--- Log for 11.08.103 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 5 days and 17 hours ago 00.37.14 Quit MalphAWs ("Because") 00.43.39 Join Malphas__ [0] (~s@dyn-213-36-215-15.ppp.tiscali.fr) 00.57.34 Quit Guest (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01.03.57 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr) 01.04.11 # hi! 01.04.32 Quit top_bloke (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 01.06.06 Quit k3no (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01.12.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.32.18 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACB96A2F.ipt.aol.com) 01.32.32 # hi 01.34.55 Quit tracktheripper (Client Quit) 02.06.39 Join doctorsmith [0] (fiftyfour@cs24160101-217.houston.rr.com) 02.06.47 # Hi all! 02.07.25 # hi 02.09.03 # how are you? 02.10.37 # i'm fine 02.10.39 # you? 02.10.50 # great 02.11.11 # back on the rockboxx train after my previos one died and i gave my nomad to my mom 02.11.33 # :)) 02.11.48 # what is rockbox missing ? 02.11.52 # me? 02.11.59 # I'd say nothing.. 02.12.07 # well 02.12.17 # maybe some more games and demo's, but for me if it plays mp3s nicely then i'm happy 02.12.25 # it can't be perfect right ? 02.12.26 # i love that oscilograph.. and i can't spell either 02.12.31 # nothing's ever perfect 02.12.37 # but rockboxx sure is getting closer! :D 02.13.32 # i think it misses some "database" like the ipods 02.13.43 # database? 02.13.51 # i've never had an iPod so your going to have to explain it to me 02.14.14 # you know, so you can browse files through artists, genres, albums, etc... any id3 info really 02.14.40 # oh like on a Creative Nomad? 02.14.48 # like the "media library" of the new winamps, or windows media player 02.14.58 # well probably :) i never used a creative nomad 02.15.08 # your lucky 02.15.20 # ahah :)) really ? that bad ? 02.15.38 # i cant even begin how much i hated it 02.15.50 # i only got it because I was in a rush, i will never rush my self EVER agian 02.16.03 # why is it so bad 02.16.16 # The main points are lack of decent PC based software... 02.16.23 # archos, plug it in and bam.. new drive letter 02.16.29 # its a harddrive almost.. 02.16.48 # creative nomad jukebox 2? noooo.. thats only in the newest version of their file manager, but you can only add files, not delete! 02.16.53 # it's not the same with the nomad ? you can't use it to store data ? 02.16.55 # and half the time it wouldn't transfer 02.17.00 # you can store data, but its hard 02.17.05 # too confusing for me, i'm stupid 02.17.05 # arg 02.17.05 # Haha 02.17.17 Join k3no [0] (trilluser@80.178.32.8.forward.012.net.il) 02.17.21 # :)) 02.17.40 # i had to use WMP9 to transfer songs to my nomad 02.17.42 # that was hell 02.17.50 # it would convert all my songs THAN copy them.. grr i hated it 02.18.05 # with my archos's i just plug it in and drag and drop 02.18.05 # convert to what format ? 02.18.10 # bam done easy as pie 02.18.12 # first .wma 02.18.20 # but i got the cyberlink mp3 encoder plugin 02.18.27 # so now WMP9 encodes in .mp3 02.18.27 # beurk: ) 02.18.44 # but i can't really select any decent bitrates, only 128 and then jumps to 192.. no 320.. :( 02.18.54 # beurk? 02.19.47 # means 02.19.50 # i puke :) 02.19.54 # OHHH 02.19.55 # Laughing Out Loud 02.20.03 # :) 02.21.47 # my next mp3 player will probably be an ipode 02.21.49 # ipod 02.22.02 # i'd love one but they ar $$$ and no rockboxx for it :D 02.22.24 # true, very true :) 02.23.04 Quit mbr (Remote closed the connection) 02.23.36 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 02.25.44 Quit Malphas__ ("Because") 02.34.20 Quit doctorsmith ("I'm using [54-2k¹] 2.0 Website: http://www.54online.net/script") 02.59.58 Join lilo [0] (levin@lilo.staff.freenode) 03.00.01 # * lilo looks in 03.00.12 # hiya 03.00.17 # hi Plugh 03.00.22 # has anyone seen Hes lately? 03.00.28 # newp 03.00.34 # ah, hhmm 03.00.39 # thanks 03.00.45 Part lilo ("* lilo waves") 03.12.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.13.52 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection) 03.15.40 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-231-237.res.east.verizon.net) 03.16.03 # anyone here? 03.31.19 Quit Galik ("Client exiting") 03.54.48 Join thu [0] (~thu@h24-87-64-169.vc.shawcable.net) 04.45.12 Join k3no__ [0] (trilluser@80.178.32.8.forward.012.net.il) 04.45.12 Quit k3no (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 04.50.17 # yup 05.00.41 Quit BoD[] ("al lala") 05.12.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.31.54 # dear god 05.32.14 # is the entire dev team on holiday? 05.32.54 # wow, didn't know god used rockbox 05.33.22 # you think he'd use the /archos/ firmware?? 05.33.50 # I don't suppose you saw my abject plea on the list? 05.34.36 # i don't recall seeing it 05.35.07 # hmm. perhaps you'll have an answer then. 05.35.08 Join Baka^Ni [0] (~george@81-6-220-248.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk) 05.35.57 Part equip2rip ("Client Exiting") 05.35.57 Quit Baka^Ni (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.36.09 # I'm trying to creat a file in a seperate thread, and it hangs on the creat, with the red led continuously on 05.36.50 # hmmm, are you sure it's in the creat? 05.37.07 # If I don't do file i/o, the box functions normally 05.37.36 # or at least I assume; without the io I can't tell what the thread is doing 05.38.03 # you can try "splash"ing messages to see where you are 05.38.49 # good idea. but the file i/o is the first thing it does, after sleeping 60 * HZ 05.39.30 # is there anything special I need to do to "prepare" a thread to do file i/o? 05.39.36 # earHurts: nope 05.40.03 # earHurts: can you show more of your code? 05.40.17 # do I need to explicity create a queue? Becuase I'm not. 05.40.20 # earHurts: it's probably not the creat() that's causing it 05.40.29 # earHurts: create a queue for what? 05.40.36 # the minimal code that fails is: 05.40.45 # a queue for the thread. 05.41.04 # you only need a queue of you're planning on passing messages to the thread 05.41.10 # s /of/if 05.41.26 Quit AciD (Remote closed the connection) 05.41.38 # and does file i/o need to pass messages? or the underlying ata code? 05.41.45 # no 05.42.30 # code: void mythread( void ) { 05.42.38 # int fd ; 05.42.47 # bool ok ; 05.43.45 # ok = ( fd = creat( "foo", O_WRONLY ) ) != -1 ; 05.44.02 # if( ok ) close( fd ) ; 05.44.10 # } 05.44.40 # that creat() will always fail, pathnames need to be absolute 05.45.21 # ok, it's actually creat( "/p.log" .... 05.45.24 # also, not sure what happens when threads exit 05.45.44 # do like a while (1) at the end or something 05.45.45 # when the name is bad, I don't get the hanging red led 05.47.35 # if that's all the code is, looks okay to me 05.47.41 # what header is splash in? 05.47.45 # dunno what could be wrong... you'll have to debug some 05.48.05 # screens.h 05.48.08 # re: splash() 05.48.34 # ok, thanks, lemme try without i/o but with splash 05.49.00 # earHurts: do you do any i/o besides the creat() ? 05.49.32 # not in the miminal failure version 05.49.38 # yes in the real thing 06.00.08 # is splash async? 06.00.08 Quit k3no__ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.00.45 # earHurts: well, it updates the screen so if something updates after it then it'll disappear 06.01.04 # earHurts: but if you pass in 0 as timeout, it won't block 06.01.35 # ah, well the thread works with splash instead of file i/o 06.01.41 # good suggestion 06.02.01 # earHurts: i was recommending the splash to figure out _where_ it was failing 06.02.15 # print a splash before the creat, another one after and see how far you get 06.02.16 # etc. 06.02.55 # yeah, working on it 06.07.59 # earHurts: you have the syntax of your call wrong 06.09.11 # ok = ( fd = creat( "foo", S_IRWXU ) ) != -1 ; 06.09.23 # second argument of creat is mode, not flags 06.09.34 # second argument is ignored by rockbox 06.09.54 # blah blah 06.09.57 # for creat the flags are assumed to be O_CREAT|O_WRONLY|O_TRUNC 06.10.11 # however, i do notice a problem in that call... the return value for an error is not always -1 06.10.22 # it's some value < 0 06.10.23 # is this running on rockbox or sim? 06.10.32 # oh, really? 06.10.37 # sim does care 06.10.47 # I though posix returned -1 on error 06.11.08 # anyway, the last splash comes before the call to creat 06.11.15 # earHurts: well rockbox doesn't 06.11.19 # and then the red led stays on 06.11.51 # earHurts: you have a splash after the creat but before the close? 06.12.15 # yeah 06.12.33 # what args to creat do you suggest as best? 06.12.35 # earHurts: can you do any other file i/o... like write a config file? 06.12.47 # earHurts: for rockbox the args don't matter as they are ignore 06.12.59 # haven't tried writing a config 06.13.05 # if you're using sim then you might need to change them 06.13.21 # so just creat( "/foo" ) ; 06.13.35 # creat("foo", 0); or somesuch 06.14.02 # ok 06.16.11 # oh crap 06.16.42 # open modifies via pointer to const 06.16.57 # evil 06.27.07 # ok, loos like the hangup is at fat_create_file 06.31.32 # ok, after adding the debug splashes, it hangs after succesful creation 07.12.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.14.00 # anyone here? 07.24.05 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@dhcp101.contactor.se) 08.01.41 Quit mecraw (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08.14.55 # anyone here? 08.18.24 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 08.20.42 # bagder, how nice of you to drop by just as I have a question 08.21.50 # * Bagder stands ready to reply 08.22.13 # the config file auto increments file names; is there a function that will do this for arbitrary file names? 08.22.28 # I don't think so 08.22.42 # that's annoying 08.22.49 # yeps 08.22.51 # we should make one 08.23.11 # yeah, well, I,ll go ahead and do so then 08.23.45 # btw, the open function modifies strings pointed at by const char* 08.25.22 # also, you and zagor said that threads must watch for usb connection, or risk waiting until the thread wakes for usb to start? 08.27.32 Nick dw|gone is now known as dwihno (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 08.48.46 # earhurts: was 20 * DEFAULT the minimum stack size that worked for you? 08.49.10 # yeah 08.49.12 # it does seem a bit excessive 08.49.28 # default is 1K 08.49.32 # definitely looks like the default of 1024 is insufficient but 20k is a little much 08.49.49 # 10 * didn't work, but by that time I was splashing throughout file.c and fat.c 08.50.01 # defualt is 400 bytes 08.50.06 # 0x400 08.50.07 # i see a couple of functions that create a buffer of 512 in the create path, 08.50.08 # = 1024 08.50.52 # I'll be sizing down as I can 08.51.06 # not that it really matters in this case 08.51.23 # the entire thread is just to do some testing 08.51.33 # looks like the main thread has a stack space of 8960 bytes 08.51.48 # there's a debug view of the stack space used, isn't it? 08.52.00 # in percent, yes 08.52.01 # Bagder: it only gives a % 08.52.07 # ah, right 08.52.41 # in any case, it's working. 08.52.44 # finally! 08.52.56 # * earHurts grumbles 08.53.44 # earHurts: if you do want to test the stack thing a bit more, you can make a call to thread_stack_usage() down the call stack 08.54.16 Join k3no [0] (trilluser@80.178.40.66.forward.012.net.il) 08.54.24 # I think bagder nailed it: 512 byte buffers 08.54.30 Quit k3no (Client Quit) 08.54.57 # earHurts: yeah, but there isn't 40 of them... it's the 20k that's worrisome 08.54.58 Join k3no__ [0] (trilluser@80.178.40.66.forward.012.net.il) 08.56.23 # again def size is 400 08.56.34 # so it's < 8K 08.56.37 # 0x400 08.56.39 # earHurts: 0x400 = 1024 bytes 08.56.44 # 0x400 * 20 = 20K 08.56.56 # sorry, didn't read closely 08.57.18 # ok, what value should I try? 08.57.39 # when you use 20 *, check the percentage in the debug view 08.57.59 # could offer a hint 08.57.59 Quit adi|home ("Damn flying monkies") 09.00.04 # ouch re: bug that was just reported 09.00.35 # well, only if I catch it when it's opening the file 09.00.56 # most of the time the stack usage will be quite small 09.04.41 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-25-26.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 09.05.22 # what bug, hardeep? 09.05.44 # "Pb with file creation" I guess? 09.05.47 # earHurts: file write bug, you can create a file with the same name as a directory 09.05.47 # 786422 09.05.53 # yeah 09.06.01 # incidently, I only occasionally got the "stkov" screen 09.06.25 # most of the time my problem resembled the symptoms of red dead led 09.06.53 # nudge nudge, wink wink 09.07.03 # indeed 09.07.18 # but I doubt the RLD is a stack overflow 09.07.35 # then it would happen for more people I think 09.07.45 # Bagder.. howdy 09.07.51 # hi adi 09.07.56 # question for you.. 09.07.59 # the plugins.. 09.08.14 # are those intentionally not doing language support? 09.08.32 # good question 09.08.54 # adi|home: yeah, Zagor didn't want to make the plugins dependant on main code data 09.08.58 # because seems to me that language support should span to the plugins as well... 09.09.09 # gw says everyone should speak amer'kin 09.09.17 # right.. but when you compile that should be taken into account seing as we are building the rocks seperatly 09.10.09 # adi|home: ? 09.10.46 # well when you compile.. thats when the language is built in.. 09.10.48 # yes? 09.10.52 # as i understand the system.. 09.11.02 # adi|home: into the main code, yeah 09.11.06 # right.. 09.11.26 # and when you compile the main code... (assuming you haven't built the rocks before) thats when they get compiled 09.11.33 # yes? 09.11.52 # adi|home: that's when what get compiled? the rocks? 09.12.12 # yes... if you havn't built the rocks before. the rocks get built when you build the main code 09.12.21 # yep 09.12.27 Join bazzzzzzz [0] (~bazzz@12-233-21-7.client.attbi.com) 09.12.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.12.50 # okay.. then why not have the language build in then? 09.12.57 # hi all 09.13.07 # we could consider a diff system to seperate rock related language parts.. 09.13.08 # long time user, first time visitor 09.13.20 # so they are not part of the main body of language strings.. 09.13.37 # hardeep: are you awake? 09.13.45 # adi|home: sure, we could build it into the plugin 09.13.53 # just seems assanine to me to force a user to use english in a rock if they can use anything they want in the main code 09.14.03 # bazzzzzzz: yep 09.14.22 # adi|home: yeah, we only need to fix a system that works stand-alone for the rocks 09.14.30 # adi|home: how about switching languages? 09.14.30 # nods 09.14.47 # hi! I am using the latest builds and I had a question about the difference between "playlist" actions and "queue" actions 09.14.53 # you have to do a recompile like you do now... 09.15.08 # either that or we need to do dynamic parsing/printing of languages 09.15.42 # bazzzzzzz: do you mean between queue and insert? 09.15.43 # oh yes, sorry! :) 09.15.43 # in the playlist menu 09.15.43 # adi|home: you don't need to recompile to run a new language... 09.15.43 # when you go "on" - "play" 09.15.50 # um, you don't? 09.16.02 # adi|home: nope, just plan the .lng file 09.16.05 # er play 09.16.17 # ahh.. see.. i only ever use english :) 09.16.18 # adi|home: useful since official builds are only in english 09.16.44 # bazzzzzzz: right... queued tracks are deleted as soon as they are played 09.16.46 # well.. we could consider saying, when you play a plugin, we look for a that plugin.lng file 09.17.01 # bazzzzzzz: and they aren't saved when you request a save from the playlist options menu 09.17.03 # but that allows for alot of repitition 09.17.32 # ahhh ok, so if i'm just playing a bunch of tracks and not building a playlist to save, just use queue 09.17.56 # bazzzzzzz: depends on whether you want to repeat them 09.18.06 # bazzzzzzz: if not, then queue... otherwise insert 09.18.08 # Bagder... im considering tackling the scroll bar display for settings.... 09.18.26 # if/when i complete it.. should i just commit it as an option or pass it to you and the lads to beta? 09.18.30 # oh, queue doesn't repeat regargless of repeat option setting?? 09.18.34 # thanks so much, rockbox is so damn good, you guys are doing a great job, night all 09.18.46 # night bazzzzzzz 09.18.48 # feel free to come back :) 09.19.02 # earHurts: queued tracks are deleted as soon as they are played so nothing to repeat 09.19.14 # didn't know that. 09.19.14 # I certainly will guys, g'night 09.19.16 # adi|home: I think we could make it run as "beta" first to get people's opinions on it before we commit 09.19.21 # night bazzz 09.19.22 Quit bazzzzzzz () 09.19.56 # nods 09.25.08 # how inefficient is seeking to the end of a large file? 09.26.10 # its not... 09.26.29 # you can stat the file, gets its size, open and jump right to the end 09.26.43 # now.. if you want to seek for something in a large file, thats diff.. 09.26.48 # y? 09.26.56 # yeah, does rockbox do that if I lseek? 09.27.06 # do what? 09.27.11 # in fat, you'll have to go through the entire list of clusters to get to the end 09.27.25 # true... 09.27.29 # it can be slow since you're reading this info from disk 09.28.02 # er, entire list of clusters for that specific file 09.28.48 # say 20 bytes per line, 2700 lines 09.29.12 # that's 54,000 bytes 09.29.27 # earHurts that's nothing... will take no time 09.29.51 # i thought you were talking about several hundred megabytes. : 09.29.54 # yeah, but how much battery/disk time will it take? 09.29.54 # :) 09.30.49 # earHurts: 50k won't take much time at all, that's ~15 or so clusters 09.31.08 # ok, I won't worry then 09.46.46 # er, make that ~6 clusters (16 secs per cluster) 09.48.30 Join adiamas [0] (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-25-26.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 09.48.53 Quit adi|home (Connection reset by peer) 09.51.09 # I'm out 09.55.39 Join Jon347 [0] (~jon@pcp01419316pcs.plmthm01.pa.comcast.net) 09.57.10 # i'm having general trouble accessing my jukebox through usb, can someone point me in the direction of a forum that might be able to help? 09.57.24 # rockbox mailing list 09.58.17 # reinstall your drivers 09.58.32 # its described for discussion, i don't want to clutter with a random question 09.58.49 # its from linux i have trouble 09.58.50 # it's ok, it's happened before 09.59.10 # definitely the list, then 09.59.17 # ok thanks.. 09.59.34 # Jon347: what archos model? 09.59.34 Quit earHurts (Remote closed the connection) 10.00.07 Quit MT (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10.00.25 Join MT [0] (~MT@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 10.00.46 # recorder 20 10.00.50 # it was working fine 10.01.10 # but i accidently had it connected to usb while running on batteries without a charger 10.01.26 # of course, batteries die during an operation and corrupt the harddrive somehow 10.01.47 # i ran scandisk in windows, but it didnt seem to clear it up 10.01.49 # have you ran dosfsck on it? 10.01.54 # ok 10.02.06 # i actually reformated it in windows 10.02.27 # and that didn't help either? 10.02.27 # and now in linux, it'll read alright for a while 10.02.39 # and then all of a sudden, maybe i'm playing a song in xmms 10.02.44 # i skip a few tracks 10.03.04 # and it freezes, xmms freezes, i try to kill it, but it won't die 10.03.12 # and nothing else can access the jukebox 10.03.25 # have you checked /var/log/messages when this happens? 10.03.49 # i can do so now 10.05.09 Quit thu ("Client exiting") 10.07.55 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 10.08.37 # last thing i see in /var/log/messages is the boot 10.08.41 # messages 10.09.21 Quit hardeep ("BitchX: its what's for lunch") 10.09.21 # weird 10.09.28 # I've never seen anything like that happen 10.09.33 # i kind wish i knew, how to let xmms, let go of the device 10.09.50 # i'm unable to kill it 10.10.00 # or umount the device 10.10.51 # it just says device is busy 10.16.02 Join doctorsmith [0] (fiftyfour@cs24160101-217.houston.rr.com) 10.16.11 # Hi all! 10.17.50 Topic "midknight2k3 will be gone till Wednesda" by doctorsmith (fiftyfour@cs24160101-217.houston.rr.com) 10.17.53 # Oh My God 10.17.54 # ad 10.17.55 # bad 10.18.00 Topic "midknight2k3 will be gone till Wednesday" by doctorsmith (fiftyfour@cs24160101-217.houston.rr.com) 10.18.11 # hi 10.18.16 # Hi! 10.19.34 Part Jon347 10.20.49 Quit doctorsmith (Client Quit) 10.51.27 # umm... ill ask a stupid quesiton :) how is midknight2k3's status relavent for topic :) 10.51.37 # it isn't 10.51.43 # k... 10.51.46 # just checking... 10.51.53 Topic "bleep" by Bagder (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 10.52.18 Topic "" by adiamas (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-25-26.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 10.52.26 # :) 11.07.11 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-25-26.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 11.07.17 Quit adiamas (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11.07.19 Join TotMacher [0] (tot@ip122.rsidus.riege.de) 11.12.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.02.45 Join kurzhaarrocker [200] (~Phil@123.15.204.212.sr1.DTM1.ip.versanet.de) 12.02.55 # Hi. 12.04.12 # Concerning rocks: does the api cover access to the mp3 buffer? Can rocks control the mp3 engine (like stop, play, etc)? 12.08.13 # if it can't, we can easily extend it to allow it 12.10.30 Quit matsl (Remote closed the connection) 12.11.27 # * kurzhaarrocker needs a new JBR :( Mine seems to suffer broken wires on the pcb -> unfindable. 12.12.48 Part kurzhaarrocker 13.12.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.33.05 Join AciD [0] (~gni@ANantes-106-1-27-175.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.38.33 # oi 14.39.03 # moj 14.50.07 Join TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.114.242.25) 14.50.11 # hi 14.50.15 # got a problem here 14.50.26 # what is panic ata -1 14.50.45 # its a problem with the ata 14.50.55 # for the exact meaning you need to read the source 14.51.13 # I can 14.51.21 # I can't start boot my player 14.51.26 # my fm that is 14.51.56 # have you scandisked it? 14.52.17 # no I can't connect it to my pc 14.52.39 # insert the usb cable before you press ON 14.52.47 # then rockbox won't start 14.53.58 # than the archos f/w stops at 1/3 14.54.18 # can this be because of low batt or something 14.54.34 # that it so so low that the harddisk can't spin up 14.57.35 # or is this something to worry about 14.58.17 # make sure you charge your batteries properly 14.58.21 # then try it again 14.58.25 # ok 14.58.30 # I'll do that 14.58.55 # in the worst case, what would this be 14.59.06 # I don't know 14.59.08 # something like a headercrash 15.00.31 # well ok 15.00.44 # will come on later and spill my beans 15.00.46 # cya 15.00.47 Quit TBoy ("Bye guys") 15.12.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.44.23 Quit Bagder ("http://daniel.haxx.se") 16.15.16 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-231-237.res.east.verizon.net) 16.15.25 # hello? 16.31.52 Join elinenbe [0] (elinenbe_@user-0cev103.cable.mindspring.com) 16.35.01 Quit dwihno ("Ha det så gott!") 16.55.58 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 17.03.05 Join Harlequin [0] (~Harlequin@gromit.eng.eircom.net) 17.03.32 Quit Harlequin (Client Quit) 17.05.13 Join Harlequin [0] (~Harlequin@gromit.eng.eircom.net) 17.05.59 # Hi all. Does anyone know whether the FMR could display imbeded lyrics on the wps? 17.07.05 # Harlequin: there is no option available for that 17.08.01 # Harlequin: see http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/custom_wps_format.html for all available wps tags 17.08.25 # Yep, I looked at that. I thought it might not be documented. 17.10.44 # hardeep: anything new with your dynamic playlist / playlist viewer patch? I am heading out of town for 5 days and would like the latest version. 17.11.14 # elinenbe: the latest version is on SF, i haven't made any changes since then 17.12.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.13.48 # hardeep: thanks 17.17.32 # You want synchronized or unsynchronized lyrics? 17.20.35 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 17.22.20 Join needshelp [0] (jirc@pcp04539116pcs.brmngh01.mi.comcast.net) 17.23.26 # hi guys, anybody received a read access error on their Rockbox? 17.24.00 # needshelp: what exactly is the error you see? and when? 17.24.51 # I am getting a read access error on my Rockbox after I installed new 2200mAh batteries. 17.24.53 # is there any way fron the UI to force a dir listing to be refreshed, other than changing the displayed file types? 17.25.27 # I can't even get my computer to recoginize the drive now. 17.25.28 # earHurts: reload_directory() 17.25.58 # It won't start, it just displays the message 17.26.01 # needshelp: are you getting something like an HD register error? 17.26.04 # er, from the UI, I mean as a user, not as a programmer 17.26.32 # not register error, just read access error. 17.26.41 # earHurts: oh, nope in that case 17.27.06 # I then changed the batteries back to original ones, but I still get error. 17.27.27 # needshelp: batteries fully charged? 17.27.35 # I'm so bummed cause I've had it since January. 17.27.50 # Yes I left charger on overnite. 17.28.14 # needshelp: can you access your hard drive when the charger is attached? 17.28.24 # no 17.28.36 # I still get same message 17.28.54 # needshelp: ouch, that sounds like a hardware problem then 17.29.34 # Damn, it worked great until I changed batteries. 17.30.15 # thanks anyway 17.31.40 Join Galik [0] (~galik@195.137.124.20) 17.32.39 Quit needshelp ("Leaving") 17.35.04 # bye 17.35.04 Quit elinenbe (" WOW! This IRC Client ownz! HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 17.36.03 Quit k3no__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17.55.08 Join Malphas__ [0] (~s@AOrleans-103-1-29-190.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.00.28 Part Harlequin ("Client exiting") 18.04.15 Join TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.114.242.25) 18.04.25 # ok hoi 18.04.27 # i'm back 18.04.42 # I still get the ata panic -1 18.07.07 # any1 that has some sort of advice for me 18.07.16 # I'm starting to get scared 18.09.41 # one more what is panic ata -11 18.10.23 # some1 here 18.13.37 # please 18.26.50 # lo 18.27.07 # Have you run scandisk? 18.27.13 Join _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-19-146.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.27.28 # TBoy: 18.27.33 # <_aLF> hi 18.29.24 # I cant connect it 18.30.19 # see 18.30.20 # What happens when u turn it off and then plug the usb in? Does it show the usb or the panic message? 18.30.20 # I 18.31.01 # it shows nothing since the archos firmware cant start 18.31.05 # and in rb 18.31.09 # it shows the panic 18.31.40 # it it flashed? 18.31.50 # yes :( 18.32.07 # have you trief f1 on? 18.32.11 # yes 18.32.13 # trief=tried 18.32.23 # it just loads 1/3 18.32.25 # of the bar 18.32.36 # but if I connect the charger 18.32.38 # have u tried turn off hold f1 and plug in the usb ? 18.32.39 # it charges 18.32.43 # yes 18.32.48 # hmm 18.32.57 # and if I charge with archos 18.33.05 # and then connect the usb it shows -11 18.33.09 # instead of -1 18.34.11 # Well I'm not an expert. Apparently you ahould be able to get it working with a serial cable but I don't know how to do that 18.34.33 # I'd keep coming here till you find someone who can :( 18.35.17 # yes 18.35.25 # thx anyway 18.35.26 Quit AciD (Nick collision from services.) 18.35.43 Join AciD [0] (~gni@ANantes-106-1-27-175.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.37.06 # hello? 18.39.19 # yo, yo, yo, where my playas at? 18.41.32 # here 18.41.41 # you can maybe help me out 18.41.54 # when i boot up my player i get ata -1 18.41.58 # panic 18.43.16 # make sure you're fully charged 18.43.29 # then try loading the archos firmware 18.44.07 # archos f/w doesn't load 18.44.48 # it stops at 1/3 18.45.06 # are you charged? 18.45.46 Quit mecraw (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.45.46 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 18.45.46 Quit earHurts (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.45.46 Quit Zagor (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.45.46 Quit PsycoXul (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.45.46 Quit _aLF 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Galik (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.47.32 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-25-26.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 18.52.19 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 18.53.23 NJoin _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-19-146.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.53.23 NJoin Galik [0] (~galik@195.137.124.20) 18.53.35 Quit _aLF (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.53.35 Quit Galik (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 18.57.37 NJoin TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.114.242.25) 18.59.51 NJoin mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 18.59.51 NJoin earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-231-237.res.east.verizon.net) 18.59.51 NJoin Zagor [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 18.59.51 NJoin PsycoXul [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-140.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 19.00.56 # earhurts 19.03.36 NJoin _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-19-146.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.03.36 NJoin Galik [0] (~galik@195.137.124.20) 19.03.55 Quit _aLF (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.03.55 Quit Galik (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.05.58 Join Naked [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 19.06.04 Quit TBoy ("Bye guys") 19.06.06 NJoin Malphas__ [0] (~s@AOrleans-103-1-29-190.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.06.09 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 19.06.12 NJoin Kinslayer [0] (dragon@wastelands.net) 19.11.00 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 19.11.00 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 19.11.00 NJoin MT [0] (~MT@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 19.11.00 NJoin Plugh [0] (plugh@adsl-68-122-77-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 19.12.18 NJoin _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-19-146.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.12.18 NJoin Galik [0] (~galik@195.137.124.20) 19.12.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.14.18 Quit _aLF (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.14.19 Quit Galik (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.14.19 Quit Plugh (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.14.19 Quit mbr (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.14.19 Quit Hes (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.14.19 Quit MT (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.14.25 NJoin Galik [0] (~galik@195.137.124.20) 19.14.25 NJoin _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-19-146.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.14.25 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 19.14.25 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 19.14.25 NJoin MT [0] (~MT@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 19.14.25 NJoin Plugh [0] (plugh@adsl-68-122-77-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 19.20.28 Quit Hadaka (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.20.28 Quit Zagor (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.20.28 Quit earHurts (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.20.28 Quit PsycoXul (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.20.28 Quit mecraw (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.20.28 Quit Kinslayer (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.20.28 Quit _aLF (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.20.28 Quit Galik (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.20.28 Quit Plugh (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.20.28 Quit mbr (niven.freenode.net 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keyboard is now back to life 19.27.03 # nope 19.27.18 # ok 19.27.23 # I need to test a .mod 19.27.36 # well, if you need FMR info, feel free to ask any time 19.27.53 # thanks 19.28.44 Quit Zagor (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.28.44 Quit Kinslayer (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.28.48 NJoin Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 19.28.48 NJoin Kinslayer [0] (dragon@wastelands.net) 19.30.36 Nick Zagor is now known as Zagor|food (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 19.31.05 Quit Kinslayer (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.31.05 Quit Zagor|food (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.31.05 Quit earHurts (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.31.05 Quit Hadaka (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.31.05 Quit PsycoXul (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.31.05 Quit mecraw (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.31.05 Quit _aLF (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.31.05 Quit Galik (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19.31.05 Quit Hes (niven.freenode.net 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(1098@208.247.65.237) 20.25.47 NJoin k3no [0] (trilluser@80.178.33.101.forward.012.net.il) 20.25.47 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 20.25.47 NJoin mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 20.25.47 NJoin earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-231-237.res.east.verizon.net) 20.25.47 NJoin PsycoXul [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-140.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 20.25.51 NJoin Kinslayer [0] (dragon@wastelands.net) 20.26.01 NJoin Zagor|food [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 20.26.31 Quit _aLF (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.26.53 NJoin _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-19-146.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 20.30.09 Join TBoy [0] (~xxx@212.114.242.25) 20.31.55 Quit Hes (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.31.55 Quit mbr (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.31.55 Quit MT (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.31.55 Quit Plugh (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20.32.07 # hello 20.32.17 NJoin Plugh [0] (plugh@adsl-68-122-77-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 20.32.17 NJoin MT [0] (~MT@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 20.32.17 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 20.32.17 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 20.32.19 # any1 here willing to help me out 20.33.06 # what does panic ata -1 20.33.13 # and panic ata -11 20.33.14 # mean 20.33.41 # what's the difference, apart from the numbers 20.34.15 # I have a FM 20.37.39 # TBoy: both errors mean that ata initialization failed (-1 = hard reset failed, -11 = master slave detect failed) 20.38.01 # ok 20.38.01 # TBoy: make sure your batteries are fully charged 20.38.06 # they are 20.38.18 # TBoy: in that case, sounds like some sort of a hardware error 20.38.34 # this is my 8 player within a year 20.39.24 # man 20.40.26 # well this is what I was afraid of 20.41.07 # and deep inside I knew that it was a hardware problem 20.41.13 # well thx anyway :D 20.56.23 Quit TBoy ("Bye guys") 21.04.58 Quit k3no (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21.12.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.13.33 Join remus [0] (~remus@208.35.40.2) 21.30.55 Join jorbond [0] (~jorbond@dhcp024-209-003-214.cinci.rr.com) 21.31.06 # any linux ppl on here 21.31.18 # i am having trouble compiling the newest daily build 21.31.24 # i got it to compile last month 21.31.53 # jorbond: what error are you encountering? 21.32.14 # scramble.c 21.32.39 # jorbond: what's the error? 21.32.50 # sca2 sec, in fluxbox so i cant copy and paste to xchat 21.34.04 # it says that 'FILE' is undeclared 21.34.15 # and that 'file' is undeclared 21.34.36 # refering to the likne 'FILE* file;' 21.35.25 # also i had to copy the files stdlib.h, stdio.h, and _ansi.h to the tools dir 21.35.36 # and change the brackets in scramble to quotes 21.35.42 # b/c it couldnt find the files 21.35.48 Quit jorbond (Client Quit) 21.36.14 Join jorbond [0] (~jorbond@dhcp024-209-003-214.cinci.rr.com) 21.36.21 # sry about that hit the X 21.36.40 # jorbond: sounds like you don't have a proper development environment setup on your box 21.36.57 # jorbond: stdlib.h, stdio.h etc. should be in /usr/include 21.37.08 # jorbond: you shouldn't have to copy anything 21.37.11 # but i am using the sh-gcc compiler 21.37.38 # so the enviroment for that is different 21.37.46 # jorbond: scramble.c uses gcc 21.37.57 # so i need to fix the makefile 21.38.42 # b/c it runs sh-elf-gcc -0 -s -ansi scampble.c -o scramble 21.38.51 # jorbond: er, what Makefile? 21.39.38 # jorbond: did you set CC to sh-elf-gcc ? 21.40.11 # jorbond: if so, unset it... CC should be gcc 21.40.44 # thx 21.40.54 # i added CC=gcc to the tools makefile and it worked 21.41.37 # jorbond: you don't need to modify the makefiles, it sounds like your shell settings are incorrect 21.41.51 # no it does need modified 21.42.09 # b/c the makefile in my build dir sets CC=sh-elf-gcc 21.42.18 # so then it tries to use that on the tools 21.42.42 # jorbond: that's fine... run make from the tools directory to build the tools 21.42.49 # but CC=gcc needs to be set in the tools makefile so that it knows to use gcc instead of sh-elf-gcc for building the tools 21.43.17 # if u just add that line u can still run a normal make 21.50.13 # can anyone help me with patches, please? 21.51.04 # patches? 21.51.14 # We don't have no patches 21.51.23 # WE DON'T NEED NO STEENKING PATCHES! 21.51.29 # those files you create with diff 21.52.31 # i hate patches lol 21.52.44 # trying to fix there problems right now 21.52.46 Nick Zagor|food is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 21.55.10 # I'm making a patch but when I try to reverse it, it fails 21.56.17 # just applied the fast rolo start patch :) 21.57.34 Quit AciD (Connection timed out) 22.00.31 Join AciD [0] (~gni@ANantes-106-1-17-107.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.00.41 Part remus ("Client Exiting") 22.06.25 # hmm, that rolo patch isnt working for me 22.07.19 # gets to executing and takes about 5sec then it shuts down 22.07.54 # dunno what to tell you 22.08.05 # what sort of archos? 22.08.11 # studio/player 22.08.21 # oh, good 22.08.32 # want to test something for me? 22.08.36 # i had to apply some parts of it manually 22.08.39 # sure 22.08.45 # so that might be the problem 22.09.08 # can I email you a .mod file? 22.09.13 # yeah 22.09.48 # email addy? 22.09.52 # send whatever u like, mods, music, viruses 22.10.07 # pmed 22.10.23 Quit AciD (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.10.47 # * Plugh digs out his gig of viruses zipfile 22.11.04 # lol 22.13.16 # anyone ever heard of windows xp all of a sudden bringing up an nt error msg saying you must restart in 2 min, then it restarts the computer 22.13.28 # i have 2 friends who had this problem start today 22.13.45 # i said virus but he said his virus scan didn't pick anything up 22.14.15 # weird 22.14.21 # definitely sounds like a virus 22.14.25 # stuff like that usually isn't a virus 22.14.28 # it's a trojan 22.14.42 # afaik windows never restarts automatically without you pressing "ok" or "restart" 22.14.55 # oh yeah, it does 22.15.01 # when? 22.15.16 # during install 22.15.18 # yeah but it happens to him everytime he restarts so unless a kid is really bored and sending the cmd everytime 22.15.32 # the mechanism is there 22.15.45 # yeah but with a trojan u have to manually send the cmd 22.15.46 # Plugh: right, but not during normal use or administrative procedures 22.16.01 # happened to me about 2 weeks ago 22.16.08 # was just doing admin tasks 22.16.14 # mebbe a windows update 22.16.18 # and it auto-rebooted 22.16.30 # maybe xp is different. i'm staying away from it, so i wouldn't know... 22.16.43 # this was 2k 22.16.49 # also windows xp does restart by itself b/c i had gfx card problems and it would do it randomly 22.16.57 # never ever happened to me in neither nt nor 2k 22.16.58 # so i formated and am going linux only 22.17.12 # * jorbond hugs gentoo 22.17.24 # jorbond: did it really say "i will restart in 2 minutes" then, or did it just crash? 22.17.38 # gentoo is silly, imho 22.17.56 # * Zagor loves the smell of napalm in the morning ;) 22.18.13 # smells like... iraq 22.18.28 # http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=432201 22.18.38 # he said it said that 22.18.43 # so did his friend 22.19.10 # sounds like a new trojan out there 22.19.20 # n crash, b/c i would be talking to him, then he would be like that msg appeared, then he would logoff 22.19.21 # gentoo is for people whose idea of "fun" is waiting 36 hours for XFree86 to compile... :) 22.19.32 # any reason patch works but patch -R doeds not? 22.19.33 # so he would call and say yeah it did it again hehe 22.19.35 # hehe 22.19.42 Join AciD [0] (~gni@ANantes-106-1-30-251.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.19.43 # gentoo is good if u leave it on for a while 22.19.59 # 1:20pm up 15 days, 15:56, 11 users, load average: 0.22, 0.11, 0.03 22.20.04 # just type emerge gnome, and in a weekend of playing on the beach my system is ready 22.20.04 # what's good about it? 22.20.05 Join k3no [0] (trilluser@80.178.45.214.forward.012.net.il) 22.20.10 # lol 22.20.25 # type "apt-get install gnome" and in, oh, 7 minutes my system is ready 22.20.28 # i like being able to use devel sources 22.20.42 # like right now i am using 2.3.6 gnome 22.21.50 # sort of like debian unstable then 22.22.09 # only with a few dozen hours waiting time every upgrade :) 22.22.39 # once u get the big pacages done like xfree, and first time of gnome it is simple to upgrade 22.22.53 # only like 2hrs max to upgrade to a new version of gnome 22.23.24 # arrrgh 22.23.46 # i just copied ur mod to my player 22.23.59 # great! 22.24.07 # does it run? 22.24.28 # it ran 22.24.34 # and? 22.24.46 # well it shows all files 22.24.57 # and my bat when from 2 bars to 1 22.25.24 # but it was borderline 22.25.29 # see if there is a file called /power.baseline.00.log 22.25.34 # there is 22.25.35 Quit jorbond (niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.25.35 NSplit niven.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 22.25.42 DEBUG EOF from server (Success) 22.25.42 *** Cleanup 22.25.42 *** Connected to irc.eu.freenode.net on port 6667 22.25.42 *** Logfile for #rockbox started 22.25.47 *** Server message 422: 'logbot_ :MOTD File is missing' 22.25.47 *** Server message 501: 'logbot_ :Unknown MODE flag' 22.25.47 Mode "logbot_ :+i" by logbot_ 22.25.47 Join logbot_ [242] (~bjst@labb.contactor.se) 22.25.47 Join jorbond [0] (~jorbond@dhcp024-209-003-214.cinci.rr.com) 22.25.47 Join k3no [0] (trilluser@80.178.45.214.forward.012.net.il) 22.25.47 Join AciD [0] (~gni@ANantes-106-1-30-251.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.25.47 Join Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 22.25.47 Join mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 22.25.47 Join earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-231-237.res.east.verizon.net) 22.25.47 Join PsycoXul [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-140.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 22.25.47 Join Kinslayer [0] (dragon@wastelands.net) 22.25.47 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 22.25.47 Join _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-19-146.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.25.47 Join Plugh [0] (plugh@adsl-68-122-77-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 22.25.47 Join MT [0] (~MT@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 22.25.47 Join mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 22.25.47 Join Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 22.25.54 Quit k3no (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.25.54 NSplit leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 22.25.54 Quit Plugh (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.25.54 Quit MT (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.25.54 Quit mbr (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.25.54 Quit Hes (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.25.55 NHeal leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 22.25.55 NJoin Plugh [0] (plugh@adsl-68-122-77-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 22.25.57 # damn, I musta pissed you off 22.25.59 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-25-26.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 22.26.00 Join Malphas__ [0] (~s@AOrleans-103-1-26-17.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.26.02 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 22.26.04 Quit hardeep (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.26.04 Quit Malphas__ (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.26.04 Quit jorbond (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.26.04 Quit AciD (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.26.04 Quit Hadaka (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.26.04 Quit earHurts (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.26.04 Quit Kinslayer (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.26.04 Quit Zagor (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.26.04 Quit mecraw (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.26.04 Quit PsycoXul (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.26.07 NJoin hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 22.26.10 NJoin PsycoXul [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-41-140.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 22.26.12 Join Naked [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 22.26.13 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 22.26.13 NJoin Malphas__ [0] (~s@AOrleans-103-1-26-17.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.26.16 NJoin mecraw [0] (~mecraw@69.2.235.2) 22.26.17 NJoin Kinslayer [0] (dragon@wastelands.net) 22.26.21 NJoin earHurts [0] (~zic@pool-141-156-231-237.res.east.verizon.net) 22.26.23 NJoin jorbond [0] (~jorbond@dhcp024-209-003-214.cinci.rr.com) 22.26.29 # did i miss anything 22.26.32 NJoin mbr [0] (~mb@stlx01.stz-softwaretechnik.de) 22.26.39 # I don't think so 22.26.43 NJoin AciD [0] (~gni@ANantes-106-1-30-251.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.26.50 # servers are being wacky 22.26.56 # so what does this mod do? 22.26.57 # very 22.27.09 NJoin k3no [0] (trilluser@80.178.45.214.forward.012.net.il) 22.27.14 # well, actually, it's the power save mod 22.27.31 # except the player version doesn't suspend scrolling 22.27.47 # but it won't actually save you any power 22.27.47 # well my bat just went from 39% to 41% so i guess its working hehe 22.27.50 Join MT [0] (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 22.28.11 # actually, it will consume more power than the normal 22.28.39 # well thats great 22.28.57 # oh, and it resets your settings. sorry, I should have warned you of that 22.29.09 # i didnt have any settings in the first place 22.29.21 # ah, then.... 22.29.31 # what's your volume now? 22.30.00 # 90% 22.30.04 # it set it higher 22.30.07 # cool 22.30.07 # it was 65% 22.30.13 # wow 22.30.22 # I can't hear crap at 65 22.30.46 Join Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 22.31.08 # ok, can you email me the power.baseline.00.log, please? 22.31.10 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBF04D6.ipt.aol.com) 22.31.15 # Hey 22.31.24 # i keep the backlight turned off and volume at 65, so that is my power saving lol 22.31.28 # 2 sec and i will 22.32.27 # great, it's a list of all your mp3s. the riaa will pay good money for that 22.32.40 # hehe 22.32.45 # i dont use p2p im safe 22.32.53 # all copied from my cds :) 22.33.04 # no one is safe 22.33.45 # well i will shove my retail cds up there a** if they try and bring me to court lol 22.34.23 # lovely picture 22.34.38 # a little floyd in ther and some nirvana 22.35.04 # send me that email for great justice 22.35.11 # sent it 22.35.51 # waiting..... 22.36.12 Join Zagor_ [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 22.36.20 # Zagor!!!!!!!!!!! 22.36.20 Nick Zagor_ is now known as Zagor (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 22.36.24 # How are you? 22.36.26 # Smile :-) 22.36.27 # :D 22.36.28 # fine, thanks 22.36.36 # :-)_ 22.36.39 # give us a smile :-) 22.37.07 # did you have the charger in?? 22.37.13 # no 22.37.26 # is my player special lol 22.37.26 # weird 22.37.37 # i also think my player has pms 22.37.42 # were you playing music? 22.37.45 # b/c it refuses to boot sometimes 22.37.48 # for a little bit 22.38.21 # 192, and 128 bit cbr? 22.38.46 # it was 192 cbr 22.39.00 # hmm 22.39.18 # were you pausing it? 22.39.28 # i cant remember, maybe lol 22.39.35 # sweet 22.39.42 # thanks for your help 22.39.48 # im back to 2 bars also 22.39.59 # 54% bat 22.40.10 # remeber, my build will drain your battery faster 22.40.15 # Zagor I went back to the Archos firmware today 22.40.20 # don't use it except to test 22.40.24 # there isnt much different sound-quality wise 22.40.28 # ok 22.41.11 # anyone with a recorder care to do some testing? 22.41.17 # YES ME 22.41.18 # :-) 22.41.22 # ill test whatever u wanna tes 22.41.23 # t 22.41.42 # what's your email? priv msg me 22.41.56 # tracktheripper: i wouldn't expect that, no 22.42.04 # pardon Zagor? 22.42.07 # what u mean dude? 22.42.11 # ok, give me 5 minutes 22.42.17 # n[ 22.42.18 # np 22.43.03 # earhurts did u get my email addy? 22.43.05 # tracktheripper: i mean there shouldn't be a sound quality difference btwn rockbox and archos, except for the buzzing 22.43.07 Quit tracktheripper (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.43.07 Quit _aLF (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.43.21 # yep he has a trojan 22.43.28 NJoin _aLF [0] (~Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-19-146.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.43.29 # someone is messing with other things now 22.43.41 Quit _aLF (leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22.43.43 NJoin tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBF04D6.ipt.aol.com) 22.43.44 # the lovely world of windows 22.43.44 # anyone know a good trojan remover, he is putting a firewall on 22.43.54 Join _aLF [0] (Alexandre@AGrenoble-203-1-19-146.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 22.43.54 # try and hack my linux i dare u 22.44.02 # earhurts what needs testing? 22.44.22 # Zagor when I used the ROM Archos firmware I never heard significant buzzing 22.44.40 # tracktheripper: it's not significant. it's very quiet. 22.44.55 # oh 22.45.06 # well i never heard it anway 22.49.44 Quit tracktheripper ("Leaving") 23.02.29 # i wonder about the new rio karma. it claims 40gig in a 3-inch package. the naked 1.8" drives from toshiba are 3.1 inches long 23.03.36 # looks sweet 23.03.54 # but frankly, I enjoy hacking too much to get one 23.04.33 # i just wonder, are they plain lying about the size or are they using some weird new drive size (unlikely) 23.05.07 # Urge Overkill - Girl You'll Be A Woman Soon 23.05.11 # maybe their fudging 23.05.44 # say a truncated pyramid design, measureing the smaller cross section? 23.05.48 # thry're 23.05.52 # they're 23.06.40 # we'll see, i guess. the specs look nice, i could imagine hacking on one of those 23.07.25 Quit mecraw ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)") 23.08.17 # does it run L avarient of; linux? 23.09.02 Quit jorbond ("Client exiting") 23.09.52 # some guy on slashdot claims it runs ecos 23.10.03 # is that gpl'd? 23.10.07 # yes 23.10.22 # um, maybe not gpl actually. 23.10.52 # it's a modified gpl, which is a bit less viral 23.10.56 # could we get the source 23.10.58 # http://sources.redhat.com/ecos/license-overview.html 23.10.58 # ? 23.11.09 # to ecos, yes. to the rio, probably not. 23.11.17 # then screw it. 23.11.36 # this archos experience has taught me that much 23.11.58 # I'm constantly amazed that you reverse engineered it 23.11.59 # otoh, rio is made by an american company. they might be more rational than archos about fostering a hacking community. 23.12.30 # er, i dunno about that... the US is the home of the DMCA after all 23.12.41 # screw it. 23.12.54 # I don't want to be caught in archos hell again 23.12.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.13.07 # hardeep: true. but there also are a handful of rational people there. or so i've heard. :) 23.13.36 # i'd say it's worth looking into 23.13.47 # of course, I ended up paying $440 for my archos, more that the karma 20 23.13.56 # definitely... the device looks pretty sleek 23.14.17 # I like the ogg and flac 23.14.21 # and the screen 23.14.43 # indeed 23.15.15 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@as3-3-2.ras.s.bonet.se) 23.15.27 # btw, I'm using that tortoise cvs you mentioned 23.15.37 # evening 23.15.47 # earHurts: is it good? 23.15.50 # hi Bagder 23.15.53 # it's not bad 23.15.59 # evening 23.16.18 # unediting is a bit harder/odder 23.16.44 # and it doesn't collapse directories, making finding stuff harder than wincvs 23.17.16 # but it accepts cygwin cvs metadata better than wincvs 23.17.26 # once you explicitly tell it to 23.18.22 # so, Zagor, hardeep, Bagder 23.19.03 # one of you must be able to tell me why patch -R doesn't work for me 23.19.58 # user error? ;-) 23.20.16 # yeah 23.20.20 # probably 23.20.33 # the patch applies fine, but it doesn't reverse 23.20.49 # what happens then? 23.20.51 # btw, I wrote that incrementing file name function 23.21.43 # Hunk #1 FAILED at 422 23.22.13 # 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file wps.c.rej 23.22.15 # done 23.22.38 # I've never had any problems with -R 23.22.44 # not that I use very often 23.23.33 # I would be happy to send you the patch to futz with ;) 23.24.35 # you can only remove a patch that was already added 23.25.11 # I made the patch, applied it, tried to reverse it 23.25.24 # so it was (and is) added 23.25.29 # ok 23.25.47 # and it isn't a line ending issue? 23.26.19 # I used -w to make it, and -l to reverse it 23.26.57 # and the rejects, can you see in them why they failed? 23.27.18 # patch/diff gets crazy on line ending differences 23.27.23 # no matter what options you use 23.27.30 # besides, all my lines end with lf only 23.27.56 # wait, ok, one crlf 23.28.04 # god knows why 23.28.40 # oh, perhaps having to reinstall windows 23.29.52 # ah, I owe you a hefeweissen 23.30.06 # removing that one cr fixed it 23.30.08 # thanks 23.30.10 # ah 23.30.12 # goodie 23.30.23 # tr -d '\015' < patch > newpatch 23.30.24 # ;-) 23.30.31 # I use that a lot 23.30.51 # what's tr? 23.30.57 # translate 23.31.03 # but it can delete too 23.31.13 # ah 23.31.21 # thanks 23.31.43 # when I reinstalled, I was using my editor's defaults 23.32.08 # I've been pure lf for a while 23.32.29 # zagor, you still here? 23.32.38 # yes 23.33.30 # a couple of days ago, you told me I'd have to watch my thread's queue for usb connections if my thread did file i/o 23.35.18 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 23.35.28 # right 23.35.51 # this doesn't appear to be the case 23.36.30 # my thread doesn't do anything other than skip file i/o if usb_connected() 23.40.56 # odd 23.42.32 # add the usb connects as it ever did 23.42.42 # s/add/and 23.45.19 Join shampoo [0] (jirc@D5769C6A.kabel.telenet.be) 23.45.41 # hi, i just installed the Rockbox software on my recorder 23.45.52 # i have a small question 23.46.44 # on the 'while playing screen' on top is left from the time a circle with 2 dots in it ,shown 23.46.52 # i don't find it in the manual what it means 23.46.59 # shuffle 23.47.03 # can somebody help me here? 23.47.03 # it's a dice 23.47.33 # what is it for? 23.47.41 # oh i understand 23.47.45 # is it for the shuffle? 23.47.48 # yes 23.47.56 # oh yes, thanks zagor 23.48.14 # another question, which is the font most used? 23.48.27 # I like uwe_prop 23.48.33 # J 23.48.40 # atadore is easy on rhe eyes 23.48.45 # J is the best font!!!!!111! 23.48.55 # and I thought it was a card, not dice 23.49.34 # thanks all of you...i'll give it a try with the fonts 23.52.41 # which was the one that looked like the ipod font? 23.53.20 # scott666: chicago12 23.53.47 # hm. I should probably get my rockbox on the charger 23.54.26 Quit shampoo ("Leaving") 23.54.26 # although I only used 4% of the battery charge on a 2 hour or so commute 23.54.59 Join Galik [0] (~galik@195.137.124.20) 23.55.23 # any audio book freaks around? 23.55.54 # do you really believe someone would admit to being an audio book freak? 23.56.03 # hehe 23.56.05 Quit scott666 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23.56.19 # I would 23.56.24 # why wouldn't anyone else? 23.56.38 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-71-45.mn.client2.attbi.com) 23.57.21 # anyhow, I have a membership to audible.com and was wondering if anyone had gotten their format to play on the archos 23.57.52 Join tracktheripper [0] (jirc@ACBFD294.ipt.aol.com) 23.58.09 # Earhurts what am I looking for in ur firmware?