43.55 #       <Plugh> I didn't even really ask for it
22.43.58 #       <midknight2k32> windows is the greatest you know
22.44.12 #       <midknight2k32> can you run "lee nooks" on a 3gig P4?
22.44.34 #       <Plugh> I could
22.44.45 #       <midknight2k32> fat cahnce
22.44.59 #       <Plugh> what I'm gonna do is rotate my machines out
22.45.13 #       <midknight2k32> ?
22.45.20 #       <midknight2k32> take the 3 gig home
22.45.21 #       <midknight2k32> lol
22.45.21 #       <Plugh> my current Windows box is gonna get my Linux drive
22.45.26 #       <midknight2k32> oh
22.45.33 #       <Plugh> the new box will be Windows
22.45.46 #       <Plugh> and the old Linux box is gonna become a doorstop
22.45.55 #       <midknight2k32> i want the old linux box!
22.46.06 #       <Plugh> no, you don't
22.46.11 #       <midknight2k32> why dont i?
22.46.34 #       <Plugh> P2 233, 128 RAM
22.46.42 #       <midknight2k32> fun to break
22.46.44 #       <midknight2k32> :D
22.47.03 #       <midknight2k32> is there a hard drive in it?
22.47.18 #       <Plugh> yeah. 7gig
22.47.31 #       <midknight2k32> i want it badly
22.47.57 #       <Plugh> I wouldn't wish it on you
22.48.14 #       <midknight2k32> oh well
22.48.19 #       <midknight2k32> i still wish it wqas mine
22.48.27 #       <midknight2k32> i could use it
22.48.47 #       <Plugh> it would cost more to ship it than it's worth
22.49.08 #       <midknight2k32> but it's worth more than shipping because of two things:
22.49.09 #       <midknight2k32> gravity
22.49.11 #       <midknight2k32> and the roof
22.49.33 #       <Plugh> upgrade through defenestration?
22.49.46 #       <midknight2k32> right on first try!
22.50.29 #       <Plugh> Makes one wonder if "defenestration" is a computer term
22.50.36 #       <midknight2k32> yes
22.50.37 #       <midknight2k32> see
22.50.39 #       <midknight2k32> look
22.50.44 #       <midknight2k32> de·fen·es·tra·tion 
22.50.49 #       <midknight2k32> 5. The act of completely removing Micro$oft Windows from a
22.50.49 #       <midknight2k32> PC in favor of a better OS (typically Linux).
22.50.55 #       <Plugh> haha!
22.50.56 #       <midknight2k32> :)
22.51.01 #       <Plugh> awesome
22.51.25 #       <midknight2k32> hey
22.51.28 #       <midknight2k32> thats not true
22.51.37 #       <midknight2k32> i don't trust dictionary.com any.. more
22.51.59 #       <midknight2k32> anyhow i still want it
22.52.06 #       <Plugh> From Jargon File (4.3.0, 30 APR 2001) [jargon]:
22.52.06 #       <Plugh>   defenestration n. [mythically from a traditional Czech assasination
22.52.06 #       <Plugh>      method, via SF fandom] 1. Proper karmic retribution for an incorrigible
22.52.06 DBUG    Enqueued KICK Plugh
22.52.06 #       <Plugh>      punster. "Oh, ghod, that was _awful_!" "Quick! Defenestrate him!" 2. The
22.52.06 #       <Plugh>      act of exiting a window system in order to get better response time from
22.52.08 #       <Plugh>      a full-screen program. This comes from the dictionary meaning of
22.52.11 #       <Plugh>      `defenestrate', which is to throw something out a window. 3. The act of
22.52.13 #       <Plugh>      discarding something under the assumption that it will improve matters.
22.52.16 #       <Plugh>      "I don't have any disk space left." "Well, why don't you defenestrate
22.52.18 #       <midknight2k32> i know
22.52.18 #       <Plugh>      that 100 megs worth of old core dumps?" 4. Under a GUI, the act of
22.52.21 #       <Plugh>      dragging something out of a window (onto the screen). "Next,
22.52.23 #       <Plugh>      defenestrate the MugWump icon." 5. The act of completely removing
22.52.26 #       <Plugh>      Micro$oft Windows from a PC in favor of a better OS (typically Linux).
22.52.28 #       <Plugh> sorry for the flood
22.52.37 #       <midknight2k32> i hate them guys
22.52.38 #       <midknight2k32> lol
22.53.09 Ctcp    Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 2 hours and 29 minutes at the last flood
22.53.09 #       * Plugh cuddles with dict.org and dict(1)
22.54.06 #       <Plugh> anyone alive who's into archos audio books?
22.54.24 #       <midknight2k32> archos audio books?
22.54.41 #       <Plugh> listening to audio books on the archos
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22.54.48 #       <midknight2k32> finally
22.54.49 #       <midknight2k32> lol
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22.55.14 #       <midknight2k3> right now i am putting up a defenastrashun video for your pleasure
22.57.57 #       <midknight2k3> there we are
22.57.59 #       <midknight2k3> http://uploadingmisc.tripod.com/defenastrashin.mpg
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22.59.50 #       <Plugh> that rules
23.00.09 #       <midknight2k3> it is of course (C) rickandrak.com
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23.03.27 #       <midknight2k3> my other favorite would be http://sky.prohosting.com/ricknrak/truckstoptv.wmv
23.04.56 #       <Plugh> there's a good one with a fax machine
23.05.08 #       <midknight2k3> what where
23.05.10 #       <Plugh> oh, nm... that's a movie
23.05.16 #       <midknight2k3> huh
23.05.17 #       <midknight2k3> what
23.05.26 #       <Plugh> did you see Office Space?
23.05.33 #       <midknight2k3> oh yeah
23.05.35 #       <midknight2k3> i didnt see it no
23.05.42 #       <midknight2k3> but i saw some recreations
23.05.42 #       <midknight2k3> lol
23.05.47 #       <Plugh> ah. Watch it
23.05.56 #       <midknight2k3> ok i will
23.06.03 #       <midknight2k3> tomorrow
23.06.07 #       <Plugh> there's also a clip of a guy who gets pissed off at his computer and kicks it to the hallway
23.08.09 #       <midknight2k3> whats that movie about then
23.08.21 #       <midknight2k3> i heard of it lots of places but the main idea seems to be nonexistant
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23.10.24 #       <Plugh> a couple weeks in the life of some San Jose area dotcommers
23.12.49 #       <midknight2k3> oh gross
23.12.56 #       <midknight2k3> did you ever hear of clubjackass?
23.13.23 #       <Plugh> I tried watching jackass style stuff
23.13.32 #       <Plugh> but couldn't get into it
23.13.40 #       <midknight2k3> http://www.wegotsclass.com/index.php?body=clips
23.13.46 #       <midknight2k3> the top one
23.13.50 #       <midknight2k3> full body floss
23.13.52 #       <midknight2k3> ick
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23.18.15 #       <Plugh> that guy has issues
23.18.23 #       <midknight2k3> earhurts
23.18.25 #       <midknight2k3> left on me
23.18.27 #       <midknight2k3> and i was lost
23.18.29 #       <midknight2k3> :(
23.18.29 #       <earHurts> who, me?
23.18.36 #       <midknight2k3> no
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23.29.33 #       <midknight2k3> so earhurts can you help me?
23.32.45 #       <Plugh> midknight2k3: thanks for reminding me why I don't watch TV anymore
23.32.55 #       <midknight2k3> lol
23.38.13 #       <Plugh> I haven't watched cable or broadcast TV since last November, when I went to my brother's in-laws for his wedding, back in November
23.38.28 #       <Plugh> I watched half of an Iron Chef show
23.38.29 #       <Plugh> :)
23.38.35 #       <midknight2k3> lol
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23.43.18 #       <midknight2k3> scott
23.43.42 #       <Plugh> hewwo
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23.46.30 #       <Plugh> hiya Bag
23.46.42 #       <midknight2k3> oh hey bagder
23.46.48 #       <Bagder> evening
23.47.39 #       <midknight2k3> afternoon
23.49.46 #       <Plugh> morning
23.49.57 #       <midknight2k3> after-nooon!!
23.50.09 #       <Plugh> it's morning when you wake up
23.50.15 #       <Plugh> and I'm still waking up
23.50.19 #       <midknight2k3> its afternoon
23.51.09 #       <Plugh> okay, so I've been waking up for 6 hours...