--- Log for 20.09.103 Server: orwell.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 17 days and 6 hours ago 00.22.58 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr) 00.22.58 Quit joshn (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.23.06 # hellow! 00.23.16 # hi 00.33.41 Join diddystar5 [0] (diddystar5@ACA0DCCA.ipt.aol.com) 00.33.42 Quit BoD[] (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00.39.33 # Zagor: any plans for a patch cleaning day or 2.1 yet? 00.41.11 # we've been discussing a patch cleaning day, but no plans. 00.59.02 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC8C2F94.ipt.aol.com) 00.59.18 # hi zagor 01.00.26 # hi 01.00.50 # hey mid 01.00.50 # DING 01.01.10 # I was considering a main menu redesign, but wondered if it wouldn't mean anything if you decide to keep the current one? 01.01.14 # i hear no dings plugh 01.01.20 # let me turn on speakeres 01.01.35 # ok 01.01.39 # try now 01.01.40 # hey mid 01.01.42 # DING 01.01.52 # yep 01.02.05 # wanna see my 3d tree? 01.02.18 # http://uploadingmisc.tripod.com/tree.bmp 01.02.24 # it should work 01.03.06 # spiffy 01.03.23 # it is? 01.03.33 # no, I was just being polite 01.03.38 # lol 01.03.51 # actually it is pretty good 01.04.01 # i made a ultra neat dragonfly 01.04.02 # but I like messing with your mind 01.04.05 # let me upload it 01.04.15 # i call it a masterpiece 01.06.29 # I'm so friggin tired 01.06.50 # I made the mistake of eating some brownie crumbs before going to work this morning 01.07.02 # haha 01.07.10 # how was that a mistake? 01.07.24 # um, these weren't your average brownies 01.07.33 # oh? 01.07.49 # 7 hours later and I'm still stoned 01.07.59 # oh boy 01.08.01 # off crumbs 01.08.03 # hahah 01.08.14 # work must have been fun 01.08.22 # it's been interesting 01.08.28 # trying to keep my eyes open now 01.08.35 # okay 01.08.35 # don't eat shit that contains ground toad 01.08.43 # i wish i knew how to write code in assembly 01.08.44 # ive been thinking about f2/f3 01.08.55 # and, mt? 01.08.58 # in fact, i may just email it to the list 01.09.05 # yeah, do that 01.09.08 # you're all on the list right? 01.09.10 # so mid can't see it 01.09.12 # HAHA! 01.09.14 # uh 01.09.17 # * Plugh grins evilly 01.09.18 # i can click mailing lists 01.09.27 # and then archives 01.09.34 # and then SCROLL DOWN 01.09.37 # FEEL THE l33tNESS 01.09.37 # I've just asked the list about mp2 :) 01.10.51 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@32.155-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) 01.11.03 # h 01.11.14 # h 01.11.17 # h 01.11.19 # h 01.11.20 # i? 01.11.24 # i 01.11.24 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 01.11.27 # j! 01.11.30 # something we said? ;) 01.11.32 # JERK 01.11.34 # you made him leave 01.11.43 # probably a confused newbie 01.11.46 # and you blew it 01.11.48 # plugh 01.11.51 # always 01.11.56 # stfu mid 01.11.59 # DING 01.12.03 # we made him leave? we can't posses people 01.12.03 # why plugh? 01.12.10 # you scared him 01.12.14 # into leaving 01.12.20 # * Plugh menaces mid 01.12.24 # yeah, the word 'h' is so fucking scary ;) 01.13.03 # http://uploadingmisc.tripod.com/dragonfly.bmp 01.13.05 # there 01.13.31 # nice 01.13.39 # tree was better 01.13.48 # really? 01.13.51 # imo 01.13.52 # and you call us scary, the man with the dragflies 01.13.58 # midknight2k3: jpg has smaller file sizes you know? 01.14.05 # and bmp has better quality 01.14.07 # AH! 01.14.10 # tiff it 01.14.17 # WHO CARES 01.14.22 # not nessasarily 01.14.29 # IT EXPORTS IN BMP I DONT FEEL LIKE SWITCHING IT TO LOWER QUALITY 01.14.34 # ITS 640KB 01.14.41 # you're being scary 01.14.41 # if you cant download it forget it 01.14.45 # i know 01.14.49 # * Plugh tosses mid a capslock key 01.14.57 # gimme a new rockbox and an answer from zagor and i am on my way 01.15.02 # i have one plugh 01.15.06 # it's black 01.15.17 # i have some jpeg pictures in better quality than that and their only 250 kb 01.15.24 # who cares 01.15.24 # what's going on with Neuros? are people working on that 01.15.25 # cool. I don't 01.15.27 # answer for what? 01.15.28 # just seen a msg in the list 01.15.33 # the main menu thing 01.15.34 # I pried off my capslock and threw it 01.15.44 # thing? 01.15.48 # would a redesign be worth anything or are you set on what you have now? 01.15.59 # ui-wise, you mean? 01.16.06 # well, yeah 01.16.20 # i mean, some things can be changed 01.16.30 # it's a little cluttered as of now, if i may say so 01.16.32 # a well thought-out redesign could be worth it. but it needs to be a major improvement. 01.16.45 # i agree 01.16.46 # not just tweaks and fixes 01.16.52 # yeah 01.17.07 # it would take some work but it could be worth it 01.17.11 # i'll look into it 01.17.37 # i think its fine atm 01.17.45 # anyone have their Archos handy ? ;) 01.17.47 # it could be improved 01.17.49 # i do 01.17.55 # i have the archos 01.17.57 # handy 01.18.00 # its very handy 01.18.02 # so do i 01.18.16 # could you trying something for me? 01.18.21 # http://82.37.190.176/hd/ac3/ 01.18.22 # shure 01.18.29 # I need to test one of those MP2's 01.18.40 # i doubt it will work 01.18.41 # (one is .ac3 Dolby Digital, ignore that) 01.18.46 # should do ;) 01.18.47 # archos plays mp3s 01.18.56 # no shit :) 01.19.05 # not mp2s 01.19.12 # midknight2k3: wrong! 01.19.17 # ? 01.19.17 # i can play mp2 01.19.22 # it can? 01.19.25 # mp2? 01.19.29 # there was a patch for scanning for .mp* files 01.19.30 # yep 01.19.34 # odd 01.20.10 # all mp3 decoders are capable of handling the lesser layers because they're less complex, but somethings the framing structure screws them up 01.20.56 # midknight2k3: look into the NEWKEYSv2 posting by bagder a few weeks back. that's the most detailed proposal we have at the moment. 01.21.23 # i did, but i meant the main menu and sub menus only 01.21.26 # not key remapping yet 01.21.46 # the frame for mp2 is 0.024s duration, way shorter than mp3 :/ 01.22.21 # anyway, do try it :) 01.22.38 # diddy? 01.22.53 # one minute 01.24.00 # the smaller file works 01.24.15 # dont wanna try the bigger one 01.24.48 # smooth, does it sound ok, no skipping etc? 01.24.54 # im to lazy to download 2 mb 01.25.05 # why, J00? 01.25.07 # it's Aladdin ;) 01.25.14 # J00: works fine 01.25.30 # mid: mp2 is used on DAB digital radio and DVB digital TV in Europe 01.25.40 # i mean, why cant you try it yourself? 01.25.44 # no archos? 01.25.53 # yup :) 01.25.58 # I need one that plays mp2 01.26.21 # well the archos is just fine for that! 01.26.28 # indeed, not many are 01.27.49 # anyone know if archos are coming out with new recorders? 01.28.06 # highly doubted 01.28.10 # would be neat 01.28.13 # but highly doubted 01.28.23 # not even a larger disk? 01.28.28 # i wouldn't mind having one with the new 1.8 drives 01.28.41 # if i could get my hands on one of those neuros, it would be intersting 01.29.08 # I'll get one now, just wanted to check if they were going to revise them 01.29.13 # mt 01.29.17 # i wonder how far their open source mantra extends, whether they would give me technical information to port rockbox 01.29.18 # neuros doesn't play mp2 01.29.28 # did you post your idea thing 01.29.33 # thats :cool: i dont either 01.29.34 # gotta go 01.29.37 Quit diddystar5 ("Gotta go") 01.29.40 # im still typing it 01.29.43 # the have a proprietary DSP supplier, not sure how much is open 01.29.44 # psh 01.30.23 # if you ask about something DSP related they say it's dependent on their vendor and they can't change shit about 01.31.44 # they gave xiph information about their DSP 01.31.50 # so, are you sure? 01.32.01 # CLAM DOWN 01.33.04 # is that like black hawk down? 01.33.12 # i dunno 01.33.18 # "No, I don't see a long term plan to add this support from our DSP 01.33.18 # vendor. MP2 simply is not one of their targets. 01.33.19 # " 01.33.23 # MT: i've been talking on their forum since they announced it. so far all i've heard is plans for some sort of scripting sdk 01.33.31 # Michael Gao 01.34.14 # also the Texas Instruments DSP they are using has no open source tools. the basic toolset is $600 per user... 01.34.31 # "open" is a nice catch phrase 01.35.17 # zagor 01.35.23 # but some companies aren't that so ;) 01.35.24 # why did you choose the archos in the first place? 01.35.44 # just cause you had one and wanted to mess with it? 01.35.52 # or for a specific reason? 01.36.00 # i tried to buy the compaq pjb100 first, but couldn't get my hands on it in sweden 01.36.22 # blocky thing 01.36.26 # the archos was simply the first available model 01.37.06 # and you got that? 01.37.07 # a shame you cant have seen them solder first :/ 01.37.15 # hehe 01.37.21 # and just decided to try to write a new firmware for it/ 01.37.22 # ? 01.37.27 # anyone want to try another sample? plz 01.37.30 # http://82.37.190.176/hd/ac3/ 01.37.42 # how big? 01.37.42 # the 'BBC Radio 2.mp2' one 01.37.46 # 518k 01.37.55 # i guess 01.38.00 # mid: just a bit smaller than your 640k BMP's ;) 01.38.10 # lol 01.38.34 # the first one was off DVB, this is from DAB 01.38.40 # ok wait 01.38.51 # bbc radio 2 01.38.53 # message->sent 01.38.59 # k 01.40.17 # i dont see it yet 01.40.30 # alt + refresh 01.40.38 # (or is it ctrl?) 01.40.46 # cctrl i think 01.40.51 # but just gotta wait a sec 01.41.22 # no worries 01.41.26 # shift 01.41.44 # CALM DOWN 01.41.53 # yeah, just press shift + ctrl + alt + f5 01.41.59 # yeah 01.42.02 # best of all worlds 01.42.17 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr) 01.42.21 # still not 01.42.23 # hi bod 01.42.35 # re 01.42.53 # mid: hrm, do it a couple of times 01.43.33 # oo 01.43.39 # forget the neuros 01.43.47 # its not a usb mass storage device 01.43.55 # thats just silly 01.44.08 # it is 01.44.09 # retard 01.44.13 # also the price of the device doesn't include the HD 01.44.14 # i dont see it yet 01.44.19 # so it adds up a bit 01.44.37 # FINALLY 01.44.38 # its there 01.44.39 # not according to an email i just for from plugh 01.44.49 # plugh? 01.44.53 # never trust that guy 01.44.58 # they probably blundle it 01.45.24 # I'm not to be trusted 01.45.30 # right 01.45.52 # yeah MT 01.45.54 # get on it 01.46.05 # does he have Saddam living in his cellar? 01.46.06 # you've got my email? 01.46.10 # i ahvent even got it yet! 01.46.14 # i got it 01.46.26 # I didn't say the nuros wasn't a USB mass storage device 01.46.48 # I just differentiated between a MSD and a db filesystem 01.46.54 # you also said that about Lord Lucan 01.47.07 # right 01.47.22 # but you also said the neuros was a db filesystem 01.47.32 # no 01.47.32 # boys! boys! 01.47.34 # no, I didn't say that 01.47.38 # you didnt, but someone else did 01.47.39 # :) 01.47.55 # * MT cancels downloads, reads neuros website 01.48.42 # hm 01.49.10 # mid: does it play? 01.49.17 # looking for it 01.49.23 # it seems to have disappeared 01.49.38 # ensure the file extension remains as .mp2, sometimes it gets renamed 01.49.44 # yeah 01.49.46 # crap 01.49.48 # let me look 01.50.08 # maybe it's hiding Plugh's cellar along with Saddam 01.50.13 # yeah 01.50.20 # hmm, i see 01.50.22 # i want a picture of plugh's cellar 01.50.44 # their idea of open source is just the parts that interact with your own computer 01.50.51 # the firmware seems quite closed source 01.50.55 # My house is raised above ground. No cellar 01.50.57 # http://www.bath.ac.uk/~su3ws/archive/cellar.jpg 01.51.08 # that's what you like people to think 01.51.22 # lol 01.51.23 # I wish my cellar looked like that j00 01.51.35 # hush little pluggy 01.51.43 # ahh, so you admit you have a cellar! 01.51.49 # I do have about 30 bottles of wine 01.51.53 # you mean it looks more like this - http://www.intowine.com/images/cellar.jpg 01.51.54 # ? 01.51.55 # but they're all above ground 01.51.56 Quit BoD[] (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 01.52.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.52.21 # note the guy with the long beard 01.52.35 # lol 01.52.36 # anyway, where am I 01.52.40 # ok transferred 01.52.43 # now to test 01.53.23 # i love the way rockbox won't spin the disk down if i'm moving the cursor in the dir browser 01.53.42 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr) 01.54.06 # it works great 01.54.16 # i still havent had my email 01.54.19 # come fly with me baby, that's smooth 01.54.29 # what a bitchin player 01.54.46 # no problems 01.55.01 # thanks for trying it out 01.55.04 # np 01.55.07 # sounds good 01.55.35 # DAB usually sounds horrible because it's 128k, digital satellite is nicer 01.55.50 # i meant it sounds as good as it ever will 01.56.00 # oh yeah, it doesn't sound bad 01.56.10 # you arent getting it 01.56.17 # i meant, it works without flaws 01.56.28 # straightforward as possible, right there 01.56.31 # ;) 01.56.46 # I'm too quality concious 01.57.09 # you are indied 01.57.40 # I shall get an archos and sit listening to Orbital, and the world will be good 01.57.48 # and yur both gud spelurs 01.58.05 # plugh isnt a good speeler 01.58.26 # you're right. I suck... when asked nicely 01.58.27 # yes, my headmaster would whip my ass.. err arse, if he saw me now 01.59.01 # plugh hasn't whipped out any good verbal kung-fu lately 01.59.05 # he must be dead 01.59.07 # what happened 01.59.13 # not dead. Just stoned 01.59.15 # or broken or something. 01.59.23 # PLUGH'S BUSTED 01.59.25 # ATTN 01.59.26 # PLUGH'S BUSTED 01.59.36 # busted? 01.59.42 # er 01.59.43 # yeah 01.59.44 # wtf you talking about? 01.59.51 # like a tv is then you tap it with a hammer 01.59.57 # anyway, you msut hvae seen that thing on /. about being able to raed things even if the wrods are out of oredr 02.00.04 # or like a stereo is if you throw it out the window 02.00.08 # busted 02.00.13 # I have a doctor prescription for THC 02.00.19 # thc? 02.00.30 # active ingredient in marijuana 02.00.40 # why? 02.01.04 # http://mdma.net/structure/mdma.jpg 02.01.09 # makes a good painkiller for chronic tendonitis, arthritis, and carpal tunnel syndrome 02.01.22 # that's a structure I know VERY well j00 02.01.31 # SSSSSSHHH 02.01.35 # the pluggs are coming 02.01.50 # note the active ingredient 02.02.16 # apparently it doesn't fuck you up these now 02.02.16 # carbon? 02.02.18 # :) 02.02.54 # they fucked up the experiments and gave the monkey's heroin 02.03.10 # I heard about that 02.03.12 # be back in a bit 02.03.13 # some died, they blamed the E 02.03.13 # but it was speed 02.03.16 # not heroin 02.03.17 Nick midknight2k3 is now known as midk-backin20 (LaLaLaLaLa@AC8C2F94.ipt.aol.com) 02.03.29 # ahh, monkeys on speed 02.03.32 # that was kinda fucked 02.03.33 Nick midk-backin20 is now known as midk-BackIn20 (LaLaLaLaLa@AC8C2F94.ipt.aol.com) 02.04.05 # http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1040327,00.html 02.04.22 # unfortunately, a lot of what gets passed off as E is really speed and acid 02.04.32 # cuz that's cheaper and has a similar effect 02.04.44 # but the E I get is usually pretty pure 02.04.58 # lol, shussuh 02.05.12 # quality control, tis important 02.05.25 # test kits > * 02.05.47 # :) 02.05.58 # I reakon E is just a conspiracy to sell more Evian 02.06.06 # but some morons throw a little MDMA in the mix to turn the test kits blue 02.06.09 # look at the name, it's a give away 02.06.22 # trying to fool them. And it works 02.06.23 # damn 02.06.24 # fuckers 02.06.36 # that could really fuck people up 02.06.55 # well, not really actually 02.07.11 # weird shit can really affect some people 02.07.13 # but it's not the trip they were paying for 02.08.04 # someone pays $20 for a pill with about $3 worth of stuff in it and gets an edgy weird trip 02.08.06 # that's just wrong 02.09.13 # yeah, it gives it all a bad tone 02.09.44 # * J00 is listen to some cool mixes from Tromsø 02.10.34 # I went to a nice electronic music campout last weekend 02.10.46 # it was all ambient/downtempo 02.10.53 # 350 ppl 02.10.57 # the mid-night sun really fucks with their mind in that place 02.11.13 # ahh, sounds like the Big Chill 02.11.21 # Chillits actually 02.11.37 # in Mendocino County 02.11.52 # Big Chill is held in the grounds of Eastnor Castle, very smooth 02.12.01 # sounds nice 02.12.06 # there's a winter chill coming up ;) 02.12.24 # like burning man with grass 02.12.28 # this is held in an organic terraced garden in the mountains 02.12.40 # heh, smooth 02.12.54 # we also do a dance party there every year 02.13.05 # techno, breaks, d&b... 02.13.24 # some electro, hardcore, live PA 02.13.41 # * J00 digs out some High Contrast 02.14.24 # in Tromsø the mid night sun drove all the youths mad, so they rioted, lol 02.14.41 # http://www.cloudfactory.org/music/ 02.14.50 # check that for chillits sets 02.15.02 # so they decided to build them some studios and a radio station, and now there's some really smooth music from there 02.16.08 # Tiesto and Royksopp came from there apparently 02.16.45 # lol, smooth photos 02.16.47 # http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A1138411 02.17.57 # http://www.bpm.ai/gallery/albun40/aad 02.18.06 # thought that was northern lights ^ 02.18.21 # just canabis 02.19.57 # heh. I know bpm.ai :) 02.20.58 # oh. kickass 02.21.03 # that's Sameer's gallery 02.21.06 # do you know him? 02.22.04 # nah :/ 02.22.09 # D&B show is on :) 02.22.32 # http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/urban/fabandgroove/ 02.22.42 # well, that pic was from Chillits 2000. The space I was just telling you about 02.22.58 # what are the batteries like in the archos, how long do they last? 02.23.08 # NiMH batteries 02.23.13 # yeah, saw it was a while back 02.23.28 # depends on a few variables, but generally get about 8-10 hours on a charge 02.23.31 # I have NiMH AA's about 02.23.36 # that's pretty damn good 02.23.47 # I have an FMR 02.24.00 # it has built-in 2200mah batteries 02.24.14 # but they're non-removeable and non-replaceable 02.24.53 # NiMH's are usually about 1300 each 02.25.04 # you can get 2200s easily enough 02.25.15 # I think the ones that come with it are 1800 02.25.26 # woah 02.25.33 # they're good for about 6 hours 02.25.45 # this is in the jukeboxes 02.25.48 # some come with li-ion usually used in celluar phones 02.25.55 Quit midk-BackIn20 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02.26.05 # I was looking at a Neo Jubebox for a while 02.26.18 # ,oodPPY8oo._ _,oo8PPP8ooo._ 02.26.18 # ,dPP'' '"YP8oooo8PP"'' '`"PPP8oop 02.26.56 # damn bod 02.26.59 # it's like 4 hr life 02.27.04 # ain't you got nothing better to do? 02.27.06 # what 02.27.07 # :))) 02.27.14 # actually 02.27.22 # not really 02.28.11 # 2200mAH, $5 each 02.28.15 # not bad 02.28.21 # how long do those go for? 02.28.33 # should get 10 hours out of em 02.28.42 # maybe 8 02.28.51 # woah 02.28.52 # really depends on your music collection 02.29.15 # if you do low-bitrate stuff, like audio books, you can get 12 easily 02.29.34 # probably 192k stuff 02.29.40 # ah 02.29.43 # I have some books about like that though 02.29.48 # perhaps 8 or 9 02.30.09 # bound to stick some radio drama on mine 02.30.47 # that's low-bitrate and long tracks 02.31.01 # you can get some good play time out of those 02.31.27 # another trick using the rockbox is to open a static screen like the f2 or f3 menu 02.31.47 # if your box isn't doing screen updates, it can stay running for much longer 02.31.48 # what does that do, stop the scrolling? 02.32.06 # it just puts up a menu 02.32.15 # that has no screen updates at all 02.32.31 # cuts down on the cpu cycles 02.32.37 # exactly 02.33.26 # as for the drama, I have a 2hr 40m version of Parade's End at 192kbps 02.33.37 # loads of stuff like that :/ 02.35.03 # radio has some cool stuff 02.35.17 # look into the FMR then 02.35.19 # it's like the polar opposite of 24/7 MTV at times 02.35.29 # it does FM recording 02.36.04 # mine was US$279 02.36.05 # heh, I spit on FM, the raw mp2's from DAB or DVB are the way to go ;) 02.36.21 # suit yourself :) 02.36.28 # but I'm getting the recorder anyway for usb2 02.36.31 Quit BoD[] (Excess Flood) 02.36.49 # if you don't need FM, don't buy the FMR 02.36.54 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr) 02.37.07 # hrm, the others are usb1 though? 02.37.07 # the non-replaceable battery is NOT a good thing 02.37.12 # bugger 02.37.17 # no. All the recorders are 2.0 02.37.18 # didn't know that 02.37.49 # well, look on the packaging for the 2.0 sticker 02.38.16 # http://www.archos.com/products/prw_500279_specs.html ? 02.38.47 # that's what you're looking for 02.38.58 # what's the $279 one? 02.39.12 # has FM playing and recording 02.39.27 # and the internal non-changeable battery 02.39.29 # only see the ONDIO 02.39.34 # bed time. buy guys! 02.39.38 # cya 02.39.39 # oh. FM Recorder 02.39.40 # bye even :-) 02.39.42 Quit Zagor ("Client exiting") 02.40.27 # http://www.archos.com/products/fam_mp3_music.html?sid=j22o2fj2b2joc3sb3ojkfy 02.40.32 # it's listed on there 02.40.48 # yeah, the one I mentioned above is $289 02.40.52 # but they don't seem to show details 02.41.01 # I got mine at a discount dealer 02.41.06 # it's just that the Euro price is fucking loaded to E399 02.41.24 # E1 ~= $1 02.41.37 # hehe 02.42.32 # found one for $325 02.42.53 # not too bad 02.43.17 # ahh, it's $277 us 02.43.28 # so that's about in line 02.43.37 # JB Studio 20? 02.43.40 # BUT the $325 is including 17.5% tax 02.43.44 # http://www.savastore.com/products/product.asp?catalog_name=Savastore&product_id=10268428&pid=45&tid=3 02.43.53 # * J00 fucking tax 02.44.12 # that's what you're looking for 02.45.10 # yeah, £210 02.45.38 # if my FMR dies, I'll probably get one of those 02.45.43 # I can manage that... after doing over a couple of banks ;) 02.46.02 # the only bad thing about Archos is their piss-poor quality control 02.46.09 # http://uk.pixmania.com/dev/gui_web/shopping/?fuseaction=voir_fiche_article&article=20499&langue=uk&dealtime=1 02.46.12 # what's that ^ 02.46.19 # they tend to break 02.46.23 # ekk 02.46.32 # buttons snap off and fall in, hard drives die... 02.46.42 # lol, ouch 02.46.49 # oh well, touch wood 02.46.53 # the FMR batteries tend to swell and crack the screen 02.47.04 # they have a comprehensive 1yr warranty 02.47.16 # lol... heh, that's the exploding batteries I saw in passing 02.47.26 # that's it 02.47.33 # this Stuido 20 thing has 2 yr warrenty 02.47.44 # .. I think 02.48.07 # the previous link said 1 02.48.13 # and mine has a 1 yr 02.48.15 # what's the diff between the "ARCHOS Jukebox Recorder 20" and "Archos Jukebox Studio 20 MP3 Player" 02.48.36 # recorder has line in and a microphone 02.48.55 # and the "studio"? 02.49.01 # and a lot of the players don't have USB 2.0 02.49.22 # "Lithium battery (pre installed) " 02.49.23 # hrm 02.49.55 # I think the "Jukebox Recorder 20" is the job 02.50.04 # I think so too 02.50.13 # like I said, it's what I'd get next time 02.50.21 # not that I don't adore my FMR 02.50.39 # I love it. But I'm afraid of my batteries exploding 02.50.40 # and it's exploding batteries? :) 02.50.43 # lol 02.50.47 # beat me to it 02.50.49 # hasn't happened yet 02.50.57 Join k3no [0] (trilluser@80.178.32.215.forward.012.net.il) 02.51.00 # knock HARD on wood 02.51.02 # the anticipation 02.51.25 Quit k3no (Client Quit) 02.51.35 # the AV things look mad 02.51.49 # but I wouldn't trust myself with £500 worth of kit 02.51.56 # I'd leave it on the train 02.53.22 # hrm, lol, my new Archos will have more capacity than my notebook 02.53.45 # mine has the same 02.53.49 # as my laptop 02.53.53 # how do you fill that 02.53.59 # my desktops have 60 and 120gig 02.54.04 # easily 02.54.07 # heh 02.54.10 # I said the same about the 210meg drive in my 486 02.54.19 # yeah, easier than you think 02.54.21 # I want to get a 60gig drive in mine 02.54.34 # '20gig ought to be enough for everybody' 02.54.38 # nope 02.54.44 # not even hardly 02.54.55 # I knew when I got it that it'd be full in 2 days 02.55.03 # 640k memory was enough for everybody.. err 02.55.43 # I have 11 hours of War & Peace at 192k, that would help do the job 02.56.35 # 192k audio book is crack smoking 02.56.45 # damn, the Recorder 20gig goes for $250 in the US 02.56.50 # it's drama, I think 02.57.02 # you can't tell the difference between 192k stereo and 64k mono with audio books 02.57.20 # high quality stereo is great for drama, Swedish Radio sent out their stuff on satellite at 640kbps Dolby Digital 5.1 02.57.27 # and 1.5Mbps DTS 02.57.57 # in germany they only have 448kbps DD5.1 ;) 02.58.03 # human voice only is pretty low bandwidth 02.58.17 # sounds amazing on a surround set up 02.58.25 # you don't need a lot of bitrate 02.58.25 # for narration yes 02.58.42 Join Sethians [0] (dje@dialup-200-105-130-77.acelerate.com) 02.58.53 # but drama has all sorts of affects, they have to convey stuff like a film soundtrack without the benefit of picutres 02.59.10 # well, I'm gonna leave work now 02.59.16 # lol, ok ;) 02.59.19 # I'll be back here on Monday 02.59.28 # sure, I might have my player by then 02.59.28 # or I might drop in 02.59.35 # thanks for all your help 02.59.50 # not a prob at all 02.59.53 # & 03.00.10 # ok, have a good time at work ;) 03.00.14 # take care 03.03.05 # night all! 03.24.24 Quit Sethians () 03.33.18 Quit Malphas__ ("Preparing subject to return IRL .... CLACK") 03.37.30 Quit adi|home (Connection timed out) 03.40.14 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-10.216-194-24-37.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 03.49.30 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@mail.nucoretech.com) 03.49.49 # New to rockbox, need help 03.50.10 # hello 03.51.36 # hi 03.52.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.52.30 # I just downloaded rockbox to my Juke box record 10, but it doesn't play 03.53.03 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03.53.04 # when I press Play on an item it just displays to play icon, but no sound and nothing else 03.54.48 # hello??? 03.55.55 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 03.56.52 # can anyone see me? 03.56.58 # i see you 03.57.03 # but i'm sorry i can't help 03.57.25 # Can someone help me on the JBR10? 03.57.50 Join midk-BackIn20 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC94DE5F.ipt.aol.com) 03.57.59 Nick midk-BackIn20 is now known as midknight2k3 (LaLaLaLaLa@AC94DE5F.ipt.aol.com) 04.04.32 Quit BoD[] ("TCL 4EVA") 04.04.59 # What is the purpose of the channel? Meditating? 04.05.09 # well 04.05.17 # sticking around if someone has a question or just chatting 04.05.27 # or in case someone interrupts the silence like you 04.06.07 # I had a question, but why no one is answering me? Buddha? 04.06.17 # what is it? 04.06.21 # i wasn't here 04.06.27 # plugh prolly pushed you around 04.06.32 # * midknight2k3 harasses Plugh 04.06.57 # I just download rockbox to my jbr10, hit play and got almost a blank screen, and no sound 04.07.16 # hm 04.07.23 # using what version? 04.07.41 # Then I fumbled on the create playlist, then I can play? Why? Latest version 04.07.59 # huh 04.08.01 # ok 04.08.09 # latest meaning daily build or 2.0? 04.08.38 # The original firmware let user plays right away. no need to vreate any playlist 04.08.46 # Version 2.0, right on the web site 04.08.51 # you dont need to create a playlis 04.08.56 # ok 04.08.58 Quit _aLF (Remote closed the connection) 04.08.59 # got it for a recorder? 04.09.25 # reboot it and what exactly happens? 04.09.28 # why does it matter for recording or not? 04.09.48 # what are you TALKING about 04.09.54 # you need the version for the recorder 04.10.01 # not the player or fm recorder version 04.10.03 # it does matter 04.10.15 # recorders get plugins, games, demos, and fonts 04.10.17 # to start 04.10.31 # Mon the website: it says rockbox-2.0-recorder.zip os for the recorder 04.10.39 # sure 04.10.44 # reboot 04.10.47 # what happens 04.11.26 # it plays now, but why do I have to create a playlist before I can Play? The oiginal firmware on Archos let me play right away 04.11.33 # you don't! 04.11.45 # if you tell me what happens, i might be able to help 04.12.04 # if you keep talking of why does it matter for recorder and creating playlists, i can't. 04.12.51 # OK, sir, here my travail: after I unzipped the os to my JBR10, I got the OS running with the full menu 04.13.08 # full menu? 04.13.43 # Then when I selected the playlist and hit paly ( the middle button) it display the play icon( right arrow) but no title and no sound 04.13.57 # is your jukebox empty? 04.14.30 # or does it have folders and files 04.14.37 # I have been playing with the original firmware for days, so my jukebook is brimming with juice, it is not empty 04.14.46 # neat 04.14.53 # so rockbox says its empty? 04.15.37 # it displays the folders, and files but when i hit play it doesn't display anything and no sound 04.15.47 # give it a second 04.15.52 # the hard drive needs to spin up 04.16.02 # does it have full battery? 04.16.34 # Guest: i'm assuming you're pressing PLAY on an mp3? 04.16.45 # Guest: are you sure the mp3 is valid? 04.16.50 # hardeep can take over 04.16.57 # it is playing now, only sfter I force it to create the playlist 04.17.30 # which I didn't have to do with the original firmware 04.17.31 # Guest: after creating the playlist, did you PLAY that? 04.18.06 # Guest: you don't need to create a playlist to play tracks... if you do, there's a bug in the rockbox firmware that needs to be fixed 04.18.11 # hardeep: after create the playlist, it does play 04.18.36 # Guest: what file did you select to play after you created the playlist? 04.18.42 # Guest: the playlist file or the mp3 file? 04.18.57 # the mp3 file 04.19.14 # Guest: so, before creating the playlist, selecting play on the mp3 file failed? 04.19.25 # Guest: but after you created it, everything starting working correctly? 04.19.43 # Guest: BTW, I'm assuming you created the playlist from Menu->Create Playlist? 04.19.49 # er 04.19.52 # yes indeed, failed first then play when I hit the Create playlist 04.19.58 # that's Menu->Playlist Options -> Creat Playlist 04.20.07 # hardeep you are right on 04.20.10 # oh 04.20.10 # midknight2k3: not in 2.0 04.20.13 # unless you use 2.0 04.20.14 # yeah 04.20.48 # Guest: i haven't heard of that bug before... were you trying to play the same mp3 both before and after? 04.21.43 # Hardeep: it seems it didn't see the tracks before the playlist is created 04.22.25 # Guest: a playlist is not necessary to play the tracks 04.22.50 # is there a reson to address every message? we know you're not taling to me ;) 04.23.01 # then why when I selected the track and hit play it doesn't play? 04.23.11 # Guest: did you see any activity on the red LED when you first tried to play? 04.23.23 # midknight2k3: many IRC clients highlight messages if addressed to you 04.23.32 # midknight2k3: mine does for instance... easier to track 04.23.46 # i suppose 04.23.46 # the red led did come on briefly 04.23.54 # but still 04.24.02 # i like the exit lines for bitchx 04.24.04 # Guest: and this was the first time you ever played something on rockbox? 04.24.30 # yes indeed the very first time 04.24.46 # a rockbox virgin :) 04.24.56 # Guest: okay, my guess is that it was just taking a long time to create a temporary file it needs to start playing tracks 04.25.19 # Guest: it was probably scanning the hard drive trying to find a free cluster 04.25.25 # .playlist_control and .queue_file i think 04.25.33 # .queue_file for 2.0 04.25.41 # ok let me start an experiment: let remove the battery and reinsect to see what happens 04.25.52 # that wont delete teh file 04.25.56 # Guest: sure, and you can go ahead and delete the playlist file 04.26.13 # Guest: and /.rockbox/.queue_file 04.26.32 # Guest: how full is your hard drive? 04.26.33 # if i deleted it what happens? 04.26.49 # 5Gb full 04.27.11 # Guest: nothing, the playlist file is not necessary to play tracks and the .queue_file will be recreated (it gets created every time you begin playing a track/playlist) 04.27.23 # Guest: what's the total size of your jukebox? 04.27.27 # hard drive that is 04.27.44 # 10gb 04.27.46 # Hitachi 10Gb it says 04.27.54 # jbr10 04.28.19 # Guest: well, give it a try again and see what happens 04.28.47 # how do i delete within rockbox? 04.29.10 # F2-show files (press down to select "all") 04.29.19 # then f2 again 04.29.25 # it will display .rockbox 04.31.11 # like a virgin I don't know what you are talking about 04.31.24 # f2? where, what button? 04.31.34 # press the middle button under the screen 04.31.40 # F1, F2 and F3 respectively 04.32.01 # it shaw shuffle repeat and show files 04.32.04 # (i am just about to start work on my patch) 04.32.09 # on what patch mt 04.32.12 # ok 04.32.16 # guest 04.32.31 # press the show files arrow (it's down i think" to select "all" 04.32.40 # having spent 3 and a half hours getting xdmcp to work so i can actually use the sim 04.33.11 # lol 04.33.17 # so you can test progress? 04.33.54 # it toggles back to the menu 04.34.13 # on the lcd 04.34.19 # there is a right, down and left arrow right 04.34.22 # when you press f2 04.36.22 # ok how do i delete it 04.36.33 # set the all files view? 04.36.59 # go into .rockbox and look for ".queue_file" 04.37.12 # i see it, how can i delete it 04.37.19 # highlight it 04.37.27 # or, in your case, "point" to it 04.37.33 # hold ON and press PLAY 04.37.37 # and press DELETE 04.37.45 # on screen option' 04.40.29 # gotta go 04.40.31 Quit hardeep ("[BX] 2002: year of the BitchX") 04.46.08 Quit Guest ("Leaving") 04.55.06 # plugh 04.55.20 # some guy did a bad flash 04.55.31 # oh? 04.55.36 # yeah 04.55.48 # what happened 04.55.50 # he wants to pay someone do mod and fix his recorder 04.55.54 # didnt say 04.56.12 # this stoopid menu crap 04.56.16 # wont go together 04.56.28 # i was gonna ask but i figure jörg would be more interested and do a better job of asking anyway 04.56.49 # ask what 04.56.51 # how it happened 04.57.25 # looks like a kind poor little guy 04.58.47 # re you "scott" on the mailinglists? 04.58.59 # or not 04.59.29 # > > are using rockbox 2.0 or earlier. You really do *not* want to use the 04.59.29 # > > Archos firmware. =) 04.59.29 # > 04.59.29 DBUG Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 04.59.29 # > but even if you did, all you have to do is delete the rockbox .ajz, the 04.59.29 # archos firmware is stored 04.59.29 *** Alert Mode level 1 04.59.29 # > on the flash rom (but that can be fixed). 04.59.31 # > 04.59.33 # > -scott 04.59.41 # i like the "but that can be fixed" part 05.03.59 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.04.00 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.04.00 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.04.49 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.04.50 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.04.53 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.06.23 # uh 05.06.25 # hi 05.06.26 # bye 05.06.28 # hi 05.06.32 # nick change 05.06.35 # bye 05.06.35 # hi 05.08.09 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.08.31 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.08.32 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.09.30 *** Alert Mode OFF 05.10.13 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.10.14 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.10.17 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.15.28 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.15.28 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.15.32 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.16.44 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.16.45 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.16.49 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.21.18 # having problems elinenbe 05.21.24 # *? 05.21.30 # lol 05.21.31 # scott 05.21.33 # do something funny 05.21.50 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 05.21.50 # * scott666 spontaneously combusts * 05.22.16 # good enough 05.24.39 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.24.39 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.24.43 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.28.41 # bye 05.28.42 # PLUG 05.28.45 # and scot 05.28.50 Quit midknight2k3 () 05.29.22 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05.29.23 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.30.44 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.30.45 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.30.48 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.45.44 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.45.44 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.45.48 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.49.44 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.49.44 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.49.48 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.52.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.56.09 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 05.56.09 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05.56.13 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.04.15 Join __dinner [0] (~f1@CPE0000b48c64d2-CM.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 06.04.15 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.04.23 Join elinenbe [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.04.24 Nick __dinner is now known as Gerald (~f1@CPE0000b48c64d2-CM.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 06.04.27 # hello 06.05.04 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.05.04 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.05.09 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.07.19 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.07.20 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.07.23 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.11.44 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.11.44 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.11.46 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.22.04 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.22.05 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.22.08 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.26.32 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.26.33 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.26.36 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.30.19 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.30.19 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.30.23 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.31.59 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.31.59 Quit elinenbe (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06.32.03 Nick elinenbe_ is now known as elinenbe (~elinenbe@user-0cdfei6.cable.mindspring.com) 06.32.15 # will you stop fucking doing that? 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12.51.29 # oops, it's me :) 12.51.34 # (/etC/resolv.conf empty) 13.22.09 Join Quelsaruk [20] (~Swordmast@faerun.ugr.es) 13.22.19 # any swedish here? 13.37.29 Join dw|gone_ [20] (dwihno@h193180246067.kommunicera.umea.se) 13.37.29 Quit dw|gone (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13.49.33 Quit Quelsaruk ("KVIrc 3.0.0-beta1 "Eve's Avatar"") 13.52.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.11.55 # can someone tell me what is the clock frequency of a RECORDER ? 14.12.03 # it's 12mhz in a player but i need the freq of a recorder 14.22.17 Join Malphas__ [0] (~s@AOrleans-103-1-19-200.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) 14.29.14 Join knobby [0] (~knobby@gso26-201-245.triad.rr.com) 14.30.31 # anyone know how the languages are kept up? I mean if I add a patch into rockbox that requires a new line in a language file, what do the files without that line do? Is there a utility to check the language files and determine unused or missing translations? 14.36.00 Quit adiamas (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14.50.51 Quit J00 () 15.35.51 Join adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-11.216-194-24-234.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 15.51.29 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-66-41-171-170.mn.client2.attbi.com) 15.52.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.34.01 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 16.34.21 # uski: 11.0592 MHz 16.34.26 Part LinusN 16.52.39 # thanks LinusN :) 16.59.59 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@ACA0A2D8.ipt.aol.com) 17.00.10 # yawn 17.03.22 # hi 17.03.28 # hi 17.03.29 # morning 17.05.52 # it's 17:07 here ;P 17.06.02 # where are you from ? 17.06.13 # in seattle,wa right now 17.11.23 Join diddystar5 [0] (diddystar5@AC872257.ipt.aol.com) 17.12.36 # hi diddy 17.16.01 # ok midknight2k3 :) 17.16.05 # hi diddystar5 17.16.11 # hi 17.16.13 # hello uski 17.16.35 # wow midknight2k3, it's early in the us 17.16.42 # 8:16 17.16.47 # at 8 o'clock this morning i was sleeping 17.16.53 # i'm used to it 17.17.04 # i get up at 6-6:20 fro school anyways 17.17.09 # so am i 17.17.20 # i tried to stay up past 10:30 pm last night but i fell asleep 17.17.21 # i have to get up at 730 to get ready for schoool 17.17.35 # heh i stayed up till 1130 17.17.38 # over summer i could have stayed up till 5 or so 17.17.44 # i couldnt 17.17.47 # i wanted to 17.17.50 # but i couldnt 17.17.52 # i was wiped 17.17.55 # from waking up 17.18.32 # heh 17.18.40 # each morning i get up at 06:25 for school 17.18.44 # my school dosen't start until 9:00am! 17.18.54 # wow 17.18.56 # and gets out at 3:30 17.18.59 # here it starts at 08:00 17.19.04 # and i end at 18:00 !!! 17.19.05 # here at 7:45 17.19.08 # i win! 17.19.12 # yea lol 17.23.18 # no i win! i don't have to go until 9 17.23.29 # i have to go earliest 17.23.36 # uski is dumb because he goes in the middle 17.23.42 # but cool because he goes almost my time 17.23.43 # :) 17.23.48 # so i have to go the lastest 17.23.51 # yea but i stop a lot later than you 17.23.54 # 18:00... 17.24.01 # lets see 17.24.04 # that's.. 17.24.10 # 6:00 in real time? 17.24.12 # 4 17.24.13 # pah 17.24.18 # how do you live 17.24.30 # its 6 17.24.30 # 12:00 + 6:00 17.24.30 # is 18:00 17.24.44 # hehe whatever 17.25.03 # lol 17.25.08 # simple math 17.25.18 # i suppose you've learned what math is? 17.25.25 # like 1+1=2 17.26.13 # im in algebra 2 and i was in pre algebra last year kinda weird 17.27.16 # midknight2k3: what grade are you in? 17.27.38 # eighth 17.27.45 # it's ninth grade math either way 17.27.59 # im in 8th also 17.28.14 # seriously? 17.28.16 # naw 17.28.43 # hell yes 17.29.00 # at least now i know i'm not the youngest one here 17.29.02 # or 17.29.04 # 8th ? what is it ? how old are you ? 17.29.10 # actually 17.29.11 # i may be 17.29.14 # 13 17.29.20 # im 13 also 17.29.33 # no way 17.29.38 # youre such a joker 17.29.49 # no i ain't 17.30.01 # 13 ? you're too young to be here 17.30.01 # that's pretty interesting 17.30.02 # go away ! 17.30.16 # there's an age restriction? 17.30.16 # haven't you seen the warning ? "only adults here" 17.30.18 # march you? 17.30.23 # ;) 17.30.25 # may 17.30.28 # 2 months older 17.30.30 # i knew it 17.30.47 # haha i win im older 17.31.22 # yeah 17.32.19 # uski: are you german? 17.32.27 # diddystar5: im french 17.33.12 # uski: ok 17.33.18 # lol 17.33.27 # "im french" [big silence] "ok" 17.33.39 # hehe 17.34.34 # i was curious since you didn't know what 8th meant 17.34.40 # :) 17.34.49 # oh lol 17.34.52 # in the us are schools are in grades 17.34.58 # like 8th grade... 17.34.59 # yeah... 17.35.02 # yea, same in franc;, but the numbers are different 17.35.04 # 1-12.. 17.35.25 # how many in france? 17.35.28 # if you are 13, you'd be in "4eme" 17.35.36 # i mean, how many in franc;? 17.35.42 # 4eme? 17.35.55 # well it is this: CP, CE1, CE2, CM1, CM2, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, "terminal" 17.36.06 # then you pass "the" big exam, the BAC 17.36.21 # then after this you can go to university, and so on 17.36.39 # compilcated 17.36.57 # yep 17.37.16 # nah it's quite simple 17.37.20 # if you speak french 17.37.25 # we go 1st to 12th then you go to university 17.37.27 # CP = Preparatory Class 17.37.33 # CE1 = Elementary Class 1 17.37.37 # CE2 = Elementary Class 2 17.37.44 # CM1 = Medium Class 1 17.37.48 # CM2 = Medium Class 2 17.37.53 # after this, 6 5 4 3 2 1 17.38.01 # then the last class, the "terminale" as we say 17.38.41 # yeh 17.38.42 # still 17.38.53 # i was thinking of using the archos to store my notes, so i can pass all exams mwehehee 17.39.03 # you put it in txt files then you read it 17.39.04 # harder than, "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12" 17.39.08 # yea 17.39.12 # heh 17.39.26 # dont rely on the calendar 17.39.37 # it loses your notes every time 17.39.42 # so unreliable 17.40.04 # heh 17.40.09 # midknight2k3: it's been fixed 17.40.31 # good 17.40.33 # dumb thing 17.41.15 # only one patch, diddy? 17.41.17 # gotta go 17.41.32 # bye 17.41.33 # huh? 17.41.36 # nothing 17.41.45 Part diddystar5 ("Client exiting") 17.43.46 Join k3no [0] (trilluser@80.178.33.83.forward.012.net.il) 17.52.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.05.23 Join dsg [0] (~david@a194-109-195-187.adsl.xs4all.nl) 18.09.25 # anyone here ? 18.09.32 # i am 18.09.46 # any idea of the way to add something into the wishlist of rockbox ? 18.09.56 # feature requests? 18.10.03 # yea 18.10.09 # rockbox.haxx.se, click on feature requests on sidebar, scroll to bottom 18.10.13 # what is the request? 18.10.38 # i think it would be interesting to have a "database mode" 18.10.49 # Id3 database? 18.10.55 # i.e. when you start the player, it goes through the hard drive and it makes a database of each song it finds 18.11.04 # so when you want to sleect az song it does not have to spinup the disk 18.11.07 # Id3 wise? 18.11.19 # yea or simply with the filename 18.11.22 # oh, that would take a lot of buffer 18.11.28 # not sure 18.11.36 # how many song can be stored on a 20gb drive ? 18.11.42 # 5000 ? 18.11.45 # 5000 presumable 18.11.50 # at 128kbps 18.12.00 # ok; artist+song = say 25 chars average 18.12.16 # 25*5000=125000 18.12.26 # 125000*8/1024=976kbits 18.12.36 # 976kbits? 18.12.37 # hmmm half the RAM of unmodified player 18.12.39 # kilobytes? 18.12.43 # lol 18.12.44 # no, kBITS 18.12.53 # i bet it's kbits in france 18.12.55 # BUt you can compress it 18.12.58 # here it's kilobytes 18.12.59 # no no 18.13.00 # sure 18.13.03 # noooo 18.13.04 # grrr 18.13.08 # 8 bits = 1 byte 18.13.14 # ok wahtever 18.13.15 # either way 18.13.20 # it won't happen i am sure 18.13.22 # you can do a patch for it 18.13.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK uski 18.13.31 # look the 1250004*8/1024 18.14.35 # yea but if i want to ask it is because i am not able to do such a patch 18.14.36 # (yet) 18.14.44 # ok 18.14.46 # but youre right, it would use too much ram 18.14.49 # it might be fun 18.15.04 # until it messeds up 18.15.07 # stoopid thing 18.15.18 # "recording_screen" first use in this function 18.15.20 # bla bla 18.15.23 # dumb thing 18.15.26 # JUST DO IT! 18.15.28 # sheesh' 18.20.03 # lol 18.21.36 # seriously 18.23.18 # argh 18.23.26 # i was doing a main menu redesign 18.23.34 # heh 18.23.37 # why ? :) 18.23.43 # sure, "recording_screen" works in main menu, but no way in settings_menu! 18.23.59 # HEAVEN FORBID IT FROM WORKING IN SETTINGS MENU 18.24.11 # even if the ifdef exists 18.24.15 # i need hardeep 18.25.22 # well 18.25.26 # its a bit cluttered 18.25.58 # just one thing i was going to do was move "recording settings" into "general settings->recording" 18.26.15 # but the DUMB THING is BUSTED or SOMETHING 18.26.34 # MT? 18.31.35 # haha 18.31.39 # what a stupid 18.31.47 # And there was a guy who intentionally flashed his FM while 18.31.47 # I had only Recorder support yet, but I don't count that. 18.31.47 # Jörg 18.44.32 # yea lol 18.44.36 # funny lol 18.44.52 # did you flash your uski? 19.03.16 # mk: you werent around when that happened? 19.03.25 # not that i know of 19.03.38 # i remember that, it was durring the first flash beta 19.03.45 # lol 19.03.49 # what happened 19.03.51 # he got a new one from best buy 19.03.52 # lol 19.03.55 # hahaha 19.03.57 # HAHAAH 19.04.00 # like i would have 19.04.09 # maybe it was me 19.04.46 # i just reflashed my fm 19.04.58 # why 19.05.05 # now i dont have to hold on to turn it on 19.05.08 # on fix? 19.05.09 # yeah 19.07.04 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 19.14.40 # hardeep 19.14.45 # who i wanted to ask 19.16.02 # who did you want to ask? 19.16.03 # So rockbox works from flash now? 19.16.09 # when i try to move the recording settings into general settings, i get an error when building. I kept the line from main_menu.c with the ifdef, and also i put the line up to, the ifdef have_masxxxx include recording.h. I get the error, 'recording_menu' first use in this fucction 19.16.15 # yes dsg 19.16.21 # dsg: on the recorder (including fm) models 19.16.26 # any ideas hardeep 19.16.29 # Ah, okay. Neat. :) 19.16.50 # you havent included the right header file 19.17.18 # any ideas... "around" it? 19.18.04 # midknight2k3: recording_menu is defined in sound_menu.h 19.18.14 # midknight2k3: that's what you need to include 19.18.31 # but main menu included that and settings menu didn't? 19.19.42 # i see 19.19.49 # let me compile this and see if it worls 19.19.49 # midknight2k3: yes, but it looks like you didn't 19.19.51 # works* 19.19.56 # i didnt 19.19.59 # i didnt know that 19.20.05 # i thought it was in recording.h 19.25.18 # ../tools/scramble -fm /home/rockbox/menupatch/build/rockbox.bin /home/rockbox/me 19.25.19 # nupatch/build/ajbrec.ajz 19.25.19 # make[1]: *** [/home/rockbox/menupatch/build/ajbrec.ajz] Error 255 19.25.19 DBUG Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 19.25.19 # make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/rockbox/menupatch/apps' 19.25.19 # make: *** [apps] Error 2 19.25.36 # oh wait 19.25.51 # ok i forgot to put in "scramble" 19.27.22 Join top_bloke [0] (Email@1Cust16.tnt5.chi15.da.uu.net) 19.28.44 # it works! 19.28.49 # thank you sooo much hardeep 19.29.02 # you've never failed to fix my problems 19.29.29 # hello bloke 19.29.35 # yo 19.30.30 # hardeep rocks 19.30.34 # if you didnt know 19.30.57 # i see 19.31.20 # the thing is 19.31.27 # my archos records the hard drive sounds when using an external mic... 19.31.39 # is that normal? 19.31.42 # move the mic away from the archos 19.31.46 # i did 19.31.51 # it was like 4 feet 19.32.02 # it still records a very small amount of it, yeah 19.32.05 # i put a pillow over it later 19.32.06 # i dunno if that can be fixed 19.32.12 # so normal? 19.32.16 # yeah 19.32.23 # FASAP 19.32.28 # fay-sapp 19.32.33 # fixed as soon as possible 19.32.45 # and here i thought using an ext mic would het rid of all the hd sounds 19.32.52 # get rid 19.32.52 # it should 19.32.56 # try the archos fw 19.33.04 # i dont think it does the sound crap 19.33.04 # wow 19.33.07 # The input is probably not shielded well enough. 19.33.19 # well i made the input myself... 19.33.31 # mine does it too 19.33.42 # I have this on my laptop -- if the volume is set high enough, and I'm not playing anything, I can hear sounds from the HD if I have headphones on. :) 19.33.48 # yeah 19.33.55 # thats true 19.34.18 # hardeep: if i wanted to make a new menu option (just say for now "Extras") would i make a new file, extras_menu.c? 19.34.20 # good point 19.35.17 # midknight2k3: yeah, a new file is probably best 19.35.32 # archo.. i mean, argh 19.35.36 # lol 19.35.42 # was about to say archos 19.35.55 # whenever i wanna say "rocks" i say rockbox 19.36.06 # even when i just typed rocks i almost typed rockbox 19.36.18 # as in 'that rockboxs!'? 19.36.27 # as in "that rockbox" 19.36.32 # lol 19.36.41 # rockbox 19.36.48 # i just tried to type rockbs 19.36.49 # rocks 19.36.51 # see 19.36.53 # its taking over 19.37.50 # so great 19.38.02 # and then i'd need to reference it to the new file 19.38.10 # and i need to do all the junk 19.52.22 *** No seen item changed, no save performed. 19.58.44 # i want a vu meter 19.58.54 # time for some 1337 on the peak meter 19.58.55 # lol 19.59.08 # time for some 1337-W0RK on the peak meter 20.33.57 Quit dsg ("foo-d") 20.33.58 Quit midknight2k3 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20.37.27 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 20.40.21 # I'm looking at the FM Recorder manual from Archos. In several places, it says it has a digital i/o port that's also analog in. It's true that there is no digital output? I have the older JBR 20. 20.43.32 # tpelliott: i don't have one but, as I understand it, there is an error in the manual... fmr doesn't have digital out 20.44.40 Join midknight2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC947B7A.ipt.aol.com) 20.46.40 # I wandwe why they removed it? Digital out is the perfect way to play mp3's through your home theater system. 20.46.54 # copyright reasons 20.47.01 # though the HFSCMSOFF function still works 20.48.14 # I wander if copywrite issues will end this type of device that allows free copying mp3's to and from the hard drive. 20.48.36 # nah 20.50.01 # Other devices allow coppying to and from the hard drive, but NOT mp3's that play on the unit (seperate partitions, I think).\ 20.50.17 # i hope they keep it as UMS 20.50.36 # UMS? 20.50.44 # usb mass storage 20.52.57 # That's one reason I decided to upgrade my JBR 20 to 60GB instead of looking for something new. 20.53.10 # yeah 20.55.52 # What I want, eventually, is something with a large display for pictures and movies, powerful processor, lots of memory, large hard drive and long battery life. With on screen editing, etc. That kind of functionality will take a few years. 20.56.10 # the AV340 comes closes 20.56.13 # closest 20.56.19 # except for on screen editing 20.56.23 # what do you mean by that 20.57.16 # Like Cool Edit. Touch screen operation like a PDA 20.57.36 # that's gonna take a while 20.57.44 # for now, get a palm and an av340 20.57.46 # there 20.58.07 # I'm just dreaming of the future :) 20.58.25 Join Galik [0] (~galik@195.137.124.20) 20.58.31 # i wish my future was now 20.59.25 # I've been ripping and adding CDs to my new 60 gig drive. I'm happy with that for now. 20.59.50 # yeah\ 21.05.13 Join Jared [0] (~ask@dialup-67.74.244.11.Dial1.Baltimore1.Level3.net) 21.42.13 Join midk2k3 [0] (LaLaLaLaLa@AC947B7A.ipt.aol.com) 21.42.18 Quit midk2k3 (Client Quit) 21.42.48 Quit tpelliott (Remote closed the connection) 21.42.50 Join tpelliott [0] (telliott@208.251.255.120) 21.46.53 Quit MT ("changing servers") 21.51.12 Join MT [0] (mt@no.beer.for.beating.me.uk) 21.52.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.52.45 # mt? 21.55.32 # you're not my real dad, i dont have to listen to you! 21.56.42 # sorry 22.04.03 Quit top_bloke ("wasted 3 hours 21 minutes and 52 seconds online") 22.10.40 Join top_bloke [0] (Email@1Cust16.tnt5.chi15.da.uu.net) 22.11.59 Quit k3no (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22.22.37 # mt? 22.25.29 Join Guest [0] (~jirc@ool-43544d26.dyn.optonline.net) 22.28.31 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 22.30.52 Part tpelliott 22.31.31 Join Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se) 22.34.19 # hi zagor 22.34.24 # hi 22.34.43 # i just got an idea of my menu redesign 22.45.31 # recording settings will be under "General Settings -> Recording" and also from F1 at record screen 22.45.32 # for one 22.47.30 # i was also planning an "extras" or "other options" menu 22.48.37 # tpvlnpc tpvld!! 22.51.26 # xshpt od divj s vtppl! 22.51.58 # that's secret code for"zagor is such a crook!" 22.52.09 # like you said when you chose rockbox over oracle or whatever 22.52.18 # haha 22.52.53 # brtu gimmu 22.52.58 # very funny 22.53.16 # i like my code 22.53.43 # do you think sound settings should be the first option? 22.53.58 # although we could have a "settings" menu with sound settings and all the other stuff 22.53.58 # yes 22.54.03 # so you hit >> then >> again 22.54.09 # one extra click 22.54.15 # sound settings are the most commonly changed ones 22.54.16 # so many choices 22.54.19 # yeah 22.54.47 # -settings 22.54.54 # never mind that 22.55.18 # it's hard to pick an intuitive system that is simple and uncluttered 22.55.25 # the only drawback to having so many features 22.55.27 # lol 22.56.45 # i think most of the unused or least used belong in the other folder 22.57.19 # like, wake up alarm and perhaps sleep timer 22.57.33 # and for sure games and demos 23.00.28 # ahh, just forget it 23.00.35 # too complicated 23.04.06 # how long ago was that? 23.04.20 # was what 23.04.40 # the conversation about the menu 23.04.44 # 3 minutes 23.04.52 # err 23.04.53 # 7 23.04.59 # 13:57:27 | and for sure games and demos 23.04.59 # 14:00:22 | ahh, just forget it 23.04.59 # 14:00:29 | too complicated 23.04.59 DBUG Enqueued KICK midknight2k3 23.04.59 # 14:04:01 | how long ago was that? 23.05.19 # i proposed a new menu design a while back 23.06.36 # tell me about it 23.07.16 # i included a buncch of future plugins and just generally cleaned 23.07.22 # lemme find it 23.10.27 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-07/1130.shtml 23.14.04 # nice 23.14.07 # i do like 23.14.58 # i tried to keep menus to 7 things 23.15.17 # yeah 23.15.25 # less clutter i think is the main goal 23.15.27 # like the submenus, so you can see it all without scrolling 23.15.34 # and more intuitive if possible 23.15.38 # mm hmm 23.15.56 # ive always thought it was a lot easier to go right one then down 8 23.16.14 # up one you mean? 23.16.27 # no 23.16.47 # oh, i see what you mean, that too 23.17.20 # but i meant its easier to go into a subdirectory then down 10 more 23.17.54 # yeah 23.19.43 # i might just use that idea 23.19.47 # if i can get it figgered out 23.20.10 # i started to convert it to xml to make it easier to read, but i never finished it 23.20.18 # lol 23.20.19 # should have 23.20.34 # its still on the old comp, i can finish it if you want 23.20.44 # unless i deleted it 23.20.47 # i mightve 23.20.47 # i'll see if that can be done 23.20.48 # lol 23.20.52 # hahah 23.21.07 # rdyipofp 23.21.14 # estupido^ 23.29.12 Join Guest [0] (jirc@c66.169.201.131.ts46v-19.pkcty.ftwrth.tx.charter.com) 23.30.28 # is anyone chatting? I can't see anything. 23.30.46 # it's a bit slow 23.30.55 # hi 23.30.57 # o 23.30.57 # im chatting 23.30.59 # whats new 23.31.09 # lol 23.31.16 # i'm just checking it out. I got my recorder 20 yesterday. 23.32.00 # uh oh. gotta go. bye 23.32.03 Quit Guest (Client Quit) 23.32.24 # ojk 23.52.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"