--- Log for 22.09.103  Server: orwell.freenode.net  Channel: #rockbox
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00.32.03 #       <midknight2k3> HI!
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00.34.53 #       <midknight2k3> er
00.34.53 #       <midknight2k3> bye
00.34.59 #       <midknight2k3> hi bagder
00.35.24 #       <Bagder> hi
00.40.01 #       <midknight2k3> did you see my ascii archos?
00.40.42 #       <Bagder> no
01.12.19 #       <BoD[]> where is it
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01.43.53 #       <midknight2k3> hi track
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01.52.09 #       <BoD[]> midknight2k3 : where is the ascii archos???
01.52.21 #       <midknight2k3> private chat?
01.52.36 #       <BoD[]> sorry :) 
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02.01.47 #       <track> zzzzzzzzzzz
02.01.54 #       <midknight2k3> ZzZzZ
02.01.58 #       <midknight2k3> time for bed?
02.02.02 #       <midknight2k3> its only 5pm here
02.02.06 #       <midknight2k3> 1am there
02.02.25 Quit    track ("Leaving")
02.02.31 #       <midknight2k3> jerk
02.15.27 Join    yeft [0] (yeft@AC8FA611.ipt.aol.com)
02.15.34 #       <yeft> awww ya missed me!
02.15.54 #       <midknight2k3> YEFT
02.15.57 #       <midknight2k3> YEFTY~
02.15.59 #       <yeft> mid!
02.16.03 #       <midknight2k3> i missed you!
02.16.06 #       <yeft> lol...
02.16.06 #       <midknight2k3> hows your fmrec?
02.16.12 #       <yeft> wonderful...
02.16.19 #       <midknight2k3> glad you got it over an ipod?
02.16.21 #       <yeft> reception isn't always great though 
02.16.26 #       <yeft> don't know 
02.16.29 #       <midknight2k3> i never use that radio anyways
02.16.31 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.16.36 #       <midknight2k3> not often at least
02.16.43 #       <midknight2k3> i flashed mine
02.16.43 #       <midknight2k3> did you
02.16.51 #       <yeft> lol i just realized rockbox does line in recording 
02.16.56 #       <yeft> no i'm scared
02.16.57 #       <midknight2k3> hahahaha
02.17.10 #       <midknight2k3> i had the *scary* 504 mask
02.17.21 #       <midknight2k3> which wasnt scary at all in the end
02.17.36 #       <yeft> whats the scary 504 mask?
02.17.57 #       <midknight2k3> some guy flashed his fmrec with a 504 mask and it broke
02.18.01 #       <midknight2k3> he thought it was the mask
02.18.09 #       <midknight2k3> it turned out the ucl didnt copy over right
02.18.10 #       <yeft> ....i wanna flash it, but i don't wanna shell the cash for a new one 
02.18.19 #       <midknight2k3> it's foolproof now
02.18.28 #       <midknight2k3> if you have enough battery you cant bust it really
02.18.35 #       <midknight2k3> unless you hold off when its flashing
02.18.40 #       <midknight2k3> but then youd be lucky
02.18.45 #       <midknight2k3> it only takes a few seconds anyways
02.18.46 #       <yeft> lemme charge it, and i'll flash it 
02.18.50 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.18.54 #       <midknight2k3> now it has a crc check too
02.19.03 #       <midknight2k3> so if the ucl is dead it will refuse
02.19.04 #       <yeft> ....still scared
02.19.06 #       <midknight2k3> i missed you
02.19.09 #       <midknight2k3> i was too
02.19.11 #       <midknight2k3> it was fun
02.19.18 #       <midknight2k3> after the first time, it's unbustable
02.19.23 #       <midknight2k3> reflashing new ones is a snap
02.19.44 #       <midknight2k3> because even if it fails, you can use archos firmware to get a new ajbrec and then use archos firmware to load it and reflash
02.19.54 #       <midknight2k3> thats as failproof as it gets
02.21.05 #       <yeft> aight can i do it while its plugged in? 
02.21.16 #       <midknight2k3> sure
02.21.26 #       <midknight2k3> JIC whats the batt level?
02.21.36 #       <yeft> jic?
02.21.41 #       <midknight2k3> just in case
02.21.46 #       <midknight2k3> not really matters if its plugged in
02.21.47 #       <yeft> 0 lol
02.21.58 #       <yeft> i just took it to the beach 
02.21.59 #       <midknight2k3> but as this is the most important flash you will ever make..
02.22.00 #       <midknight2k3> you know
02.22.01 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.22.19 #       <yeft> oh shizzit this is my old comp, i don't have the driver....
02.22.28 #       <midknight2k3> you suck yeft
02.22.29 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.22.33 #       <midknight2k3> you were missed
02.22.38 #       <midknight2k3> i wondered where you were
02.23.04 #       <yeft> lol well i went away for the summer, and i was in diff irc chat for a while, but they got annoying
02.23.33 #       <yeft> not as cool as you guys
02.23.44 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.26.43 #       <yeft>  PSUWOLF4 [8:27 AM]:	 ur right 
02.26.44 #       <yeft>  Yeft [8:28 AM]:	 it happens 
02.26.52 #       <midknight2k3> ?
02.27.04 #       <yeft> lol, i just thought that was funny...people must learn i'm always right
02.27.16 #       <midknight2k3> haha
02.30.54 #       <midknight2k3> remember to ask me before you go on!
02.30.57 #       <midknight2k3> i like helping
02.32.20 #       <yeft> ok, i'm ..on...getting the driver 
02.32.26 #       <midknight2k3> whateber
02.32.28 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.32.30 #       <midknight2k3> TYPOS GALORE
02.36.13 #       <yeft> ok its installed  
02.36.24 #       <midknight2k3> get your archos up and running
02.36.28 #       <midknight2k3> oh and btw
02.36.32 #       <midknight2k3> the loading times are great
02.36.37 #       <midknight2k3> it usually takes soooo long
02.36.40 #       <midknight2k3> like 15 secs
02.36.46 #       <midknight2k3> now its like 4-6 secs
02.36.53 #       <yeft> ok ok
02.36.57 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.37.01 #       <yeft> my archos is plugged in
02.38.23 #       <yeft> mozilla fired up and i'm at rockbox.haxx whatever
02.38.29 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.38.35 #       <midknight2k3> im using mozilla too
02.38.41 #       <midknight2k3> click the flash thing
02.38.41 #       <midknight2k3> new
02.38.44 #       <midknight2k3> news*
02.38.59 #       <yeft> ok...
02.39.37 #       <midknight2k3> just want me to help you through it instead of using the docs? (using the docs for reference)?
02.40.22 #       <yeft> yeh yeh yeh
02.40.30 #       <midknight2k3> ok
02.40.37 #       <midknight2k3> ready to take the plunge?
02.40.58 #       <midknight2k3> firstly, go to Menu - Debug - View HW info
02.41.22 #       <yeft> its plugged in...lol
02.41.34 #       <yeft> ...so i guess take it out 
02.42.06 #       <midknight2k3> take what out
02.42.07 #       <midknight2k3> usb?
02.42.08 #       <midknight2k3> yes
02.42.35 #       <yeft> ok in hw info
02.42.56 #       <yeft> shizzit i tested usb positive
02.43.03 #       <midknight2k3> ?
02.43.16 #       <yeft> ...archos humor...next to usb it says positive
02.43.24 #       <midknight2k3> uh
02.43.25 #       <midknight2k3> funny
02.43.25 #       <midknight2k3> he
02.43.26 DBUG    Enqueued KICK midknight2k3
02.43.26 #       <midknight2k3> he
02.43.29 #       <yeft> lol
02.43.43 #       <midknight2k3> you are talking out of your USB port again!
02.43.59 #       <yeft> booooooo
02.44.22 #       <yeft> ok lets keep goin
02.44.26 #       <yeft> i'm in hw info
02.44.52 #       <midknight2k3> yeah lol
02.45.01 #       <midknight2k3> firstly, what does the line "flash" say?
02.45.15 #       <yeft> M=BF D=D6
02.45.22 #       <midknight2k3> good
02.45.24 #       <midknight2k3> mask?
02.45.35 #       <yeft> 0x0304
02.45.42 #       <midknight2k3> and ROM CRC?
02.49.19 #       <yeft> peace!
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02.51.26 #       <midknight2k3> poor adi
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03.08.30 #       <midknight2k3> hi
03.32.57 #       <midknight2k3> who
03.33.00 #       <midknight2k3> whoa*
03.33.11 #       <midknight2k3> PLUGH: Idle time - 48hrs 33mins 8secs
03.33.34 #       <Plugh> I'm watching you
03.33.47 #       <midknight2k3> YOU BLEW IT
03.33.48 #       <midknight2k3> so far
03.33.52 #       <midknight2k3> PLUGH: Idle time - 7secs
03.33.54 #       <midknight2k3> carpper
03.33.57 #       <midknight2k3> crapper
03.34.00 #       <midknight2k3> so close
03.34.01 #       <midknight2k3> so far
03.34.06 #       <midknight2k3> and blows it
03.34.31 #       <Plugh> don't mention my name and I'll stay quiet
03.34.41 #       <midknight2k3> plugh
03.34.46 #       <midknight2k3> plugh plugh plugh plugh plugh
03.34.54 #       <midknight2k3> plugh plugh plugh plugh plugh plugh plugh
03.35.07 #       <Plugh> puts up a little red 5 in my bar
03.35.16 #       <midknight2k3> ?
03.36.00 #       <Plugh>  [18:36] [@Plugh] [2:#rockbox(+nt)] [Act: 4,5]
03.36.19 #       <midknight2k3> ???
03.36.24 #       <BoD[]> I go to bed ! seeyall
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03.36.32 #       <Plugh> #rockbox is on window 5
03.36.50 #       <midknight2k3> and?
03.37.58 #       <midknight2k3> hahah
03.38.00 #       <midknight2k3> plugh
03.38.11 #       <midknight2k3> 01.34.13 #       <Plugh> there were people who screwed with other peoples' names in Kindergarten. We called them assholes
03.38.58 #       <midknight2k3> MOZILLA IS COOL
03.39.09 #       <midknight2k3> it goes like, when you use the arrows to scroll, slow and then fast
03.41.14 #       <midknight2k3> PLUGH!
03.41.59 #       <Plugh> okay back to ignoring you
03.42.11 #       <midknight2k3> aww
03.42.34 #       <midknight2k3> priceless:
03.42.36 #       <midknight2k3>  
03.42.36 #       <midknight2k3> 22.25.56 Join    Zagor [242] (bjst@as9-5-6.k.s.bonet.se)
03.42.36 #       <midknight2k3> 22.41.33 #       <track> hi
03.42.36 #       <midknight2k3> 22.43.52 #       <J00> lo
03.42.36 #       <midknight2k3> 22.49.12 #       <Plugh> yo
03.42.36 ***     Alert Mode level 1
03.42.36 #       <midknight2k3> 22.49.26 #       <scott666> hey
03.42.38 #       <midknight2k3> 22.49.32 #       <track> hi
03.42.43 #       <midknight2k3> heheh
03.43.05 #       <midknight2k3> 22.55.46 #       <track> zagor isn;t saying much
03.43.05 #       <midknight2k3> 22.58.22 #       <track> would win first prize in a moodiness contest though
03.43.05 #       <midknight2k3> 22.58.22 #       <track> :-)
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03.43.05 #       <midknight2k3> 22.58.25 #       <track> joke
03.43.13 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.43.17 #       <midknight2k3> ignore me?
03.43.18 #       <midknight2k3> what a jerkl
03.43.21 #       <midknight2k3> jerk*
03.43.59 #       <midknight2k3> 23.09.25 Join    hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237)
03.44.00 #       <midknight2k3> 23.22.16 #       <Plugh> hiya hardeep 
03.44.00 #       <midknight2k3> 23.28.45 Quit    track ("Leaving")
03.44.13 #       <midknight2k3> er, 13 minutes late there
03.45.45 #       <midknight2k3> fine then
03.45.47 #       <midknight2k3> ignore me
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05.00.33 #       <midknight2k3> scott
05.00.42 #       <scott666> what?
05.00.45 #       <midknight2k3> didnt you get the on button fix
05.00.51 #       <scott666> yeah
05.00.54 #       <midknight2k3> can you dcc it?
05.01.45 #       <scott666> http://joerg.hohensohn.bei.t-online.de/archos/flash/flash_fm.zip
05.01.56 #       <midknight2k3> ?
05.02.00 #       <midknight2k3> that's the new one?
05.02.05 #       <scott666> yeah
05.02.13 #       <midknight2k3> with the on button fix?
05.02.17 #       <scott666> yup
05.02.28 #       <scott666> thats the one i downloaded when i reflashed
05.02.32 #       <midknight2k3> and i hafta redo the firmware-flash.rock?
05.02.38 #       <scott666> yeah
05.02.45 #       <midknight2k3> *scared again*
05.02.51 #       <scott666> i know
05.02.57 #       <midknight2k3> i thought i would be scared no more after the first one
05.02.57 #       <scott666> but i did it!
05.03.04 #       <midknight2k3> but here comes a new one
05.03.09 #       <midknight2k3> i know
05.03.14 #       <midknight2k3> i will hafta
05.03.15 #       <scott666> this seems more like tempting fate
05.03.20 #       <midknight2k3> crackholes
05.03.33 #       <midknight2k3> meaning?
05.03.43 #       <midknight2k3> tempting fate...
05.03.53 #       <midknight2k3> those two words together don't seem right
05.04.05 #       <scott666> doing it once and being fine, and then doing it AGAIN
05.04.13 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.04.27 #       <midknight2k3> i bet this won't be the last time
05.05.06 #       <hardeep> why do you have to do it again?  wy not just flash using the ucl file?
05.05.10 #       <hardeep> er why
05.05.22 #       <midknight2k3> a new on button fix
05.05.25 #       <midknight2k3> a whole new bootloader
05.06.01 #       <scott666> well not WHOLE new, just a fix
05.06.57 #       <midknight2k3> well
05.07.02 #       <midknight2k3> a fixed bootloader then
05.12.57 Join    diddystar5 [0] (~diddystar@AC83BE66.ipt.aol.com)
05.13.02 #       <diddystar5> hey mid
05.13.09 #       <midknight2k3> hey
05.13.26 #       <diddystar5> im still working on the vu meter
05.13.32 #       <midknight2k3> cool
05.13.36 #       <midknight2k3> did you get it to move>
05.13.51 #       <diddystar5> still can't come up with a good way to get it to move
05.14.03 #       <midknight2k3> steal peakmeter code?
05.14.05 #       <diddystar5> i have a precompile of what it will look like though
05.14.08 #       <midknight2k3> i have homework
05.14.09 #       <midknight2k3> crap
05.14.14 #       <midknight2k3> can you dcc me?
05.14.20 #       <diddystar5> yes  one minute
05.14.21 #       <midknight2k3> is it a sim?
05.15.25 #       <diddystar5> no a rock for your fm
05.15.41 #       <midknight2k3> ok
05.18.22 #       <midknight2k3> for the latest ver?
05.18.36 #       <diddystar5> yes        it should work with whatever you have
05.18.39 #       <midknight2k3> i guess it dont matter
05.18.40 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.18.58 #       <diddystar5> currently is runs and quits in 8 secs
05.19.09 #       <diddystar5> ill make it quit when you press off later
05.19.10 #       <midknight2k3> ok
05.19.26 #       <midknight2k3> ill just let it run then
05.19.29 #       <diddystar5> and the needles are just going to point at no volume
05.19.31 #       <midknight2k3> ok copied
05.19.55 #       <midknight2k3> wow
05.19.56 #       <midknight2k3> cool
05.19.58 #       <midknight2k3> i like it
05.20.11 #       <diddystar5> not great looking yet...
05.20.15 #       <midknight2k3> it is too
05.20.16 #       <midknight2k3> great work
05.20.26 #       <midknight2k3> just to make it move now
05.20.40 #       <midknight2k3> i still dont get why you cant steal the peakmeter cide
05.20.42 #       <midknight2k3> code*
05.20.45 #       <midknight2k3> tell me again?
05.21.19 #       <midknight2k3> ok
05.21.24 #       <midknight2k3> firmware_flash-ing
05.21.28 #       <diddystar5> the peakmeter code want work because some stuff needs to be added to the plugin api.     right now im trying to work with the oscillograph plugin code
05.21.42 #       <midknight2k3> F2 to program
05.21.47 #       <midknight2k3> count down, someone
05.21.57 #       <diddystar5> 3
05.21.58 #       <diddystar5> 2
05.21.59 #       <diddystar5> 1
05.22.02 #       <diddystar5> 0!
05.22.07 #       <midknight2k3> stoopid thing
05.22.11 #       <midknight2k3> it says f2 to program
05.22.17 #       <midknight2k3> and then it gives a warning when i hit f2
05.22.21 #       <midknight2k3> but i did hit it
05.22.29 #       <midknight2k3> NOW.. F3 to proceed
05.22.36 #       <midknight2k3> i bet they will make it another wearning
05.22.41 #       <midknight2k3> and then play to program
05.22.43 #       <midknight2k3> sheesh
05.22.46 #       <midknight2k3> count down someone
05.22.49 #       <midknight2k3> F3 to program
05.22.53 #       <diddystar5> are you doing the first flash?!
05.22.57 #       <midknight2k3> no
05.22.58 #       <midknight2k3> second
05.22.59 #       <midknight2k3> go
05.23.05 #       <diddystar5> 3
05.23.05 #       <diddystar5> 2
05.23.06 #       <diddystar5> 1
05.23.08 #       <diddystar5> 0!
05.23.21 #       <midknight2k3> verify ok
05.23.26 #       <midknight2k3> hmm
05.23.30 #       <midknight2k3> to shut it off or not
05.23.34 #       <midknight2k3> count down somone
05.23.41 #       <diddystar5> shut off
05.23.47 #       <midknight2k3> I SAID COUNT DOWN
05.23.51 #       <diddystar5> 3
05.23.52 #       <diddystar5> 2
05.23.53 #       <diddystar5> 11
05.23.56 #       <diddystar5> 10
05.23.57 #       <diddystar5> 0
05.23.59 #       <diddystar5> !
05.23.59 #       <midknight2k3> count down to boot
05.24.06 #       <diddystar5> 5
05.24.07 #       <diddystar5> 4
05.24.08 #       <diddystar5> 3
05.24.08 DBUG    Enqueued KICK diddystar5
05.24.08 #       <diddystar5> 2
05.24.08 #       <diddystar5> 1
05.24.09 ***     Alert Mode level 1
05.24.09 #       <diddystar5> 0
05.24.13 #       <midknight2k3> YEAH
05.24.14 #       <midknight2k3> WOO
05.24.17 #       <midknight2k3> AND
05.24.25 #       <midknight2k3> the version is: "Ver. FlashEdition"
05.24.27 #       <midknight2k3> AWESOME
05.24.28 #       <midknight2k3> i like
05.24.30 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.24.33 #       <midknight2k3> Ver FlashEdition
05.24.36 #       <midknight2k3> AWESOME
05.24.40 #       <midknight2k3> i like that
05.24.50 #       <midknight2k3> wanna pic
05.24.53 #       <diddystar5> why are you using firmware_flash? you only need to run rockbox_flash to update
05.25.01 #       <midknight2k3> i know
05.25.03 #       <midknight2k3> bootloader fix
05.25.06 #       <midknight2k3> for on button
05.25.08 #       <diddystar5> ooo
05.25.18 #       <midknight2k3> did you flash yours?
05.25.23 #       <diddystar5> yes
05.25.28 #       <midknight2k3> did it say FlashEditon?
05.25.36 #       <diddystar5> no
05.25.40 #       <midknight2k3> its cool
05.25.52 #       <midknight2k3> sec
05.25.54 #       <diddystar5> i did it on the first day it was released
05.26.02 #       <midknight2k3> steal the osci code or something
05.26.04 #       <midknight2k3> lolol
05.26.40 #       <diddystar5> ooo what the hay       i want to update my bootloder anyway!
05.26.49 #       <midknight2k3> why?
05.26.49 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.26.54 #       <midknight2k3> it wont say flashedition i bet
05.26.57 #       <midknight2k3> a pic is better
05.27.01 #       <midknight2k3> which im getting
05.27.10 #       <diddystar5> i think a crc check and stuff was added
05.27.28 #       <midknight2k3> ok
05.27.28 #       <midknight2k3> go for it
05.27.33 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.30.58 #       <diddystar5> count down!
05.31.11 #       <diddystar5> go
05.31.12 #       <midknight2k3> ok
05.31.14 #       <midknight2k3> 3
05.31.15 #       <midknight2k3> 2
05.31.17 #       <midknight2k3> 1
05.31.17 #       <midknight2k3> GOOOO
05.31.18 #       <midknight2k3> ASDJFAL:SDf
05.31.36 #       <diddystar5> whoo hooo
05.31.47 #       <midknight2k3> flashedition?
05.31.51 #       <diddystar5> Ver. FlashEdition
05.31.54 #       <diddystar5> !
05.31.54 #       <midknight2k3> cool
05.31.56 #       <midknight2k3> i like it
05.31.59 #       <midknight2k3> ill keep it
05.32.09 #       <midknight2k3> stealing the osci code?
05.32.17 #       <diddystar5> you can add flash edition to the logo!
05.32.30 #       <midknight2k3> you can add any edition
05.32.34 #       <diddystar5> in uisimulator/x11/archos there is the rockbox logo
05.32.35 #       <midknight2k3> You can say DiddyVer
05.32.49 #       <midknight2k3> Diddy'sVer
05.33.15 #       <diddystar5> you can edit  bmp2rb and add add it to apps/recorder/icons.c
05.33.24 #       <diddystar5> hehe
05.33.27 #       <midknight2k3> or you can just edit version.c
05.33.30 #       <midknight2k3> or whatever
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05.34.14 #       <diddystar5> but you can make it look cute and IN the logo!
05.34.27 #       <diddystar5> i once make it say Lee's Rockbox
05.34.43 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.34.57 #       <diddystar5> you should make a ascii image and out it as your logo!
05.35.06 #       <midknight2k3> cool
05.35.08 #       <diddystar5> take that middle finger one i saw in the IRC log
05.35.15 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha
05.35.33 #       <diddystar5> you rockbox can flip you off!
05.35.42 #       <diddystar5> there's another thing it could do
05.35.50 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.35.53 #       <midknight2k3> it's called vu meter
05.35.59 #       <midknight2k3> you steal the osci code and it works
05.36.01 #       <midknight2k3> like magic
05.36.06 #       <midknight2k3> try it someday
05.36.07 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.36.29 #       <diddystar5> might do that after school tomo ro
05.36.42 #       <diddystar5> what state do you live in?
05.37.04 #       <midknight2k3> wa
05.37.20 #       <diddystar5> cool    im below you      in oregon
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05.37.37 #       <midknight2k3> neat
05.37.39 #       <diddystar5> ahhh THU        bless me
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05.37.50 #       * thu blesses diddystar5
05.39.08 #       <diddystar5> i like chicken i like liver     meow mix meow mix please deliver!
05.40.43 #       <midknight2k3> wheres the ver info
05.40.50 #       <midknight2k3> like howd he change it to FlashEdition
05.41.13 #       <diddystar5> in tools/configure
05.41.35 #       <midknight2k3> ?
05.41.56 #       <diddystar5> in that file find: VERSION=\$(shell date +%y%m%d-%H%M)
05.42.10 #       <diddystar5> chang that to VERSION=\$ (whatever)
05.42.20 #       <midknight2k3> cool
05.42.21 #       <midknight2k3> thanks
05.42.28 #       <midknight2k3> i got a good idea
05.42.34 #       <diddystar5> o sorry i think VERSION= (whatever)
05.42.51 #       <diddystar5> i did it once
05.43.05 #       <midknight2k3> they should have it say &ROCKbox and at bottom put "rockbox.haxx.se" for 1 second and then "Ver. xxxxxxx"
05.43.11 #       <midknight2k3> for 1 second
05.43.36 #       <diddystar5> sounds cool
05.43.54 #       <midknight2k3> maybe i can do it
05.44.04 #       <midknight2k3> a little scredit is due
05.44.08 #       <midknight2k3> credit*
05.44.12 #       <midknight2k3> to rockbox.haxx.se
05.44.27 #       <diddystar5> are maybe its: VERSION= "(whatever)"
05.44.33 #       <diddystar5> just have to play with it
05.45.10 #       <midknight2k3> whatever
05.45.12 #       <midknight2k3> thanks anyways
05.45.14 #       <midknight2k3> il find it
05.45.17 #       <midknight2k3> im not stupid
05.45.32 #       <midknight2k3> VERSION=\$(shell date +%y%m%d-%H%M)
05.46.12 #       <diddystar5> yes   but you have to change it i still think it would be VERSION= lalalalalale
05.46.36 #       <midknight2k3> whatever
05.46.39 #       <midknight2k3> let me try other way
05.47.25 #       <midknight2k3> ITS WORKING I THINK
05.47.26 #       <diddystar5> what?       ya cant do it in version.c/.h
05.47.34 #       <midknight2k3> i know
05.47.38 #       <midknight2k3> i was giving an example
05.47.49 #       <midknight2k3> like in credits.c or wahtever
05.47.56 #       <midknight2k3> it generates from docs/credits
05.48.10 #       <diddystar5> yes    you can add your name     its fun
05.48.16 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.48.19 #       <midknight2k3> or put
05.48.25 #       <midknight2k3> (in your case)
05.48.27 #       <midknight2k3> LEE
05.48.28 #       <midknight2k3> LEE
05.48.30 #       <midknight2k3> LEE
05.48.31 #       <midknight2k3> LEE
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05.48.33 #       <midknight2k3> LEE
05.48.34 #       <midknight2k3> x10
05.48.35 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.48.53 #       <midknight2k3> PLUGH: Idle - 2hrs 6mins 41secs
05.49.00 #       <diddystar5> i made rockbox myself damit!
05.49.08 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.49.14 #       <midknight2k3> i got a perfect idea
05.49.22 #       <diddystar5> -Plugh- USERINFO Better living through circuitry
05.52.54 #       <midknight2k3> plugh sucks
05.52.57 #       <midknight2k3> he ignores me
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05.54.23 #       <peter1> Hi all.  Got a hardware problem.  Wondering if anyone can help
05.55.22 #       <diddystar5> sure
05.55.31 #       <midknight2k3> what is it
05.55.53 #       <peter1> Just bought a new 20g recorder to replace my now dead 6 gig recorded
05.56.18 #       <midknight2k3> ok
05.56.28 #       <peter1> It does not always boot.  
05.56.36 #       <diddystar5> what does it do?
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05.56.56 #       <peter1> When you power on, often just the refd and green lite will stay on and no LCD or boot
05.57.15 #       <peter1> This happens 80% of the time.  ac power or battery has no effect
05.57.23 #       <diddystar5> wow
05.57.37 #       <peter1> I swaped harddrives and also pulled the hardrive with no change
05.57.50 #       <diddystar5> you got a bad one
05.58.15 #       <midknight2k3> maybe flashing would work
05.58.22 #       <peter1> I figured as much.  I did the usual look for loose connections and resolder
05.58.24 #       <midknight2k3> replace that crapped bootloader
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05.58.37 #       <peter1> I thought about that but my flash=??? so no go for me
05.59.03 #       <diddystar5> where did you get it from?
05.59.05 #       <peter1> It is like the CPU never comes out of reset as it does nothing at all 9/10 times
05.59.28 #       <peter1> Bought it new in the box of ebay.  (plus I have torn into it already)
05.59.36 #       <midknight2k3> uh oh
05.59.41 #       <diddystar5> not good
05.59.42 #       <midknight2k3> not good
05.59.43 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.59.46 #       <midknight2k3> 20:59:38 | <diddystar5> not good
05.59.47 #       <midknight2k3> 20:59:39 | <midknight2k3> not good
05.59.51 #       <midknight2k3> well
06.00.00 #       <midknight2k3> hum
06.00.04 #       <diddystar5> can you send stuff back to the seller on ebay?
06.00.12 #       <midknight2k3> you could flash it.. might help (if you cant send back)
06.00.18 #       <peter1> Yeah I figured I would ask here to see if any of you guys had a simliar experience
06.00.35 #       <peter1> I can't flash it due to flash=??
06.00.36 #       <midknight2k3> not me
06.00.37 #       <diddystar5> his flash info is ??  so no good there
06.00.41 #       <midknight2k3> crap
06.01.01 #       <midknight2k3> he's stuck unless he can return it
06.01.05 #       <midknight2k3> if he is stuck...
06.01.19 #       <midknight2k3> well
06.01.21 #       <peter1> Oh well.  I guess I will fiddle with it some more.  (I printed the schematics)
06.01.25 #       <midknight2k3> i'll take it! :)
06.01.33 #       <diddystar5> no me!
06.01.39 #       <midknight2k3> i said it first
06.01.39 #       <diddystar5> i love jb's
06.01.44 #       <midknight2k3> BACK OFF CANNIBAL
06.01.51 #       <peter1> LOL
06.01.53 #       <midknight2k3> i do to
06.01.54 #       <midknight2k3> so there
06.01.56 #       <midknight2k3> i said it first
06.02.00 #       <midknight2k3> my address is...
06.02.15 #       <midknight2k3> no lol
06.02.20 #       <diddystar5> gotta go
06.02.22 #       <diddystar5> bye
06.02.24 #       <diddystar5> !
06.02.29 #       <midknight2k3> bye
06.02.36 #       <midknight2k3> work on osci code
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06.02.48 #       <midknight2k3> bye
06.03.02 #       <midknight2k3> good luck
06.03.05 #       <peter1> Thanks for the help. If I learn anything new I will post back..
06.03.09 #       <midknight2k3> sure
06.03.10 #       <midknight2k3> also
06.03.13 #       <midknight2k3> try the mailinglist
06.03.18 #       <midknight2k3> maybe someone can help
06.03.21 #       <midknight2k3> if you didnt already
06.03.30 #       <midknight2k3> night
06.03.35 #       <peter1> will do.  also posted at funmp3player just for grins.
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19.42.22 #       <Dogger> hi
19.43.28 #       <Dogger> I have just got an AV320, and want to code some games for it
19.43.33 #       <Dogger> any ideas where I start?
19.43.40 #       <Dogger> has anyone else tried this yet?
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20.06.37 #       <Plugh> this group isn't doing work on the AVs
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20.29.07 #       <uski> hi everybody
20.29.14 #       <uski> a question :) what is the hardware of the ondio ?
20.29.24 #       <uski> is it a SH1 µC ?
20.35.39 #       <uski> another question... i see an offer on the archos website ofr my country about 
20.35.44 #       <uski> they sell some recorder 10
20.35.50 #       <uski> but thezy say the interface is USB 1.1
20.35.52 #       <uski> is it an error ?
20.36.36 #       <uski> will rockbox work with it ? ;)
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20.52.19 #       <uski> pleaaaaaase can anyone answer ? :((
20.54.17 #       <Plugh> umm
20.54.27 #       <Plugh> I don't know of any Ondio work going on
20.54.46 #       <Plugh> the USB interface is independant of the fw
20.55.33 #       <uski> i mean, on archos' website they say the recorder 10 use a USB 1.1 interface
20.55.48 #       <uski> BUT as far as i know, the recorder series use a ISD300 chip - which is USB 042 compliant
20.56.04 #       <uski> USB 042 i mean ;)
20.56.24 #       <uski> so before buying a recorder 10 i'd like to know what is the interface actually used
21.00.13 #       <uski> damn
21.00.13 #       <uski> http://rockbox.haxx.se/internals/rec_main_top.jpg
21.00.18 #       <uski> photos of a RECORDER
21.00.24 #       <uski> ...with an ISD200 chip ! 
21.06.51 #       <Dogger> anyone know how I could get started coding my AV300?
21.07.20 #       <Dogger> (I am not a newbie to hacking, coding loads of different chips in asm, reverse engineering etc)
21.08.26 #       <Plugh> so umm... decrypt the encoding mechanism they use for the firmware file, open up the box to see what chips are available, find the data sheets and, if possible, the SDKs for the different chips that are used
21.08.41 #       <Dogger> ok,
21.08.44 #       <Plugh> then decompile the firmware to find where it hooks into the hardware
21.09.03 #       <Dogger> do you know if the firmware update is a similar format to the ones rockbox does?
21.09.09 #       <Plugh> then write your own firmware from the ground up to take advantage of the hooks
21.09.14 #       <Dogger> sure ok,
21.09.19 #       <Plugh> no, it's not very similar at all
21.09.28 #       <Dogger> do you know of anyone else working on AV300?
21.09.35 #       <Plugh> which is why Rockbox developers haven't touched the AVs
21.09.39 #       <Dogger> ah ok,
21.09.50 #       <Dogger> but AV has a joystick and a cool screen!!! :)
21.09.57 #       <Dogger> need to write games
21.10.15 #       <Plugh> looks like a nice piece of hardware
21.10.28 #       <Plugh> nobody here wants to write new video codecs though
21.10.47 #       <Plugh> the firmware isn't extensible
21.10.59 #       <Plugh> so you'd have to re-write EVERYTHING from the ground up
21.11.10 #       <Plugh> including video playback and recording
21.12.18 #       <Plugh> the mp3 devices are fortunate enough to have the core of their operation (mp3 play/record) in a dedicated chip
21.13.17 #       <Plugh> so the only things the firmware really has to do are kicking off the functions of the de/encoder chip and managing I/O
21.13.26 #       <Plugh> oh, and some battery management stuff
21.14.01 #       <Plugh> the AVs have a processor that is powerful enough to handle the encoding and decoding of several media formats
21.14.13 #       <Plugh> so they use it to do all that dirty work
21.14.45 #       <Plugh> any open-source or replacement solution would require the team to re-write all those functions as well
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21.15.28 #       <Plugh> this is not to say that it wouldn't make the coolest portable device ever made.
21.15.40 #       <Plugh> it's be the ultimate in portable goodness
21.15.46 #       <Plugh> ^it'd
21.16.22 #       <Dogger> hmmm ok,
21.16.24 #       <Plugh> but unless you're an Archos developer, the resources would be pretty slim
21.16.29 #       <Dogger> I am gonna do it
21.16.41 #       <Dogger> I *need* to put some cool games on it
21.16.48 #       <Dogger> cos it's such a cool device
21.17.06 #       <Dogger> so do you think this sounds like a good attack plan
21.17.08 #       <Plugh> yeah. If I had the cash for it, I'd buy one
21.17.20 #       <Plugh> especially the DVR model
21.17.22 #       <Dogger> 1. find out serial port.... get that working.... find out how to recover/update from there?
21.17.41 #       <Dogger> 2. work out firmware format, chips used, get devel environment up, emulator etc
21.17.46 #       <Dogger> 3. code stuff
21.17.55 #       <Dogger> yep thats what I got
21.18.05 #       <Plugh> sounds like a good start
21.18.14 #       <Dogger> so presumably if I do a crap update, the box is dead unless I know how to do a serial update?
21.18.35 #       <Plugh> well, I hope that's not the case
21.18.53 #       <Dogger> has anyone had any luck talking to archos before?
21.18.58 #       <Dogger> or is it all REing etc
21.19.02 #       <Plugh> brick wall
21.19.22 #       <Dogger> sure
21.19.26 #       <Dogger> pretty typical
21.19.27 #       <Plugh> they're not even acknowledging this project
21.19.35 #       <Dogger> thats a shame
21.19.47 #       <Dogger> I heard the o/s on the archos was linux based
21.19.54 #       <Plugh> personally, I see that they're in the business of selling hardware
21.20.03 #       <Plugh> cuz their software sux ass
21.20.10 #       <Dogger> yeah it could be a ton better
21.20.24 #       <Dogger> or they could at least just code an O/S, and let others write software to run on it
21.20.33 #       <Plugh> so they should be working with outside devs to make the software usable
21.20.47 #       <Dogger> I mean.... if there were game packs available, how many more would they sell!
21.20.49 #       <Plugh> it's not Linux based
21.21.00 #       <Plugh> way too small to be Linux
21.21.01 #       <Dogger> o ok, I headr wrong then
21.21.14 #       <Plugh> I'm talking about the mp3 devices
21.21.18 #       <Dogger> so is everything you see on screen in the tiny update file?
21.21.23 #       <Dogger> ah ok
21.21.26 #       <Dogger> maybe the AV is
21.21.52 #       <Plugh> yes, everything you see and interact with is through that little update file
21.21.58 #       <Dogger> ok
21.22.08 #       <Dogger> I saw there was a serial interface on the mp3 devices
21.22.16 #       <Dogger> are there any docs on it? or how to use it?
21.22.20 #       <Dogger> might be the same as AV
21.22.44 #       <Plugh> yeah. it's in the project docs page
21.22.54 #       <Dogger> ok looking.... thanks
21.23.04 #       <Plugh> lunch time
21.23.05 #       <Plugh> bbl
21.23.09 #       <Dogger> :) same here....
21.23.23 #       <Dogger> thanks for all your help even tho the AV isnt really the same thing :)
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21.37.35 #       <uski> hi [IDC]Dragon
21.37.39 #       <uski> how are you ? :)
21.38.06 #       <uski> i have an opportunity to buy an archos recorder 10 for 250euros, do you tihnk it is a good deal ? from the archos website
21.39.24 #       <[IDC]Dragon> hi uski, sorry for afk
21.39.27 #       <Jared> is that after tax or something?
21.39.43 #       <[IDC]Dragon> is is a usb2 model?
21.39.48 #       <[IDC]Dragon> is it
21.40.15 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I wouldn't buy any other.
21.41.11 #       <Dogger> usb2 is *so* much faster than usb
21.41.25 #       <Dogger> didn't realise until I tried both the other day
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21.56.00 #       <uski> it's usb 1.1 :\
21.56.37 #       <uski> i thought that all recorders were USB 2 (ISD300) until i saw a photo on rockbox.haxx.se of a recorder with an isd200 !
21.56.45 #       <uski> 250euros inc. VAT
21.56.56 #       <uski> it's 150 euros less than a recorder 20
21.57.07 #       <[IDC]Dragon> don't buy usb1.1
21.57.17 #       <[IDC]Dragon> it's terrible.
21.57.47 #       <Plugh> S
21.57.48 #       <Plugh> L
21.57.49 #       <[IDC]Dragon> I feel that every time I'm at my office PC, which has only 1.1
21.57.50 #       <Plugh> O
21.57.51 #       <Plugh> ...
21.57.55 #       <Plugh> W
21.58.45 #       <uski> really ?
21.58.49 #       <uski> :\
21.59.06 #       <uski> i wish that the ISD300 is pin to pin compatible with the ISD200 lol
21.59.45 #       <uski> grrrr why USB2 models are so expensive
21.59.56 #       <uski> the prices keep raising !
22.00.53 #       <uski> also it is becoming very difficult to get a recorder in france
22.01.14 #       <uski> it's like getting a creative zen: the only place that have some players to sell is the manufacturer's website - with very high prices
22.01.26 #       <Plugh> try buying one off ebay and asking the person to ship to France
22.01.36 #       <Plugh> then all you have to worry about is the power supply
22.09.56 #       <uski> i don't want a used archos :\
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22.20.35 #       <MT> hmm
22.20.43 #       <MT> time to blag a free shipment from work
22.22.55 #       <Plugh> uski: used archos is probably a better bet than a new one. Most of the real problem units are obviously bad within the first week or month
22.23.13 #       <Plugh> if it survives longer than that, chances are it will last a long time
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22.32.40 #       <uski> Plugh: yea butif it fails the first month i will sent it to archos
22.33.33 #       <Plugh> uski: okay. good luck ;)
22.35.21 #       <MT> hmm :/
22.35.24 #       <MT> sad and happy
22.35.44 #       <MT> im sending my archos off tomorrow, i might never see it again
22.36.04 #       <MT> happy in i will get either a new one or money back
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22.41.09 #       <Dogger> whats wrong with it?
22.43.06 #       <MT> headphone out is knackered
22.43.15 #       <Dogger> ah
22.43.21 #       <Dogger> kinda useful for that to work
22.43.30 #       <MT> and all the paint has peeled away from the back 
22.43.31 #       <MT> heh
22.44.05 #       <MT> i just hope they dont notice ive taken it to pieces before
22.44.32 #       <MT> and i have to unflash it
22.44.32 #       <MT> heh
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22.44.45 #       * MT scans the room for archos tech support types
22.50.00 #       <Plugh> we're not tech support. We're rockbox firmware developers and their peanut gallery
22.53.25 #       <scott666> mmmm....peanuts
22.56.46 #       <Plugh> umm, was there a per-track bookmark patch?
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23.07.25 #       <Plugh> found it
23.07.29 #       <Plugh> compiling now
23.07.30 #       <track> hi
23.10.21 #       <Plugh> hi track
23.10.36 #       <Plugh> is there a bookmark patch that works with cvs code?
23.11.13 #       <scott666> if it doesnt just mention it to the creator and he'll probably update
23.19.46 #       <Plugh> I dropped him a line
23.19.59 #       <Plugh> there were 2 failed patches
23.20.11 #       <Plugh> but there's been a lot of changes to cvs lately
23.30.13 #       <Plugh> cool. Benjamin's gonna look into releasing a new patch tonight
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23.38.55 #       <MT> hmm
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23.45.44 #       <BoD[]> youhou
23.52.55 #       <Plugh> hi Bag and BoD
23.53.15 #       <Bagder> hey
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23.54.19 #       <Plugh> lotta checkins over the last day or two
23.54.32 #       <Plugh> I just flashed them in
23.54.44 #       <Bagder> yeah, Björn woke up ;-)
23.55.03 #       <Plugh> someone get him some Schnapps