--- Log for 28.10.103 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16p1 Started: 2 days and 21 hours ago 00.07.06 # and happy with it :) 00.07.24 # I wish I could be nothing 00.07.33 # but still have my house, car, and paid bills 00.08.14 # my house, my wife, my horse, my yacht, my ... 00.08.14 # anyone using iTunes with their Archos? 00.08.46 # oh yeah. Wouldn't mind keeping my wife in the deal either. But I usually don't list her with my property 00.09.04 # :) 00.13.09 # ok. I'm probably going to regret this 00.13.17 # adding my archos to iTunes 00.13.54 # [IDC]Dragon: http://linus.haxx.se/recv2/internal_rom_0000-FFFF.bin 00.14.27 # [IDC]Dragon: http://linus.haxx.se/recv2/internal_rom_2000000-203FFFF.bin 00.14.36 # though I could probably eliminate any dupes between my work HD and my archos, considering I have all this backed up at home 00.14.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> That was quick, thanks! 00.14.48 # you're welcome 00.17.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> standard boot ROM, good. 00.19.37 # <[IDC]Dragon> the loader is different. 00.20.15 # n8 00.20.18 Quit Kamayaka () 00.25.20 # what boot rom is this for? 00.25.50 # Dogger: it's the boot rom for the new Recorder Version 2 00.26.02 # o ok, cool 00.26.29 # <[IDC]Dragon> It can probably be flashed like a standard FM, I can't see why not. 00.26.42 # [IDC]Dragon: i suspected that 00.26.52 # is that the one that won't load ajbrec.ajzs? 00.27.14 # scott666: wouldn't 00.27.18 # <[IDC]Dragon> Their 2nd level loader is different, but I wipe that anyway. 00.27.32 # scott666: it does now 00.27.39 # ahh, ok 00.28.01 # with a slight tweak in the scramble tool 00.28.55 # scott666: the really funny part is that it has the fm radio mounted 00.29.11 # so it's an fm recorder sold as a regular recorder 00.29.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> Does the FM accept that changes scramble format as well? 00.29.22 # [IDC]Dragon: haven't tried 00.29.29 # maybe i should 00.29.30 # how different is the scramble format? 00.29.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> Would be nice, else we need a new column just for that byte. 00.29.57 # Dogger: only one byte in the header differs 00.30.04 # ah ok 00.30.07 # oooh, right, that was the one that sold the FM tuner as a plug-in 00.30.15 # heh 00.30.19 # i guess that is the point of changing the header 00.30.28 # theres a guy on ebay that sells instructions of how to install rockbox 00.30.35 # so that you don't load the wrong firmware by mistake 00.30.38 # http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2761426137&category=166 00.30.41 # nothing major like the AVs and the gmini 00.30.54 # not at all 00.32.11 # MTt: that's hilarious 00.32.25 # people sell air on ebay 00.32.36 # people sell anything on there 00.32.51 # if there are people stupid enough to buy that stuff, good luck to the sellers 00.32.52 # thats not as bad as the xbox boxes 00.34.58 # im still trying to buy a replacement archos :/ 00.37.20 Join BoD[] [0] (~BoD@m33.net81-67-42.noos.fr) 00.37.23 # hedlloo! 00.37.32 # yo 00.37.51 # sava? 00.38.01 # ca va bien merci 00.38.12 # :) what's new ? 00.38.34 # not much, we discovered that the new V2 recorder is in fact an fm recorder 00.38.51 # with the radio disabled in the archos firmware 00.38.58 # !!! 00.39.11 # i wasn't aware that they were a v2 recorder 00.39.32 # but the fact that the radio is disabled is funny :) 00.40.12 # future v2 recorders will probably be without fm 00.40.16 # you know anywhere in the eu that stocks this contraptions? 00.40.29 # no idea 00.42.21 # MT: stock what? 00.42.37 # it's like the ipods that can record, but apple just didn't code it in the first firmwares 00.42.49 # these new style recorders 00.43.14 # lazy programmers 00.43.25 # unrealistic managers :) 00.43.28 # programmers are never good enough to fully exploit the cool hardware 00.43.31 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 00.43.31 # :) 00.43.44 # its not that they're lazy, its that they want to sell you a feature you should already have 00.43.55 # if programmers were still coding on 386's, they would probably code so well, they would be faster than modern cpus 00.44.02 # ok exageration, but you get my point 00.44.32 # scott666: like the new archos plugins 00.44.48 # where they charge you extra to enable the firmware to do things with the hardware you bought! 00.44.51 # thats such a con 00.44.55 # precisely 00.45.17 # if I buy hardware, I expect to be able to use it without having to pay money for rubbish software 00.45.26 # especially since i already own a normal FMR that's exactly the same thing 00.50.51 # the recorder v2 doesn't have the plugin crap 00.51.05 # you are confusing it with the gmini 01.00.11 # btw i found a job :) 01.01.06 # holidays are over :( 01.03.14 # poor you :-) 01.03.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.04.09 # ahaha :) 01.08.12 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 01.19.44 Join billytwowilly [0] (~chris@h24-66-18-138.ed.shawcable.net) 01.20.06 # can anyone tell me if the dell dj is supported under linux? 01.20.20 # I've been googling for the past couple minutes and I'm coming up dry. 01.20.50 # i have no idea 01.22.04 # I have a feeling that is going to be most people's response;) sweet looking and sounding mp3 player though. 01.24.05 # dell, the computer vendor, makes an mp3 player ? 01.25.52 # yah, looks like an ipod killer 01.25.57 # it comes out tommorrow 01.26.05 # nice:) do you have an url? 01.26.21 # someone got it to run for 22+ hours on a charge 01.26.49 # http://www.delldjsite.com/forums/index.php?s=&act=Tutorials&CODE=03&ID=10 01.27.27 # apparently the 15 gig model is 70 bucks less expensive than the 10 gig ipod and the 20 gig model is 100 bucks less expensive than the 20 gig ipod. 01.28.18 # nice upgrade for my archos 6 gig mp3 jukebox;) 01.28.25 # if it works with linux.. 01.29.22 Quit AciD` ("Reconnecting...") 01.30.28 # billytwowilly: since it's a USB 2.0 device usable as a 20gig external hard drive, I suspect it would work under Linux as well as the Archos 01.30.44 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 01.31.12 # yah, but apparently the mp3s don't show up unless it's transferred with the included software.. so there's probably some database somewhere in it that you have to muck with to get it to work. 01.32.31 # that'd be fucking lame 01.32.44 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 01.32.51 # I agree. 01.32.58 # everyone keeps talking up mmjb 01.33.04 # I think it's a POS 01.33.25 # I hope it's not like that because my archos 6 gig is on its last legs.. it keeps freezing when I walk with it. 01.33.35 # i like the idea of it, but i'm sure the firmware is equal to the rest of what archos puts out 01.33.54 # have you looked at replacing the drive? 01.34.16 # scott666: Archos made the Dell toy? 01.34.43 # oh, sorry i came late, all i heard was mmjb 01.34.57 # oh. music match jukebox 01.35.01 # Plugh: You think it's the hard drive? 01.35.09 # billy: probably 01.35.14 # ahhh, thought you meant multi-media 01.35.34 # http://www.delldjsite.com/forums/index.php?s=&act=Tutorials&CODE=03&ID=10 01.35.45 # heh. it is a fujitsu drive.. I have no idea how to do that, but I'll look into it. I suppose there's something on the website for rockbox right? 01.35.47 # looks like it might be database-driven 01.35.58 # billytwowilly: pricewatch.com 01.36.13 # and you can find info on replacing it on rockbox.haxx.se 01.36.33 # it's a lot cheaper than a new unit 01.36.41 # and you can upgrade your drive space 01.36.49 # yah, but I'd have to know how to solder right? 01.37.05 # no serious soldering 01.37.08 # no components 01.37.12 # just the shielding 01.37.25 # it can be sloppy 01.37.33 # heh. I'd have to buy a soldering gun;) 01.37.40 # or get my cousin to help me out. 01.37.43 # $5 01.38.06 # it doesn't die when it freezes though, it just stops playing music but the screen stays on. 01.38.31 # the only thing you might need would be a 2.5" to 3.5" IDE adapter 01.39.01 # that would be an RLD 01.39.09 # oh. because I'd have to plug the drives into my computer to muck about with the drive right? I think I remember reading tomshardware doing a drive upgrade a long long time ago. 01.39.17 # you need to format it 01.40.00 # yah. I think I can do that. 01.40.11 # takes a normal 2.5" laptop hard drive right? 01.40.12 Join Neurosupherot [0] (Neurosuphe@AStrasbourg-207-1-4-233.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 01.40.16 # yeah 01.40.24 # ok, thanks. I'll look into it. 01.40.27 # hello 01.40.33 # hi 01.40.48 # hey 01.42.16 # heh, I can get a 20 gig laptop hardrive for 150 bucks canadian.. this might be worthwhile afterall. with the rockbox firmware the thing actually works well. 01.42.16 # yo 01.42.56 # billytwowilly: make sure it is 9mm thick and not 12 01.45.16 # yeah that dell player definitely looks horrible 01.48.06 # im am very interressed by the rockbox os but iam a noob 01.48.29 # the source is a .gz 01.48.44 # with what can we open it? 01.49.13 # Neurosupherot: do you really want the source? 01.49.36 # i havnt my archos yet^^ 01.49.54 # but i read the rockbox site 01.50.03 # winzip can open .tar.gz archives 01.50.10 # ok 01.50.21 # what is the language? 01.50.23 # c++? 01.50.27 # C 01.50.34 # and 01.50.41 # assembler? 01.51.08 # at the boot, there is an picture ROCKBOX 01.51.13 # or was that and indicating youre going to ask another question? 01.51.14 # can we modify it? 01.51.19 # Neurosupherot: yes 01.51.24 # ok 01.51.26 # thx:) 01.51.32 # thats cool! 01.54.01 # whe must have cygwin to convert the .gz to .ajz? 01.54.04 # <[IDC]Dragon> Goodnight! 01.54.10 # (S) 01.54.14 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 01.57.14 # rockbox-2.0\uisimulator\x11\archos 01.57.20 # this is the logo at the boot? 01.58.38 # and, the source we can download is the source for the last version on rockbox? 02.04.40 # Neurosupherot: the source for the latest version is found under the "daily build" section 02.05.27 # ok:) 02.05.57 # i must go 02.06.04 # rockbox powaa! 02.06.10 Quit Neurosupherot () 02.07.11 # heh. I just sent a zinger to the mailing list ;) 02.08.03 Quit billytwowilly ("Client exiting") 02.13.48 # time to sleep, nite all 02.14.06 Part LinusN 02.26.27 Quit AciD` (Connection timed out) 02.43.05 Quit Dogger ("Client Exiting") 03.02.11 # hm, I'm actually starting to appreciate the concept of id3 tags, playlists, etc 03.02.26 # Hmm. My mmjb seems to time out and shut down as a USB drive - is this expected behavior? 03.02.42 # I've always sorted music by album under genre. Used directory structure 03.03.08 # GEM: the person you need to talk to just left 15 mins ago 03.03.16 # Plugh: Oh well 03.03.20 # the rest of us don't use the multimedia 03.03.33 # Plugh: how do the ID3 tags make your life easier? I don't know much about them yet 03.03.36 # this is an mp3 device discussion group 03.03.44 # WHo is it that uses the multimedia? 03.03.46 # I'm using iTunes 03.03.49 # Dogger 03.03.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.03.57 # he's cracked the encryption on it 03.04.13 # and is starting to work on a replacement firmware 03.04.14 # I did not know that there was encryption on it - I am new to it 03.04.21 # Ahh, got you 03.05.00 # I am aware that rockbox is not available for the MMJB, and I know about what the project is - I figured that a few mostly general Archos type questions are reasonable 03.05.08 # anyhow, with id3 tags you can organize music by genre, album, artist, or if you have the info, year of publication 03.05.12 # If I am wrong, please don't hesitate to tell me. 03.06.20 # we're a fairly diverse group with a broad range of knowledge. You can probably get your question answered here. But most of the devs are kinda frosty toward requests for multimedia info 03.06.50 # I have not been able to find a similar place for the multimedia, so I started here 03.07.18 # I actually wanted the device primarily for recording live music at science fiction conventions 03.07.20 # there's some forums out there. I don't remember the names. 03.07.43 # I got mine to record DJ sets off my and friends' mixer boards 03.07.48 # when investigating,was able to get the mmjb not much more expensively than a regular jukebox, so went for it 03.08.47 # I actually had a multimedia in my hand and opted for the mp3 03.08.57 # Why so? 03.08.59 # and I didn't know about rockbox at the time 03.09.08 # I thought I wanted FM 03.09.21 # turned out it sucks so bad that it's not worth it 03.09.21 # Ah. and you turned out not to? 03.09.54 # I get a lot of hum when I record from my mmjb with a mic attached - do you know if that happens on the jb? 03.10.10 # the mic picks up the vibration of the hard drive 03.10.41 # Hmm. Even if the cod is stretched about as far as I can away from the unit? That's not fair 03.10.53 # some people make mic to line level converters. And Archos sells an external mic that helps 03.12.14 # I was hoping to avoid buying their mic, but I will if I ned to 03.12.52 # I'd see about getting access to line out on the mixer board 03.13.03 # you'll get a nice signal out of that 03.13.53 # Some of that is feasible, but sometimes it is not - we often don't have a sound board where I am 03.14.31 # I understand. Check around the net for a converter from your mic output to a line level. 03.14.41 # it'll be cheaper than the Archos mic 03.15.23 # and if you want, you can get a good XLR mic with the pickup pattern you want 03.15.28 # or even a lavolier 03.15.29 # :) 03.19.14 # I've heard good things about the Archos mic, but I can imagine much better 03.22.10 # Cool - thanks! 03.22.54 # this is really time consuming. I've got 16 days of music on my archos 03.23.09 # and trying to get all my music properly tagged so it's better in iTunes 03.31.34 # What kind of tools do you use for tagging files? and where can I learn more about ID3 stuff? 03.32.41 # I'm using iTunes 03.32.45 # it's free and it rocks 03.33.59 # you can sort music by fields in column mode and tag blocks of files at a time 03.34.23 # the only thing it doesn't do is sort music by directory location on the drive, which would be perfect for me 03.35.00 # is iTunes Mac-only? 03.35.10 # not anymore 03.43.13 # OK. 04.29.51 Quit elinenbe (" Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-") 05.03.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.27.33 Quit scott666 ("i'll be back...eventually...") 06.17.00 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 06.39.31 Quit BoD[] ("fofofk") 07.03.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.27.24 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 07.50.53 Join Dogger [0] (~jimmy@adsl-67-116-5-194.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 07.50.56 # hey all 07.53.02 # hi 07.54.38 # Hello! :) 08.14.24 Join edx [0] (edx@pD9EAB21D.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.30.03 Quit hardeep ("[BX] Chester Cheeta uses BitchX. Ayeuhayueuhayueuh!") 08.31.02 Join k3no [0] (zmets@80.178.40.114.forward.012.net.il) 08.32.38 Part k3no 08.45.09 Quit Dogger ("Client Exiting") 08.59.30 Join Dogger [0] (~jimmy@adsl-67-116-5-194.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) 09.03.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.10.03 # dont archos' debug messages fill you with confidence 09.10.24 # '__ TIME WEIRD! __' 09.10.56 # __FIXME1__ 09.11.06 # Debug messages? 09.11.10 # yep 09.11.12 # You found evil stuff? :) 09.11.14 # looking at AV firmware 09.11.16 # The AVOS? 09.11.21 # yes 09.11.26 # How far have you come? 09.11.32 # almost finished unpacker 09.11.39 # packer is done 09.11.55 # well - a packer that works is done, a packer that compresses isn't done 09.15.35 # they put far 2 much debug code in 09.15.36 # check this 09.15.54 # 'modifying *(menu[pos].var) @ add 0x' 09.16.14 # Cool! 09.16.17 # You rule! 09.16.26 # thanks 09.16.31 # AVOS to the people! 09.16.33 # it's not trivial to crack encryption and compression 09.16.43 # Nah, it's a pain in the ***. 09.16.44 # but I am king of the hackers ;) 09.16.49 # tell me about it lol 09.17.02 # but they are not exactly good at writing secure code 09.17.50 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 09.17.56 # lol more debug messages 09.17.59 # __OOPS__ 09.18.40 # lolol 09.19.12 # WB, Linus! 09.20.06 # Dogger: How good is the performance of the AV? 09.20.15 # the hardware is excelent 09.20.20 # the firmware is crap 09.20.27 # In what way? 09.20.30 # Buggy? Slow? 09.20.33 # its ok, 09.20.37 # Crash tendency? 09.20.39 # its not really buggy, 09.20.45 # it's just the least possible 09.20.53 # it's nothing to go 'wow' about 09.20.56 # Ah 09.20.59 # the hardware is 'wow' 09.21.06 # the firmware is 'oh..' 09.21.09 # Fishy batteries? 09.21.21 # How many hours do you get from a single charge? 09.21.23 # battery life on my av340 is excellent 09.21.30 # 10+ hours playing mp3s 09.21.36 # 5+ hours playing movies 09.22.29 # What kind of batteries? 09.22.36 # proprietory 09.22.45 # pics on avos.sf.net/pictures.html 09.23.14 # ermmm interesting, the av firmware has 'TouchScreen' in it 09.23.27 # I heard somewhere they were thinking of making it touchscreen to start with, 09.24.06 # proprietory batts sucks! :( 09.24.14 # true, 09.24.23 # but I havent had any battery problems so far 09.24.32 # hahahahah 09.24.34 # classic 09.24.44 # debug message in av3xx firmware from archos: 09.24.48 # '__SHIT !!!' 09.24.55 # :-D 09.24.57 # Cool! 09.24.59 # I love looking at other peoples lamer code 09.25.13 # wow '--EEPROM buffer dump--' 09.26.14 # 'ARCHOS JUKEBOX Multimedia (c) 99-03 A.Kurpiers, V. Pantelic DEBUG UART_1 Oct 10 20 11:00:04 DSC25' 09.26.26 # I need a serial cable to do debug ;) 09.26.38 # How was it encrypted? 09.26.44 # lamer encryption 09.27.04 # but better than mp3 encryption (rockbox scramble) 09.27.35 # Vladimir Pantelic is a subscriber of the Rockbox mailing list 09.27.36 # I'll post everything once I'm finished the unpacker 09.27.41 # lol 09.27.47 # Linus: He is?! :O 09.27.48 # that explains his encryption key! 09.27.56 # VLADMIR1 was one of the keys 09.28.11 # tell him first rule of anything - don't use ur name as a key 09.28.13 # twat 09.28.14 # dwihno: since very long 09.28.17 # * dwihno senses lots of hacker enthusiasm 09.29.10 # bingo! 09.29.17 # '_SERIAL_LOAD_FAILED' 09.29.23 # thats how you do a forced update 09.29.26 # serial cable 09.31.00 # 'TouchScreen I2C ERROR' 09.31.09 # damn shame they didnt do touchscreen :( *sob* 09.32.17 # Linus: You knew who he was? 09.33.17 # he has been with us for a long time 09.33.27 # tell him his coding sucks 09.33.29 # you see his name everywhere 09.33.40 # in the mp3o for instance 09.34.10 # mp3o? 09.34.28 # C3PO's friend? 09.35.11 # anyone know what a JIS font is? 09.35.24 # jis? sounds japanese 09.35.29 # perhaps using 'uni2wchar' ? 09.35.54 # sure... was hoping it described the file format 09.36.28 # only the encoding 09.37.11 # this code is lame! 09.37.26 # found some more passwords in it in plain text 09.37.56 # Dogger: how was the image encrypted? 09.39.20 # dwihno: I will post all my findings along with a packer/unpacker when I'm done 09.39.25 # should be a couple of days now 09.39.32 # but the encryption was a lamer xor 09.39.42 # the compression is slightly more complex 09.39.49 # but am about half way thru cracking that 09.40.30 # have written a cool decryptor/encryptor.... it even works out the encryption key itself 09.40.43 # Dogger: cool! :) 09.41.04 # kindof helps when lamers use plaintext as an encryption key 09.41.56 # but then its easy for me to pick apart other peoples software 09.42.04 # I might not like people picking holes in mine :) 09.44.13 # You're a master locksmith! 09.44.22 # RockAVOS! ;D 09.44.25 # I kindof do this for a living :) 09.44.38 # You dp? 09.44.45 # What is your profession? 09.44.50 # am glad finaly avos will be able to do stuff now 09.45.08 # developing software for the purposes of interoperability with other software/protocols :) 09.45.12 # What kind of special hardware does the AVOS have? 09.45.25 # \o/ development \o/ 09.45.40 # tms320dsc25 does most stuff 09.45.50 # osd, pal/ntsc, memory card readers, 09.45.58 # divx encoding/decoding, 09.46.02 # jpg decoding 09.46.10 # Neato 09.46.13 # How fast is the decoding? 09.46.19 # then it has an ATA/ATAPI/USB2 bridge chip, 09.46.23 # 16meg ram, 09.46.43 # not sure how fast it is.... obviously it can play big movies at 30fps, 09.46.50 # Cool! :D 09.46.58 # Perfect for long road trips! :) 09.47.03 # yeah 09.47.08 # I got it for my flights 09.47.18 # I fly UK->california twice a month at the moment 09.47.27 # 10 hours is a long time to be bored :) 09.48.09 # Heh. True. 09.48.18 # Too bad the batteries are non-standard. I hate that :( 09.48.27 # yeah that is a bit of a pain 09.48.37 # and they say 'designed to last the life of your archos' 09.48.41 # errr yeah right 09.48.55 # I mean, whenever they want to, they'll just stop providing the batteries and your unit will become useless 09.48.57 # since when did batteries last that long 09.49.06 # true 09.49.17 # I better get my hands on some spares :) 09.50.25 # I've upgraded my batteries once for my recorder. 09.50.30 # I hate custom batteries. 09.59.44 # may be able to find out who makes the batteries, 09.59.56 # they may use same batteries for something else as well 09.59.58 # Still a noon. 10.00.00 # nono. 10.00.12 # ? 10.01.34 # Custom batteries will be the death of all cool gizmos. 10.01.53 # batteries suck 10.02.02 # as if they havent come up with something better 10.02.12 # they just dont tell us so we keep buying crap batteries 10.02.58 # indeed 10.03.45 # off2bed 10.03.48 # laters :) 10.04.14 # later. congrats, once again. 10.04.26 # thanks :) it's going well now... 10.04.28 Quit Dogger ("Client Exiting") 11.04.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.15.21 Quit [OFF]BtT (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.15.21 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.15.21 Quit Schnueff (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.15.21 Quit Plugh (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 11.15.42 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 11.15.42 NJoin [OFF]BtT [0] (~quasi@80.238.199.45) 11.15.42 NJoin Schnueff [0] (mah@d096.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de) 11.15.42 NJoin Plugh [0] (~plugh@adsl-68-122-77-189.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) 11.33.33 Quit edx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11.48.57 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 12.11.29 Join dsg [0] (~david@a194-109-195-187.adsl.xs4all.nl) 12.16.41 Join uski [0] (~moo@gandalf.digital-network.org) 12.50.06 Join eric [0] (~jirc@adsl-62-167-211-136.adslplus.ch) 12.50.59 Quit eric (Client Quit) 13.04.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.25.14 Join quelsaruk [0] (~swordmast@193.136.159.166) 13.25.24 # morning... 13.31.19 # seems like no-one's alive today 13.31.30 # i am 13.32.04 # :) 13.32.23 # LinusN, did you read my message yesterday? 13.33.36 # something about translations? 13.33.52 # yups :) 13.35.12 # i don't remember your question though... :-) 13.35.30 # hehe 13.37.26 # i just said that as i'm still without internet (nor even computer at home) i can't update languages patches, so if you don't mind..could you check that for me?? pleeeease :) 13.39.22 # you mean check if the spanish language file needs updating? 13.39.28 # nonononono 13.39.38 # the patches sent to the patch tracker 13.39.47 # and that are still open 13.40.01 # check if they work and include them into the code 13.40.17 # i'd do it, but without computer, is very difficult 13.41.29 # oh, i see 13.41.53 # ummm.. i must go, lunch time. See you another day!! 13.43.07 Quit quelsaruk () 14.01.49 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|away (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 14.39.24 Join k3no [0] (~hosted@80.178.44.111.forward.012.net.il) 14.46.05 Quit matsl ("Client Exiting") 14.48.54 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@as13-4-5.mal.s.bonet.se) 14.49.55 Quit matsl (Client Quit) 14.56.26 # slt 15.00.50 Join Neurosupherot [0] (Neurosuphe@AStrasbourg-207-1-4-27.w81-53.abo.wanadoo.fr) 15.04.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.09.39 Join paulheu [0] (paulheu@node1e8d8.a2000.nl) 15.09.47 Quit paulheu (Client Quit) 15.09.54 Join paulheu [0] (paulheu@node1e8d8.a2000.nl) 15.09.56 Quit paulheu (Client Quit) 15.11.50 Part LinusN|away 15.13.29 Join LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 15.28.43 Quit Neurosupherot (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15.57.37 # btw... anyone know who committed the Icelandic translation? 16.12.11 # lemme look 16.12.50 # islenska? 16.13.17 # revision 1.1 16.13.18 # date: 2003/09/14 11:43:50; author: bagder; state: Exp; 16.13.18 # Richard OBrien's initial Icelandic lang file 16.30.55 # Hmh... k. 16.31.17 # * dsg thinking of updating it... 16.35.46 Quit adi|home (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 NSplit zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 16.35.46 Quit uski (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 Quit webmind (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 Quit k3no (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 Quit BoBB (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 Quit Hadaka (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 Quit Hes (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 Quit dwihno (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 Quit ze (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 Quit dsg (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 Quit AciD` (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 Quit LinusN (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.35.46 Quit MT (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 16.36.02 NHeal zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net 16.36.02 NJoin LinusN [200] (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 16.36.02 NJoin k3no [0] (~hosted@80.178.44.111.forward.012.net.il) 16.36.02 NJoin uski [0] (~moo@gandalf.digital-network.org) 16.36.02 NJoin dsg [0] (~david@a194-109-195-187.adsl.xs4all.nl) 16.36.02 NJoin AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 16.36.02 NJoin adi|home [0] (~adi|home@as5300-9.216-194-23-142.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) 16.36.02 NJoin dwihno [0] (dwihno@81.172.195.115) 16.36.02 NJoin MT [0] (mt@194.154.163.134) 16.36.02 NJoin BoBB [0] (~bob@ip68-106-225-254.ph.ph.cox.net) 16.36.02 NJoin Hadaka [0] (naked@aka.pp.htv.fi) 16.36.02 NJoin Hes [0] (~hessu@hessu.zedi.sonera.fi) 16.36.02 NJoin ze [20] (psyco@adsl-63-205-42-70.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) 16.36.02 NJoin webmind [0] (~cme2@217.195.236.172) 17.03.10 Join Jan [0] (~jirc@pD9E3D598.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.03.33 # hi 17.03.50 # hello 17.04.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.04.51 # got a question 4 ya 17.04.58 # so ask it 17.05.16 # we're not formal. You don't need to ask permission to ask a question 17.05.19 # i don't know if i can flash my recorder 17.05.31 # but i liked to ;) 17.05.50 # how do i know it's flashable? 17.06.15 # the documentation is too confusing 17.06.25 # look under the debug menu. I think there's a pair of double bytes that identify the flash rom 17.06.34 # if there's numbers there, it can be flashed 17.06.41 # if it's ?? ??, it can't 17.07.13 # it says "flash: M=?? D=??" and "ROM CRC: 0x222F v1" 17.07.41 # so it can't? 17.07.43 # Jan: No. 17.08.14 # sorry. That one can't be flashed 17.08.40 # damn 17.09.06 # Dragon has been doing a lot of work on flash, but hasn't gotten that far yet 17.09.17 # you'll need to replace the chip I think 17.09.38 # dragon wrote something to the mailing list, that made me think it probably could be flashable... 17.09.42 # very geeky and techie, and not very easy even if you are 17.10.32 # yeah he responded to you on the list 17.10.41 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 17.10.41 # Since you don't have the proper chip, you can't flash it, regardless what 17.10.42 # software comes along. You would have to exchange it. 17.10.42 # The boot ROM is diagnosed with the ROM CRC line in the same screen. I have 17.10.42 DBUG Enqueued KICK Plugh 17.10.42 # to update it to say "no ROM" instead of V2 when ROM space is identical to 17.10.42 # flash space, that was my error. The only known boot ROM has CRC 0x222F. 17.11.08 # i couldn't even open my recorder, because i'm lacking the right tool ;) 17.11.22 # so what is a "boot ROM"? 17.11.40 # bootstrap code for the CPU 17.12.21 # loads the barest essentials to start the process of loading the flash or firmware off the drive 17.13.51 # so I don't know why he mentioned this thing... 17.14.10 # looked like you mentioned it 17.14.31 # oh I'm mistaken 17.14.34 # you didn't 17.14.56 # you mentioned ROM 17.15.08 # I guess he took that into account in his answer 17.15.59 # ok, thx 17.17.49 # bye then 17.17.54 # unsubscribe 17.17.56 # *lol* 17.18.02 Quit Jan ("Leaving") 17.37.00 Quit dsg ("foo-d") 18.26.27 Quit AciD` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18.35.09 Join maff [0] (~jirc@cpc2-heck1-4-0-cust202.hudd.cable.ntl.com) 18.39.56 # lo 18.47.44 Quit maff ("Leaving") 18.50.23 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~idc-drago@pD9FF8281.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.50.47 Quit k3no (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18.51.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hi! 18.51.19 # <[IDC]Dragon> uski, do you read? 18.52.45 # <[IDC]Dragon> (seems not) 18.58.59 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@207-237-236-36.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 18.59.25 # [IDC]Dragon: hey there, I just wanted to say great work on the flashing stuff. 18.59.31 # Hospital 18.59.31 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.31 # Frankford 18.59.31 DBUG Enqueued KICK elinenbe 18.59.31 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.32 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.33 *** Alert Mode level 1 18.59.33 *** Alert Mode level 2 18.59.33 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.34 *** Alert Mode level 3 18.59.34 *** Alert Mode level 4 18.59.34 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.36 *** Alert Mode level 5 18.59.36 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.38 *** Alert Mode level 6 18.59.38 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.40 *** Alert Mode level 7 18.59.40 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.42 *** Alert Mode level 8 18.59.42 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.44 # Christiana 18.59.46 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.48 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.50 # Rothman Institute (TJUH) 18.59.52 # Rothman Institute (TJUH) 18.59.54 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.56 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 18.59.58 # Rothman Institute (TJUH) 19.00.00 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 19.00.02 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 19.00.04 # Rothman Institute (TJUH) 19.00.06 # St. Joseph's (Reading) 19.00.08 # Rothman Institute (TJUH) 19.00.10 # Mass Gen - Boston 19.00.12 # Rothman Institute (TJUH) 19.00.14 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 19.00.16 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 19.00.18 # TJUH 19.00.20 # Episcopal 19.00.22 # Virtua Mem Hosp of Burlington Co 19.00.24 # Underwood Memorial Hospital 19.00.26 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 19.00.28 # Centre Community 19.00.30 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 19.00.32 # Geisinger 19.00.34 # Hahnemann 19.00.36 # Temple/Lower Bucks Hosp 19.00.38 # St. Joseph's (Reading) 19.00.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> elinenbe: Thank you. (and you can stop flooding ;-) 19.00.40 # HUP 19.00.42 # Temple 19.00.44 # HUP 19.00.46 # Rothman Institute (PA Hosp) 19.00.48 # Trenton Mercer 19.00.50 # Mass Gen - Boston 19.00.51 Quit elinenbe (Excess Flood) 19.01.26 Join elinenbe [0] (trilluser@207-237-236-36.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 19.01.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> Ctrl-C ? 19.02.12 Join JunkeyWRK [0] (~junkey@208.209.215.224) 19.02.43 # [IDC]Dragon: yeah.... 19.03.03 # <[IDC]Dragon> Once I posted a cooking recipe here by having the wrong stuff in clipboard. 19.03.17 # [IDC]Dragon: it is impressive that you put in a lot of time on something that did not affect you at all... that's nice. 19.03.46 # <[IDC]Dragon> Tell that to my girlfriend... 19.04.09 # [IDC]Dragon: what I was wondering was could you make it so, you could flash an ajz directly from the archos? so, the plug-in would do the work of compress, etc? 19.04.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.04.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> Theoretically yes, but it needs time and space to compress. 19.05.24 # <[IDC]Dragon> UCL is pretty established now. 19.07.01 # that's true. 19.07.21 # <[IDC]Dragon> Plus, you can "play" it. For .ajz, rolo kicks in. 19.07.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> ucl may even save some bandwidth on the haxx server. 19.08.10 # hello all. quick question, has anyone reported the archos turning on by itself with the rockbox software installed? i've caught it turning on by itself a few times and frequently find the player out of juice (probably because it turned itself on and never shut off). the last build i got is probably a few weeks old. i've checked the wakeup alarm but it doesnt seem to be set, unless im not reading it right. any ideas? 19.08.41 # <[IDC]Dragon> Sounds like a hardware problem. 19.08.52 # hrm 19.08.57 # <[IDC]Dragon> Software can't turn it on, afaik. 19.09.14 # really? what does the wakeup alarm do then? 19.09.24 # hrmm 19.09.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> One guy made a mod to change this, so the RTC can wake it up. 19.09.43 *** Alert Mode OFF 19.10.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> Is the wakeup in the normal build? 19.10.36 # dunno, this is a daily build 19.10.49 # a few weeks old, tho 19.11.25 # <[IDC]Dragon> do you have an FM? 19.11.40 # there should be no wakeup alarm in the daily build -- at least not for the player or recorder. 19.11.46 # yes, fm 19.11.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> Ah. 19.11.57 # sorry, shouldve said that 19.12.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> So it seems FMs can do the trick. Didn't know that. 19.13.23 # trick? you mean turning itself on? 19.13.30 # hmm...lemme test it 19.13.36 Nick [IDC]Dragon is now known as [IDC]Dragon|away (~idc-drago@pD9FF8281.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.13.48 # <[IDC]Dragon|away> afk, sorry. 19.19.42 # JunkeyWRK: yes, the Fm model has a wake-up alarm function 19.20.20 # is it functioning or is there a bug? 19.21.09 # i was just trying a test...i was playing something, then i set the wake up time to a few minutes from the time i started playing. it started to shut itself down but just froze there 19.22.14 # is it connected to the charger? 19.23.14 # yes, i just disconnected it and it shut off 19.23.30 # btw, don't mix up the sleep timer and the wake-up alarm 19.23.38 # right 19.23.43 # now i set the wake up time to a few minutes from now 19.23.59 # i think you have to stop playing music to set the wake up time and have it shut down properly 19.24.29 # i don't think so, 19.24.53 # well...im just telling you what happened based on the test i just did. i can try it again later 19.25.05 # something tells me if there's a valid time in that parameter it's going to wake up and start playing 19.25.16 # but there's no off parameter for that function 19.25.41 # unless 00:00 is the off time, but that's valid really, midnight 19.29.52 Quit hardeep ("[BX] For a good time, call 1-900-4BitchX") 19.32.09 Nick LinusN is now known as LinusN|brb (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 19.44.12 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 19.49.05 # what is "Car adapter mode" 19.55.36 # JunkeyWRK: that is a setting that will make the jukebox turn on if it receives a charge. 19.55.36 # so, if you have it plugged into your car it turns on and off with the car! 19.55.43 # that way you can have a jukebox just for your car 19.57.26 # ah, that's cool :) 20.17.19 Join hardeep [0] (1098@208.247.65.237) 20.17.27 Quit AciD` (Connection timed out) 20.23.53 # hardeep: any news from the playlist viewing world? 20.26.13 # elinenbe: i just got back from vacation, haven't touched anything rockbox related in a while 20.27.52 # [IDC]Dragon|away: yes, i read 20.35.56 # if you want to know why i cazn't flash, it is because i have a stupid SST37 chip... 20.36.04 # not because i don't have a boot rom 20.36.08 # (unfortunately...) 20.47.32 Join track [0] (jirc@ACBE148A.ipt.aol.com) 20.48.39 # hello 20.48.50 # hi 20.48.52 # I have an idea for the Rockbox website 20.49.07 # which is ? 20.49.21 # How about a way you can trade custom sound configs or custom WPS's? 20.49.31 # Ive made new 3 sound configs on my Archos 20.49.49 # hmm 20.49.53 # interesting 20.50.10 # My 3 sound presets are Flat, Techno and Auditoriu, 20.50.14 # Auditorium 20.54.08 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 21.00.23 Join Kamayaka [0] (Kamayaka@pD9EBEE4C.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.00.29 # morning 21.04.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.09.53 Nick [IDC]Dragon|away is now known as [IDC]Dragon (~idc-drago@pD9FF8281.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.10.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> uski, I'd like to refer you to Kamayaka. 21.10.56 # yes 21.11.30 # <[IDC]Dragon> He's the future source of flash chip! ;-) 21.12.12 # oooo :) 21.12.17 # interesting ;) 21.12.39 # <[IDC]Dragon> and he's lot listenung right now... 21.12.42 # <[IDC]Dragon> not 21.12.48 # <[IDC]Dragon> listening 21.13.00 # yea 21.13.26 # well, just tried to get worms working on my xp, giving up :) listening now 21.13.38 # <[IDC]Dragon> Kamayaka, your posting about the chips hasn't made it to the group, right? 21.13.43 # did anybody get my mail to the mailinglist ? 21.13.51 # well, seems not :\ 21.14.05 # did you post on the unsubscribe thread? 21.14.12 # nope 21.14.24 # ok, then there's a chance... 21.14.49 # someday i posted something on the mailling list and it never appeared 21.15.07 # <[IDC]Dragon> It always has worked for me. 21.15.17 # i don't doubt of it :) 21.15.30 # usik, if you need such a chip just drop me a mail to rockbox@riewel.de if there are enough ppl i´m going to order the 30 peaces 21.15.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> Sorry, I have to leave again for a while, please help Kamayaka posting. 21.15.46 # usik -ik +ki = uski (sorry for that) 21.16.14 # ;) 21.16.25 # Kamayaka: what would be the price ? 21.16.32 Nick [IDC]Dragon is now known as [IDC]Dragon|away (~idc-drago@pD9FF8281.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.16.36 # also, is there a way to get 8mb DRAM ? 21.16.37 # 2038003EUR :) 21.16.40 # lol ;) 21.16.59 # I think I'll buy a new one 21.17.01 # ;) 21.17.01 # i asked for the flash, the 8mb dram i´ve bought at bimex half a year ago 21.17.12 # bimex = ? 21.17.19 # another shop that sells it for 50$ ? 21.17.47 # www.strixner-holzinger.de offered me 30 SST39VF020-90 for 3.25 + tax (germany 16%) no shipping i can go there 21.17.50 # (knowing the usual price of such chips i can't buy one at this price...) 21.18.00 # hmmm 21.18.03 # EUR 21.18.07 # what about SST39VF040 ? 21.18.13 # no idea didn´t ask 21.18.18 # if we're going to change the chip, why not putting a bigger one 21.18.24 # as the pcb is prepared for it 21.18.39 # ([IDC]Dragon|away will confirm) 21.18.45 # don´t think it will get cheaper, but i can ask i´ve there enough ppl 21.19.26 # a SST39VF040 will be some more expensive but it is interesting 21.20.18 # dunno if rockbox will get larger than 2mb :) only 0.5% of the rockbox users will have the 4mb then.. whom is going to develop features only working on that few rockboxes ? 21.20.37 # it canb e itneresting for devel 21.20.46 # hrhr :) 21.20.50 # also, we might store plugins for example in the flash 21.20.52 # and so on 21.21.02 # if im going to change, i think i would try to get the 040 chip 21.21.17 # (yea i know, i always want more than others lol) 21.21.24 # you should ask them for this chip 21.21.46 # if there are enough ppl, we have 3 ppl in need of 4 chips or do you want more than 1 ? :) 21.22.07 # hmmm if it is the 040 chip, ye 21.22.09 # s 21.22.16 # if it is the 020, perhaps 2 but not more 21.22.40 # okay, just drop me a mail and i´ll note down your adress 21.22.47 # but let's wait for [IDC]Dragon|away, just to be sure the PCB is prepared.. 21.25.14 # if i write to the e-mail list... i need to write with the e-mail adress i subscribed to the list ? 21.25.23 # yes 21.25.29 # (i think) 21.25.48 # going to check this (no idea what has happend yesterday) 21.25.58 # Note: The list is only open for subscribers. You can not send mail to this list without being subscribed to it! 21.26.02 # :) 21.28.07 # well i think i need to get rid of 100 different e-mail accounts, but don´t want to use my main e-mailadress for such a mailing list... 21.28.21 # heh yea i also have this problem 21.28.35 # i open one email addr for everything 21.28.40 # so now i have 1000 aliases 21.28.54 # now i created a "general", a "trash bin" alias that i use everywhere 21.34.12 # anybody in here who can build me a 8mb release mine is round about 3 month old... 21.34.29 # grab it from the daily builds 21.35.08 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/daily.shtml 21.36.16 Join yeft [0] (nospin@AC8E26A8.ipt.aol.com) 21.36.22 # yooo 21.36.25 # is there an 8mb version or does the rockbox itself determines the amount of mem ? 21.36.26 # what up 21.36.31 # hmmm 21.36.33 # anyone in here speak russian???? 21.36.36 # take the 8mb version 21.36.59 # but if i remember this feature is int the TODO list... 21.37.42 # well... 21.37.43 # 2003-10-27 18:20:00 1 5 1 5 5 1 1 5 5 21.37.50 # yellow are warnings ? 21.38.29 # yea 21.38.30 # for you: 21.38.32 # drivers/fat.c:1277: warning: `rc' might be used uninitialized in this function 21.38.58 # well i would love to get these kind of warnings at work :) 21.41.27 # lol 21.43.37 Join scott666 [0] (scott666@c-24-245-58-245.mn.client2.attbi.com) 21.43.53 Quit yeft ("|| ¥ n e m e s i s ¥ || v2.0 - by d0n - http://page.by/donquijote ||") 21.46.09 # i got your mail uski... 21.47.50 # ok ;) 21.47.58 # Kamayaka: see ur private messages windows please 21.48.35 Quit AciD` (Connection timed out) 21.50.42 Nick [IDC]Dragon|away is now known as [IDC]Dragon (~idc-drago@pD9FF8281.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.54.33 # <[IDC]Dragon> About the 040 chip: I don't know if all PCBs are prepared for it, mine was. 21.55.01 # <[IDC]Dragon> If not, it would be just 1 wire to the CPU. 21.55.05 # hmmm 21.55.07 # ok 21.55.11 # of 21.55.15 # it will be 100% compatible ? 21.55.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> But I still don't know what to do with the rest of it. 21.55.29 # i mean, if you put a 040 on a pcb for a 020 21.55.54 # plenty of things ! you can put multiple firmwares, put the rocks on it, ... 21.56.05 # <[IDC]Dragon> It is "compatible", because the footprint is the same and my tools are made for it, since I have that chip. 21.56.08 # you might even consider storing some mp3 data to use the archos as a dictaphone 21.56.22 # ok then a 040 is good 21.56.44 # uski, you could solder two 020 :) 21.56.50 # <[IDC]Dragon> Maybe a mp3 menu guidance would be nice, for blind people or car usage. 21.57.09 # rofl 21.57.17 # yea exactly 21.57.18 # next stop play button 21.57.24 # so the hdd does not have to start when you browse it 21.57.33 # you will always find an use for more space... 21.57.44 # and it would be very bad to have an occasion to put a 040 and to lose it 21.57.54 # as it is 100% compatible, ... 21.58.06 # <[IDC]Dragon> I did it because it was the same effort. 21.58.53 # <[IDC]Dragon> But I doubt there will be a practical use since it's so incompatible to the rest of the world. 21.59.23 # <[IDC]Dragon> I'm able to hold the 2 images uncompressed. 21.59.44 # yea 21.59.55 # <[IDC]Dragon> But this is also no benefit, starts earlier to wait longer for the HD. 22.00.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> andwe're talking about 0.3 seconds or so here. 22.00.28 # :) 22.01.01 # okay, the mail is out 22.01.14 # drop me a line if it´s in your mailbox... 22.02.07 # i think Kamayaka should really ask for 040 chips 22.02.14 # now, he does what he wants to do... 22.02.28 # my FMR is dying :-( 22.02.32 # why ? 22.02.35 # whats the prob with it ? 22.02.41 # suckage 22.02.47 # if mine died I'd mourn it 22.02.59 # F2 and F3 are broken, and you have to mess with the headphone jack to get both channels 22.03.06 # ooo it is easy to change ! 22.03.10 # not a problem :! 22.03.16 # uski, i will ask for the 040 but only if i get at least 15 ppl in need of any flash chip 22.03.18 # my headphone jack is starting to crackle a bit 22.03.23 # btw i am about to get some replacment buttons in high quantity 22.03.39 # how are you pulling that off? 22.03.40 # it's only a problem when I've got it strapped to my belt while biking 22.03.41 # i will probably be able to "sell" some news buttons 22.03.56 # a "news" button ? :) 22.03.59 Quit track ("Leaving") 22.04.04 # oops 22.04.07 # aren't they like glued on? 22.04.10 # "some new buttons" 22.04.13 Ctcp Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 48 minutes at the last flood 22.04.13 # * Kamayaka slaps uski around a bit with a large trout 22.04.15 # * Kamayaka hides 22.04.28 # * uski finds Kamayaka, takes out his gun and fires. 22.04.31 # its so easy to tell the mIRC uses 22.04.31 # * uski BANG BANG 22.04.37 # scott666: yea ;) 22.04.46 # *users 22.05.25 # * Kamayaka blood splatters all over the desk including the charging rockbox 22.05.59 # * uski goes away, trying not to get blood on his clothes 22.06.30 # dna will get you 22.06.55 # and whom will buy the VF020 chips now ? 22.07.14 # try to replace them with 040 22.07.21 # as it is fully compatible ! 22.07.27 # jupp 22.07.27 # the price should not change a lot 22.08.27 # anybody got my mail ? 22.08.36 # wait some minutes ;) 22.11.35 # not yet Kam 22.12.46 # seems as if i´m too stupid to write to this mailing list... 22.13.06 # the mailing list has terrible lag 22.13.08 Part JunkeyWRK 22.13.11 # as long as the subject wasnt 'unsubscribe' 22.13.15 # check the web archive to see if it went out 22.14.46 # nope :( 22.14.55 # can anybody write to the list in my name ? 22.16.22 # <[IDC]Dragon> I could, but would prefer if you can sort it out. 22.17.07 # dropped the mail to 'rockbox@cool.haxx.se' from the subscripted e-mail account but nothin happens... (not even an error answer ...) 22.17.28 # <[IDC]Dragon> There will be no answer. 22.18.07 # going to try it with express newsreader 22.18.36 # if it's not in the online archive then it never made it 22.18.40 # <[IDC]Dragon> Are you shure you properly subscribed with that mail account? 22.18.58 # <[IDC]Dragon> If so, it should receive ~50 emails per day. 22.19.03 # send a message with 'help' in the body to majordomo@cool.haxx.se 22.19.04 # -- 22.19.04 # >>>> subscribe rockbox 22.19.04 # Succeeded. 22.19.04 DBUG Enqueued KICK Kamayaka 22.19.04 # >>>> 22.19.04 # >>>> 22.19.11 # okay 22.19.13 # that's good 22.20.56 # <[IDC]Dragon> The drawback of th group is that you can't post without subscribing, and you can't be subscribed without gettingthe full stream of posts emailed. 22.21.16 # <[IDC]Dragon> That's why I used my spam account. 22.21.35 # i get huge amounts of email... 22.21.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> Which I now have to use a lot, to answer and post. 22.21.54 # <[IDC]Dragon> This is why I'm [IDC]Dragon here. 22.22.11 # <[IDC]Dragon> Not Jörg Hohesohn. 22.22.30 # jööarg 22.22.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hohensohn, too stupid to type his own name. 22.22.55 # mail is there 22.25.13 # <[IDC]Dragon> Hooray! 22.26.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> If you organize a soldering service, there will be many takers, I guess. 22.26.57 Quit Kamayaka (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22.28.01 Join track [0] (jirc@ACBA51D8.ipt.aol.com) 22.28.15 Quit track (Client Quit) 22.28.44 Join Kamayaka [0] (Kamayaka@pD9EBEE4C.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.28.54 # crap game :( 22.29.01 # re 22.35.26 # <[IDC]Dragon> OK, time to say goodnight. 22.35.33 # n8 22.35.44 # <[IDC]Dragon> Kamayaka, thanks for your effort with th chips! 22.36.10 # <[IDC]Dragon> You must be almost as desperate to flash as I was. 22.36.46 # jupp :) 22.37.07 # but the main reason is i´m a soldering iron fetischist... 22.37.16 # *g* 22.37.31 # <[IDC]Dragon> OK, I'll check the log later. 22.37.38 Quit [IDC]Dragon () 22.38.48 # i´m leaving as well duo to extrem headage... 22.39.37 Quit Kamayaka () 22.39.49 Join maff [0] (~jirc@cpc2-heck1-4-0-cust202.hudd.cable.ntl.com) 22.40.43 # lo all 22.43.57 # hey 22.44.18 # help: my JBR20 wont charge at all. THe charging screen appears, but the JBR just sits drainging the batteries 22.44.38 # flashed? 22.44.59 # oh, you might have the deep discharge option on 22.45.43 # erm, its just got a new install of rockbox on (just unzipped to the drive), and thats it....so default settings 22.46.14 # i suggest looking through the faqs on the rockbox page 22.46.59 # hmm ive done that quite extensively, and cant find anyone with the same problem. 22.47.17 # maff did you wait after plugging in the charger ? 22.47.25 # some times it takes some time to start charging 22.47.36 # sorry, wait for what? i plugged it in, and pressed on 22.48.34 # wait some minutes 22.48.38 # like 5-10mn 22.49.02 # sorry, i should plug the charger in and then not press anything? 22.52.11 # . 22.53.19 # yea 22.53.46 # hmm whats the reasoning behind that? Is there a seperate Rockbox charging screen? 22.53.59 # yes 22.54.37 # hmm OK. Ill give it a try, but its been plugged in 5 minutes and hasnt done anything. Is there any way to initiate the rockbox charging screen manually? 22.54.44 # only when you plugin the charger when the archos is OFF 22.54.46 # nope 22.54.55 # :( 22.55.10 # Plugh: the screen does not show when I plug the charger and my archos is already powered on 22.55.35 # I dunno much about charging probs. I just know there's a charging screen 22.55.55 # 22.56.12 # it is not a problem 22.56.26 # maff: turn on your archos, withtout the charger plugged in 22.56.31 # then, plug in the charger 22.56.38 # does a small plug appear next to the battery icon ? 22.57.18 # yes i think so (although my batteries are too flat to double check) 22.57.26 # hmm 22.57.35 # but yes it does 22.57.37 # ok 22.57.42 # so ur charger is not dead 22.57.47 # so, when you plug in the charger 22.57.49 # yup 22.57.50 # what does the archos do ? 22.58.33 # if i plug the charger in, and press on, i get the ARCHOS Jukebox charging screen......Then after a few mintues, this will disappear as the batteries run out (i guess) 22.58.50 # hmmm 22.58.55 # did you try with another battery set ? 22.59.15 # these are new 2300 NiMH's 22.59.30 # is rockbox configured to use 2300mAh batteries ? 22.59.36 # i think the charging mode is different 22.59.44 # higher capacity batteries requires a higher charging current 22.59.45 # yup 22.59.52 # ok.. 22.59.58 # eally strange ! 23.00.10 # do you have something to test the voltage accross the batteries when unplugged ? 23.00.19 # should be no less than 1.0V 23.00.29 # a discharged battery is 1.0V, a fully charged is 1.2V 23.01.02 # uski: no. the battery mah is only used in calculating the time remaining 23.01.13 # scott666: ok. 23.01.18 # If i take the batteries out, and charge them in a wall charger, they power the JBR fine for a couple of days, then they conk ok 23.01.32 # ok 23.01.33 # strange ! 23.01.45 # this seems to indicate some error with the charging circuit to me? 23.02.21 # yea 23.02.28 # but try with other batteries to be sure 23.02.38 # the batteries are fine, for sure 23.02.41 # if it does not work with other batteries, you should use ur warranty 23.02.45 # yes but, juste to be sure... 23.02.57 # after all, the circuit of ur wall charger is different than the one in the archos 23.03.13 # i dont have a warranty - it was an eBay purchase 23.03.18 # (i know, it SHOULD work, but it is better to be sure there is a problem in the archos) 23.03.19 # lol 23.03.21 # ... 23.03.55 # This is rendering my JBR utterly useless :( 23.04.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.05.11 # that's why i NEVER buy this kind of products from ebay 23.05.18 # ok, it is cheaper, but if i can't use them.. 23.05.26 # anyway, do you have some electronic skills ? 23.05.41 # a little yes 23.08.55 # so you could open ur archos and try to see if there is not something burnt 23.09.32 # i would, but im not sure what to use to undo the screws on the side! They look like weird alan keys 23.09.58 # ach! i really should read the site more 23.10.13 # Torx screws....right ill try unscrewing and see what i can see 23.10.19 # yea 23.10.20 # torx 23.10.22 # probably T9 23.10.24 # wait i check 23.10.57 # yea, it is T9 23.11.05 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 23.11.05 # * uski is proud of having guessed it 23.11.07 # ;) 23.11.37 # :) 23.11.52 # cheers for the help.I dont know exactly what ill spot, but it cant hurt to look 23.12.21 # yea 23.12.32 # don't be violent and you wont break anything 23.12.39 # :) 23.12.47 # this kind of problem can be easy to solve, as it can be a real nightmare 23.12.50 # there is a part of luck here... 23.13.01 # also check that your charger is giving enough "energy" 23.13.03 # :) i hope its on my side 23.13.12 # = a good voltage, when you take power from it 23.13.27 # the voltage might be good when run "empty", but if you put a charge it might drop to some volts 23.14.01 # how do i find that? its a radioshack type affair, switchable voltage (3-12 volts), 1200Ma Max, switchable polarity 23.26.40 # aaaah ! 23.26.45 # it is not the original charger ? 23.27.05 # what voltage do you use when you plug in to your archos ? 23.27.37 # erm 9V? 23.27.54 # 9v should be ok 23.28.01 Nick LinusN|brb is now known as LinusN (~linus@labb.contactor.se) 23.29.46 # you could try 12 if you want 23.30.03 # if you dare :-) 23.30.21 # i have done in the past, and it madew no difference 23.31.09 # you recorder might be damaged 23.31.26 # LinusN: how is the pre-buffered recording coming? 23.31.37 # elinenbe: haven't worked on it for a while 23.32.08 # LinusN: it seems development on Rockbox has slowed significantly from a few months ago... 23.32.17 # true 23.32.31 # bagder, zagor and me have been very busy 23.32.37 Join AciD` [0] (~acid@longchamp44-1-82-67-133-87.fbx.proxad.net) 23.32.53 # i'm still very busy... :-) 23.56.40 Join track [0] (jirc@ACBD7599.ipt.aol.com) 23.57.07 # hellos 23.57.47 # also 23.57.48 # erm 23.57.55 # there are no more a lot of things to do 23.58.02 # i know it is not good to say this but... 23.58.14 # hi linusN