--- Log for 08.10.103  Server: orwell.freenode.net  Channel: #rockbox
--- Nick: logbot  Version: Dancer V4.16p1  Started: 1 month and 5 days ago

00.00.04 #       <Dogger> cant find any info on the 'TORSAN LC272C18' though - must be the LCD driver though
00.00.22 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Is that TI  DSP the only CPU-ish chip?
00.01.05 #       <Dogger> yep... unless there is one under that bronze thing top left.... but couldn't see anything under it
00.01.17 #       <Plugh> I have a Nomad disassembled in front of me
00.01.24 #       <Plugh> it has a TI DSP :)
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00.02.06 #       <[IDC]Dragon> which bronze thing?
00.02.21 #       <Dogger> http://www.axod.net/pics/ftree/archos//m2-011.jpg top left there...
00.02.32 #       <Dogger> above the LCD strip
00.02.45 #       <Dogger> its soldered over the board
00.02.47 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Looks like a shield foil
00.02.51 #       <Dogger> yep
00.03.11 #       <[IDC]Dragon> you can't peek under it?
00.03.34 #       <Dogger> dont think there was anything under there... might open it up again
00.03.47 #       <Dogger> I thought you said the dsp chip may be the cpu as well?
00.04.15 #       <[IDC]Dragon> It may, yes. No fun to program it for general purpose, but possible.
00.04.26 #       <Dogger> o ok,
00.04.52 #       <[IDC]Dragon> The small thing left to it is a flash?
00.05.37 #       <Dogger> think so yes
00.05.45 #       <Dogger> will take it to bits again and check some bits
00.06.07 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Have you found something like JTAG?
00.06.30 #       <Dogger> whats jtag?
00.06.54 #       <[IDC]Dragon> a serial debug and test interface.
00.07.05 #       <Dogger> hmm ok,
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00.09.49 #       <Dogger> tms320dsc25
00.10.01 #       <Dogger> ca 31adl5j
00.13.19 #       <[IDC]Dragon> that DSP has a DivX codec!
00.13.54 #       <[IDC]Dragon> (targeted for settop boxes and portable video player.)
00.14.37 #       <Dogger> kewl :)
00.14.48 #       <Dogger> so thats how they do the divx stuff on the AV then
00.15.08 #       <[IDC]Dragon> that DSC stands for digital still camera, the original target application.
00.15.30 #       <[IDC]Dragon> Maybe later they made DivX code for it.
00.15.48 #       <Dogger> just had another look inside
00.15.54 #       <Dogger> still no sign of any other cpu
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00.17.08 #       <Dogger> so does that chip have cpu stuff built in as well?
00.17.32 #       <Dogger> looks like a lot of support/info for it
00.19.36 #       <Dogger> yep it's ARM powered
00.19.48 #       <Dogger> http://www.arm.com/app.nsf/html/industrial?OpenDocument&style=ARM_Powered_Products
00.21.43 #       <[IDC]Dragon> ARM7 + DSP
00.21.49 #       <Dogger> nice,
00.23.01 #       <Dogger> cant find it on ti.com though
00.23.46 #       <[IDC]Dragon> somebody from Archos told me you need an NDA to get info
00.24.22 #       <Dogger> info from TI?
00.25.33 #       <[IDC]Dragon> looks like there was something, google gives dead links.
00.26.09 #       <Dogger> maybe archos got them cheap since they werent needed for digital cameras anymore lol
00.26.15 #       <[IDC]Dragon> read this:
00.26.16 #       <[IDC]Dragon> http://www.tenet.res.in/ncc2003/products.php?p=6
00.26.39 #       <Dogger> kewl :)
00.26.49 #       <Dogger> will put lots of these links on my project page
00.26.59 #       <Dogger> sourceforge.net - avos
00.27.41 #       <Dogger> ah so thats how they do the add on CF/SD card readers maybe
00.28.31 #       <Dogger> so if I can program it, the chip should take care of all decoding/encodin etc from mp4.mp4/jpg/etc
00.31.02 #       <Dogger> there is linux support for that chip
00.31.02 #       <[IDC]Dragon> here's a too small block diagram, rest in korean:
00.31.04 #       <[IDC]Dragon> http://www.tikorea.co.kr/news/tinews011030.asp
00.31.23 #       <Dogger> http://www.cadenux.com/bsp/CadenuxArmUsersGuide.html#para11
00.31.45 #       <Dogger> eww @ korean - nice diagram though
00.34.17 #       <[IDC]Dragon> a small article at Tom's hardware:
00.34.18 #       <[IDC]Dragon> http://www.tomshardware.com/technews/20011024.html
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00.36.00 #       <midknight2k3> hello
00.36.14 #       <midknight2k3> just about to swap my riot riot's and archos fm rec's hard drives
00.36.26 #       <midknight2k3> zagor: thought I'd want to confirm something
00.36.36 #       <midknight2k3> the riot's disk is some odd filesystem
00.36.51 #       <midknight2k3> will rockbox give me a hard time just using it as a USB mass storage?
00.36.55 #       <midknight2k3> i flashed it
00.36.57 #       <Plugh> hey mid
00.36.59 #       <midknight2k3> so it shouldnt be a problem
00.36.59 #       <Plugh> I found an old Nomad lying around
00.37.02 #       <midknight2k3> hi plugh
00.37.03 #       <Plugh> it had a 6gig in it
00.37.04 #       <midknight2k3> really?
00.37.06 #       <midknight2k3> cool
00.37.16 #       <Plugh> so I ganked it and put it in my laptop
00.37.18 #       <midknight2k3> yeft wanted to sell ya his archos studio 6k hard drive
00.37.23 #       <midknight2k3> which nomad?
00.37.34 #       <midknight2k3> nomad 1?
00.37.36 #       <Plugh> Nomad Jukebox
00.37.40 #       <midknight2k3> cool
00.37.46 #       <midknight2k3> as in you dont use it?
00.38.07 #       <Plugh> as in it had a broken LCD and faulty battery charging, no power adapter...
00.38.09 #       * Dogger is glad his archos has 40gig - real storage ;)
00.38.17 #       <midknight2k3> lol
00.38.27 #       <midknight2k3> cool
00.38.31 #       <midknight2k3> i wannit
00.38.46 #       <midknight2k3> lol
00.38.58 #       <Plugh> the drive in it was half the size and weight as the laptop 4gig
00.38.59 #       <Dogger> it's got more than both my laptops together
00.39.03 #       <Plugh> for 50% more storage
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00.39.23 #       <midknight2k3> cool
00.39.40 #       <midknight2k3> i hate taking the cover off the fmrec
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00.39.49 #       <midknight2k3> the tabs on the side get totally.. bent
00.39.53 Part    target
00.39.58 #       <midknight2k3> no good way to do it
00.40.28 #       <midknight2k3> oh no
00.40.35 #       <midknight2k3> i forgot the f buttons are broken
00.41.01 #       <Plugh> the f keys are f'd?
00.41.06 #       <midknight2k3> f2 and f3
00.42.02 #       <midknight2k3> i'll document it
00.42.08 #       <midknight2k3> then you can see my work
00.42.39 #       <Plugh> a friend on another channel is taking a job at a porn video store, graveyard shift
00.42.53 #       <midknight2k3> lol
00.43.07 #       <Plugh> should be interesting to see what movies he's going to start ripping and encoding
00.43.12 #       <midknight2k3> oh no
00.43.15 #       <midknight2k3> lol
00.43.20 #       <Dogger> lol
00.43.34 #       <Plugh> I've put in a request :)
00.43.47 #       <midknight2k3> for a movie?
00.43.58 #       <Plugh> yeah
00.44.13 #       <Plugh> http://tinyurl.com/q3bp <-- don't view unless you are >18
00.44.24 #       <midknight2k3> that means not me
00.45.02 #       <Plugh> Dogger: $5 says he views it anyway
00.45.08 #       <midknight2k3> lol
00.45.17 #       <midknight2k3> it remains unclicked
00.45.43 #       <Dogger> lol nice
00.45.55 #       <midknight2k3> i hate being uninformed
00.46.02 Quit    [IDC]Dragon ()
00.46.19 #       <midknight2k3> don't post porn links in #rockbox please
00.46.54 #       <midknight2k3> here we are
00.46.58 #       <midknight2k3> nice hard drivey
00.48.37 #       <midknight2k3> now to get riot one
00.49.12 #       <midknight2k3> zagor?
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00.51.33 #       <diddystar5> hey mid
00.51.42 #       <midknight2k3> diddy! hey
00.51.43 #       <diddystar5> have yuo tried my new patch?
00.51.47 #       <midknight2k3> not yet
00.51.51 #       <midknight2k3> been a bit busy
00.51.58 #       <midknight2k3> just now transplanting hard drives
00.52.12 #       <midknight2k3> archos with rioriot's
00.52.30 #       <diddystar5> why?
00.52.37 #       <midknight2k3> to copy off my songs
00.52.42 #       <midknight2k3> riotreader promises to
00.52.45 #       <midknight2k3> riotus.com
00.52.54 #       <diddystar5> o
00.53.03 #       <midknight2k3> finally a solution to all this
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00.57.03 #       <Plugh> is mid gonna be the next 12 year old sued by RIAA for his Kazaa share?
00.57.18 #       <midknight2k3> i should hope not
00.57.24 #       <midknight2k3> i better get a warning first
00.57.43 #       * diddystar5 hasn't shared songs ina long time
00.57.55 #       <diddystar5> i remember using napster...
00.57.58 #       <Plugh> sharing 5000 songs on a modem through AOL :)
00.58.03 #       <midknight2k3> lol
00.58.08 #       <diddystar5> i used it 3 days before it got shut down...
00.58.09 #       <Plugh> diddystar5: so do I
00.58.11 #       <midknight2k3> not i
00.58.17 #       <Plugh> I was one of the administrators
00.58.19 #       <diddystar5> then i used aimster until you had to pay for it....
00.58.34 #       <midknight2k3> plugh: really?
00.58.43 #       <Plugh> I helped Shawn fix a bug in his earliest client code
00.58.44 #       <diddystar5> then i used morpheus for along time until 2.0 was realeased
00.58.51 #       <Plugh> so he made me an admin
00.58.58 #       <midknight2k3> morpheus sucks
00.59.11 #       <Plugh> I've been using DC++
00.59.13 #       <diddystar5> then i used limewire i think     and err  what was it called....
00.59.35 #       <diddystar5> midknight2k3: morpheus was great until 2.0
00.59.45 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
00.59.48 #       <Plugh> I'm about to get into a WASTE net
00.59.48 #       <midknight2k3> 2.0 just blew it
00.59.54 #       <midknight2k3> huge icons, crappy ui, etc
00.59.58 #       <diddystar5> yep...
01.00.02 #       <midknight2k3> kazaa continued it
01.00.05 #       <midknight2k3> at least
01.00.10 #       <midknight2k3> it was as close a replica as possible
01.00.22 #       <diddystar5> i quit after i used limewire
01.00.56 #       <diddystar5> now i just have friends i steal from    and i go to the libary and get cd's to rip
01.01.49 #       <midknight2k3> good idea
01.01.50 #       <midknight2k3> lol
01.02.44 #       <midknight2k3> IT WORSK
01.02.50 #       <midknight2k3> the riots hard drive is in the archos
01.02.53 #       <midknight2k3> i didnt boot it yet
01.02.55 #       <midknight2k3> but it fits
01.03.10 #       <Plugh> heh. there's room to spare in my laptop
01.03.16 #       <Dogger> ripping dvds is more fun :)
01.03.24 #       <diddystar5> after you find out that the ones you rip at 192kb's yourself sound much better     you may never go back
01.03.26 #       <Dogger> but eats harddrive space :(
01.03.41 #       <diddystar5> i wish i hap a dvd burner....
01.03.44 #       <midknight2k3> diddy: yes
01.03.54 #       <midknight2k3> i just DOWNLOAD them at 192k.. ;)
01.03.54 #       <Dogger> I just store it on my av340
01.03.57 #       <Plugh> I hope this laptop has enough juice to play movies
01.04.08 #       <Dogger> can store about 80 dVDs on it at reasonable quality
01.04.09 #       <diddystar5> i thought it was so cool when i got a cd writer       i could only write at 8x speed :)
01.04.19 #       <Plugh> hell, I hope I can get the sound working
01.04.28 #       <midknight2k3> okayy
01.04.34 #       <midknight2k3> time to insert battery
01.04.37 #       <midknight2k3> here goes
01.04.54 #       <midknight2k3> lol
01.04.59 #       <midknight2k3> take too long to spinuo
01.05.06 #       <midknight2k3> it says PANIC! Disk : Null
01.05.22 #       <Dogger> hey does anyone here admin the rockbox website/project page?
01.05.34 #       <diddystar5> Dogger: zagor
01.05.56 #       <midknight2k3> zagor
01.05.58 #       <midknight2k3> i need help
01.06.10 #       <Dogger> ok, was gonna beg for a reciprical link
01.06.29 #       <midknight2k3> helphelp
01.06.43 #       <midknight2k3> can anyone make me a ver that will allow the hard drive to spinup longer?
01.06.58 #       <diddystar5> spinup longer?
01.07.00 #       <midknight2k3> i just neeed 1 second more before it certifies that there is no disk
01.07.06 #       <diddystar5> oo
01.07.13 #       <midknight2k3> on bootup i get "disk: null
01.07.23 #       <midknight2k3> just needs another second to get going
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01.07.30 #       <diddystar5> ok     ill try
01.07.43 #       <diddystar5> gotta erase my personal source to do it...
01.07.52 #       <midknight2k3> zagor: is it possible"?
01.09.15 #       <diddystar5> humm   now where is that defaualt setting for spinup time?
01.09.30 #       <diddystar5> i know it's not in settings.c
01.09.40 #       <midknight2k3> firmware\ata.c
01.09.41 #       <midknight2k3> prolly
01.10.24 #       <midknight2k3> wait
01.10.30 #       <midknight2k3> i think i know the problem
01.10.38 #       <midknight2k3> its that its a UFX2 filesystem or something
01.10.44 #       <midknight2k3> prolly the problem
01.11.00 #       <diddystar5> ...
01.11.11 #       <diddystar5> you didn't format fat32?
01.11.14 #       <midknight2k3> nevermind diddy
01.11.23 #       <midknight2k3> nooo
01.11.44 #       <diddystar5> can you boot with f1+on?
01.11.57 #       <midknight2k3> trying
01.12.12 #       <diddystar5> if you can't then it's the FS
01.12.14 #       <midknight2k3> YESS
01.12.26 #       <midknight2k3> for once archos firmware rocks
01.12.36 #       <midknight2k3> it said, no fat16/32. Please format drive
01.12.38 #       <midknight2k3> then i put in usb
01.12.43 #       <midknight2k3> usb screen? yep
01.12.46 #       <midknight2k3> mm hmm
01.12.48 #       <midknight2k3> oh yes
01.12.48 #       <diddystar5> yep     that the prob
01.12.49 #       <midknight2k3> rock box
01.12.50 Join    [GoE]Barna [0] (zaxx@zux173-196.adsl.green.ch)
01.12.52 #       <midknight2k3> that wont work
01.12.53 #       <midknight2k3> archos
01.12.54 #       <midknight2k3> that will
01.12.55 DBUG    Enqueued KICK midknight2k3
01.12.55 #       <midknight2k3> mm hmm
01.12.56 #       <midknight2k3> oh yes
01.12.58 #       <midknight2k3> you rock
01.13.06 #       <midknight2k3> ...
01.13.37 #       <midknight2k3> zagor: you need to do that
01.13.43 #       <midknight2k3> you should at least
01.13.44 #       <diddystar5> Plugh: have you found out the stuff for a logarithmic scale on the vu meter yet?
01.14.04 Nick    [GoE]BENtheTEN is now known as BENtheTEN (~quasi@80.238.199.45)
01.14.17 #       <Plugh> nope
01.14.21 #       <Plugh> haven't been looking
01.14.49 #       <diddystar5> Plugh: also in in the peakmeter code there is some stuff with logarithmic scale, but i don't understand it very well
01.15.31 #       <Plugh> thanks for the pointer. when I have time, I'll look at it
01.15.35 Part    [GoE]Barna
01.15.36 #       <midknight2k3> YES
01.15.40 #       <midknight2k3> IT READS!
01.15.46 #       <diddystar5> We're Sorry.
01.15.46 #       <diddystar5> The SourceForge.net Website is currently down for maintenance.
01.15.46 #       <diddystar5> We will be back shortly
01.15.47 #       <midknight2k3> OH YES THANK YOU GOD
01.15.52 #       <diddystar5> as always...
01.15.54 #       <midknight2k3> and thank you archos firmware
01.15.57 #       <midknight2k3> i am loyal
01.16.05 #       <midknight2k3> (but loyaler to rockbox)
01.16.08 #       <midknight2k3> but still loyal
01.16.08 #       <midknight2k3> ;)
01.16.18 #       <Plugh> god is overrated
01.16.24 #       <diddystar5> hehe
01.16.53 #       <diddystar5> does anyone here own a player???     i need someone to test my game!!!!
01.17.07 #       <midknight2k3> your RIPPED OFF game
01.17.18 #       <midknight2k3> it works
01.17.20 #       <midknight2k3> thank god
01.17.26 #       <midknight2k3> copying whole rio riot contents
01.17.30 #       <diddystar5> not RIPPED OFF
01.17.35 #       <midknight2k3> copied
01.18.08 #       <midknight2k3> oops
01.18.08 #       <diddystar5> it's the old "gamebox" game        i just updated it, made it a plug, and made it better
01.18.14 Nick    BENtheTEN is now known as [OFF]BtT (~quasi@80.238.199.45)
01.18.52 Nick    [OFF]BtT is now known as [GoE]BENtheTEN (~quasi@80.238.199.45)
01.20.30 #       <diddystar5> there are some problems with the map of the game        since the lcd code was changed         thats why i need someone to test
01.20.44 #       <midknight2k3> its not improved if its busted
01.21.19 #       <diddystar5> well           i didn't bust it       it is something that needs to be updated that i don't know how to do
01.21.21 #       <Plugh> hehe. polls show that we're gonna have another actor for governor
01.21.46 #       <diddystar5> ....      im sick of that californis recall crap
01.23.14 #       <diddystar5> humm        i gonna make a rockbox calculator!!!
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01.23.31 #       <track> hello
01.23.35 #       <track> everyone
01.23.35 #       <diddystar5> hey track
01.23.38 #       <midknight2k3> haha diddy
01.23.39 #       <midknight2k3> hi track
01.23.42 #       <midknight2k3> make one diddy
01.23.45 #       <track> hello
01.23.47 #       <midknight2k3> someone made a stopwatch
01.23.47 #       <track> everyone
01.23.57 #       <midknight2k3> its not at patches tho
01.24.04 #       <Plugh> diddy: the recall is actually something important to me
01.24.13 #       <midknight2k3> google the term "Rockbox" and about three links down there's one about rockbox patches
01.24.21 #       <Plugh> but I laugh when my mom in Alabama emails me about it
01.24.25 #       <diddystar5> midknight2k3: your good with the graphics       i won't you to do some improvments when i get it sorta working
01.24.31 #       <ze> heh
01.24.33 #       <Plugh> cuz it really doesn't concern her at all
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01.24.34 #       <midknight2k3> pluggy wuggy has a monny wommy
01.24.50 #       <ze> my parents went to vote a little while ago
01.25.02 #       <ze> they said there was a ton of people in line behind them
01.25.26 #       <Dogger> ze: where you from?
01.25.39 #       <ze> california, duh
01.25.46 #       <Dogger> er yeah I figured that
01.25.48 #       <Plugh> yes mid, I have a mom. I'm sure it's better than having 2 dads and a hole in the wall...
01.25.52 #       <Dogger> it's quite a big place though
01.25.55 #       <ze> oh heh
01.25.57 #       <ze> san bernardino county
01.26.04 #       <Dogger> I live in santa clara some of the time
01.26.12 #       <Dogger> not heard of it... I'm from UK
01.26.22 #       <ze> i'm about 50 miles east of LA
01.26.23 #       <Plugh> I live in San Jose
01.26.34 #       <Dogger> o ok down south then
01.26.37 #       <ze> yeah
01.26.52 #       <Dogger> Plugh: really? lived there in a hotel for a couple of weeks
01.26.55 #       <Plugh> yeah. even south by San Jose standards. Blossom Hill area
01.26.58 #       <Dogger> not much to do there
01.27.10 #       <Dogger> live in Palo Alto now
01.27.18 #       <Plugh> I work in RWC
01.27.29 #       <Dogger> dunno where that is
01.27.34 #       <Plugh> Redwood City
01.27.37 #       <Dogger> I only started working in CA last month
01.27.42 #       <Dogger> o ok, heard of it
01.27.48 #       <Plugh> about 2 or 3 cities north of you
01.27.59 #       <Plugh> there's Menlo Park, Atherton, then RWC
01.28.05 #       <Plugh> going up El Camino
01.28.07 #       <Dogger> sure ok,
01.28.34 #       <Dogger> I fly out again on monday
01.28.36 #       <Plugh> in other words, about 10 minutes drive from my office to your house
01.28.47 #       <Dogger> so I got a 10 1/2 hour flight to look forward to
01.28.49 #       <Plugh> back to England?
01.28.55 #       <Dogger> nah I'm in UK now
01.29.06 #       <Dogger> I come back out to SFO on monday
01.29.10 #       <Plugh> ohhh
01.29.11 #       <Dogger> stay in palo alto for 3 weeks
01.29.12 #       <Plugh> okay
01.29.28 #       <Plugh> join me for a beer after work some day?
01.29.39 #       <Dogger> sure, will have to
01.29.51 #       <midknight2k3> lol plugh
01.29.54 #       <Dogger> went out to some 'irish' pubs in sunnyvale last time
01.29.56 #       <midknight2k3> make some new friends yay
01.30.06 #       <Dogger> irish pubs that serve mexican food lol
01.30.09 #       <Plugh> haha
01.30.11 #       <Dogger> lol
01.30.15 #       <diddystar5> weird...
01.30.24 #       <Plugh> best Irish pub I know of is in San Francisco
01.30.33 #       <Plugh> DELICIOUS Irish food :)
01.30.47 #       <Dogger> cool... haven't really stopped much in san fran yet
01.31.00 #       <Dogger> went over the golden gate bridge, oh yeah that was worth $5 ;)
01.31.20 #       <diddystar5> i didn't have to pay to go accros
01.31.33 #       <Dogger> both ways?
01.31.41 #       <Dogger> I think they only charged us comming back over
01.31.46 #       <diddystar5> went both ways    no $
01.31.53 #       <Plugh> they only charge coming into the City
01.31.57 #       <Plugh> not leaving
01.31.58 #       <midknight2k3> DOGGER
01.32.01 #       <midknight2k3> did you see the core?
01.32.07 #       <Dogger> core?
01.32.10 #       <Dogger> hardcore?
01.32.16 #       <diddystar5> :)
01.32.17 #       <midknight2k3> it's the golden gate bridge, but beter
01.32.18 #       <Dogger> Plugh: ah ok that explains it
01.32.26 #       <Dogger> no didnt see that
01.32.40 #       <midknight2k3> its good
01.32.43 #       <midknight2k3> try it one day
01.32.47 #       <Dogger> only stopped in san fran breifly... planning to do more there next week
01.32.52 #       <Dogger> where abouts?
01.32.56 #       <midknight2k3> and then the microwaves slice it in half
01.33.06 #       <midknight2k3> and the guy gets burnt
01.33.10 #       <midknight2k3> and his tires melt
01.33.38 #       <diddystar5> midknight2k3: huh???
01.33.55 Ctcp    Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood
01.33.55 #       * Dogger keeps quiet in the hope he will understand soon
01.34.10 #       <midknight2k3> dogger: directed at me?
01.34.17 #       <Plugh> if it involves midknight, don't bother
01.34.19 #       <ze> heh the core's a recent disaster movie
01.34.21 #       <Dogger> I mean that I will understand soon
01.34.22 #       <Plugh> it's not worth the effort
01.34.37 #       <diddystar5> now i get it....
01.34.40 #       <midknight2k3> ze: did YOU see it?
01.34.42 #       <ze> nope
01.34.45 #       <Dogger> ah! ok.... thought you meant it was a bridge or landmark or something lol
01.34.50 #       <midknight2k3> it is
01.34.53 #       <midknight2k3> its the brige
01.34.59 #       <midknight2k3> cut in half and melting
01.35.02 #       <Dogger> I saw the film SWAT over there.... worst film I have ever seen in my entire life
01.35.04 #       <track> tea maker
01.35.04 #       <track> :)
01.35.14 #       <ze> mmm tea
01.35.36 #       <ze> i make tea with a spoon.
01.35.49 #       <track> so do I
01.36.00 #       <ze> but i found out the other day
01.36.12 #       <ze> that the moonlight gyokuro that i like so much out of this green tea sampler i got
01.36.16 #       <ze> is $30 for 5oz
01.36.20 #       <track> cool!
01.36.22 #       <midknight2k3> ze sucks
01.36.23 #       <midknight2k3> all you suck
01.36.26 #       <midknight2k3> you need to see it
01.36.28 #       <ze> cool? thats expensive
01.36.28 #       <ze> heh
01.36.29 #       <track> did u make it with the Archos?
01.36.49 #       <ze> no, i made it with a spoon
01.36.54 #       <ze> and a steel mesh ball
01.37.03 #       <midknight2k3> did you hear me
01.37.05 #       <midknight2k3> see it
01.37.08 #       <ze> and a cup, and a steel kettle
01.37.09 #       <ze> heh
01.37.11 #       <midknight2k3> and then the geode
01.37.13 #       <midknight2k3> and then the core
01.37.17 #       <midknight2k3> and then the bombs
01.37.20 #       <midknight2k3> and then the breach
01.37.27 #       <midknight2k3> and then the extended scenes
01.37.43 #       <ze> movies suck
01.37.53 #       <midknight2k3> (braz" "here's the basis of the boring mechanism" zimsky: "boring is right")
01.37.55 #       <ze> dreams are better :p
01.38.00 #       <midknight2k3> try it ze
01.38.04 #       <ze> and then there's that whole 'life' thing, now thats really a trip
01.38.11 #       <track> midknight ur a funny person
01.38.22 #       <midknight2k3> am not
01.38.24 #       <midknight2k3> its the movie
01.38.34 #       <ze> like right now
01.38.36 #       <ze> i'm burning a candle
01.38.38 #       <ze> it's a candle i made
01.38.41 #       <ze> and it's a special color
01.38.43 #       <track> Midknight according to LinusN someone wanted the FM Recorder to make coffee!!
01.38.44 #       <midknight2k3> ze sucks
01.38.45 #       <midknight2k3> get the core
01.38.48 #       <ze> that i made on accident
01.38.51 Nick    [GoE]BENtheTEN is now known as [OFF]BtT (~quasi@80.238.199.45)
01.38.54 #       <Plugh> what color?
01.38.56 #       <ze> and it's got an arrowhead embeded in the wax
01.38.59 #       <ze> which i also made
01.39.00 #       <ze> heh
01.39.14 #       <ze> Plugh: it's this cool really dark grayish blue
01.39.33 #       <ze> it's semi-transparent so you can see bubbles through the surface, but it's still dark and opaque
01.39.37 #       <midknight2k3> shush
01.39.37 Quit    mecraw__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
01.39.43 #       <midknight2k3> get the core, watch it, then come back
01.39.45 #       <ze> it almost looks like stars in a night sky
01.39.51 #       <track> i thought this is a rockbox chartoom
01.39.53 #       <track> chatroom
01.40.48 #       <ze> i made it by throwing in some bits of black wax left over from some old votive's with some white wax i got a bunch of left over from a big brick of a candle
01.40.57 #       <midknight2k3> oh boy ze
01.41.38 #       <Plugh> I have a couple skull mold candles I poured for Halloween decorations
01.41.47 #       <ze> heh
01.41.51 #       <Plugh> one's black and the other is kinda pinkish-ivory
01.41.53 #       <midknight2k3> halloween?
01.41.54 #       <ze> i make my own molds
01.42.00 #       <midknight2k3> i dont want to go to plughs house for candy
01.42.02 #       <ze> the best ones so far
01.42.04 #       <Plugh> or Samhain
01.42.09 #       <Plugh> however you want to call it
01.42.12 #       <ze> i take a sheet of cardstock and roll it up
01.42.32 #       <ze> and tie it and put a cap in one end (or stick the roll into a piece of clay if i don't have a good sized cap for it)
01.42.41 #       <ze> err cap on one end not in
01.42.45 #       <midknight2k3> plugh contaminates the candy
01.42.50 #       <midknight2k3> i dont want something he messed with
01.42.53 #       <midknight2k3> i might catch is diseare
01.42.56 #       <midknight2k3> disease*
01.42.59 #       <midknight2k3> if he has one
01.43.08 #       <ze> then i put a pair of holes in the cardstock tube for a paperclip to go through
01.43.20 #       <midknight2k3> does nayone listen to me?
01.43.23 #       <ze> and i put a loop at the end of the wick and stick the paperclip through the loop inside the tube
01.43.24 #       <midknight2k3> hey you idiots
01.43.27 #       <midknight2k3> im not here
01.43.29 #       <midknight2k3> you are gay
01.43.32 #       <midknight2k3> and you cant read this
01.43.36 #       <ze> and then pull the wick tight through a hole in the cap and tape it if i have to
01.43.37 #       <midknight2k3> cause you're.. not reading it
01.43.40 #       <midknight2k3> see
01.43.46 #       <ze> and then i fill it with wax
01.43.51 #       * Dogger is sure he can hear some faint murmerring
01.44.00 #       <ze> let it harden, pull it all appart, and get a nice candle
01.44.03 #       <midknight2k3> DOGGER OVER HERE
01.44.05 #       <midknight2k3> its me!!!!!
01.44.09 #       <midknight2k3> right here!
01.44.10 #       * Dogger thinks it must be the wind or something
01.44.20 #       <ze> comes out a little rough but if i melt the surface a bit and rub over it with my finger at just the right time, it gets all smooth and pretty
01.44.57 #       * midknight2k3 is angered
01.45.03 #       <ze> and i do that with a candle made of this special color
01.45.07 #       <ze> and it looks Nice
01.45.14 #       <ze> dark and mysterious yet soothing and inviting
01.45.15 #       <midknight2k3> yep
01.45.17 #       <midknight2k3> looks Nice
01.45.21 #       <midknight2k3> is it Nice ze?
01.45.22 #       <ze> perfect for hiding something in
01.45.23 Join    Dude [0] (Dude@pm484-47.dialip.mich.net)
01.47.19 #       <midknight2k3> hey ze
01.48.59 #       <Dogger> http://www.truetechnology.co.kr/in_dsc25_spe.php
01.49.12 #       <Dogger> nice info on the TI320dsc25
01.49.57 #       <diddystar5> gotta go
01.50.00 Part    diddystar5 ("Client exiting")
01.51.28 #       <Dogger> says JTAG on there as well
01.52.07 Quit    track ("Leaving")
01.52.07 #       <midknight2k3> i aint reading it
01.52.17 #       <midknight2k3> mr. is-that-the-wind
01.52.25 #       <midknight2k3> or mr. i-guess-it-is
02.01.21 #       <Plugh> heh. just found a hard drive recovery service that posts their rates
02.01.28 #       <Plugh> a 20 gig drive is $1095
02.01.29 #       <midknight2k3> OH NO
02.01.38 #       <midknight2k3> i just did something bad
02.01.39 ***     Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"
02.02.52 #       <Plugh> you zipped yourself up in your pants zipper?
02.02.56 #       <Plugh> that's bad
02.03.21 #       <midknight2k3> ha ha
02.03.30 #       <midknight2k3> i just misaligned the hard drive pins
02.03.34 #       <midknight2k3> with the ata controller
02.03.41 #       <Plugh> did you see Something About Mary?
02.03.47 #       <Plugh> that was hysterical
02.03.52 #       <midknight2k3> no
02.03.57 #       <midknight2k3> i dont watch movies
02.04.00 #       <Plugh> ah. you should see it
02.04.00 #       <midknight2k3> unless its the core
02.04.10 #       <Plugh> ah
02.04.15 #       <Plugh> I don't watch TV
02.04.23 #       <Plugh> except movies
02.04.24 #       <midknight2k3> watch the core
02.04.27 #       <midknight2k3> i swear
02.04.32 #       <midknight2k3> by myself
02.04.41 #       <midknight2k3> it is good
02.05.57 #       <midknight2k3> go rent it
02.06.04 #       <midknight2k3> and the little rat
02.06.11 #       <midknight2k3> in the unobtanium box
02.06.14 #       <Plugh> I don't have any video rental memberships
02.06.20 #       <midknight2k3> buy it then
02.06.25 #       <midknight2k3> send it to me if you dont like it
02.06.29 #       <midknight2k3> ill take it
02.06.29 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.06.30 #       <Plugh> hell no. it looked stupid
02.06.34 #       <midknight2k3> i know
02.06.39 #       <midknight2k3> it was better than it looked
02.06.44 #       <Plugh> I have netflix
02.06.44 #       <midknight2k3> the previews were suck
02.06.49 #       <Plugh> I may put it on there
02.06.54 #       <midknight2k3> DOWNLOAD IT THEN for christ tsake
02.07.09 #       <Plugh> after I finish all the X-Files seasons and other stuff I have in the queue
02.07.09 #       <midknight2k3> isnt that the movie d/l service?
02.07.15 #       <Plugh> no
02.07.16 #       <midknight2k3> do they have the core on there?
02.07.20 #       <midknight2k3> oh
02.07.28 #       <Plugh> DVD by mail
02.08.06 #       <midknight2k3> you dummy
02.08.09 #       <midknight2k3> get the core i say
02.08.10 #       <midknight2k3> get it
02.08.14 #       <midknight2k3> go to thecoremovie.com
02.08.17 #       <midknight2k3> theres some video clips
02.08.26 #       <midknight2k3> one of the golden gate brig you were talking about
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02.10.49 #       <midknight2k3> found it?
02.10.51 #       <midknight2k3> or not looking?
02.14.39 #       <midknight2k3> plugh!
02.15.33 #       <Plugh> what
02.15.38 #       <Plugh> not looking
02.15.44 #       <Plugh> very busy with work
02.16.18 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
02.16.20 #       <midknight2k3> your rat
02.16.21 #       <midknight2k3> right
02.24.49 #       <midknight2k3> RATS
02.31.20 #       <midknight2k3> im gonna attempt an f2 f3 fix
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02.43.35 #       <Plugh> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2955931507&category=1469
02.43.41 #       <Plugh> funny shit
02.44.04 #       <midknight2k3> holy shit
02.47.13 #       <midknight2k3> I FIXED MY F BUTTONS
02.47.14 #       <midknight2k3> thank you
02.47.17 #       <midknight2k3> i hope i did
02.47.25 #       * Plugh worships mid
02.47.34 #       <midknight2k3> try it yourself
02.47.36 #       * Plugh is also full of shit
02.47.40 #       <midknight2k3> it requires supeglue
02.47.54 #       <midknight2k3> Super Glue by Super Glie(TM)
02.47.56 #       <midknight2k3> glue*
02.50.57 #       <midknight2k3>  kept the glass eye in the top drawer of my chest of drawers right next to my condoms. One night my girlfriend went in the drawer to get a condom out and damn near had a fatal heart attack. I love Uncle Bob and all but my girlfriend said that if I don't get rid of that damn glass eye I would never get sex again. Well, what do you do with a damned used glass eye? eBay of course! USA only. No reserve.
02.51.05 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.56.34 #       <midknight2k3> YES
02.56.36 #       <midknight2k3> YESS
02.56.39 #       <midknight2k3> BUTTONS FIXED
02.57.52 #       <ze> heh
02.57.56 #       <midknight2k3> really
02.57.58 #       <midknight2k3> it rocks
02.57.59 #       <midknight2k3> im so happy
02.58.04 #       <ze> is there no way to make smooth shiny lines/scratches in glass?
02.58.05 #       <midknight2k3> they actually work with apress
02.58.26 #       <midknight2k3> not a PRESS HARD
02.58.34 #       <ze> i can't get a laser to do it
02.58.43 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.58.44 #       <ze> that is to say, i've tried a laser and can't make it do it
02.59.12 #       <ze> i've tried all kinds of settings of speed and power
02.59.28 #       <ze> it always comes out semi-frosted and kinda rough
02.59.33 #       <midknight2k3> lol
02.59.41 #       <midknight2k3> send me the reject / not worth keeping stuff
02.59.46 #       <ze> i even did 1 speed and 100% power
02.59.53 #       <ze> it made a deep line in the glass
02.59.57 #       <ze> and fractured it
03.00.07 #       <ze> but it still wasn't very smooth
03.00.07 #       <ze> heh
03.00.08 Quit    Dude ()
03.00.10 #       <ze> and was too damn big
03.00.21 #       <ze> i want it like a light barely visible line
03.00.23 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha
03.00.26 #       <ze> that's shiny
03.00.31 #       <ze> so that if you hold it in the sun
03.00.40 #       <ze> you get a point of light
03.00.43 #       <ze> (being a curved line)
03.00.52 #       <midknight2k3> try this
03.00.57 #       <midknight2k3> 5 speed and 50% power
03.01.00 #       <ze> heh
03.01.07 #       <midknight2k3> really
03.01.08 #       <midknight2k3> it will work
03.01.18 #       <ze> i did 14 speed and 100% power
03.01.22 #       <ze> that's pretty close to that
03.01.34 #       <ze> it won't :/
03.01.34 #       <ze> heh
03.02.30 #       <ze> all i wanna do is make a hologram on a piece of glass :/
03.02.46 #       <midknight2k3> try it
03.02.50 #       <midknight2k3> 5 speed 50% power
03.02.53 #       <ze> heh
03.02.59 #       <ze> fine :p
03.03.20 #       <midknight2k3> you have a glass shop?
03.03.23 #       <midknight2k3> are you doing it now?
03.05.53 #       <ze> oh and what frequency
03.06.00 #       <ze> default is 2500 it goes up to 5000
03.06.10 #       <midknight2k3> er
03.06.12 #       <midknight2k3> 60
03.06.12 #       <ze> no, i have a laser engraver, and yes i'm doing it now
03.06.15 #       <midknight2k3> oh
03.06.17 #       <midknight2k3> 3200
03.06.30 #       <ze> ok
03.06.33 #       <ze> 5, 50, 3200 it is then
03.06.36 #       <ze> brb
03.06.42 #       <midknight2k3> yep
03.06.46 #       <midknight2k3> ok
03.10.44 #       <ze> horrible
03.10.46 #       <ze> big fat frosted line
03.11.00 #       <midknight2k3> why
03.11.02 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.11.06 #       <midknight2k3> i wanna see it
03.11.12 #       <midknight2k3> i wish we could email objects
03.11.19 #       <ze> yeah
03.11.22 #       <ze> soon
03.11.26 #       <midknight2k3> have a little box next to us
03.11.32 #       <midknight2k3> that builds the output
03.11.37 #       <midknight2k3> send a bomb to plugh
03.11.40 #       <ze> it'll be quicker than anybody thinks
03.11.45 #       <ze> before we've got quantum teleportation devices
03.11.45 #       <ze> :p
03.12.06 #       <midknight2k3> i will teleport to your house
03.12.12 #       <midknight2k3> if its ok with you
03.12.17 #       <midknight2k3> and make good glass line
03.12.27 #       <ze> well
03.12.36 #       <ze> by the time we get 'em though
03.12.44 #       <ze> i won't need to mess with this kinda silly crap to do things like that
03.12.57 #       <ze> i'd be able to shape energy into matter of specific structure and all
03.13.08 #       <midknight2k3> i will teleport to plughs
03.13.12 #       <midknight2k3> and mess with his mixers
03.13.14 #       <ze> no need for all these manufacturing techniques and crap
03.13.42 #       <midknight2k3> ze
03.13.44 #       <midknight2k3> you suck
03.13.45 #       <ze> won't that be neat? when creating objects is like creating software
03.13.54 #       <ze> like writing code
03.14.04 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.14.14 #       <ze> you just set various paramaters and it gets created exactly how you specify it
03.14.32 #       <ze> no empirical material sciences or chemestry
03.14.34 #       <midknight2k3> or i can teleport to plughs and mess with his mixers
03.14.52 #       <ze> no messy processes for manipulating and forming things
03.15.10 #       <ze> just like printing out an image
03.15.10 #       <midknight2k3> OR I CAN TELEPORT TO PLUGS AND MESS WITH HIS MIXERS
03.15.14 #       <midknight2k3> i wish i had a glass maker
03.15.21 #       <midknight2k3> or whatever
03.15.32 #       <ze> you just "print out" your finished object of whatever materials and form and etc you like
03.15.41 #       <midknight2k3> a big bomb then
03.15.54 #       <midknight2k3> ok
03.15.55 #       <ze> heh bomb's are so primitive
03.15.56 #       <midknight2k3> i just lost
03.15.59 #       <midknight2k3> a LITTLE screw
03.16.02 #       <midknight2k3> from the archos
03.16.08 #       <midknight2k3> about 1/8" long
03.16.11 #       <midknight2k3> not good
03.16.31 #       <ze> with the level of technology i'm talking about
03.16.47 #       <ze> trying to bomb anything would be like 
03.16.47 #       <midknight2k3> i could make a new one
03.16.47 #       <ze> heh
03.16.51 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.16.53 #       <midknight2k3> found it
03.16.56 #       <midknight2k3> thank you
03.16.58 #       <midknight2k3> hows the zen?
03.17.04 #       <midknight2k3> i'm getting one soon enough
03.17.11 #       <ze> like trying to assisinate somebody heavily guarded like the president or something
03.17.16 #       <ze> by a stinky bum with a knife
03.17.16 Part    ClosetPacifist ("scripting pie")
03.17.20 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.17.21 #       <ze> heh
03.17.25 #       <midknight2k3> hahhahaha
03.17.45 #       <midknight2k3> OH MY GOD
03.17.49 #       <midknight2k3> i just thought of something
03.17.49 #       <ze> it's just like sorta outclassed :p
03.17.52 #       <midknight2k3> with your technology
03.18.02 #       <midknight2k3> i could make countless tvs and smash them
03.18.08 #       <midknight2k3> get working on it ze
03.18.11 #       <midknight2k3> i need this program
03.18.12 #       <ze> hell
03.18.20 #       <ze> you could fly out into intergalactic space
03.18.25 #       <ze> make a TV the size of a star
03.18.26 #       <midknight2k3> i like space
03.18.28 #       <ze> and blow it up
03.18.30 #       <midknight2k3> HAHAHAHA
03.18.32 #       <midknight2k3> yay
03.18.57 #       <midknight2k3> any ideas
03.19.07 #       <midknight2k3> what would you do with that program you envision?
03.19.21 #       <ze> yeah...
03.19.26 #       <ze> whatever i want. :p
03.19.30 #       <midknight2k3> like?
03.19.32 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.19.46 #       <ze> like seriously
03.19.51 #       <ze> i couldn't even begin a list for you
03.19.55 #       <ze> it'd go on forever
03.19.57 #       <midknight2k3> just one thing
03.20.02 #       <midknight2k3> then its a bad idea
03.20.08 #       <ze> why?
03.20.09 #       <midknight2k3> spend all your life making stuff you want
03.20.16 #       <midknight2k3> waste it sitting there belting out code
03.20.17 #       <ze> oh it wouldn't just be making stuff
03.20.29 #       <ze> i'd make stuff to use and etc
03.20.49 #       <midknight2k3> well yeah
03.20.52 #       <midknight2k3> make a tv to smash
03.20.56 #       <midknight2k3> you need it
03.21.11 #       <ze> i mean i'd want to explore the universe for starters
03.21.16 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
03.21.20 #       <midknight2k3> i would too
03.21.32 #       <ze> yeah but i'm like really serious
03.21.37 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
03.21.39 #       <midknight2k3> seriously
03.21.45 #       <midknight2k3> millions of galaxies
03.21.50 #       <ze> I intend to explore the UNIVERSE for STARTERS
03.21.57 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.21.59 #       <midknight2k3> for starters
03.22.16 #       <ze> and then you know, we'll see how things go from there :p
03.22.23 #       <midknight2k3> there is nowhere to go from there
03.22.40 #       <ze> depends on how you look at it
03.22.44 #       <midknight2k3> then theres no more mysteries of the universe
03.22.48 #       <midknight2k3> we'd be just done
03.22.51 #       <midknight2k3> thats it
03.22.54 #       <ze> for one thing, people interpret the word 'universe' in different ways
03.22.57 #       <midknight2k3> back to boring earth life
03.23.03 #       <midknight2k3> well yeah
03.23.07 #       <midknight2k3> its hard to say
03.23.13 #       <midknight2k3> hafta wait till the time comes to tell
03.23.19 #       <ze> many people consider it as the collection of physical objects we can detect
03.23.21 #       <midknight2k3> as we dont know whats out there
03.23.35 #       <ze> and by that interpretation, i personally think there's more out there
03.23.46 #       <midknight2k3> i do too
03.23.50 #       <midknight2k3> there must be
03.23.59 #       <midknight2k3> i have this book "one universe"
03.24.08 #       <midknight2k3> its cool
03.24.16 #       <ze> but then even once you do have everything thats come to be so far known
03.24.24 #       <ze> there's always still the future
03.24.28 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
03.24.29 #       <ze> and your capacity to create
03.24.33 #       <ze> and everybody else's capacity to create
03.24.50 #       <ze> there's a potential infinity
03.24.50 #       <midknight2k3> http://www.nap.edu/catalog/9585.html
03.24.54 #       <midknight2k3> that one i have
03.24.54 #       <ze> for discovery and creation
03.24.55 #       <midknight2k3> its cool
03.25.37 #       <ze> bah
03.25.40 #       <ze> already lost my interest
03.25.44 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.25.45 #       <ze> "motion, matter, and energy"
03.25.53 #       <midknight2k3> ?
03.26.00 #       <ze> thats a pretty limited scope
03.26.13 #       <ze> three basic concepts, my ass
03.26.19 #       <ze> motion and matter are both energy
03.26.27 #       <midknight2k3> With these as a starting point
03.26.31 #       <midknight2k3> STARTING POINT
03.26.31 #       <midknight2k3> read
03.26.35 #       <ze> right
03.26.38 #       <ze> but it's starting from a bad place
03.26.42 #       <ze> motion and matter are both energy
03.26.48 #       <ze> and what about time?
03.26.52 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.26.58 #       <midknight2k3> it has neat pictures
03.27.03 #       <ze> if you really wanted a closer to fundamental starting point
03.27.10 #       <ze> take space and time
03.27.16 #       <ze> as your basic concepts
03.27.19 #       <ze> to explore
03.28.17 #       <ze> motion and matter are both made of space and time
03.28.18 #       <ze> heh
03.28.28 #       <ze> and energy and time are either the same thing or very closely linked
03.28.33 #       <midknight2k3> this xd reader aint working
03.30.59 #       <midknight2k3> ze: what about the ze zen
03.31.07 #       <ze> ze zen?
03.31.15 #       <midknight2k3> ze's zen
03.31.18 #       <ze> heh
03.31.21 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.32.03 #       <midknight2k3> is it broken?
03.32.10 #       <ze> ze zen... anything like za zen?
03.32.11 #       <ze> heh
03.32.16 #       <ze> nope, it works great
03.32.23 #       <midknight2k3> i wish i knew more about it
03.32.34 #       <midknight2k3> all i know is its a 20 gig hard drive mp3 player
03.32.37 #       <midknight2k3> ill look around
03.34.06 #       <ze> this is weird
03.34.07 #       <ze> http://www.atlasbooks.com/marktplc/01013.htm
03.34.19 #       <ze> what it's talking about sounds foreign to me
03.34.25 #       <ze> there's a lot of things that do that
03.34.44 #       <ze> like i'm visited a world i don't belong in
03.34.59 #       <ze> because things being said seem to apply to someone else and not me
03.35.09 #       <midknight2k3> did you buy it?
03.35.13 #       <ze> no
03.35.17 #       <ze> i have no trouble with sleep
03.35.20 #       <ze> i don't even think about it
03.35.22 #       <midknight2k3> oh
03.35.23 #       <midknight2k3> i need it
03.35.25 #       <midknight2k3> its about sleep?
03.35.25 #       <ze> i get tired, i go to bed, and i sleep
03.35.29 #       <ze> i sleep deeply
03.35.31 #       <midknight2k3> i stay awake for hours sometimes
03.35.35 #       <ze> i do too
03.35.38 #       <ze> if i'm not tired i can't sleep
03.35.39 #       <ze> heh
03.35.40 #       <midknight2k3> i have a too active imagination
03.35.43 #       <midknight2k3> well yeah
03.35.45 #       <midknight2k3> right
03.35.49 #       <midknight2k3> im just not usually tired
03.35.57 #       <ze> do more
03.35.58 #       <midknight2k3> i postpone sleeping then i postpone waking up
03.36.03 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.36.06 #       <ze> seriously
03.36.09 #       <ze> get out there and do stuff
03.36.10 #       <ze> wear yourself out
03.36.20 #       <midknight2k3> i ran around the block today
03.36.22 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.36.24 #       <ze> pff
03.36.28 #       <ze> i mean actualy be active like all day
03.36.34 #       <midknight2k3> i know
03.36.36 #       <ze> you'll sleep no problem
03.36.36 #       <ze> heh
03.36.43 #       <midknight2k3> i just wish days were longer
03.36.48 #       <midknight2k3> i want to have time for it all
03.36.58 #       <ze> days don't need to be longer
03.36.59 #       <midknight2k3> rockbox is important to me, and i like working on it
03.37.02 #       <ze> nights are nice too
03.37.03 #       <midknight2k3> i like lots of stuff
03.37.06 #       <ze> variety is important
03.37.10 #       <midknight2k3> right
03.37.24 #       <ze> learn to do a lot in your dreams
03.37.28 #       <ze> along with doing a lot in your days
03.37.30 #       <midknight2k3> i once..
03.37.35 #       <midknight2k3> in my dream
03.37.36 #       <midknight2k3> hm
03.37.46 #       <midknight2k3> last night i dremt i rode a train i think
03.37.50 #       <ze> heh
03.37.56 #       <midknight2k3> something like that
03.37.59 #       <midknight2k3> you know what i think
03.38.18 #       <midknight2k3> i think our "dreams" are us in another place, another reality
03.38.55 #       <ze> in a way they are
03.39.07 #       <ze> but it's not quite the same kindof concept of reality
03.39.11 #       <ze> as what we consider this waking life
03.39.25 #       <midknight2k3> it could be
03.39.36 #       <ze> well what i mean is
03.39.43 #       <ze> this reality here, while we're awake
03.39.55 #       <midknight2k3> awake used subjectively of course
03.39.57 #       <ze> this is a specific place and time
03.40.06 #       <ze> that we experience
03.40.21 #       <ze> dreams aren't so rigid
03.40.32 #       <midknight2k3> you can do anything in dreams
03.40.49 #       <ze> dreams are more like
03.41.02 #       <midknight2k3> one time i dreamt my xbox flashed its red led at me
03.41.06 #       <ze> a loose collection of places in a bigger reality that this one is also part of
03.41.10 #       <midknight2k3> and i was like, noo its busted
03.41.15 #       <midknight2k3> and i woke up
03.41.21 #       <ze> we have our internal places
03.41.24 #       <midknight2k3> ze makes little sense
03.41.37 #       <ze> that's just ours and what nobody else would consider to be part of their reality
03.41.47 #       <ze> and then there's lots of other places
03.41.51 #       <ze> that you can go to through dreams
03.41.59 #       <ze> dreams is more like just another mode of experience
03.42.06 #       <ze> that's not tied to any particular reality
03.42.09 #       <midknight2k3> lets talk about something else
03.42.14 #       <midknight2k3> this is complicated
03.42.19 #       <ze> no, it's simple
03.42.27 #       <midknight2k3> if youre you
03.42.30 #       <ze> ok for an analogy
03.42.31 #       <midknight2k3> it makes sense
03.42.38 #       <ze> lets take this waking world
03.42.43 #       <midknight2k3> it just takes a little work to put it together
03.42.49 #       <ze> now this is a "mode of experience"
03.42.54 #       <ze> where you can go different places within this world
03.42.55 #       <midknight2k3> yes
03.42.59 #       <midknight2k3> right
03.43.09 #       <ze> while dreams is a "mode of experience"
03.43.17 #       <ze> where you can go different worlds within the universe
03.43.18 #       <ze> sorta
03.43.18 #       <ze> heh
03.43.23 #       <midknight2k3> right
03.43.40 #       <midknight2k3> there is a univers for each of us
03.43.47 #       <midknight2k3> with our own places
03.43.54 #       <midknight2k3> that we go to when we dream
03.44.22 #       <ze> yes
03.44.30 #       <ze> but thats still only part of the dream "mode of experience"
03.44.37 #       <ze> thats just one of the worlds we can go
03.44.40 #       <ze> there's shared ones too
03.45.05 #       <ze> we can not only enter each other's worlds
03.45.05 #       <midknight2k3> yes
03.45.05 #       <ze> but there's other worlds that exist outside of us
03.45.10 #       <ze> that we can access through dreams
03.45.58 #       <midknight2k3> sounds like you need to watch the core
03.46.04 #       <midknight2k3> all your problems will be fixed
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03.46.35 #       <Plugh> hello merk
03.46.48 #       <merksperks> Hi Plugh
03.47.01 #       <merksperks> can you register this?
03.47.10 #       <Plugh> register?
03.47.15 #       <midknight2k3> the jirc chat
03.47.26 #       <Plugh> I can read what you typed
03.47.28 #       <ze> like with nickserv?
03.47.46 #       <ze> oh
03.47.46 #       <ze> heh
03.47.47 #       <merksperks> can you guys help me out with an archos multimedia 20?
03.47.55 #       <Plugh> not really
03.48.20 #       <Plugh> we're not really MM folks
03.48.28 #       <midknight2k3> plugh aint
03.48.34 #       <Plugh> we all work with the mp3 units
03.48.41 #       <merksperks> what is this chat for?
03.48.42 #       <midknight2k3> PLUGH SUC--stinks
03.49.11 #       <Plugh> it's for the rockbox firmware replacement for Archos mp3 hard drive players/recorders
03.49.50 #       <merksperks> That is what I have and I would like to use rockbox as my firmware but not sure if it is supported with the archos unit I have?
03.50.06 #       <ze> ok so it's like 7pm
03.50.12 #       <ze> i woke up at 1:30pm and had a cup of green tea
03.50.27 #       <ze> and nothing else all day, now i'm having a banana and a cup of cranberry juice
03.50.38 #       <ze> because i'm told that dinner will be late
03.50.40 #       <midknight2k3> i want cranberry juice
03.50.53 #       <midknight2k3> soon you will be able to email me some cranberry juice
03.51.06 #       <midknight2k3> and i can dump it out cause you prolly spit in it
03.51.24 #       <ze> why would you think i'd spit in juice
03.51.32 #       <midknight2k3> if its for me
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03.51.36 #       <midknight2k3> i have many reasons
03.51.37 #       <ze> anybody's juice
03.51.46 #       <ze> i respect juice too much
03.51.46 #       <ze> :p
03.51.47 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha
03.51.50 #       <midknight2k3> youre funny
03.52.00 #       <midknight2k3> what makes you think i'd spit in anybody's juice
03.52.04 #       <midknight2k3> thats funny
03.52.07 #       <midknight2k3> watch the core
03.52.12 #       <ze> heh
03.52.58 #       <ze> but really doesn't there seem like something contradictory about that
03.53.09 #       <midknight2k3> lol
03.53.12 #       <ze> somebody drinking green tea and fruit juices and eating fruit
03.53.16 #       <Plugh> exit polls are showing Arnold with a MAJORITY
03.53.23 #       <Plugh> that's crazy
03.53.26 #       <ze> but having bad eating habbits like not eating most of the day
03.53.26 #       <Plugh> 51% of the vote
03.53.35 #       <midknight2k3> ze: lol
03.53.38 #       <midknight2k3> plugh: you stink
03.53.50 #       <ze> Plugh: did you honestly think it'd be otherwise?
03.53.58 #       <midknight2k3> OOH he told you plugh
03.53.58 #       <Plugh> yeah, I know. Beans, onions, and cabbage... sorry
03.54.06 #       <ze> hehe
03.54.14 #       <ze> Plugh: you ever see domolition man?
03.54.17 #       <Plugh> ze: I thought it would be a plurality win. Not a majority
03.54.24 #       <Plugh> ze: yeah. I own it on DVD
03.54.38 #       <midknight2k3> PLUGH: why dont you own the core?
03.54.41 #       <ze> Plugh: there's something unsettling about the whole thing
03.54.41 #       <ze> heh
03.55.01 #       <midknight2k3> ze:
03.55.09 #       <midknight2k3> i never see the famous "hmm heh" anymore
03.55.11 #       <midknight2k3> why not
03.55.24 #       <ze> maybe you're just not looking
03.55.35 #       <midknight2k3> i am too
03.55.35 #       <ze> or maybe there hasn't been much to provoke it
03.55.38 #       <ze> :p
03.55.41 #       <midknight2k3> you are stupid
03.55.46 #       <midknight2k3> provocation alert
03.55.52 #       <midknight2k3> now you say hmm heh
03.55.59 #       <midknight2k3> cause its curious that youre stupid
03.56.05 #       <ze> or maybe i'm just getting less and less easy to provoke
03.56.09 #       <Plugh> midknight2k3: cuz it looked lame. I got so sick of Armageddon, Space Cowboys, Deep Impact, etc that The Core hold NO interest for me
03.56.21 #       <ze> hehe
03.56.47 #       <midknight2k3> plugh: listen to me
03.56.53 #       <ze> but come on
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03.57.01 #       <ze> we've only got another 8 years or so to enjoy such movies
03.57.04 #       <midknight2k3> is it not work like three bucks to make me stop bugging you and to know the worlds best special fx movie?
03.57.15 #       <midknight2k3> sheesh
03.57.33 #       <ze> if that!
03.58.05 #       <ze> the burning rocks could start raining any year now
03.58.06 #       <ze> :p
03.58.14 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
03.58.16 #       <midknight2k3> what he said
03.58.38 #       <Plugh> http://www.extremepumpkins.com/
03.58.42 #       <ze> somebody should make a new kind of disaster movie
03.58.50 #       <midknight2k3> THE CORE
03.58.52 #       <ze> where man's the threat
03.58.53 #       <midknight2k3> is a new disaster movie
03.58.59 #       <midknight2k3> never before done anything like this
03.59.04 #       <ze> base it on the current political climate
03.59.26 #       <ze> and economic climate
03.59.27 #       <ze> and etc
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04.00.09 #       <ze> where increased government privitization and the war against terror along with economic circumstances and everything else going on
04.00.22 #       <ze> adds up to a really fucked scenario
04.00.25 #       <ze> heh
04.00.30 #       <midknight2k3> or you can just see the core
04.00.36 #       <ze> midknight2k3: i said a NEW KIND
04.00.47 #       <midknight2k3> it is new
04.00.50 #       <ze> no
04.00.53 #       <ze> it's the same kinda crap
04.00.59 #       <midknight2k3> is not
04.00.59 #       <ze> some silly global catastrophe stuff
04.01.07 #       <midknight2k3> its not outer space, it's inner space
04.01.14 #       <midknight2k3> and outer space turns against them
04.01.18 #       <midknight2k3> its good
04.01.19 #       <ze> you mean like Earthquake?
04.01.21 #       <ze> :p
04.01.21 #       <midknight2k3> i tell you
04.01.26 #       <midknight2k3> ?
04.01.28 #       <ze> seriously
04.01.30 #       <midknight2k3> no
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04.01.45 #       <ze> give it up, man, i'm talking about something different
04.02.05 #       <midknight2k3> just TRY IT is all i ask
04.02.08 #       <ze> Plugh: what do you think of my new kind of disaster movie idea?
04.02.10 #       <midknight2k3> what movie do you hate
04.02.21 #       <ze> queen of the damned
04.02.26 #       <midknight2k3> i'm reading the pumpkin thing
04.02.27 #       <ze> that movie sucked so much ass
04.02.31 #       <midknight2k3> it cant be worse than that ze
04.02.40 #       <ze> seriously, i believe you there
04.02.47 #       <ze> gay niggers from outer space was more entertaining
04.02.47 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.02.52 #       <midknight2k3> jus try it is all i say
04.02.56 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha ze
04.02.56 #       <Plugh> sorry, was looking at extreme pumpkins
04.03.01 #       <midknight2k3> i was too
04.03.05 #       <Plugh> I have that movie on my hard drive, ze
04.03.14 #       <midknight2k3> what movie
04.03.14 #       <ze> gnfos? me too
04.03.22 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.03.22 #       <Plugh> yeah
04.04.47 #       <midknight2k3> okay listen up
04.04.57 #       <midknight2k3> i hope this is the last time, but please watch the core
04.05.02 #       <ze> http://psyco.yi.org:8042/jacko.jpg
04.05.04 #       <midknight2k3> i am the oly person in the world who has i think
04.05.06 #       <ze> that was one i did in 2001
04.05.15 #       <ze> bad picture but you can see what it was well enough
04.05.15 #       <ze> heh
04.05.32 #       <midknight2k3> neat
04.05.48 #       <midknight2k3> YAY
04.05.53 #       <midknight2k3> you left your eye photo up
04.06.04 #       <ze> heh
04.06.07 #       <ze> that one's old and crappy
04.06.14 #       <midknight2k3> i want zen photos
04.06.17 #       <midknight2k3> of the ui
04.06.21 #       <ze> check out http://psyco.yi.org:8042/eye_dark.jpg
04.06.25 #       <midknight2k3> you said you would during your ebay phototaking
04.06.34 #       <ze> yep, i haven't done anything with ebay yet
04.06.43 #       <midknight2k3> you rat
04.06.50 #       <midknight2k3> SCARY
04.06.54 #       <ze> yeah but my eye owns you
04.07.31 #       <ze> i mean wtf kinda human has dark grayblue eyes with yellow flamish streaks around the center
04.07.52 #       <midknight2k3> its SCARY i said
04.08.25 #       <ze> http://psyco.yi.org:8042/eye_light.jpg
04.08.31 #       <ze> that one's not as dark and the pupil's smaller
04.08.44 #       <ze> but check out http://psyco.yi.org:8042/eye_weird_1024.jpg
04.09.39 #       <ze> i use a version of that last one for the background of my blog http://free-zero.blogspot.com/
04.09.56 #       <midknight2k3> scary
04.09.58 #       <midknight2k3> again
04.10.07 #       <ze> what's scary about it?
04.10.14 #       <midknight2k3> the dark one
04.10.24 #       <ze> still whats scary about it?
04.10.27 #       <Plugh> ze
04.10.30 #       <Plugh> speaking of eyes
04.10.31 #       <ze> Plugh
04.10.31 #       <Plugh> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2955931507&category=1469
04.10.36 #       <ze> heh
04.10.54 #       <Plugh> read the whole thing
04.11.03 #       <Plugh> I was laughing my ass off by the end of it
04.11.08 #       <midknight2k3> i will too
04.11.16 #       <Plugh> no mid
04.11.22 #       <Plugh> you shouldn't read such things
04.11.27 #       <Plugh> it might give you ideas
04.11.34 #       <midknight2k3> go away plugh
04.11.37 #       <midknight2k3> i already have ideas
04.12.00 #       <ze> heheh
04.12.22 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.13.05 #       <ze> my eye's better
04.13.05 #       <ze> :p
04.13.20 #       <midknight2k3> that is a funny story
04.13.24 #       <ze> yeah
04.13.36 #       <midknight2k3> plugh is selling it
04.13.37 #       <midknight2k3> neat
04.13.40 #       <Plugh> check this out ze. http://www.extremepumpkins.com/ligpum.html
04.13.59 #       <midknight2k3> why ze
04.14.01 #       <midknight2k3> why not me
04.14.11 #       <Plugh> okay. you too mid
04.14.15 #       <ze> hmm
04.14.15 #       <ze> heh
04.14.19 #       <ze> ok
04.14.19 #       <midknight2k3> YES
04.14.22 #       <midknight2k3> we have hmm heh
04.14.22 #       <ze> what about it?
04.14.33 #       <midknight2k3> HMM HEH IS ALIVE
04.14.35 #       <ze> haha
04.14.37 #       <midknight2k3> ze is provoked
04.14.37 #       <ze> :p
04.14.41 #       <midknight2k3> stand back
04.14.51 #       <ze> no the hmm heh was provoked
04.14.51 #       <Plugh> imagine walking up to someone's house and they have a pumpkin lighted with a 10,000 candlepower halogen light. OUCH
04.14.57 #       <ze> Plugh: heh
04.15.12 #       <midknight2k3> oh
04.15.20 #       <midknight2k3> i have two one MILLION candlepower ones
04.15.33 #       <midknight2k3> they are cool
04.15.44 #       <ze> imagine walking up to someone's house and they have a pumkin levitating with a spooky green glowing fog very slowly like extra-thick molases pouring out through it's holes
04.15.57 #       <midknight2k3> molases
04.15.58 #       <midknight2k3> good word
04.16.03 #       <Plugh> http://www.extremepumpkins.com/drowinbagcre.html
04.16.06 #       <Plugh> that one's good
04.16.42 #       <ze> heh
04.17.00 #       <ze> i still like my idea better
04.17.00 #       <ze> :p
04.17.41 #       <ze> and i guess it's spelled molasses
04.17.55 #       <midknight2k3> yes
04.17.57 #       <midknight2k3> good one ze
04.18.44 #       <ze> sounds like what you'd call a group of people with moles on their asses
04.18.48 #       <ze> you bunch of molasses
04.19.17 #       <midknight2k3> ha ha
04.19.58 #       <Plugh> I think I'm gonna do a puking pumpkin down the front porch steps
04.20.05 #       <midknight2k3> OH YEAH
04.20.09 #       <ze> heh
04.20.19 #       <ze> oh
04.20.21 #       <ze> that reminds me
04.20.24 #       <ze> i should scan this arrowhead i made
04.20.28 #       <Plugh> and maybe the gunshot wound one at the top of the bannister
04.20.51 #       <Plugh> I'll have my skull candles by the door
04.21.20 #       <ze> heh
04.21.40 #       <Plugh> but I've got to do the drowning pumpkin somehow. Maybe I'll drown one in a white 5 gallon bucket
04.21.51 #       <ze> heh
04.21.55 #       <ze> i don't think a bucket would work so well
04.22.08 #       <Plugh> even if I lighted it?
04.22.15 #       <ze> but with a plastic bag, you don't even need to have it drowning
04.22.36 #       <ze> leave the water out and it can just be suffocating
04.22.49 #       <Plugh> ooh. yeah. Gotta draw the air out though
04.22.59 #       <Plugh> so the bag sucks into the mouth hole
04.23.02 #       <ze> hehe yeah
04.23.25 #       <Plugh> I could probably do that with my vacuum sealer ;)
04.23.33 #       <ze> i think you could do a better expressive face than that drowning one though
04.23.41 #       <Plugh> definately
04.23.48 #       <Plugh> it would be my own style
04.23.53 #       <ze> yeah
04.23.53 #       <Plugh> I'll take pix
04.24.01 #       <ze> cool
04.24.11 #       <ze> so yeah i'm gonna go scan this arrowhead
04.24.31 #       <Plugh> I wonder if I could get a breathing, suffocating pumpkin
04.25.02 #       <midknight2k3> funny plugh
04.25.23 #       <Plugh> I don't know of a pump that could cycle forward and reverse, except like a bellows
04.25.49 #       <midknight2k3> haha
04.25.52 #       <midknight2k3> dummy
04.26.05 #       <midknight2k3> kids are scared of your house
04.26.09 #       <midknight2k3> who cares anyways
04.26.09 #       <Plugh> good
04.26.44 #       <Plugh> they should be scared of my pair of vicious attack cats
04.27.11 #       <midknight2k3> oh no
04.27.16 #       <midknight2k3> i want a photo of thes cats
04.27.29 #       <midknight2k3> ze
04.27.37 #       <midknight2k3> theres no comments on your blog
04.27.40 #       <midknight2k3> advertise it
04.29.57 #       <ze> no
04.30.09 #       <midknight2k3> rise o mozilla firebird!
04.30.11 #       <ze> there's 3 entries with comments on them
04.30.13 #       <midknight2k3> you can say that again
04.30.19 #       <midknight2k3> i love that thing
04.30.35 #       <ze> and i'd probably remove comments if it weren't for the posterity of those
04.30.40 #       <midknight2k3> *searches blog for comments*
04.30.59 #       <midknight2k3> found one
04.31.00 #       <midknight2k3> with two
04.31.10 #       <ze> yeah i respond to my comments
04.31.14 #       <midknight2k3> i see
04.31.16 #       <ze> er to others comments as it were
04.31.17 #       <ze> heh
04.31.18 #       <midknight2k3> i used to
04.31.29 #       <midknight2k3> my blog broke
04.31.49 #       <midknight2k3> http://midknight2k3.blog-city.com/
04.31.56 #       <midknight2k3> can you believe that thing is still alive?
04.32.08 #       <midknight2k3> hey're supposed to shut it down after 60 days
04.32.16 #       <midknight2k3> its been about that long for many times
04.32.47 #       <ze> pff
04.32.51 #       <ze> what a bunch of crap
04.33.00 #       <midknight2k3> what
04.33.03 #       <ze> actualy
04.33.05 #       <ze> not
04.33.08 #       <ze> it's not even a bunch of crap
04.33.10 #       <ze> it's just a little crap
04.33.11 #       <midknight2k3> what
04.33.11 #       <ze> heh
04.33.13 #       <ze> your blog
04.33.13 #       <midknight2k3> hahaha
04.33.14 #       <ze> heh
04.33.19 #       <midknight2k3> it doesnt show text
04.33.21 #       <midknight2k3> i swear
04.33.23 #       <midknight2k3> somethings busted
04.33.34 #       <midknight2k3> i put in a blog and it shows up empty
04.33.40 #       <midknight2k3> makes me angered
04.33.44 #       <ze> well it's probably either your shitty host or your shitty customized theme
04.33.45 #       <ze> heh
04.33.51 #       <midknight2k3> none
04.33.56 #       <midknight2k3> i reset the theme
04.34.35 #       <midknight2k3> hey dummy
04.34.49 #       <midknight2k3> ah no
04.34.56 #       <midknight2k3> i forgot to put the riot back together
04.35.01 #       <midknight2k3> at least i fixed my F buttons
04.36.59 #       <ze> so i took up flintknapping
04.37.11 #       <ze> which, before you ask, is how stone tools were made back in that era
04.37.16 #       <ze> how the native americans made arrowheads and such
04.37.33 #       <ze> by chipping agate, obsidian, and of course flint and other such materials
04.37.38 #       <ze> into various shapes for various purposes
04.38.04 #       <ze> i took a piece of leather to work on, some flakes of osbidian i've got, and a piece of deer horn
04.38.09 #       <ze> and started chipping away
04.38.15 #       <ze> and i've made 2 arrowheads a day for 3 days
04.38.20 #       <ze> i made this one on my 3rd day
04.38.22 #       <ze> http://psyco.yi.org:8042/ah_front.jpg
04.38.26 #       <ze> http://psyco.yi.org:8042/ah_back.jpg
04.38.37 #       <ze> it's my favorite so far
04.38.54 #       <midknight2k3> neat
04.39.00 #       <ze> really, it wouldn't be too practical as an arrowhead the way it is, because it doesn't have any notches to help tie it securely to the arrow
04.39.08 #       <ze> but those could be added if i were interested in such things
04.39.15 #       <ze> but i like to make them for their looks
04.40.06 #       <midknight2k3> must you ramble all day?
04.40.19 #       <ze> when do i ramble all day?
04.40.22 #       <Plugh> you did that with flint knapping?
04.40.28 #       <ze> Plugh: yes
04.40.33 #       <Plugh> good work
04.40.38 #       <midknight2k3> yes
04.40.39 #       <ze> i chipped an obsidian flake with a piece of deerhorn into that shape
04.40.40 #       <ze> heh
04.40.43 #       <Plugh> thanks for keeping the art alive
04.40.55 #       <ze> my mom's great uncle got me started
04.41.01 #       <midknight2k3> plugh is ungrateful
04.41.04 #       <ze> when i was like 13, but i only tried it a couple times and did really lousy
04.41.16 #       <ze> and then the stuff sat in a can that rusted out over the years
04.41.32 #       <ze> then recently i cleaned it all up and gave it another try, and been doing much better heh
04.41.55 #       <ze> i started practicing with some of the flakes he gave me
04.42.06 #       <ze> soon i'll start working on some flakes i broke myself from a few chunks of obsidian i had
04.42.23 #       <ze> there's one flake in particular i'm quite fond of, it's gotta be like a one in a million sorta thing
04.42.29 #       <ze> it's the shape of a guitar pick or alien head sorta
04.42.32 #       <midknight2k3> here we go again
04.42.37 #       <ze> and it's got a razor edge all the way around
04.43.04 #       <Plugh> well, I'm gonna scoot
04.43.06 #       <ze> one side is almost completely flat and the other is a smooth curve
04.43.08 #       <ze> it's beautiful
04.43.08 #       <ze> heh
04.43.10 #       <Plugh> I'm already running late
04.43.16 #       <ze> see ya
04.43.31 #       <midknight2k3> bye
04.43.56 #       <midknight2k3> is he gone?
04.44.02 #       <ze> in fact i think i'll go scan that flake now
04.44.08 #       <midknight2k3> uy
04.44.17 #       <ze> all it'd need to be an arrowhead is some notches heh
04.44.24 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.44.25 #       <ze> so i'm not entirely sure what, if anything, i want to do with it
04.45.06 #       <midknight2k3> hey ze
04.45.17 #       <midknight2k3> do you speak C fluently?
04.47.53 #       <midknight2k3> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
04.47.56 #       <midknight2k3> my button
04.48.06 #       <midknight2k3> noo it cant be
04.48.08 #       <midknight2k3> GOD NO PLEASE
04.49.16 #       <midknight2k3> fixed\
04.50.25 #       <ze> ok
04.50.27 #       <ze> http://psyco.yi.org:8042/af_front.jpg
04.50.34 #       <ze> http://psyco.yi.org:8042/af_back.jpg
04.50.46 #       <midknight2k3> cool
04.51.09 #       <ze> now that one, i did break into that shape but i didn't shape it like that
04.51.17 #       <ze> it basically naturally broke like that
04.51.18 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.51.32 #       <midknight2k3> I GET IT NOW
04.51.45 #       <midknight2k3> remember the ajz file icon when you had your archos?
04.51.56 #       <ze> um, no
04.51.56 #       <ze> heh
04.52.02 #       <midknight2k3> its like a square with big corners and a missing pixel in the middle
04.52.05 #       <midknight2k3> it's an ARCHOS
04.52.06 #       <midknight2k3> duh
04.52.09 #       <midknight2k3> i never guesed
04.52.09 #       <ze> heh
04.52.14 #       <ze> ok
04.52.19 #       <midknight2k3> i thought it was stoopid till i understood
04.52.27 #       <midknight2k3> which is now
04.52.57 #       <midknight2k3> mistake in didys patch
04.54.12 #       <ze> you know i did a rockbox logo once?
04.54.17 #       <midknight2k3> i remember
04.54.17 #       <ze> it got rejected
04.54.19 #       <ze> http://psyco.yi.org:8042/rockbox-logo.png
04.54.25 #       <midknight2k3> it was the archos with curved sides
04.54.26 #       <ze> i smoothed it out since the last version i posted
04.54.50 #       <midknight2k3> and zagor didnt like it
04.54.58 #       <midknight2k3> cause he didnt want it to do with the archos
04.55.02 #       <midknight2k3> its entirely different
04.55.03 #       <ze> heh
04.55.12 #       <ze> yeah
04.55.13 #       <midknight2k3> cool
04.55.18 #       <midknight2k3> howd you do it?
04.55.20 #       <midknight2k3> good job at least
04.55.22 #       <ze> in the gimp
04.55.23 #       <midknight2k3> looks better
04.55.36 #       <ze> i could do it better now, i'm more familiar with working with the gimp
04.55.46 #       <midknight2k3> make another rockbox logo
04.55.57 #       <ze> nah
04.56.05 #       <midknight2k3> really
04.56.07 #       <midknight2k3> i wanna see
04.56.20 #       <midknight2k3> i love mozilla firebird
04.56.36 #       <midknight2k3> i just dont like the fact that its a 3.7gb disk space taker to use the source
04.56.37 #       <midknight2k3> lol
04.56.49 #       <ze> eh?
04.56.50 #       <ze> heh
04.56.57 #       <ze> if you like firebird then why do you use IE6?
04.57.02 #       <midknight2k3> mozilla source is like 2.7 or 3.7 gb
04.57.07 #       <ze> no it's not
04.57.08 #       <midknight2k3> i dont often use ie
04.57.13 #       <ze> it's a few hundred MB at most
04.57.15 #       <ze> i've compiled it before
04.57.19 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
04.57.28 #       <midknight2k3> but it says you need 2.7 or 3.7 gb to work with it
04.57.35 #       <ze> and a compiled version of firebird is small
04.57.44 #       <midknight2k3> yeah
04.57.47 #       <midknight2k3> right
04.58.12 #       <ze> so why do you use ie at all
04.58.23 #       <midknight2k3> dunno
04.58.30 #       <midknight2k3> i'm sort of moving over to mozilla
04.58.39 #       <midknight2k3> i dont like that it wont stream wmv's..
04.58.53 #       <midknight2k3> that's my main problem
04.58.53 #       <ze> it will if you setup whatever crap does
04.58.54 #       <ze> heh
04.59.01 #       <ze> the plugin or helper or whatever
04.59.01 #       <midknight2k3> i tried that
04.59.05 #       <ze> well you failed
04.59.08 #       <ze> try again
04.59.09 #       <ze> :p
04.59.11 #       <midknight2k3> well you suck
04.59.20 #       <ze> hell i could do it in linux
04.59.28 #       <ze> i could set it to run mplayer on the url
04.59.36 #       <ze> or something
04.59.36 #       <ze> heh
05.00.02 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.00.13 #       <ze> and firebird's extentions own
05.00.24 #       <midknight2k3> pwn?
05.00.50 #       <ze> i've got an rss reader panel and a thing that blocks flash unless you click on it and stuff
05.00.53 #       <ze> heh
05.01.14 #       <ze> hmm i forgot i installed a browser uptime plugin
05.01.26 #       <ze> "This browser window is 17 hours, 43 minutes, and 23 seconds old."
05.01.36 #       <midknight2k3> 19:54:49 | <ze> heh - 19:56:40 | <ze> heh - 19:58:46 | <ze> heh - 19:59:23 | <ze> heh - 20:00:39 | <ze> heh
05.02.58 #       <midknight2k3> 19:51:42 | <ze> heh - 19:51:55 | <ze> heh - 19:42:54 | <ze> heh - 19:40:26 | <ze> heh - 19:33:33 | <ze> heh - 19:33:00 | <ze> heh - 19:32:57 | <ze> heh - 19:31:04 | <ze> heh
05.03.07 #       <midknight2k3> talk about a 'heh' fetish
05.03.09 #       <midknight2k3> heh
05.04.41 #       <midknight2k3> it's a joke
05.23.15 #       <midknight2k3> ze
05.23.20 #       <midknight2k3> do you know about bmp2rb
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05.39.17 #       <midknight2k3> --- Log for 28.07.102 Server: lerouge.openprojects.net Channel: # ... 
05.39.17 #       <midknight2k3> ... 12.41.44 # <Linus> when mas_run() works, my unit also gets distortion 12.42.50
05.39.17 #       <midknight2k3> # <PsycoXul> hmm heh 12.43.09 ... and with old rockbox, today's build, latest cvs ... 
05.39.17 #       <midknight2k3> rockbox.haxx.se/irc/rockbox-20020728.txt - 20k - Cached - Similar pages 
05.39.26 #       <midknight2k3> hmm heh
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05.43.53 #       <sagegoku> hey
05.43.56 #       <sagegoku> i need help
05.43.59 #       <midknight2k3> hiya
05.44.01 #       <midknight2k3> sure
05.44.04 #       <midknight2k3> help with?
05.44.10 #       <sagegoku> i have a jbr20
05.44.29 #       <sagegoku> is there anyway to, when i press 'on', have the little selector on the song im playing
05.44.50 #       <sagegoku> like if i go into random, switch through a few songs, then press on, im still at the song i started with
05.44.58 #       <midknight2k3> oh
05.45.02 #       <midknight2k3> there is a way
05.45.10 #       <sagegoku> which is?
05.45.10 #       <midknight2k3> give me a sec, i'll look at the code and see
05.45.17 #       <sagegoku> thank you so much
05.45.34 #       <midknight2k3> can't guarantee anything but i'll check :)
05.46.25 #       <midknight2k3> piece of junk thing
05.46.35 #       <midknight2k3> i tried to do something wit h the status bar, and it didnt work
05.46.37 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.46.53 #       <sagegoku> yah ive tried doing that
05.47.05 #       <midknight2k3> i moved the battery level around and stuff
05.47.58 #       <sagegoku> k forget about it
05.48.04 #       <midknight2k3> just a sec
05.48.07 #       <midknight2k3> looking
05.48.36 #       <midknight2k3> should be right around here somewheres
05.48.44 #       <sagegoku> well i have one other q
05.48.49 #       <midknight2k3> shoot
05.48.53 #       <sagegoku> is there any way to change the pitch quicker
05.48.58 #       <sagegoku> than by .1%
05.49.02 #       <midknight2k3> i found an exploit of that
05.49.03 #       <midknight2k3> :)
05.49.20 #       <midknight2k3> hold the right arrow and click up quickly
05.49.25 #       <midknight2k3> it will jump by 2.1%
05.49.39 #       <midknight2k3> we need a better pitch screen
05.50.01 #       <sagegoku> thank you!
05.50.06 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.50.07 #       <midknight2k3> no problem
05.52.32 #       <midknight2k3> i dont see any quick solutions
05.52.36 #       <midknight2k3> let me try one thing
05.52.36 #       <midknight2k3> ok
05.52.38 #       <midknight2k3> just a sec
05.52.40 #       <sagegoku> k
05.53.01 #       <midknight2k3> not likely to work but it might
05.53.11 #       <sagegoku> yah
05.53.20 #       <midknight2k3> i'd have to look closer later
05.53.26 #       <sagegoku> k
05.54.03 #       <midknight2k3> oops
05.54.09 #       <midknight2k3> i just made a cursor trail
05.54.10 #       <midknight2k3> lol
05.54.34 #       <midknight2k3> dont work
05.54.36 #       <midknight2k3> sorry
05.55.24 #       <sagegoku> np
05.55.35 #       <midknight2k3> ill look at it tomorrow
05.55.42 #       <sagegoku> you guys need to make a hold option, too
05.55.49 #       <midknight2k3> there is one
05.55.56 #       <midknight2k3> at the WPS, hold F! and hit down
05.55.59 #       <midknight2k3> F1*
05.56.29 #       <sagegoku> any other cool WPS tricks?
05.56.34 #       <sagegoku> i know about f2 and f3 menus
05.56.37 #       <midknight2k3> F1 and PLAY is mute
05.56.54 #       <midknight2k3> F1 and ON is ID3 ifno
05.56.59 #       <midknight2k3> info*
05.57.48 #       <midknight2k3> i feel like making a shutdown screen
05.58.03 #       <midknight2k3> cause whenever i turn it off it goes WHIRr.
05.58.04 #       <sagegoku> that'd be coo
05.58.06 #       <midknight2k3> and grinds
05.58.13 #       <midknight2k3> its bad for the hard drive
05.58.18 #       <sagegoku> lol
05.58.18 #       <midknight2k3> but it happens often
05.58.23 #       <midknight2k3> or i have to wait a few seconds
05.58.27 #       <midknight2k3> rockbox is smart
05.58.36 #       <sagegoku> i find it helps to pause the song before shutdown
05.58.37 #       <midknight2k3> i like how it wont spin down if i am moving the cursor around
05.58.52 #       <midknight2k3> it's intelligent
05.58.57 #       <sagegoku> yah
05.59.13 #       <midknight2k3> archos would shut down the hard drive any time it wanted
05.59.24 #       <midknight2k3> i was clicking around directories and it just shut down
05.59.26 #       <midknight2k3> for no reason
05.59.37 #       <midknight2k3> i promptly reloaded rockbox
05.59.51 #       <sagegoku> any other f1 tricks?
06.00.01 #       <midknight2k3> not that i know of
06.00.06 #       <sagegoku> or f2 or f3
06.00.11 #       <sagegoku> how bout on file browsing?
06.00.24 #       <midknight2k3> ON and UP or DOWN is one page at a time
06.00.25 #       <sagegoku> i know that if you hold play+on you get a menu
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11.25.27 #       <webmind> morning
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11.32.34 #       <track> morning webmind
11.33.00 #       <track> if there was an exam in MP3s and MP3 players I would get an A :-)
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11.39.38 #       <track> hello galik
11.39.50 #       <Galik> gmornin track
11.40.01 #       <track> :D
11.40.07 #       <Galik> MY WAKEUP ALARM DOESN'T WORK :(
11.40.16 #       <Galik> sorry didn mean to shout
11.40.29 #       * Galik hit the caps lock by mistake
11.41.04 #       <track> lol
11.41.12 #       <webmind> track, how so ?
11.41.16 #       <track> i dunno why im so obsessed with MP3 devices
11.41.17 #       <track> :-)
11.41.34 #       <Galik> does your wake-up alarm work on your archos?
11.41.39 #       <track> im on my 3rd MP3 player
11.41.43 #       <track> dunno, never use it
11.41.57 #       * webmind only had one.. still have it.. archos player
11.41.59 #       <track> actually im on my 4th
11.42.06 #       <webmind> and people often are amazed by it
11.42.12 #       <webmind> some people even thought it was a bomb :)
11.42.26 #       <track> Ive had a Sonicblue RioVolt, then a Creative Labs Nomad, now I have the Archos and a Kenwood car MP3 device
11.42.58 #       <track> the Kenwood takes MP3s recorded on CD
11.43.52 #       <track> don't laugh but I went back to the Archos firmware once
11.45.17 #       <dwihno> AHAHAHAHAHAH!
11.46.47 #       <track> I feel the Archos firmware has a better recording interface than Rockbox
11.47.25 #       <webmind> i'd never buy a special car mp3 player i think
11.47.37 #       <webmind> if i ever own a car it would atleast have 1 computer build in
11.47.54 #       <track> yea but CD-RW disks are cheap and it safeguards your Archos from bouncing around in the car
11.48.12 #       <webmind> the archos quite take quite a bumb..
11.48.14 #       <webmind> i've tested
11.48.23 #       <webmind> in casing it has no problem with falling ca 50cm
11.50.09 #       <track> lol
11.50.24 #       <track> I keep the Archos firmware alongside Rockbox for playlist making and recording
11.50.48 #       <webmind> i never understood how to make a playlist in the original firmware
11.50.56 #       <webmind> btw u have the recorder i presume ?
11.51.01 #       <track> yes
11.51.04 #       <track> i don't like players
11.51.24 #       <track> id rather have a 10Gb recorder than a 20Gb player
11.51.48 #       * webmind has a 40gb player.. if i'd known the difference i'd probably bought a recorder aswell
11.52.21 #       <dsg> I like rockbox better in every aspect except for that charging doesn't work for me when it's flashed.
11.53.14 #       <dsg> Oh, and I don't know how to recursively add to playlist.
11.53.19 #       <track> lol
11.53.20 #       <webmind> there only one thing i dislike about rockbox.. it's queue function.. 
11.53.33 #       <track> why wots wrong wiv it?
11.53.47 #       <webmind> after u choose a different file.. it continues in the dir where the first file was started
11.54.10 #       <dsg> webmind: Yeah. Well, you can queue files... but you have to push too many buttons IMHO.
11.54.18 #       <dsg> Was thinking of messing with the key bindings actually.
11.54.40 #       <dsg> track: If it's flashed, it seems to measure the battery wrong.
11.54.51 #       <track> well my archos isnt flashed anyway
11.54.55 #       <dsg> So it thinks it's done flashing when it's really not.
11.55.13 #       <dsg> Well, archos firmware bootup is slow.
11.55.18 #       <dsg> Flashed rockbox is *fast* :)
11.55.24 #       <track> youhave to be mad to flash ur archos in the first place
11.55.30 #       <webmind> i'd like a function to play just 1 file
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11.55.42 #       <dsg> webmind: You can just queue a single track...
11.55.53 #       <dsg> But same prob... have to push many buttons.
11.55.56 #       <webmind> dsg, not in a simple way
11.56.01 #       <dsg> True.
11.56.29 #       <dsg> If I did mess with the keybindings, "play" would mean queue.
11.56.32 #       <dsg> At least on files.
11.56.42 #       <dsg> And I'd need a simple way to queue directories as well.
11.57.01 #       <track> well im sure if you ask Bjorn and co nicely :-)
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12.06.04 #       <dsg> Well... keybindings code can't be that bad. It's just a question of when I get around to setting up a Hitachi cross-compile chain.
12.06.19 #       <track> if you can flash the archos to boot rockbox why can't u flash it to play WMA or ATRAC3?
12.06.19 #       <dsg> Actually I need to do that anyway when I get my dreamcast (that has an SH-4).
12.06.38 #       <dsg> track: Because the MP3 decoding is not done by the processor.
12.06.47 #       <dsg> There's a seperate chip that handles it.
12.07.22 #       <track> oh
12.08.03 #       <track> ive just spilt tea on my mouse mat
12.08.54 #       <track> well i have an optical mouse so it doesn't really matter
12.14.51 #       <track> :D
12.14.57 #       <track> wheres midknight?
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12.30.09 #       <Hadaka> hum
12.30.41 #       <Hadaka> is there a feature to queue/playlist several different directories in current rockbox? what about separate patches?
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17.20.39 #       <Gx_Slim> anyone home? :)
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18.17.59 #       <bu88a1> help.. any ideas on why I am getting " undefined reference to `strstr'" when trying to link?
18.18.26 #       <bu88a1> I am using it in tree.c which includes <string.h>
18.19.16 #       <bu88a1> anyone here?
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20.34.18 #       <track> hekllo
20.34.19 #       <track> hello
20.39.39 #       <Plugh> morning track
20.40.07 #       <track> its evening here
20.40.17 #       <Plugh> Wed Oct  8 11:41:17 PDT 2003
20.40.48 #       <Plugh> actually a minute earlier. I just synched with NIST
20.40.50 #       <track> well its evening here in LONDON
20.41.21 #       <track> iok
20.41.21 #       <track> ok
20.41.37 #       <Plugh> if you're in the UK, why are you using AMERICA On-Line?
20.41.57 #       <track> :D
20.43.20 #       <track> im on AOL broadband
20.45.27 #       <Plugh> bloody hell
20.46.27 #       <Plugh> my county representative (state senator) is talking about quitting his elected post because he doesn't want to work with the new governor
20.49.29 #       <track> lol
20.50.05 #       <Plugh> last I checked, elected officials didn't get to choose their co-workers
20.50.14 #       <Plugh> it's the voters who choose
20.51.01 #       <track> ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
20.53.51 #       <track> Can the LCD on the Archos be replaced with a colour LCD from a digital camera?
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20.57.01 #       <lypanov> anyone know where blastman007 hangs out?
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21.21.46 #       <Plugh> track: I don't know if the display driver chip can handle color
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21.22.22 #       <Plugh> but you could probably use an external device with some custom code
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21.48.13 #       <track> A lot of PC adventure games are very linear
21.48.27 #       <track> simply going from start to finish with traps/puzzles thrown inbetween
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21.48.49 #       <track> hi badger
21.49.05 #       <Bagder> hey
21.49.10 #       <track> :)
21.49.12 #       <track> how are you
21.49.14 #       <track> long time no see
21.49.29 #       <Bagder> I've got myself a daughter
21.49.36 #       <track> congratulations :-)
21.49.40 #       <Bagder> thanks
21.49.50 #       <track> ur welcome
21.50.11 #       <track> btw I found how you change the ID3 tag scrolling from circular to linear
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21.52.31 #       <track> you go to scroll settings and alter bi-directional scrolling
21.52.49 #       <track> to make the scrolling linear (going back and forth) instead of circular
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