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00.27.26 #       <Dogger> hi does anyone know how to get the serial port to work?
00.27.45 #       <Dogger> I can see the converter diagram on hardware mods page, but it doesnt say how to connect to the archos
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00.45.52 #       <tracktheripper> hi
00.45.56 #       <tracktheripper> wheres mikeholden/
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00.47.37 #       <midknight2k3> hey zagor
00.47.39 #       <midknight2k3> hey track
00.48.10 #       <tracktheripper> ello
00.49.51 #       <tracktheripper> could small .zip folders be uncompressed by Rockbox?
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00.52.39 #       <Dude> Midknight!
00.52.47 #       <Dude> Oh Midknight!
00.57.16 #       <Plugh> watch this
00.57.18 #       <Plugh> mid
00.57.19 #       <Plugh> DING
00.58.54 #       <midknight2k3> no stereo, plug
00.59.09 #       <Plugh> some Dude was looking for you
01.00.38 #       <tracktheripper> midknight is ur vu done?
01.04.17 #       <midknight2k3> argh
01.04.17 #       <tracktheripper> hello?
01.04.20 #       <midknight2k3> i know that
01.04.58 #       <tracktheripper> is ur vu doen/
01.08.40 #       <midknight2k3> zagor?
01.11.14 #       <midknight2k3> oh
01.11.23 #       <midknight2k3> we should get a menu to change ata standby time
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01.31.59 #       <midknight2k3> zagor
01.32.03 #       <midknight2k3> i have problems flashing
01.32.07 #       <midknight2k3> think you can help?
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01.48.04 #       <Dude> Sorry midknight, I've calmed down, promise.
01.57.58 ***     Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
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02.08.37 #       <midknight2k3> PLUGH!
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02.10.50 #       <diddystar5> hey mid
02.10.58 #       <midknight2k3> DIDDY!
02.11.01 #       <midknight2k3> Great WORK!
02.11.05 #       <midknight2k3> i was just using it!
02.11.06 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.11.26 #       <midknight2k3> can you dcc that c file?
02.11.32 #       <midknight2k3> i can add my improvements
02.11.41 #       <diddystar5> well   i need to make that scale before i make a patch
02.11.48 #       <diddystar5> ok   one minute
02.11.48 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
02.11.59 #       <midknight2k3> but i need to make my improvments before you make the patch
02.12.00 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.12.05 #       <midknight2k3> if you decide to keep them
02.12.27 #       <diddystar5> ok dccing now
02.12.41 #       <midknight2k3> ty
02.12.44 #       <midknight2k3> great work
02.13.18 #       <diddystar5> there is only one place that has the lcd functions
02.13.21 #       <Plugh> zup mid
02.13.59 #       <midknight2k3> het pluggy
02.14.09 #       <midknight2k3> hey*
02.14.10 #       <diddystar5> hey plugh   wanna try my vu meter?
02.14.14 #       <diddystar5> yep mid?
02.14.16 #       <midknight2k3> its cool
02.14.24 #       <midknight2k3> nothing
02.14.31 #       <Plugh> yead did
02.14.35 #       <Plugh> yeah
02.14.38 #       <midknight2k3> you did?
02.14.43 #       <diddystar5> ok    DCC ok for you?
02.14.44 #       <Plugh> that's something I would use
02.14.46 #       <Plugh> sure
02.14.50 #       <midknight2k3> oh
02.14.55 #       <midknight2k3> i thought you said you tried it alreayd
02.15.02 #       <Plugh> me?
02.15.05 #       <midknight2k3> it has a few bugs, but it works yet
02.15.08 #       <midknight2k3> a milestone
02.15.10 #       <diddystar5> well    it does kinda work   but it needs a scale beacuse the needles go all over the place
02.15.15 #       <Plugh> hehe
02.15.18 #       <midknight2k3> and sometimes freeze
02.15.20 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.15.28 #       <midknight2k3> mine are stuck off the screen
02.15.30 #       <Plugh> well, a start is a start
02.15.33 #       <Plugh> is it a rock?
02.15.34 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
02.15.36 #       <midknight2k3> yep
02.15.55 #       <diddystar5> source or a rock
02.15.56 #       <midknight2k3> diddy: you told them to stick to the top line?
02.15.56 #       <Plugh> ok cool. Glad I don't have to wedge it into my "kernel"
02.16.39 #       <diddystar5> midknight2k3: what?
02.16.58 #       <midknight2k3> they strech or shrink to stay exactly about 5 pixels away from the upper line
02.17.36 #       <diddystar5> yes       i guess i need to make the Y scale change also...
02.17.51 #       <Plugh> will that rock work under current cvs, and on an FMR?
02.17.57 #       <midknight2k3> it should
02.18.00 #       <diddystar5> Plugh: yes
02.18.12 #       <midknight2k3> make sure you play a song before loading it!
02.18.14 #       <diddystar5> make with the lastest src  and for a FM
02.18.25 #       <midknight2k3> i think we got that illinstr error fixed, right?
02.18.30 #       <diddystar5> yes
02.18.34 #       <midknight2k3> good
02.18.43 #       <midknight2k3> improvement time
02.18.50 #       <diddystar5> but if the needle goes to far to the left,   the jb will hang....
02.18.53 #       <Plugh> send me the source
02.18.58 #       <diddystar5> but im adding limits soon
02.19.05 #       <midknight2k3> how long do you have diddy?
02.19.09 #       <diddystar5> Plugh: i guess i could...
02.19.19 #       <diddystar5> midknight2k3: a while    not sure
02.19.23 #       <midknight2k3> he's gonna finish it and submit it before you and rip it off
02.19.29 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.19.36 #       <midknight2k3> longer than 10 minutes?
02.19.38 #       <Plugh> bah
02.19.48 #       <Plugh> I'm not gonna rip it off
02.19.53 #       <midknight2k3> we know
02.19.54 #       <Plugh> but mebbe I can hack at it
02.19.59 #       <midknight2k3> yay
02.20.47 #       <diddystar5> Plugh: hack away     just don't make it a patch please     it's my code  ;) * Copyright (C) 2003 Lee Pilgrim
02.20.54 #       <midknight2k3> he won't
02.20.56 #       <midknight2k3> he's nice
02.21.07 #       <midknight2k3> he stalks me
02.21.31 #       <Plugh> how do I get back to the browser while playing?
02.21.37 #       <midknight2k3> on
02.22.02 #       <diddystar5> press off
02.22.09 #       <midknight2k3> ?
02.22.14 #       <midknight2k3> while playing it's on
02.22.16 #       <midknight2k3> off is stop
02.22.22 #       <midknight2k3> off is to exit plugin
02.22.24 #       <diddystar5> ohhhh       it must have hung
02.22.35 #       <midknight2k3> i think he meant from wps
02.22.38 #       <diddystar5> just have to force your unit off
02.22.40 #       <midknight2k3> didnt he?
02.22.52 #       <midknight2k3> you have to play a song
02.22.55 #       <midknight2k3> to make it work
02.22.57 #       <midknight2k3> or it will hang
02.23.01 #       <Plugh> okay it works
02.23.06 #       <midknight2k3> yay
02.23.07 #       <Plugh> not a lot of swing
02.23.08 #       <midknight2k3> rejoice
02.23.14 #       <midknight2k3> the scale isnt finished
02.23.20 #       <Plugh> what I'm most interested in is a dB meter
02.23.21 #       <diddystar5> Plugh: thats why it needs a scale :)
02.23.30 #       <midknight2k3> db meter?
02.23.40 #       <midknight2k3> i was actually planning a few "mods" to it
02.23.42 #       <diddystar5> db meter wouldn't be very hard i think
02.23.45 #       <midknight2k3> which are in the works
02.23.57 #       <diddystar5> midknight2k3: mods
02.23.59 #       <Plugh> I want to be able to set it next to a speaker and tell me how much sound pressure is on the mic
02.24.12 #       <midknight2k3> diddystar5:?
02.24.19 #       <midknight2k3> hm
02.24.30 #       <diddystar5> midknight2k3: 
02.24.30 #       <diddystar5> <midknight2k3> i was actually planning a few "mods" to it
02.24.37 #       <midknight2k3> yeah..
02.24.48 #       <midknight2k3> "mods" == mods
02.24.54 #       <Plugh> so I want it to work in record mode ;)
02.24.55 #       <midknight2k3> modifications
02.25.00 #       <diddystar5> ok...      mods to?...
02.25.09 #       <midknight2k3> the vu meter perhaps?
02.25.09 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.25.20 #       <midknight2k3> no, actually i was thinking to main.c
02.25.30 #       <midknight2k3> <joke>
02.25.52 #       <diddystar5> well      get busy mid    i dont have forever
02.26.03 #       <midknight2k3> what am i doing? workin on it
02.26.17 #       <diddystar5> no       your talking in irc
02.26.25 #       <midknight2k3> oh boy
02.26.30 #       <midknight2k3> i cant talk while it builds?
02.26.32 #       <midknight2k3> and copies?
02.29.20 #       <diddystar5> midknight2k3: your puter must be slow :)
02.29.28 #       <midknight2k3> i'm working
02.29.28 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.29.33 #       <midknight2k3> that was three minutes late
02.29.59 #       <midknight2k3> okay
02.30.03 #       <Plugh> small rock. Shouldn't be too hard to rip to shreds, re-write it, and race the release ;)
02.30.04 #       <midknight2k3> something just happened oddly
02.30.10 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.30.38 #       <midknight2k3> ohh oooops
02.30.46 #       <Plugh> seriously, though. Good work did
02.31.05 #       <diddystar5> well thanks plugh
02.31.26 #       <midknight2k3> i second that
02.31.28 #       <midknight2k3> well
02.31.31 #       <midknight2k3> i fifth that
02.31.32 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.31.43 #       <Plugh> FAR better than redzone ;)
02.31.48 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.32.00 #       * Plugh blows a kiss at mid
02.32.02 #       <Plugh> DING
02.32.08 #       <midknight2k3> i ripped that redzone from hardeep--- i mean, i uh
02.32.12 #       <midknight2k3> erm
02.32.14 #       <midknight2k3> oops
02.32.43 #       <Plugh> mhm
02.32.52 #       <midknight2k3> did i say ripped off?
02.32.53 #       <midknight2k3> heh
02.32.55 #       <midknight2k3> i meant to say
02.32.56 #       <midknight2k3> uh
02.33.01 #       <midknight2k3> got the idea from
02.34.35 #       <diddystar5> this is interesting: http://www.funmp3players.com/forum/topic.asp?topic_id=7038&forum_id=8&Topic_Title=Archos+Recorders+Changed+%2D+Get+Used+To+It&forum_title=General+%2D+Jukebox+Player%2FRecorder&M=False&S=True
02.34.50 #       <Plugh> wow. that's ugly
02.35.09 #       <diddystar5> yep
02.35.16 #       <Plugh> http://tinyurl.com/p94p
02.35.18 #       <midknight2k3> neat
02.36.22 #       <Plugh> sheesh. what a mistake
02.36.35 #       <midknight2k3> i want to see a picture of this recorder
02.37.19 #       <Plugh> ftp://anonymous@sharphouse.dyndns.org/public/recorder20.jpg
02.37.29 #       <midknight2k3> does it work for you?
02.37.36 #       <Plugh> yeah
02.37.40 #       <midknight2k3> exac--oh
02.37.51 #       <diddystar5> ehh   looks cool
02.38.08 #       <midknight2k3> I STILL DIDNT SEE IT
02.38.09 #       <midknight2k3> wait!
02.38.13 #       <midknight2k3> dont go on without me
02.38.29 #       <Plugh> hrm... that's shitty
02.38.40 #       <midknight2k3> I GET AN ERROR
02.38.41 #       <Plugh> they don't make the FMR anymore
02.38.49 #       <midknight2k3> fmr SUCKED
02.38.53 #       <midknight2k3> still sucks
02.39.34 #       <Plugh> http://www.mudbarn.com/~plugh/images/recorder20.jpg
02.40.16 #       <midknight2k3> what the hell?
02.40.18 #       <midknight2k3> its a fmr
02.40.20 #       <midknight2k3> without the fm
02.40.26 #       <Plugh> yeah
02.40.32 #       <Plugh> they stopped making the fmr
02.40.41 #       <midknight2k3>  hrm... that's shitty
02.40.52 #       <Plugh> I agree
02.40.56 #       <midknight2k3> i know
02.41.02 #       <midknight2k3> i copied it from you
02.41.04 #       <Plugh> the LiIon battery is dumb
02.41.06 #       <diddystar5> looks cool       but with all the problems the fm's had
02.41.10 #       <midknight2k3> i'll say
02.41.12 #       <midknight2k3> right
02.41.17 #       <midknight2k3> its an fm without the fm
02.41.23 #       <Plugh> yep
02.41.47 #       <midknight2k3> that's like water without the liquid
02.41.51 #       <Plugh> I wonder if it can be rocked out
02.41.54 #       <midknight2k3> a watch that won't tell time
02.42.03 #       <midknight2k3> prolly uses rockbox-proof coding
02.42.04 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.42.11 #       <Plugh> erm it's an mp3 player that plays mp3s
02.42.16 #       <midknight2k3> well yeah
02.42.22 #       <midknight2k3> but its an fmr wihout the fm
02.42.30 #       <midknight2k3> that's like a dad without the da
02.42.54 #       <Plugh> yeah. Same crappy case design that encourages scratched displays and busted buttons
02.43.01 #       <midknight2k3> correct
02.43.09 #       <midknight2k3> i wish i had the rec 20 - v1
02.43.20 #       <Plugh> ditto
02.43.24 #       <midknight2k3> i thought the FMR was BETTER!
02.43.31 #       <midknight2k3> i at one time WANTED the fmr!
02.43.33 #       <Plugh> oh well, I bought what I bought
02.43.35 #       <midknight2k3> but it SUCKS!!!!
02.43.37 #       <Plugh> no going back
02.43.39 #       * diddystar5 has a rec 20 v1     with the cooler black bumpers
02.43.43 #       <midknight2k3> i'll say
02.43.47 #       * midknight2k3 is jealous
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02.44.42 #       <diddystar5> the fm's were released like one week after i got my rec 20      i i wished i had a fm for a while
02.44.48 #       <midknight2k3> heh
02.44.49 #       <diddystar5> dude!
02.44.50 #       <midknight2k3> you don't
02.45.04 #       <midknight2k3> it sucks
02.45.06 #       <midknight2k3> big time
02.45.07 #       <Plugh> Hey dude
02.45.15 #       <Plugh> Don't make it bad.
02.45.21 #       <midknight2k3> well
02.45.23 #       <Plugh> Take a sad song and make it better
02.45.24 #       <midknight2k3> it is
02.45.29 #       <midknight2k3> ok
02.45.36 #       <Plugh> Remember to let her into your heart,
02.45.37 #       <midknight2k3> its 4/5 the weight of rec20's
02.45.41 #       <Plugh> Then you can start
02.45.47 #       <Plugh> To make it better
02.45.54 #       <diddystar5> midknight2k3: gotta go     email me your changes later  :)
02.45.59 #       <diddystar5> bye
02.46.01 #       <midknight2k3> ah well
02.46.01 #       <midknight2k3> bye
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02.48.17 #       <midknight2k3> plugh?
02.48.23 #       <Plugh> what
02.48.26 #       <midknight2k3> are you hacking at the vu meter?
02.48.40 #       <Plugh> more like packing to go home from work
02.48.53 #       <midknight2k3> why? you basically live at owrk
02.48.55 #       <midknight2k3> work*
02.49.06 #       <Plugh> my wife seems to think so
02.49.20 #       <midknight2k3> i do too
02.49.30 #       <midknight2k3> all day
02.49.42 #       <Plugh> like I keep telling you, she's better looking than you
02.49.54 #       <midknight2k3> forget it
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03.13.08 #       <midknight2k3> plug sucks
03.18.03 #       <Plugh> like a muddafuggin black hole, baby
03.18.24 #       <midknight2k3> oh
03.18.27 #       <midknight2k3> i forgot that one
03.18.32 #       <midknight2k3> only if i ask nicely
03.18.36 #       <midknight2k3> i'm losing my touch
03.18.39 #       <Plugh> yep
03.18.43 #       <midknight2k3> plug STINKS.
03.18.44 #       <midknight2k3> there
03.18.56 #       <Plugh> quit poking smot
03.19.00 #       <midknight2k3> ?
03.19.20 #       <ze> thats kinda funny, when he said stinks i thought of how nicely pot plants stink
03.19.42 #       <Plugh> they stink SO good
03.19.44 #       <midknight2k3> hilarious
03.19.49 #       <ze> they do
03.19.52 #       <midknight2k3> this is going nowhere
03.20.05 #       <Plugh> quit while you're behind
03.20.07 #       <Plugh> ;)
03.20.12 #       <midknight2k3> i quit
03.20.13 #       <midknight2k3> but
03.20.19 #       <midknight2k3> plug does su------ stink
03.21.04 #       <Plugh> especially after a few joints and a loaf of garlic bread
03.21.12 #       <ze> pussy stinks good too... hey whats up with that, why is it always females that have good stinks?
03.21.12 #       <midknight2k3> okay
03.22.08 #       <ze> doesn't seem fair
03.23.19 #       <Plugh> hmm. yet another Californian
03.23.27 #       <ze> heh
03.25.05 #       <ze> hey that sounds like it implys some sort of 'typical'ness, and despite the indication of my previous statements, there's nothing typical about me :p
03.25.17 #       <midknight2k3> implies
03.25.27 #       <ze> thankyou
03.25.35 #       <ze> how about 'typical'ness?
03.25.38 #       <Plugh> I wasn't implying typicalness
03.25.49 #       <midknight2k3> good enough, ze
03.25.57 #       <Plugh> I was implying that you see the sun in about the same point in the sky as me
03.25.57 #       <midknight2k3> typicality might be better
03.26.01 #       <ze> oh ok
03.26.12 #       <midknight2k3> typicality it is
03.26.15 #       <ze> i don't see the sun much though
03.26.21 #       <midknight2k3> niether does plug!
03.26.21 #       <midknight2k3> neat
03.26.53 #       <ze> i'd like to see it more, but it must be properly framed; congrete and smog just doesn't do it for me
03.26.59 #       <ze> concrete even
03.27.50 #       <ze> well, concrete and smog does do something for me, but it's not something desirable
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03.27.59 #       <midknight2k3> sigh
03.28.08 #       <elinenbe> is Zagor here?
03.29.00 #       <midknight2k3> he's here
03.29.03 #       <midknight2k3> just not.. here
03.29.08 #       <midknight2k3> afaik
03.29.11 #       <midknight2k3> i thought he left
03.29.17 #       <midknight2k3> i guess not
03.29.24 #       <midknight2k3> plug: can i have that otis?
03.29.58 #       <Plugh> as soon as I find it again I'm gonna use it
03.30.09 #       <midknight2k3> rats
03.30.15 #       <midknight2k3> lose it then use it
03.30.48 #       <Plugh> my maid packed it in a box and put it in the storage shed with 30 other boxes
03.30.58 #       <Plugh> and I'm too lazy to go digging through all of them
03.31.00 #       <midknight2k3> maid.. psh yeah right
03.31.10 #       <midknight2k3> plug has a maid>
03.31.15 #       <Plugh> cheap Mexican labor at its best
03.31.22 #       <midknight2k3> seriously?
03.31.26 #       <Plugh> yeah
03.31.31 #       <midknight2k3> plug has a maid.
03.31.34 #       <midknight2k3> hahha
03.31.39 #       <ze> i need something to create musical scores with that saves in a format that can be converted with scripts to arbitrary score formats for use in a script-based physical-model synthesizer
03.31.41 #       <midknight2k3> i can't see THIS GUY with a MAID.
03.31.48 #       <midknight2k3> oh yeah ze
03.31.55 #       <midknight2k3> i heard you talk about that thing
03.31.58 #       <midknight2k3> you make the sound
03.32.00 #       <Plugh> midknight2k3: it's a California thing
03.32.03 #       <midknight2k3> you made symbols or something
03.32.12 #       <midknight2k3> cymbols
03.32.13 #       <Plugh> I have a former roommate who fucks his maid
03.32.14 #       <ze> yeah a bowed cymbol
03.32.18 #       <midknight2k3> hahah
03.32.26 #       <ze> i don't have a maid
03.32.30 #       <midknight2k3> hahah  was directed at ze
03.32.30 #       <ze> but then i live with my parents
03.32.31 #       <midknight2k3> not plug
03.32.38 #       <midknight2k3> smash their tv, ze
03.32.44 #       <ze> fuck you :p
03.32.49 #       <midknight2k3> why not?
03.32.51 #       <ze> their TV is a 60" rear-projector anyway
03.32.55 #       <midknight2k3> it's "jolly good fun"
03.32.59 #       <midknight2k3> your parents tv
03.33.01 #       <midknight2k3> its a crt
03.33.03 #       <midknight2k3> correct?
03.33.05 #       <ze> no
03.33.06 #       <midknight2k3> in their room
03.33.09 #       <ze> oh
03.33.09 #       <ze> yeah
03.33.14 #       <ze> but still
03.33.14 #       <ze> heh
03.33.17 #       <midknight2k3> do i know you or what
03.33.25 #       <ze> i'm not really interested in smashing tv's
03.33.30 #       <ze> it's not a satisfying endeavor for me
03.33.36 #       <midknight2k3> sigh
03.33.58 #       <ze> indeed i'd be happy to forget that tv exists
03.34.07 #       <ze> as long as i can download entertainment
03.34.07 #       <ze> heh
03.34.11 #       <midknight2k3> why? you dont like tv?
03.34.13 #       <midknight2k3> good
03.34.18 #       <midknight2k3> smash tvs to show your opinions
03.34.23 #       <ze> dinner's ready
03.34.24 #       <midknight2k3> try it
03.34.30 #       <midknight2k3> it's relieving
03.34.34 #       <ze> nah, you play into it one way or the other and you're still playing into it
03.34.42 #       <ze> don't take either option, exclude yourself from the game
03.34.42 #       <ze> :p
03.34.48 #       <midknight2k3> uh
03.34.50 #       <ze> but dinner's ready, bbl
03.34.50 #       <midknight2k3> whatever
03.34.52 #       <midknight2k3> ok
03.34.56 #       <midknight2k3> plug
03.34.58 #       <midknight2k3> help me
03.35.06 #       <midknight2k3> did you flash the on button fix?
03.35.14 #       * Plugh throws a lifebuoy
03.35.19 #       <Plugh> yeah
03.35.27 #       <midknight2k3> does your UCL flash work/
03.35.32 #       <midknight2k3> mine says no image found
03.35.34 #       <midknight2k3> always
03.35.43 #       <midknight2k3> i tried different ucls, different days and all
03.35.51 #       <midknight2k3> always a no image found
03.35.53 #       <midknight2k3> help
03.35.54 #       <Plugh> nah. it's a bin first
03.35.59 #       <midknight2k3> uh
03.36.03 #       <midknight2k3> for rockbox flash
03.36.06 #       <midknight2k3> not firmware flash
03.36.11 #       <midknight2k3> this happened after firmware flash
03.36.19 #       <Plugh> oh
03.36.20 #       <midknight2k3> now after the on fix its happeneding
03.36.25 #       <Plugh> hmm. Just play the ucl
03.36.29 #       <midknight2k3> UH
03.36.36 #       <midknight2k3> AM I RETARDED? you think im retarded
03.36.41 #       <midknight2k3> i tried that idiot
03.36.46 #       <midknight2k3> thats how you update it in the first place
03.36.48 #       <midknight2k3> what a retard
03.37.00 #       <midknight2k3> it just pops up with, "no image found
03.37.07 #       <Plugh> fuck you then. I'm just trying to help
03.37.12 #       <midknight2k3> sorry
03.37.28 #       <midknight2k3> i am a retard
03.37.39 #       <midknight2k3> any other ideas?
03.37.51 #       <Plugh> so you ran rockbox_flash, right?
03.37.59 #       <midknight2k3> i played the ucl
03.38.09 #       <Plugh> so you ran rockbox_flash, right?
03.38.24 #       <midknight2k3> i'lll try...
03.38.36 #       <Plugh> you need rockbox.ucl in your root dir
03.38.42 #       <Plugh> that's the image it's looking for
03.38.48 #       <midknight2k3> i know
03.38.50 #       <midknight2k3> not working
03.38.53 #       <Plugh> it needs to be named that
03.38.54 #       <midknight2k3> let me get a new ucl JIC
03.39.05 #       <Plugh> best to just flash his
03.39.12 #       <midknight2k3> his what
03.39.12 #       <Plugh> then you can flash your custom
03.39.23 #       <midknight2k3> his is in
03.39.26 #       <Plugh> didn't you get the flash package?
03.39.28 #       <midknight2k3> it's Ver: FlashEdition
03.39.32 #       <midknight2k3> right
03.39.43 #       <midknight2k3> i need to flash his ucl and that primes it for newer ucls?
03.39.52 #       <Plugh> right
03.39.58 #       <midknight2k3> oh
03.40.01 #       <midknight2k3> let me try
03.40.04 #       <Plugh> that's what he told me
03.40.09 #       <midknight2k3> odd
03.40.13 #       <midknight2k3> makes no sense
03.40.15 #       <Plugh> I thought so too
03.40.28 #       <Plugh> but when I followed his directions to the letter, it worked
03.40.31 #       <midknight2k3> why not just let us go from the start
03.40.35 #       <Plugh> I stopped thinking
03.40.38 #       <Plugh> and did it
03.40.47 #       <Plugh> thinking only got me in trouble
03.41.16 #       <midknight2k3> hm
03.42.44 #       <midknight2k3> i actually can't say i see a rockbox.ucl in his fm package
03.43.02 #       <midknight2k3> what gives
03.44.42 #       <midknight2k3> any other ideas? plugh?
03.45.54 #       <Plugh> hm. it was there for mine
03.46.16 #       <midknight2k3> i swear its not here
03.46.23 #       <midknight2k3> you d/l it an see if its there
03.47.19 #       <Plugh> you want mine?
03.47.27 #       <midknight2k3> rockbox.ucl?
03.47.29 #       <midknight2k3> if it works
03.47.31 #       <Plugh> yeah
03.47.35 #       <Plugh> works for me
03.47.37 #       <midknight2k3> i'll try it
03.47.38 #       <midknight2k3> dcc?
03.47.47 #       <Plugh> yeah. gimme a min to upload it
03.47.57 #       <midknight2k3> okay
03.48.38 #       <Plugh> sending
03.50.33 #       <midknight2k3> still an error
03.51.21 #       <midknight2k3> hm
03.52.17 #       <Plugh> you ran rockbox_flash.rock with that ucl in the root dir?
03.52.45 #       <midknight2k3> hang on
03.53.10 #       <Plugh> or did you need me to send rockbox_flash too?
03.53.23 #       <midknight2k3> no.. sec
03.54.10 #       <midknight2k3> MY KNEE!
03.54.13 #       <midknight2k3> ouch
03.55.50 #       <Plugh> MY SPLEEN
03.56.07 #       <midknight2k3> what happened to your spleen?
03.56.15 #       <Plugh> you ever watch The Tick?
03.56.26 #       <midknight2k3> nio
03.56.32 #       <midknight2k3> you ever watch The Core?
03.56.36 #       <Plugh> ah. funny show. Very slackful
03.56.44 #       <Plugh> huh? What's that?
03.56.47 #       <midknight2k3> psh
03.56.54 #       <midknight2k3> the core?
03.56.58 #       <midknight2k3> oh come on
03.57.00 #       <Plugh> I haven't watched TV in 3 or 4 years
03.57.02 #       <Plugh> what?
03.57.03 #       <midknight2k3> they dont have movies where you live?
03.57.13 #       <midknight2k3> it's a movie
03.57.14 #       <Plugh> oh. I'm sure they do
03.57.19 #       <midknight2k3> thank god
03.57.22 #       <Plugh> looked lame in the box office
03.57.24 #       <midknight2k3> i almost thought...
03.57.29 #       <midknight2k3> it was pretty good
03.57.42 #       <midknight2k3> better than the previews
03.57.52 #       <Plugh> ah
03.58.02 ***     Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
03.58.04 #       <Plugh> trying to remember what I last saw in the theater
03.58.19 #       <Plugh> I'm drawing a blank. I think it was Two Towers
03.58.58 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.59.02 #       <midknight2k3> the core! the core!
03.59.08 #       <midknight2k3> rock on! rock box!
03.59.10 #       <midknight2k3> er
03.59.13 #       <midknight2k3> rock on, not rockbox
03.59.26 #       <midknight2k3> I AM SO SICK OF SAYING ROCKBOX WHEN I MEANT TO SAY ROCKBX
03.59.28 #       <midknight2k3> ROCKS*
03.59.33 #       <midknight2k3> then they're like, rockbox?
03.59.51 #       <Plugh> then you whip it out of your pants and show them?
04.00.06 #       <midknight2k3> no..
04.02.17 #       <midknight2k3> now it works
04.02.25 #       <midknight2k3> got a new .rockbox - mine was messed up
04.02.27 #       <Plugh> I rule
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04.02.38 #       <midknight2k3> it wasnt really you, but thx a lot anyways
04.04.25 #       <Plugh> copying Redhat CDs for my laptop
04.04.32 #       <Plugh> it's gonna be my car computer
04.04.33 #       <midknight2k3> use mandrake
04.04.35 #       <midknight2k3> it's better
04.05.19 #       <Plugh> I used to be the Mandrake mastah! I got EVERYONE using it. Then they boned up the installer after 8
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04.05.38 #       <midknight2k3> boned up the installer?
04.05.46 #       <Plugh> heh. I used to alpha test BitchX for panasync
04.05.49 #       <midknight2k3> so now you use redhat cause it installes simpler?
04.06.05 #       <Plugh> then he got all elitist and went off to be with new friends
04.06.13 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.06.41 #       <Plugh> I've known him for about 10 yrs
04.07.33 #       <Plugh> I use redhat cuz it's more stable. Mandrake tries to be cutting edge, and they sacrifice stability for flash
04.07.48 #       <midknight2k3> right.
04.07.59 #       <midknight2k3> you need to see the core
04.08.19 #       <midknight2k3> cmon.. anything recommended by ME can't be THAT good?
04.08.25 #       <midknight2k3> AKA don't get your hopes up
04.08.33 #       <Plugh> also, if you are installing RPMs, people tend to write them to detect Redhat dependencies. Not Mandrake.
04.09.04 #       <midknight2k3> god damn
04.09.09 #       <midknight2k3> this vu meter is stalling
04.09.17 #       <midknight2k3> oh well
04.09.36 #       <Plugh> I'll muck with it when I have some free time
04.09.43 #       <midknight2k3> i already am
04.09.44 #       <Plugh> gods only know when that will be
04.09.46 #       <midknight2k3> its looking good
04.09.57 #       <midknight2k3> can you muck with the regread?
04.10.07 #       <midknight2k3> iit keeps mucking up
04.11.48 #       <Plugh> you sure those are the right addresses for left/right current level?
04.11.55 #       <midknight2k3> i dunno
04.13.58 #       <Plugh> hehe. it's ripped right from oscillograph.c
04.14.06 #       <midknight2k3> i know
04.14.07 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.14.11 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha
04.14.20 #       <midknight2k3> that's what open source is for
04.14.23 #       <midknight2k3> ripping off
04.15.52 #       <Plugh> I have an idea...
04.16.01 #       <midknight2k3> now i am ripping off sokoban titles
04.16.02 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.16.06 #       <midknight2k3> i love open source
04.16.12 #       <Plugh> gotta spend some time to see how it's gonna work
04.16.17 #       <midknight2k3> what idea
04.16.54 #       <Plugh> but if you set the X position to the left volume and the Y position to top of screen
04.17.29 #       <Plugh> then you start the line at the bottom middle and draw to the top X,Y
04.17.38 #       <midknight2k3> hm
04.17.42 #       <midknight2k3> sorta makes sense
04.17.44 #       <midknight2k3> codable?
04.18.08 #       <Plugh> you only have to calculate one value
04.18.15 #       <midknight2k3> can you do it?
04.18.27 #       <Plugh> for each line
04.18.30 #       <Plugh> I think so
04.18.46 #       <Plugh> just need to spend some time with it. Figure out the line draw syntax
04.18.55 #       <midknight2k3> when can you do it?
04.19.36 #       <Plugh> you're asking that like I'm in charge of my own destiny
04.20.17 #       <midknight2k3> you are
04.20.28 #       <midknight2k3> i'm just anxious
04.20.58 #       <Plugh> what I really need to know is the value range returned by mas_codec_readreg(0xc) and 0xd
04.21.09 #       <midknight2k3> and that's impossible?
04.21.16 #       <Plugh> not impossible
04.21.44 #       <Plugh> I'd rather have someone tell me ;)
04.21.51 #       <midknight2k3> cmon
04.21.56 #       <midknight2k3> dont be lazy
04.22.05 #       <midknight2k3> just HAXOR
04.22.09 #       <midknight2k3> use peakmeter.
04.22.13 #       <midknight2k3> peakmeter.c*
04.22.15 #       <midknight2k3> its got some good code
04.24.50 #       <midknight2k3> its trying to rolo
04.26.03 #       <midknight2k3> FIXED
04.27.24 #       <midknight2k3> man
04.27.32 #       <midknight2k3> it inches to the side till it gets stuck
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04.37.20 #       <midknight2k3> oops
04.37.30 #       <Dogger> lol nice
04.37.46 #       <midknight2k3> you ddint see it
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04.38.03 #       <midknight2k3> did it all paste?
04.38.39 #       <Dogger> hmm dont think so
04.38.50 #       <Dogger> I got 5 lines
04.42.06 #       <Plugh> ok
04.42.11 #       <Plugh> mine doesn't lock up anymore
04.42.19 #       <midknight2k3> vu meter?
04.42.21 #       <midknight2k3> cool
04.42.21 #       <Plugh> yeah
04.42.29 #       <midknight2k3> what code changes? can you /msg them?
04.42.33 #       <Plugh> but it still inches over until both lines are pegged
04.42.51 #       <Plugh>         if(l_x22 < 0)
04.42.51 #       <Plugh>         {
04.42.51 #       <Plugh>                 l_x22 = 0;
04.42.51 #       <Plugh>         }
04.42.51 #       <Plugh>         if(r_x22 < 0)
04.42.53 #       <Plugh>         {
04.42.55 #       <Plugh>                 r_x22 = 0;
04.42.58 #       <Plugh>         }
04.43.01 #       <Plugh>         rb->lcd_clear_display();
04.43.02 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.43.05 #       <Plugh> add the if statements before the clear
04.43.17 #       <Plugh> well, it's better than locking up
04.43.20 #       <midknight2k3> wait a sec
04.43.22 #       <Plugh> and gives you an idea
04.45.00 #       <Plugh> anyhow, I see the problem. The logic is busted
04.45.25 #       <Plugh> you can't increment and decrement the X values like that
04.45.33 #       <midknight2k3> busted?
04.45.36 #       <midknight2k3> fix it then
04.45.53 #       <Plugh> you have to figure out what the scale is and set the hard value
04.45.58 #       <Plugh> I will. Gimme time
04.46.26 #       <Plugh> anyhow, till then, I've given you a fix for the lockup
04.46.58 #       <midknight2k3> how long for the fix?
04.47.21 #       <Plugh> an hour, a day, a month?
04.47.26 #       <Plugh> I dunno
04.47.38 #       <midknight2k3> i hope closer to an hour
04.47.39 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.47.45 #       <Plugh> not bloody likely
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04.48.03 #       <midknight2k3> sure, "chap"
04.48.20 #       <Plugh> like I said, first I gotta figure out what the range of returned values is
04.48.47 #       <midknight2k3> okay
04.48.49 #       <midknight2k3> do experiment
04.48.51 #       <midknight2k3> s
04.49.08 #       <Plugh> and for that I'll probably need to craft a wav file and convert to mp3 that has a gradual volume curve from silent to +50dB or something
04.49.20 #       <midknight2k3> good
04.49.37 #       <Plugh> you wanna do that part while I'm on the train home?
04.49.50 #       <midknight2k3> i cant
04.50.04 #       <Plugh> why not? No wav editing software?
04.50.42 #       <Plugh> geez. what use are ya?
04.50.45 #       <Plugh> heh
04.50.58 #       <midknight2k3> i have cool edit
04.51.01 #       <midknight2k3> i think it expired
04.51.02 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.52.21 #       <Plugh> cooledit is perfect
04.52.35 #       <midknight2k3> if it works
04.52.47 #       <Plugh> I need a sine wave that starts at 0 volume and goes to max over a period of a minute
04.53.29 #       <midknight2k3> i cant make a sine wave
04.53.34 #       <midknight2k3> archos cant even play wave
04.53.49 #       <Plugh> so convert it dummie
04.53.57 #       <midknight2k3> UH
04.54.06 #       <midknight2k3> why ask for a wav when i could make it mp3 in the first place?
04.54.15 #       <midknight2k3> call me a dummy
04.54.16 #       <midknight2k3> psh
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04.54.50 #       <midknight2k3> good going
04.55.01 #       <Plugh> flood
04.55.13 #       <midknight2k3> can you paste the code change again and what to do?
05.00.03 #       <Plugh> okay. got the wav file
05.00.10 #       <midknight2k3> me
05.00.10 #       <midknight2k3> ?
05.00.16 #       <midknight2k3> you got it?
05.00.20 #       <Plugh> white noise that goes from -160dB to 20dB
05.00.25 #       <midknight2k3> neat
05.00.28 #       <Plugh> yeah. I made it in goldwave
05.00.32 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.02.34 #       <Plugh> cool
05.02.38 #       <Plugh> saved as mp3
05.02.48 #       <midknight2k3> how about that change log thing
05.02.56 #       <midknight2k3> so it wont get stuck!
05.03.28 #       <midknight2k3> aww
05.03.31 #       <midknight2k3> it got stuck
05.03.36 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.03.40 #       <midknight2k3> can you please
05.03.43 #       <midknight2k3> message it
05.07.37 #       <Plugh> ack
05.07.46 #       <Plugh> he's not resetting the plugin properly
05.07.51 #       <Plugh> it fucked the screen
05.07.59 #       <midknight2k3> oops
05.08.06 #       <midknight2k3> that's my fault
05.08.11 #       <midknight2k3> i provided that part of the code
05.09.03 #       <Plugh> it's not too bad. I just loaded and stopped cube
05.09.21 #       <midknight2k3> i didnt provide that
05.09.23 #       <midknight2k3> it was a joke
05.09.24 #       <midknight2k3> i cant do that
05.09.32 #       <midknight2k3> i dont even know what youre talking about
05.09.54 #       <midknight2k3> it moves the wrong
05.09.56 #       <midknight2k3> way
05.10.03 #       <midknight2k3> like it goes down if its supposed to go up
05.10.04 #       <midknight2k3> i think
05.10.10 #       <Plugh> well, I just kept it from locking up
05.10.16 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.10.20 #       <midknight2k3> it was always like this
05.10.21 #       <Plugh> I didn't claim to fix it
05.10.21 #       <midknight2k3> thanks
05.10.21 #       <Dogger> anyone know where I can see info on UART boot mod?
05.10.23 #       <midknight2k3> it works
05.10.31 #       <midknight2k3> i know a picture of it
05.10.33 #       <Plugh> rockbox.haxx.se
05.10.34 #       <Dogger> ity refers to it in docs, but I cant find any info on it
05.10.36 #       <Plugh> look in the docs
05.10.39 #       <Dogger> have
05.10.45 #       <Plugh> hm I saw it there
05.10.46 #       <midknight2k3> hardware mods?
05.10.47 #       <Dogger> rs232 mod is there
05.10.49 #       <midknight2k3> perahps
05.11.02 #       <Dogger> cant find any info on *how* to boot via rs232
05.11.29 #       <midknight2k3> me either
05.11.33 #       <midknight2k3> i looked before
05.11.37 #       <midknight2k3> they talk about it but no info
05.11.42 #       <Dogger> yep
05.11.51 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.11.57 #       <midknight2k3> it inched over and over till it got stuck
05.12.00 #       <midknight2k3> like fly paper
05.13.11 #       <Plugh> http://rockbox.haxx.se/mods/rs232.html
05.13.14 #       <Plugh> you read that?
05.13.19 #       <Dogger> yes
05.13.27 #       <Dogger> tells you how to make a converter
05.13.36 #       <Dogger> doesnt say anything about how to plug it into archos
05.13.40 #       <midknight2k3> or how to use it
05.13.41 #       <Dogger> or anything about what to do with it
05.13.46 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
05.16.09 #       <Plugh> couldn't tell ya. I've never needed to do it. You might want to drop a line on the mailing list
05.16.25 #       <Dogger> hmmmm ok
05.17.13 #       <Plugh> just don't mention the av ;)
05.18.04 #       <Dogger> lol no
05.18.13 #       <Dogger> theyr just jealous :)
05.19.20 #       <Plugh> something like that
05.19.40 #       <Plugh> more like, they know if they get an AV, it's gonna be all over
05.19.46 #       <Plugh> good-bye free time
05.19.55 #       <Dogger> http://rockbox.haxx.se/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2003-08/0625.shtml
05.20.01 #       <Dogger> this says *some* about it
05.21.18 #       <Plugh> oh
05.21.20 #       <Plugh> I see
05.21.50 #       <Plugh> it just sits there and waits for you to dump a firmware file straight across the rs-232 wire
05.22.02 #       <midknight2k3> plugh: get to work on the fix
05.22.05 #       <Dogger> as long as you mod that pin
05.22.10 #       <Plugh> right
05.22.18 #       <midknight2k3> i must leave
05.22.20 #       <midknight2k3> good work
05.22.22 #       <Dogger> doesnt sound like it can be the *official* method
05.22.23 #       <midknight2k3> you fixed it
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05.22.51 #       <Plugh> heh. I made it less broken
05.23.21 #       <Plugh> that boot mod is really hacky
05.23.29 #       <Plugh> well, I gotta get home
05.23.33 #       <Plugh> it's late
05.23.50 #       <Dogger> laters
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05.59.53 #       <Augie1993> I'm in the right place for the archos rockbox firmware, right?
06.11.25 #       <Augie1993> Anyway, I'm having trouble with my flashed FM Recorder... if anyone has an FM recorder that's not flashed w/ Rockbox, and would send me a copy of the .bin file for the Archos flash, that would be amazing.  E-mail: Augie93@optonline.net
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13.01.12 #       <webmind> ops
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13.51.59 #       <maowietts> hello everybody
13.52.01 #       <maowietts> ;)
13.52.16 #       <maowietts> I've a little problem with my archos
13.52.30 #       <maowietts> maybe someone could help me
13.52.53 #       <maowietts> I've tried to lock the archos this morning
13.53.08 #       <maowietts> and it's impossible to unlock it ;(
13.53.31 #       <maowietts> I've seen that there is a lot of doc on rockbox's website
13.53.37 #       <dwihno> lock it?
13.53.44 #       <maowietts> with a password
13.54.00 #       <maowietts> Do you see ?
13.54.17 #       <maowietts> I'm french so excuse my english
13.54.21 #       <maowietts> ;)
13.55.19 #       <maowietts> I have tried with a bootdisk with atapwd but whitout results 
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13.59.21 #       <maowietts> Nobody has a idea ?
14.00.51 #       <maowietts> to reset the archos 
14.04.53 #       <dwihno> whoa
14.04.54 #       <dwihno> :-)
14.04.58 #       <dwihno> Read the list.
14.05.45 #       <maowietts> You have an archos dwhino ?
14.07.49 #       <maowietts> you have never tried to protect it with a password ?
14.09.31 #       <maowietts> Is it a option of rockbox or of the archos itself ?
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15.18.01 #       <dwihno> I never tried to protect it
15.18.06 #       <dwihno> wups :)
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19.38.55 #       <track1> hello
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19.51.00 #       <Dogger> hi
19.52.39 #       <track1> hey dogger
19.53.42 #       <Dogger> hows it going?
19.54.03 #       <track1> Dogger do you have a wide experience of MP3s and their various codecs?
19.54.15 #       <Dogger> hmmm not particularly yet no
19.54.34 #       <track1> im just doing some tests on CBR vs VBR with some files
19.55.06 #       <Dogger> o ok,
19.55.28 #       <Dogger> I'm just starting on doing stuff on the AV models
19.55.40 #       <track1> Im turning my attention towards VBR as it seems to give a more solid and detailed sound than CBR
19.55.44 #       <Dogger> havent done much yet tho lol
19.55.51 #       <track1> even though 95% of my files are 192kbs CBR
19.55.55 #       <Dogger> sure that makes sense
19.56.11 #       <Dogger> I would have thought 192 was fine for most stuff
19.56.16 #       <Dogger> can you really tell the difference?
19.56.41 #       <track1> well in my car MP3 player the 192kbs files seemed to lack some depth and sounded brittle compared to the VBR files
19.56.51 #       <Dogger> o ok,
19.57.08 #       <Dogger> so with VBR, whats the range?
19.57.12 #       <Dogger> can you config it?
19.57.22 #       <Dogger> eg encode at 128-256 Kbps
19.57.31 #       <track1> VBR is configurable from 1% to 100%
19.57.56 #       <Dogger> o ok,
19.58.21 #       <track1> ive just encoded at 75% VBR and with the test CD the files are around 4Mb and according to Windows Media Player im achieving 398Kbs which is damn impressive
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19.58.36 #       <track1> 398kbs is the average bitrate achieved throughout the file
19.59.18 #       <track1> impressive don't you think?
19.59.45 #       <Dogger> kewl :)
20.00.01 #       <track1> im gonna to a test VBR at 1% and 100%
20.00.06 #       <track1> watch this space............
20.00.56 #       <track1> ill let u know of the results
20.02.07 #       <track1> u there dogger
20.03.17 #       <track1> anyway test done 
20.04.01 #       <track1> 1% VBR file 2,565kbs avg bitrate 222kbs
20.04.35 #       <track1> 100% VBR file, 6128kb avg bitrate a massive 518kbs
20.07.22 #       <Zagor> that's wrong. bitrate can never exceed 320kbps
20.08.09 #       <Zagor> is vmp reporting that for your file?
20.08.11 #       <Zagor> wmp
20.08.38 #       <track1> Zagor that is what Windows Media Player is reporting
20.08.58 #       <track1> on the 100% VBR file it reported 518kbs and the file is around 6meg
20.09.23 #       <track1> if u want Zagor ill play the VBR on my Archos and tell u the bitrate
20.14.06 #       <track1> ok Zagor the 100% VBRs true bitrate is 232kbs
20.14.25 #       <track1> so I don't know why Windows Media Player is telling porkies :D
20.15.13 #       <Dogger> use linux instead :)
20.15.27 #       <track1> lol
20.15.37 #       <Dogger> it doesnt lie to you
20.15.41 #       <track1> lol
20.15.52 #       <Dogger> I mean - IE moves its progress bar even when the page isnt downloading
20.15.55 #       <Dogger> thats lying
20.16.01 #       <track1> Seriosly Windows Media PLayer thinks the bitrate is 519kbs
20.18.33 #       <track1> Did you know Bill Gates is introducing WMA VBR??
20.18.37 #       <track1> cool or what!!!
20.19.46 #       <track1> and there is also a "lossless compression" version of WMA as well :)
20.21.56 #       <track1> :D
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20.27.38 #       <Dogger> er whats the point of wma?
20.27.47 #       <Dogger> mp3/ogg are obviously better
20.27.55 #       <track1> lol
20.28.03 #       <track1> wma vbr and wma lossless :D
20.32.14 #       <track1> Dogger im gonna do a test on WMA VBR to hear what it sounds like
20.32.34 #       <Dogger> I think ogg is best quality/size
20.33.03 #       <track1> lol
20.33.06 #       <track1> let me try anyway
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20.33.38 #       <track1> im gonna hear what a VBR WMA sounds like
20.34.20 #       <track1> wanna know what it sounds like?
20.34.59 #       <track1> it resembles a fingernail on a blackboard
20.37.26 #       <Dogger> lol nice
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20.39.35 #       <track1> WMA Lossless sounds as good as WAV but in smaller file sizes
20.40.03 #       <track1> Could the Archos play WAV?
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20.40.20 #       <track1> (im sure the Archos MM can play WAV files)
20.41.47 #       <track1> the size of the WMA Lossless is 31Mb
20.42.11 #       <Cjnr11> when will we have an alternative firmware for archos mm? :'(
20.43.15 #       <track1> never unfortunatly :(
20.43.23 #       <Dogger> yes we will
20.43.35 #       <Dogger> you mean the AV products?
20.43.41 #       <track1> yes
20.43.47 #       <Dogger> I am going to write one
20.43.56 #       <Dogger> checkout project avos on sourceforge
20.44.02 #       <track1> :)
20.44.07 #       <Dogger> thats me
20.44.08 #       <track1> Can the ARchos play WAV files/
20.44.15 #       <track1> cool
20.45.38 #       <Cjnr11> yes the archos play wav
20.45.55 #       <track1> i mean the normal Recorders
20.46.14 #       <Cjnr11> oh sorry
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20.50.39 #       <uski> w0000w my recorder has benn sent, i'll receive it in 2 days
20.50.50 #       <uski> yeppee, i'll be able to rockbox on my own archos :)
20.50.57 #       <track1> :)
20.51.10 #       <uski> (yea, to rockbox, isn't it a cute verb ?)
20.51.31 #       <Cjnr11> what is the M4R files?
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20.52.23 #       <Cjnr11> nobody knows it?
20.52.33 #       <uski> Cjnr11: is it rockbox related ?
20.52.58 #       <uski> if it is a file format, try www.wotsit.org
20.53.12 #       <Cjnr11> it is a file format
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20.54.39 #       <Cjnr11> nothing about M4R :(
20.54.47 #       <Cjnr11> but thanks
20.54.51 #       <Zagor> Cjnr11: where did you get the file?
20.55.10 #       <Cjnr11> i have no m4r files
20.55.29 #       <Cjnr11> i just know that the archos MM read it
20.56.17 #       <Zagor> ok. some form of mpeg-4 file then, i guess
20.56.54 #       <Cjnr11> yes
20.57.32 #       <Cjnr11> but i can't find any info
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21.11.04 #       <mojoski> hey guys
21.11.13 #       <Plugh> hi
21.11.18 #       <mojoski> anybody got a second for a quick Rockbox question?
21.11.38 #       <mojoski> I'm the proud owner of a Recorder 15Gig model..
21.11.51 #       <Plugh> I hope the answer is as quick as the question. I gotta eat :)
21.11.58 #       <mojoski> And I've been using a build of Rockbox (on of the nightlies from sometime right after 2.0 came out) for a while
21.12.27 #       <mojoski> my questions is, what is the quickest place to get a copy of rockbox with "bookmarks" enabled?
21.12.39 #       <mojoski> is that just a patch?
21.12.39 #       <Plugh> build it yourself. The only way
21.12.43 #       <mojoski> ahh
21.12.43 #       <mojoski> ok
21.12.52 #       <mojoski> was hoping there would be a binary somewhere..
21.12.54 #       <Zagor> no, he keeps a build updated on his site. hang on...
21.12.58 #       <Plugh> I've built it for the FMR
21.13.02 #       <mojoski> ahh
21.13.31 #       <mojoski> mine is not FM.. just recorder
21.13.39 #       <Zagor> www.samuraipanda.com/bookmarks-latest.zip
21.13.55 #       <mojoski> thanks dude!
21.14.00 #       <Zagor> you're welcome
21.14.03 #       <Plugh> warning. It's not completely stable
21.14.08 #       <mojoski> told you it would be quick!  ;)
21.14.12 #       <Plugh> but not devastatingly unstable
21.14.49 #       <mojoski> i usually usually use my jukebox for listening to large audiobooks from audible.com so bookmarks would be most handy!
21.15.09 #       <Plugh> same here
21.15.24 #       <Plugh> but I use goldwave to split them
21.15.29 #       <mojoski> what do you use to convert them? 
21.15.30 #       <mojoski> right
21.15.33 #       <mojoski> me too..
21.15.36 #       <Plugh> I set up cue points every half hour or so
21.15.39 #       <mojoski> I don't split them though
21.15.59 #       <Plugh> it just makes it convenient in case something crashes or gets lost
21.16.05 #       <Plugh> anyhow... pizza's here
21.16.09 #       <Zagor> i hope to merge the bookmark feature into cvs soon
21.16.13 #       <mojoski> cool
21.16.20 #       <mojoski> any idea how soon soon is?
21.16.21 #       <mojoski> :)
21.16.39 #       <Zagor> well there is a bit of work to do, so probably not this week
21.16.47 #       <mojoski> no rush, just curious
21.16.54 #       <mojoski> I reall appreciate everything you guys have done..
21.16.58 #       <mojoski> rockbox is really nice..
21.17.07 #       * Zagor bows
21.17.43 #       <mojoski> you guys rock! thanks for all the hard work on it..
21.17.57 #       <track1> Zagor im trying the bookmarks from the SamuraiPander website
21.18.00 #       <mojoski> Thos eof us out here who are not programming gurus really appreciate your efforts..
21.18.18 #       <mojoski> I'm about to try it on my recorder 15G also..
21.18.35 #       <mojoski> is there a doc anywhere that explains how to use the bookmarks?
21.18.43 #       <mojoski> or is it self evident once you get it installed?
21.18.53 #       <Zagor> i think there's a file in that zip, but i don't remember
21.18.58 #       <mojoski> ok, will chec
21.19.01 #       <mojoski> thanks again!
21.19.03 #       <mojoski> peace!
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21.19.20 #       <track1> Zagor it really works!!
21.21.07 #       <Zagor> yeah, i know
21.21.28 #       <track1> we need it in the daily builds now!
21.21.45 #       <Zagor> please stop /msging me
21.21.54 #       <track1> sorry
21.22.02 #       <track1> didn't mean to upset u
21.22.02 #       <track1> :-(
21.22.33 #       <track1> :-)
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21.27.44 #       <mojoski> hey guys.. one more dumb question.
21.28.40 #       <Zagor> fire away
21.28.45 #       <mojoski> I know what the ajbrec.ajc file is.. but what is a rockbox.ucl file?
21.29.03 #       <Zagor> it's for burning rockbox into the flash rom
21.29.29 #       <mojoski> ahh
21.29.30 #       <mojoski> cool
21.29.36 #       <mojoski> I won't try that yet..
21.29.40 #       <mojoski> maybe this weekend..
21.29.48 #       <Zagor> :)
21.29.54 #       <mojoski> so all I nee dis the ajc file in the recorder folder then..
21.29.58 #       <mojoski> ok, thanks again!
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21.36.11 #       <Plugh> Zagor, do you know the range of values returned by rb->mas_codec_readreg(0xC) and rb->mas_codec_readreg(0xD)?
21.36.28 #       <Zagor> not off the top of my head, no
21.36.37 #       <Plugh> do you know where to find them?
21.37.00 #       <Plugh> there's not much documentation of the plugin api
21.37.02 #       <Plugh> :(
21.39.13 #       <Plugh> oh. cool. Found something I might be able to use
21.39.54 #       <Plugh> I made a test mp3 that is white noise that ranges from -160dB to +20dB over 1 minute
21.40.30 #       <Plugh> and it's the 0xC and 0xD values can be read in the debug menu
21.41.39 #       <uski> Plugh: what are these regs intended for ?
21.42.34 #       <Plugh> sound output
21.42.46 #       <Plugh> instantaneous volume measurements
21.43.11 #       <uski> oh ok
21.43.20 #       <Plugh> it's used in visualization plugins
21.43.23 #       <uski> left and right i presume :)
21.43.30 #       <Plugh> yep
21.44.38 #       <Plugh> someone was writing a rock that was VU represented by moving needles, like old analog recording equipment
21.44.49 #       <uski> k
21.45.00 #       <Plugh> the logic they used was a little broken, and I'm trying to fix it a bit
21.45.04 #       <Zagor> Plugh: look in the MAS datasheets. those functions just read MAS registers.
21.45.18 #       <Plugh> cool Zag. Thanks
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21.51.33 #       <Plugh> okie. got my answer
21.51.39 #       <Plugh> looks lika about 6fff
21.52.15 #       <Plugh> probably less, but close enough for rockbox
21.52.29 #       * uski is dreaming that there was some registers that hold FFT values
21.53.57 #       <Plugh> oh. even better
21.54.02 #       <Plugh> 16 bit value :)
21.54.10 #       <Plugh> er 15 bit
21.55.02 #       <uski> what's the resolution of the graphic lcd of the recorder ?
21.55.13 #       <Zagor> 112x64
21.55.18 #       <uski> ok
21.55.33 #       <uski> ty
21.55.42 #       <Plugh> cool. That's the next useful piece of info
21.55.52 #       <Plugh> I'm about to piss off diddystar
21.56.50 #       <Plugh> how is it addressed? is top left 0 0?
21.57.01 #       <Zagor> yes
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21.57.21 #       <Plugh> cool. Like old Atari addressing
21.57.36 #       <Plugh> silly Apply used bottom left
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21.59.46 #       <Plugh> although, bottom left is probably more accurate for a planar coordinate system
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22.13.02 #       <thomas_> Does someone of you know a little bit more about the firmware of the av340?
22.14.14 #       <Zagor> such as?
22.14.27 #       <Plugh> Avos project on Sourceforge
22.14.38 #       <Plugh> it went up yesterday
22.15.16 #       <Plugh> there's no data there
22.15.34 #       <Plugh> but that's where the potential devs are gathering
22.16.17 #       <Zagor> well anyone can create empty sourceforge projects. the fact remains nobody as the slightest clue about the MM/AV firmware format
22.16.47 #       <Plugh> Zagor: the point is, that's where to discuss the AV/MM fw. ;)
22.16.50 #       <Plugh> this isn't
22.17.53 #       <Plugh> Dogger is ripping apart his 340 to try to figure out the UART loading
22.17.53 #       <uski> there are a lot of dead projects on sourceforge... (unfortunately)
22.18.22 #       <uski> some ppl wish they could start it, then they abandon and let the project on sf.
22.18.23 #       <Plugh> this one's not dead. It has just experienced the spark of life
22.18.45 #       <uski> yea; let's hope it does not become dead
22.18.49 #       <uski> ;)
22.18.50 #       <uski> gtg
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22.41.09 #       <topjmy> Help anyone!  Probably a dumb question.  Tried to research it to no avail. My archos say Dir Buffer is Full!!  Can't add songs.  They show up on my computer when the archos is connected but not when it's disconnected.  Tried making a separate playlist--that won't show up on unit either.  Tried to figure out how to increase the file limit and can't get that done either.  I'm not a big computer guy, please help!!!!!!!!! Thanks
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22.58.43 #       <Plugh> wow. impatient
22.59.12 #       <Plugh> btw, I fixed the VU meter plugin :)
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22.59.41 #       <midknight2k3> hi zagor
22.59.43 #       <midknight2k3> hi hardeep
22.59.56 #       <Zagor> hi
23.00.03 #       <Plugh> mid
23.00.07 #       <midknight2k3> ding
23.00.11 #       <Plugh> I fixed the VU meter plugin :)
23.00.16 #       <midknight2k3> how?
23.00.25 #       <midknight2k3> a new fix than you gave me last night?
23.00.48 #       <Plugh> totally rewrote the logic
23.00.53 #       <Plugh> it works perfectly now
23.00.56 #       <Plugh> well, sorta
23.00.59 #       <midknight2k3> it does?
23.01.03 #       <midknight2k3> gimme the C file
23.01.04 #       <midknight2k3> NOW
23.01.05 #       <midknight2k3> lol
23.01.06 #       <Plugh> I need a more sane max_peak
23.01.41 #       <Plugh> cdcc send midknight2k3 ~/archos/rockbox/apps/plugins/vu_meter.c
23.01.53 #       <midknight2k3> yes
23.01.58 #       <Plugh> there
23.02.12 #       <Plugh> sorry, not fully accustomed to this client
23.02.22 #       <midknight2k3> that coupled with my numerous UI improvemnts will render the vu meter priceless
23.02.28 #       <midknight2k3> which client?
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23.02.35 #       <Plugh> irssi
23.02.38 #       <Plugh> for Linux
23.02.42 #       <Plugh> hi Spas
23.03.21 #       <midknight2k3> building
23.04.02 #       <Plugh> the meter still needs some stuff. Gotta find where 0dB is and put a heavy mark there, then tick the rest off in dB's
23.04.13 #       <Plugh> it's gonna take some time and effort though
23.04.13 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
23.04.18 #       <midknight2k3> that comes later
23.05.14 #       <Plugh> part of the problem is that mas_codec (0xC) and (0xD) return a linear value. Not logarithmic
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23.05.36 #       <midknight2k3> convert it to logarithmic
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23.05.57 #       <Plugh> I'll get around to it. Linear math is much easier for me than logarithmic
23.06.18 #       <Plugh> the MAS chip returns linear values, and there's nothing I can do about that
23.06.28 #       <midknight2k3> let me test your mod now
23.06.38 #       <midknight2k3> or should i say rewrite
23.07.47 #       <Plugh> I was playing Chris Rock - No Sex in the Champagne Room without headphones to test the patch and I could actually "see" what he was saying. It's a good piece of code
23.08.04 #       <midknight2k3> tis indeed.. great work
23.08.34 #       <midknight2k3> just for perfection, thats another step. we got the beginning down.
23.08.42 #       <Plugh> Thanks to you and diddy for writing the framework. I wouldn't have done it without you guys
23.08.53 #       <midknight2k3> let me add my ui improv
23.09.25 #       <midknight2k3> i didnt do much of the framework yet.. but after this ui patch we might have a diff'rent amount
23.09.30 #       <Plugh> go for it. I'm just a logic guy. Not a UI beautifier
23.09.45 #       <midknight2k3> i'm a ui beuatifier, not a logic guy
23.09.46 #       <Spasmonaut> My Archos Jukebox 20 Player, keeps saying "Jukebox Wait... #"
23.09.55 #       <Spasmonaut> and I can't get it to work
23.10.01 #       <Spasmonaut> does anyone have an idea of what to do?
23.10.02 #       <midknight2k3> zagor might be able to help, spas
23.10.07 #       <midknight2k3> zagor?
23.10.19 #       <Spasmonaut> ok
23.10.21 #       <Spasmonaut> :)
23.11.27 #       <midknight2k3> now to test the final plugh+midk work
23.12.01 #       <Plugh> I reduced the logic to about 3 or 4 lines there. Got rid of the mess.
23.12.20 #       <midknight2k3> i added "a bit" of lines for my ui fixers
23.12.24 #       <midknight2k3> lol
23.12.36 #       <midknight2k3> it's about as minimal as possible
23.12.49 #       <midknight2k3> i could put two of the lines into one, a drawrect instead of drawline, but...
23.12.59 #       <midknight2k3> instead of 2 drawlines*
23.14.16 #       <Zagor> Spasmonaut: that's a hardware error, i'm afraid
23.17.11 #       <midknight2k3> plugh: my ui improv needs a little more work
23.17.15 #       <midknight2k3> just to test
23.17.46 #       <Plugh> take yer time. I'm basically done until I get around to log scale
23.18.09 #       <midknight2k3> its ok Plugh
23.18.29 #       <midknight2k3> gotta just make sure the font works and slide over the needle coveres
23.18.32 #       <Plugh> I just wanted to give you something to work with. Once I get log scale done, I'm going to set it up to monitor recording levels
23.18.33 #       <midknight2k3> covers*
23.18.41 #       <midknight2k3> well great work thanks
23.18.46 #       <midknight2k3> that makes things better
23.19.07 #       <Plugh> well, better than decreasing volume to 0 then locking up the plugin
23.20.26 #       <midknight2k3> lol
23.20.30 #       <midknight2k3> mine went over slightly
23.20.33 #       <midknight2k3> then it got stuck
23.20.46 #       <midknight2k3> once it touched it tried to free itself but it was stuck.
23.21.20 #       <Plugh> hehe
23.21.30 #       <Plugh> you can twiddle with the limits
23.21.31 #       <Spasmonaut> Zagor
23.21.35 #       <Plugh> I put them in variables
23.21.37 #       <Spasmonaut> Sorry, I was away
23.21.41 #       <midknight2k3> great
23.21.42 #       <midknight2k3> ty
23.21.53 #       <Plugh> the needles move within the limits set there
23.22.54 #       <midknight2k3> this is gonna be better than i'd hoped
23.23.14 #       <midknight2k3> i hope
23.26.32 #       <Plugh> if I can get what I want out of this rock, I'm sure it will end up in the source tree
23.26.45 #       <midknight2k3> source tree
23.26.46 #       <midknight2k3> ?
23.26.49 #       <Plugh> because it's more than just flashy. It's useful
23.26.52 #       <Plugh> in CVS
23.26.57 #       <midknight2k3> duh
23.27.03 #       <midknight2k3> i sort of expected it to get there too
23.27.07 #       <midknight2k3> it is
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23.28.17 #       <Plugh> a visualization plugin is of limited usefulness. An audio power meter is useful for audio engineers
23.28.48 #       <midknight2k3> it serves both purposes
23.28.59 #       <midknight2k3> it's neat to look at, and it also works for real life stuffs
23.29.02 #       <Plugh> imagine using rockbox to inject white and pink noise, as well as measure speaker output
23.29.23 #       * Plugh is audio geek
23.29.32 #       <midknight2k3> i bet
23.29.40 #       <Plugh> or didn't you notice from the pix
23.30.19 #       <midknight2k3> the computer pix?
23.30.24 #       <midknight2k3> i saw the turntable
23.31.16 #       <Plugh> yeah. I got more than just turntables going through the mixing board ;)
23.31.30 #       <midknight2k3> lol
23.32.25 #       <Plugh> that board has 10 line inputs and 2 mic inputs
23.32.40 #       <midknight2k3> cool
23.32.44 #       <midknight2k3> big mixer
23.33.01 #       <Plugh> yeah. 4 channels can be mixed at a time
23.33.19 #       <Plugh> any more than that and you're probably going to get cacaphony ;)
23.33.37 #       <Plugh> I usually don't work in more than 3 channels
23.33.47 #       <midknight2k3> bing here, bang there, pow here, boom there, pow there
23.33.53 #       <midknight2k3> oops
23.33.53 #       <Plugh> 2 turntables and one computer
23.33.58 #       <midknight2k3> pow x 2
23.34.07 #       <Plugh> but here and there
23.34.25 #       <midknight2k3> BSOD
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23.37.03 #       <midknight2k3> galik, woo
23.39.06 #       <midknight2k3> plugh?
23.39.12 #       <Plugh> ya
23.39.19 #       <midknight2k3> what time is it there?
23.39.25 #       <Plugh> Wed Oct  1 14:39:37 PDT 2003
23.39.36 #       <midknight2k3> oh pdt
23.39.38 #       <midknight2k3> thats my time
23.39.54 #       <midknight2k3> so you go to work at like 6 and go home at like 8
23.40.03 #       <midknight2k3> and you work on the 3d rat?
23.40.16 #       <Plugh> huh?
23.40.26 #       <midknight2k3> you leave work late
23.40.28 #       <midknight2k3> like 8pm
23.40.33 #       <midknight2k3> when do you go to work?\
23.40.40 #       <Plugh> I usually work 9-5:30 or 10:30-6:30
23.40.48 #       <Plugh> but occasionally I work late
23.41.17 #       <midknight2k3> and the 3d rat you keep working on right?
23.41.24 #       <midknight2k3> does it have molecular persiuosis?\
23.41.51 #       <Plugh> No definitions found for "persiuosis"
23.42.02 #       <midknight2k3> whatever
23.42.09 #       <midknight2k3> molecular percitus
23.42.29 #       <Plugh> I don't do much with molecules
23.42.43 #       <midknight2k3> what about the RAT>
23.42.48 #       <Plugh> more like a chemical analysis
23.42.50 #       <midknight2k3> can you send me the rat geodome?
23.43.20 #       <Plugh> I could send it to you. Not sure what you could do with it though
23.43.51 #       <midknight2k3> is it like a 3d template?
23.43.58 #       <midknight2k3> whatever a geodome is
23.44.09 #       <midknight2k3> i thought.. oh wait that's a geoDESIC dome
23.44.14 #       <midknight2k3> never mind
23.44.30 #       * Plugh tries to be patient
23.44.46 #       * midknight2k3 gives up
23.44.54 #       <Plugh> it's a genome
23.44.58 #       <Plugh> not a geodome
23.45.03 #       <midknight2k3> genome?
23.45.20 #       <Plugh> our definition of a genome is a little different than the biological definition
23.45.50 #       <Plugh> in our case, it's all the data associated with a particular organism
23.47.29 #       <Plugh> so, it's sequence data, expression data, pathway images, possibly chip views...
23.47.36 #       <midknight2k3> oh boy
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23.47.42 #       <midknight2k3> can i just see the rat?
23.48.01 #       <midknight2k3> &ROCKbox! has extended to, &AJBREC!
23.49.52 #       <Plugh> this is how I see a rat. http://www.silicongenetics.com/cgi/SiG.cgi/Products/GeneSpring/gs6_anova.html
23.51.01 #       <midknight2k3> uh
23.51.10 #       <midknight2k3> <snip>
23.51.13 #       <midknight2k3> More user-friendly than ever before
23.51.16 #       <midknight2k3> </snip>
23.51.21 #       <Zagor> that p-value cutoff doesn't look right
23.51.24 #       <Zagor> ;-P
23.51.24 #       <midknight2k3> sure looks user friendly to me
23.51.33 #       <midknight2k3> lol zagor
23.51.57 #       <Plugh> I can put you in touch with our statistician, Zagor
23.52.06 #       <Zagor> hehe, no thanks :)
23.52.22 #       <midknight2k3> statistic-ian? statis-tici-an?
23.52.44 #       <midknight2k3> stah-tihs-tih-SEE-en
23.52.46 #       <midknight2k3> thats it
23.52.56 #       <midknight2k3> wait
23.53.02 #       <Zagor> just a silly question: how is that table sorted? none of the columns appear to be in any kind of order...
23.53.03 #       <midknight2k3> the C goes after the h
23.54.05 #       <midknight2k3> did zagor see the core?
23.54.10 #       <Plugh> the p-value cutoff in that screen is a user-defined value. ;)
23.54.11 #       <Zagor> ope
23.54.18 #       <midknight2k3> user defined?>
23.54.20 #       <midknight2k3> haha
23.54.24 #       <midknight2k3> proves zagor wrong
23.54.34 #       <midknight2k3> do hackers watch movies?
23.54.36 #       <Zagor> the user was obviously a moron ;)
23.54.38 #       <midknight2k3> do they eat food?
23.54.41 #       <midknight2k3> lol
23.54.42 #       <Plugh> you can set it to whatever you like to obtain the results you're interested in
23.54.50 #       <midknight2k3> what a moron indeed
23.55.19 #       <midknight2k3> im watching the core again tonight
23.55.24 #       <midknight2k3> i think
23.55.30 #       <Plugh> as far as sorting, it looks to me like it could be sorted by position on the chromosome
23.55.40 #       <midknight2k3> cromosome?
23.55.41 #       <Zagor> juggling several patches while writing improvements yourself gets a bit messy after a while...
23.55.51 #       <Plugh> no, chromosome
23.56.02 #       <midknight2k3> cromeo-zome
23.56.13 #       <midknight2k3> hahah
23.56.17 #       <midknight2k3> cromophobe
23.56.32 #       <midknight2k3> i dont see any cromosome
23.56.41 #       <midknight2k3> there is no cromosome, how can it be sorted by that
23.56.41 #       <Zagor> i like looking at things that makes absolutely no sense to me.
23.56.50 #       <midknight2k3> plugh feels special
23.56.54 #       <midknight2k3> he knows what it means
23.57.04 #       <Zagor> i imagine that's how it feels for some people trying to set the time on their vcr
23.57.10 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha
23.57.23 #       <midknight2k3> can zagor set his vcr time?
23.57.33 #       <midknight2k3> he can probably write a new firmware for the vcr
23.57.34 #       <midknight2k3> lol
23.57.50 #       <Zagor> my vcr sets its' own time, via "rdate -s"
23.58.07 #       <midknight2k3> did you make a vcr firmware?
23.58.20 #       <Zagor> no, just kidding
23.58.23 #       <midknight2k3> lol
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23.58.37 #       <midknight2k3> sort of expected answer
23.58.45 #       <midknight2k3> oh no!
23.58.51 #       <midknight2k3> the rockbox front page wont open!
23.58.52 #       <midknight2k3> NOOO!
23.58.55 #       <midknight2k3> its shut down!
23.58.58 #       <midknight2k3> out of business!