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00.59.20 #       <Kontakt501> hey all
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01.08.16 #       <scott666> hey darb
01.08.25 #       <scott666> oh
01.08.28 #       <scott666> read taht wrong
01.08.29 #       <scott666> damn
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02.07.14 #       <midknight2k3> hello
02.07.31 #       <thedude02> hello
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02.12.36 #       * thedude02 says please reply if you have read this message.
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03.01.51 #       <thedude02> helloo
03.01.56 #       <thedude02> goodbye
03.01.57 #       <midknight2k3> gtg
03.01.58 #       <midknight2k3> bye
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03.02.00 #       <midknight2k3> me too
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03.04.52 #       <WeeD0pE> huhu
03.05.24 #       <WeeD0pE> anybody stil alive ?
03.05.24 #       <WeeD0pE> :)
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06.11.59 #       <trauma> http://www.iwars.net/enfilade.html
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06.51.22 #       <midknight2k3> plugh is here?
06.51.25 #       <midknight2k3> since when?!
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08.58.34 #       <midknight2k3> good night
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13.20.13 #       <WeeD0pE> ho ho
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14.14.27 #       <Kontakt501> ANY1 HERE?
14.14.33 #       <Kontakt501> got a question
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15.35.48 #       <WeeD0pE> hello ?
15.39.13 #       <Kontakt501> hi
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16.30.01 #       <thedude02> hey
16.30.22 #       <thedude02> be back in a min
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17.17.33 #       <NelsonM> my recorder with rockbox won't boot or charge :-(
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17.30.03 #       <thedude02> phewph
17.30.08 #       <thedude02> I got rid of myself
17.30.12 #       <thedude02> lol
17.30.14 #       <NelsonM> no route
17.30.19 #       <thedude02> no
17.30.39 #       <thedude02> who was thedudeo2?
17.30.59 #       <NelsonM> #rockbox   thedudeo2 H   Dude@pm484-26.dialip.mich.net (David Scott)
17.31.08 #       <thedude02> ah
17.31.09 #       <thedude02> OK
17.31.20 #       <thedude02> it was me but it forgot to log me out when I quit IRC
17.31.29 #       <NelsonM> heh
17.31.45 #       <thedude02> I dont know why though...
17.31.45 #       <NelsonM> since you're live, can you give me a hint? my rockbox won't boot or charge anymore, some sort of death. what do I do?
17.32.09 #       <thedude02> sorry dont ask me
17.32.24 #       <thedude02> probbaly get the latest version of it
17.32.26 #       <NelsonM> you're jus there for the nachos? 
17.32.35 #       <NelsonM> problem is I can't charge the thing, so I don't even know how to remove / reinstall rockbox
17.32.35 #       <thedude02> yeah
17.32.46 #       <thedude02> you can't charge it?
17.32.51 #       <thedude02> you mean your archos?
17.33.02 #       <NelsonM> yeah. the rockbox firmware comes up and crashes. very weird.
17.33.13 #       <thedude02> huh
17.33.34 #       <NelsonM> that's what I thought
17.33.40 #       <thedude02> what kind of batteries does it use?
17.33.55 #       <thedude02> I presume a built-in one...
17.34.00 #       <NelsonM> standard Archos batteries.
17.34.05 #       <thedude02> do you have a charger?
17.34.10 #       <thedude02> just plug it in
17.34.12 #       <NelsonM> yeah, just a pain in the ass :-)
17.34.18 #       <thedude02> well do it
17.34.29 #       <thedude02> definitely a good idea
17.34.38 #       <NelsonM> heh
17.34.42 #       <thedude02> then go ask someone else for help
17.35.12 #       <thedude02> like my freind midknight2k3
17.35.18 #       <thedude02> who isn't online now
17.35.49 #       <thedude02> but I don't blame him
17.35.58 #       <NelsonM> I definitely blame him
17.36.08 #       <thedude02> I dont
17.36.22 #       <thedude02> well actually it's his fault that it doesnt work
17.36.48 #       <NelsonM> I'm just kidding, I don't know who he is :-)
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17.37.17 #       <thedude02> he's one of the programmers of rockbox
17.38.42 #       <thedude02> and I dont blame him because his time is 8:38
17.38.47 #       <thedude02> actually I do blame him
17.38.53 #       <thedude02> I was here at 7:40
17.38.57 #       <thedude02> when I got up
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17.39.55 #       <thedude02> and he has 6 MP3 palyers
17.41.36 #       <thedude02> but I have nine computers, including a CLIE PEG-SL10 and Axim X5
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17.43.06 #       <WeeD0pE> huhu
17.43.15 #       <WeeD0pE> look
17.43.15 #       <WeeD0pE> http://www.spicken.de/ficken2k2/mike_dirnt_ajb.jpg
17.43.18 #       <WeeD0pE> :)
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18.31.21 #       <Cheek> anybody seen dogger around?
18.32.12 #       <Cheek> !seen dogger
18.32.19 #       <Cheek> :)
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20.32.12 #       <diddystar5> hey Plugh
20.41.27 #       <diddystar5> are you there?    or "working"
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22.35.22 #       <arioch> does anyone know why on certain mp3s I keep getting input/output errors trying to copy them to an archos device?
22.35.33 #       <arioch> (mine's a jukebox recorder 10)
22.36.32 #       <arioch> $ cp 08\ -\ Preparing\ Camp\ Attack.mp3 ~/hoth/mp3s/films/predator/
22.36.32 #       <arioch> cp: writing `/home/arioch/hoth/mp3s/films/predator/08 - Preparing Camp Attack.mp3': Input/output error
22.56.57 #       <arioch> it just stops at the same point in the file
22.57.00 #       <arioch> and refuses to copy any further
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23.05.07 #       <track> Hi
23.06.16 #       <track> :-)
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23.11.08 #       <Kontakt501> hi all
23.11.14 #       <track> hi kintakt
23.11.17 #       <track> kontakt
23.11.38 #       <Kontakt501> hi track
23.11.51 #       <Kontakt501> i seem to have a problem
23.12.03 #       <track> wots up?
23.12.04 #       <Kontakt501> when i leaqve my fmrecorder to record off the radio at night
23.12.07 #       <Kontakt501> leave
23.12.14 #       <Kontakt501> i sometimes get an error
23.12.22 #       <Kontakt501> now i forgot the exact message
23.12.28 #       <Kontakt501> but it saids error
23.12.32 #       <track> i dunno, i only have a normal recorder, not an fm device
23.12.38 #       <Kontakt501> sometimes it stops only 40 minutes thru
23.12.43 #       <Kontakt501> ahh ok
23.12.51 #       <Kontakt501> i got the new daily build so maybe that wil fix irt
23.12.55 #       <track> yea
23.12.55 #       <Kontakt501> it
23.13.01 #       <track> Archos no longer make the FM recorder
23.13.06 #       <Kontakt501> really?
23.13.08 #       <Kontakt501> why
23.13.09 #       <track> the only FM device they make is the Ondio
23.13.16 #       <track> perhaps to sell more Ondios
23.13.56 #       <hardeep> Kontakt501: next time you see it, please write down the exact error message you see... it helps the developers to try and track down the problem
23.14.30 #       <Kontakt501> thanks hard
23.14.33 #       <hardeep> Kontakt501: moving the latest daily build is also a good idea... there have been a number of fixes related to recording recently
23.14.39 #       <Kontakt501> its like the 3rd time its happened already
23.14.53 #       <Kontakt501> sometimes it stops like 4-5 hours into it
23.15.04 #       <Kontakt501> but the last 2 times it stopped in the first 30 minutes
23.15.22 #       <Kontakt501> hard
23.15.24 #       <Kontakt501> can u recommend a good font
23.15.36 #       <track> Kontakt the latest FM device is the Gmini not the ondio
23.15.43 #       <hardeep> Kontakt501: i personally prefer the standard built-in font
23.15.43 #       <Kontakt501> ahh
23.15.46 #       <track> the Atadore font is pretty decent
23.15.49 #       <hardeep> but I know a lot of people like Atadore
23.15.57 #       <Kontakt501> gonna try that 1 
23.15.59 #       <track> yea I like Atadore hardeep
23.16.05 #       <Kontakt501> u got any other good tweaks i should know about?
23.16.09 #       <track> Hardeep I would love an italic version of Atadore
23.16.28 #       <Kontakt501> oh btw how do i delete the files in the recycled folder
23.16.33 #       <hardeep> track: i'm not sure how to do it myself but I believe it's pretty easy to create new fonts if you want
23.16.40 #       <track> yea
23.16.53 #       <track> I also have a Kenwood car MP3 playher
23.16.55 #       <track> player
23.16.59 #       <hardeep> Kontakt501: have you tried customizing your WPS... that's something many people like
23.17.10 #       <Kontakt501> ya midnight sent me a good 1 a while back
23.17.12 #       <Kontakt501> ive been using it
23.17.23 #       <track> Kontakt I also have a pretty decent WPS
23.17.23 #       <Kontakt501> does a certain wps take more power then others though?
23.17.38 #       <track> not necessarily Kontakt
23.17.43 #       <Kontakt501> since it displays more stuff
23.17.58 #       <track> WPS files are merely special txt files with the extension renamed to .wps
23.18.03 #       <hardeep> wps' that contain dynamic elements (peak meter, status bar, etc.) will use up a little more power then static ones
23.18.12 #       <Kontakt501> figured that
23.18.20 #       <track> you design the WPS in Notepad then when you save it you change the extension to .wps
23.18.45 #       <Kontakt501> i forgot the combination of keys to delete a file
23.18.58 #       <hardeep> ON+PLAY->Delete
23.19.01 #       <track> So what you saying Hardeep if I remove the peak meter from my WPS ill save a bit more battery power?
23.19.04 #       <hardeep> from file browser
23.19.08 #       <Kontakt501> thanls
23.19.14 #       <hardeep> track: yeah
23.19.59 #       <track> well, if it saves a fraction amount of power im not going to bother as the peak meter makes the WPS more interesting
23.20.13 #       <track> I like the peakmeter as a sort of visualization
23.20.23 #       <hardeep> i haven't tested it myself so I can't say how much you save
23.20.43 #       <Kontakt501> ya but im sure u listen to the music more then u watch the peakmeter
23.20.43 #       <hardeep> i remember earhurts was testing something like that... not sure how far he got
23.20.49 #       <track> well if you have 1800-2000mah batteries I don't think the savings are that great
23.21.33 #       <track> I like the look of the Gmini, looks like a nifty device
23.21.46 #       <track> plays WMA, MP3 and WAV and has a built-in FM radio
23.21.58 #       <Kontakt501> why would u want to play wav
23.22.11 #       <Kontakt501> takes more space
23.22.31 #       <track> well the Gmini has a 20gig HD with USB2.0
23.22.46 #       <track> WAV is useful if you need 100% quality for a special recording
23.22.51 #       <Kontakt501> so does my archos lol
23.22.56 #       <Kontakt501> ya true
23.23.00 #       <track> :O
23.23.05 #       <track> does the FM recorder play WAV?
23.23.13 #       <Kontakt501> havent tried to
23.23.20 #       <Kontakt501> but it records in mp3
23.23.27 #       <Kontakt501> i cant seem to get a higher bitrate then 166
23.23.27 #       <track> well I know the normal recorder doesn't play WAV
23.23.38 #       <track> you can't go higher than 166
23.23.48 #       <Kontakt501> what if i record at 48khz
23.23.55 #       <track> the encoding chip only does VBR recording 32-166VBR
23.24.10 #       <Kontakt501> is there any advantage to recording at 48
23.24.11 #       <track> regardless of the sampling rate
23.24.39 #       <track> well I did a digital recording from the SPDIF on my Toshiba DVD player to the Archos's SPDIF and the quality is very good
23.24.47 #       <track> that was using a music CD in the Toshiba
23.25.26 #       <Kontakt501> i think i made the right decision
23.25.32 #       <track> :)
23.25.34 #       <Kontakt501> so far it seems the archos pisses all over the ipod
23.25.40 #       <track> yea 
23.25.51 #       <track> The Archos has a much more rugged design that I like
23.26.02 #       <track> the Ipod scratches far too easily, Ive held an ipod once
23.26.05 #       <Kontakt501> ive been getting a good 12 hours out of it daily also
23.26.14 #       <track> what batteries do you use?
23.26.19 #       <Kontakt501> how can i tell
23.26.23 #       <Kontakt501> its the ones that came with it
23.26.27 #       <Kontakt501> just 1
23.26.33 #       <track> yea they are 1500mah batteries
23.26.38 #       <track> I use 1800mah batteries
23.26.46 #       <Kontakt501> how many hours do u get
23.27.09 #       <track> about 14-15 hours on a full charge
23.27.36 #       <Kontakt501> u bought it seperately?
23.27.42 #       <track> if you have 2000mah batteries the battery life can go to a whopping 18 hours
23.28.18 #       <track> Kontakt I used to have a Creative Labs Nomad before getting the Archos
23.28.30 #       <Kontakt501> how was it 
23.29.15 #       <track> well it had DSP modes, timestretching and plays WMA/WAV/MP3 but you can't drag and drop in Windows Explorer and the battery life was only 4 hours on 1800Mah batteries
23.29.38 #       <track> not only that the unit was too big and too ugly to carry around
23.31.32 #       <Kontakt501> that sucks
23.32.12 #       <track> The timestretcher was useful, the DSP modes were not, and the Playcenter software was so crap I took it back and got a refund
23.32.57 #       <track> Kontakt when I used Playcenter to make MP3s, I got a lot of .MET files and when i emailed Creative Labs, they simply told me to delete them manually!
23.37.03 #       <track> lol
23.37.53 #       <Kontakt501> fm reception sucks on the archos though
23.38.10 #       <track> well i know it has a very cheap FM circuit
23.38.24 #       <Kontakt501> what should disk spindown be set to
23.38.52 #       <track> well I just set it to 3 seconds spindown
23.39.18 #       <track> Reducing spindown time enables faster menu and file browsing as you don't have to wait for the disk to spin up
23.39.40 #       <track> but increasing spindown saves battery life
23.40.00 #       <track> depends if you want faster browsing or longer battery life
23.40.16 #       <Kontakt501> ill leave it at 5s
23.40.21 #       <track> yea that should be fine
23.40.25 #       <track> mine is on 3s
23.40.36 #       <Kontakt501> leave battery capacity at 1500mah?
23.40.46 #       <track> yea
23.40.54 #       <track> since the FM recorder has a Li-Ion battery
23.41.17 #       <Kontakt501> whats the caption backlight
23.41.46 #       <track> it switches the backlight on just before the current song ends and goes out after the next song has started playing
23.41.56 #       <Kontakt501> ah thats dumb
23.42.08 #       <track> its a sort-of MTV effect if you see what I mean
23.42.25 #       <Kontakt501> ya lol
23.42.35 #       <track> I never use it, I think its a waste of battery life
23.42.54 #       <track> I rarely use the backlight on my Archos, its always off
23.43.38 #       <Kontakt501> whats firmware?
23.44.12 #       <track> Firmware is the code in the Archos that powers the functions like MP3 decoding, menu systems, volume, file browsing etc
23.44.37 #       <Kontakt501> k thanks for answering my noob questions lol
23.44.39 #       <Kontakt501> u rock track
23.44.48 #       <track> its alrigt :)
23.44.52 #       <Kontakt501> sound settings
23.45.03 #       <track> yea and sound settings as well
23.45.03 #       <Kontakt501> stereo wide stereo narrow or stereo
23.45.11 #       <track> Never use myself
23.45.20 #       <Kontakt501> ill leave it at stereo i guess
23.45.23 #       <track> yea
23.45.58 #       <track> Basically without firmware the Archos wouldn't work.
23.46.49 #       <Kontakt501> u got any tweak tips?
23.46.54 #       <track> not really
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23.53.28 #       <track> kontakt u stil there?
23.53.41 #       <Kontakt501> yup
23.53.44 #       <track> cool
23.53.49 #       <Kontakt501> just messing with the archos
23.53.52 #       <track> lol
23.54.04 #       <track> My Archos has a 2Gig NTFS partition on it for data
23.54.06 #       <Kontakt501> what kind of music do u listen to
23.54.17 #       <track> all kinds
23.54.21 #       <Kontakt501> i copy paste data to the drive also
23.54.30 #       <Kontakt501> but i move it to another comp
23.55.15 #       <track> yea. The 2gig NTFS partition is where I keep all my datafiles backed up. I used NTFS as it can be compressed
23.55.48 #       <Kontakt501> and the other 18 gigz is fat32?
23.56.00 #       <track> 8gb as the drive is 10gb
23.56.03 #       <track> yes fat32
23.56.05 #       <Kontakt501> ahh
23.56.24 #       <Kontakt501> all kinds?
23.56.27 #       <Kontakt501> preferably
23.56.32 #       <track> the Archos can only understand FAT32
23.58.00 #       <track> I tried to use NTFS in the main partition but I got a message "No FAT32 file system found. Please format drive"